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Major Cities Spend Weekend Prepping for Possible Election Night Riots

Plus: Fate of Texas drive-thru ballots still uncertain, exposure to diverse news sources is up, Oregon may lessen penalties for possessing drugs, and more...

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With questions lingering over whether President Donald Trump will declare victory before all ballots are counted, an already tense election could be taking an especially dark turn. Whether justified or not, fears of official shenanigans and election night rioting have prompted people and businesses in big cities across the country to start freaking out, boarding up, and preparing for possible riots.

On the one hand, all the boarded-up businesses and at-the-ready riot cops seem a bit overwrought. Americans have disagreed passionately about candidates and even presidential election results before without taking to the streets and burning shit down.

But Trump and Republicans have spent the past several months telling their supporters that voter fraud would be widespread this year, and in the past week they've only kicked up attempts to delegitimize election results should Democrats prove victorious. If victory is called for Joe Biden, there could be a lot of folks genuinely convinced that the results are a sham—and ready to do something about it.

Meanwhile, Biden supporters (or those who at least consider him the lesser of two evils) have seen weeks of polls and pundits telling them their guy will almost definitely win, while watching the GOP try hard to cast any scenario where Trump doesn't win as suspect. And, according to Axios, Trump told those close to him that he will declare victory if he happens to have a lead as election night closes—all those yet-to-be-counted ballots be damned—though he has also publicly denied this.

Should anything like that happen, a lot of Americans will be justifiably irate and ready to do something about it. But with anger over Trump as intense as it is, even a seemingly legitimate victory would be likely to produce suspicion and some protests.

If history is any indication, whichever group might take to the streets on Tuesday night will be filled largely with law-abiding Americans who merely want to make their voices heard. But a minority who want to use more than just their voices can still be a seriously destructive force.

Businesses near city centers and protest hot spots aren't crazy to take precautionary measures. What's worrisome is the extra law enforcement cities are allegedly enlisting. If there's one thing that can turn a boisterous-but-peaceful protest violent very quickly, it's overzealous cops amped up on premonitions of chaos and fate-of-democracy-in-our-hands fantasies.

Faced with excessive action by authorities, even otherwise peaceful people may feel like more extreme action is justified and perhaps even helpful.

But "the first imperative of civil resistance is nonviolence—that is, maintaining the discipline not to strike out or strike back," Judith Shulevitz reminds people at The Atlantic. And if the moral aspect isn't enough, then think of practicality:

Nonviolence is effective for two reasons: The obvious one is that vandalism or fighting attributed to protesters, rightly or wrongly, will serve as an excuse for a crackdown. The less obvious but probably more important reason is that the ensuing chaos is sure to alienate the silent members of the public not yet sure which side to join.

In that sense, nonviolence undergirds the second rule of a winning protest strategy: It must pull in the mainstream. …. A prodemocracy movement's most important constituencies are the institutions that keep society running: banks, businesses, the military, schools, the media, government bureaucracies, police, the judiciary.


FREE MINDS

More research disputes the conventional wisdom that the internet has led to people only consuming news that conforms to their biases. "The abundance of media options is a central feature of today's information environment. Many accounts, often based on analysis of desktop-only news use, suggest that this increased choice leads to audience fragmentation, ideological segregation, and echo chambers with no cross-cutting exposure," states the abstract of a new paper published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. And yet:

Contrary to many of those claims, this paper uses observational multiplatform data capturing both desktop and mobile use to demonstrate that coexposure to diverse news is on the rise, and that ideological self-selection does not explain most of that coexposure. We show that mainstream media outlets offer the common ground where ideologically diverse audiences converge online, though our analysis also reveals that more than half of the US online population consumes no online news, underlining the risk of increased information inequality driven by self-selection along lines of interest. For this study, we use an unprecedented combination of observed data from the United States comprising a 5-y time window and involving tens of thousands of panelists. Our dataset traces news consumption across different devices and unveils important differences in news diets when multiplatform or desktop-only access is used.


FREE MARKETS

Oregon will vote on lessening penalties for possession of all sorts of drugs. An initiative on the state's 2020 ballot—Measure 110—would be a huge step forward, even if it's not exactly the decriminalization measure many are making it out to be. If Measure 110 passes, Oregonians caught with small amounts of LSD, heroin, cocaine, and other "hard drugs" would no longer face incarceration or other harsh penalties, the Associated Press reports. But possession would still invite interaction with the cops and result in either a $100 fine or mandatory attendance at state-sponsored anti-drug classes.

"Oregon's measure is backed by the Oregon Nurses Association, the Oregon chapter of the American College of Physicians and the Oregon Academy of Family Physicians," A.P. notes.


ELECTION 2020

The Texas Supreme Court yesterday said no to an attempt to get nearly 127,000 ballots tossed. With no comment, the court rejected "a bid by three Republican candidates and a GOP activist to toss out almost 127,000 votes cast from drive-thru lanes in the emerging Democratic stronghold of Harris County," reports the Austin American-Statesman. But these ballots are still in jeopardy:

A federal judge will hold an emergency hearing Monday morning — less than 21 hours before polls open on Election Day — to hear arguments on a similar challenge filed by the same group of Republicans, who say that state law prohibits drive-thru voting, so every vote cast from cars during the early voting period should be tossed out as illegal.

At the same hearing, U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen will weigh a request by Democratic organizations and the party's U.S. Senate candidate, MJ Hegar, to join the case in defense of drive-thru voting — and the 126,911 votes cast that way.


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  1. With questions lingering over whether President Donald Trump will declare victory before all ballots are counted, an already tense election could be taking an especially dark turn.

    Reverse QAnon stuff.

    1. Even if he did, it doesn’t mean anything. All that matters is the states certifying their electors and then the electors meeting and electing the President.

      1. It is also extremely rare to not know the winner before all votes are counted. If a winner-takes-all state has 50,000 absentee ballots and one candidate has a 500,000-vote lead before those votes are counted, we do not need to wait for the final count to know who won that state. (Obviously, we should still count those votes, but they will not make the difference.)

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      2. And that’s what makes a statement like ENB’s so ridiculous. DJT is going to declare victory on the thinnest bit of evidence? Who’da thunk it?

        What matters, and what has always mattered for the last four fucking years, is what he actually does.

        But the rioters are going to riot on the thinnest bit of evidence. Violence. Chaos. You know…actual actions. Yet we should be concerned about DJT “declaring victory” as if that is an actual substantive thing.

        1. Look, the riots have already been planned. Any “reason” is just an excuse.

          1. No no no I have it on good authority that Antifa is an idea, not an organization. Ideas can’t plan silly!

            1. So ideas can’t plan, but they can set fires that cause hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage and straight up assassinate people they disagree with in the streets? I guess I don’t really understand what an idea is.

              1. But it’s Trump who’s the problem. ENB is now officially a whore for the left.

              2. Show evidence and figures on the property damage. And, even though you rank it second, of the assassinations (leave out assassinations by police).

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      3. It is difficult to imagine a more cowardly, craven, and dishonest website than this one. These writers are as libertarian as my ass is a perfume factory. They are Brooklyn hipster liberals who were looking for a writing gig, and landed one at Reason. They were told “Hey, write the same liberal ‘Orange man bad’ stuff you would write if you were at the Times, but try to sound vaguely skeptical, and say some random shit about free markets and legalizing drugs. We want people to think that’s what libertarianism is.”

        An article talking about post-election violence that equivocates between conservatives— who have occasionally engaged in short and minor skirmishes with the Leftists who were already in the streets— and the violent Leftists who have taken to the streets of Portland, Seattle, NYC, Kenosha, Minneapolis, Chicago, Philadelphia, burning, assaulting, harassing, beating, and murdering people for HUNDREDS OF DAYS AND NIGHTS OF VIOLENCE— is fucking absurd.

        Reason, and all of your writers, you are propagandists, gas-lighters, and liars. Go duck yourself. Thousands of people have been injured by violent leftists this year. THOUSANDS. Not by republicans who surround a Biden bus for a photo opp, only to get “investigated” by the FBI, but by violent Leftists. Thousands of businesses have been destroyed, many of which will never return. Neighborhoods and probably whole cities will be affected by the Leftist violence that has ALREADY occurred for decades to come.

        And yet Reason doesn’t have the balls to identify the fact the VIOLENT LEFTISTS are the ones consistently responsible for it.

        This is what happens when all of your writers come from the little Marxist indoctrination factories that we call Universities. You end up with Marxist “Libertarian” writers who mysteriously can’t seem to recognize violent Leftist violence when they see it. Of course, that makes sense, why would libertarians be bothered about Marxists? Libertarians are cool with Communism, right? As long as drugs and prostitution are legalized and the propaganda department keeps telling us we have “free markets,” then it’s Reason’s brand of Libertarianism.

        Reason’s new slogan: “Never mind the Holodomor, it’s New Libertarianism!”

        Fuck this piece of shit rag. Leftists have killed Dozens of people this year, injured hundreds permanently, and destroyed billions of dollars of businesses. And Reason just can’t seem to see it, and most certainly can’t find time to report on it.

    2. Note that the left is talking about this because they think the results will be bad for them. Nobody’s talking about Biden declaring victory (prematurely or otherwise) because there’s no reasonable scenario where that could happen.

      1. I noticed Democrat Congressmen from swing states warning DNC how popular Trump is.

        It does not bode well for Biden.

        1. Biden’s latino outreach directors have been criticizing the lack of an organized get out the vote initiative by the Biden campaign and say they are growing increasingly alarmed by the lack of a plan or any organization.

      2. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but three rights make a left. Are you an ordinary working American? Can you understand and talk to other ordianry working Americans? If so, then you can understand and talk to the “left”, and they can understand and talk to you.

      3. It is funny, isn’t it? It’s being shouted from the rooftops that Ttmo’s defeat is certain and there is not legitimate way he can win… But everyone is obviously certain that in fact he will win. Nobody’s boarding up their businesses to protect them from Trump rally-goers.

        The left has been playing footsie with Police who have their hands tied behind their backs. And likewise with the members of the public they’ve been harassing and attacking. They’ve been starting fights with people who are not interested in a fight, they’re just trying to live their lives. And so the misshapen, misguided, maladjusted weenie army is emboldened. But if they keep pushing, they will find that their sense of confidence and competence is sadly misplaced.

        As Bill Maher said, let’s skip the civil war.

    3. ENB is such a stupid cunt.

      All elections for over a century have been called “before all the ballots are counted”.

      It’s how Dewey beat Truman.

      1. The media’s hoping for a “Dewey, Cheatem and Howe beats Trump” headline.

        1. If nobody else will….

          [golf clap]

    4. Hello.

      The peaceful protestors deserve a Nobel Peace prize.

      1. Mostly Peace Prize?

      2. If Yasser arafrat and kofie Annan can win one why not?

        1. For a warmonger to get a Nobel Peace Prize, you’re supposed at least to have some kind of cease fire which isn’t obviously being broken during the ceremony.

          Or they can jump the gun and give it to him before he has a chance to start any wars – and no take-backsies!

    5. If victory is called for Joe Biden, there could be a lot of folks genuinely convinced that the results are a sham—and ready to do something about it.”

      Unlike the left that has been violent for some time now but ENB thinks the right is the real threat. Only if the left start acting on their claims of more violence. We are tired of their BS.
      I will be prepared for anything after the election. Deer season is over but my equipment is still in my truck

      1. I just flagged your comment. Of course a big, tough he-man like you isn’t afraid of a little charge of inciting to violence in a public forum, are you? All the more because it’s easy to be a he-man when you’re hiding in the comfort of your cushy home.

        1. “I do not think that word means what you think it means.”

          Inciting violence is quite different than saying you will be ready for violence if it comes. Everyone I know has loaded up on ammo and is prepared to defend their homes if the Leftist mobs decide to come try to burn our houses down like they’ve done in city centers across the US.

          But have no doubt that there are large numbers of very tough guys who are ready, willing, and eager to take on violent Leftist mobs who threaten them, their property, and their families. Don’t kid yourself that they are armchair warriors. Let’s pray that it doesn’t come to that. It would be bad full stop.

    6. Russians under every rock.

  2. …fears of official shenanigans and election night rioting have prompted people and businesses in big cities across the country to start freaking out, boarding up, and preparing for possible riots.

    I’m guessing it’s fear of one thing more than the other.

    1. Why would anyone be afraid of some peaceful protesting?

      1. Because they might still have a small business that wasn’t burned down in the first round of mostly peaceful protests, and they might have a small window of time where they can open it up to serve customers before the next COVID-19 shutdown?

    2. people and businesses in big Democratic cities across the country
      FTFY
      Note that most of these cities are already freaked out and boarded up, given months of nightly “peaceful protests.”

  3. https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1323061302575591425

    Activists who drive a crisis are often confident they know where the cliff is and push transgressively ‘knowing’ they will be safe, if only by inches. But events have a way of shifting boundaries. The cliff edge crumbles in the dark and you are over before you know it.

    Journalists wake up to the sound of hammers boarding up city centers and startle to unprecedented sights. The more perceptive say to themselves: what have I done?

    Crossfire Hurricane lit a fuse and nobody knew where it ultimately went.

    1. Media people are such whores and idiots that they never saw America hating them because of the Propaganda nor that supporting rioting and other violence would make sure Trump get reelected (repeated history of 1972 election).

    2. First rule of new journalism: Never under any circumstances ask yourself “what have I done.” Always ask “what has Orange Man done to force me to do what I have done.”

  4. ,i>Americans have disagreed passionately about candidates and even presidential election results before without taking to the streets and burning shit down.

    This is the first time we’ve had a Hitler in the balance. Except for Romney. And McCain. And Bush.

    1. They were just literally Hitler. Trump is Hitlerer than Hitler. He’s the Hitlerest we will see until 2024.

      1. TBH, just like with everything else, Trump is terrible at hitlering.

        Would a good hitlerer put the same embassy in Jerusalem and arrange peace for the Israelis, push the First Step Act and let record numbers of blacks <inot be in jail?
        Even worse, he let his family race mix and has Jewish grandchildren.

        What a failure. He’ll never live up to the left’s expectations.

        1. Trump: The. Worst. White. Supremacist. Ever.

          1. well he does fail at everything from being a billionaire to president he can’t even do racism correctly what a failure.

      2. Sam Harris himself declared that he’s worse than Osama bin Laden.

        1. Sam Harris can be a narcissistic shit whose more than a little dishonest on occasion, but I don’t know if he’s as bad as bin Laden.

    2. they took to the streets the day of Trumps inauguration. Saw a little tv show last weekend that showed some of the violence that occured that kept people form going to Trump’s inauguration.

      the show was Huangs World. a total left leaning shit head. watch the episode where he goes to DC for teh inauguration to be a part of the protest.

      1. Ahhhh! So Trump wasn’t making up “alternatuve facts” when he claimed there were millions at his inauguration. There were, but they were Leftist rioters!

  5. https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1323107838734999552

    The social media platform content police in media turn their guns to Substack within the next year claiming “hosting extremist content” guaranteed.

    There have been conversations at Twitter about acquiring Substack, seeing it as a kind of Twitter premium

    1. Not even slightly surprised. The destruction of any other platform is a necessity, because if they don’t destroy them when they are too small to fight back, their user base will eventually flee to the higher content sites.

      Pressuring paypal to not do business with the new sites has been one of the main methods this has been done. Which makes me wonder when a new payment processor is going to see the grand opportunity to not care who’s money they process (likely there is some law that’s preventing someone else from stepping in if we are honest though)

      1. A couple have tried, only to have the actual banks tell them “nope.”

        1. bitcoin or some copy of it?

          1. Yep!

    2. Note that this is only likely because rules put into place around the 2000 dotcom/enron failures have made it more difficult for startups to access independent capital. IPOs are very difficult if your company is not massive, and investors tend to have a high overlap with the big tech giants. So generally, a tech competitor goes like this: get funded by venture firm that is big in the tech industry. When you breakout in the market, get a second round of funding- usually from the angel investor who also helps bring in a large technology fund, like from google. Then when you have significant promise, the funders all push you into selling out to an established tech company.

      If you want alternatives to Twitter, Facebook and Google, your best bet is to loosen up these restrictions that put large barriers to entry for competitors.

      1. If only the big competitors weren’t working day and night to make sure those barriers grow ever larger and more complicated. How do you expect to get any state entity to loosen up the restrictions when they exist explicitly to create restrictions and implicitly create the restrictions for the benefit of the big players.

  6. Sure all those Trump supporters will just suddenly start rioting. Unlike the peaceful protestors on the left who did absolutely nothing all summer and were praised by reason for their restraint.

    Fuck. You.

    1. Notice how big sellouts unreason staff are.

      Lefty riots and violence = peaceful protests

      Trump supporters with flags, lining up for rallies, and bad driver changing lanes into one other car = TERRORISM!

      1. Well what about those troglodytes driving their pickup trucks into Portland festooned with *gasp* American Flags. Trump supporters are instigating violence by causing Antifa people to have to murder them in the streets.

        1. There are pickup trucks in Portland?

          I thought it was all Priuseseses.

          1. The trucks came from the suburbs.

          2. Oregon is a redneck state outside of the cities.

    2. Note that businesses in Republican-controlled areas don’t have to make such preparations. The Democrats, however, are just fine with it happening if they don’t get their way.

    3. The Pope is on the balcony blessing the crowds (wearing a maske, of course). A drunken American protestant looks up at him and yells ‘Hey Pope! Fuck you!!’
      The Pope looks down and sadly shakes his head. ‘Fuck me, my son? Me, the Vicar Of Christ, the successor to St. Peter the Pontifex? The leader of billions of Christians around the world?
      No, my son.
      Fuck YOU.’

  7. Philadelphia Looter finds their car destroyed by other looters
    A looter in Philadelphia learnt a major life lesson when her own car full of looted products was looted by other looters overnight.
    https://londondaily.com/philadelphia-looter-finds-their-car-destroyed-by-other-looters

    “This looting shit is not worth it,” the reformed looter says on camera. “Why would they do this to our car? They f***ed us up. Threw all the sh*t out the car. They got us good, like, it’s not worth it.“

    1. Sore loser.

    2. It’s all fun and games until you find yourself pillaged!

    3. This isn’t Babylon Bee?

    4. learnt

      Fucking Brits.

    5. If I was a business owner, then a little counter rioting would feel approximate to me. Have someone follow them home and do a little rioting where they live. It may sound like revenge, but I would do it with love in the interest of education.

      1. Appropriate.

    6. The blinding brilliance of that crowd. But hey, Kamala says we should all end up in the same place.

    7. HER car?

      That car belongs to all of us, just like the stuff in it!

  8. Who are science’s frequent flyers? Climate researchers
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03000-1

    Survey finds climate scholars take more flights on average per year — but make greater effort to offset their emissions buy climate indulgences.

    1. Science’s rules are for the peasants, not the priests scientists issuing the edicts.

      1. We need a science Martin Luther (yesterday was Reformation Sunday, 403 years ago on Saturday he nailed his 95 theses to the church door in Wittenberg).

    2. Like true acolytes in any religion.

    3. They are not scientists. They are effective grant writers.

  9. Major Cities Spend Weekend Prepping for Possible Election Night Riots

    Of course, Democrats and Democrat supporting crony capitalists know that Trump will be reelected.

    This will cause Useful idiots of the Left to incite violence.

    It’s ironic that violence and threats of violence are exactly why Trump gets reelected.

  10. https://twitter.com/LeeSmithDC/status/1322908808247713792

    [Maskless] Joe Biden discusses national mask mandate with reporter. ‘Sweetie, the whole point of making the rules is that you make them for other people.’

  11. More research disputes the conventional wisdom that the internet has led to people only consuming news that conforms to their biases.

    Most people get their biases from the news they consume?

  12. The alarmist Covid modelling that panicked the PM into lockdown doesn’t pass the smell test
    We aren’t even allowed to see the working behind the scenario that 4,000 people could die a day

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/01/alarmist-covid-modelling-panicked-pm-lockdown-doesnt-pass-smell/

    Until Saturday, the Government was trying to balance, through a policy of regional restrictions, the competing needs of the economy, mental health and fighting the pandemic. Now, suddenly, policy must be entirely dictated by Covid figures, and it would be a moral disaster to do anything else.

    How can a government flip so quickly? Just as in March, when Professor Neil Ferguson’s study predicting up to 250,000 deaths from Covid-19 unless the government imposed severe restrictions on day to day life, the answer seems to be a frightening graph – or in this case a series of graphs presented by the chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance.

    Who didn’t gulp at the sight of a series of bell curves, the most dramatic showing, apparently, that deaths from Covid would peak at 4,000 a day by Christmas? A shaded area suggested the possibility of an even higher toll of 7,000 deaths a day. Given that, back in April, deaths peaked at just over 1,000 a day, and that the Government’s previous “reasonable worst case scenario” suggested a peak of 850 deaths a day it looked truly horrifying – as, of course, it was intended to. I get the feeling we were not supposed to ask tricky questions about these presentations; we were supposed to give in and accept that there really isn’t any alternative to lockdown.

    Who noticed the small print at the bottom of the graph, illegible on the version flashed before us during the press briefing but visible in the slides published online: “these are scenarios – not predictions or forecasts”? Oddly, there was no source listed for these graphs – we were told only that they come “from a number of academic modelling groups”. We have subsequently learned that the most frightening curve – the 4,000 a day one – was the work of Public Health England (PHE) and Cambridge University. But it does not seem to have been published – and my efforts to extract the study from PHE have so far drawn a blank. Without being able to see its workings, we have no idea what assumptions have gone into the 4,000 deaths a day claim.

    It certainly doesn’t pass the smell test. On Saturday, Public Health England reported 278 new Covid deaths in England. The average number of deaths for the past seven days is 214, up 50 per cent on the week before. If deaths kept on rising at that rate then, yes, you would get to 4,000 deaths a day in December.

    However, a better guide to future deaths is the figures for new infections, which, of course, tend to lead the death figures. Over the past seven days PHE has recorded an average of 22,521 new cases a day – which was a six per cent increase on the week before. If deaths follow the trajectory of new infections – as surely they must, unless Covid-19 suddenly mutates into a vastly more deadly form – they will be nowhere near 1,000 a day by Christmas, let alone 4,000.

    1. even if they did nothing it would be hard pressed to get that many deaths unless they know what really happened in China but think we shouldn’t know about it. Its always the lies they do for our own good that do the most harm.

  13. https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1323050343350083584/photo/1

    NY vs NJ vs TX vs FL vs AZ vs GA Covid deaths, per capita.

    1. “We Is Smart” Covid graph. Lockdowns kicked the can and pushed Covid out to where it coincides with flu season.

      https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1323123648857837568/photo/1

    2. Georgia has 7,981 deaths while infected in 9 months of Kungflu. With no lockdown, no mask or social distancing requirements, and businesses and schools are open.

  14. I Am Now A Trained Anarchist Ready To Punch Nazis On Election Night

    Useful Idiots and their support for the Party of slavery.

    1. What is so funny is that no matter what happens in the election, these morons are screwed. If Trump wins, he will have a free hand to crack down on them hard. If Biden wins, he isn’t going to want to be blamed for chaos on his watch and will have no more use for them anyway. Worse still, the media will cover for Biden such that he could napalm them and the media would cheer him on. So, either way, they are going to end up in prison or dead. And they are so stupid they can’t figure that out.

      1. Do you follow Andy Ngo’s Twitter with its mug shots of antifa protestors? I’m no macho he-man; I’ve never shot anything other than a paper target, but anyone counting on what we see there to keep fighting after someone next to them gets shot is an idiot.

        1. I dunno. The guys that Rittenhouse put in the ground, kept coming after him after Dead Guy #1. Ex-cons—and isn’t it funny how many of these protesters who get arrested or deaded have violent criminal records?—may not give a shit if they’re facing a gun.

          Stay alert, and be prepared.

          1. They had no concept of their own mortality, and that is the frightening prospect.
            Literal zombies

          2. Yeah, it is a mix of mostly soy boy losers with a few no kidding dangerous criminals mixed in.

          3. teh dems have been releasing prisoners for just such a purpose. your average protester won’t do much more than spit but violent felons that Newsom and others have been releasing will. gee if only we had learned from history where another person released prisoners to do his bidding what was his name?? it wasn’t that long ago

            1. and Reason laments the fact that 15,000 appeals for “compassionate release” were denied.

          4. Aren’t you going to add “stand by”?

  15. But possession would still invite interaction with the cops and result in either a $100 fine or mandatory attendance at state-sponsored anti-drug classes.

    Score another one for Big Rehab.

    1. Mandatory rehab for drugs and DUI has got to be one of the biggest wastes of money ever created in our judicial system. The graduation rates are terrible, and the success rate is less than the batting average of the average AL pitcher when they play cross divisional games.

    1. Nah, no landslide (as much as I would like to see one).

      1. All I want to see is him win the popular vote.

        SIMPLY because how many blue states signed the NPV and we will see if they are serious or, as I assume, this is just more pure bullshit.

        They don’t give him the votes and there is a legitimate case to be made to strike down the compact completely.

        1. Trump winning the EC would be surprising, given his path to get there basically means he can’t lose any of the battlegrounds. It’s certainly a possibility, though.

          Trump winning the popular vote simply isn’t going to happen.

          1. If you’re surprised by a Trump victory, you have no knowledge of history or basic human psychology.

            1. The problem that I see is that Trump is having to defend states that he shouldn’t be defending. So, by that conclusion, I feel like even Trump’s internal polling is telling him that this is a worse situation than 2016. Why in the world is Trump spending time in AZ, GA, NC, and IA unless his internal numbers say it’s close? If it is close in those states then I think he’s in real trouble.

              In other words I expected this race to come to a fight between PA, OH, MI, and FL. Not defending generally red states like the ones mentioned above.

              1. Including Iowa kinda shoots your premise down there.

                Trump is getting 50,000 large crowds. He’s getting 30,000 car parades. He’s doing 5 rallies a day.
                Biden, even with Obama, isn’t getting anybody but a couple dozen media members sitting in their cars. He and Kamala called it a campaign only to come back and scramble at the last minute.
                Use your eyes and ears.
                The only evidence that Biden even has a chance to make it close is the MSM TELLING us that he’s winning (except they’re backtracking a bit on that now).
                Trump is getting people who have every reason to hide their thoughts to publicly come out in his favor and face the wrath of their peers.
                Trump is energetic, masculine, projecting strength and an optimistic message.
                Biden shows a complete lack of energy and wherewithal, with a message of doom and gloom.
                If you weren’t being bombarded with brainwashing 24/7, you’d never think Biden was even close.

              2. Why in the world is Trump spending time in AZ, GA, NC, and IA unless his internal numbers say it’s close?

                ::Hillary Clinton has entered the chat::

              3. of AZ, GA, NC and IA, only Georgia is really a red state now.

                1. Says the lefty media.

              4. Poor leo thinks Trump is “defending” those states.

                Hes trying win it all. Trump is trying to get even more voters to vote for him so he claim an even bigger victory over Lefties.

                Trump is trying to get as many people away from the Democrat party as possible.

                Winning the popular vote because he reached millions more black and hispanic voters would signal the demise of the Democrat part6 even faster than
                Trump just winning reelection.

          2. I too believe 538!

            1. It’s hard to deny that Trump needs a lot of things to happen to win the EC. Biden really only needs to win FL, OH, or PA to all but ensure a victory.

              I’m not saying that Trump’s victory is a longshot, but it’s hard to deny that his path is more challenging. Of all the states that we are talking about being in play, none of them were Hillary states in 2016.

            2. And by the way, I’ve stated on here before that I’d prefer a Trump win over a Biden win. Partisan gridlock is almost always the best possible outcome.

              But either way, it should be epic to watch the response of either side from the sidelines. I expect this comment session might actually explode on Wednesday IF we actually have results by then.

              1. We will have results.
                Trump will be winning.
                All sides say this.

                1. Leo is wrong a lot.

                  When democrat congressmen who campaign in small areas are warning how popular Trump is, its very bad for Biden.

          3. Cannot imagine how a party that has a lot of its voters too scared to go vote in person and has an issue with big problems in the mail in voting category, is already underperforming in battleground states, and has serious issues with black and Latino support might not do as well as the polls that even the pollsters don’t take seriously claim.

            1. not to mention a candidate (Biden) who does nothing to inspire turnout, coupled with low information voters who don’t know their own state’s rules and mail in the ballots too late or don’t sign them.

          4. Leo, I don’t think the popular vote win’ll happen either, but if Trump really can pull a quarter of the Black vote, and near 40-50 percent with Hispanics, he’s got a puncher’s chance at it.

            Final guess: 305-233 Trump. Faithless elector. Probably more than one.
            52-48 R Senate. 219-216 R House. Giant amount of litigation, hopefully not bloodshed too. All based on Trump actually getting minority votes for once in the GOP’s life.

            Let’s see if college educated White women manage to screw this up.

            1. The gop did great with minority voters until Johnson signed the welfare act and “had those niggers voting Democrat for 100 years”

  16. …state law prohibits drive-thru voting, so every vote cast from cars during the early voting period should be tossed out as illegal.

    Is it against state law?

    1. not really. So the state law doesn’t say that you can’t vote in your car. It says it has to be in a permanent or semi-permanent structure. So a tent works. My husband voted in a tent outside our library. The plan for the drive-thrus was submitted to the election board and approved prior to the start of early voting. We also have curbside voting that is allowed for sick or disabled where a member of the election crew brings a ballot out to your car at the designated polling facilities.
      My problem with the drive-thru polling was the cost. I don’t feel it was really needed for “safety” and it cost more to operate. We also had 24 hour early voting sites. Texas typically has about 3/4 of it’s voters vote in early voting.

    2. Do you really think they would have put the initiative in place without checking state law? Give those Maoists who want to fuck your dog and kill your wife a little credit for organization.

  17. Harris is a fucking commie.

    https://twitter.com/alexthechick/status/1323128119495188481
    Look, prosecutor, I don’t know why you think you get to Harrison Bergeron everyone but you really really really really don’t.

    1. The Commie quote from Harris:

      There’s a big difference between equality and equity.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154

      1. Yes, there is. One is a core principal of liberalism and the other is evil and inevitably leads to violence and destruction.

      2. One aligns with liberty and the other justifies totalitarianism?

  18. I’m shocked – shocked, I tell you – that ENB finds nothing noteworthy about the POTUS -in-waiting dropping the mask and going full woke commie.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154

    1. Probably because ENB has already dropped the mask and went full woke commie.

      Remember, according to ENB, Ron Paul and his supporters were racist, facist and evil.

      1. Sure, ENB is a woke commie. Woke commies vote Libertarian all the time.

        1. They will certainly lie about voting Libertarian all the time.

          1. That makes no sense. Have you ever known a woke person to lie about how woke they are?

        2. There’s no way in hell ENB (or you) is pulling the lever for anyone but Kamala Harris.
          As the old saying goes, “By their fruits you shall know them”.

          1. Who are you voting for, Mother’s.

            Oh, yeah, you’re Canadian. Yet that doesn’t stop you for being a pro-Trump partisan and rooting for a second American civil war.

            1. No it doesn’t stop me from being a pro-Trump partisan (a label I’ll wear with pride considering the horror of the alternative), even though you desperately wish you could stop me.

              Heil Harris, White Knight.

      2. Ron Paul was the most libertarian Congressman since Davy Crockett, and the most anti-fascist (real anti-fascism) ever. I never heard him speak one racist word in 20 years.

        1. Not according to Elizabeth Nolan Brown:

          “Elizabeth Nolan Brown @ENBrown
          6:21 AM · Oct 24, 2020

          Ron Paul brought libertarians a wave of racist dingbats who like liberty in only a few areas, from which we are still digging ourselves out. Good the fuck riddance

          https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1319977406938177542

    2. Harris is Diana Moon Glampers BTW.

  19. Michigan Governor: Up To Six Months In Prison If Businesses Don’t Surveil Customers For Contact Tracing
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/01/michigan-governor-up-to-six-months-in-prison-if-businesses-dont-surveil-customers-for-contact-tracing/

    1. My 10 year old grandson just got kicked out of school because one of his classmates was in contact with someone who tested positive. The tracers hunted down everyone the kid knows and fucked up their lives. But we need more testing. Yeah. Fuck that.

      1. I will never get tested.

  20. Find the one name you recognize

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_due_to_COVID-19
    This is a list of notable people who have died from coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as a result of infection by the virus SARS-CoV-2 during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    1. I’ve been doing this the other way whenever somebody mentions someone who died:

      Did you hear Wilford Brimley passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Whitey Ford passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Eddie Van Halen passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Chadwick Boseman passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Sean Connery passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Charlie Daniels passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Peter Green passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Regis Philbin passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Ennio Morricone passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Kelly Preston passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Hugh Downs passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Carl Reiner passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Did you hear Joel Schumacher passed away?
      Of COVID?
      No.

      Ian Holm, Fred Willard, Jerry Stiller, Little Richard, Don Shula, Brian Dennehy… ?
      No, No, No, No, No, No…

      1. John Prine and Tom Seaver are the only two that I can think of that were COVID related. Hardly A-listers.

        1. Tom Seaver was an A-lister. He had the highest percentage first ballot vote for the Hall of Fame ever (until recently.)

      2. Sean Connery died of NOT kungflu.

  21. Only Science-Deniers Believe In A National Mask Mandate

    These dum-dums. It says right on the masks they buy “Not for medical use”.

    I don’t wear a mask and Georgia businesses and schools are open.

    1. There is almost zero correlation between mask mandates and decreased COVID spread. And any correlation found in some small studies (usually cherry picked cases that don’t account for other variables) is disputed by other data. If mask mandates work, most of Europe wouldn’t be having huge spikes right now, because many Europeans countries have very strict mask mandates and social distancing mandates.

      1. Europe is going back full lockdown. At least 4 countries in Europe are back to late March.

        What a wonderful job they did!

      2. Yup. It appears that nearly everyone in the World needs to be exposed to this virus so it just become a virus we live with.

        Thanks China!

  22. With questions lingering over whether President Donald Trump will declare victory before all ballots are counted, an already tense election could be taking an especially dark turn. Whether justified or not, fears of official shenanigans and election night rioting have prompted people and businesses in big cities across the country to start freaking out, boarding up, and preparing for possible riots.

    Because it’s Trump supporters who have been rioting and burning down cities for the last six months.

    1. It makes you wonder whether some of the decision-makers on the Left have the idea that maybe Biden isn’t going to win this. And therefore it might be a good idea to extend an olive branch to those filthy rednecks you’ve been slagging for the last six months. Both Bill Maher and Michael Moore had some recent public statements asking people to not take politics so seriously, win or lose on Tuesday, and to come together, rejecting hate. Maybe they think they’re being gracious winners?

      1. I’ve noticed (could be just click bait) that a number of leftist media sites have been running an increasing amount of “the race is closer than the polls show” and “it doesn’t feel like Biden is winning” and “Trump is surging” stories this weekend.

        1. Or “calm down, Biden can still win this” stories.

          1. Paired with stories about how Biden camp insiders are concerned about his lack of get out the vote programs, his lack of campaigning and the fact many admit early voting and mail in voting demographics isn’t what they hoped for (especially in swing states) and lack of enthusiasm among blacks and latinos, it feels like they are trying to hedge their bets. “Yeah we said Biden was going to win, but we also said it was possible he would lose. And he only lost because he was such a bad candidate (and maybe Russia?) and emails.”

            1. I’ve also seen a number of stories “are we seeing a political realignment among minorities?” stories, granted the majority are from right leaning cites but not all by far.

          2. Or, “watch out for far right violence on Election Night if Trump loses”

      2. I don’t advocate violence, but I don’t know if there’s anyone I’d rather come across in a dark alley than Bill Maher.

        1. scarborogh? Tony?

        2. Another big tough he-man speaking from the anonymous comfort of his easy chair heard from…
          I agree that Maher is an asshole. But I’m aslo pretty sure he’d whip your ass.

    2. Exactly my sentiment as well. It ain’t POTUS Trump supporters who are rioting in the streets. Quite the opposite. Trump supporters support the cops.

  23. Lets keep vaccines for diseases that kill/cripple children away from them out of fear of C19, which doesn’t.

    The Campaign To Wipe Out Polio Was Going Really Well … Until It Wasn’t
    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/10/30/929080692/the-campaign-to-wipe-out-polio-was-going-really-well-until-it-wasnt

    1. So far this year officials have tallied more than 200 cases of wild polio and nearly 600 cases of the vaccine-derived form of the disease.

      I blame science-denying anti-vaxxers.

    2. Notice the false dilemma presented there: “If an infectious disease isn’t completely wiped out, we’ve failed.” That’s not how vaccination fucking works. Viruses are over a billion years old for a reason. Vaccines do an incredible job of controlling their spread, but it doesn’t cause them to die off completely.

      Most coronaviruses originate in animals like pigs and bats, not in humans. By NPR’s logic, we should be killing all pigs and bats to eliminate the source of viruses.

  24. I already miss Boehm.

  25. NPR Contributor Compares Trump Supporters To ISIS

    When Lefties punch Trump supporters or shoot them dead, it’s totes RESISTANCE and 100% okay.

    When Trump supporters drive on the same highway as Biden and one guy changes lanes into another vehicle, IT’S TERRORISM!

    1. Someone relied: walk up to both caravans with a rainbow LGBT flag and see how they differ.

      1. Funny since exactly one President was on board with gay marriage before his election.

        That guy was Trump.

    2. The white crossover attempting to shoulder that guy’s ‘big ol’ truck,’ was pretty hilarious. ‘You really aren’t from around here, are ya?’

      As were that bus’s escort of 20-30 Trump flag-flying trucks and cars. My very cynical GF thought the whole thing was a setup, to allow Biden/Harris to save face and shitcan what was looking like a very poorly attended 15 city bus tour. Besides, she didn’t need the bus to make appearances at trial lawyer dinners in Houston. Or techie get togethers in Austin.

      1. So, you are totes cool with goon-like intimidation tactics, as long as it is for Trump. And why not throw in a baseless theory that e Biden campaign staged the whole thing.

        1. They drove next to the bus, dumb shit. Peacefully. Far more peacefully than the ‘peaceful protests’, you’ve been making excuses for here, the last five months.

          It was a Biden campaign vehicle that caused the vehicular assault. Again, according to the video. You don’t get to swerve into a vehicle just because you want to be in a particular lane.

          Now fuck off, White Seagull, and shit somewhere else.

          1. Link to any comment I have ever posted supporting violence or rioting. You won’t be able to, because there is no such comment.

        2. Well, police in the area believe that the white truck was the cause of the issue, not the Trump caravan.

        3. its not illegal to drive down the street. however it is illegal to block roads which the left has been doing for months.

        4. Totally not a leftist!

          1. Dee is a lefty who lies about it.

  26. Reproductive rights groups continue to report a rise in requests for at-home abortion pills.

    Stock up before the Supreme Court ushers in Handmaid’s Tale.

    1. Why do they call themselves reproductive rights groups? No one is cracking down on your right to reproduce.

      1. Focus groups. It seems “choice,” which used to resonate, isn’t working as much as before.

  27. Biden opposes US fracking because, fuck the environment, it is best for the foreign gas companies bribing him.

    1. Do you have any evidence of that?

      More likely explanation for his opposition to fracking is it is in line with the liberal climate change agenda.

      1. ….yet the strip mining required to get the rare earths for their dreams is measures worse, environmentally, than fracking can ever hope to be.

      2. Why are you asking for evidence? You won’t read it if offered.

      3. Fracking is better for the enivor than getting it from other countries that spill as much as they sell. learn science

        1. Where did I say anything against fracking?

  28. “Should anything like that [a Trump victory in spite of our very best efforts to convince all of American that just isn’t possible] happen, a lot of Americans will be justifiably irate and ready to do something about it. But with anger over Trump as intense as it is, even a “seemingly legitimate victory” [well, it COULD happen in spite of our best efforts] would be likely to produce suspicion and some protests [and therefore ‘mostly peaceful protests’ will be totally justifiable].”

    Arrogance like I’ve never seen.

  29. 10,940 federal prisoners applied for compassionate release from March through May, stated the findings by the Marshall Project, and wardens only approved 156.

    Biden and Harris will change all that.

    1. Harris: “156?!? WTF? WE HAVE WILDFIRES TO PUT OUT! MAKE THAT NUMBER -3!!”

      1. Harris: “did their kids skip school? no? then let them out”

  30. Forget about Big Tech censorship, Mailchimp is now going to fact-check all your emails | Tech News
    https://leadershipvision.net/2020/10/30/forget-about-big-tech-censorship-mailchimp-is-now-going-to-fact-check-all-your-emails-tech-news/

    “We recognize how important it is to curb the spread of misinformation, and we take it very seriously. Mailchimp recently updated its Standard Terms of Use(STOU) to make it even more clear that we do not allow the use of our Marketing Platform to disseminate misinformation. Specifically, Mailchimp updated its terms to further clarify our Rules (Section 17 of STOU), which state that we do not allow the distribution of Content that is materially false, inaccurate, or misleading in a way that could deceive or confuse others about important events, topics, or circumstances. This deception or confusion can cause real-world harm.

    “We use a combination of human-run and automated systems to guard against abuse, and we take action against misuse of our platform when we find it through our own processes or after investigating when we receive complaints.”

    1. Hey, if you don’t like Canada, start your own country.

      Free speech has limits, Canada’s Trudeau says
      https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/free-speech-has-limits-canadas-trudeau-says/ar-BB1ayic0?ocid=st2

      Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau defended free speech on Friday, but added that it was “not without limits” and should not “arbitrarily and needlessly hurt” certain communities.

      Justin Trudeau wearing a suit and tie: Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, seen here in August 2020, defended free speech on Friday, while qualifying that it was “not without limits” and should not “arbitrarily and needlessly hurt” certain communities© Dave Chan Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, seen here in August 2020, defended free speech on Friday, while qualifying that it was “not without limits” and should not “arbitrarily and needlessly hurt” certain communities
      “We will always defend freedom of expression,” Trudeau said in response to a question about the right to show a caricature of the Prophet Mohammed, as France’s Charlie Hebdo magazine did.

      “But freedom of expression is not without limits,” he added. “We owe it to ourselves to act with respect for others and to seek not to arbitrarily or unnecessarily injure those with whom we are sharing a society and a planet.”

      “We do not have the right for example to shout fire in a movie theatre crowded with people, there are always limits,” he argued.

      1. It’s like we have Chemjeff for a prime minister, except that he talks like Sqrls.

      2. That’s a funny way to defend free speech. Either it’s free or it isn’t.

        1. I thought it costs $1.05. Not sure what the Canadian exchange rate is.

      3. Leave it to a Canadian PM to cite a non-binding footnote from overturned US law as his defense against free speech.

        1. Yeah, people seem unaware of the context of that quotation. If I recall correctly, the case was about a law criminalizing opposition to the war.

          1. It was.

            The quote was never actually law itself, and even if it was, it was overturned by SCOTUS more than 50 years ago.

          2. And for those confused, he wasn’t saying screaming fire could be banned, he was saying gladly screaming fire and causing injury could get you in trouble for the injuries you caused. That free speech doesn’t protect you from the consequences of that speech.

            1. Not gladly, false screaming fiee

    2. As efficient as the Soviet postal service. They won’t only deliver your (e)mail, they’ll even correct your spelling!

    3. Seeing as Mailchimp’s a spam service for sketchy companies, I can’t imagine how they’ll implement this without killing themselves.

    4. Sounds like a great opportunity for mailchimp’s competitors.

      1. You cawed that already.

        1. Lol. It’s funny because it’s true.

      2. Right, because the CACLLs here never repeat the same conservative talking points over and over. Oh, like, for example the mailchimp story.

    5. shouldn’t MC be canceled just for their name?

  31. Democrats are masking Biden’s frailty: Devine

    So they think they are masking his frailty.

    Trump2020

    1. If that’s a mask I can’t imagine how bad his actual situation is.

    2. I’ve watched both Biden and Trump rallies. Trump is relaxed, funny, surrounded by thousands of supporters. He mostly freeforms and has the audience in the palm of his hand. Biden stands alone in front of a backdrop and reads from a teleprompter. It’s not clear if there is an actual audience present. He literally shouts every word and appears angry the whole time. I’m not making the case that he’s a Nazi but his presentation reminds me of old newsreels from the 30s of Hitler yelling and waving his fist in the air. Not a good look.

      1. except Hitler had charisma

        1. You know who else…wait, never mind.

  32. “Businesses near city centers and protest hot spots aren’t crazy to take precautionary measures. What’s worrisome is the extra law enforcement cities are allegedly enlisting. If there’s one thing that can turn a boisterous-but-peaceful protest violent very quickly, it’s overzealous cops amped up on premonitions of chaos and fate-of-democracy-in-our-hands fantasies.

    Faced with excessive action by authorities, even otherwise peaceful people may feel like more extreme action is justified and perhaps even helpful.”

    WTF? Law enforcement should not attempt to protect lives and property? And rioters who face constraints on illegal behavior are justified in using violence?

    Oh, ENB is back on Roundup.

    1. “Boisterous but peaceful protest.” Wow.

      Am I out of line for hoping a boisterously peaceful protest shows up at DuPont Circle?

    2. I take it boisterous is the new doublespeak for riot. Thank God ENB is too stupid to actually disguise her progressive worldview.

  33. Democrats have outsmarted themselves on mail-in voting and on election eve are having a Wylie Coyote moment

    Poor Biden supporters.

    Anyone else notice Hillary has NOT campaigned for Biden?

  34. “Oregon will vote on lessening penalties for possession of all sorts of drugs.”

    Meh. Until Oregon provides free drugs, along with a living wage to allow stoned people to live comfortably without the hassle of work, they are part of the racist oppressors.

    1. My take is that although this is a very small step in the right direction, nothing will actually be solved until you can legally manufacture and sell drugs.

      Until drugs can be made cleanly, and not in someone’s trailer or in some Mexican drug manufacturing camp in the middle of the mountains, they still won’t be anything approaching safe.

    2. hey, cut that state some slack for doing something right this year

  35. Trump Caravan, Boat Parade Take Over San Diego 2 Days Before Election

    If Arizona and Georgia are “swing states”, then California can be a swing state too.

    1. I can’t believe myself that Arizona or Georgia would go blue this election… but then again, Trump seems to be spending a significant amount of time in these states.

      It would be amazing 4-D chess if the pollsters in the media were able to get Trump to waste considerable amounts of money on GA, AZ, and IA, when he should be spending all of his time in FL, PA, and OH. We shall see soon enough.

      1. Wait you think Trump listens to YOUR pollsters?

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAAHAHAH

        1. Why is he in GA, AZ, and IA over this last week unless he’s worried about those states?

          1. Trump was in PA yesterday.

          2. Maybe because he doesn’t want to emulate Hillary’s mistakes?

            1. I would have thought GA and AZ would have been almost sure things for the Republicans. It’s not like Trump is going to WY and UT. Clearly they’re seeing something different about GA and AZ, which means they’re worried about their internal polling.

              My point is that if GA is even considered in play (and Trump’s visits there suggest even he thinks it is), this looks like a bad day for Team Red tomorrow.

              1. I would have thought GA and AZ would have been almost sure things for the Republicans.

                Hillary thought the “blue wall” was a sure thing, too.

              2. Georgia is the key to black American voters in the South.

                Atlanta is a huge area for Black business, culture, and religion.

                Trump is making huge inroads into new Black voters for Reoublicans.

                1. AZ took forever to finalize for Trump in ’16. Plus they just elected Senator Big Tits over the Republican. A RINO, but still. AZ is far from in the can for Trump, though I think his increased inroads among Mexican Hispanic voters will bring it in for him. Along with putting NV in play. And LOL if NM got terminally butthurt over Biden’s fracking comments.

                  GA is likely as LC put it; Trump trying to suck up to Black voters. Which will have inroads in other key states, like MI and PA.

          3. Trump is trying to win it all so Democrats never win nationally again.

            That requires Trump convince millions of Black and Hispanic Americans to never vote democrat again.

    2. A recruiter just sent me something about a job in Oceanside CA. I’m thinking that job was left open by someone who was fed up with living in California. It looks like it pays very well, but I don’t think it can pay enough for me to move there. The town looks beautiful in pictures and I’ll bet it would be a nice place to live if not for the government.

      1. I wouldn’t live in California at this point if I had Soros-level bucks. Unless you’ve already been living there for 50 years and have your house paid off, any libertarian or conservative would be a fool to voluntarily move there.

        Hell, the fires and earthquakes alone make it unappealing enough, I can’t imagine dealing with that behavioral-sink government of theirs.

      2. Oceanside is very nice. Parts of SoCal are fairly conservative. But Sacramento is getting much, much worse these days.

      3. The weather is amazing. Big military town; Camp Pendleton is right down the street.

        LOL at moving back to CA with anything less than Hollyweird fuck-you money though.

  36. https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1322979079767969792

    Wait, is this
    @ChrisCuomo
    not wearing a mask while getting a haircut in NYC near 80th & Broadway?!

    Would be a shame if everyone saw his hypocrisy

  37. CNN Is Just The Latest News Outlet To Prove Deliberate Lying Is Not An Impediment to Employment
    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/cnn-is-just-the-latest-news-outlet

    Former Trump DHS official, now CNN analyst, Miles Taylor got caught blatantly lying on CNN’s airwaves to host Anderson Cooper, but The Most Trusted Name In News™ doesn’t mind at all.

  38. ENB conveniently failed to mention that Democrat controlled cities are being boarded up in preparation for post election day violence by ENB’s friends who have been rioting and looting those same cities since May.

    1. Her and her gelded hubby will be out there in their Louis Vuitton, brandishing crowbars in one hand and Mai Tai’s in the other, screaming at the proles for being such fools.

  39. “With questions lingering over whether President Donald Trump will declare victory before all ballots are counted,..”

    Uh, did I get Vox instead of reason?

    1. I’m convinced that the only way Trump doesn’t declare victory is if he declares on Wednesday that the election was fraudulent.

      “Jerry, just remember. It’s not a lie if you believe it.”

      1. So you’re Vox?

        1. That’s right. Anybody who thinks that Trump might act irrationally in his own self-interest must be Vox. There’s no history pointing to his own irrational narcissism at all.

          1. There’s plenty of TDS.

      2. We can hope TDS is fatal.

    2. “will declare victory before all ballots are counted,..”

      Note ENB’s weaselly line, “before all ballots are counted”. This gives the game away.

      In every previous election a president has declared victory after it was obvious that they had received a majority of the vote.
      ENB, Kovalensky and the rest of the left are signaling that they plan to declare any claim of victory by Trump illegitimate, and to do so they are going to say not every vote has been counted.

      Here’s where this column sits on Coup Plot V2.0:

      Step 1: Get mail-in voting approved to guarantee a delayed and non-credible election result.
      Step 2: When Trump’s reelection is beyond apparent and he makes a victory speech, claim Trump’s electoral victory is not legitimate because “all ballots must counted”.
      Step 3: Use the power of the establishment media to make it “true” that Trump really lost somehow but has become a dictator, staying in power.
      Step 4: Remove Trump by non-Constitutional means. Frame it as saving the nation.

      1. That’s basically the reason why Democratic governors were trying to extend ballot acceptance and non-verification beyond election day, and why Trump voters wait until Election Day to vote–because they don’t trust the Democrats to not “discover” boxes of ballots in coat closet or car trunk that are 97% Dem.

        A big part of the problem appears to be that Democrats have shot their wad with the mail-in voting push and turned in most of their ballots early, based on registration numbers. Any last-minute Democratic surge now is going to look like voter fraud and will be challenged in court.

  40. https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1323272144638324739

    How radically progressive does one have to be to be left of Bernie Sanders?

    “I think Bernie isn’t radical enough” – Senate Candidate
    @LisaForMaine

  41. Ok….Commenter_XY’s final prediction before election day. I hope Arthur is reading because when I win his contest, I want to collect in-person and meet the man. 🙂

    Popular vote: Biden 50%, Trump 48%, Jorgensen 1%, Other 1%
    Trump will win 11% of black vote, and 31% of Hispanic vote
    Trump loses support with 65+, white suburban women w/college
    Electoral college: Biden 259, Trump 279
    Trump wins FL, PA but loses MI, WI, and MN
    Senate: Team R 51, Team D 49
    House: Team D 243, Team R 192 (nevermind DC or PR)

    SCOTUS will step in regarding PA, NC and rule that state judges cannot change election laws, only legislatures can.

    Finally….I hope as Americans we can all behave better after this election is over. I know if Quid Pro Joe wins, I will not be happy. But I am determined not to be a sore loser. We have had 4 years of sore losers. No more!

    1. I’ll be shocked if Biden hits 50% short of outright voter fraud. I do think he’s going to take the popular vote thanks to California’s massive population, like what happened in 2016, but it will probably be about 48%.

      Trump will win 11% of black vote, and 31% of Hispanic vote

      31% would be less than he got in 2016. Indications are that he’ll actually do better than that this time around. Where he’s losing votes is with college-educated honkies.

      1. Oh, whoops, my mistake, it would be 3% more than he got in 2016. I still think he’s going to do better than that, though.

  42. https://twitter.com/JazzShaw/status/1323270104986112005

    If I hear anymore bullshit from supposed Republicans about how Joe Biden will “unite a deeply divided nation” (or “shut down the pandemic” for that matter) I’m going to vomit. Yes, I’m talking to you, Cindy McCain.

    If you don’t want to vote for Trump, fine. It’s a free country. But don’t insult our collective intelligence by pretending that everyone will suddenly be singing Kumbaya and doing trust falls together just because that demented old fossil is sworn into office.

    1. https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1323106969847132161

      You hate Trump fine but you don’t get to make the case Biden is a dignified man of character because he offers you a Werthers. You’re simply making an excuse for yourself to vote for him.

    2. A balloonhead columnist from the local fishwrap actually claimed that she believed once Hillary won the election, the nation would “begin healing” from the divisive election. The sheer delusion of these people is off the charts.

      If Hillary had won, we’d be looking at a Republican-controlled House and even more seats in the Senate right now, and the level of animosity would be about the same because Hillary is such an unlikeable figure.

      1. Note the pretense that “healing” can only go in one direction, after a Democrat wins. A Republican winning doesn’t obligate these people to do the same.

        1. and all the “divisiveness” is coming from one quarter

  43. The Atlantic has now retracted the Ruth Shalit Barrett story that was her ‘second chance’ 25 years after a journalism scandal – from ⁦
    @jeremymbarr
    https://twitter.com/sarahellison/status/1323076323309461505

  44. https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1323010162127478786

    Why would a vice presidential candidate seemingly endorse full-on Marxism days before a general election? Does she believe government should enforce equality of outcome for everyone? Seriously?

  45. https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1322928964273348610

    Human Rights Lawyer Emma Reilly reveals that the UN is actively sharing the names of Uyghur dissidents with the Chinese Government, telling Maajid Nawaz the actions of the UN here are ‘criminal.’

    1. CCP-backed communists help the CCP oppress dissidents. What a shock.

      1. Money talks, and the Chinese have been shoveling a lot of it around the Third World for the last fifteen years of so.

    2. Don’t worry the current “pope” will be along any second to explain why it isn’t wron or immoral when socialists/commies commit political violence.

  46. https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1322998245950476288

    I’m noticing increasing hatred towards Substack, as if independent reporting creates distrust. It’s a bizarre authoritarian strain, last seen in the mid-2000s dismissal of ‘bloggers’ who didn’t like the war in Iraq. Blogger ethics panel!

  47. https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1322980646688591873

    It’s interesting that Balko works with numerous neoconservatives at the Washington Post and his paycheck is subsidized by Jeff Bezos but he doesn’t understand that two pieces written five years apart by two different writers can have different POVs even at the same outlet!

  48. https://twitter.com/DougHeye/status/1322953526809710592

    Translation: Man, did we get a lot of pushback for saying it’s France’s fault.

    The Associated Press
    @AP
    This replaces a tweet about France and the Muslim world that asked why France “incites” anger. The word was not intended to convey that France instigates anger against it.

    1. France has primed the pump for terror by embracing socialism that leads to wide spread unemployment of the young, but that’s a talk that is waaaaaaay to nuanced to be a news headline or discussed by reporters who are far too dumb to discuss the issue.

  49. https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1322830510729662464

    New York Times Opinion
    @nytopinion
    “The United States should join scores of other nations, including Germany and France, and create a specialized court to decide constitutional questions,” writes
    @Kentgreenfield1

    1. You mean like a Supreme court?

    2. That might be the dumbest thing I’ve read to date.

      1. These people love their One World Government fetishes.

  50. If Trump overperforms with blacks the white liberal racist response is going to be lit. Take screenshots for 2024.

    https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1322758645663358978
    NYC: BLM protesters began to degrade black female NYPD officers and call them racial slurs

  51. What do you suppose those election-night rioters are going to be rioting about? Demanding that Biden be prematurely declared the winner by any chance? Proving once again that the Republicans are always accused of planning on doing exactly what the Democrats are already doing?

    1. Of course they are. And doesn’t the fact that they plan to do that sort of cut against the idea that Biden is going to win at all much less by the margins the media is trying to claim he will?

  52. https://41jellis.medium.com/forty-one-percent-a70c68a4dc22

    Who knows what polls are actually right. But, if it is true that Biden is at 41% in Iowa, he is done. That poll is quite striking especially how Biden has fallen off a cliff over the last week in it.

    1. I pay more attention to the economy than the polls.

      If you ask people in line at Walmart how they feel about trade with China, they’ll tell you one thing. If you look for Chinese manufactured products in their shopping, you’ll see whether they really care.

      If there’s a bright spot for the Trump campaign, it’s the GDP report that came in last week. Consumers are voters, and they’re spending like they have discretionary income again. That bodes well for the incumbent.

      The high voter turn out should give Trump supporters pause. I read that there was more early voting in Texas this election than there was all voting put together in 2016. Normally, I wouldn’t think a high voter turnout was good for Republicans. I hope I’m wrong about this.

      If Trump loses, I sure hope the Republicans maintain control of the Senate. Independents’ view of the media are highly negative. It isn’t just that about two thirds of them are negative on the media. It’s also that a lot of them have gone from having little trust in the news media to having no trust in the news media. If the swing voters aren’t buying into the media narrative, that doesn’t auger well for Biden either.

      1. Wasn’t the S&P indicator you’ve mentioned in the past as being predictive of the Election winner, negative or neutral for Trump this time around?

        Which goes to show just how badly these seditious Governors have torpedoed our economy.

        1. Actually it’s good news for Trump.

          It was bad news last week when the S&P 500 fell so badly with fears of a new round of lockdowns, but it’s recovered since then.

          On August 3, 2020 it as 3,294.

          Right now it’s at 3,311.

          It’s close, but that should auger well for the incumbent.

          Thing are a little different this time because so many people are voting early, but positive sentiment by early voters would have been captured by an even higher S&P 500 before last week.

          I swear. To me, it’s all about policy. Joe Biden’s policies are a disaster.

          P.S. Joe Biden is a crook.

      2. If Biden somehow wins and the Republicans keep the Senate, the Democrats long term might be in worse shape than if Trump wins. Without the Senate, he couldn’t pack the courts or get any of the looney policies his base wants through Congress. Without control of the courts, he would have a long hard slog even reimposing the regulations Trump has repealed and would be lucky to undo what Trump has done and would have very little chance of accomplishing more than that.

        Meanwhile, he would be an unpopular and fatally wounded scandal ridden President from day one. I can’t imagine the size of the Republican wave in the midterms should Biden win.

        1. If Trump wins, I will be laughing my ass off for weeks.

          It’ll be even funnier this time.

          If Biden wins, he will be a laughing stock from day one.

          He’ll have a party divided against any of his attempts at moderate policy, too. He might even side with the Republicans against the AOC contingent in the House.

          1. As long as the Republicans control the Senate, I will be laughing my ass off at a Biden Presidency. If they take the Senate and Biden wins, then that might end up being a real nightmare.

            1. John, I have always maintained holding the Senate is even more important than reelecting POTUS Trump.

        2. Meanwhile, he would be an unpopular and fatally wounded scandal ridden President from day one. I can’t imagine the size of the Republican wave in the midterms should Biden win.

          Moreover, Harris isn’t he pressure release valve they’re looking for.

    2. As an Iowan, I was called by a pollster yesterday and asked if I would vote for Trump on Tuesday. I answered “Probably not” and they hung up right away. They did not let me say “I was going in today and vote for him.” Out of 5 calls from pollsters this year, only once did I convey the truth to them. Usually I answered yes or no to multiple choice questions and they would soon give up.

      1. That’s interesting.

        The lady in my life could say anything at any time depending on when the pollster called. There’s no telling.

        She’s told me repeatedly not to take everything she says seriously. Said I certainly shouldn’t make plans based on whatever she happens to say at any point in time.

        On the basis of quizzing her and people like her, they make predictions?

    3. Did Biden actually fade or have polls been wrong for months and this is a more accurate poll? If this a more accurate poll, makes you wonder if the other state polls are similarly flawed and incorrect. 6-7 point change in many of those polls shows a much different outcome. I guess time will tell.

      1. My guess is that this poll is accurate, and so were the previous polls. People were intending to vote vote for Biden, or planned to vote for Biden. But the latest poll was taken after half the people already voted, and they actually voted for Trump.

  53. “Trump told those close to him that he will declare victory if he happens to have a lead as election night closes—all those yet-to-be-counted ballots be damned—though he has also publicly denied this.

    Should anything like that happen, a lot of Americans will be justifiably irate and ready to do something about it.”

    —-ENB

    A lot of people are ignoring the likelihood of riots if Biden wins–and I don’t mean by Repunlicans.

    There’s this thing called moral hazard, and if Biden wins after the riots in recent months and the media’s refusal to condemn the “protesters”, there are probably plenty of “protesters” who will interpret that as a license to riot. Don’t worry, Biden is on the side of the “protesters” and the media has the “protesters”‘ backs anyway.

    1. A lot of people are ignoring the likelihood of riots if Biden wins because they all think Biden will lose. The leftist media is agitating for the results they want, just like they did with George Floyd’s death, just like they did with Coronavirus, just like they did with the Suleimani assassination, etc. They’re expecting a Trump victory and they’re preparing the ground for their desired reaction to Trump’s victory.

      1. I hope you’re right about who wins, Moonrocks.

        And I hope I’m wrong. I want to be soooooooo wrong.

        1. Me too.
          I hope Trump wins desperately, but the chances that the establishment will let that happen are near zero. He’ll never get past the fraud factor.

          2016 was probably the last free election that the US in its present configuration will see.

  54. Right Wing Violence

    Shut Down DC Targets Conservative Organizations as ‘Trump Boosters’
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/30/shut-down-dc-targets-conservative-organizations-as-trump-boosters/

    Shut Down D.C., a progressive group that says it uses “strategic direct action to advance justice and hold officials accountable,” is targeting at least 27 conservative organizations in the Washington metro area as Election Day approaches.

    An interactive map from Shut Down D.C. lists as “Trump boosters” a range of organizations, including The Heritage Foundation, the parent organization of The Daily Signal.

    Other groups listed include Americans for Prosperity, Competitive Enterprise Institute, FreedomWorks, Leadership Institute, National Taxpayers Union, Republican Jewish Coalition, and UrbanCURE. (The complete list is below.)

    Shut Down D.C.’s map contains the address, phone number, and website for each listed group. It also shows the location of media organizations, technology companies, and government offices in Washington, D.C.

    The left-wing group’s website boasts that “we’re getting ready for an uprising. Now’s the time to get involved so we’re ready to hit the streets.”

    1. It’s Trump’s agitators…that the Biden campaign spent millions of dollars bailing out.

    2. Shut Down DC had such a promising name.
      Too bad they don’t really want to shut down DC, they just want to control it.

    3. Groups like this have become masters at manipulating and managing the (compliant) press and local politicians. They have fine tuned the art of actually carrying out vandalism and destruction while getting all the blame shifted to the other side.

      When you think about it, there’s a lot of skill, planning, and masterful technique necessary to be able to show up at a “protest” in black body armor, a black military helmet, carry a nightstick along with Molotov cocktails, rocks, bricks, and other assorted paraphernalia and then, when the shooting starts, be able to say with a straight face “What? Me? No, I’m just protesting that stinking Trump, which I have every right to do” and get away with it — time and time again.

  55. None of the riots could be the fault of the media saying this is the most important election ever, a once in a lifetime event, our only chance to get back to normalacy, could it?

    1. They’ll end up with Pinochet, and like it. And if the pendulum does take that kind of swing, it usually gets way out of hand.

      They might be lucky if it’s only as bad as The Handmaid’s Tale.

      1. Donalds heavily favor Trump but Josephs are evenly split. Not good for Biden.

      2. Pinochet threw 99% fewer Commies from helicopters in 17 years (a little over 3,000) than Mao and his cohorts killed in 10 years during the Cultural Revolution.

    2. I’m trying to imagine a more useless stat to be spilling digital ink over right now and I’m coming up completely empty. How ’bout we poll people who prefer Coke or Pepsi – predictably RC Cola didn’t get enough votes to make the ballet. Christ our betters are stupid.

  56. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1323000646895808514

    The journalist-led demands for Facebook and Twitter to censor *more*, the attacks against the ability of some to be independent on Patreon or Substack is, as Matt says, the same dynamic that drove media’s anti-blog sentiment: journalists hate anything that permits competition.
    Quote Tweet

    1. Not journalists; corporatist media.

  57. The Worst Choice Ever
    Donald Trump is a disaster, but Joe Biden’s party is democratic in name only. Why this year’s election is a vomit milkshake
    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-worst-choice-ever-5c6

    Joe Biden is a corpse with hair plugs whose idea of “empathy” is to jam fingers in the sternums of people who ask the wrong questions, or call them “fat” or “full of shit,” or dare them to “try me” — and that’s if he remembers what state he’s in. Is he a better human than Donald Trump? Probably, but his mental decline has hit Lloyd Bridges-in-Hot-Shots! levels and he shares troubling characteristics with the president, beginning with a pathological struggle with truth.

    Biden spent much of 2020 lying about everything from his Iraq War vote to his educational history to a fantasy about being arrested in South Africa with Nelson Mandela. The same press that killed him for this behavior in the past let it all slide this time. Same with the growing ledger of handsy-uncle incidents that had adolescent girls and campaigning politicians alike wondering why a Vice President needs to smell their hair or plant lingering kisses on their heads while cameras flash.

    Biden’s entire argument for the presidency, and it’s a powerful one, is his opponent. This week’s election is not a choice between “light or darkness,” but “pretty much anything or Donald Trump,” and only in that context is this disintegrating, bilious iteration of Scranton Joe even distantly credible as a choice for the world’s most powerful office.

    1. “The same press that killed him for this behavior in the past let it all slide this time. Same with the growing ledger of handsy-uncle incidents that had adolescent girls and campaigning politicians alike wondering why a Vice President needs to smell their hair or plant lingering kisses on their heads while cameras flash.”

      Or pinch their tits. But Biden’s still “likely a better human than Donald Trump.”

      Baby steps, I guess.

    2. So what I get is a vote for Biden is like voting for Abe Simpson? I may have to rethink my mcaffy vote

  58. I haven’t been around much but did ENB mention Twitter locking out The New York Post for 17 days?

    1. Local story

      1. Reason Ignore-o-meter:

        It’s Not True
        It’s Russian Disinfo
        It’s True But Doesn’t Matter
        It Matters But Not Very Much
        This is Old News <– YOU ARE HERE
        Shut Up Racist

  59. BOMBSHELL: Hunter Biden Email Names Kamala Harris, Others as Key Contacts for ‘Joint Venture’ With China Energy Co.
    https://twitter.com/BorisEP/status/1323073943104880640

  60. Great, another 2008 style credit crunch to blame on capitalism.

    https://www.cdiaonline.org/biden-calls-for-a-public-credit-reporting-agency/

    The theme of the Unity document is the country’s income inequality gap – no doubt spurred by the recent protests after the killing of George Floyd and others like Breonna Taylor, but also a persisting and complicated issue our country faces. The Unity Task Force members foresee the closing of the income inequality gap by creating a new agency within the CFPB that would provide an alternative to the three credit bureaus. The “public credit reporting agency” is an attempt “to provide a non-discriminatory credit reporting alternative to the private agencies,” the policy announcement said. It would require all federal lending programs to use the public credit reporting agency to evaluate borrowers’ creditworthiness, including for home lending and student loans (two of the most enabling factors when acquiring wealth in our country today). Of course, under FCRA, the three credit bureaus cannot see the race of consumers nor sex or sexual orientation. How they will determine the race of individuals is yet to be seen, but perhaps a re-writing of FCRA or other governing laws would be a means to do so.

  61. > More research disputes the conventional wisdom that the internet has led to people only consuming news that conforms to their biases.

    Captain Obvious is once again stating what every thinking person has already realized.

    When you see a news article that appears to be objectively written, from a respected source, merely reporting some facts without shade of bias, but that story looks bad for Trump, then I wonder to myself “How will the Trump supporters explain this one away?” The rational response is “oh, that doesn’t look good, let me look into it.” But one never gets that. In the past year all one has gotten has been knee jerk denials, fragile-culture style external blaming, and even cases of “so what”. But mostly howls of “fake news”.

    Example. Republicans tried to invalidate 127,000 ballots in Harris County. It’s a legal dispute. The Republicans lost after Republican judges ruled against them. The response? Fake news! Democrat plot! Shift the target! But this isn’t fake news, it’s an actual court decision, as official as you can get, with all the sources agreeing. A difference in interpretation is fine, but outrage of this level over actual facts is not a sign of rationality. They are living in a bubble and reality has become their enemy as it’s poking at their bubble.

    Holy crap, I live in the bluest of the blue state, California, and many Republicans here genuinely think Trump can take California. How opaque does one’s bubble have to be not to see the reality?

    p.s. Trump might still win, it depends on the swing states. But all the shenanigans going on the save red and blue states is just silly. Vote tampering in California (huh), attempts to disqualify legit voters in Texas (huh), blocking the turnpikes in New Jersey (huh), etc. What color is the sky in their universe?

    1. You mean like the news that every news organization (except Fox) and social medial company pre-emptively censored the Biden computer?

      1. Hush he’s emoting.

    2. What color is the sky in their universe?

      Says the guy that doesn’t understand that polling places not following the letter of the law is exactly the sort of thing that *should* be brought before the courts.

      1. I don’t see where Brandybuck said anything about not bringing disputes over polling place law before the courts. He wrote, “The Republicans lost after Republican judges ruled against them. The response? Fake news! Democrat plot! Shift the target! But this isn’t fake news, it’s an actual court decision, as official as you can get, with all the sources agreeing.”

    3. Yes 4 I repeat 4 Republicans filed a suit in one county in Texas. The problem isn’t the facts but the way the facts are reported. None of the headlines mention it is 4 out of 6 million people in the county that are filing the suit. Very few mention that the Republican Court threw out the suit. None of them mention Trump likely had absolutely nothing to do with it. But it is being passed around on Fb and presented as if our Governor himself or the official GOP of Texas are behind the lawsuit. That is the problem. 4 people acting badly being reported as the entire Republican party is that way. But when 4 people cause a riot at a protest then it is mostly peaceful and it was only a few people that aren’t really apart of the cause being the problem. That is why Republicans continue to dismiss the media. It isn’t always the facts but the double standard of reporting.

      1. Conservatives, always playing the victim. CNN, as liberal-leaning as you can get, mentions that the Texas Supreme Court are all Republicans in their coverage:

        https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/31/politics/texas-ballots-drive-thru-voting-hearing-monday/index.html

        “Supporters of drive-thru voting also point to how the Texas Supreme Court, which is comprised solely of Republicans, already ruled in favor of it last week.”

        You are playing *exactly* the same game as liberals who try to dismiss riots as “mostly peaceful”. Take some responsibility for policing the behavior of your fellow partisans.

      2. “Republican court” is funny since it means the court is NOT ruling by law but how the judge feels….

        Trump won Texas by 800,000 votes in 2016.

  62. So according to ENB, whether it’s the right or the left that riots, it’s Trump’s fault. Maybe if the right did riot which I highly doubt, maybe there actually was voter fraud? Or if the left riots, maybe they are the violent authoritarians who are willing to result to violence if they don’t get their way?

    But no, that would go against what we’ve seen the past four years and likely longer that the left will refuse to accept the GOP candidate winning and that they might not be evil incarnate, thrusting the world into a fascistic patriarchy, white supremacism, or theocratic regime.

  63. Really tiresome and disheartening to keep reading Reason writers “explaining” that violent riots and vandalism are always caused by Trump and/or by out-of-control cops.

    You know, there actually are bad guys out there who live (or get paid) for wrecking other people’s stuff and causing chaos, whatever their motivation. Portland has proven that violence and vandalism are often self-motivated — they don’t need Trump or the cops to make them happen.

    When (and why) did Reason become the apologist for just plain random violence and vandalism?

    1. If you are destroying other people’s property or assaulting people, you are in the wrong, full stop. I am pretty sure that is fundamental to libertarian thought. I guess reason missed that memo or something.

    2. the mostly peaceful protesters in Portland seemed to remain rather boisterous even when the cops (first the Feds, then the Oregon State Police) went away and the DA didn’t prosecute them

  64. I see business owners and managers boarding up as a polling signal that they think Trump will win. There is no point boarding up if they think Biden will win.

    1. We’ve had a couple of local businesses put up signs in the last couple months saying, “Closed for the season, see you Nov. 4th.” If it’s some sort of dog whistle in support of Biden, I can’t figure it out.

    2. If Biden wins, there will still be riots, for the same reason Philly is sacked when the Eagles win the SuperBowl. I mean, those Molotov cocktails won’t throw themselves, and the shelf life of gasoline is for crap these days.

  65. With questions lingering over whether President Donald Trump will declare victory before all ballots are counted

    And no questions over the several times Harris has already declared herself the Presidential candidate, and whether Biden/Harris will declare victory before all ballots are counted?

    The TDS is strong with this one.

    1. It’s amazing to watch people, like ENB, who’ve pitched a four-year long tantrum, speculate about the peaceful transfer of power.

  66. As an Iowan, I was called by a pollster yesterday and asked if I would vote for Trump on Tuesday. I answered “Probably not” and they hung up right away. They did not let me say “I was going in today and vote for him.” Out of 5 calls from pollsters this year, only once did I convey the truth to them. Usually I answered yes or no to multiple choice questions and they would soon give up.

  67. “Americans have disagreed passionately about candidates and even presidential election results before without taking to the streets and burning shit down.”

    One side is already burning stuff down, and threatening worse if Trump is reelected.

    “If victory is called for Joe Biden, there could be a lot of folks genuinely convinced that the results are a sham—and ready to do something about it.”

    Not likely. What little violence that has occurred this year on the far right has been in response to much more widespread violence from the far left. If Biden wins and the leftists are truly peaceful, the right wingers will stand down, secure in the knowledge that Biden/Harris will mess things up by 2022, and that a 5-4 edge in the Supreme Court will stop the worst of their plans (assuming the Senate remains Republican, which is very, very likely).

    “But with anger over Trump as intense as it is, even a seemingly legitimate victory would be likely to produce suspicion and some protests.”

    SOME protests? Suspicion? There will be a nationwide riot the likes of which we have never seen in our lifetimes.

  68. But “the first imperative of civil resistance is nonviolence—that is, maintaining the discipline not to strike out or strike back,” Judith Shulevitz reminds people at The Atlantic.

    How long until she is canceled for her racist screed?

  69. It would be wise to prepare for riots after the election. Now I think that those riots will be more in democrat controlled states and cities just as it was during the BLM riots because of the death of George Floyd. This is because these are the areas which told the police to stand down and not to interfere. However there is a caveat that may come into play here. That being that these politicians have seen what their orders have caused and are now afraid that they will be kicked out out at the next election if they allow riots and looting and killings and burning of buildings as they did during George Floyd riots.
    Now I don’t think that the riots will happen on election night because the votes may take days to weeks to be counted and reported. If it appears now that Trump will pull another win as he did in 2016 after all of the polling indicated that Biden would be the winner the riots will make the BLM riots look like a Sunday School picnic.

    1. Riots after people have cast votes don’t matter. People will forget about them before the next election comes around.

  70. A reminder to every business, organization or app I have ever used: stay in scope. I didn’t need to know how you were handling the ‘rona. I don’t need you to remind me to vote.

    1. I didn’t need to know how you were handling the ‘rona.

      It was good to learn that Dominos was regularly molesting pizzas before delivery and, thanks to COVID, they decided to stop.

  71. “On the one hand, all the boarded-up businesses and at-the-ready riot cops seem a bit overwrought.”

    What spaceship did she just beam down from? She thinks riots are implausible when we’ve already seen plenty?

  72. Across the country, there are growing concerns that the bitterness and animosity over the presidential election will not end when the polls close Tuesday night. From coast to coast, cities are preparing for possible protests, civil unrest and violence regardless of the election’s outcome.
    https://www.gwinnettdivorce.com/

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