Brickbat: We Know Where You've Been

In March 2020, the government of Singapore rolled out its TraceTogether cellphone app, which tracks phones to see when two have been close to each other. It promised the app would only be used when someone tested positive for the coronavirus to see whom that person had been close to. The government now says the system is also used for criminal investigations. But officials point out that under Singapore law all privacy regulations can be overruled during criminal investigations. Singapore residents are required to download the app to enter many workplaces and stores.

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[Adans smith]

'Hey, we're just using this law for this one national emergency, nothing else' , said every government ever. Patriot act anyone?

[MatthewSlyfield]

Goes back to at least Julius Cesar and the dawn of the Roman Empire/death of the Roman Republic.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

But officials point out that under Singapore law all privacy regulations can be overruled during criminal investigations.

Phew, that was close but it's all good.

[apedad]

Is there a law you HAVE to carry a cell phone with you everywhere?

[Jerry B.]

No. But it’s the law that you have to have the app to enter most offices and businesses, including where you work, so it’s pretty much essential if you want to shop or be employed.

[Don't look at me!]

Ummm, I don’t have a phone, or I forgot my phone, or my phone is broken.

[sparkstable]

This makes me think of the Obamaphone. Yesterday that was a meme-becomes-reality.

If it happened now it would make me think dystopian horror story-becomes-reality.

[Rossami]

Might work in the US. Won't work in Singapore. They'll just send you home. Eventually, you'll run out of food.

[MatthewSlyfield]

Then sorry, you can't enter our store or your place of employment. Please come back tomorrow and remember to bring your phone this time.

[Longtobefree]

This is fun.
I try to quote Revelations in a reply, and when I click Submit, the comments close and I am back in the article.
Just checking to see if it is the scripture quote, or my username.

[Longtobefree]

OK, The Christian Bible is no longer welcome.

[SQRLSY One]

Whoa, the same thing is happening when I try it!

[SQRLSY One]

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[SQRLSY One]

Biblegateway didn't work. Here is Wikipedia:

Verses 16–17
He causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 so that no one may buy or sell, except he who has the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

[Longtobefree]

Even better, when I try now, Reason claims duplicate comment, I have already posted it.
But of course, it didn't post.
I will contact the Ministry of Truth and see what is going on.

[Rossami]

I've never seen a limit on content. Lord knows, all the spam comments get through. I have, however, seen a hard limit on hyperlinks (no more than 1 per comment) and they must be properly formatted. Bad HTML can get interpreted as a second attempt at a link and get your comment blocked.

[SQRLSY One]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013%3A16-17&version=KJV

Win-Word “Paste as text Only”… Dumps the source’s formatting in the bit-bucket… Also removed hyperlink from the above… STILL did not work! Trying with web site alone, with hyperlink removed… But NO imported text at ALL!

[SQRLSY One]

OK, obviously THAT worked! However, even a copy-pure-text-only, from there, doesn't work... I give up, I am stumped... A computer genius smarter than me, would be needed to figure this one out!

[GroundTruth]

One more reason that I don't own or use one of the damnd things.

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[Jerryskids]

Well, it's Singapore, this sort of thing would never happen here.

[Jerryskids]

I mean the part where the government would say they were using the app for criminal investigations of course. The government would use it for surveillance of absolutely everyone, criminal suspect or no, they just wouldn't admit it.

[Sometimes Bad Is Bad]

They didn't have to admit it, one of their contractors ratted them out, then skipped town to Moscow.

[mad.casual]

Technically, they'd deny it and then, when confronted with irrefutable evidence that they knew they were doing it when they denied it, would admit it. And nothing else would happen.

[Longtobefree]

Governments lie?
I am shocked, shocked.

[Kungpowderfinger]

“Make your own cell phone if you don’t like it”

[Unicorn Abattoir]

An unregistered communications device? You know that's got to violate a half million regulations.

[mad.casual]

You can have a device you built yourself, but it's illegal for it to connect to the "public" network without an approved SIM card.

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[mad.casual]

*all* privacy regulations can be overruled

As long as your spouse, relative, client, or parishoner's not a criminal who could contract COVID, you've got nothing to hide.

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