Coronavirus

Wearing Masks Is an Effective Way to Control the COVID-19 Pandemic, Says New Study

"My mask protects you, your mask protects me"

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Population-wide use of facemasks could effectively control the coronavirus pandemic by substantially reducing the chances that an infected wearer will pass along his viruses to another person, according to a new study in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society  A.

A team of British researchers reached this conclusion using computer modeling to evaluate several plausible scenarios of how wearing facemasks could affect epidemic trends. "Our approach is to accept that, with a new disease, it is impossible to get accurate experimental evidence for potential control interventions," they argue, "but that this problem can be approached by using mathematical modeling tools to provide a framework to aid rational decision-making."

The researchers take into account such variables as how infectious the coronavirus is, the proportion of the population that wears masks, and how effective masks are at containing exhaled and excluding inhaled virus-laden aerosol droplets. They also analyze how wearing facemasks during lockdowns affect epidemic trends.

In one scenario, the researchers find that the spread of the virus can be dramatically lowered and the epidemic controlled if everybody routinely wore facemasks in public that were only 50 percent effective. Universal masking pushes the basic reproduction or 'R' number—that is the number of people an infected individual passes the virus onto—to below 1.0, which is the level required for the pandemic to slow. It turns out that many homemade masks are even more effective than that. In fact, an earlier study reports that often they are nearly as efficient as standard surgical masks at blocking respiratory droplets.

"In all modeling scenarios, routine facemask use by 50 percent or more of the population reduced COVID-19 spread to an R less than 1.0, flattening future disease waves and allowing less-stringent lockdowns," notes the press release accompanying the study. The study also found that people wearing masks whenever they are in public is twice as effective at reducing 'R' than if they wait to don masks only after symptoms appear.

As the pandemic was taking off my Reason colleague Jacob Sullum pointed out that the public received a lot of contradictory advice about mask-wearing. The new study bolsters the case for the routine use of masks in public.

The study authors acknowledge that there may some cultural reluctance to wear facemasks in Western societies because it may be taken as implying that the wearer considers others as a threat. In fact, the researchers point out to the contrary that using a mask more effectually protects others from the wearer's microbes. "My facemask protects you, your facemask protects me," is the apt slogan that the researchers use to summarize the epidemiological benefits of wearing masks.

The researchers also suggest that mask-wearing would also offer another benefit by reinforcing the message that it is necessary to keep to a safe distance from one another. As it happens, a new study by an Italian researcher reported that that is exactly what happens. He rigged both maskless and masked folks with proximity sensors and measured more than 12,000 encounters with other people on sidewalks and in stores to find out how they reacted to people wearing masks. The result is that people did not consistently maintain social distancing with the maskless but did with mask wearers.

In the press release, lead author Cambridge University epidemiological modeler Richard Stutt concluded, "If widespread facemask use by the public is combined with physical distancing and some lockdown, it may offer an acceptable way of managing the pandemic and re-opening economic activity long before there is a working vaccine."

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  1. If widespread facemask use by the public is combined with physical distancing and some lockdown, it may offer an acceptable way of managing the pandemic and re-opening economic activity long before there is a working vaccine.”

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    2. Geeze! Why is Reason pimping out the command and control culture of mask-wearing over a few British modelers?
      Masks are disgusting and inhumane, and certainly whatever little might be gained from wearing masks, is overcome with the disadvantages of wearing it.
      Did Reason get paid for writing this?

      1. Masks d0o keep your spittum in your masks. Read the headline!! Is it too hard to comprehend??

        This has nothing to do with the size of the virus as it is riding on your big gobby mucus and spittle…..these do stay in your mask, protecting others.

        Some people are just too dense to absorb counter intuitive information.

  2. Modeling is not science. Science is making a hypothesis and testing it against evidence. Every actual empirical study of masks has indicated that they provide little to no help.

    I can almost guarantee, Mr Bailey, that these studies are WILDLY overestimating a mask’s ability to slow a disease. I just spent 20 minutes waiting on my lunch at a local food court. Every person walking in had a mask. 90% of those people used their mask in a way that rendered any protection moot, including: Touching their faces multiple times, then touching surfaces; taking the mask off briefly; wearing the mask with huge gaps; wearing the mask below the nose.

    If those masks did anything to stop the spread, it was reducing that spread by 1% not anywhere near 50%.

    1. A model is the hypothesis or theory to be tested, so it’s part of science, but it’s not the end of the story.

      1. To be more granular, a model is an attempt to convert a theory to a prediction tool. Whether it actually performs that conversion accurately is another matter.

      2. A model doesnt test a hypothesis since the environment of the model is based on assumptions. Without a way to validate a model with a real world testable experiment, the model is only as good as the assumptions it is built upon.

        There is a reason they have the collider running particles in circles instead of just relying on models of particle physics.

        1. Models are not based on assumptions, model test assumptions. Models are often based on facts. What models do is allow you to draw facts out of small experiments into larger applications. We can test the effectiveness of masks for a small group. Models can then tell us what happens if a large population uses the masks. You are correct that when possible we go back and check the model with real data.

          1. “Models are not based on assumptions, model test assumptions. ”

            No. Models do not test assumptions. If you assume masks prevent the spread of a disease, the model doesn’t TEST that assumption. No matter what you plug into that model, you have not tested whether or not masks prevent the spread of the disease.

            The only way to prove or disprove your assumption is to perform a study of ACTUAL evidence. Either look at a population, or conduct a controlled experiment.

            Once a model is VALIDATED by such science, the model can be used to make predictions in the future. So near as we can tell, the actual science right now disagrees with this model, and it should not be pushed as “science”.

    2. I agree with you that modeling is not science. And very much like the US’ move from human intelligence to signals intelligence a few decades ago, reliance on it at the expense of the basic footwork of public health makes us stupider not smarter.

      Disagree on masks though. Your reasons are all about why masks won’t work well with Americans. Which is true but not because we will wear them wrong or something. All that stuff you mention is because we just don’t like wearing masks. And in a few weeks or certainly by the end of the summer – we will just stop wearing them. In which case, they won’t work anymore. Even now as you say people are simply pretending to wear them.

      Your whole anecdote is like saying shoes don’t work to protect your feet from thorns because people are wearing shoes on their hands. Well maybe – but if that is what’s happening, the conclusion is that people are stupid not that shoes don’t work.

      1. Fuck you.
        Go crawl in a hole.

      2. Masks don’t work now and never have. They can’t protect against something that’s as small as a virus. It goes right the fuck through the mask, and that includes N95 masks, which are not made to block viruses.

        1. The virus doesn’t take a shower and clean itself off before it leaves your body. It comes out along with and usually attached to a big glob of snot or mucus. Indeed it is that big glob of snot or mucus – not the virus – that your body is actually trying to forcefully expel when you cough or sneeze. The virus is merely ‘hitching a ride’.

          And yes a cloth mask works as well as tissue paper in ‘stopping that’. Or are you one of those folks who doesn’t use tissue paper when you sneeze or cough. Probably don’t wash your hands either.

          1. Fuck you.
            Go crawl in a hole.

    3. It’s weird to watch people denying the manifest fact that a mask limits the spread of germs from the masked to the unmasked.

      It’s one of those “walls don’t work” deals.

      1. Also weird to watch Ron reporting on this.

        Next Article: Study Finds that Water is Wet! Who Knew?

        1. wait….. who likes saying it is wet? i have to know so i know if it is the truth or a nasty lie.

      2. “It’s weird to watch people denying the manifest fact that a mask limits the spread of germs from the masked to the unmasked.”

        Also weird is those claiming some affinity to libertarian views claiming any relevance to your comment.
        Sarc or stupidity?

      3. Masks can limit the spread of germs. If they are used properly.

        Used improperly (like constantly touching/adjusting them and then touching other objects without first washing your hands) can actually hasten the spread of germs.

      4. Masks are to viruses what chain link fences are to mosquitos. They don’t fucking work. N95 masks don’t work on viruses. They don’t work on TB bacteria, which is larger than any virus. What the fuck is wrong with you, anyway, that you’re worried about *this* goddamned virus when you’ve never given two shits about all the others? This one is the same damned thing. It’s got a mortality rate of .26% at last count, and that’s including the over-65 group that’s most susceptible to it. For everyone else the risk is well below a quarter of a percent. This particular coronavirus is no more dangerous than seasonal flu, and since viruses evolve to become *less* lethal so they don’t kill off all their hosts, by this time next year it will probably be even less dangerous than the flu. Up to 90% of the people who get KungFlu never even know they had it. Oooh, scary.

        1. So wrong, read the thread and learn, masks do keep your spittumin your mask to a very high degree. Who cares if you touch your face, if you are not infected , no harm. If you are infected, no additional harm.
          Stop creating a liberty straw man when a little inconvenience goes a long way.

          1. Because people touch other things, and realize that the ‘masks’ being discussed aren’t N-95 but are usually one-ply cheap ass bandanna cloth. Cloth that isn’t even soaked, which notably doesn’t do that well even vs. large particles like soot and smoke.

            The masks are being pushed because it’s the equivalent of being searched by the TSA. It’s security theater and gives the impression that something is being done when nothing is really being done.

    4. Then why do doctors and nurses ever wear masks?

      1. You’re not likely to run across anyone with his chest spread open at Walmart.

      2. When a patient lands in a trauma bay the doctors and nurses put on masks, face shields, caps, gloves, gowns, and theater boots. They don’t put a mask on the patient. When an ME does an autopsy he wears the same gear, and it’s not for the stiff’s benefit. The doctors and nurses wear the protective gear not to protect you or themselves from viruses, but to protect themselves from liquids that are splashed, gushed, squirted, flung, and dripped during procedures. Patients going to scheduled surgery get prophylactic antibiotics–not anti-virals–and for emergent surgeries they’re given antiobiotics post-op, and all of them get prepped with chlorheptidine or betadine before the surgeon makes the first cut. That’s it. That’s patient protection. They don’t get masks.

        And if you’re looking to doctors and nurses for guidance, look somewhere else: These are the same retards who routinely walk in and out of hospitals in their scrubs and street shoes, clomp around city streets in those same clothes, and then walk back in to patient care areas without changing. They don’t give a rat’s ass about germs, and their sudden fetish for masks is hypocritical, retarded virtue theater: They’re still plodding around outdoors in the same scrubs they wear in the hospital, but THEY FUCKING CARE ABOUT YOU because they’re wearing a mask while they do it.

        1. Excellent posts – I just walked past a cluster of health care workers outside a major Chicago hospital, They were out on a smoke break, in their scrubs, masks around their necks (which, I presume, means they do not intend to replace them any time soon).

          All the data I could find confirms that this virus passes easily through cloth and N95 masks, even if worn properly, although there may be a very minor barrier effect. Any type of misplacement provides an easy exit for the virus and coughing and sneezing often displaces the masks.

          Don’t get me started on modeling… you would think researchers would be too embarrassed to admit they practice this pseudo-science.

        2. This is half right. They also wear the masks so they don’t get their filthy germs inside your body should they happen to sneeze while operating on you. It protects both of you, although as noted the cocktail of drugs they pump into you probably protects the patient a hell of a lot more than the mask.

          But yeah, the point sort of remains that it’s more for their safety than yours given that you are almost certainly the one that’s sick or injured when you seek medical help.

          Now if we could just get them to stop leaving surgical equipment inside of people after they’re done cutting folks open we’d be set…

    5. Are these the same models and the same British researchers who predicted the Covid armageddon? If there is anything we know, we know that models are not reliable. At some point, we are going to have to put down the Magic 8 Ball and just get on with it. If we aren’t exposed, we won’d develop herd immunity. Wear a mask when you visit grandma, but otherwise, the efficacy is largely guesswork.

    6. WRONG!!!
      Your statements about masks are in error.

      If a masked person is infected, the mask keeps the virus in the spittle in the mask. So what if the person touches the mask, they are already infected.

      Likewise if a person is not infected, it does not hurt to touch.

      You ignore the success of millions of Asian countries, because your news feed does not tell you what they do not want you to know, and assume that they are all ignorant fools when they all mask up??
      Masking and social distancing, which masks make possible, is the only thing we should be doing, the lockdowns were wrong and wasteful!


      1. If a masked person is infected, the mask keeps the virus in the spittle in the mask. So what if the person touches the mask, they are already infected.

        It doesn’t, but even if it did you might note the infected person touches other things after their mask. This isn’t the miracle you’re looking for.

        Also, the idea that the virus is only attached to ‘spittle’ is hilarious. If that’s how it worked, N-95 would never have been developed since a bandanna would do the job. And even high grade masks leak all kinds of shit you wouldn’t want to catch.

        Idiots.

  3. “A team of British researchers reached this conclusion using computer modeling . . . ”

    Really??!!! Another damn British computer model? Hell no.
    Sorry folks, science says C19 can beat anything but an N95 or better; properly fitted and leak checked.
    The “cloth face coverings” (CDC words, not mine; specifically NOT called “masks”) are a farce.
    Both the CDC and WHO have ‘revised’ their guidance based mostly on political correctness and fear of funding cute.

    The CDC CURRENTLY refuses to say masks help or hinder with the real flu, so I have suspicions about the changing magic Communist Chinese Virus.

    Every time I got out, I see people with “cloth face coverings” hanging around their necks, over just the mouth, pulling the mask off and putting it back on etc.
    It is street theater, pure and simple. The “cloth face covering” is just the left’s latest symbol of oppression.

    For those who can’t be bothered to search, for the real flu, the gospel according to CDC;
    Unvaccinated Asymptomatic Persons, Including Those at High Risk for Influenza Complications
    No recommendation can be made at this time for mask use in the community by asymptomatic persons, including those at high risk for complications, to prevent exposure to influenza viruses

    1. Damn, fine typo/auto-correct:
      and fear of funding cute.
      should be
      and fear of funding cuts.

    2. Yeah I stopped reading after that statement. But I clicked the article, so mission accomplished Ron.

      1. I just like seeing Ron get destroyed in the comments

    3. No recommendation can be made at this time for mask use in the community by asymptomatic persons, including those at high risk for complications, to prevent exposure to influenza viruses

      It’s almost like you didn’t read the damned article.

      reports that often they are nearly as efficient as standard surgical masks at blocking respiratory droplets

      The CDC says “masks can’t prevent you from getting the flu if someone coughs on you”. It doesn’t address the person doing the coughing. If that jackhole wears the mask, you have a much lower chance of getting sick.

      1. Or maybe I did read the article, and specifically pointed out the differences between the ‘real’ flu and the Communist Chinese Virus.

    4. “A team of British researchers reached this conclusion using computer modeling . . . ”

      People who use models as the conclusion without it being tested are not doing science. The model is the hypothesis, not the conclusion.

    5. It is street theater, pure and simple.
      I only wear a mask where mandated. I put it on when I enter a store and take it off when I leave. I only do that much because the business has posted a sign requiring it.
      Even if I wore it properly at all times, I doubt it would matter. I probably had the covid back in February when an unusual, lingering cough passed through the office.

    6. Yeah, I wear a mask in public because I want to symbolize oppression to everyone.

      Libertarians are paranoid whack jobs.

      1. Lefties are fucking ignoramuses, fucking ignoramus.

      2. You wear a mask in public because you can’t get your virtue through legitimate means, like by actually having any. It’s easier to wear a mask and let people think you’re decent than to actually do the mental heavy lifting to be decent. Either that or you’re just a scientifically-illiterate retard.

        1. For what it is worth, I find the practice (by others) of wearing masks in the outdoors highly useful. I don’t have to talk to them to find out they are stupid.

    7. These “studies” are complete bullshit. Nobody gives a fuck except those with a vested interest in the new normal.

  4. All models are wrong, some are useful. – Box

    This paper is completely predicated on a non validated model. The model reproduces the assumptions built into the models themselves. It is not based off of real world or isolated testing.

    Some of the papers I cross references are some of the papers that have been highly questioned such as:

    3. van Doremalen N et al. 2020 Aerosol and surface stability of SARS-CoV-2 as compared with SARS-CoV-1. N. Engl. J. Med. 382, 1564–1567. (doi:10.1056/NEJMc2004973)

    The Aerosol studies initially cast aspirations of finite molecules distributing widely and quickly and were lately rebutted by other studies post analysis. Yet these models widely rely on the early aerosol studies.

    In fact a lot of the papers cited are from early in the pandemic when the models were predicting 2 million deaths in the US.

    But of course, since the assumptions built into these models are wide spread, easily aerosolized, spread of Covid… of course facemasks will work. That is the assumption they built the models on.

    1. Here is even the WaPo contradicting the base assumptions of the study based on newer data.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/29/studies-leave-question-airborne-coronavirus-transmission-unanswered/

    2. Yup, it’s a model. And the paper you cited is basically from the same date. The science is still evolving. It’s going to keep evolving. “The science is settled” is a political statement, or at best a statement of probabilities.

    3. All models are wrong, some are useful. – Box

      In God we trust, all others must bring data. – Deming

  5. I have Trigeminal Neuralgia.

    I won’t wear a mask.

    1. I have respect for other people and their choices and expect them to extend the same to me.

      I won’t wear a mask.

      1. Sevo, let me ask you this because I happen to share your outlook on respecting other people and choices. If you had symptoms (fever, cough, runny nose)…would you then wear a mask when going out in public? Not a facetious question.

        I think part of this mask thing is cultural. Masks are much more commonly worn in Asia. There, it is about a) pollution, b) pollution, and c) not wanting to catch a viral disease. Given the environment there, it makes sense for them.

        1. “Sevo, let me ask you this because I happen to share your outlook on respecting other people and choices. If you had symptoms (fever, cough, runny nose)…would you then wear a mask when going out in public? Not a facetious question.”
          When I have something which might be contagious, I try not to go out in public at all, and certainly do not, oh, go the the dentist or a bar, etc.
          If going out was required, I’d have a mask in my pocket and wear it when near other people.

          “I think part of this mask thing is cultural. Masks are much more commonly worn in Asia. There, it is about a) pollution, b) pollution, and c) not wanting to catch a viral disease. Given the environment there, it makes sense for them.”
          Agreed.

  6. “Cambridge University epidemiological modeler Richard Stutt concluded,”

    Was it yesterday someone linked to a study of epidemiologists and a third said they wouldnt leave their house under any conditions? Kind of demonstrates a base irrational fear.

    1. It demonstrates complete ignorance and retardation.

  7. “Our approach is to accept that, with a new disease, it is impossible to get accurate experimental evidence for potential control interventions…”

    So we’ll substitute inaccurate assumptions, generate some models that provide the desired results and call it good.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  8. the problem with models is the variables. In math you can have one known and one variable on one side of the equation and an outcome on the other but without a known outcome you can never determine the variable hence these models are wrong, unless you insert the outcome you want, they picked their results to solve the variables and these problems have not just one variable but millions of variables so you would have to run every variable to every variable for an almost infinite number of outcomes. this is not like flying to the moon where we know where we are and where it is and their movements.
    I recently read an article where a couple of scientist proved that a certain thing was an unsolvable, I think they may be wrong on that particular subject but that may apply to this subject.
    the modeling is wrong and biased to the answer they want for either political or pride reason to support their initial failures

  9. sophistry [ sof-uh-stree ] (noun, plural soph·ist·ries) — a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning.

  10. “stay in your burquas, sheep!” finds new study

  11. There is no way in hell a piece of cotton cloth is going to prevent a sub micron sized virus from passing right through, particularly when under high pressure, as in sneezing or coughing.

    1. No, it won’t. But when it’s cover in saliva or snot (or whatever else you’ve got in your mouth) as it exits your mouth or nose, it’s larger and stickier, and will likely stick to the mask.

      1. Here’s a better solution: if you’re sick, stay the fuck home. If you’re not sick, then fuck off with this microbe-incubating mass of fabric I’m supposed to keep next to my face.

        Ground truth, if that’s not enough for you, then you can stay home too. God knows, there’s enough delivery services these days to take care of necessities. Feel free to Lysol-bomb the shit out of whatever packages you receive. I’ll cheer you on.

        Just don’t expect us to share anymore in this delusion.

        1. Yes, if people are sick, they should stay home. That’s what I tell the people I supervise.

          Cloth masks can be washed, paper thrown out.

          I’m not worried about me, I’m worried about us in general. An odd thing for a hardcore libertarian to say, but liberty in a society is not the same as freedom on a one-man island.

          But do as you will, on your conscience be it if you get sick and then discover you’ve been spreading it around more than you needed to.

          1. “I’m not worried about me, I’m worried about us in general.” “I’m better than you because I care more.” If you cared about “us in general” you’d be adamant about people *not* having to wear masks. You’re a hardcore libertarian like Trump’s a hardcore libertarian. Liberty in society *isn’t* the same as on a one-man island, because we have to be free *from each other.* That means nobody gets to tell anyone else what the fuck to wear.

      2. “No, it won’t. But when it’s cover in saliva or snot (or whatever else you’ve got in your mouth) as it exits your mouth or nose, it’s larger and stickier, and will likely stick to the mask.”

        Quite possibly true. Definitely irrelevant.

        1. How is it irrelevant? If it’s stuck to the mask, it’s not drifting around the room for you to inhale.

          1. GroundTruth
            June.11.2020 at 3:24 pm
            “How is it irrelevant?..”

            Because YOU are responsible for your health, not me. Are you really this stupid?
            Scared? Crawl in a hole and stay there. Forever, for all I care; your health is your concern.

      3. Congratulations. You just compromised your own immune system, which evolved without a giant flap over your nose and mouth for a fucking reason.

  12. So no actual data, just a bunch of computer model results.

    At risk of getting on my soap box (again), computer models do not generate data. Computer models cannot ever confirm a hypothesis. Computer models are merely mathematical restatements of your original hypothesis.

    Computer models can be used to confirm that your hypothesis is internally consistent. That’s valuable in it’s own right. But you don’t actually know anything about the truth of the hypothesis until you compare your model predictions to actual, measured, external results.

    1. Or as a teacher told me a long time ago:
      Computers are faster than people, but they are also dumb. They only do what people tell them to do. If you program a computer so that 2 + 2 = 2, it won’t know that is wrong. It will output whatever you tell it to.
      I’ve seen plenty of errors caused by faulty assumptions and edge cases.

  13. I disagree with the study, but with neither of Mr. Bailey’s choice of the photograph to accompany this piece, nor his choice in gin. ‘Junipero’ is a lovely beverage, and pegs the needle for juniper-tasting strong gin. Sipsmith’s ‘VJOP’ is good too, albeit 50 percent again more expensive.

  14. LOL. I rolled over a nail and went to a shop today to get a patch. It’s basically outside and today it was bright, sunny, and 90 degrees. There was a big sign on the side of the garage, “No mask. No service.” My guess is they’re just making it look like they are “law” abiding because when I went inside to pay the dude wasn’t wearing a mask.

  15. Tough crowd here tonight.

    Look at it this way, even if it only helps a bit, that’s something. It costs almost nothing, won’t hurt you, and doesn’t infringe on your freedom of movement, association, etc, so the value (effect divided by cost) can be pretty high. And, it doesn’t have to be perfect (unlike TSA screening) to be effective. This one is about mass numbers, not tight little systems.

    Personally, I’ll be wearing one. If you sneeze / cough on me without one, then I’m more likely to think you’re lazy slob rather than a libertarian.

    1. As a libertarian I respect your right to walk around wearing a silly costume.

    2. It costs us our freedom, and costs us what little trust was left in our rulers. It may kill the many that have health issues that prevent use of a mask.
      And the “cloth face coverings”, like the proverbial lunch, are not free.

      1. If you’ve got a health issue, then don’t wear one (or don’t go out). The idea isn’t about perfection, it’s about stacking the deck.

        Not free, but pretty low cost.

        1. Now do burkas.

        2. “Not free, but pretty low cost.”

          Fuck off, slaver.

    3. What other laws do you want to enforce on others because it doesnt really hurt.

      Masks are cost free on your world? There is no restriction on oxygen into the bloodstream? Because I can cite quite a few studies on hypoxia in nurses leading to migraines.

      It almost seems like you have a complete ignorance to reality, but want to be protected by forcing others to do what you want for your appearance of safety.

      1. What other laws do you want to enforce on others because it doesnt really hurt.
        Contact tracing. Location tracking. Warrantless wiretaps. Encryption backdoors. What is the problem if you aren’t doing anything wrong?

      2. Who said anything about laws or force? I’m suggesting encouragement.

        1. “Who said anything about laws or force? I’m suggesting encouragement.”

          You.
          Are.
          Full.
          Of.
          Shit.

    4. Nearly all of which is irrelevant.
      You have no right to tell me what to do.
      End of discussion.

    5. It doesn’t help a single fucking bit. Masks don’t work against viruses. Even if they did, no one has any right to force other people to wear a bullshit symbol of “caring,” which is all the masks are. They’re facile a way for assholes to feel better about themselves, to gain a fraudulent sense of virtue they can’t gain legitimately. No decent human being fantasizes about telling other people what to fucking wear. The ones who do are sociopaths.

  16. Computer models you say? Hmmm. I really gotta admire your relentless pursuit of inevitable disappointment Ron. I mean having spent your entire career here hawking computer models not one of which was worth a shit. This one asks a simple yes or no question and no one will ever know what the correct answer is. There’s really no way you can lose this time.

    1. Ron loses by existing.
      He’s a tranny (as in transhumanist).
      He literally hates what he is

  17. In Japan, where I live, everybody wears masks and wears them properly. Despite high levels of tourism from China, an earlier start of reported cases, high population density, a very soft lockdown, and the world’s oldest demographic, the country has only suffered 919 COVID-19-related deaths in a population more than a third that of the US, where the toll is 114,000. There may be other factors, but mask discipline has to be a big one. I don’t feel my liberties being trampled upon when I venture out in my mask; quite to the contrary, I am happy to be free to continue interacting with society and, thereby, helping to ensure that local businesses don’t fail and that the national debt doesn’t spiral any higher than necessary.

    1. Japan has no Cuomo. He alone accounts for a large part of the difference in deaths.

    2. ” I don’t feel my liberties being trampled upon when I venture out in my mask;”

      That’s cool and all but what gives you a right to dictate morality to others?

      1. Hey, if keefos doesn’t mind, it has to be good. It is like all the people who don’t feel infringed when the government prohibits speech they don’t approve of.

    3. Japan also produces a lot more hentai than the United States; you think that might be it? ????

      1. That, and all the vending machines full of used panties that all the men are wearing as masks now…

    4. Asians wear masks when they’re sick. We didn’t, though we are now.

      These cultures also tolerate a degree of government intrusion and loss of personal privacy we’d find anathema.

      I reiterate: if you are sick, or feel sick? Stay home. Stop expecting healthy people to join you. Asymptomatic infectious transmission has not been demonstrated. All of the examples we thought we had? Are being debunked?

      Should you visit your 75 and older relatives? Maybe not w/o some decontamination. But everyone else needs to get back to doing what we were previously doing.

      20 years ago, this would have just been a really nasty viral pneumonia season. One for the record books, but not something to nuke several trillions in economic value over.

      1. “I reiterate: if you are sick, or feel sick? Stay home…”

        Further, if you are, like JFree, a fucking coward worried about catching the flu, crawl in a hole and stay there until your Mommy says the boogy man is gone.
        And if you are, like JFree a fucking *lefty* coward, who hopes to tell me what to do and when, get screwed with a rusty, running, chain saw.

      2. “I don’t feel my liberties being trampled upon when I venture out in my mask; quite to the contrary,…”

        Keefos,

        Actual liberty loving Americans largely share your opinion.

        I for one can share that wearing a mask due to the risk of this coronavirus is no infringement on my liberty, nor is wearing one when I cast my own bullets due to the risk of lead, nor is wearing one when I work on or fly my airplane due to risk of dust and chemicals or hypoxia. I understand the risks and mitigate them.

        The anti-mask issue is, here, an issue of cultists and the Trump cult of personality. A fatter dumber American version of Aleph / Aum Shinrikyo is an, only, very slightly unfair comparison; and it’ll very from moment to moment as to rather it is unfair to Trumpkins or to Aleph followers.

        1. BigGiveNotBigGov
          June.10.2020 at 10:37 pm
          “I for one can share that wearing a mask due to the risk of this coronavirus is no infringement on my liberty,..”

          Since you are a fucking lefty ignoramus, that is not at all surprising.
          You are a K-8 government school grad, right?

        2. If you were an actual “liberty-loving American” you’d resent being infantalized like a pussy retard, instead of welcoming it.

        3. “I for one can share that wearing a mask due to the risk of this coronavirus is no infringement on my liberty”

          But REQUIRING you NOT to wear a mask would be the same infringement on your liberty as REQUIRING me TO wear a mask is on mine.
          In theory, choice is the base of Libertarian politics.

    5. “I’m a good little prole who’s happy to do whatever my betters tell me to do. Who am I to think? Who am I to examine facts and know that masks do fuck-all against viruses? I wasn’t going to use any freedom anyway, so I don’t see why other people are so resentful over losing theirs.” Fuck you, your tribal fetishizing, and your mask.

  18. I’m convinced that Ron doesn’t know what models are supposed to accomplish nor, more importantly, how models are built. But he’s no different than most people who have never built a model. We used to have a saying where I worked: if it comes from a software program and the results are printed on computer paper no one will dispute the results.

    1. Bailey thinks “model” means something other than “completely making shit up to advance an agenda.”

  19. Reason is firmly in the pocket of Big Mask now. They’re a tool of the mask making industry. I wouldn’t be surprised if Koch Industries is trying to corner mask manufacturing.

  20. There have been so many studies out in the last few months with contradicting stories. I guess when in doubt always error on the side of caution.

    1. Err on the side of caution is a tie breaker, not a base. Risk management factors in possible damage, probability of damage, and opportunity cost. The government only cared about the first and completely ignored the last. The opportunity cost wasn’t a “we don’t gain something”. It was the known harm caused by shutting down the economy.

      1. “…The opportunity cost wasn’t a “we don’t gain something”. It was the known harm caused by shutting down the economy…”

        And ignored at the time.
        And when there is a possible accounting, it will be swept under the nearest rug, since which politico (or scumbag coward like JFree) wants to be responsible for the resulting poverty and deaths?
        If RB is serious regarding ‘science’ (and I really don’t doubt it), we’ll begin to see reports regarding the health/economic results of the lock-down.

    2. Why don’t you try being right on the side of knowledge, instead? Masks don’t work on viruses. Viruses are far too small to be stopped even by N95 masks. N95 masks don’t even stop TB bacteria, which are larger than viruses. Those are the facts. Now, instead of being mistaken, why don’t you come down on the side of freedom?

  21. Facts not inlcuded in the goal seeked computer model:
    N95 filtration size 100-1000 nm
    Cornavirus 10-20 nm

    1. The models are shit. But what are the size of the fomites the viral particles are attached to?

  22. “…, your mask protects me”

    Your health is your concern.
    Scared? Stay inside until the boogy man leaves.

  23. You cannot create monsters and tell people how to defend against those monsters indefinitely. At some point they have to see actual evidence of the monster, or else they will resort to doing what they want.

    1. WOLF!! WOLF!! WOLF!! WOLF!! WOLF!! WOLF!! WOLF!! WOLF!!

      Hey, where is everybody? this time there really is a wolf, and he only has me to eat.

  24. Think whatever you like, but your health and safety is your problem. Stay inside if you’re paranoid about dying from a virus that mostly kills people in nursing homes. If I have to go to a nursing home for some reason, I’ll wear a mask, otherwise, I’m pretty confident that both I and you will be just fine if I don’t.

  25. The wanton or ignorant or, most fittingly, wantonly ignorant lack of mask wearing by many in the resort town where I have a cabin was, yesterday, a strong advertisement for misanthropy.

    Perhaps, a Darwinian thinning of these morons would not be an entirely bad thing.

    1. Fuck off, slaver.
      Worried about your health? Crawl in the nearest hole and stay there until you die; the world will be better and your family will be proud.
      To repeat, if you are, like JFree a fucking *lefty* coward, who hopes to tell me what to do and when, get screwed with a rusty, running, chain saw.

    2. The Darwinian thinning would be of cowards like you, since your survival apparently depends upon other people wearing masks

      1. Very good point.
        NBNBG represents exactly those who would perish since ‘THE GOVERNMENT DIDN’T SAVE ME!’
        Note the asshole claims to dislike ‘big government’, except when it might relieve him/her of responsibility for his/her health!
        Pretty sure NBNBG has a more correct handle as “Hypocrite”.

        1. Inbred, idiot, “hold-my-beer” risk takers earn far more Darwin Award nominations; than do intelligent, risk managing auto racers or aerobatic pilots. Idiocy does not equal courage, nor is it an evolutionary benefit.

          Idiocy, also, invites government intrusiveness and is among the poorest of arguments against it.

          1. BigGiveNotBigGov
            June.10.2020 at 11:01 pm
            Fucking lefty central planners are quite capable of killing hundreds of millions by their idiocy, you fucking piece of lefty shit.
            Stuff a running, rusty chainsaw up your ass; make your family proud and the world a better and smarter place.

          2. BTW, let me iterate:
            Pretty sure NBNBG has a more correct handle as “Hypocrite”.
            I’m guessing we’re dealing with a millennial who somehow thinks that his/her brand of lefty is really, sort of, maybe, like libertarianism.
            And then finds that, instead, she/he is nothing other than a run-of-the-mill lefty.
            Tell us, oh, lefty piece of shit, how you are different than a run-of-the-mill lefty.

            1. Still waiting, shitstain.

            2. A day later and STILL waiting, shitstain.

          3. Still waiting for you to somehow claim you are other than a fucking lefty ignoramus

    3. Masks don’t work on viruses, you fucking retard, unless they’re negative pressure respirators. The kinds of masks you fucking idiots wear are like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence. But keep signaling your Darwinian lack of fitness.

  26. The girl in the blue tank top has decent tits.

    That is all.

    1. Indeed. If it weren’t for the stock photo I would never had even clicked on this garbage article.

    2. It would be easier to judge if she didn’t cover them with a mask.

    3. AND she is flashing the white power sign. Left handed!
      I bet she is something else – – – – – – –

  27. There’s 1 thing that everybody is missing: Bailey, study authors, commenters here, Fauci, everybody. As with all things harmful to us, it’s the dose not the poison. Suck in a virus or 2, you’ll never notice. Suck in a million and you may be dead in a couple of weeks. We don’t actually know the threshold, and it’s probably different for everybody. A mask probably traps some of the viruses flying in or out of your gaping mouth. If it traps enough to reduce your exposure below your dosing threshold, then on balance it helps. Since we don’t know the threshold, we cannot model the benefit. Period. I’d wager that it’s a plus in some settings and worthless in others.

    1. Fuck you. Cough into your sleeve like someone who wasn’t raised by coyotes. By your logic people should be walking around in hazmat suits, just in fucking case.

    2. On the other hand, we also know that you are supposed to replace a mask when it becomes damp for exhalations, because the absolute best environment for germs, bacteria, and viruses is a warm moist one. I have yet to see a civilian carrying additional masks; or for that matter see very any wearing a “cloth face covering” properly.
      So street theater, replacing free choice.

    3. Older people and those with bad immune systems should probably wear masks. People who are sneezing and coughing and have a fever should just stay the f*~k home. Everyone else should wash there hands and get back to work.

  28. Wearing Masks Is an Effective Way to Control the COVID-19 Pandemic, Says New Study
    Maybe, a proper mask, worn properly, but that is not what we are seeing. I see masks on foreheads, under chins, and on bearded faces. I can’t post pictures here, but if you look at this link you will see what I mean.
    Wearing Masks Is an Effective Way to Control the COVID-19 Pandemic, Says New Study
    https://www.activistpost.com/2020/06/covid-19-of-masks-social-distancing-and-more.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ActivistPost+%28Activist+Post%29

  29. Stay home without mask and chat on sex duesseldorf!

  30. The study seems to confirm the obvious. Look at it like sneezing into your sleeve rather than the air, a simple act decreases the droplets you expel into the air. Certainly wearing a mask will do the same. What is interesting is the idea that wearing the mask increases our perception of social distancing. This is important as it shows wearing a mask as a twofer, reduces droplets, improves social distancing.

    1. “…This is important as it shows wearing a mask as a twofer, reduces droplets, improves social distancing…”

      Important to lefty assholes.
      Crawl in a hole and wait until Mommy says the boogy man is gone.

  31. Recent study claims that viral load is at its peak just at the onset of symptoms. So yeah, wearing a mask is probably a good idea. Without one, by the time you are in bed or in the hospital, you’ve already spread the virus to everyone you are near.

    1. Wearing a mask is retarded. Unless you’re wearing a negative pressure respirator you’re not doing jack shit to contain viruses. They’re far too small to be stopped by any other kind of mask.

  32. “Not only am I not wearing a mask, I’m going out and shoot my rifle down the street, and everyone should respect my rights by getting out of the way. And if anyone get’s hit, it’s their fault for not being careful enough.”

    Sound familiar?

    1. Yes, it does.
      People have been dragging that strawman all over.
      Are you offering sarc, or you proposing the same idiotic claim?

  33. Are these the same “British researchers” who told us that a billion people would die from the virus?

    The Brits’ favorite national pastime seems to be fucking with the United States by constantly giving us an endless supply of false information. They’re still bitter and resentful about that while “being displaced as the world’s pre-eminent global power” thing.

    That’s why they’re “Perfidious Albion”; because they’re the most untrustworthy motherfuckers in the world.

  34. Computer modeling is not research.

    It is speculation.

  35. So now computer modeling is a scientific study. We have entered the realm of the absurd.

    1. Bailey knows better, this article is pure mendacity on his part.

  36. i see a whole lot of people fighting suggestions about what you should do. here is the beauty…… do what you want to. the study says you get a R0 factor below 1 if about half of people do it. you don’t want to believe it? fine. don’t wear a mask. if a business requires masks and you don’t like it, shop elsewhere. science isn’t oppressive, it is when government starts mandating actions that you are being oppressed….. this is voluntary…..

  37. Modeling? Fuck this fucking shit. Masks don’t work on viruses any more than chain link fences work on mosquitos. These cunts are lying. Again. They’re transparently laying a foundation for at-whim lockdowns with their “some lockdown” shit. Masks collect and concentrate filth and they interfere with the body’s natural immune system. If putting something over your nose and mouth prevented disease transmission, human beings would have evolved with big flaps over their faces. The “study” doesn’t bolster jack shit because it’s just a fucking model. GIGO, and the garbage they put in guarantees that their political agenda will get a boost by the shit that comes out. What kind of irrational, ignorant cuntery is “My facemask protects you, your facemask protects me”? Masks protect the wearer, moron. That’s why MEs wear them for autopsies. That’s why trauma surgeons and nurses wear them in trauma bays and don’t put them on the goddamned patients. Bolster this, you scientific illiterate.

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  39. I’ll pass on studies from the UK related to the conronavirus, as their track record has not been great. (See the Imperial College of London’s study, which advocated for the lockdowns that decimated the economy and completely infringed upon our civil and economic liberties.) Moreover, how reliable are contemporaneous studies, anyway? I mean, weren’t medieval doctors quite convinced of the efficacy of plague doctor masks?

  40. OH goodie. another study

  41. Masks are effective in hiding facial features, thus encouraging criminals to think they will avoid identification. This helps spread rioting and looting. Without widespread use of masks, what would the rioters and looters be doing? Masks also encourage the formation of mobs, and mobs can lead to rioting and looting and other forms of social or antisocial activity. So really, no models are needed: just look at the abundant evidence of the efficacy of masks.

  42. It feels like gross journalistic malpractice to waste 500+ words extolling the virtues of mask-wearing without mentioning that most of the masks worn by Americans are one step up from worthless. Cloth masks are ineffective, yet our author would have us believe this study suggests they’re as good as an N-95.

    Bunk!

    The only thing rampant mask-wearing is doing is increasing the frequency of self-righteous virtue-signaling while simultaneously adding to our collective social anxiety (when did you last see a stranger or neighbor smile at you?)

  43. “He rigged both maskless and masked folks with proximity sensors and measured more than 12,000 encounters with other people on sidewalks and in stores to find out how they reacted to people wearing masks. The result is that people did not consistently maintain social distancing with the maskless but did with mask wearers.”

    I guarantee that effect will diminish with time. The effect might be fast away that the impact disappear in a few weeks.

    It’s occurring because the study is in a country (Italy) where people don’t normally wear masks. Seeing people wearing masks in public is unusual and a bit frightening, so people shy away. They get used to it, however, and it may not take very long for that to happen.

    1. Modify one variable, run the numbers, form a conclusion absent any allowance/correction for the confounders that modification may have triggered.
      Rating a “D” in 10th-grade science fair.

  44. ..sorry, not buying it. The studies were actually just mathmatical models that made a number of assumptions that are questionable. The WHO( perhaps a debatable resource but still) just announced that the virus is rarely spread by the assymptomatic, so that changes things, and secondly the kind of cloth masks that 90% of people wear, only stop the virus spread of sneezing and coughing. The very small particles that are emitted in speaking and breathing are not stopped by a bandana. If people who are sneezing and coughing just stay home…then infections will decrease dramatically.
    The “unknown sick” walking around infecting everyone is a trope that is being used to justify drastic measures that are worse than the disease.

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