Amy Coney Barrett

If Amy Coney Barrett Has To Apologize for Saying Sexual 'Preference,' Does Joe Biden?

Sens. Mazie Hirono and Cory Booker both criticized the Supreme Court nominee for saying "preference" instead of "orientation."

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At Tuesday's confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D–Calif.) asked Barrett if she would roll back protections for LGBT citizens. Barrett responded that she "never discriminated on the basis of sexual preference and would not discriminate on the basis of sexual preference."

For many progressives, this was a bad answer. That's because the term sexual preference is apparently offensive: The preferred term is sexual orientation.

"Barrett's use of 'sexual preference' alarmed many viewers, myself included, for good reason," wrote Slate's Mark Joseph Stern. "The archaic phrase suggests that sexuality is a choice, that gay and bisexual people simply prefer to partner with people of the same sex—a preference that, with enough willpower, can be changed."

Barrett's use of preference didn't just irk Slate magazine writers and the wokest of the woke on Twitter: Two Democratic senators—Hawaii's Mazie Hirono and New Jersey's Cory Booker—brought this up with her during their remarks. Hirono accused Barrett of using "outdated and offensive" terminology. Echoing the progressive parlance, Booker said Barrett had implied that being gay was not an immutable characteristic. The nominee repeatedly apologized, saying that this was not her intention.

Here's a question: If it's always and automatically wrong to use the term sexual preference, should former Vice President Joe Biden apologize for his outdated and offensive terminology? During a roundtable discussion in May, the Democratic Party's presidential candidate promised to "rebuild the backbone of this country, the middle class, but this time bring everybody along regardless of color, sexual preference, their backgrounds." Was Biden implying that he thinks being gay is a choice, or was he just using a term that is obviously, in many contexts, a synonym for sexual orientation, just as Barrett was?

It's true that the American Psychological Association has expressed a preference (ha!) for the term sexual orientation, believing that it does not imply "choice" in the same way that preference does. But of course, the word orientation can also express a choice: One's political orientation is a choice. Similarly, a preference isn't always a choice—an aversion to some foods and a preference for others can be quite the immutable characteristic!

So while it's conceivably the case that the term sexual preference can be deployed in a delegitimizing way, repeatedly pressing Barrett on her choice of words here was a cheap shot. By all means, senators should grill her on her judicial philosophy and how she will apply it to LGBT legal issues, but they don't need to play language police with respect to terms that are plainly synonymous.

NEXT: No, Amy Coney Barrett Isn't Part of a 'Dark Money' Plot To Overturn Gay Marriage and Abortion

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  1. I wish she hadn’t apologized. She should have just ignored that.

    1. Points to Robert Barnes being correct that she is an establishment/corporate nominee who will always go with the status-quo.

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    2. “Speaking at a 2013 law forum, Barrett said that the “fundamental element” of Roe—that a woman can choose to have an abortion—will likely stay intact, and that the question now is whether or not those procedures “will be publicly or privately funded.””Click here

    3. Never apologize to the scum.

    4. Decent manners would be to say “I apologize, I did not realize that would offend you”. That would be the end of the discussion. However, this isn’t in good faith and EVERYONE knows it.

      I would say allow the own goal by the Democrats. The majority of people recall how sexual preference was the official term until very recently and everyone not trying to be outraged is feeling that this is getting ridiculous. The more they push for this absurdity and can’t raise any rational objections, then the less legitimate they seem.

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      2. I prefer women, and cis-women at that. I can’t help it. I emerged from the womb that way.

    5. I wish she had told them to fuck off.

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  2. A better apology would be “I don’t care what those fag queers do”

      1. Caw caw!

        1. That doesn’t even make sense Dee. I’m sorry you’re to dumb to realize when you sound like a squawking bird.

        2. This is how you know R Mac is pissing Mike off.

    1. Speechless. This ‘fag queer’ thinks you owe someone a big apology. I’ll wait.

      1. Why would an odd shaped cigarette need an apology? I’ll wait….

        1. Not an odd shaped cigarette, unusual offal meatballs.

          1. Not unusual offal meatballs, an odd bundle of sticks.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(unit)

            1. Not an odd bundle of sticks, a poorly built Soviet fighter jet.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-15

              1. Not a fighter jet, suburban motorcycle riders.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipDmsxQVxIM

                1. …and I just thought it meant men who play in other men’s (or boy’s) feces.

      2. The proper response is “I’m sorry Senator Booker, I should have said ‘Fiercely heterosexual preference'”.

      3. “Speechless”

        And yet, you spoke. It’s a miracle!

        1. Caw caw!

          1. Fuck off.

            1. Nobody bit regarding his silly acronym nickname, so he’s desperate. But just like the left can’t meme, he’s bad at this too.

      4. Like I said I don’t care what you do

      5. Username still doesn’t check out.

      6. Why? You think conservatives are insane and/or evil, Kuckland may be conservative. Ergo, you have already unpersoned Kuckland -there’s nobody remaining to apologize to you. Speechless, as an aside, means incapable of speech, not moaning on about ‘big apologies.’

  3. “For many progressives, this was a bad answer. That’s because the term sexual preference is apparently offensive: The preferred term is sexual orientation.”

    They’re just making things up at this point.

    Remember folks, never apologize for phony offenses. If pressed the correct response is always “Fuck off”.

    1. How do we know this is a non scandal? Biden from May of this year used the same term.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kRcuXFDMx3U

      Nobody cared

      Likewise Booker called sexuality immutable which must be a shock to the gender fluid people out there.

    2. Actually, in this setting, the correct response is “with all due respect, fuck off”.

    3. “The archaic phrase suggests that sexuality is a choice, that gay and bisexual people simply prefer to partner with people of the same sex—a preference that, with enough willpower, can be changed.”
      Hardly an “archaic” term, and google n-gram has the data to show that usage of the phrase ‘sexual preference’ began only in the 1980’s, and has been relatively steady in its frequency. ‘Sexual orientation’ took off at about the same time, and while more prevalent, has been showing a marked drop off for the past two decades.

  4. I thought liberals were supposed to for human freedom? What about the BQ types who do have a preference, and not just an orientation? Are they denied human agency? Must everyone be a victim?

    1. Check Mr. So Five Minutes Ago.

    2. Would paying attention to them right this second provide an opportunity to scold a conservative nominee? No? Well, then under the bus they go!

    3. You obviously have not been paying attention for the past thirty years.

  5. One response is to ask Booker why he’s still in the closet.

    Also if you need more evidence of low IQ on the left, Hirono is your best bet.

    1. She really is just awful.

    2. “I asked each nominee these two questions, and I will ask them of you,” said Hirono. “Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?”

      “No, Senator Hirono,” Barrett replied.

      Hirono continued the interrogation by asking if Barrett had been ever legally involved as a party in a case concerning sexual assault.

      “Have you ever faced discipline or entered into a settlement related to this kind of conduct?” Hirono asked.

      “No, senator,” Barrett replied again.

      https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/13/sen-mazie-hirono-pauses-obamacare-rant-to-ask-amy-coney-barrett-if-shes-a-rapist/

      1. My questions would be:
        How many walkers have you killed?
        How many people have you killed?
        Why?
        The answers to these are far more telling

        1. Rick Grimes would have made an interesting senator.

    3. Rosario Dawson is one helluva beard!

      https://preview.tinyurl.com/BooksBeard

    4. She claimed that women don’t lie about being raped, and he was one of many (including Kamala Harris) who were dumb enough to fall for the Jussie Smollett hoax.

  6. “The archaic phrase suggests that sexuality is a choice, that gay and bisexual people simply prefer to partner with people of the same sex—a preference that, with enough willpower, can be changed.”

    Definition of Preference by Merriam-Webster
    http://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › preference
    1 : a choosing of or special liking for one person or thing rather than another or others Buyers are showing a preference for small cars. 2 : the power or chance to choose

    I don’t know, Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern, sounds empowering to me. And a necessary part of being a bisexual, because if you are attracted to both sexes, would you not have to prefer one over the other at times? Your preference gives you that power to choose.
    The alarming element is that others have so much power over one, that one cannot discern their individual preference for oneself except with an extreme dose of will. That alarms me!

    Or is that just a cover for the groupspeak, and GaySplaining(see how that feels?). Using the accepted and only the accepted vernacular.

    Seems to me one can orient themselves in a direction and then prefer to travel that path at the same time. Or not.

  7. “By all means, senators should grill [Amy Coney Barrett] on her judicial philosophy and how she will apply it to LGBT legal issues[.]”

    This is not appropriate either.

    Prodding a Supreme Court nominee with generalized (and, frankly, asinine) inquires concerning how they may or may not rule in hypothetical situations is not intended to achieve anything other than to further politicize and delegitimize an official that should be staying as neutral on policy matters as possible.

    To endorse such questions is to endorse the deleterious progressive worldview in which members of the Supreme Court are positioned as politically aligned super legislators.

    1. Exactly. Judges who pre-judge hypothetical (and vague) cases are not to be trusted.

  8. Why? Its both.

    And the idea that orientation isn’t somewhat malleable . . . ? Have they never heard of ‘prison gay’? Or ‘LUG’ – Lesbian until graduation?

    Its amazing what is a choice right up until its politically convenient for it to be an innate characteristic.

    1. “Born this way” but “Gender is a choice”.

      1. Why do you give a fuck? Do you even comprehend that individual freedom means sometimes you might have to cope with things that don’t align with your limited worldview.

        Libertarians are absolute shit at freedom.

    2. I was watching Netflix’s Umbrella Academy, which I enjoyed, to find Ellen Page’s character [SPOILER ALERT] dating a man in the first season and a woman in the second. I notice this kind of progressive sexual fluidity in many shows these days and I wonder if it isn’t Hollywood’s assertion now that sexuality is, in fact, a choice.

      1. Yeah, I liked how that flipped suddenly without any commentary.

        It turned out I was married to a lesbian for five years and… yeah, it didn’t just flip over one day sans introspection.

      2. That’s just because the idea of Ellen Page with another women is HAWT. That is all. That’s all Hollywood cares about.

        1. Really? I find her both plain and unlikeable in general. She is a marginally ok actress as long as she is playing similarly unlikeable characters.

          1. She looks like a friend of mine when he was a teenager.
            I’d play beer pong with her and maybe go riding dirt bikes, but no thanks to anything sexy.

            1. I could get into watching her go down on a hotter chick.

              1. You guys never saw EP as “Babe Ruthless,” in “Whip it?” A real cutie.

        2. Seriously? She was somewhat cute about 10 years ago, but she looks like a used-up rag with a receding hairline now.

        3. Yah naw.

    3. My sexual orientation is heterosexual. My sexual preference is toward the opposite sex.

    4. My sexual preference involves Emily Ratjkowksi and Jessica Alba.

    5. Protected class status is at least somewhat legally dependent in the trait being immutable. This may be coming more from a legal consideration and a dim bulb Senator running with it to silly places.

  9. Biden doesn’t know what day it is. I think we should expect a little more out of our Supreme Court justices.

      1. Yeah, it would be terrible if that Mormon won. Y’know, the governor.

  10. C mon man It’s not like she said she survived the lockdown because black women were stocking groceries somewhere. That would be really offensive and probably ruin here career. Wait What? So that’s not offensive? Shit I just can’t keep up anymore.

    1. Dems get a pass on bigotry. Didn’t you know.

      Absolutely everyone putting on a show about being offended is dishonest.

  11. I came here to ask if we can get some tips on where Libertarians and the progressive left can intersect and ally up to defeat Donald Trump.

    1. Well we’d have to get the neocons onboard.

    2. By all means, let’s defeat Hitler by aiding Stalin. Never mind who is the bigger murderer.

      1. More like defeat Vinny Gambini by aiding Abaddon.

        1. Abandon? One of the Knights of Hell?

  12. > The archaic phrase suggests that sexuality is a choice…

    It’s not an archaic phrase when it’s used everywhere, including government forms. The Left needs to STOP changing the mandatory forms of address every year. Sheesh.

    My *preference* is for females. A very strong preference, but it’s still a preference, as I am apparently capable of sex with males, provided I get a paper bag and drugs first. Considering all the gay men out there who have fathered children, it’s a preference to them too.

    1. Is a lesbian or straight man who’s been raped by a man bisexual? That’s neither a preference or an orientation.

      1. “Man” is an orientation, lesbian is not. Its chiseled in stone from the moment of conception.

      2. Wow, you’re right.
        So what’s your point, because that’s got nothing to do with what Brandybuck was saying.

    2. It’s not an archaic phrase

      This. ‘Archaic’ applies to Shakespeare, not to common language still in use.

  13. repeatedly pressing Barrett on her choice of words here was a cheap shot.

    No shit.

    1. And completely expected.

  14. “The archaic phrase suggests that sexuality is a choice, that gay and bisexual people simply prefer to partner with people of the same sex—a preference that, with enough willpower, can be changed.”

    So explain gender reassignment to me one more time; I still don’t get it.

    1. reorientation?

  15. Preferences are involuntary. You can’t will yourself out of liking A better than B and into liking B better than A, no matter what A and B are. You can still choose either one, and that choice is likely price-sensitive.

    1. Nailed it.

      1. He. He-he. You said “nailed”.

        1. [Beavis voice]

  16. I’m glad she apologizzed. First decent words that have ever come out her mouth in her entire life I’m guessing. Better late than never I suppose. I hope she crashes and burns, this illegal supreme court nomination is a farce to anyone with two (or three) brain cells to rub together.

    1. How is this illegal nomination…it is following the rules.

      1. Buttplug lies a lot and is pretty fuzzy on the whole concept of legality.
        His novel interpretation is basically that if he doesn’t like it, it’s illegal.

        1. He also likes to watch child rape videos.

    2. Illegal – basic liberal understanding of not actually understanding.

      But we’re smarter than the peons…

    3. Keep rubbing your two or three brain cells together. What could it hurt? If you get a spark you could always start your own chapter of DENSA.

      1. Poe’s Law is a bitch. I can’t tell if it’s a serious idiot or a satirical troll.

    4. ‘First decent words that have ever come out her mouth in her entire life I’m guessing.’ This irrational nonsense and the ignorant and stupid claim about the nomination being illegal coupled with an ad hominem attack against those who don’t share your view, and you have the temerity to suggest anyone owes you an apology?

  17. “The nominee repeatedly apologized”

    Fuck you, you cringing coward.

  18. Welcome to the Bolshevik Party aka Democratic Party…this is a long time a coming…once the ethnic’s were kicked out of the party (Irish, Italian and so on), tribalism and cultural marxists and “academics” and wall street pedos took over this was bound to happen. the Dems of the parents focused on helping poor folks make it to the middle class..now its about serving the small wealthy crony socialists running the media, wall street, academia and of course so called “tech” firms…

    Abortion…guess what wokes..not in the Constitution, not mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, not in the Bill of Rights…the Feds have no authority to legalize or ban it..its reserved to the States..absent an amendment…period..end of story NYC bolsheviks…

  19. Jesus Christ, this whole idea that you should be careful lest your words offend someone, when you know goddamn well they’re just looking for something to be offended by and they can claim to be offended by anything. She’s giving them what they want, why should she be apologizing? And I gotta tell you, I’ll admit I’m not the hippest guy in the world, but I have never heard this shit about being offended by persuasion/orientation – and isn’t it a thought crime to be using “orient” in any case? – so I can’t imagine that there’s more than a handful of people who give a shit either way. And come to think of it, if you’re that goddamn neurotic about language, you need to be in the fucking loony bin anyway.

  20. Does Joe Biden threaten to turn taxpaying gay Americans back into second-class citizens? No? Then we don’t give a shit how he bumblefucks his way through a sentence. Still confused or do you get it?

    1. Consider yourself lucky that you weren’t forced into gender reassignment therapy when you were a kid because of your “preferences”.

      1. Whose basic rights do you want to take away so you don’t have to feel mildly uncomfortable during a passing thought, again?

        1. We get it you hate white people.

    2. And just when did ACB threaten to turn taxpaying gay Americans back into second-class citizens, you shrieking, mendacious demagogue.

      1. Best not take the risk putting religious zealots on the Supreme Court, just in case. Plenty of nonzealots out there.

        1. Best not take the risk
          So you didn’t have anything and just made it all up.

          Anyway, far more zealots these days are low-information, fedora-tipping atheists like you. So I want you to take the following advice to heart:
          Fuck you, you demagogic piece of shit. You’re a liar and a psychopath and one of the evilest people I’ve had the misfortune to interact with. How you can look in the mirror without vomiting amazes me.

          1. C’mon folks, don’t engage with Tony. I know I’m bad about it myself, but maybe if we all just ignore him, he’ll go away.

          2. “So you didn’t have anything and just made it all up.”

            You should talk about it the way the MSM does about Trump: “Tony, without evidence, claims that Barrett is threatening to turn taxpaying gay Americans back into second-class citizens.”

          3. To be fair to that moron Tony, I didn’t see any actual advice in that statement

          4. I’m sorry, should I not be concerned about my rights being taken away by the very people who have been rending their underpanties about the threat my rights supposedly pose to wholesome families for decades?

            I mean you idiots get to whine about your right to own a fucking arsenal day in and day out. Of course nothing I care about has to do with blowing other people’s heads off, but I’m the psycho.

    3. Does Joe Biden threaten to turn taxpaying gay Americans back into second-class citizens?

      Say hi to Peter Pan for me. He’d still in FantasyLand too, right?

      What a loon.

      1. “Does Joe Biden threaten to turn taxpaying gay Americans back into second-class citizens?”

        Yes. He has an idea for a device that does so through gamma ray bombardment.

        He also shits his diapers.

    4. Has Trump turned them into second class citizens? Because I don’t remember that being part of his platform.

      1. The concentration camps are a secret.

        1. Trump actually has concentration camps, and guess what, almost nobody here cares because they actually agree that the people being put in the concentration camps are actually undesirables.

          1. The camps you’re referring to were created by Obama and you didn’t care a bit. I think it’s great Tony’s here to remind us all these outrages are fake – determined solely by which party is being blamed.

            It’s also interesting to note what he’s advocating. People in these camps broke the law. If we can’t apprehend people who break the law then laws are irrelevant. This is an admission Tony – and the entire left – supports open borders.

            1. Did you care when Obama supposedly did it too? Or do you consistently not care?

              Oh, second paragraph. Concentration camps are okay if people break the law, and presumably all laws are just. Even ones that criminalize children for fleeing violence and terror. Libertarianism!

              1. Did you care when Obama supposedly did it too? Or do you consistently not care?

                I don’t care. People who break the law are detained, but that doesn’t surprise or bother adults.

                Concentration camps are okay if people break the law, and presumably all laws are just.

                It’s revealing you have to pretend they’re Nazi death camps for your position to be validated.

                Even ones that criminalize children

                This has to meaning, children aren’t criminalized. It’s just emotional signaling by people who can’t deal with reality.

    5. Neither does Trump, and you know it, you mendacious lefturd whore.

      -jcr

      1. Yes, Republicans lost on this issue, but they’re about to get another seat on the Supreme Court. Trump has no principles, of course, so who gives a shit how he feels? Are you ashamed about your long advocacy for keeping gays second-class and have amended your ways, or do you just take me for an idiot with no memory whatsoever?

        1. your long advocacy for keeping gays second-class

          WTF are you talking about? I’ve been a Libertarian since the Ed Clark campaign, and the LP is the first party that ever advocated marriage equality in the USA.

          do you just take me for an idiot with no memory whatsoever?

          You’re obviously an idiot. As for your memory, who knows?

          -jcr

    6. Yes. Yes he does.

      1. Or carpet muncher. Covers most bases.

    7. Citations lacking, but strong on assertions.

  21. The archaic phrase suggests that sexuality is a choice, that gay and bisexual people simply prefer to partner with people of the same sex—a preference that, with enough willpower, can be changed.”

    Of course the phrase doesn’t mean this at all, proggies just pretend it does so they can try to convince their naïve acolytes to wet their panties. Their hysteria over this non-issue does reveal they have nothing substantive to whine about.

  22. Pretty obvious and weak attempt at a gotcha. Moving on…

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  24. The only issue here with one’s sexual practices is when they get to the margins: a horny 18-year-old has a same-sex encounter because he’s seeking SEX and he is not attracting opposite sex. Suddenly, on account of seeking sexual gratification, he is now GAY. But he still really really REALLY wants to have opposite-sex and form a relationship therefrom (or the other way around). This is where things get murky, where one’s “sexual identity” is really ONE WAY, but it seems another based on some fleeting encounter, even encounters.

    Rich Sheppard, Jersey City

  25. no man or women must be discriminated on the bases of gender and racism is really the biggest flaw in our social and political system.

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  26. Now, if possible, she should use “Hispanic” instead of “Latinx”, just to crank the Dems up some more.

  27. Maizie asked: “since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?”

    I’m not a huge supporter of Barrett, but my opinion of her would have risen immensely if she had replied: “Of course not, you snotty bitch. I fucking dare you to ask Joe Biden the same question.”

    -jcr

    1. Of course, Maise’s caving to such advances from her senator inoyue got her where she is today.

  28. Whatever a person “prefers” is their “preference”. That includes sex “preferences” or toppings on a pizza.

  29. When will they put forward a Blasey-type witness to claim that suppressed memories have emerged of a drunken high school party in which someone who looked something like Barrett made unwanted lesbian advances.

    1. Go on…..

      1. …okay, there might have been some other things……it’s all such a foggy cocaine-and-booze misremembrance….

        Leave it to Feinstein and Harris to educe steamy details from the witness that appeal to the prurient interest of the viewers.

  30. Corey Booker is a cuck.

    1. Cuck? Someone slept with his wife?

      He is a self-professed vegan, and I say we send him back to Vega. Once we let Vegans in, can Denebian slime devils be far behind?

  31. It’s long past time to stop seeing offensive intent where there is none. Sometimes it just linguistic momentum.

  32. “Sexual Preference” is offensive?

    I did not realize a new edition of the Newspeak Dictionary was released.

    I do not care what the so called progressive social liberals declare is offensive or archaic. They are ridiculous totalitarian thought police and they need to be ignored and ridiculed for their absurd language diktats.

    1. Want to have some fun? Watch an SJW brat have a conniption when you say “black” instead of Jesse Jackson’s “african american” neologism. They’ll get all huffy, and then you can remind them that there was a massive effort in the 60s and 70s to tell everyone that “black is beautiful”, and that only evil racists would consider “black” a pejorative.

      -jcr

      1. We do it just to fuck with you.

        1. Sure you do, snowflake.

          -jcr

  33. Yes; God forbid we use a synonym that hints at sex acts as being a choice, that implies too much Individual responsibility. Let’s find another term for rape while we’re at it; I’m not responsible for my orientation of having sex with women. And pro-choice? Clearly too much implied responsibility. Abortion-oriented is much better.

  34. Barrett misspoke.
    She meant to declare that all members of the LGBT community are ungodly abominations.

  35. Hirono is a fraud. She has never asked an honest question in a hearing, nor does she have the courtesy to allow the person “questioned” to respond. She is the the worst kind of demagogue.

  36. But wait. The transgender lobby blasts gay people for having “genital preferences” when, say, an actual lesbian doesn’t want to sleep with a man in a dress and his “girl penis.” So which is it? Preferences or orientations? Sounds like the left wants to have it both ways.

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  38. The closing sentence is wrong. They have to play language police, can’t take away their only tool.

  39. Hirono has the I.Q. of a potato.

  40. So, if I prefer chocolate over vanilla ice cream, then that means I pull a Buridan’s ass bootstrap and actively choose to like it more?

    Progressive elites are addicted to the sense of moral superiority that comes with being offended on behalf of other people, who most likely don’t give a shit, and calling out a normie for failing to keep up with the current “preferred” LGBTQIA+ terminology is a cheap high.

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