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Gender-Neutral U.S. Passports Could Be Coming Soon

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New legislation in the U.S. House of Representatives would create a gender-neutral option for U.S. passports. The bill, H.R. 5962, would "require the inclusion of a gender neutral designation in a passport, passport card, or Consular Report of Birth Abroad."

If the legislation passes, "the Secretary of State shall, not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this section… permit an applicant for a passport, passport card, or Consular Report of Birth Abroad … to use an "unspecified" (X) gender designation."

The option would be available to any applicant, regardless of the sex listed on their birth certificate, their gender presentation, or other qualifying conditions. No one could be forced to mark "unspecified" as their gender, even if the applicant "has one or more identity documents bearing a sex or gender designation other than male (M) or female (F)."

The bill was introduced by Rep. Ro Khanna (D–Calif.). "Respecting every American's gender must extend to travel abroad," he said in a statement. "The freedom to move and express yourself no matter what should be guaranteed in this country."

A growing number of U.S. states have been allowing or at least considering the option of allowing a gender-neutral driver's license designation. And the U.S. wouldn't be the first nation to do the same for international travel documents.

"By requiring the State Department to offer passport applicants a third gender marker option, the U.S. will join 10 other countries that already issue passports with this option," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D–Wash.).

Australia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Malta, New Zealand, the Netherlands, and Pakistan all offer the option to list "X" for gender, in addition to male and female options; in Nepal, people can choose "O," for other. India also recognizes a third gender on passports.

"As the proud mother of a non-binary child, I have seen from a deeply personal perspective the freedom that comes from being fully and authentically yourself," Jayapal said in a statement. "Unfortunately, too many of our institutions do not recognize those who do not fit within the gender binary, leaving them feeling erased and unsafe."

It's not just transgender people or those identifying as non-binary who can benefit from changes like these, though. Plenty of people whose gender identity matches their biological sex still fail to conform to expectations about gender presentation (i.e., they look more masculine or feminine than some people think they should), and they wind up penalized by policies that put public officials in charge of policing such things.

There's a purely libertarian plus to this, too: it gives government officials and other ID-checkers no more personal data than is necessary. On documents like passports and driver's licenseswhere pictures, identifying physical details, and barcodes, etc., are enough to establish identitythere's simply no reason why one's sex or gender must also be listed.

Heath Fogg Davis, an associate professor of political science at Temple University, elaborated on this theme in his 2017 book Beyond Trans: Does Gender Matter? The book makes a convincing case that all of us "would be better off in a society with dramatically fewer sex-classification policies."

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  1. So dumb. Indulging the mental ill/feeble.

    1. The Libertarian Case Against Biology – April’20 issue

      1. Bingo…Matt Welch and Nick need to go…honestly they are not libertarians and just want to be invited to the woke parties in DC….like that idiot in charge of the LP who seems right wing boogiemen under every bed..we need a good purge of these folks…

        1. It’s all about social signaling with their peer group for these guys.

      2. We shouldn’t be using bullshit concepts as identifiers on passports anyway.

        There should be an entry for sex.

    2. “So dumb indulging the mental ill / feeble”

      We do that. There is a whole industry thousands of years old devoted to caring for the sick and disabled. You might have heard of it.

      Even if you want to call these people as suffering from a delusion or form of mental illness, a judgement you are not even close to qualified to make, devote around 12 years and board certification, then talk.

      1. What a stupid appeal to authority

  2. As the proud mother of a non-binary child, I have seen from a deeply personal perspective the freedom that comes from being fully and authentically yourself,” Jayapal said in a statement. “Unfortunately, too many of our institutions do not recognize those who do not fit within the gender binary, leaving them feeling erased and unsafe.

    She doesn’t have a “non bionary child”. She has a child and that child has genes and a biology of one sex or the other. No amount pretending and wishing and virtue signaling changes that.

    The book makes a convincing case that all of us “would be better off in a society with dramatically fewer sex-classification policies.”

    Otherwise known as erasing women out of society. It is astounding that someone like ENB who no doubt thinks of herself as a feminist could so easily embrace an ideology that denies there is anything special or different about being a woman such that anyone can be one just by believing they are. It is just as insulting to men as it is to women. But to put it in feminist terms, I can’t imagine anything more misogynistic than claiming that men can declare themselves women and privy to the moral authority of that experience simply by saying so.

    1. Leftists so hate the traditional cultural influence of Christian, white men that as long as they see something advancing an anti-traditional cause, they will actively embrace dogma that is not only inherently damaging to themselves (i.e., allowing a man to identify as a woman and compete in women’s sports), but is also patently insane (a man can become a woman should he feel it).

      1. Most of them hate themselves even more than they hate the rest of us.

    2. Damn, too late to say “INB4 John tells us about how this violates his rights.”

      1. But the rest of us can say we were no to late to be in before you said something stupid.

        There is literally nothing in my post about my rights at all. I am not a woman. And pointing out that children are not “nonbionary” in no way implicates my rights.

        So what causes you to think that I am saying this violates my rights? It makes no sense to say that. Are you just incapable of understanding what I am saying? Are you so desperate to say something and your mind so bereft of thought this is all you can come up with?

        Feel free to disagree with me. Hell, feel free to insult me. I can take it as well as I give. But for God’s sake try and understand what I am saying and at least make a sensible argument or insult in light of that.

        1. “Are you so desperate to say something and your mind so bereft of thought this is all you can come up with?”

          Bingo

          1. Which staff member do you think operates this sock? It’s one of the really stupid ones. Binion maybe?

            1. I dunno.
              I think he’s just a desperate, impotent little bitch who doesn’t have any friends but tricks himself into thinking the commenters here at Reason are a “community” for him.
              He has no ideas and nothing notable to say, so he simply regurgitates something from a book and tries to make “personable” remarks.
              He’s a moron who still thinks progressives are the “cool kids” and tries to suck up to them.
              I can’t pinpoint any single writer he’d be a sock for, but he perfectly represents the Reason collective

    3. “sex-classification policies”

      Conflating gender classification and sex classification. Demonstrating that even they can’t keep their gibberish straight.

  3. I can see it now going to get a passport and checking male only to have the clerk with a smerck on her face and then comment “oh your one of those” then putting that person on the no fly list for believing in actual science. it will now be frowned upon to have a gender

    1. The whole thing is just the left trying to further assert its power. The more humiliating and obvious the lie, the more control it shows to make people say it. This is 2020’s there are “four fingers”.

      1. I don’t know just kick back and enjoy the freak show. this shit is going to totally kneecap itself very quickly in the next 10-20 years.

        1. I hope you are right. We are already seeing that as people wake up to their daughters being expected to compete in sports with boys who pretend to be girls.

          The world has gone so nuts I am now on the same side as radical lesbians. The lesbians who are going ape shit about this stuff are exactly right. The whole thing is driven by pervert men who want to pretend to be women. Notice, you never see a woman trying to shower with men or demand men accept her. It is always some dumb ass in a dress with a beard explaining how he found himself.

          It is also the next step on the way to acceptance of pedophilia. If we are going to say a child is competent to choose their gender and mutilate themselves, how can we then say they are not competent to consent to sex? One almost necessarily follows the other.

          1. I find the lesbians are right about many things including but not limited to their sexual preferences.

            1. I don’t share their taste for butch fat women no matter what Sarcasmic says about me.

              1. Liar

                1. See, now there you made an insult that makes sense. It is not very clever or original but it does make sense. And that is an improvement.

                  1. Blind squirrel. 10,000 monkeys at 10,000 typewriters. Etc, etc.

          2. I’ve seen what you haven’t, John: a friend whose teen daughter is now their “son”.

            1. Cripes.

              Wait until she’s 30 and pissed at her parents for feeding her childhood delusions.

          3. This is an important point. Transgender men are not a really a problem. They are not trying to infiltrate male spaces, and appear to have no desire to do so. As far as athletics are concerned, it is not an issue either. They cannot play on women’s teams if they are on any hormone treatment, and they are simply unable to compete on men’s teams. There was a female swimmer at Harvard a few years ago that was very competitive on the women’s team. She “became male,” switched over to the men’s team, and was off the team in about five minutes due to their inability to compete.

        2. I don’t know just kick back and enjoy the freak show. this shit is going to totally kneecap itself very quickly in the next 10-20 years.

          Thing is, not 100% sure I can fix the car after it’s slammed into a/the tree. Moreover, even whether I can or can’t, the worst it’s going to do is end my journey there. My sons (and other people’s kids), OTOH, are going to get to look forward to operating among the perpetually mentally and morally crippled who outrank them but are in no way their superiors. Even if I were 100% capable of fixing the car after it crashed, I’m dubious of my ability to teach others to do so while operating under those conditions.

      2. “Power don’t come from a badge or a gun. Power comes from lying. Lying big and gettin’ the whole damn world to play along with you. Once you’ve got everybody agreeing with what they know in their hearts ain’t true, you’ve got ’em by the balls.”

        1. Fucking millennials! /half-sarc

          1. Gen X thank you very much. And if you forget it I will have to go all Jay and Silent Bob on your ass.

          2. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d1JwPe7T0kc
            Okay a little good old American Kevin Smith since in the past 72 hours I’ve referenced Monty Python, C.S. Lewis, Sir Terry Pratchett and Sir Patrick Stewart.

          3. At least one boomer think tis a pretty good reference.

  4. There’s a purely libertarian plus to this, too: it gives government officials and other ID-checkers no more personal data than is necessary.

    Unfortunately, ENB, you buried the lede.

    1. They already have your picture, where you were born and a whole lot of other information about you as part of having a passport. Do you really think being able to check “other” on your gender is any kind of a significant gain in privacy or liberty?

      1. In this world, we should be happy with every bit of liberty we can claw back.

        1. When it comes at the price of giving official sanction to lies, no we shouldn’t.

          1. I love spending my free time chatting on sex vorarlberg

        2. just wait until you or your daughter are in a car wreck and your license says X but the medics have to strip you to figure out that your not pregnant. glory be thats no woman

        3. Which is why you shit in your pants over Trump lowering taxes and eliminating regulations right? Because you’re all about liberty.

      2. They can X-ray body scan you, pat you down, and/or strip search you with relative ease and none of that has changed but Reason is sure gonna celebrate that you can refuse to provide them with information on paper that would prevent some/any of the above.

        Illinois will get around to issuing gender agnostic FOID cards and Reason will cream its pants.

        1. Yea, but a shallow nod to “freedom” while advancing totalitarianism is Reason’s, and Leo’s, favorite kind of Progress

          1. It’s not even a shallow nod. Lowering the eyes is a sign of respect or remorse. It’s more like the South Park false apology/nipple rub.

  5. there’s simply no reason why one’s sex or gender must be also be listed.

    Then fucking eliminate that aspect and move on to “age”.

    1. good point instead of marking down male/female/other just get ride of the category. of course when authorities need to identify you you may want a distinction to prove you are not the droid they are looking for

    2. Why stop with sex? Can I list my height is 8 foot three because I identify as giant? Can I list my weight as 300 pounds because I identify as nose tackle? After all, as they have other identifiers for me, why do they need my height and weight?

      1. You’d have to go 330+ to be a nose tackle these days

    3. This is what I immediately thought. There is no legitimate reason to add a non-binary category that isn’t better served by eliminating the category all together. By adding the new option you are just admitting from an administrative level that you never needed the category in the first place.

  6. I hate to be a misogynistic dinosaur but there is no better time in the history of man to be a woman and they still can’t stop bitching. The most privileged class in the history of the world by both living standards and societal expectations is the modern white female and they can’t stand it. It’s actually pretty humorous.

    1. The transgender are going to try and help with that by ending women’s sports and any kind of special protection or benefit given to women.

      1. It’s just more evidence that noone hates women more than women. It’s there undoing as a gender. If it wasn’t for that they would have taken over the world a long time ago. Although I’m not entirely sure they haven’t they were just smart enough not to seem like the one’s in control those guys always seem to catch the stone’s and arrows.

        1. Women control sex and birth. Those are the two greatest powers on earth. I don’t care how much power a man has, he still has to answer to the woman he sleeps with and is the mother of his children. If women ever as a group figured out just how much power they have, we would have a matriarchy very quickly. But, they hate each other and do everything they can to destroy each other or at least make other women’s lives miserable. So the patriarchy is safe.

          1. women hate each other because they are competition for the available men. Something something biology and evolution made them that way but we ignore that these days

      2. The transgender are going to try and help with that by ending women’s sports and any kind of special protection or benefit given to women.

        Women’s sports? No need to veer so far off topic John. Seriously look at the consequences of this article; from now on, whenever a male-identifying TSA agent body cavity searches a nonbinary passenger, it will just be a case of accidental misgendering and never a sexual assault.

        Reason should be along any time to remind us that our delusions about perverts in the TSA are just as wrong as it is about perverts in the bathrooms.

    2. And this nonbinary nonsense for children is mental and in some cases (application of puberty blockers) abuse. That’s just what it is. Can we look at these fucking freak assholes the same way we look at antivaxxers way? Total troglodytes and retards? As maligned as the parent is that pushes their child into sports and is obnoxious about it that in our culture you would think the parent that brainwashes or makes their kid more confused about what is and isn’t normal gender wise as the same level of lunacy is crazy. Life is hard enough to give your child these types of hangups and level of questioning they are not equipped to answer, fuck most adults aren’t cognitively mature enough to understand who and what they are. We are a victim of our own success and lack of problems.

      1. It is straight up abuse. The anti vaxers are just stupid. The people doing this are narcissistic and evil. They don’t give a shit about their kid. They just want to have the virtue signaling opportunities that come with having a “transgendered child”. They are the lowest scum on earth. I can’t imagine how self centered and horrible someone has to be to do that to their kid.

  7. “Unfortunately, too many of our institutions do not recognize those who do not fit within the gender binary, leaving them feeling erased and unsafe.”

    How does having to choose “M” or “F” on a form make someone less safe?

    1. It doesn’t. It makes them feel that way. And according to reason the entire fucking world is obligated to cater to these people’s feelings.

      1. I feel like I should be getting more blowjobs from supermodels, where’s my advocate at Reason?

        1. I identify as a Ferrari owner. Where is my car!!

          1. In the shop.

            1. Well, it is Italian…

              1. All exotics are hangar queens, but Ferrari seems to be the worst.

  8. I identify as a citizen of the world and therefore shouldn’t need a passport.

    1. That tax bill must be rough.

  9. U. S. CONSUL: “Good morning, warden, I understand you have an American citizen in your prison. I wish to visit xir.”

    WARDEN: “Yes, Jack Jones. He’s serving a sentence for drunkenness and public urination. He’s over in the men’s prison, I’ll have someone escort you…”

    CONSUL: “Men’s prison? But Jack Jones is gender nonbinary, why isn’t xhe in a gender-neutral prison?”

    WARDEN: “I’m afraid we don’t have a gender-neutral wing of our prison. Anyway, your information is mistaken, because the report of his public urination indicates that he’s definitely male.”

    CONSUL: “This is an outrage, I’ll see to it that your government hears from my government!”

    1. Now do the conversation in Espanol or Francais or some other language where every noun is gendered….

      1. US CONSUL (In Arabic): “Good morning, warden, I understand you have an American citizen in your prison. I wish to visit xir.”

        WARDEN (In Arabic): “Yes, Jack Jones. He’s serving a sentence for drunkenness and public urination. He’s over in the men’s prison, I’ll have someone escort you…”

        CONSUL (In Arabic): “Men’s prison? But Jack Jones is gender nonbinary, why isn’t xhe in a gender-neutral prison?”

        WARDEN (In Arabic): “I’m afraid we don’t have a gender-neutral wing of our prison. Anyway, your information is mistaken, because the report of his public urination indicates that he’s definitely male. Also, an update to our records indicates that Jack Jones is now being held on the roof of the men’s prison.”

        CONSUL (In Arabic): “This is an outrage, I’ll see to it that your government hears from my government!”

        WARDEN (In Arabic): “OK, but another update to our records indicate that Jack Jones is ready to be released, you can pick him up off ground in front of the prison.”

        1. Yeah, that’s wicked funny if it’s not your kid / friend / cousin / co-worker.

          (Sad but true, there are places where it just ain’t safe for some to travel. If you’re a woman, gay, non-binary, or maybe just jewish, I’d think you’d be wise to stay out of much of the islamic world.)

      2. Which is why this whole pronoun circle jerk of identity correctness simply doesn’t exist in countries with other languages.

        1. Blame it on the Vikings. It’s their fault that English lost its gendered nouns.

  10. All this normalizing of delusional psychosis is not going to end well.

    1. “All this normalizing of delusional psychosis is not going to end well.”

      It usually ends with a reaction that goes way the fuck too hard in the other direction. For as much bitching as idiots like Alyssa Milano do about Trump, she might actually see something like The Handmaid’s Tale come about in 20 years or so if a reformation against this kind of leftist thinking really gets going.

      Or they can just let into the country all of the Wahabbi Muslims. who want to. Same/same.

      1. Say what you want about the Muslims, they don’t mutilate their kids telling them they are really the other sex. This shit makes you think maybe ISIS has a point.

        1. But some do mutilate their female children

          1. Yeah, and what’s male circumcision? A little trim?

        2. they don’t mutilate their kids

          Ummmm……

        3. They just stone them if they have premarital sex.

        4. They absolutely do. The country with the highest rate of male-to-female transsexual surgery is Iran. Why do you think Pakistan is on the list of countries with gender neutral passports?

  11. Was there any reason to have “gender” rather than “sex” on an identification document?

    The supposed emotional fragility of “non-binary” people at being reminded of their biological sex does not actually seem a good reason for this.

  12. Call me when this gets a floor vote in the Senate.

  13. So, it will be M, F or PRNDL. I’m all for it provided PRNDL’s are refused re-entry.

    1. PRNDL? What about manual trannies and CVTs?

      1. CVTs is an apt analogy given that these people’s gender is apparently continuously variable.

        1. And given the terrible way in which CVTs frequently implement ‘manu-matic’ transmissions that fail to emulate conventional gear steps of either manual or automatic transmissions and the fact that CVTs are generally less durable than conventional transmissions, I give this analogy an ‘A’.

      2. My Ford F150 has a semi-automatic transmission, an automatic transmission with a fly by wire manual control mode.

        1. Only the military needs semi-automatic transmissions!

          1. We need common sense tranny control.

  14. This is fantastic news. As a non-binary (they / them) person, I cannot tell you how hurtful it is when people misgender me with he / him / his pronouns just because I have a hairy face and an Adam’s apple so prominent it looks like I swallowed a golf ball.

    1. You forgot to mention the Koch brothers in your comment.

  15. So passports can’t be issued on any time frame faster than continental drift—unless you pay to have things expedited—but the State Department has time to indulge this bullshit.

  16. Hey look, the used up wannabe whore who couldn’t make it as a sugar baby on account of looking like a guy is in favor of non-gendered passports.

  17. This is indeed good news. It’s always good when some trivial bit of crazy nonsense can soak up this much attention – it means that larger problems such as wide-spread war and famine and pestilence and death are still being held at bay. I’d much rather flip on my TV and see Jerry Springer and several white-trash retards arguing over who slept with who’s dead grandmother than to see panic-stricken news anchors giving what little information they can as mushroom clouds blossom in the background.

  18. All passports to now include two photos: head shot, and genitalia shot.

  19. More crazy shit.

    By this logic, we should also eliminate photos from passports, since they depict they way we looked in the past–and we are not bound by anything that happened prior to the next instant and how we feel about who and what we are next.

    1. We should just skip ahead to the final result and issue Completely Neutral Passports. Nothing but blank pages for the stamps.

  20. Australia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Malta, New Zealand, the Netherlands, and Pakistan.

    1. Of course Canada. It’s run by a bunch of social engineering ideological bozos with a piece of sentient lint at its head.

      1. Just like Pakistan, right?

        1. No, Pakistan is a little different. They have men and boys who have been socially or literally castrated for homosexuality who are considered women and present themselves accordingly.

  21. Why so called libertarians get all woked about this stuff and not fight for the real battles…economic liberty and the defense of our natural rights. Sorry but this is so far removed from what is important…and Reason as usual instead of fighting for what matters is all “excited” about passports not indicting the gender. Sorry you are biologically a male or female..all non asexual life forms are.

    thsi is simply cultural marxism..destroying every institution, every reality to turn people into mush….one’s sexual preference is their business..but their biological sex is predetermined…by evolution

    God..can reason please stop the obsession with this and open borders..neither have anything to do with ensuring our natural rights…

    1. Passports are government documents. Why does the government need to know what is between your legs before you are allowed to travel? It’s bullshit.

      1. Why do they need to know what you look like? Why do they need to know your age? IT’S SO THEY CAN IDENTIFY YOU AS THE PARTICULAR PERSON TO WHOM THE DOCUMENT WAS ISSUED, DIPSHIT!

  22. Beth — you are a FUCKING IDIOT

  23. Wonder if any other countries would reject passports which indicate a non-binary gender. I can imagine some of the more un-enlightened might have a problem.

    1. It’s pretty sad when the discourse surrounding this issue gets so muddled that secular, left-leaning evolutionary biologists feel compelled to come out and say, “Um, actually, human sex isn’t on a spectrum. It really is binary. You know, male and female.”

      By the very nature of the way human sex is determined—the union if X and Y sex m chromosomes—a zygote cannot get beyond the moment of conception without being indelibly branded with maleness or femaleness. A zygote lacking binary sex. And no, the existence of (incredibly rare) examples of intersex individuals in no way overturns the binary quality of human sex; indeed, it actually reinforces, because in a hundred percent of these cases, the individuals formed are quite literally defective males or defective females.

      1. Biology is just a tool of the patriarchy.

  24. Australia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Malta, New Zealand, the Netherlands, and Pakistan all offer the option to list “X” for gender,

    Germany only permits individuals determined and certified to be anatomically intersex by a licensed doctor to choose “other” for gender. To present this as “offering the option” is utterly dishonest.

    1. What is Pakistan doing on the list?

      1. It’s run by a bunch of social engineering ideological bozos with a piece of sentient lint at its head. Like the US could become if a non-binary gender option is included in the passport information.

      2. In Muslim countries someone who was born male can be “demoted” to female, especially if they are homosexual, or are used sexually by men. It would be embarrassing for a man traveling with his “girlfriend” to have her “outed” as a boy.

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  26. Identification includes sex not gender. That is designated at birth by DNA and functioning sex organs.

    If you want it to be gender, meaningless, allowing you to change it at will, It is no longer useful as legal identification.

    You might as well take the word sex off all identification and out of our language.

    1. Not everyone has DNA that matches their sex. It’s extremely rare, but it happens. Much more common are intersex individuals who are both in some degree. And even more common are non-functioning sex organs. Males and females who are sterile, for example. Do we now exclude them from flying because it makes you feel safer? Fuck off.

      1. Nobody’s DNA doesn’t match their functioning sex organs.

        People without functioning sex organs have a disorder.

        People who have functioning sex organs and matching DNA but maintain that they are a different sex, have a mental disorder.

        People who play fast and loose with sex are sluts.

        1. > Nobody’s DNA doesn’t match their functioning sex organs.

          You’re actually wrong on this point. It’s extremely rare, but it does happen. I know one person with this status. And someone with that condition caused a major row at the Olympics.

          It’s biological. One’s sex is determined not by DNA but by the hormones present at a certain time during fetal development. The correlation is extremely high, more than 99% correlated. But it is not absolute. You would prevent those rare people from traveling because they don’t match your “facts”. Fucking arrogant.

          I am not talking about biological males thinking they are females, or vice versa. I am talking about actual individuals who were born with a mismatch of some sort. Either with their DNA, or with their organs. Because some people are actually, for reads, no shit, born with both sets of organs, or underdeveloped both sets of organs, or an undeveloped set of one. You in your arrogance would deny them them the human right to travel. Based on their biology at time of birth. Fuck off.

          1. Unless you are claiming that most “trans” people have such conditions, which they do not, then all that is irrelevant the issue of catering to the delusions of “trans” people.

          2. You’re simply lying.

            Nobody with XX chromosomes can produce viable sperm.

            Nobody with XY chromosomes can produce viable eggs.

            Cite any example that refutes this or you fuck off as I’m sure you will.

  27. Reason for Enablers!

    Talk about not seeing the forest beyond the trees. Or whatever the saying is.

  28. I know the comment section will be ridiculing this, but it’s a very good idea. Even for the trans-phobic it’s a good idea.

    Why? Because it’s none of the government’s business what you have between your legs! We shouldn’t even need passports, but since we have them them include the least amount of personal information possible.

    Government is bad. Less government is better. Less information on government passports is better. QED.

    The same reason I don’t list my race or ethnicity on government forms when I have the option not to.

    1. Why? Because it’s none of the government’s business what you have between your legs!

      Which is true, but you’re still going to be described largely by how you present, regardless of how you identify.

      If you’re a 6′ tall dude with a square jaw and 5 o’clock shadow, but “identify as” a woman, when there’s an APB out on you, the radio call will be, “Be on the lookout for a 6′ tall white male, muscular build with 5 o’clock shadow”.

      At some point, the only people who might care about what’s on your documents will be healthcare workers, emergency responders etc.

      1. > If you’re a 6′ tall dude with a square jaw and 5 o’clock shadow, but “identify as” a woman, when there’s an APB out on you, the radio call will be, “Be on the lookout for a 6′ tall white male, muscular build with 5 o’clock shadow”.

        We’re talking passports here. Not police APBs. It’s apples and oranges. The police should be able to adequately describe the suspect. But the government has no need to know what’s dangling between your legs before it allows you to travel.

        By the way, I knew a woman, a biological woman, with children, natural children, who has to shave her facial stubble twice a day. I say “knew” because she passed away a couple of decades ago. I know dozens more women who are six feet tall with relatively flat chests who could pass as men simply by changing their hairstyle and wearing a jacket. Not every woman is a Gibson Girl.

  29. I guess as long as we concentrate on utterly meaningless legislation such as this, I shouldn’t complain.

  30. Using the category of “gender” as a substitute for the biological category of “sex” is a mistake–they are two different things. Using “gender” further allows for a reinterpretation as “gender identity,” which is equally useless as an identifier.

    Biological sex is a testable identifier–not a subjective, internal “sense,” like gender or gender identity. Though there is some rare variation to sex characteristics, it is by far (FAR!) more objective and reliable in matters of identification.

    Using “gender” renders the entire category useless, and may as well be eliminated–though its elimination narrows an objective third-party’s ability to use the testable sex characteristics to identify an individual.

    It’s a mistake–and absurd–and only grounded in politics.

    1. they are two different things.

      Yes, very different. Sex actually exists; gender is a fantasy.

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