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Reason Roundup

'I Won the Election' Tweets Trump as Legal Losses Stack Up 

Plus: Another COVID-19 vaccine, another blow against DHS DACA order, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 11.16.2020 9:40 AM

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"At what point does this get ridiculous?" asked Judge Andrew P. Gordon of the U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada, who is hearing one of at least 18 cases nationwide challenging some facet of the presidential election results. He's not alone among judges in expressing frustration with lawsuits filed by the Trump 2020 campaign and its allies alleging various forms of voter fraud in battleground states that Trump lost.

"In court hearings and opinions around the country, judges are voicing similar frustrations with the Trump campaign's legal filings to a degree rarely seen in venues where political rhetoric is generally unwelcome," reports ABC News.

When Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, Judge Richard P. Haaz grilled Trump campaign lawyer Jonathan Goldstein at a court hearing last week, he wanted to know the basis for the Trump claims of fraud.

"I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?" said Haaz, a Democrat.

"To my knowledge at present, no," Goldstein replied.

Election experts "decidedly contradicted" Republican-submitted "affidavits from election challengers who paint a picture of sinister fraudulent activities occurring both openly in the TCF Center and under the cloak of darkness," wrote Michigan Chief Judge Timothy M. Kenny of the Wayne County Circuit Court. Kenny rejected a request for an independent audit (outside of the official one being undertaken by the county) of some votes.

And here's an update on Pennsylvania ballots from state Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman:

*Two* documented cases of voter fraud out of nearly 7M ballots.

Both cases involved Republicans. ????

And now: "Trump's campaign dropped the allegation that 100's of thousands of mail-in ballots.. that poll watchers weren't allowed."

Because Math. ????https://t.co/67tvNihidu

— John Fetterman (@JohnFetterman) November 16, 2020

The Trump campaign "has dramatically scaled back its federal lawsuit challenging the election results in Pennsylvania," notes Politico, "dropping legal claims stemming from observers who assert they were blocked from viewing vote-counting in counties dominated by Democrats."

Last Wednesday in Nevada, "a state court legal fight to stop the counting of mail ballots in the Las Vegas area has ended after the Nevada Supreme Court dismissed an appeal by the Donald Trump campaign and the state Republican party, at their request."

But while the legal hits keep coming for Trump and his allies, the president and his staunchest supporters have grown more enthusiastic in public, evidence-free assertions of a stolen election.

Over the weekend, thousands of Trump supporters marched in D.C. for the "Million MAGA March."

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With no evidence of actual election fraud and erstwhile allies in the Republican Party and on Fox News refusing to play along, Trump has been blaming a conspiracy of Democrats, media, and voting machinery. On Sunday evening, he tweeted:

Why does the Fake News Media continuously assume that Joe Biden will ascend to the Presidency, not even allowing our side to show, which we are just getting ready to do, how badly shattered and violated our great Constitution has been in the 2020 Election. It was attacked,..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 16, 2020

Trump continued:

From large numbers of Poll Watchers that were thrown out of vote counting rooms in many of our States, to millions of ballots that have been altered by Democrats, only for Democrats, to voting after the Election was over, to using Radical Left ….owned Dominion Voting Systems, turned down by Texas and many others because it was not good or secure, those responsible for the safeguarding of our Constitution cannot allow the Fake results of the 2020 Mail-In Election to stand. The World is watching!

Later last night, he tweeted:

I WON THE ELECTION!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 16, 2020

To which Twitter affixed a memo stating, "Official sources called this election differently."

I am the Batman. https://t.co/5vssfi8VQ0

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) November 16, 2020

People on Twitter have made a meme out of it, quote tweeting the president with their own obviously untrue captions. It's a bit odd to see so much shrugging and casual mockery in response to Trump's unprecedented disrespect for constitutional and procedural norms. (And—while it may be trite to say at this point—it's still true that the way we would react to this playing out the same way in another country would be much different.) But what else can be done at this point? And what really needs to be done?

Trump has been tweeting totally unsubstantiated election fraud claims in increasingly hysterical tones for days, while U.S. institutions, including federal courts and—outside of some especially sycophantic Trump supporters in Congress and MAGA grifter world—Republican leaders have been refusing to indulge the president's tantrum. Biden will, for better and worse, be the next president, no matter what Trump tweets. This may not render Trump's antics harmless, since some people will unwaveringly believe them forevermore. But people generally refusing to give them a power they don't have is probably the right approach, in terms of preserving everyone's sanity as well as preventing Democrats from overplaying this to their advantage ("fascism is here; give now!", etc.) and thwarting future Trumpian GOP claims that everyone else was hysterical during this period and the president was merely calling for a fair and cautious reading of election results.


QUICK HITS

• A second COVID-19 vaccine is showing promising results. Moderna's vaccine "was 94.5% effective at protecting people from Covid-19 in an early look at pivotal study results," reports The Wall Street Journal. "Of 95 people in the study who developed Covid-19 with symptoms so far, 90 had received a placebo and only five Moderna's vaccine, the company said Monday. The findings move the vaccine closer to wide use, because they indicate it is effective at preventing disease that causes symptoms, including severe cases."

• More on the illegitimacy of acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf: U.S. District Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis has "ruled that acting homeland security secretary Chad Wolf lacked the authority to limit the work permits of hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children because his appointment to the top position in the department did not appear to be lawful."

• 
The Biden Cancer Initiative "gave out no money to research, and spent most of its contributions on staff salaries," reports the New York Post.

• New York City refuses to leave Uber alone.

• "The FCC lacks authority to implement rulemaking on Section 230," argues Brandie Nonnecke, director of the CITRIS Policy Lab at the University of California, Berkeley and a human rights policy fellow Harvard's Carr Center.

• The battle over student loan debt is about to come back in a big way:

I think Dems are wildly underestimating the intensity of anger college loan cancelation is going to provoke. Those with college debt will be thrilled, of course. But lots and lots of people who didn't go to college or who worked to pay off their debts? Gonna be bad. https://t.co/SCxdIekT0P

— Damon Linker (@DamonLinker) November 16, 2020

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    "At what point does this get ridiculous?"

    It's understandable. After participating in the most corrupt election in 2016 he wouldn't recognize the most pristine.

    1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      Chuckle

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    2. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Hello.

      Excess deaths are important but does anyone have the figures on Excess retard?

      1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        Beyond measurement.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 years ago

        Speaking of......

        Worst party guest ever...... sqrlsy or tony?

        1. MT-Man   5 years ago

          Tony - it's evil.

        2. Sqrlsy's mom   5 years ago

          Tony.
          Sqrlsy would shit in the punchbowl and steal everyones food, but Tony would eat somebody's eyeballs.

    3. Tom Bombadil   5 years ago

      “At what point does this get ridiculous?”

      Maybe around the point judges realize it isn't their job to make smart ass comments about people pursuing legal actions.

      1. tracerv   5 years ago

        ^^^Nailed it!

      2. Jerryskids   5 years ago

        Calm your tits, if you click on the link you'll see that the judge agreed to expedite a hearing on the case and the "at what point does this get ridiculous" remark was made in relation to a particular point the lawyers had raised and not the cases in general as certain people are implying. It's the usual partisan media bullshit, take a remark out of context and make it appear as though it had another context, and you really should know better than to believe that these people are accurately reporting anything they say. I mean, the judge did say "Trump is the victim of a massive fraud" so he's probably a good guy. (Well, what the judge actually said was "Is it the position of Mr. Trump that he is the victim of a massive fraud?" but I can't be accused of mis-quoting him because he did in fact speak the words "Trump is the victim of a massive fraud" didn't he? See, I can play that game too.)

      3. Moderation4ever   5 years ago

        I try to remember this when some environmental group is using the court to hold up a project. I check then to see if you still have the same opinion.

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  2. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

    Almost as crazy as all the Russian stories.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      The gaslighting from Reason is pretty stupendous, eh?

      Trump is 'crazy' but he was right about the Russia collusion hoax, that scandalous pimp Obama spying on him, and impeachment.

      He's probably right he won the election too. No way will you ever convince me a loser like Biden won without some help.

      1. JesseAz   5 years ago

        Reason also refuses to even recognize or admit the many count failures we already know about. The 6k votes in Michigan, the 5% increases to GOP counts in hand recounts in Delaware. There is something fishy here, and it isn't Trump refusing to concede. The Georgia recount will be enlightening. Dominion is the same group that Bernie/Warren claimed was altering votes as well, amazing how Reason ignores this.

        1. a libertarian   5 years ago

          After almost 2 weeks of claim after claim completely falling apart, it becomes really obvious you are throwing every piece of shit you can find at the wall and hoping something sticks.

          1. Nardz   5 years ago

            Leftist instructions: deny, deny, deny, and assert reality isn't real

          2. JesseAz   5 years ago

            What claim? The fact that hand recounts are producing different numbers on a noticeable scale? Because that is a fact that is present today.

            1. The White Knight   5 years ago

              Yet, you are having trouble finding the links again.

            2. EdG   5 years ago

              The specious claim about "6k votes in Michigan". Happened in a Republican country. Was a data entry error by a human. Was caught quickly. Was publicly announced by the elections supervisor (a Republican). Was rapidly corrected. That one.

        2. DavidTaylor   5 years ago

          I can find no mention of a recount in Delaware in a quick search -- do you have a reference or source for this?

          1. JesseAz   5 years ago

            I don't have the article on this computer, but Tim Pool talked about it Friday along with the news stories if you're interested. It was stuff that popped up on Saturday.

            1. JesseAz   5 years ago

              sorry, he talked about it on Sunday.

              1. DavidTaylor   5 years ago

                I am still unable to find anything to confirm this claim. As good Washingtonians we have spent time in Rehoboth Beach every summer for about 60 years now, and have lots of friend in that town who are surprised and puzzled at the claim that there is a recount in Delaware, hand or not. Any real evidence would be useful.

            2. The White Knight   5 years ago

              A Google search for "Tim Pool" delaware "recount" OR "hand count" OR "hand recount" doesn't come up with anything?

              As "a libertarian" said above, you seem to be just throwing shit out there in hopes something will stick. You don't even know what you are referring to. It's like when you tried to repeat the "Brenfords Law" talking point and f'd it up.

              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 years ago

                Well, there was four years of throwing shit at walls and hoping something sticks. What’s a couple more weeks? C’mon man!

                1. The White Knight   5 years ago

                  JesseAz is going to go away in a few weeks?! Cool!

        3. The White Knight   5 years ago

          "The 6k votes in Michigan"

          Are you referring to this, which was resolved over a week ago? https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-technology-voting-michigan-6beeef230376e75252d6eaa91db3f88f

          "A clerk’s error in a small Republican-leaning northern Michigan county earlier this week led to the reporting of unofficial voting results that favored Democrat Joe Biden, state officials said."

      2. mad.casual   5 years ago

        He should've cached it like that.

        Hillary and the FBI lost the emails (with a cloth).
        Russians stole the 2016 election.
        Justice Kavanaugh assaulted KBF.
        Epstein killed himself.
        Ukraine? Quid pro quo.
        Biden won the Presidency.
        The Deep State isn't spying on you.
        There are no secret courts.

        1. Nardz   5 years ago

          It's not just the flu

          1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

            Long Covid.

      3. Overt   5 years ago

        I was on record saying I expected Trump to lose almost 3 weeks before the election or so.

        That said, the extent to which ENB- someone who claimed she wanted neither candidate to win- insists that Trump MoveOn when recounts and legal challenges are still happening makes me really suspicious.

        1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

          As if he doesn't have a right to that. This is what's disappointing.

          She's just being predictably partisan. Boring.

          Let it play out. He's doing what he has to do. If it fails it fails. But to act as if it's set is wrong given it's still on-going.

          He has another month.

          1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

            But hey....her links, her rules.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

          That's why I've been saying that until this all gets up to the Supreme Court to adjudicate, it's all just background noise. The media can't be trusted at this point because they're openly serving as mouthpieces for a single political party now, and have no interest in digging in to anything that might in any way harm the Color Revolution.

          As you said, Trump's odds of pulling a rabbit out of his hat here are incredibly long, and it's primarily because the political and cultural institutions that bend national policy towards globalist initiatives are dead-set against him getting back into office. The last thing these people want is a populist/nationalist with over 70 million voters getting back into office, and feeling emboldened enough that he might actually nerf their One World Government dreams.

          1. not guilty   5 years ago

            In order for SCOTUS to have anything to adjudicate, an evidentiary record must be developed before the appropriate trial courts, with applicable fact finding. Unless the Trump team can overcome Biden´s margins of tens of thousands of votes in at least three states, no remedy exists.

        3. OneSimpleLesson   5 years ago

          It also bothers about me that Reason is doing about 1 story a day telling him to move on. They're not going deeper into the allegations, or reporting on ongoing court cases. They're just sharing some tweets and talking about people that aren't on his side.

        4. NashTiger   5 years ago

          But, Election Officials dispute the affadavits that say they were cheating. So there

        5. The White Knight   5 years ago

          It's fine to file lawsuits, but there is no denying that many of the lawsuits so far have proved frivolous.

          The other matter, which Trump apologists here ignore, is Trump's behavior since the election. Filing lawsuits is OK; going on twitter and riling up his supports with temper tantrums and claims that he won is another thing. It is plainly wrong and destructive of democracy.

          1. Commenter_XY   5 years ago

            No more destructive than Al Gore and the media back in 2000. The Republic survived.

            1. The White Knight   5 years ago

              All I recall from 2000 were lots of “hanging chad” jokes, not inter-party violence, but I did a search to see if I wasn’t remembering correctly. Found this:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

              “Many of the demonstrators were paid Republican operatives.[2] According to investigative reporter Greg Palast, author of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy in 2002, Roger Stone organized the demonstration, and Matt Schlapp was the on-site leader.[3] Republican New York Representative John E. Sweeney[4] gave the signal that started the riot, telling an aide to ‘Shut it down.'”

              Hey, look! It’s our old buddy, Roger Stone, inciting a riot!

              1. Commenter_XY   5 years ago

                Uh huh....The country was treated to 37 days of the media stating Gore was the POTUS-elect. With Gore loudly stating, "We must be patient, we must be prudent. Every vote must count [he was speaking of vote litigation in FL]". The media was about as abysmal.

                The Electoral College meets in about 3 weeks. Then we will have a POTUS-elect, and Brain-Damaged Biden can get on with the business of fucking up the country though sheer incompetence. Because, like his old boss said...Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up".

      4. The White Knight   5 years ago

        "the 5% increases to GOP counts in hand recounts in Delaware"

        Do you mean the State of Delaware or Delaware County, Pennsylvania? Can you link to whatever you are referring to?

  3. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/robkhenderson/status/1327944138340360192

    "Compared to previous generations, more American college students now rate themselves as above average on academic ability, leadership ability, public speaking...trends are not explained by changes in objective performance (e.g., SAT scores have declined)"

    1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      I blame participation trophies.

      1. Sevo   5 years ago

        I blame T-ball.

        1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

          I blame letting women, especially mothers, vote.

          1. Dillinger   5 years ago

            this. repeal the 19th.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 years ago

              I knew it was all over when Ace became the place with the helpful hardware “folks”. Shame.

    2. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      Medical student expelled for pro-life, pro-gun views. Court refuses to reinstate him.
      https://www.thecollegefix.com/medical-student-expelled-for-pro-life-pro-gun-views-court-refuses-to-reinstate-him/

      The school’s response will make you nauseated. Ira Ripstein, associate dean for undergraduate medical education, summoned him to seven meetings and coerced him into writing 10 apologies – five each for offended students and faculty – to avoid discipline. It wasn’t enough

      1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

        https://twitter.com/WinterForMT/status/1325171295017861124

        Schumer saying Biden can cancel first $50,000 in student debt via executive order. And will do so in first 100 days. This will change so many lives.

        1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

          The rich will pay for it.

          1. CE   5 years ago

            The rich will benefit from it, at the expense of the middle class.

        2. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

          The next day's headline: Universities to Raise Tuition by $50,000

        3. MikeP2   5 years ago

          It will change a lot of lives, when the working middle class, who mortgaged their homes instead of loans, outright revolts.

        4. DavidTaylor   5 years ago

          The case you linked to was in Canada, so I am not sure what the cancellation of U.S. student debt for attending U.S. colleges and universities has to do with it.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

            When the fuck did Chuck Schumer become a Canadian politician?

            1. Nardz   5 years ago

              We're back to being citizens of the world.
              Well, not citizens. Subjects. Serfs.

              1. Sqrlsy's mom   5 years ago

                Probably cattle. The trustees get to be surfs.

      2. Longtobefree   5 years ago

        "Never apologize, Mister. It's a sign of weakness."

        (and it weakens your lawsuit)

      3. perlhaqr   5 years ago

        > Zaki says his family has been discussing “whether Canada values us”.

        Spoiler: No.

    3. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      75% of Students Above Average Under Biden

      1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        Why not all? (excepting white males, of course)

      2. The White Knight   5 years ago

        Funny, you claim the reason for your (very partisan) interest in United States politics is because Canada is affected by trends in U.S. government, yet you pay attention to purely internal matters that have no effect on Canada, such as whether student loans should be forgiven or not.

        1. Sqrlsy's mom   5 years ago

          Canadian provinces handle their own education policies. Most provinces, except maybe Alberta, copy US educational policies verbatim. If the Department of Education is doing it you can guarantee that the Ontario minister of education will be doing the same five years later.

          ...But you don't really care about getting an answer, do you, you slimy fuck.
          You're trying to imply something. Come on, spit it out shithead. Say your piece.

    4. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      But how many can use a screw driver without hurting themselves?

      1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

        Screwdrivers are a sexist concept from a backwards, patriarchal society.

        1. Árboles de la Barranca   5 years ago

          And many of them say "Craftsman" on the phallus-shaped handle, which is threatening to a lot of college students.....

        2. R Mac   5 years ago

          Every new college graduate, in addition to having all loans payed by government (us), will be assigned a Mexican immigrant that will do any work for them that requires a screwdriver or other tool.

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 years ago

            Looks like I put my Ace hardware jab in the wrong spot.

    5. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Not from the clips I see on Campus Reform are they 'above average'.

    6. JesseAz   5 years ago

      Grade inflation at its finest.

    7. CE   5 years ago

      I'm willing to state with absolute certainty that 50% of students are above average.

  4. Sqrlsy's mom   5 years ago

    Welp, I guess we've finally found out why Reason stopped giving a shit about the "Free Minds" bit from their mission statement, and have been doing nothing but regurgitating establishment media tropes and DNC talking points.

    Charles Koch Says He Regrets Fueling Partisanship With His Fortune

    Koch, who heads Koch Industries and is one of the 25 richest people in the world, according to Forbes, told the paper he is attempting to work with Democrats, saying he feels there is common ground

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   5 years ago

      Ever since I began posting here, my fundamental message has been this: Koch / Reason libertarianism is all about making billionaires (especially Charles Koch) even richer, and the best way to do that is to put Democrats in charge of the government.

      And now we have confirmation from Charles Koch himself that I've been right all along.

      #NotBadForAnAllegedParodyAccount

      1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

        It really was all about the money. Just like corporatism and wokeism helped to feed Soros's wealth and power, open borders and ostensibly libertarian economic policies helped fuel Koch.
        Now that corporatism is in Koch's best interests his views 'evolve' and so do Reason's.

        It must be nice to own your own journalists.

      2. NashTiger   5 years ago

        Dont sprain your back or your patting arm

      3. CE   5 years ago

        the common ground between Reason-style libertarians and Democrats was apparent in the first Democrat primary debate, when all of the contenders raised their hands as being in favor of free medical care for undocumented immigrants.

    2. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

      Sane people can't blame Koch for regretting the feeding of what turned out to be a Trumpist beast! All the power-mad, no-conscience Trumpistas are now lusting after a REAL Trumptatorshit, pushing utter fantasies of widespread voter fraud! They (the likes of YOU!) would kill the goose (democracy) that lays the golden eggs (a 2-party state, with SOME political freedoms)! You evil assholes lust after a 1-party "R" Trumpist state, and you do NOT care ONE hoot, about WHO gets hurt by your mad power-lust! All of history shows us that 1-party states do NOT work, assholes!

      1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

        SQRLSY One
        November.9.2020 at 4:26 pm

        Bimsday, 39 Bemberbember 2020 at 6:66 PM
        I love to LIE my ass off, and suck Satan’s dick! Because I hate humanity! The Evil One is the Father of Lies, just as Der TrumpfenFuhrer is the Stable Genius! So, as the apple falls not far from the tree, I INSIST on telling obvious lies, all day, every day! Butt… Surprise, surprise! Other Evil Ones Junior will fall for my lies… Because they want to!

        1. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

          Mother's Lament
          Bimbosday, 43 Bimbobember 2020 at 6:66 PM

          I lust after being abused by power-mad politicians, because I am power-mad myself! And I suffer under the utterly stupid illusion that power-mad politicians will feed me, like a doggy under the table, a wee few, tiny scraps of their vast powers. Biden came up here to Canoodlestanistanistanistanistan to noodle me and my poodle, and give me nookie, with my Wookie and my bookie, but all that Biden would do, is smell my hair! So I lust after Der TrumpfenFuhrer to come up here and grab my pussy good and hard!

        2.  ​sarcasmic​‍‌   5 years ago

          Wow, what literary talent and rapier wit! Let’s see if I can match or exceed it, with some OTHER brilliantly smart comments that I have created just now!

          Fuck off, spaz!
          You eat shit, you said so yourself!
          You’re a racist Hitler-lover!
          Take your meds!
          That’s so retarded!
          You’re a Marxist!
          Your feet stink and you don’t love Trump!
          Your source is leftist, so it must be false!
          Trump rules and leftists drool!
          You are SOOO icky-poo!
          But Goo-Goo-Gah-Gah!

          Wow, I am now 11 times as smart and original as you are!

          1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

            That was a literal Sqrlsy quote, you moron. The date's right there, check it out.

            1. JesseAz   5 years ago

              Sarcasmic is too busy drinking to learn how the internet works.

              1. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

                I’m soooo sorry that your Great Whitish-Orangish Pumpkin-Father has been CHEATED out of His Office by evil Demoncrats! I suggest that you might be able to retreat to your safe space… I hear they have laid in a large supply of Teddy Bears. Maybe one of the Teddy Bears will agree to lay with you, and snuggle your wuggle for a while! There, there!

                In a mere few more years, as you are still jonesing for Great White Father, I bet you could persuade Alex Jones to be your Next Savior! Slogan: Jonesing for Jones!

                1. The SQUIRREL eats the cheese   5 years ago

                  Blah blah blah

            2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

              Flag, refresh, move on. The only thing you are going to get from interacting with SQDSLY is shit all over yourself.

              1. perlhaqr   5 years ago

                Yeah, it's just sad now.

            3. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

              Lying asshole omits the fact that I was speaking in Momma's twisted tongue, as if I was Momma! Momma knows this, but keeps right on lying!

              Mother’s Lament
              Bimsday, 39 Bemberbember 2020 at 6:66 PM
              I love to LIE my ass off, and suck Satan’s dick! Because I hate humanity! The Evil One is the Father of Lies, just as Der TrumpfenFuhrer is the Stable Genius! So, as the apple falls not far from the tree, I INSIST on telling obvious lies, all day, every day! Butt… Surprise, surprise! Other Evil Ones Junior will fall for my lies… Because they want to!

              1. The SQUIRREL eats the cheese   5 years ago

                Blah blah blah

          2. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

            Oh shit! Sqrlsy is sarcasmic's sock:

            https://reason.com/video/2020/11/09/joe-bidens-11-trillion-plan-to-bankrupt-america/#comment-8575184

            1. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

              You have ZERO reasons to believe that I post under multiple names here, other than, you are fearful that (OMG!) there might be MORE THAN ONE person out there, who is capable of writing eloquently enough to persuade other intelligent and flexible-minded (open-minded) people that individual freedom is a REALLY good idea! So you engage in wish fulfillment fantasy, telling yourself that they are all one and the same, so that you and your fellow authoritarians can out-number them more easily. Good luck with that, mind-reader who failed!
              You believe crap that is totally false, w/o evidence to back yourself up! Just like Rob Misek and the other fantasy-addicted authoritarians around here!

              1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

                Fuck off Sarc. Your Sqrlsy shtick is annoying.

                1. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

                  Fuck off Sarc. Your Sqrlsy shtick is annoying.

                  Look! Proof positive now that I am the same as Momma!

                  1. Sevo   5 years ago

                    It really does help a thread to simply flag everyone of the spaz' posts.
                    Fuck off and die.

                  2. The SQUIRREL eats the cheese   5 years ago

                    Cheese is code for shit, shit eater.

          3. sarcasmic   5 years ago

            Great. Someone is spoofing me again. Time to contact Reason. Again.

            1. sarcasmic   5 years ago

              If you highlight the name on the 10:10 comment you'll see there is a leading space, whereas you highlight my name right here and you won't see the space.

              That's in case anyone cares to believe the truth that I am indeed being spoofed.

              1. some guy   5 years ago

                That's the first thing I checked. Reason makes it so easy to do this.

                1. The White Knight   5 years ago

                  It's been months since sarcasmic and I asked Reason's IT to fix the problem, and nothing has been done.

          4. The White Knight   5 years ago

            Hi, Tulpa!

    3. Leo Kovalensky II   5 years ago

      RTFA:

      Regardless, his spending habits didn’t appear to change much this year. The Wall Street Journal, citing Center for Responsive Politics data, said Koch’s PAC donated $2.8 million to Republican candidates compared to $221,000 for Democrats during the 2020 election cycle.

      1. Nardz   5 years ago

        It's almost like he has his own plantation to maintain

  5. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    A second COVID-19 vaccine is showing promising results.

    Thank you, President Biden.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      The magic power of Democracy!

      (The sad thing is that millions of people will essentially believe your sarcasm.)

    2. some guy   5 years ago

      By the time either vaccine gets wide dissemination, half the country will already be immune to the virus from having been exposed. We're at a million new cases a week.

      1. Nardz   5 years ago

        Probably because coronavirus is endemic, aka extremely common and normal, but it was decided this year to precipitate the great reset and usher in global socialist totalitarianism.

      2. CE   5 years ago

        Winter 2021: "it's amazing how well this new vaccine works. no one is getting sick."

  6. Sqrlsy's mom   5 years ago

    Reason V.3.0 Coup-o-meter:

    Step 1: Get mail-in voting approved to guarantee a non-credible election result.

    Step 2: Have the Democrat-controlled media proclaim Biden as winner.

    Step 3: Use media allies to make it “true” that Trump lost. Frame any challenges to the narrative as the ragings of a dictator, clinging to power. <— TODAY'S ROUNDUP

    Step 4: If the courts and congress find Trump’s electoral victory is legitimate, claim that it’s not. Activate rioters.

    Step 5: Remove Trump by non-Constitutional means. Frame it as saving the nation.

    Step 6: 'Build Back Better' baby. Make sure that those uppity surfs pay.

  7. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

    The Biden Cancer Initiative "gave out no money to research, and spent most of its contributions on staff salaries,"
    Also known as the Clinton model.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      Hey, its a free market. They sold virtue-signaling and good feelings to donators. Win-win.

    2. OneSimpleLesson   5 years ago

      Also see: Susan G. Komen

    3. CE   5 years ago

      if only there had been some warning sign that Biden was corrupt, BEFORE we voted.

  8. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    Member of Biden transition team, they guys Reason supported:

    Why America needs a hate speech law
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/29/why-america-needs-hate-speech-law/

    But as a government official traveling around the world championing the virtues of free speech, I came to see how our First Amendment standard is an outlier. Even the most sophisticated Arab diplomats that I dealt with did not understand why the First Amendment allows someone to burn a Koran. Why, they asked me, would you ever want to protect that?

    It’s a fair question. Yes, the First Amendment protects the “thought that we hate,” but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another. In an age when everyone has a megaphone, that seems like a design flaw.

    ...All speech is not equal. And where truth cannot drive out lies, we must add new guardrails. I’m all for protecting “thought that we hate,” but not speech that incites hate. It undermines the very values of a fair marketplace of ideas that the First Amendment is designed to protect.

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      Biden HUD secretary frontrunner praised top communist as her 'mentor'
      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-hud-communist-mentor
      In 2017, Rep. Karen Bass, D-Calif., eulogized Oneil Marion Cannon, a top member of the Communist Party USA for decades, calling him a "friend and mentor."

    2. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      And yet we allow him to talk that way.

      1. OneSimpleLesson   5 years ago

        Is he inciting violence against Koran burners?
        *GASP*

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

          I saw 'Karen burners' and thought, "Now there is a call for bi-partisan cooperation."

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      It’s a fair question.

      No, it's not.

    4. I, Woodchipper   5 years ago

      This guy is downright scary and should never ever be anywhere near power of a kind.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        The guy is an ex-editor of Time Magazine.

        He's certainly providing elegant proof that the journalist class doesn't deserve First Amendment protections anymore.

    5. Union of Concerned Socks   5 years ago

      One can only hope, I guess, that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

    6. CE   5 years ago

      so free speech is okay, as long as you don't say anything that someone else might not like?

  9. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    ...acting homeland security secretary Chad Wolf lacked the authority to limit the work permits of hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children because his appointment to the top position in the department did not appear to be lawful.

    Yes, that's why the restrictions were illegitimate.

    1. JesseAz   5 years ago

      DACA was never passed through the standard rule making process... not sure why we keep treating it as a valid rule.

      1. The White Knight   5 years ago

        Sounds great! Can we apply the same standard to all of Trump's Executive Orders?

        1. Commenter_XY   5 years ago

          Only after you go through APA to apply that standard.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    The Biden Cancer Initiative "gave out no money to research, and spent most of its contributions on staff salaries..."

    Do we have our Clinton Foundation analog?

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

      Kamala has a Biden Cancer Initiative as well.

  11. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

    Let's see.

    A presidential candidate, political party, and dedicated supporters refuse to accept the validity of an election and instead fabricate elaborate scenarios from speculative partisan sources, which they claim is not just fraud but a threat to the nation's core.

    What year is it?

    1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      July 1932 German federal election and Trump is Papen?

      1. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

        Trump is Hitler, you obtuse, clueless moron!

        1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

          He sure loves Jews and hates war for being Hitler.

          1. SQRLSY One   5 years ago

            But He loves Himself and His Power MORE than ANYTHING else! (Jews as scapegoats have been replaced by illegal sub-humans and un-American people). The totally unfettered power-lust is what makes Him Hitler!

            1. Sevo   5 years ago

              Even when the spaz reappears!
              Fuck off and die.

            2. The SQUIRREL eats the cheese   5 years ago

              Nonsense

        2. The SQUIRREL eats the cheese   5 years ago

          Blah blah blah

    2. Union of Concerned Socks   5 years ago

      2000?

  12. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    New York City refuses to leave Uber alone.

    Who does NYC leave alone?

    1. Overt   5 years ago

      Occupy Wallstreet?

      1. CE   5 years ago

        mostly peaceful protesters?

    2. OneSimpleLesson   5 years ago

      Pullitzer Prize winning 'Journalists'?

  13. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    But lots and lots of people who didn't go to college or who worked to pay off their debts? Gonna be bad.

    Not their demographic anymore.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      And certainly not their money anymore.

  14. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1328020783596269568

    I thought this was supposed to be a conspiracy theory. But here it is, straight from Trudeau’s mouth. The pandemic is the excuse for a “Great Reset” of the world, led by the UN.

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      This Is How the World Economic Forum Wants to Reset You
      https://spectator.org/this-is-how-the-world-economic-forum-wants-to-reset-you/

      A few days ago, some tweeters shared a video of the WEF that had gone unnoticed four years ago, when it was released. The TV commercial, which could very well have been made by famous film director Hugo Chavez and written by equally famous screenwriter Mao Tse-tung, predicts what the world will be like in 2030, showing a smiling young man while overprinting the message: “You will possess nothing. And you will be happy.”

      Unfortunately, I fear that the WEF was not calling on young people to take up the habits of mendicant orders. No, actually they just wanted to announce their true goals for 2030: that you have nothing at all. In this sense, the pandemic and the global economic crisis could help accelerate that noble cause of plucking you like an unpardoned turkey on Thanksgiving. I can’t imagine you’ll be much surprised to learn that, after a certain amount of commotion on Twitter, the WEF has deleted the video without giving any explanation. It’s their usual modus operandi.

      Another of the campaigns that the WEF is promoting as part of the global reset to build its new world order has to do with what they call diversity. Thus, they cite as an example of this new world an initiative from Vodafone, who from now on, “for new tenders, suppliers will be asked to demonstrate policies and procedures supporting diversity in the workplace, including gender, ethnicity, LGBT+, age and disability.” I expect that in the end all of this will translate into being able to choose between being attended by a black person, a transsexual, or a blind person the next time you walk into a store to buy a cell phone. Without a doubt it constitutes a success story that illustrates exactly where the WEF is taking us, whether in climate and energy, economy and labor, privacy, or in the sexual-funny-identity-resilience issues:

      “Welcome to Vodafone. As you can see, I am a transsexual.”

      “ I’m very happy for you, I wanted a cell phone.”

      1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

        https://twitter.com/fleroy1974/status/1320325767620866053

        The cover of
        @TIME
        : the #GreatReset is coming. Swallow the pill, folks, for your own good. The #Davos aristocracy at
        @wef
        wants the best for you & is so kind to reset your lives in 2021. No need for democratic consultation, which would but slow down the process of your salvation.

      2. Ron   5 years ago

        teh great reset has already started by eliminating statues and eliminating the 4th of july and halloween and now trying to eliminate thanksgiving and christmas and also the elimination proper vote counting soon there will be nothing left of our collective history

        1. R Mac   5 years ago

          Don’t forget shut downs of small businesses, while big businesses, including Amazon, remain open and profitable. But all those previously self-employed small business owners that can’t get a job at one of the big businesses will be getting some stimulus money from the government to keep them afloat.

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        The Great Reset in a nutshell:

        "I will shred this universe down to its last atom. And then with the stones you've collected for me create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe."

    2. The White Knight   5 years ago

      Go figure. A link to Canadian politics, and Mother's Lament doesn't even comment on it.

      1. Sqrlsy's mom   5 years ago

        I did when it was posted yesterday, pissbox.

        But hey, weasel, what are you trying to imply? Spit it out.

  15. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

    "It's a bit odd to see so much shrugging and casual mockery in response to Trump's unprecedented disrespect for constitutional and procedural norms."

    OK, ENB. Now do Russiagate.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      It's like the last four years was a blur.

    2. JesseAz   5 years ago

      Constitutional norms would require waiting until Dec 14th to declare the president elect. ENB is just an idiot.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        And correct me if I'm wrong, that's when a 'smooth transition' is supposed to take place.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    "Official sources called this election differently."

    More official than the president of the United States?

    1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      The media are the officials now.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        Officially?

        1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

          Authoritative media sources said it, so it must be true.

    2. Nardz   5 years ago

      Yes, this irks me.
      They are referring to the press and themselves of course.
      But technically, no official sources have weighed in until votes are certified and electors vote.
      But they are saying the corporate press are Official

      1. R Mac   5 years ago

        All part of The New Normal!

    3. OneSimpleLesson   5 years ago

      War is peace. Slavery is freedom.

  17. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

    The Biden Cancer Initiative "gave out no money to research, and spent most of its contributions on staff salaries," reports the New York Post.

    What was Hunter's position?

    1. CE   5 years ago

      International Liaison?

  18. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

    I wonder when Boehm is going to write that pro-gun-grabbing article for TeenReason?

  19. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    Coronavirus emerged in Italy earlier than thought, study shows
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/15/coronavirus-emerged-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-study-shows.html

    The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy since September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that Covid-19 might have spread beyond China earlier than previously thought.

    The World Health Organization has said the new coronavirus and Covid-19, the respiratory disease it causes, were unknown before the outbreak was first reported in Wuhan, in central China, in December.

    Italy's first Covid-19 patient was detected on Feb. 21 in a little town near Milan, in the northern region of Lombardy.

    But the Italian researchers' findings, published by the INT's scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show that 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020, had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Yup.

      All this? FOR NOTHING.

      Masks. Lockdowns. Social distancing.

      NOTHING.

      Crimes against humanity. Both by public officials AND people who supported them.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        In a more just time where the people were more engaged and courageous, swaying and swinging bodies against a gentle wind would decorate the horizon.

        All politics now. All these rats are scurrying around covering their incompetent, cowardly asses.

        Joe Biden is cowardice and stupidity PERSONIFIED.

      2. Ron   5 years ago

        it does make you wonder where all the new cases are coming from. Are the total being done by the same people who count votes, there was the one governor caught doing that or is the government actively planting the virus? it wouldn't be the first time remember when they gave all those black men syphilis.

        1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

          A good chunk of it can be place on unreliable PCR testing and its 'miniscule accuracy' as Fauci put it. We know we're setting the cycles way too high to the point of high false positives are being used to push drastic policies.

          In other words, we're fraying the social and economic order by shadow boxing with a virus we can't and never will 'control'.

          By now, a truly enlightened and intelligent society learns to live with it.

          Not obsessing over useless masks like a bunch of psycho cultists.

          1. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

            Yep. We're catching "cases" of people who already got over the virus and just have remnants left in their bodies.

    2. some guy   5 years ago

      Imagine if we had opened back up, big and quick after 2 weeks like we were supposed to. The economy would be in much better shape. The massive bailouts would have been unnecessary. Millions of people wouldn't have lost their jobs and businesses.

      Also, many of the current cases would have been pulled forward and spread over the summer. Then the current wave wouldn't be as big and taxing. Smoothing the curve works both ways. If everyone is going to get the virus anyway, you might as well spread them out as evenly as possible.

      1. CE   5 years ago

        Better to expose people in the summer when immune systems are stronger (from longer hours of sunshine and more fresh air from being outside).

        1. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

          Exactly. It never made sense to drag this into flu season.

  20. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/RLHeinrichs/status/1328167223878443009

    Obama tapped 20 Associated Press office phone lines and the homes and phones of reporters.
    Trump tweets mean things.
    Quote Tweet

    1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      One hundred years from now if The Party isn't triumphant and hasn't memory holed everything, people will be astounded at the corruption between the media and the Dems.

      1. R Mac   5 years ago

        They’re not even pretending anymore.

  21. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   5 years ago

    Exactly as I predicted, Biden's landslide victory continues to pay off for Reason.com's benefactor Charles Koch.

    Mr. Koch earned $812,000,000 on the most recent business day.

    Billionaires and Wall Street overwhelmingly supported Biden because they knew he'd create an economy that works best for them. And things will get even better when he takes office in January and reverses Drumpf's high-tariff / low-immigration policies.

    #GetReadyForTheKochComeback

    1. MollyGodiva   5 years ago

      The rich made bank under Trump too. They win no matter who is in office. At least Biden wants to tax them more.

      1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   5 years ago

        Not entirely true.

        Koch / Reason libertarianism is primarily concerned with making Charles Koch even richer. And despite his net worth increase over the past 2 weeks, Mr. Koch is still down almost $8,000,000,000 this year.

        Of course all of this is Orange Hitler's fault. That's why Reason's best writers (Dalmia, Boehm, etc.) relentlessly criticize the policies that have caused their employer so much misery.

        #50BillionIsntEnough

      2. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

        Lockdowns kill small business and help big ones.

      3. Nardz   5 years ago

        "At least Biden wants to tax them more."

        Leftists are so fucking easy to placate.

        1. Sevo   5 years ago

          You misspelled "'tards'.

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 years ago

          And so fucking ugly and resentful.

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        At least Biden wants to tax them more.

        Superficially. They'll just use their "foundations" as tax shelters and money laundering operations, or lobby for special exemptions.

        There's a reason retail megacorps like Amazon are making bank with all these lockdowns while small businesses are going down the toilet. Democrats don't actually give a shit about the latter, as evidenced by their "non-essential" designation.

        The people who have to pay their bills certainly don't consider their businesses to be non-essential, but your side will happily throw them under the bus if it means furthering your political agenda.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    ...the president and his staunchest supporters have grown more enthusiastic in public, evidence-free assertions of a stolen election.

    Evidence-free or no evidence from sources we like?

    1. Knutsack   5 years ago

      Exactly. So disingenuous.

  23. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1328170430717366273

    BREAKING: Stacey Abrams' group deployed teams of Democratic activists to go door-to-door in Fulton & other Georgia counties to help voters fix spoiled ballots for Biden so they would be counted, including thousands of otherwise rejected provisional ballots

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      https://twitter.com/HonkSJ/status/1327103090890305536

      Google censored a spreadsheet collecting data on v-t-r fr--d.

      1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

        Was Election Software Rigged? Sidney Powell Lays Out the Trump Team's Findings.
        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/15/sidney-powell-were-fixing-to-overturn-the-election-results-with-new-evidence-n2580118

        Powell stated whistleblowers came forward over alleged paybacks. She said in states where the new election technology was purchased and implemented, there's evidence of officials' family members being paid large lump sums of money.

        There are other concerns about how the software can be utilized. The attorney stated software and election officials have the ability to do things like delete ballots, force the machine not to read voters' signatures or the down ballot. Powell said there's also the ability for the machine to be programed to only count votes for Biden.

        "It's like drag and drop whatever you want wherever you want, upload votes," she explained.

        The attorney said the campaign has a sworn affidavit from a person who knows how the system works and was allegedly there when the system was being created and implemented.

        1. MikeP2   5 years ago

          Sidney may be blowing smoke, but if not, this will blow up the election and all hell will break loose.

        2. lap83   5 years ago

          Sorry, Her evidence and arguments are just not as credible as snarky blue check comments and NYT anonymous sources

        3. Overt   5 years ago

          This sounds as credible as Schiff and his "Smoking gun" of Russian collusion.

          If you read what he actually says- the evidence he claims to have- it is all speculation about what the system "could" do.

        4. some guy   5 years ago

          I'm sure the source code is available for any software used in voting machines, right? Right?

          This is easy to check. You get a record of exactly what build is on each voting machine. You get the source code from the dev. You compile it and compare the binaries with whatever was running on the machines. If they're the same, then you can dig into the source and find stuff like this, if it exists. If they are different, then you get a judge to put the software company's CEO in jail until he produces the actual source code for what was run on the actual machines. Easy.

          1. Commenter_XY   5 years ago

            some guy...For damned sure there is a server log.

    2. Overt   5 years ago

      "Stacey Abrams’ group deployed teams of Democratic activists "

      While I would like to believe that, any article (including that one) that says Dominion Software was responsible for the Antrim County vote disparities is automatically disqualified, IMHO. The fucking article that they link to when stating that specifically contradicts that statement. (The 6000 vote error was caused by errors during data entry on a different set of software).

      This is what is so frustrating. Nobody is interested in the facts at this point. On the Right, you have people throwing literally everything against the wall, and hoping something sticks- and there is no willingness to own up when something gets disproven. On the Left, they pick that one thing that gets disproven and insist that it is all a farce (a la, ENB).

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        At this point, the only thing that could possibly be done to ensure the counts are legit is a colonoscopy-type audit, with the military overseeing the process and registered D/R election monitors. There are third-world countries who manage to be less dysfunctional in their vote counts.

        Counterpunch had an article last month on the Bolivia elections that seems to be playing out in a very similar manner here.

  24. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1328125355270483976?s=19

    For those who believe today's (Critical) "Social Justice" movement continues the noble work of the Civil Rights Movement, or is about civil rights at all, you should learn that it arose out of the aspects of the 1960s activism that Civil Rights leaders said weren't their movement
    The Civil Rights Movement was rooted in liberalism, equality, and universal humanity. The Critical Social Justice movement is rooted in Critical Theory, liberationism, equity, and narrow identity politics in a style formalized in the late 1970s.
    It's almost impossible to express how diametrically opposed the Critical Social Justice movement is to the Civil Rights Movement, and people don't believe you even when you show them quotes. The CSJ movement regards the CRM as part of a grand conspiracy to maintain racism, tho.
    Maybe the easiest way to do this is to realize that the Civil Rights Movement marched with placards reading "I am a man." Critical Social Justice, in its own words, says, "I am Black" is more meaningful and important than "I am a person who happens to be black."
    The Civil Rights Movement explicitly tried to minimize the social significance of race. Critical Race Theory as part of Critical Social Justice explicitly forwards it and increases its social significance for the style of radical identity politics mentioned previously.
    Kimberle Crenshaw, founder of intersectionality and co-founder of Critical Race Theory, wrote explicitly that saying that one's racial identity is less important than their universally human identity is the specific problem where the Civil Rights Movement got things wrong.
    It's utterly galling to me, and it should be galling to you, to see these (Critical) "Social Justice" activists pretending they continue and advance the same noble agenda as the Civil Rights Movement. They do the opposite, and they pollute and pervert a shining gem of history.
    PPS: Here's a quote directly from a book carrying the title "Critical Race Theory: An Introduction" where they tell you what CRT is actually about, including that it rejects the approach of the Civil Rights Movement, rationalism, equality, and the constitution.

  25. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    Free minds, free markets, and soft coups:

    Retiring diplomat says he hid from Trump the true number of U.S. troops in Syria
    “We were always playing shell games to not make clear to our leadership how many troops we had there,” James Jeffrey said, according to Defense One.
    https://justthenews.com/world/middle-east/retiring-diplomat-says-shell-games-used-avoid-clarity-us-leaders-about-syria

    James Jeffrey—who is retiring from his posts as the Special Representative for Syria Engagement and Special Envoy to the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS — reportedly said that "shell games" have been used to avoid telling U.S. leaders the true number of American troops in Syria.

    “We were always playing shell games to not make clear to our leadership how many troops we had there,” Jeffrey said, according to Defense One.

    Jeffrey reportedly said that when President Donald Trump was interested in withdrawing from Syria, arguments against a withdrawal were presented to the commander in chief.

    “What Syria withdrawal? There was never a Syria withdrawal,” Jeffrey told the outlet.

    1. MikeP2   5 years ago

      I don't know why he hasn't been arrested.

      1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

        Arrested? This is exactly the sort of thing that will get him a promotion in a Biden administration. That's exactly why he's openly gloating about this, he's angling for a job.

    2. Moonrocks   5 years ago

      AHA! So now you admit that Trump never pulled troops out of Syria!!

    3. mad.casual   5 years ago

      So, can somebody clarify this for me, if every last grunt and officer who read this article packed up kit and walked out of Syria, what exactly happens?

      Personally, if I were deployed and read this, my going AWOL would probably be the best outcome for everyone involved.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        You really think SOF guys are going to rock the boat and give up their combat pay?

      2. Moonrocks   5 years ago

        You'd find your ass in Leavenworth. This guy may get promoted for directly contradicting the President's orders, but he's an aristocrat. You're just a peasant.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

          Exactly. And where the fuck are these guys going to go if they just up and leave the forward line? They're in the goddamn Middle East, it's not like they can just hop on a plane back stateside if they go AWOL. The first thing that happens if they try to get on a plane in Ankara back to the US is they'll get detained and some glow-in-the-dark locks them in a hole indefinitely.

  26. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1327288706550685696

    1/ Michigan's monthly death data provides a look at the terrible impact of the lockdowns.

    From June to September 2020, 33,549 residents died - about 2,300 more than the previous year - a 7% increase.

    Because #Covid, right?

    No. Michigan classified 784 of the deaths as Covid...

    1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      They're simply using statistical analysis to impute coronavirus deaths - you see some improbable numbers and you can assume they must come from somewhere and coronavirus is the most likely culprit. It's not some sort of conspiracy to see excess deaths and assume that some portion of them are unreported coronavirus deaths.

      Note: Statistical analysis only works for coronavirus deaths, when you see improbable numbers appearing elsewhere, say for example in election results, there's no need to try to find an explanation for the numbers.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        "Anything that undermines the left-liberal consensus is misinformation."

      2. Ron   5 years ago

        or did the increase come from those who were no longer allowed to see family so they gave up living. When you believe no cares anymore its not hard to let your self go.

    2. CE   5 years ago

      the COVID war is sort of the like the drug war.
      Everyone realizes the cost is terribly high, and we still have the problem they were supposed to address.

  27. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1327588831659483137

    DENMARK: 9 days of protests over a new law that "would be able to define groups of people who must be vaccinated. People who refuse the above can be coerced through physical detainment, with police allowed to assist."

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      The government backed down.

  28. Nardz   5 years ago

    He was also head of the TSA from summer 2015 to 1.20.2017.
    Was in Coast Guard, not Navy

    https://twitter.com/1776Stonewall/status/1328222499285463041?s=19

    A man named Peter Neffenger, a retired Admiral, is president, and listed on the board of directors of 'Smartmatic', which created the software for Dominion. Neffenger is on the Biden transition team

  29. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/LeonydusJohnson/status/1328346157337239555?s=19

    So, you're willing to cancel your Thanksgiving and Christmas because the government told you to? How much further are you willing to go? How much more are you willing to sacrifice because the government told you it's for the greater good? Where is the line drawn?

    1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      There is no line. It is time to do as you are told.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Crazy times when going out of state to see your family for the holidays is considered subversive and rebellious.

      Stay in your pods and eat your bugs, citizens!

  30. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    Socialism has never been tried:

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/14/new-stats-reveal-massive-nyc-exodus-amid-coronavirus-crime/
    More than 300,000 New Yorkers have bailed from the Big Apple in the last eight months, new stats show.

    1. Bill Godshall   5 years ago

      If most of those 300,000 folks left NYC before the Census was conducted, the state should lose another Congressional seat (when districts are redrawn next year) that is now held by a Democrat.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Trump should have put a wall up around NEW YORK CITY to keep the Urbanneuroticvirus contained.

  31. sarcasmic   5 years ago

    Oh my God people! You don't need facts or evidence to prove election fraud! The proof is self evident in Trump's loss! That's proof of fraud right there! And until he wins it will continue to be a fraudulent election!

    1. MikeP2   5 years ago

      "And until he wins it will continue to be a fraudulent election!"

      It will continue to be a fraudulent election whether he wins or not. Rational people, particularly libertarians and independents, should be very concerned about future elections based on the extremely clear evidence of voter fraud. Get down to the local level and see what people in swing states/counties think about their local district results. Particularly in classic republican counties in rural PA, where Biden somehow increased his vote numbers 25% over Clinton. It's a joke, and people are livid.

      1. sarcasmic   5 years ago

        Bull crap. If Trump had won you and the rest of his sycophants would be saying it was the most orderly and fraud-free election in history.

        1. MikeP2   5 years ago

          no...no I wouldn't. Because I'm not some Trump sycophant. If the dems had put up a candidate that would have made the country better for my kids, then I would have happily voted for them. But no, they nominated corrupt slavers.

          But the fraud is blatantly obvious to anyone with an open mind. As yet, no one is able to ascertain how Biden increased his turnout 25% over Clinton only in swing states, while being flat or down in other parts of the country. It is an extreme anomaly based on prior election history. Maybe political pundits could spend time investigating and trying to understand how that happened instead of the non-stop gaslighting about how there is "nothing to see, move along".

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

            Yeah, but that might undermine their Color Revolution and they can't have that.

    2. Moonrocks   5 years ago

      You know, your "evidence free" slogan would hold a bit more weight if the districts that are alleged to have election fraud weren't the same districts that were illegally blocking poll watchers from watching the polls.

      1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

        To put this in an analogy, it's like saying that the police have no evidence that the mob hitman has committed murder when they couldn't open the meat locker.

        The whole point of having election monitors is to have people from both sides that can't say that the election was fraudulent. Blocking opposing-party monitors isn't proof of election fraud, but it absolutely looks like hiding evidence of election fraud.

        1. JesseAz   5 years ago

          Al Capone's only crime was he hired a bad accountant for taxes.

          This is the idiocy of people like sarcasmic.

          1. sarcasmic   5 years ago

            Your obsession with me is starting to creep me out.

  32. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/drdavidsamadi/status/1328300475691708418?s=19

    Is anyone paying attention to what's happening in Denmark?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Is this after they supposedly found a new strain of the coof in minks, in order to justify shutting down the mink farms and putting in new lockdowns?

  33. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    Yea, this election was totally on the up and up

    https://twitter.com/lukerosiak/status/1328170513332572160
    Mailchimp, a common email delivery service, has refused to provide service to the Northern Virginia Tea Party, citing that it violates their terms of agreement about "potential... misinformation." It had attempted to notify members about a recount rally.

  34. Knutsack   5 years ago

    I read somewhere that Biden's vote counts in all major metropolitan areas was below Hillary's except in Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Philadelphia.

    Then I read this:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/5-historical-trends-that-show-its-utterly-shocking-if-trump-lost-in-2020/

    Yes, it's the Federalist, but that doesn't mean it should automatically be dismissed.

    Things just seem off with the results of this election. It's possible that things are on the up and up, and there is no evidence of fraud, but so many things seem to point the other direction.

    Whether there was fraud or not, trust in the system continually erodes and Trump is going to be posed to be back in four years. I can't wait for heads to explode then.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      You're a useful idiot if you don't think there was enough fraud to sway the election.

      Biden. GTFOH. I'm gonna have to right this until he steps down or forced to.

      No way in hell did this corrupted, plagiarizing, senile, moronic, mediocre Irish hoodlum won this. I don't care how much Trump is a jerk. Just look at how it all unfolded. It's straight out of the banana republic 'How to defraud elections' playbook.

    2. MikeP2   5 years ago

      Things are way off. The gaslighting from the left and the media is in overdrive to distract people from the clear evidence in the local districts/counties. People darn well know its fraud when their local precinct has 25% more votes for Biden then Clinton pulled in and no ones knows where they came from.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        Biden won jack shit.

  35. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    Remember when Reason didn't suck DNC cock?

    This Is the Number of Innocent People Murdered by Governments. Are You Anti-State Yet?
    Being antigovernment is the logical result of taking a close look at the state and its bloody works.
    https://reason.com/2014/05/15/be-antigovernment-and-proud/

    1. Longtobefree   5 years ago

      That was then, this is now.

    2. Stilgar   5 years ago

      Remember when Reason wasn't a haven for Orange trolls?

      1. OneSimpleLesson   5 years ago

        Go back to your sietch.

  36. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1328017991821389824

    The Ongoing Death of Free Speech: Prominent ACLU Lawyer Cheers Suppression of a New Book

    "That censorship occurs not only by state action but also cultural and societal coercion has often been explicitly stated by the ACLU itself. That’s why the civil liberties group has referred to Facebook’s banning of offensive speech as “censorship." Its Censorship page also:

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      ACLU lawyer says stopping the book on transgenderism that Target pulled and its ideas is ‘100% a hill I will die on’
      https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/11/14/aclu-lawyer-says-stopping-the-book-on-transgenderism-that-target-pulled-and-its-ideas-is-100-a-hill-i-will-die-on/

      1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

        ACLU SECRETLY DEMOTES FREE SPEECH
        https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/aclu-secretly-demotes-free-speech.php

        As portrayed by Kaminer, the guidelines suggest that, for today’s ACLU, free speech is just another “competing value or priority” to be balanced against others. Per the guidelines, in selecting speech cases to defend, the ACLU will now balance the “impact of the proposed speech and the impact of its suppression.” Factors like the potential effect of the speech on “marginalized communities” and even on “the ACLU’s credibility” could militate against taking a case.

        1. mad.casual   5 years ago

          As portrayed by Kaminer, the guidelines suggest that, for today’s ACLU, free speech is just another “competing value or priority” to be balanced against others.

          Oh good, equal time defending the 1A *and* the 2A from the ACLU!

      2. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        ACLU lawyer dying on a hill? I am sure we can facilitate that.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Where progressives can't gaslight people into accepting their ideology, they'll suppress anything that speaks out against it.

      But the "right-wingurz R da reeeeeeel fashists."

  37. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/thuletide/status/1328092319170646017?s=19

    Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum (part of the United Nations network) says the Fourth Industrial Revolution (part of the Great Reset agenda) will "lead to a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity"
    simply put, this means globally enforced transhumanism

    reminder: the first-ever usage of the term "transhumanism" was by the first director of the United Nation's UNESCO organization, Julian Huxley, who was brother of Brave New World dystopian "fiction" author Aldous Huxley
    both Fabian Socialists

    HG Wells, another Fabian Socialist, wrote probably the most mask-off globalist books of all time
    the TL;DR of his book 'The Open Conspiracy' is pretty much "if you wanted to create a one-world government, here's exactly how you should do it"

    the aim of the Fabian Socialists is an incredibly slow transition to what can most accurately be described as global communism, ruled by a one-world government (combined with satanic transhumanism), which is coincidentally exactly what The Great Reset entails

    since nobody knows what Fabian Socialism is, maybe "Techno-Communism" is an accurate term for this new stage of globalism

    "neo-liberalism" is a meaningless meme word invented by dumb Chomskyite leftoids who want to pretend that the New Left is somehow distinct from globalism

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      1) Why does it always seem to be Teutons at the forefront of nefarious plots....

      And...

      2) He looks like a character in Dr. Strangelove.

      Bill Gates looks Jeremy Freedman.

  38. Bill Godshall   5 years ago

    The hatred and hostility for Trump expressed by ENB and many other Reason writers/editors for the past four years has destroyed the objectivity and credibility of this formerly libertarian organization.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      Welcome back, Rip Van Winkle.

    2. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      Yup

    3. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Sad but I'm afraid you're right. I hope to see some nuance about him but instead got raw sewage we can get anywhere else.

  39. lap83   5 years ago

    "*Two* documented cases of voter fraud out of nearly 7M ballots. Both cases involved Republicans. "

    The court of twitter is always in session!!! And the verdict is always: ORANGE HITLER

  40. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1328342166007992323?s=19

    Did you know that Dominion's voting software "Allows staff to adjust tally based on review of scanned ballot images"?

    Their words, not mine:

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Been reading about that. Crazy.

      Hey, they're Canadian!

  41. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/team-biden-hires-economic-team-focus-systemic-racism

    According to Bloomberg, the Biden team has already selected dozens of progressive economists to help with the transition, including Mehrsa Baradaran, whose book "the Color of Money", is a critical text for contemporary left-wing economists. She's joined by Lisa Cook, an economist at Michigan State University, on the "landing team" for banking & securities regulators, including selecting potential new members of the Federal Reserve board of governors (for which there is presently one vacancy).

    They are among more than 500 experts who will be called upon to deliver an important racial "perspective" as Biden and his team hash out reforms related to health-care, housing and other issues.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Buy gold and silver.

      America just had one of its greatest economic runs in history until the pandemic hit (and I'm starting to suspect a lot of this was coordinated from a potential bio-warfare attack to the election coup) and then decided Biden was going to reset it?

      Not buying it.

      And if these Independents did hand the election to Biden then I'm going to conclude a) just join the DNC and stop kidding yourselves and b) they're over rated.

      1. Nardz   5 years ago

        Not bio warfare, psychological warfare.
        It's looking to me that covid19 is basically a normal virus, a common variation.
        Then some people got together and developed a plan.
        That plan started, months after the virus was first noticed, with China taking extraordinary measures that the Western press could play up into something "novel" and indicative of a "unique" threat.
        And from that point forward, all the plan required was responding to common cold/flu like it was an apocalyptic plague.
        Politicians, press, hospitals - everybody was in on it. The technocrats put on a show, and destroyed the people's world.

        1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

          Yeh those hospital scenes lasted, what, 10 days? Ok, maybe 21.

          Ain't happening now but boy do they keep people terrorized with their 'modelling'. Canada is especially acting irresponsible and grotesque. Eight months of 'wait in three weeks! IT'S GONNA BE HELL! SO WE HAVE TO STEAL YOUR LIBERTIES'.

          CRIMINALS.

          All theatre for sure. But boy are people still terrified. Well done criminals. Chapeau.

          But remember. Some cultures believe karma is real.

        2. Ron   5 years ago

          it doesn't even take a plan more like copy cat the idea. hey look how China is controlling its people. Well hold my beer and watch.

          1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

            Yeah, this is what it looks like to me. A freak occurrence trumpeted into a crisis that powerhungry elitists didn't let go to waste.

  42. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/germany-wants-avoid-yo-yo-shutdown-economy-4-5-months-severe-lockdown-measures

  43. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    ...outside of some especially sycophantic Trump supporters in Congress and MAGA grifter world—Republican leaders have been refusing to indulge the president's tantrum.

    Unlike the sycophantic Democrat journalists who proclaimed in 2016 that Putin had compromised the US election? And, for the love of Gaia, THEY'RE ALL GRIFTERS. Every Dem or Rep politician or operative, jockeying for more and more prestige and power.

    Also, they do need to keep at least Georgia Republican voters engaged until the Senate races are settled. It's a valid tactic that, let's face it, is doing no more damage to out grand republic than Gore did in 2000 or Russiagate did in 2016-2020, impeachment notwithstanding.

    1. raspberrydinners   5 years ago

      What a crock of shit. Gore had a valid case and it's very, very clear that Trump campaign coordinated with Russia if you actually read the Mueller report (we know you didn't.)

      This is nothing but destroying institutions for political gain. But what else would I expect from you fascists? You'll burn it all down to get power.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        For the love of God.

        /places name into Excess Retard column.

    2. raspberrydinners   5 years ago

      Gd traitorous fucks here.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

        You can't spell treason without, well, you know...

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        If opposing you and your side is wrong, I don't want to be right.

        1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

          Don't worry, your side is right. His side is left.

      3. Sevo   5 years ago

        "Gd traitorous fucks here."

        If lefty shits are upset, something is right.

  44. raspberrydinners   5 years ago

    All these snowflake sore losers need to just move the fuck on.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      Like in 2016?

    2. Sevo   5 years ago

      All these lefty shits need to fuck off and die.

  45. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

    Did anyone notice Trumpistas looting and rampaging peacefully after the election and during the rally his past week-end (which I noticed got little attention)?

    Me either.

    1. lap83   5 years ago

      No, but they did get assaulted

      1. CE   5 years ago

        AP: Violence Breaks Out at Trump Rally

    2. Moonrocks   5 years ago

      Bull. Shit. Despite the fact that there's days upon days of video of leftists rampaging and looting and there's virtually none of right-wingers doing the same, the violence from the right is still FAR more prevalent and dangerous.

      1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        Lol. smh. /raises finger to make point...withdraws. Walks away.

      2. CE   5 years ago

        okay, count and compare the number of small businesses destroyed, burned and looted in 2020, between left wing and right wing protesters.

  46. Longtobefree   5 years ago

    To which Twitter affixed a memo stating, "Official sources called this election differently."

    Funny thing; the only actual official source is the Electoral College.
    They haven't called anything.

    1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      People on Twitter have made a meme out of it, quote tweeting the president with their own obviously untrue captions.

      Which Twitter similarly flagged as misinformation. Right? Or does the "obviously untrue" cover that? Funny that I don't remember Snopes fact-checking of the Babylon Bee being dismissed as "obviously untrue", it got the Babylon Bee suspended from Twitter.

  47. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    This may not render Trump's antics harmless, since some people will unwaveringly believe them forevermore.

    The less legitimate everyone sees the federal government, the better off we'll all be. Trump's election was supposed to knock the prestige of the office down a peg. Maybe that just came four years late.

  48. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

    Outside the MSM beltway fake garbage, can we get a confirmation Trump withdrew a 'key component' to his lawsuit?

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Wouldn't be the first time ENB let TDS giddiness get in the way of facts.

      1. mad.casual   5 years ago

        Wouldn’t be the first time ENB let TDS giddiness her functional retardation get in the way of facts.

        (Presumably) Trump's out. TDS is/should be no longer a thing. Moreover, just like Dalmia, ENB was pretty functionally stupid on a great many issues that had nothing to do with Trump long before Trump.

  49. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

    Looking at the "Top charts" on the Google Play store, I'm seeing the most downloaded apps ranked this way:

    1. Parler
    2. Newsmax
    4. MeWe
    6. TikTok
    9, WhatsApp
    10. Instagram
    13. Discord
    15. Snapchat
    37. Twitter
    44. Facebook

    Parler (1) and MeWe (4) are social media replacements for Twitter (37th) and Facebook (44th) respectively, and two weeks after the election, Parler and MeWe are still trouncing Twitter and Facebook. Even Discord, which is like social media + zoom, and Snapchat are almost up there with Facebook's Instagram.

    Some people are saying they don't think Parler can keep up this momentum because Parler has a rickety interface and doesn't work properly half the time. It's even hard to sign up and authenticate when you first download it. I think those people are missing the point. If people are flocking to Parler--despite its rickety interface--because they're sick of being treated like shit by the big social media companies, that's even worse news for the big social media companies. If consumers are willing to suffer a rickety interface just so long as they aren't using Twitter--how can that be good news for Twitter?

    Newsmax (2) is a pro-Trump news service that's even further to the right than Fox. A nice chunk of that is probably about conservatives who are mad at Fox for calling the election for Biden before the final counts are certified.

    Anyway, the point is that people's assumptions about what's happening and why are often screwy. We imagine that future will be like the past only more so, but the state of social media appears to be in flux.

    The average American was never a social justice warrior, and conservatives have just as much power as any other consumer. There is a price to pay for the news media and social media companies when they treat half their customers like shit, and I think we're seeing that bill starting to come due. It's true that Parler and MeWe have a long way to go before they reach the scale of Twitter and Facebook, but they're gaining ground every day.

    1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      Until they get banned from the apps stores and banks decide they don't want to do business with them.

      1. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

        I don't see any reason to assume they'll ban them. If Google banned anything out of self-interest, it would have been TikTok.

        1. CE   5 years ago

          they'll be banned for promoting hate speech and unverified conspiracy theories, because they don't police comments to the same standard as Twitter.

          1. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

            We'll see.

            I'm not sure Google or Apple have a dog in the fight between Facebook and Twitter, on one side, and Parler and MeWe on the other.

    2. Nardz   5 years ago

      Fox isn't to the right at all.

    3. Juice   5 years ago

      You have to give them your phone number. No thanks.

    4. The White Knight   5 years ago

      Wait, I thought the government has to force Twitter to be completely fair toward conservatives because they cannot just go somewhere else, such as Parler to post short messages. Now, it turns out they can just move to Parler after all. So confusing.

      1. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

        You noticed that, too?

        ; )

  50. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

    The Biden Cancer Initiative "gave out no money to research, and spent most of its contributions on staff salaries," reports the New York Post.

    Most of these big NGOs are little more than tax write-offs for the wealthy and special interests. The McCain Institute at Arizona State runs a similar grift.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      Don't forget the cocktail parties, status-seekers, and virtue signaling.

    2. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      Tax write-offs? Surely you jest. I've heard only crooks and charlatans use tax write-offs to reduce their tax bills.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        In this case, they're called "charitable donations."

  51. lap83   5 years ago

    If the allegations by Trumps team and others are true, this election has been badly tainted and needs to be overturned. But I only see two likely outcomes...

    1. Biden wins anyway and then we get the "satisfaction" of knowing he is surrounded by people who should be locked up.

    2. Trump miraculously wins by the election going through the representatives. Which the left will be convinced is only something a dictator would do (because they have been preparing the base for that the last 4 years)
    The rioting and violence following that would be unimaginable.

    Either way, our country is going down the toilet. It makes me sad.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      2 is the lesser of the two evils.

      The damage Biden can do is potentially irreparable.

      You can handle the 'peaceful protest' trash. No one will miss them. Did I just Pinochet this thread?

  52. a libertarian   5 years ago

    At this point how does Trump even transition to accepting the loss and leaving the White House without looking like the biggest loser of all time? This is going to be so brutally embarrassing for him and his followers

    1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      Yeh because Obama looked over a smooth transition. He set that precedent because he's a shithead.

      I say Trump scorches the system by declassifying everything.

      Take the swamp down with him.

      It's already impossibly corrupted anyway.

      Try and tell me Hillary Clinton is any different from Tony Soprano.

      You can't. Because she got 'votes'? As you can tell by this election, it's all a scam. Heck, it's probably an open-secret the DNC stole this one. They rig their own fricken primaries for FFS.

      1. a libertarian   5 years ago

        It would be great if he did that, but he won't because he is a pathetic loser. We were supposed to get 8 years of winning and he couldn't even fend off a confused old man and his socialist buddies.

        1. Brandybuck   5 years ago

          He never managed to build his wall, never managed to abolish and replace Obamacare, never managed to do a single thing he promised. He couldn't even get out of Syria and had to apologize and walk back his suggestion.

          And he had two full years with his party in control of both houses.

          1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

            Isn't there a site that follows the wall's construction in real time?

            Seems like it's being built and coulda sworn I've heard border agents be interviewed (on conservative radio of course) discuss it.

          2. Ron   5 years ago

            if the generals hadn't been playing shell games with soldeirs lives in Syria maybe they would be out.. BTW why isn't that general in jail for lying to the president or is this a common thing where the military does what it wants no matter who is in office

            1. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

              Seriously. Text book treason.

              And didn't he admit Trump's instincts are good?

          3. Sevo   5 years ago

            "He never managed to build his wall, never managed to abolish and replace Obamacare, never managed to do a single thing he promised. He couldn’t even get out of Syria and had to apologize and walk back his suggestion."

            Devos, 3 SCOTUS justices, unemployment at 3.0% (!), the US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high, got repeal of the national medical insurance mandate, withdrawal from Paris climate agreement, and there's more.
            Just couldn't find a cure for raging cases of TDS from lefty shits like you.

          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

            And he had two full years with his party in control of both houses.

            Huh, wonder why he wasn't able to repeal Obamacare during those first two years. Couldn't have had to do with that piece of shit McCain killing the effort. Nope, not at all.

            1. The White Knight   5 years ago

              Trump fans are really free with the partial credit.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

                I'm looking forward to your family members dying of the coof this winter.

        2. Sevo   5 years ago

          "It would be great if he did that, but he won’t because he is a pathetic loser. We were supposed to get 8 years of winning and he couldn’t even fend off a confused old man and his socialist buddies."

          Might have to do with raging cases of TDS like yours.

    2. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

      He can leave without making a public speech about it, telling everybody how wrong he was. He just says that he's stepping down for the good of the country, but that they stole the election.

      The Democrats claimed that Trump stole the election from Hillary with the assistance of the Russians, too, and Trump just went ahead and assumed office anyway. Why wouldn't the same thing happen in this situation?

      P.S. Trump doesn't care if his critics don't think he's cool.

      1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

        The most delicious part of this is that he'll spend the next 4 years on Twitter whining and complaining endlessly about how the election was stolen from him - and the media is going to report on every last one of his tweets. They can't help themselves, no matter how much they say they hate Trump and want him to just shut up and go away, they'll be giving him the biggest platform in the world to get his message out.

      2. mad.casual   5 years ago

        P.P.S. - Trump's supporters in 2016 and 2020 didn't vote for him because they thought he was cool.

        P.P.P.S. - Unless Biden does something genuinely radical and unifying, whomever they all vote for in 2024 will be even less cool/more protest-y.

        1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

          P.P.P.P.S Biden is a crook.

  53. Sometimes Bad Is Bad   5 years ago

    ENB mocks court proceedings and gets new via Twitter.

    Some libertarian.

    Meanwhile the push to deplatform continues. How long until it gets to reason koch? I mean I know they are kneeling and bowing to the left already but will the woke crowd care?

    1. Árboles de la Barranca   5 years ago

      there's woke and there's "reason woke."

  54. Brandybuck   5 years ago

    > But while the legal hits keep coming for Trump and his allies, the president and his staunchest supporters have grown more enthusiastic in public, evidence-free assertions of a stolen election.

    In the skeptic community this is known as the "Gish Gallup", after the creationist guy who would throw so much stuff out in a debate that it couldn't all be countered in the allotted time.

    Trump is just throwing out so much shit that there will always be something unaddressed. Lawsuits everywhere. Dozens. When one gets dismissed as baseless another gets filed somewhere else. If he weren't the president and have special privileges to do so, he could be charged with
    Vexatious Litigation.

    It's a huge country, 50 states, with 3141 counties. There is going to be fraud out there. Always has been. But there isn't enough to turn the election around. Pennsylvania found only two cases of out. Not enough to turn the state to Trump. In order for Trump to have won legit, he would need to show tens of thousands of fraudulent votes. He hasn't done that, none of his suits even purports to do that.

    He's just throwing shit at the fans in the hope that the flying poo will caress his ego.

    1. Nardz   5 years ago

      You're pathetic

      1. The White Knight   5 years ago

        Maybe so, but he speaks the truth on this matter.

    2. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      There's no proof that the Harlem Globetrotters were cheating against the Washington Generals either, but when you look at the numbers and they look that unusual, you have a right to be suspicious there was some sort of funny business going on somewhere.

    3. Sevo   5 years ago

      "...But there isn’t enough to turn the election around..."

      Tell that to Joe Kennedy, and stuff your TDS up your ass so your head has some company.

    4. CE   5 years ago

      Well so far Trump's lawyers haven't proven any fraud that would move the needle.

      But to pretend it's all just throwing stuff at the wall and the election was completely free and fair is to ignore some very odd coincidences (stats from the NYT):

      In Pennsylvania, mail-in ballots broke 78-21 percent for Biden, even though the state vote overall was 50-49 percent.

      In Michigan, Biden won the mail-in vote 68-30 percent, but the overall state vote was 51-48 percent.

      Fine, maybe Democrats are more likely to vote by mail, since they take the COVID-19 threat more seriously?

      In California mail-in ballots were 68-31 percent in favor of Biden, in a state that voted 64-34 percent for Biden. So Pennsylvania mail-in voters are as liberal as California mail-in voters?

      So maybe Democrats just mail in their ballots at a high rate everywhere?

      In Ohio (also a key Midwest battleground state), mail-in ballots went 58-41 percent for Biden, in a state Trump won 53-45 percent.

      1. The White Knight   5 years ago

        "In Pennsylvania, mail-in ballots broke 78-21 percent for Biden, even though the state vote overall was 50-49 percent."

        Trump spent months telling Republicans not to vote by mail (unless they lived in Florida, then they were supposed to vote by mail).

    5. The White Knight   5 years ago

      "throwing out so much shit that there will always be something unaddressed"

      You may have noticed that this is what JesseAz, R Mac, and other CACLLs do here every day. They re-post dozens of stories from right-wing media every day. About 90% of the time, when I follow up on something JesseAz posts, it turns out to be b.s.

  55. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

    He's not even in power and we're getting many glimpses into what Biden-Tard will look like.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/13/joe-biden-transition-official-wrote-op-ed-against-free-speech/

  56. Nardz   5 years ago

    "It's not just the flu"
    "There is no fraud"

    You should be very skeptical when the media in unison so directly contradicts a possibility.
    Thou doth protest too much.

  57. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    The Treehouse is Deplatformed…
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/15/the-treehouse-is-deplatformed/

    What does this mean? It means CTH is being kicked-off the WordPress website hosting platform because the content of our research and discussion does not align with the ideology of those who define what is acceptable speech and what is not.

    What was our violation? After ten years of brutally honest discussion, opinion, deep research and crowdsourcing work -with undeniable citations on the events we outline- there is no cited violation of any term of service because CTH has never violated one.

    The WordPress company is not explaining the reason for deplatforming because there is no justifiable reason for it. At the same time, they are bold in their position. Perhaps this is the most alarming part; and everyone should pay attention. They don’t care.

  58. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1328361739826712578?s=19

    James: something something administrative state something

    VeRY sMArT pEOpLe: Biden is a moderate Dem! We'll hold him accountable to his moderate voting base!
    Show me how it's done, boyz.

    Looking forward to the bevy of VeRY sMArT pEOpLe explaining how I'm overreacting to an article that indicates that Biden already intends to place 500 administrators focused on "race." Anything that I look foolish and be wrong.

  59. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1328362035017560065?s=19

    Here is your “empathy” and “unity” you Fukin morons.
    But I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

    1. Juice   5 years ago

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vCFjU3pkfsQ

  60. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1328359801995235333?s=19

    The first step in gaslighting the public is establishing "official sources" as indisputable authorities.

    1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      But Twitter is itself an official source so surely you would agree that they have the right to declare who is and who is not an official source, would you not? It's simple logic, really. Science even. You're not a science denier are you?

    2. CE   5 years ago

      They're confusing educated guesses by primary media sources with official sources.

  61. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1328334448199393280

    the great reset is not new in any way, shape, or form. it's just a critical race theory rehash of the club of rome policies with a better powerpoint deck.

    mussolini cold have easily written it if someone had taught him the word "stakeholder".

    it's classic fascism.

    this sort of dictatorial control is the seductive trap that smart people fall for.

    "i'm smart so everyone would be better off if they all just did what i said" is some seriously powerful kool-aid to get drunk on.

    always has been.

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      Automated luxury space communism:

      Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better
      https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/

      Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city - or should I say, "our city". I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes.

      It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.

      First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes. We started transporting ourselves in a much more organized and coordinated way when public transport became easier, quicker and more convenient than the car. Now I can hardly believe that we accepted congestion and traffic jams, not to mention the air pollution from combustion engines. What were we thinking?

      Sometimes I use my bike when I go to see some of my friends. I enjoy the exercise and the ride. It kind of gets the soul to come along on the journey. Funny how some things seem never seem to lose their excitement: walking, biking, cooking, drawing and growing plants. It makes perfect sense and reminds us of how our culture emerged out of a close relationship with nature.

      "Environmental problems seem far away"
      In our city we don't pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.

      Once in awhile, I will choose to cook for myself. It is easy - the necessary kitchen equipment is delivered at my door within minutes. Since transport became free, we stopped having all those things stuffed into our home. Why keep a pasta-maker and a crepe cooker crammed into our cupboards? We can just order them when we need them.

      1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

        Sounds like heaven .... for viruses.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      I read an interesting assessment recently of these globalist initiatives recently, putting them in light of how the world's governments have reacted to COVID specifically. The guy made a point that these are just the latest in a long line of One World Government/scientific utopianism fantasies that have waxed and waned over the last 100 years or so. He talked about how these people see humanity's problems, including at the individual level, in purely materialistic terms. There's no problem that can't be solved by some "scientific" policy or program.

      There's literally no room for questions of a person's spiritual needs, because they don't believe that spirituality exists, and therefore never need be considered. Thus, ALL of their solutions are proffered on purely materialistic terms, promoted by "experts" with college degrees, who are treated like a priesthood of scientists and bureaucratic mandarins that can never be questioned. "It's Science!, you imbecile, who are you to say that you know more than the experts? Now shut up and do what the experts say, and don't put yourself above the greater good."

      These people are little more than religious zealots, except their religion is "scientism," a system of pure materialistic belief that there's no problem that can't be solved by "experts." Thus, when something happens which undermines the authority of the "experts,"--like, say, a massive spike in COVID cases despite social engineering policies specifically targeted to prevent such an event from happening--the blame doesn't fall on the failure of the experts' policies. The blame is placed on those who "didn't do their part," much like religious cults which blame the failure of their prophecies or community disasters on the populace for not being faithful enough.

  62. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1328362120791126016?s=19

    Fun time to remember that the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, which endorsed 2+2=5 over the summer, was created by the largest-ever donation to Harvard, which was made by a guy with direct ties to the CCP.

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      That's why we need to throw another $50K per student at Harvard. It isn't fair to make the CCP fund its own propoganda 100%.

  63. Nardz   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1328370699136864256?s=19

    What’s he waiting for?

    "The chairman of the Maricopa County supervisors, Mr. Hickman (a good man) has the power to issue subpoenas (after a board vote) to compel Dominion reps to open the software for a full forensic audit by county IT staff. ARS 11-228. @AZGOP @kelliwardaz"

    1. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

      Failure theater. The ruling class is just trying to make this go away for their own convenience.

  64. I, Woodchipper   5 years ago

    Trump's unprecedented disrespect for constitutional and procedural norms.

    Please. I'm old enough to remember 2016 when democrats were calling for electoral college members to defect.

    1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      As I often said, the unprecedented part of all this is that Trump was a Republican and yet he was acting just like a Democrat. Nobody had ever seen that before, the Democrats didn't know how to handle him. I mean, usually you only need call a Republican a racist and he goes into full hunker-down defense mode, they slung every sort of attack at Trump and he refused to play the game they way they wanted him to play it. He has balls and a spine and doesn't give a shit what the media and the self-appointed "Very Important People" think of him, the exact opposite of a "respectable" Republican.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

        He has balls and a spine and doesn’t give a shit what the media and the self-appointed “Very Important People” think of him, the exact opposite of a “respectable” Republican.

        That's why the Uniparty had to get him out. Can't have any changes to that 80-year record of the Republicans largely acting as controlled opposition.

    2. Moonrocks   5 years ago

      I'm old enough to remember 2011 when a certain 100% scandal-free Democrat president ordered the assassination of a US citizen for exercising his free speech rights.

    3. CE   5 years ago

      Several of them did:

      Hawaii: one vote for Bernie Sanders
      Washington: three votes for Colin Powell, one for Faith Spotted Eagle
      Maine: one vote for Bernie Sanders (blocked by Maine)
      Minnesota: one vote for Bernie Sanders (blocked by Minn)
      Colorado: one vote for John Kasich (blocked by Colo)

      But both sides:
      Texas cast one vote for Ron Paul and one for John Kasich

      Dems were hoping for Kasich or Powell to get enough votes to throw the election to the House

  65. Stilgar   5 years ago

    The way to handle the student loan mess is to give them the same terms the Fed gives to banks - 0% or close to it. So instead of forgiving loans, cut the rate to 0.25% and use any interest already paid in excess of that against principle.

    1. I, Woodchipper   5 years ago

      No. The way to handle student loans is to hold the lenders and borrowers to their terms, like anything else.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      This isn't less dumb now than when Elizabeth Warren proposed it, what, about ten years ago?

  66. I, Woodchipper   5 years ago

    Those with college debt will be thrilled, of course. But lots and lots of people who didn't go to college or who worked to pay off their debts? Gonna be bad.

    You don't say?!?! It's unbelievable that anyone could think this is a good idea. Take a bunch of money from people and give it away to the most privileged wealthiest class of folks on earth: college grads.

    only a democrat could think of something this dumb.

    1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

      Why can't they take the money out of those fat university endowments? And how did those endowments get so fat in the first place while tuition costs have skyrocketed and faculty pay on average has plumeted? And can claims that a college degree helps in job hunting be counted as fraud?

      All these questions and more will not be asked by the vast majority of university graduates who got such a good education that they'd never even consider them.

  67. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

    Just read Giuliani explain via Twitter about the 'withdrawal' is BS and questions people's reading comprehension.

    Which begs the questions: ENB, what's your point? And did your verify the claim better or were you just being lazy and relying on other sources?

    1. Nardz   5 years ago

      Kinda like when she wrote that the whistle-blower retracted his claims... 12 hours after he vociferously denied that he'd ever retracted his claims.

  68. Dillinger   5 years ago

    >>"At what point does this get ridiculous?" asked Judge Andrew P. Gordon

    recuse yourself.

  69. Ra's al Gore   5 years ago

    https://twitter.com/OneFineJay/status/1328310640075796481

    A lot of mainly center-right, and some center-left people spent the first few years reassuring everyone that the Republic can survive four years of Donald Trump.

    As someone else said: the Republic probably can't survive everything that was done to get rid of him.

    The media has violated and abused public trust.
    Big Tech has meddled too obstrusively in our speech.
    Mayors have allowed riots by refusing to call the Guard because it might make Trump look good.
    Publishing platforms like Medium and WP dot come are deplatforming dissenting views.

    Every institution has set itself on fire because Orange Man Bad.

    Donald Trump didn't do that to them. They did it to themselves.

  70. North49   5 years ago

    As libertarian party votes plummet in response to 'woke libertarianism', ENB continues to insist she and her identiterian friends 'have the numbers!' When will she concede???

  71. Kungpowderfinger   5 years ago

    SpaceX just launched four privately financed astronauts into orbit Sunday night and is about to rendezvous with The International Space Station.

    The astronauts donned their custom white flight suits and arrived at the Kennedy Space Center launch pad on schedule at 4:30 p.m. in three white Tesla SUVs, flanked by NASA and SpaceX personnel.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-exploration-spacex/one-heck-of-a-ride-spacex-launches-astronauts-into-space-idUSKBN27V0I3

    Fantastic job, SpaceX. Why no coverage from Reason?

  72. CE   5 years ago

    "Official sources called this election differently"????? according to Twitter?

    I wasn't aware that the votes were certified yet, and I'm sure the Electoral College hasn't met. Some states are still counting. Heck, some are still accepting ballots.

    And no, the Associated Press is not in charge of elections.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   5 years ago

      Exactly, Twitter gets it wrong, yet claims to have fact checkers.

  73. Moderation4ever   5 years ago

    Let shift from Trump's stupid legal tricks are running out to why his administration is not beginning the transition. That should be the focus at this point.

  74. jomo   5 years ago

    It's weird that people think swing states can't do swing state things like swinging. Maybe the upper Midwest, in the thrall of the worst COVID spikes we've seen, got sick of the fact that not only has Trump denied it the whole time, it's not even discussed any more. In fact he has discussed nothing at all except his conspiracy theories for literally weeks on end now. Maybe people didn't take kindly to the attempt to kidnap their governor.

    So now that Trump is literally alleging that the entire US election system is completely untrustworthy and rife with fraud everywhere, when he announces his 2024 run will it be four years of beating that same drum right up until the 2024 election? And then what? Let me guess, if he loses (again) it's just the same old fraud and if he wins, poof, it's all legit again?

    1. EdG   5 years ago

      While I agree with you for the most part, it's karma that Trump is doing to Democrats what Democrats did to him after he won in 2016. Democrats spent the past 4 years in La #Resistance, claiming without evidence that Trump colluded with Russians, braying that "Democracy Dies in Darkness", and going Full Maddow on everything Trump did and said. Plus impeachment. If you expect Republicans to behave any differently toward Biden, I think you're in for a rude awakening.

  75. loveconstitution1789   5 years ago

    "At what point does this get ridiculous?" asked Judge Andrew P. Gordon of the U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada, who is hearing one of at least 18 cases nationwide challenging some facet of the presidential election results.

    Election fraud challenges are a joke to these people.

    The United States is just not going to survive were election fraud is this widespread and acceptable to government officials.

  76. jomo   5 years ago

    Except the judge didn't just randomly say that out of nowhere.

    These claims are being filed with stupid names, in stupid places, with stupid "evidence" and there are only so many times judges have to nicely remind lawyers not to risk their licenses over filing spurious claims based on hearsay and the like.

    Just because someone files a claim doesn't make it true.

    Lawyers can't just continually file cases based on feelz. Anyone with a law license, even if they barely squeaked it out, knows that eventually you cannot just keep confusing "zealous advocacy for your client" with "just keep bringing random cases" like for example, 'Trump vs. U.S' without evidence and without even succeeding to make out a recognizable legal claim before a judge will eventually do what they are supposed to and dismiss the suits and also sanction the attorneys.

    You seem to equate raw number of suits filed with "actual number of provable allegations." Kinda like how Ken equates "number of people switching to a message platform or news outlet that is
    openly pro-Trump and denies all contradictory information" with "number of people that are right about what's actually happening."

    Pretty much your whole schtick at this point is "as long as I only listen to Breitbart/NewsMax and just keep repeating the same unsubstantiated claims, they will eventually become true, and if that doesn't work, we'll just jam in new electoral college voters and MAKE it true."

    I know this may be shocking to you, but some people out there still believe this weird old rule that burden of proof is on the claimant.

    1. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

      Except the judge didn’t just randomly say that out of nowhere.

      He did say it about something completely unrelated, though.

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