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Idaho Woman Threatened With Jail Time for Holding 'Nonessential' Yard Sale

The local police department says "a garage sale/yard sale is not an essential business and should not be open for business."

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Christa Thompson was trying to clean out her late father-in-law's house when local police in Rathdrum, Idaho, charged her with a misdemeanor offense that carries a fine of up to $1,000 and the possibility of six months in jail.

The crime? Holding a yard sale.

"A garage sale/yard sale is not an essential business and should not be open for business," Rathdrum Police Chief Tomi McLean explained in a post on the department's official Facebook page. "This was a large non-essential yard sale that filled the entire front yard and spilled into the back yard as well."

Peter Thompson, Christa's husband, told the Coeur d'Alene Press that the family was sorting through his father's belongings—including piles of stuff recovered from a storage facility—when the police stopped by the previous weekend to issue a warning.

"They told us we couldn't have a yard sale, that it violated the governor's order. I asked them if we could sort some things out on the lawn, and if it was OK to sell a few things to some people," Thompson told the paper. "They said, 'Sure, as long as there's no signs or advertising or anything like that. So we didn't.'"

That was on April 10. McLean says her officers found a post on Craigslist announcing a yard sale. They returned to the scene of the sale on April 13 to issue a written warning about violating Gov. Brad Little's March 25 order telling all residents to stay home and closing nonessential businesses.

When officers returned again on April 17, McLean's Facebook post says, they found "a large quantity of items were still out in the front yard and sales transactions were occurring while police were present." That's when Thompson was charged with a crime. Under the terms of the governor's order, violations can be punished by $1,000 fines and up to six months in prison.

But the yard sale continued on Monday, according to the Bonner County Daily Bee. Christa Thompson told the newspaper she needed to finish selling her father-in-law's property in order to pay bills and buy groceries for her six kids. With another truckload of stuff from a storage unit just getting delivered the to home on Monday, she speculated that the sale could continue throughout the week, and said she is advising prospective buyers to keep their distance from one another.

The ongoing standoff between the Thompsons and the local police department is a perfect illustration of the limitations of stay-at-home orders meant to combat the spread of COVID-19. Encouraging people to limit their interactions and stay home whenever possible makes sense—is necessary, even—to slow the spread. But it is impossible to stop everything. Bills must be paid, the difficult task of cleaning out a deceased family member's home cannot be postponed indefinitely, and life (to some extent) must go on.

It's also true that you can't have a yard sale without willing buyers. Everyone involved was choosing to violate the governor's order. This should be a signal to policy makers that the status quo cannot be maintained. As I wrote several weeks ago, total shutdowns cannot be expected to last for weeks or months. An equilibrium will be found—either purposefully and orderly by official policy, or haphazardly when people simply can't take it anymore. We are now seeing that, in state capitals around the country and in Christa Thompson's father-in-law's front yard.

As for Thompson's potential legal jeopardy, a Boise-based attorney has already volunteered to defend her. Edward Dindinger told the Idaho Freedom Foundation, a free market think tank, that he doesn't believe the charges against Thompson will stand in court.

"The fact that officers of this department took the time to seek out and arbitrarily cite this individual," Dindinger said, "indicates to me the Rathdrum Police Department has far too much time on its hands and is perhaps itself 'non-essential.'"

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  1. A yard sale isn’t medically necessary or immediately needed, unlike abortions or lottery ticket sales.

    1. It’s amazing how many anti-abortionists cannot acknowledge the simple logic that an abortion delayed is an abortion denied. They do understand it; but they must pretend that’s not a factor so they can pretend to be outraged for other reasons.

      1. Don’t make the state force me to pay your mother child support payments.

      2. I mean, likewise, cancer screening delayed may be cancer screening denied, but they have no problem delaying that.

        I’m not particularly eager about any laws regarding abortion, but I find the hypocrisy of much of the pro-choice crowd pretty impressive.

      3. “an abortion delayed in an abortion denied”

        And certain businesses that remain closed too long will go out of business permanently. Apparently, they have to make sacrifices for the “common good,” but abortions must go on.

      4. cool now do chemo.

        1. Chemo treatments that are able to be postponed are being done so on a doctor’s advice, not government order.

      5. A sale delayed is a sale denied. A purchase delayed is a purchase denied. A contract delayed is a contract denied. Worship services delayed are worship services denied. Gun purchases delayed are gun purchases denied.

        All of those are just as true in varying amounts as it is true for abortions. Yes, some of those get denied via a delay. Shouldn’t things explicitly protected by the Bill of Rights take precedence over things that aren’t?

        1. None of you examples result in an 18 year liability or in painful and immediate deaths of trisomy 18 afflicted newborns. Not really much of a comparison, is it?

          1. There is this called adoption. Saying people shouldn’t have kids because they may get horrible illnesses and die is pretty stupid.

            1. Adoption will prevent a Trisomy 18 affected newborn from suffocating after birth?

              1. what percentage of myrdered children gave trisomy? Red herring.
                What percentage of infants with tricomy doe because of it? Red herring.

                friend of mine from years ago was tricomic. He was fully functional, except that the military rejected him on that basis. All that meant to him was that he didn’t have to go chace gooks in Nam. He thought it a great advantage.

                Red herring.

          2. >trisomy 18 afflicted newborns
            Life unworthy of life should be snuffed out. Well said!

            1. So letting an infant suffocate immediately after birth is somehow more moral than getting an abortion at week 13? Ok bud.

              1. No one is surprised that you missed the point.

                1. Then spell it out for me.

      6. When are you getting your abortions? 8 months and 29 days?

        1. You should see me try to decide between paper and plastic!

          1. I thought coathangers only came in plastic and metal…

            1. Some of them are wood.

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      8. I think they would find the idea that an abortion delayed is an abortion denied to be a plus.

  2. “The fact that officers of this department took the time to seek out and arbitrarily cite this individual,” Dindinger said, “indicates to me the Rathdrum Police Department has far too much time on its hands and is perhaps itself ‘non-essential.'”

    I like the way he thinks. He should consider running for DA as a libertarian.

    1. So he could lose the election?

  3. Staying home doesn’t make sense if it means you’re going to lose that home.

    1. You can always write in “Bernard Sanders” this November.

      1. No need. Just vote for Joe. Bernie will be the president of vice, and will have an amendment twenty-five certification in his pocket at the inauguration.
        Fun fact: If the dems can keep the house and get the senate when ol’ Joe wins, they can designate the DNC as the organization that is allowed to certify under the 25th amendment.

        – “or of such other body as Congress may by law provide” –

        “Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”

  4. We have way too many cops in this country.

    1. Imagine if there were no government police or prosecutors, that instead victims had to hire their own (probably handled by insurance companies, of course). No way to justify their employment by creating victimless crimes which can only be prosecuted by a government standing in as the representative of society which is harmed even when no single individual is harmed.

      Funny how a crime can hurt everyone without hurting anyone.

    2. We need to replace all cops with a blockchain.

      1. makes it easier to chain up the blockheads in blue government issued costumes.

  5. But it all was bullshit
    It was a goddamn joke

  6. I keep reading predictions that there will eventually be a left/right civil war over this and that the right has all the guns. But crap like this event lead me to believe that the cops ain’t going to be on the side of the right. Maybe your average proggie will cower in his basement when the shooting starts, but cops will follow orders and are pretty heavily armed.

    1. Plenty of lefties own guns.

      1. Yep. They lie about that too.

    2. Thats why you take the police stations first

      1. Simultaneous with the broadcast stations.
        (I guess the web pretty much messed that one up)

        1. Yep.
          Just look for the spot with all those giant satellite dishes on it

      2. It’ so funny watching you larpers do your thang.

    3. Most cops are cowards and aren’t interested in a fair fight, if you show up armed they want nothing to do with you. See the Bundys or that guy in Philly with 1 AR-15 that took an entire SWAT team 6 hours to deal with, or the entire VA gun rally going off without any arrests.

      Cops follow orders when they think nothing bad will happen to them for following orders. If they think those orders will get them shot at it’s an entirely different story. Never forget that their top priority is going home safely at night.

      1. You mean badges who get violent with old people and children who fail to immediately obey are cowards?

        I never!

        1. I know, quelle surprise.

          This always happens when people talk about the theoretical boogaloo, “bUt WhAt AbOuT tHe CoPs?” like the cops are some elite force to be dealt with. For the most part they’re a bunch of herbs looking to collect a pension, they want nothing to do with large scale gun violence and many of them are in no condition to impact that fight even if they wanted to due to lack of marksmanship skills and physical conditioning.

          1. They like the job because of the power. They can literally do anything they want because nobody will stop them, and if anyone tries they call up their buddies and start breaking heads. Organized violence against individuals will always triumph.

            Now if we peasants used organized violence I do believe the cops would turn tail and run. The last thing they want is a fair fight.

          2. I agree with this, “lack of marksmanship skills and physical conditioning.” except they are still 10x better off than your average militia bubba larper.

            1. Bubba doesn’t have much in the way of physical conditioning, I’ll give you that. I would wager that most of them are still better marksmen than your average cop though, a lot of that is just trigger time and lord knows Bubba gets a lot of that.

              1. If you’ve been in combat, you’d find out that physical conditioning is far more important than marginal improvements in marksmanship. You can’t shoot a target if you can’t carry your gun and gear within range of your target.

                1. True for standing armies in traditional conflicts. Rather less true for guerillas in urban environments.

                  Also, basically irrelevant when your opponents are not trained military but are police. See, for example, the performance of indigenous police in pretty much every theater of operations the US has engaged in since Korea.

                  1. Well I guess we’ll see each other on the field then. Or one of us will, anyway.

                  2. …and indig in every operation have been far fitter than current americans. Fatties do not make good guerillas. Goes double for fatties who have lived some of the easiest lives in history.

            2. . . .except that they really AREN’T. Most cops are terrible shots, while most people who spend their own money on guns tend to practice with them.

      2. Except for Gerald Goines in Houston. He seem to like a good gun fight and worked hard to set them up.

    4. Show me someone who depends upon a union for employment and I’ll show you a leftist.

      1. If you pay attention to game theory, then unions would most likely be much more important in a libertopia than they are today. All kinds of voluntary associations would become more important, from class actions to corporate co-op’s to charities.

        1. k, but unions wouldn’t have the force of government behind them the way they do now.

          1. Can you be more specific, like which government force they enjoy now compared to a libertarian version? I’m genuinely interested in how unions would look in a libertarian society.

            1. Unions would look much different. Instead of using the power of government to force membership, they would instead go to the public with campaigns claiming that union workers have a higher skill level (“We cost more, but we’re WORTH more!”). To make this work, they would provide training and certification (as some unions already do), and require periodic performance checks to maintain that certification.

              1. Couldn’t they just negotiate a contract with their employer that they will not use non union labor? They would have to win over a majority or critical mass of current employees to convince the employer of their terms.

    5. I don’t know why you would think the cops would ever be on any side other than the government’s. Their whole purpose is ‘enforcer of diktat’. Its the rare LEO agency that puts its foot down and says ‘no’ and only pushes back against a very tiny set of power grabs and only then because those particular instances will rile up the proles enough to threaten the LEO’s position. Ie, gun control.

      They’ve got no problem busting people for drugs, prostitution, letting your grass grow too long, etc.

      1. Their whole purpose is ‘enforcer of diktat’.

        Except when the diktat threatens their power or revenue.

    6. cops have to go home sometime and there is the opportunity and there are other opportunities when they are not home unless they want to take their kids to work with them. Not advocating but theorizing for a book

    7. Until they start not coming home at the end of their shifts….. because they were being idiots and got called on it

  7. Dindinger calling out the police is hilarious.

    1. Yup. Last month a couple million of them bought their very frist gun…. then got mad because the gun control laws they helped vote into placeprevented them taking their new gun home that day.
      Sowing and reaping.

  8. “Christa Thompson told the newspaper she needed to finish selling her father-in-law’s property in order to pay bills and buy groceries for her six kids.”

    Look, lady, we all have sob stories. Take the example of an “essential” enterprise – the media. Their reporters sometimes experience mean tweets from the public.

    1. Oh look! Another right wing incel hick is attacking the media because his Daddy Drumpf got butthurt. Sorry dumbass, but the freedom of the press shall NOT be infringed.

      1. You realize that freedom of the press isn’t a special privilege of the media, right? Its the right to print and publish things (IE, with a printing press) that applies to everyone. Essentially by telling this lady she is not allowed to post signs or advertise they are infringing on HER freedom of the press

        1. It’s been pretty interesting to watch Youtube’s (as a company) actions lately. If you’re a big MSM company, you get pushed on everyone and can report anything you want. If you’re small time like Tim Poole though, you aren’t allowed to report on certain things or else you get demonetized, even when the big boys get to. You don’t get recommended to people, and you have to play by all sorts of rules that MSNBC and CNN don’t have to. Example, Youtube says that reporting anything against the WHO’s policies is a violation of Youtube’s policies. The WHO was saying no-travel orders were a bad idea back in February when plenty of smarter people were saying otherwise.

      2. Sarc or stupidity?

        1. Take a guess. I’m waiting for Reason to have a #LibertarianMoment!

          1. Aren’t we all?

      3. A mean tweet is not an infringement.

        1. He’s attacking a free press! This is just like Hitler’s rise to power! Half of my family died in the drowning pools at Auschwitz! I won’t forget the Shoah and I will #Resist45

          1. If any of your family died at Auschwitz, it was probably falling out of a guard tower.

            Asshole.

          2. “…He’s attacking a free press!..”

            One more goddam troll account.

          3. A mean tweet is not an attack.

            1. Not according to WaPo or the New York Times. In fact, according to the Guardian, Trump is attacking the free press by raising his voice to a female reporter. This sexual assault would never occur with touchy (the good kind) Uncle Joe Biden as President.

              1. haha, not gonna lie you had me for a moment. XD

    2. Lock her up! Lock her up!

  9. At least they only jail-threatened her, not “tweet-threatened” her. The latter being the way that literal Nazis threaten their victims.

  10. Well this is quite enraging.

  11. If she would simply bribe her city council for a variance, she can have all the yard sales she wants.

  12. Everyone involved was choosing to violate the governor’s order.

    Here’s the thing – you guys (and everyone else) report on this stuff with the assumption that the governor’s ‘order’ is actually and order and that he has the legal authority to issue it.

    I have a couple problems with that.

    1. I don’t think a governor can order businesses closed and people to stay at home without also *formally* declaring a state of emergency and then assuming emergency powers granted to governors during those emergencies. I have yet to hear any reporting about a governor doing that. They certainly don’t have that authority normally – or else we would be hearing about states arbitrarily shutting down businesses all the time. If the governors really had this authority normally, there’d be a whole ‘governor’s task force for shutting shit down the he doesn’t like’ in every state.

    2. These orders don’t ever define what ‘non-essential’ is. You’d think there’d be a mention of how this is ‘void for vagueness’ problematic. An example of this is right in the article – the yard sale was supposed to be shut down for being ‘non-essential’ but when questioned the cops immediately backed down to ‘yeah, you can sell a few things but you can’t advertise’. That’s pretty blatant ‘we don’t know, we’re just following orders’ behavior.

    From what I’m seeing, these ‘orders’ are actually suggestions couched in the form of an order by a person who doesn’t know how to interact with people except in the form of a dominance play and doesn’t believe they have enough trust from the community that they can reason with them. Instead they’re playing parental ‘don’t question me, its for your own good’ bullshit.

    1. Legal analysis from half-educated, uninformed, anti-social slack-jaws is always a treat.

      1. Lame opinion from asshole bigot NWS.

    2. I’m convinced that most of these “orders” are illegal.

      Once a little time passes, I expect many lawsuits. I also expect courts to bend over backwards to shoehorn all this bullshit in to the “legal” category even if it means making law from the bench.

      But there are laws in some states that will make that more difficult. The KY constitution explicitly outlaws arbitrary governance. Picking and choosing what is and what is not “essential” is, by definition, arbitrary.

      1. Picking and choosing what is and what is not “essential” is, by definition, arbitrary.

        “Hmm. Let’s see what the Supreme Court has to say about that.”

    3. 1. Governor Newsom declared a state of emergency on 3/4. You can do a search for any other governor. They have all done so.

      2. Non Essential is a defined class of services, designated by the federal government.

      I highly recommend you read the actual orders that these governors are issuing. They largely answer these concerns you have.

      (And note, I think they are absolute bullshit. But they do have lawyers helping these governors.)

      1. 2. Non Essential is a defined class of services, designated by the federal government.

        Where?

        I highly recommend you read the actual orders that these governors are issuing. They largely answer these concerns you have.

        Not the one from Arizona. None of them have I seen where the governor’s authority to issue the order is spelled out.

        1. Unless the statute that gives the governor the authority to issue the order also requires that he refer to the statute within the text of the order, not seeing it spelled out in the order doesn’t mean the authority doesn’t exist.

    4. 100% agree

  13. “A garage sale/yard sale is not an essential business and should not be open for business,”

    “unlike the Governor of New York traveling hundreds of miles for a meeting that could be handled with a phone call.”

    1. A garage sale is not a business at all. Otherwise it would be the Department of Revenue flexing their authority.

  14. It’s nice to see Reason slowly move away from the gaslighting that this was all voluntary compliance. At least for one article.

    Now if some of the commenters can stop saying these actions are just “strong suggestions”.

  15. Not exactly a great example for libertarians.
    During a global pandemic of unknown lethality,
    Police: You are violating the governor’s order. Here is a verbal warning. Just a few people, no advertising? Oh, OK.
    Three days later
    Police: You advertised on Craigslist and now may have more than just a few people. Here is a written warning.
    Four days later
    Police: You have a yard full of people and enough to continue selling for a week? Here is your citation.

    Out of how many recent yard sales in Rathdrum, Idaho did police “arbitrarily cite” just this one?
    The police have “far too much time on its hands.” Well, there has been an ongoing state-, nation-, world-wide partial shutdown. The police and many, many people in other occupations probably do have too much time on their hands–for the time being–but that doesn’t explain why she received a citation.

    1. During a global pandemic of unknown lethality,

      So libertarians should default to obeying ‘Top Men’ now? Let’s not forget that while in some places this is a massive issue, in other places there are a whole 32 positive cases (out of over 200,000 people). And that’s over the last 3 months.

      https://www.yumacountyaz.gov/government/health-district/divisions/emergency-preparedness-program/coronavirus-2019-covid-19-yuma-county-updates-3651

      I should stop having a garage sale because a city on the other side of the country deliberately chose to encourage people to group up together at the end of January?

      1. “libertarians” in this comment section only recommend following top men if you are a mexican toddler guilty of being carried across an imaginary line without certain paperwork. In that case, you should respect authority and you knew the consequences so it is personal responsibility to suffer the consequences.

        If you are anyone else, then “FREEDOM!”

    2. The lethality is being evaluated all the time, and the latest data suggests it’s not very lethal at all.

      Libertarians value liberty very highly. Diktats from Top Men that are anti-liberty (no right to free movement, no right to free association, no right to trade freely) are also anti-libertarian and rightly ignored.

      1. Yes, I know. I agree. The Covid-19 lethality rate is most likely low to very low. The shutdowns may have been too much.
        A $500 ticket for attending a religious service in your car is ridiculous.
        Permits, fees, permission for a yard sale are ridiculous.
        Getting two warnings during a worldwide viral pandemic, holding an absolutely non-essential event for the general public, and then getting a bit more than a serious ticket–if any government is ever justified taking action to protect public health, this may be a pretty good example libertarians can accept. Hopefully, the woman can promise to refrain from yard sales during all future pandemics in exchange for dropping the misdemeanor charge.

        Even during a rare, but likely chance of a genuine public health emergency, it sure is hard to know where to draw the libertarian line. The current pandemic has exposed real weaknesses in our democracy. To consider these matters for likely genuine future emergencies, now is a great time. “Likely” because we can only address genuine emergencies before we know they are genuine. “Now” because we just dodged a viral bullet. Data soon will indicate the lethality rate was low, but only because the rate of infection was very, very high. If lethality was high, we would be having much different discussions in the future.

    3. Uh, how many yards total are there in Rathdrum, Idaho?

      1. At least two — their front yard and their back yard.

    4. Ah, the dude abiding. You’re really leaning into the role, aren’t you?

      1. That’s good. I knew someone would make the connection, though I never intended to suggest that one exists between me and the true Dude. I’d like to lean into the role, but know I’m not up to it. I need to turn my commentary into an homage, somehow.

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  17. I’m having a hard time rustling up empathy for this woman. Should be obvious that yard sales are something that can wait. Idiot.

    1. She needed the money to pay bills. The bill don’t wait.

    2. It is at this time I am reminded of Penn Jillette’s formulation of libertarianism, which I can paraphrase as “I don’t know what’s best for you, so I won’t make decisions for you.” Unfortunately most people are not as self-aware as Penn.

    3. Oh god. Judgment all around from so-called libertarians? Right- why don’t you keep hiding out from “deadly Covid?”

  18. Yet the coloreds have their outdoor parties with no masks,gloves and up each other’s asses with impunity. Usual double standard for the govt. pets.

    1. So the guys with ar15’s and empty plate carriers (lol mountain dew-guzzling airsoft hicks) were arrested for breaking quarantine? Oh they weren’t? So what’s your point, racist?

  19. I hope to God that a case like this, or this specific case gets taken on and escalated up to the Supreme Court.

    Official state swearing in Oaths, the ones that I looked at like New York, Idaho, California, Oregon, and a couple other states I cannot recall at the moment, almost always have them swearing to uphold the US Constitution within the first sentence. Yet, here we are with Mayors and governors all over the country thinking that their city, county, or state laws trumps the US Constitution.

    1. You mention a very common misconception about the US and the Constitution.
      The US Constitution created a federation of state governments possessing “rights.” The Bill of Rights served to prohibit only the federal government from intruding upon citizen exercise of the rights mentioned. (The Second Amendment applies exceptionally to all governments.) The “incorporation” of the Bill of Rights, requiring states to apply the standard of the Bill of Rights to its citizens, began in 1865 with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment.
      Ironically, the Supreme Court could “hold” that upholding the US Constitution in the yard sale case means preventing the federal government from interfering with actions of Idaho’s governments or that it means assisting the federal government’s exercise of its authority in Idaho under the all purpose Interstate Commerce Clause. Yard sale holder Christa Thompson will have a good chance before a local, if sympathetic judge, no chance before a federal judge.

      1. The 14th amendment imposes the Bill of Rights onto the states.

        1. Correct. The Thirteenth Amendment created a fundamental precedent, the Fourteenth directly established the doctrine of “Incorporation,” and the Fifteenth protected individual rights by protecting the vote.

  20. What would be the most effective way of telling the guvnor and his crony cops to f off? There doesn’t seem to be any way to leave feedback on the official state site.

    1. Protesters in Virginia did a pretty good job of that back in January.

  21. If Walmart can sell clothing and household goods during the shutdown, why can’t this gal?

    1. Walmart knows who to bribe, and how much.

  22. “The fact that officers of this department took the time to seek out and arbitrarily cite this individual,” Dindinger said, “indicates to me the Rathdrum Police Department has far too much time on its hands and is perhaps itself ‘non-essential.'”

    Mic drop!

  23. It’s time to recall the Battle of Athens:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

    1. Wow, that’s quite a story!
      I didn’t recall it, because I hadn’t heard of it before.
      Also, I had a different Athens in mind when I clicked on the link.

  24. The Governors say who can go out, who is permitted to work, how and if laws apply.

    Thus we regress from the Rule of Law back to the Rule of Man.

  25. A yard sale is NOT a “business” At best its like cadging a dozen eggs from your neighbour, or swapping a head of lettuce for said dozen eggs.

    Stupid dirty copper don’t know a business from a garbage truck.

    WHO is da guvnr to TELL everyone in Idaho what is “essential”? In one case, selling eggs is essential. In another, selling used clothes is essential. How bout the buying end of those transactioins?

    Now, just how close did that dirty copper come to our hero yard sale concuctor as he handed her that contaminated, infected, piece of paying paper? He wwas there multiple times, too. WHY are the tax dollars of Rathdrum being wasted in this wretch as he spent time online, Craigslist, etc, to ferret out the details of the sale?

    If the people of Idaho are “allowed”” to “freely associate” at the local Home Depot, Lowes, TruValue, etc, all within an enclosed space, and guaranteed, at some point in their “visit” to come within a fathom of SOMEONE else, how can it possibly be so that folks wandering about on Dad’s front lawn poking rhrough his shirts and used tools and barbecue grille be any more dangerous?

    THis is NOT about danger of infection. This is about control for its own sake.

    Pushback is NEEDED.
    If I were her I’d be suing the dirty copper for denial of her constititinal rights under false colour of law. Sue him personally as well as in his official capacity, Once suit is filed, go after his personal bond and insurance. Can’t play dirty copper when his bond is suspended.
    Wanna play dirty? Come on, let’s dance.

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