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Nearly 2,800 People Quarantined in New York City To Prevent Spread of Coronavirus

Plus: Man jailed for licking ice cream that wasn't his, decriminalizing polygamy in Utah, and more...

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Mandatory quarantines on the upswing in New York. As residents of more and more U.S. cities test positive for the coronavirus, any hope of keeping it contained seems to have passed America by. And while the disease itself may still be nothing to panic about, government reactions to the coronavirus—a.k.a. COVID-19—are starting to ring some pretty big alarm bells.

Already, thousands of Americans are being told to "self-quarantine"—and could find themselves facing hefty fines if they venture outside.

In New York's Westchester County, where a lawyer this week tested positive for the virus, more than 1,000 people are being asked to voluntarily self-quarantine and "two or three dozen" have been ordered to complete a mandatory quarantine, according to New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

In New York City, 2,773 people are under quarantine, officials with the Health Department announced yesterday. Most of these people—who have not tested positive for coronavirus but may have been exposed—are completing voluntary "home isolation." One woman who tested positive for the coronavirus, along with her spouse, were put under a mandatory quarantine order.

Both mandatory quarantine orders and voluntary quarantine requests are likely to increase, according to officials. "We're going to get more and more mandatory as needed," said NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio at a press conference yesterday.

Enforcing these orders are health department employees who are also "sworn peace officers with the legal authority make arrests, use physical force and conduct searches," notes the New York Post. "Breaking involuntary confinement can result in fines of between $200 and $2,000 per day in the city and up to $2,000 per incident elsewhere."

The paper also points out that "voluntary" quarantine orders aren't really all that voluntary:

City and state laws don't provide any penalties for violating voluntary quarantine, which is the "preferred method" of isolating carriers or potential carriers of contagious diseases, according to an official Public Health Legal Manual published in 2011.

But if people refuse to comply, they can be subjected to involuntary quarantine by order of the health commissioner in New York City, or by local boards of health elsewhere in the state.

These health police in New York City can also sanction certain folks for refusing to get tested for the coronavirus.

New York City said this week that testing is mandatory for all teachers, health professionals, and emergency responders at risk of catching COVID-19. Those who won't take the test will be put on mandatory quarantine at home or at "such other location determined by the Department," according to an order from the Health Department.


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  • In California, authorities are requiring that private health insurance companies cover coronavirus testing "free" of cost to those who qualify, whether tests are administered at a doctor's office, an urgent care center, or an emergency facility.
  • The Trump administration is expanding the number of temporary seasonal work visas available by 35,000.
  • A man in Texas was sentenced to 30 days in jail and a $1,000 fine for licking a container of ice cream in a Walmart. He has also been ordered to pay the ice cream manufacturer, Blue Bell Creameries, $1,565 in restitution.
  • Andrew Yang has started a nonprofit that will run a universal basic income experiment in New York State.
  • "Today's prohibition on polygamy has created a shadow society in which the vulnerable make easy prey," said Utah lawmaker Deidre Henderson, the sponsor of a newly-approved bill to decriminalize polygamy. "Because of the very real fear of imprisonment, losing employment, not being treated fairly, and having their children taken into state custody, we now have an environment where crime often goes unreported, victims are silenced, and perpetrators are empowered."
  • Even Vox co-founder Ezra Klein, the poster boy for faith in big government, has some reservations about the 2020 presidential candidate options:

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  1. Mandatory quarantines on the upswing in New York.

    Someone get me Snake Plissken!

    1. I think James Cole would be more suited for the task at hand.

      1. He can time travel back to 1988 when they built that wall around Manhattan.

  2. Already, thousands of Americans are being told to “self-quarantine”…

    Back in middle school they didn’t need to tell me to “self-quarantine” if you know what I mean.

    1. Hihn and Kirkland say that they don’t get it and want you to show them “what you mean” later, behind the gym.

  3. Voluntary means mandatory.

    1. Well, you pay your income taxes voluntarily, right?

  4. But if people refuse to comply, they can be subjected to involuntary quarantine by order of the health commissioner in New York City, or by local boards of health elsewhere in the state.

    Repurposing the Shelter in Place Clause in the Bill of Rights.

    1. Stores running out of plastic sheeting and duct tape.

  5. “Even Vox co-founder Ezra Klein, the poster boy for faith in big government, has some reservations about the 2020 presidential candidate options”

    I share his disappointment about Elizabeth Warren ending her campaign. But Biden and Sanders are both clearly preferable to Drumpf.

    Klein, by the way, is a fantastic writer. This is one of his best: It’s time to admit Hillary Clinton is an extraordinarily talented politician

    #StillWithHer
    #LibertariansForVox

    1. LOL – that’s gold Johnnie

    2. Ezra Klein “…A 73-year-old conspiracy theorist who rambles incoherently and lies constantly”

      See. I told you Hillary was the stealth candidate.

      1. Trump is actually Clinton’s alter ego. That’s why “his” hair and skin look so fake. It all makes sense now.

  6. In California, authorities are requiring that private health insurance companies cover coronavirus testing “free” of cost to those who qualify…

    Government is the name we give the coercion we all choose to suffer together.

    1. Good, now Aunt Liz can get tested 4-5 times per week, for “free”

    2. I agree, fellow Glibertine. Those poor poor insurance companies. Being coerced like this!! Why doesn’t anyone give a shit about greedy evil private insurance companies?? I mean you ask 99% of people who are not pathetic servile bootlicking slaves to free market ideology if this is a good idea and they’d tell you “of course, dummy”… why does the average person think The Glibertine Party is so ridiculous and dumb?? It’s so infuriating.

  7. The Trump administration is expanding the number of temporary seasonal work visas available by 35,000.

    Wall-building season.

    1. Oh, so “We’ll make Mexico pay for it!” was a somewhat confused attempt to say “We’ll pay Mexicans to make it!”?

  8. A man in Texas was sentenced to 30 days in jail and a $1,000 fine for licking a container of ice cream in a Walmart.

    “So what are you in for?”

    1. Being stupid.

    2. 30 days in county? That’ll fucking suck.

      1. Not suck, lick. Please pay attention.

    3. Not sure why his cell mates keep putting ice cream all over their bodies… strange.

    4. Litterin’

      1. And creatin’ a nuisance

    5. Why would you not buy during a downturn? The underlying fundamentals are still strong and once public fear subsides there will be a rebound. Jobs report came out today, 273,000 new jobs last month and unemployment dropped back down to 3.5%. If I had the money, I would be doing some purchasing of my own. You may lose money in the short run but you will make it up in the long run. The Market almost always rebounds.

      1. I wouldn’t buy pre-licked ice cream, I don’t care how strong the fundamentals are.

      2. The market, as a whole, always rebounds. If it ever doesn’t rebound, then the only safe place for your wealth would be tangible goods in your house.

      3. I might. Have some cash there. My stocks are in good strong long term investments so not too worried.

    6. And here I thought all the weirdos were in Florida

  9. He has also been ordered to pay the ice cream manufacturer, Blue Bell Creameries, $1,565 in restitution.

    That’s one expensive tub of ice cream.

    1. If you’d had Blue Bell you would understand.

    2. I expect WalMart had to consider the whole section unsaleable after that

    3. That’s one expensive tub of ice cream.

      That’s what Joe Biden said contemplating Stacey Abrams as VP.

  10. Andrew Yang has started a nonprofit that will run a universal basic income experiment in New York State.

    It would almost have to be a nonprofit.

    1. If we could find a way to tax Big UBI, we could balance the budget.

    2. So far the experiments are batting zero. But he persisted.

      1. Just remember, friend – real socialism has never been tried.

  11. A 73-year-old conspiracy theorist who rambles incoherently and lies constantly

    He espouses conspiracy theories and is incoherent, but lies constantly…does that mean he doesn’t even believe his own conspiracy theories and he is secretly a very coherent thinker? Sounds like the best candidate to me

    1. 4D conspiracy chess

    2. It means Klein has a raging case of TDS and still hasn’t accepted that the hag lost.
      Whine, whine, whine…

    3. The biggest conspiracy the last decade has been trump being a putin puppet. Not sure ezra is self aware.

      1. Conspiracy or theory?

        1. Conspiracy.

          1. Glad you finally admit it.

            1. Have you considered therapy?

              1. I did, but then I remembered that I’m practically perfect. Would be a total waste.

            2. Admit that statists and the DNC were conspiring to lie about Trump and Russia?
              Pretty sure Jesse and Nardz ‘admitted’ that from the start.

      2. The pee story though, that one has never been disproven.

    4. The Government is spying on his campaign, haha, what a wacko

  12. More bad economic news.

    Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch has lost almost $6 billion this year.

    The frustrating part is that it’s so obvious how we can create an economy that works best for billionaires: eliminate tariffs, abolish the minimum wage, and open the borders. But that won’t happen as long as white nationalist Republicans control the Presidency.

    #VoteDemocratToHelpCharlesKoch

    1. No wonder the Reasonistas have been polishing up their big media bonafides lately. Poor job security is the reason why we’ve been seeing so many JournoList think pieces.

  13. “Because of the very real fear of imprisonment, losing employment, not being treated fairly, and having their children taken into state custody, we now have an environment where crime often goes unreported, victims are silenced, and perpetrators are empowered.”

    Boilerplate anti-prohibition argument is correct.

    1. Somehow I doubt the mormons pushing for this would be supportive of legalizing prostitution, even though all the same arguments could be made for it as well.

      1. Even a broken clock is right twice a a day. I’ll let them have this one

  14. Where’s lc1789? Still smashing that buy button? I tried to tell you, dude.

    1. Keep selling; the market loves panicked idiots.

      1. You think DOLs min wage stock let’s him buy stock?

        With how ignorant he is he probably has never even read a study about how bad attempts at market timing are or buying on a panic is

        1. Min wage job*

          1. It’s hard to find good paying work when your job market is limited to Mom’s basement.

        2. No evidence accepted without eyewitnesses, unless it’s assumptions you want to make about other commenters.

        3. We (wife and I) did not lose one penny in ’08; if you don’t sell low, you can’t lose money.
          By ’10, we were up; those buys were bargains by then.

          1. you should have sold a little to tax harvest, at least.

            1. “you should have sold a little to tax harvest, at least.”

              When I start taking advice from financial ignoramuses, you’ll be the first to know.

              1. Mmk bud. I have made very few predictions around here, but they have all been correct so far.

                You can just tell us you don’t know what tax harvesting is. You don’t have to get all snippy. Jeez.

                1. DOL….Better than 90% of investors have no need of tax harvesting. For most Americans, it does not apply.

        4. You can’t get anything right, can you? If you were slightly humble at all, you could learn something. Oh well, keep buying into dead cat bounces and calling it winning.

          1. Lol. Man you’re pathetic.

      2. “Keep selling; the market loves panicked idiots.”

        Best financial advice since a similar source declared ‘stock market sure looks good to me’ just before the market sustained its greatest single-day decline in history.

        1. On top of being an asshole bigot, you’re a fucking financial imbecile! One more amateur; keep on selling, sucker. Take those losses! Turn your 401k into a 201k; I’ll be laughing all the while.

      3. I sold 85% of my equity positions on Jan 29.

        And the market doesn’t love anyone. It does, however, turn emotional partisans into bag holders.

        1. So fifty bucks then?

          1. It would gauch to discuss amounts. I do max my IRA contributions and put away a good portion of my pay into the TSP when I served. So the amount is dear to me, at least. Still doesn’t compare to my real estate holdings. I know, I know, commies on the west coast getting rich by owning houses. It’s not fair.

        2. “I sold 85% of my equity positions on Jan 29.”

          Had to cover a parking ticket, did you?

          1. He needed a pack of smokes.

      4. Relax
        I called my mom today. I always call her on Fridays before the sabbath. My mom is 78 years old. Great grandmother, I can’t count how many now since my sisters kids pop them out faster than rabbits.

        The stock market. She is a very smart person always a reader. These days she listens to talk radio, loudly, most of the day.

        She says don’t worry about the stock market. So my mom is never, ever wrong about anything. She is like the cookie baking Oracle in the matrix.

        Forget those stock gurus. Echo spinners mother says it will be fine. And have a cookie.

        1. You’re younger than 75???
          Jfc

    2. My work is done?

  15. Ugh, I see #TrumpRussia denialists like Glenn Greenwald are pouncing on a minor arithmetic error on MSNBC.

    This wasn’t some off-the-cuff live-TV moment. It was a planned graphic. Imagine how many people’s hands, and brains, this had to pass through in order for it to make onto the air and then receive the endorsement of the two people on air. MSNBC is such a shitshow

    He’s just jealous because Rachel Maddow got #TrumpRussia right and he got it wrong.

    #LibertariansForMSNBC

    1. minor arithmetic error

      Right. They just forgot to move the decimal point. Six places.

  16. Good Morning.
    I’m just here to continue dancing on the grave of Lie-a-watha’s Presidential campaign.
    Conga line!

    1. Ah, so that’s why it’s raining

      1. It’s leaving a trail of tears.

  17. My understanding of the following is that, as of yesterday, the FISA Court will no longer consider warrant applications if anyone at the FBI who was a party to the Carter Page applications had anything to do with it–so long as they are under criminal investigation.

    “U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, the presiding judge on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), issued an order Wednesday setting out an additional framework for the Justice Department and FBI to follow in future FISA proceedings. The order specifies that “no DOJ or FBI personnel under disciplinary or criminal review relating to their work on FISA applications shall participate in drafting, verifying, verifying, reviewing or submitting such applications to the court.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fisa-court-judge-bars-doj-fbi-personnel-facing-disciplinary-review-surveillance-warrant-process/

    That this requires a legal opinion is absurd. If a cop is under criminal investigation for perjury in earlier trials, it shouldn’t be and, as far as I know, isn’t necessary for a judge to make a public proclamation that prosecutors shouldn’t take the word of cops for granted if the cops in question is currently under investigation for lying to the court. If a witness has been convicted or is currently under investigation for perjury, the defense team should simply be able to point this out to the jury or the witness should be impeached. At the very least, it’s the jury’s job to gauge the credibility of witnesses.

    Of course, there is no jury in a FISA proceeding. The defendant may never learn that he or she was put under surveillance, and the actions of judges in granting warrants can’t be reviewed if no one even knows it’s happening–which is what makes the Carter Page case so unusual. If it hadn’t been a scandal, bogus or otherwise, the President himself might never have known his own FBI was subjecting him to this.

    This is why there is no legitimate reform of the FISA process if it doesn’t include an exemption for American citizens (at the very least) and it doesn’t include a provision that requires the government to inform the subject of the surveillance in question that he or she was under surveillance after the fact.

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    —-Fourth Amendment

    The fact is that people should be free to investigate whether a warrant was reasonable or unreasonable based on the “oath or affirmation” in question, and if FISA doesn’t allow for such an investigation, then, as far as I’m concerned, it’s in violation of the Fourth Amendment. After all, if the president can be subjected to to a warrant granted on the basis of half-truths, fabrications, omissions, and lies by the FBI–even after he’s been elected and put in charge of the FBI–then the rest of us don’t stand a chance.

    I’m not sure why Reason hasn’t been covering recent developments on this, which, as I mentioned yesterday, is that the President has told the House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader McConnell, and the Attorney William Barr that he won’t sign a reauthorization of the Patriot Act, which expires on March 15th, if it doesn’t include serious reform of the FISA process. This is a big deal for liberty loving people of all parties if President Trump sticks to his guns, and it should be given a lot of publicity in an election year.

    P.S. It isn’t enough that the FISA court refuses to consider warrant applications prepared by those who are under criminal investigation. It is also necessary to question warrant applications prepared under the supervision of FBI agents who supervised the Carter Page applications. What’s the point of having supervisors if they aren’t held responsible for the behavior of the FBI agents they supervise?

    1. “My understanding of the following is that, as of yesterday, the FISA Court will no longer consider warrant applications if anyone at the FBI who was a party to the Carter Page applications had anything to do with it–so long as they are under criminal investigation.”

      So this suggests the FISA court *WAS* taking applications from those under criminal investigation until now?

      1. Holy shit!

    2. “I’m not sure why Reason hasn’t been covering recent developments on this”

      Yes you are.

    3. The FISA court must be abolished. It is as simple as that.

  18. Even Vox co-founder Ezra Klein, the poster boy

    Sadly I actually believe some of the writers here have his poster up.

  19. PAANNIICC!!!

  20. “Because of the very real fear of imprisonment, losing employment, not being treated fairly, and having their children taken into state custody, we now have an environment where crime often goes unreported, victims are silenced, and perpetrators are empowered.”

    The YFZ raid on an FLDS compound in 2008 should be duly noted here, when Child Protective Services stripped 462 children from their parents in a raid on the basis of bogus accusations made by a 33 year old woman who was posing as an underage girl at the ranch when she called in the accusations–and was known for making similar bogus accusations in the past.

    “Swinton has previously been responsible for hoax calls to authorities in multiple jurisdictions, setting off large emergency responses that sometimes involved dozens of police officers.[58] Flora Jessop recorded nearly 40 hours of Swinton’s phone calls, both before and after the raid on the YFZ ranch.[59] Swinton posed alternately as “Sarah Barlow” and her sister Laura. She claimed that her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her and that his other wives tried to poison her.[60] Swinton herself was 33 at the time, unmarried, and childless.[61]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch#Rozita_Swinton

    Argue about what was found on the basis of that bogus complaint all you like, but justice isn’t supposed to work that way. It’s like the government thanking a gamer for SWATTING somebody because they accidentally called a SWAT team into a real hostage situation.

  21. So, Ezra Klein’s so irredeemably racist and sexist that he refuses to acknowledge that Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race.

    1. All the liberals did , including hollywood. It is pretty fucking funny actually.

    2. Don’t forget Bill Weld.

    3. He also didn’t acknowledge all the third party candidates that are still running, so what’s your point? Tulsi was the best in a bad lot, but she has no chance of winning the nomination and no chance of being president. Just like all the others still running.

  22. government reactions to the coronavirus—a.k.a. COVID-19—are starting to ring some pretty big alarm bells.

    Keerist you people are beyond stupid. The US government reaction (including the CDC at this point) can best be characterized as sticking their heads up their butts, blaming foreigners, and hoping it all goes away. And the ‘libertarian’ fear is — too much government involvement?!? Except for the blaming foreigners part, isn’t this EXACTLY your advice as to what govt should always be doing in response to everything – nothing?

    1. Yeap. You’re ignorant. Even the WHO has stated that the steps taken by the US government delayed the spread.

      1. WHO has legitimacy today, eh? Do you think globalist institutions like WHO really have your best interest in mind?

        1. They do on things like this. They are very helpful in infectious disease and epidemiology.

    2. PANIC, JFree!
      It’s amusing watching lefties run around screaming like be-headed chickens.

  23. Well, with Warren dropping out, now we can see what all the “political rival” noise was about during the impeachment drama–the DNC actually made its primary candidate choice months ago, but had to put on a show for the rubes that anyone other than Biden was their first choice and that they were going to ratfuck Bernie again. Buttigieg almost fucked that up with the Shadow app fiasco in Iowa, but it’s now looking like the main reason for having so many candidates, besides the inevitable voter list farming that takes place, was to limit Biden’s exposure during the early debates so he didn’t get beat up on very badly.

    The DNC may have been hoping that Bernie would have his votes diluted with Warren and Buttigieg in the mix, but it looks like the call went out to for the establishment to officially get behind Biden after Bernie emulsified him in Nevada, despite stories about the state’s biggest labor union getting hammered by the BernieBros for choosing not to endorse a candidate for the first time in forever. Buttigieg and Klobuchar might not have gotten the nomination. However, they were far more competitive than Sleepy Joe and there was no logical reason for them to drop out within 48 hours of Super Tuesday unless they were told by the DNC that they needed to end their campaigns if they wanted any kind of future in the party.

    What’s notable here is the only candidate that really went after Biden in the debates, besides Bernie later on, was Julian Castro, who endorsed Elizabeth Warren after he dropped out and called Biden senile right to his face. It’s also notable that the DNC changed the qualification rules for the next debate at the last minute so Tulsi couldn’t participate–she’ll be endorsing Bernie when she drops out, and the last thing they want is the Surf Mommy shanking Biden the way she did to Harris.

    Also, note to “independents” who are Democrats In All But Name–if you want to be taken seriously by the political party you’re trying to take over, you need to actually join the party first.

    1. Bernie was supposed to let up on the billionaire bullshit. This is happening to Biden despite his strategy. Bernie is going around saying that Biden has 60 billionaire donors, and that’s a big part of the reason why Biden is doing so well. Those 60 billionaires didn’t show up with gifts for no reason. They kept waiting for Bernie to STFU about billionaires, and when he didn’t, they all decided on one guy to stand behind. For a while, they thought it might be Bloomberg, but Warren scratched his eyes out, so it ended up being Biden.

      1. It’s just like the progressive problem with the white, blue collar middle class. Their instincts are to hate on the white blue collar middle class for being racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and too stupid to sacrifice their standard of living on the altar of climate change. You get all kinds of big donors and adulation from the media for hating on them that way. The problem is that once you convince the white, blue collar, middle class that you hate them, they don’t want to want to vote for you anymore.

        Billionaires are the same way. Everybody loves you for hating on billionaires–except the billionaires. And guess who you depend on for financing between South Carolina and Super Tuesday? Hate on billionaires day in day out for so long, and sooner or later, the billionaires may start thinking that you don’t like them very much, and if you don’t like them very much, why should they like you?

        1. That’s likely why the DNC is backing Biden–he’s the only candidate with any kind of experience that didn’t despise those white blue-collar workers. It’s why the people endorsing him and Biden in his speeches are all preaching “unity,” despite the fact that their activist base openly hates that demographic as too ignorant to be allowed to have a voice anymore, because it’s The Current Year and they’re On the Wrong Side of History.

          1. They still hate white, blue collar, workers. It’s just that Bernie wasn’t under their control, so Biden won by default.

      2. “it might be Bloomberg, but Warren scratched his eyes out”

        I just realized: Warren finally performed a public service!

    2. I’m still of the opinion that absolutely nobody really loves Sleepy Joe; a lot of people merely feel he’s the least bad of an epically horrible group of choices.

      It’s quite telling that the people who got to see, hear, and talk to him up close and personal the most in Iowa and New Hampshire quickly and correctly figured out that he has absolutely no business being president given his rapidly deteriorating condition. The people who overwhelmingly supported him in South Carolina and on Super Tuesday are mostly the (below) average Americans who don’t really have a clue of what’s going on, much like Sleepy Joe himself.

  24. Journalists continue to prove they are more intelligent than us. From msnbc.

    MSNBC’s Brian Williams reads a tweet: “Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. U.S. Population, 327 million. He could have given each American $1 million”

    NYT Editorial Board Member Mara Gay: “It’s an incredible way of putting it. It’s true. It’s disturbing”

    It’s $1.53 per person

    1. Math might be a little off. He could have given every one of his supporters $1M though.

      1. True facts

    2. It’s the new math.

    3. Rest assured, these people read all of Warren’s super detailed plans (she’s an expert and a wonk, you know) and can assure you that the math all checks out.

    4. For common core, it is actually correct. Because he wants it to be correct.

    5. I can’t tell which is more breathtaking, the lack of intelligence or the lack of investigation. They didn’t just get the wrong answer they got the wrong answer that clearly says that *nobody* did anything more than drag their eye over the letters with their brainswitch firmly stuck in the ‘off’ position and maybe not even that.

      You can almost picture the cameramen looking at each other quizzically.

      1. “Ron Burgundy will read anything written on that teleprompter.”

    6. Trump said that Kansas City was in Kansas. What a fucking moron!

      1. Everything is about Bad Orange Man!!!!!!!!

        1. It’s ok to criticize dear leader.

          1. But the obsession to do it in a thread about Brian Williams making an ass of himself again is a symptom of your TDS.

      2. There is a Kansas City in Kansas, though.

        1. I’m sure that’s what Trump meant. The Kansas City, KS Chiefs who won the other super bowl.

          1. De Oppresso Liber
            March.6.2020 at 2:53 pm
            “I’m sure that’s what Trump meant. The Kansas City, KS Chiefs who won the other super bowl.”

            I’m sure that’s what a terminal TDS victim meant.
            Fuck off and die, shitbag.

        2. That is also one contiguous city.

          1. It is just on opposite sides of the river. He has said enough actual dumb things to let this one slide.

  25. Markets implode.

    December’s estimate of payroll growth was revised upward by 37,000 to 184,000. January’s number was revised up by 48,000 to 273,000. That adds a total of 85,000 more jobs than had previously been reported putting the three-month moving average at 243,000 jobs

    1. I love watching the trumpistas trying to negate the reality of the economic impact of corona virus. Yes, the stock market is going to go down. No, it’s not Trump’s fault (well, he did have the market white hot with all that deficit spending, which primed it for a correction, but who’s keeping track). Yes, it was stupid of you all to point at the market as an indication of Trump’s success. Own the good, own the bad. Trump’s usually pretty good at getting out of accountability, so don’t get too upset yet.

      1. “I love watching the trumpistas trying to negate the reality of the economic impact of corona virus.”

        I love financial imbeciles panicking and making asses of themselves.
        Your TDS is just one more amusement.

        1. If he wasn’t such an ass I’d have sympathy for all his suffering from TDS.

          I picture him as one of those people who scream at the TV while watching sports, except he’s watching MSNBC.

          1. I haven’t had cable in this century. And I am not a democrat, can’t stand maddows when I’ve caught clips on youtube or in public spaces. You guys really need to stop conflating calling out obvious corruption from your demi god with being a communist.

            Not much of a sports fan, either. Who’s got 3 hours to sit and watch tv several times a week?

            1. So you just scream at your computer then.

        2. Who’s panicking? The people who prepared their portfolios for the exact scenario we find ourselves in today? Or the people trying to deny that a new uncontained virus is going to have economic impacts?

          1. Keep it sold through summer. Dare you.

          2. De Oppresso Liber
            March.6.2020 at 1:59 pm
            “Who’s panicking? ”

            You who claimed (lied) about selling your capital in January, you pathetic piece of shit.

  26. “Today’s prohibition on polygamy has created a shadow society in which the vulnerable make easy prey,” said Utah lawmaker Deidre Henderson…

    And the stress of the whole thing killed Bill Paxton.

  27. Even the WHO has stated that the steps taken by the US government delayed the spread.

    No they didn’t you lying butt-licking apologist.

    1. Keep PANICKING JFree.
      The screaming of idiot lefties is merely background music.

    2. The Most Trusted Man on Youtube has been quite critical (in his subdued, British way) about the US’s response to this outbreak.

    3. Cant figure out the reply button buddy?

  28. One side effect of quarantines is that they give people an incentive NOT to come forward with their symptoms. People don’t love getting incarcerated.

    1. Vast majority are quarantined at home. Only the ones really sick will be hospitalized and majority would be there anyway.

  29. And while the disease itself may still be nothing to panic about,

    Just hope and pray you’re not a resident of an assisted living facility while an infected orderly coughs on your food tray as he brings it up.

  30. A 73-year-old conspiracy theorist who rambles incoherently and lies constantly

    I do not believe Rachel Maddow is 73 years old.

  31. “”Enforcing these orders are health department employees who are also “sworn peace officers with the legal authority make arrests,””

    Go ahead and arrest, you be right back out on the street thanks to the new bail reform law.

  32. In New York City, 2,773 people are under quarantine, officials with the Health Department announced yesterday. Most of these people—who have not tested positive for coronavirus but may have been exposed—are completing voluntary “home isolation.”

    Do you people even investigate stories anymore? ALL of those people recently returned from the countries under federal travel restriction. NONE of them have been tested AT ALL – because only about 2000 people have been tested across the entire US since this began 8 or so weeks ago. And as you state, it is ‘voluntary home isolation’ – which in fact means nothing at all NOT what is implied by the word ‘quarantine’.

    So instead of saying they haven’t been tested at all, you spin it into an assumption that they have in fact tested negative but MAY (again a spin to hint that there’s no real reason to believe that) have been exposed.

    The reason states are having to declare ‘state of emergency’ is because unlike say Singapore, with their DORSCON system, there is no way in the US to communicate any stepped-up disease outbreak alert. No militia or reserve that would know what to do in the event of a disease outbreak moving from one signal to another. So states instead have to go from ‘all’s well and nothing to see here’ to ‘DO NOT PANIC’.

    And since all that communication is simply being abdicated to the free market (you folks here at Reason), what your readers see as the correct response to the ‘DO NOT PANIC’ by the state is ‘OMFG THEY’RE SENDING US ALL TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS.’

    What a pathetic website and a pathetic political philosophy you are hawking. A bunch of useless posers.

    1. I don’t always agree with you… but I have to say you’re kind of spot on here. I read the headline, then the details in the article and there’s a lot of digging holes and putting ledes in them.

      I think your comments about the free market at the end have room for discussion, but yeah, New York hasn’t started rounding up random citizens and locking them down.

      1. New York hasn’t started rounding up random citizens and locking them down.

        Not since Bloomberg’s stop and frisk days, anyway.

  33. don’t feed Ezra Klein.

  34. >>fine for licking a container of ice cream in a Walmart.

    literally a bigger epidemic in Texas than covid.

  35. Enforcing these orders are health department employees who are also “sworn peace officers with the legal authority make arrests, use physical force and conduct searches,”

    Then get a warrant.

    1. Generally rarely necessary though. People will comply if they are comfortable.

      Staying home is not that bad. The only thing they should need to do is make sure people have what they need.

    2. Besides even if they need warrants the judge is just going to leave a pile of signed blank warrants on the desk for them anyway.

      1. Fuck off, slaver.

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