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How the Government Is Using Nonsense Rules to Keep Out Immigrants

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Failing to provide a family member's middle name—or leaving any space blank—on an immigration form is now sufficient grounds for government officials to reject it. Washington Post columnist Catherine Rampell tells the story of a woman harmed by this new policy:

After Yolanda was raped, she ran.

She ran from the basement where her attacker had trapped her for three hours. She ran until she found her way to a police station, a place that people such as Yolanda usually avoid at all costs.

Yolanda, a Guatemalan in her 40s, is undocumented. She's been living in the shadows for more than a decade. But Congress created a program intended to encourage immigrants like her to come forward about heinous crimes like this one: the U-visa, for crime victims who assist law enforcement.

Even so, for several months after her assault, she still agonized about whether to apply, which would requiring turning over information not just to local police but to the Trump administration. But lawyers said she had a slam-dunk case.

Then, unexpectedly, the feds rejected her application. Why? Because…her youngest son doesn't have a middle name.

Yolanda's story is getting a lot of attention right now, and people are rightfully upset about her situation. But hers is only one of many applicants rejected for failure to follow the nonsensical new rules, which require Visa applicants in certain categories to fill in every blank, even if the prompt—middle name, apartment number, etc.—doesn't apply to them.

"Years back I had to get a visa to go to Russia to give a talk, and it got rejected twice over silly shit (one time because I had a comma where they didn't want one)," tweeted Techdirt's Mike Masnick. "I laughed it off as Russian bureaucratic nonsense. Now we do it too."

The change was quietly announced on the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) website in the fall. According to the Post,

The American Immigration Lawyers Association has collected 140 other examples of allegedly "incomplete" forms: an 8-year-old child who listed "none" for employment history but left the dates of employment field blank. An applicant who entered names of three siblings, but the form has spaces for four.

The Guardian reported in December that "over a half-dozen immigration attorneys" had told the paper about USCIS returning "applications unprocessed over the equivalent of failing to dot an I or cross a T—a shift with potentially life-altering consequences for their vulnerable clients. The rejection of an application by USCIS does not necessarily mean the client won't get a chance to fix the application and send it back again. But it does force asylum seekers to begin their claim afresh, at best delaying a person's ability to work and, at worst, jeopardizing their ability to remain in the country at all."

Police also undermine the U-Visa program, according to a December 2019 report from the Center for Investigative Reporting. Its

analysis of policies from more than 100 agencies serving large immigrant communities found that nearly 1 of every 4 create barriers never envisioned under the U visa program. A review based on hundreds of police records and nearly 60 interviews found that victims are at the mercy of whatever internal rules police choose.


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South Park battles moral panics, writes Eric Boehm, as we face another round of painfully silly criticism of the show:


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  1. South Park battles moral panics…

    WHEN WILL THEY ATONE FOR THE CULTURAL DAMAGE THEY HAVE WROUGHT

    1. Hello.

      Make America Cry Again! MACA!

    2. Did someone’s feelings get hurt?

      1. Mine are because ENB (and WaPo) is lying to us again.

        But hers is only one of many applicants rejected for failure to follow the nonsensical new rules, which require Visa applicants in certain categories to fill in every blank, even if the prompt—middle name, apartment number, etc.—doesn’t apply to them.

        Wowsers! Prima facie evidence that the-government-is-using-nonsense-rules-to-keep-out-immigrants if I ever saw it, huh.

        But then down below here in the comments Brett Bellmore points out that:
        The problem is, over and over and over, I read accounts like this in Reason, and if I go to the original source material, I find they’ve omitted some really, really critical detail.
        So, going on a hunt, I find Yolanda didn’t just omit her son’s middle name. That was among the reasons her application was rejected. What were the other reasons? I haven’t a clue, all the accounts I can find are from Yolanda’s perspective, probably because the immigration services aren’t allowed to comment on cases for privacy reasons.”

        So it turns out its just more hamfisted propaganda from the site that likes to piss on libertarians and then tell us it’s raining.
        Fuck this. If it wasn’t for Stossel, Volk, Robbie and comment section funposting I’d leave it for good.

    3. I haven’t watched South Park since it became available only on Hulu. I am not getting another streaming subscription. Even though I have been dying to watch the Handmaid’s Tale, since OBL keeps recommending it.

      1. The last 2 seasons of south park have been right on. Definitely worth a watch.

        1. Why are you talking to yourself?

        2. And the season before that?

          Oh yeah, that was one where a running theme was mockery of fascist PC assholes trying to force everyone to think like them.

          Yeah, you probably didn’t like that one so much.

          Haha

      2. On the surface the Handmaid’s Tale appears to be a woke circle jerk about a Protestant theocracy, but when you look deeper you see that it’s actually aimed at Islam.

        In the first place the Republic of Gilead’s doctrines are nowhere to be found in actual Charismatic, Fundamentalist or Evangelical theology, but they are present in all Islamic sects (even “liberal” offshoots like Isma’ilism or the Dervish).
        And actual historical Protestant theocracies like the Evangelical Dutch Republic (Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Provinciën) and the Puritan Commonwealth of England were nothing like Gilead at all, but Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran and Pakistan certainly are.

        So rather than being a fantasy persecution wank for rich, fat feminists, perhaps it’s a stalking-horse to secretly promote anti brown-man sentiments amongst the Wine Moms and Vodka Aunts.

    4. Boehm should concern himself with his own moral panics.

    5. If Boehm didn’t have his own moral panics, he would have nothing.

    6. It’s odd.

      I’ve always gotten the clear message from South Park that one should avoid listening to people like Eric Boehm.

  2. Failing to provide a family member’s middle name—or leaving any space blank—on an immigration form is now sufficient grounds for government officials to reject it.

    Hmm. Are similar errors cause for rejecting tax forms?

    1. Of course. All government forms are prone to such errors. They’re all poorly designed and have poor directions. It’s nearly impossible to fill one out without making several decisions that could arbitrarily be determined as “mistakes”. This way they can reject or accept you on a whim.

      It’s like passing a ton of arbitrary laws that could never be completely enforced, but are useful for letting police harass people if they want to.

      1. In defense of form rejections, as stupid as this sounds, there are often personal and legal repercussions for making exceptions to such errors and omissions. It’s not just a bunch of autistic bureaucrats who want to make life impossible for you.

        In the case of government forms (I consider this inexcusable), the govt often makes their regs vague on purpose so they have more latitude to accept and reject paperwork in difficult situations.

        1. As much as government forms suck balls and are totally bullshit, people also suck at reading all of the directions on virtually anything. People tend to read half of emails, half of the directions, half of warnings, etc. People typically read just enough to get the jist because people are morons.

          1. Yep, retards all the way down.

            (Or slightly less snarky, watching the public deal with government bureaucrats is like watching preschoolers pretend to run a government agency.)

          2. Exactly. Don’t bother asking more than one question in an email (and preferably don’t put anything more than that single question). If you do, all you’re going to get in response is a half-assed answer to the first question you ask and a lot of frustration because that’s all there is.

            1. God. I remember my time in the Navy.

              “OK, I need you to go do A, B, and C. You must do them in that order, A, B, and then C. It won’t work unless you do it in that order. Let me know when you’re done”

              Half a day later I’m wondering what’s taking so damn long.

              “Oh, I can’t get C to work.”

              “Did you do A, B, and C?”

              “You didn’t tell me to do B.”

              *facepalm*

              1. A: Ready

                B: Aim

                C: Fire

              2. This hits close to home. So. Fucking. True.

          3. You should have given us some examples of what kinds of things people suck at reading.

          4. Yes….This is so true = People tend to read half of emails, half of the directions, half of warnings, etc.

            What I have observed over the last couple of decades is more people just ‘zoning out’ a lot more: on the highway, walking down the sidewalk, standing in line, reading mortgage application forms, online survey respondents, etc. It is really f’ing irritating.

            And critical thinking and reasoning skills? Put them on the endangered species list because both are in very short supply these days.

            1. Its so sad because it really causes more time to be wasted. If people just read shit all the way through there would be less confusion and more efficiency.

          5. I agree!
            Well I agree with 1/2 I read.

        2. . . . there are often personal and legal repercussions for making exceptions to such errors and omissions. It’s not just a bunch of autistic bureaucrats who want to make life impossible for you.

          Well, yeah, it is. Just because the bureaucrat who rejected your form was following the rules set by higher level bureaucrats doesn’t change that. *Those* guys were the autistic bureaucrats who want to make life impossible for you. They’re just insulated from direct contact by another layer.

    2. Companies and government rejecting forms I reckon is fairly common.

      Fill out the red tape forms as proper and stop complaining and arguing over every possible piece of minutiae for fuck sakes.

      If it says print your full name. PRINT YOUR FUCKEN FULL NAME.

      1. I have a brother-in-law named Ronnie and when he has to fill out a form they’ll invariably dismissively shove the form back at him and tell him he has to put his “real, legal name, the one on your birth certificate” on the form and when he tells them it’s “Ronnie” they’ll roll their eyes at what a stupid idiot he is and ask him what “Ronnie” is short for – and then he has to pull out his birth certificate and point out that “Ronnie” isn’t short for anything, it’s his actual legal name.

        1. This is almost as bad as the issue with middle names. A lot of forms require you to put one and exactly one middle name. Well, what do you do if you don’t have exactly one middle name? What if you’ve got none or two, or more?

          This goes back to the central theme of government. Government cannot tolerate diversity and is designed to get rid of it. Diversity gets rejected, fined, jailed or worse.

          1. Funny you say that, my spanish wife has a lengthy name (multiple middle names). I saw that a lot in South America. And some of the traditionalists hyphenate their family name with their mother’s maiden name. It can be a problem.

          2. Heh, my wife is from the Philippines; Tradition there is that the kids get the mother’s maiden name as their middle name. (Must make life a lot easier for genealogists!) So, that’s what my wife’s middle name is, her mother’s maiden name.

            For some reason the immigration services took exception to this. She had to immigrate with a hyphenated last name, or some such BS, and then file paperwork afterwards to get it corrected.

            So I’ve got some sympathy here. The problem is, over and over and over, I read accounts like this in Reason, and if I go to the original source material, I find they’ve omitted some really, really critical detail.

            So, going on a hunt, I find Yolanda didn’t just omit her son’s middle name. That was among the reasons her application was rejected. What were the other reasons? I haven’t a clue, all the accounts I can find are from Yolanda’s perspective, probably because the immigration services aren’t allowed to comment on cases for privacy reasons.

            I wish I could trust Reason to be giving a reasonably complete account of what happened here, but… that’s not their track record.

            1. “The problem is, over and over and over, I read accounts like this in Reason, and if I go to the original source material, I find they’ve omitted some really, really critical detail.

              So, going on a hunt, I find Yolanda didn’t just omit her son’s middle name. That was among the reasons her application was rejected. What were the other reasons? I haven’t a clue, all the accounts I can find are from Yolanda’s perspective, probably because the immigration services aren’t allowed to comment on cases for privacy reasons.

              I wish I could trust Reason to be giving a reasonably complete account of what happened here, but… that’s not their track record.”

              Holy shit, this. And I don’t remember that they used to be this way.

              It turns people away from your side when they dig further and find bad news about your position. It makes people wonder what else were you hiding. People hate being lied to, and lies of omission count.

              Just tell the bad stuff at the same time. Put a better spin on it. But don’t omit it entirely, and expect people to not be able to find it on their own.

      2. Fun fact, in the USA there is no Constitutional or legal requirement to ever use a “legal name”.

        New Immigrants used names they made up or altered their birth names when coming to the USA for various reasons.

        You will notice that courts started offering “name change” petitions to imply that you cannot change your name yourself. Of course, after 9/11 the government finally was able to scare Americans into accepting the National ID card (drivers license) and that you cannot get copies of vital records without some government issued ID (which of course requires a birth certificate and your legal name).

        Even the IRS does not really care what your name is as long as each real person who earns income, pays taxes on that earned income. You can use a SSN, ITIN, EIN….

        1. Is that why you tell everyone you’re an Indian and state your name as Bull Shitting?

          1. I’m not from India.

            Poor unreason staff. Following me around like a little puppy dog.

            1. I’m not from India.

              Pardon me. Injun.

      3. Except not everyone has a middle name. I had a friend without a middle name, and when they told her she can’t leave the form blank she wrote “none”

        Guess what they printed on her (now supposedly legal) driver’s license?

      4. Not everyone has three names.

        And what do you do with a form for three names when you have 4 or 5?

        What do you do with a form that wants your ‘last name’ when, in the culture you come from, your last name is your first name?

        1. They’ve gotten a little better about specifying given vs. family name instead of first vs. last name… but not by much. Middle name(s) or the lack thereof will foil bureaucratic understanding forever.

    3. It has been grounds for rejection for more than a decade. I remember the notice clearly stated when I sponsored my wife.

  3. Pointing out that conventional wisdom is often wrong and asking people to think a little before freaking out is good and worthwhile.

    WHEN WILL BOEHM ATONE FOR THIS UNCONSCIONABLE HOT TAKE

    1. Is it ironic that we have the south park moral panic piece in the same moral panic piece over filling out forms incorrectly?

      1. Isn’t it ironic that Jesse expresses moral panic over an article about moral panic?

        1. Wow you’re dumb. Your comment makes no sense at all as I wasn’t attempting a moral panic.

          At least sqrsly owns his idiocy. I doubt you even recognize yours.

          1. Nah he got you pretty fuckin good.

            Are you founding Libertarians for Bureaucracy now? The amount of utterly un-libertarian things that this admin has you defending is hilarious.

            1. Jesse is not a libertarian. He is a Team Red water carrier who comes here to attempt to proselytize us into supporting the Trump Cult.

              1. Meanwhile you talk to yourself.

            2. “De Oppresso Liber
              February.14.2020 at 12:36 pm
              Nah he got you pretty fuckin good”

              Shorter DOL “I dont know what moral panic means”

        2. “Chipper Morning Wood
          February.14.2020 at 11:16 am
          Isn’t it ironic that Jesse expresses moral panic”

          Shorter DOL

          “In my rush to for a gotcha on someone who consistently and successfully points out how stupid I am, I ignore what a moral panic actually is and just ejaculate dumb all over”

  4. D.C. moves to legalize food trucks and bottled-water peddlers near the mall.

    Let’s think about this from the other side. At some point they were illegal. Willing participants in these commercial exchanges were prohibited by law from choosing to exchange funds for goods that are perfectly legal from other sources. In many ways, the Founders were very shortsighted.

    1. D.C. moves to legalize food trucks and bottled-water peddlers near the mall.

      Land of the free, right here.

  5. it seems impossible to overstate the cultural damage done by SOUTH PARK

    Sheesh, Dana — get a grip!

    1. Global warming, nazis, income inequality and South Park. Oh my!

      Haha.

  6. Some well-known universities have been caught receiving funding from China, including Harvard University, which has received $93.7 million from China since 2013, according to the analysis.

    The University of Southern California ($67.9 million) and the University of Pennsylvania ($67.6 million) received the second and third highest amounts from China, followed by Stanford University ($58.1 million) and New York University ($44.1 million).

    China isn’t the only country pouring millions into American academia, however. The analysis found that U.S. universities received a total of $12 billion in funds originating from outside the United States. Of that amount, $1.8 billion came from Qatar, $1.1 billion from England, $900.9 million from China, $843.2 million from Bermuda, $701.1 million from Saudi Arabia, and $700.5 million from Hong Kong.

    Other American universities benefiting from funding originating in China include the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Arizona State University, and Middle Tennessee State University.

    1. Harvard and Yale universities are under investigation by the U.S. Education Department for potentially failing to report gifts and contributions they received from countries including China and Saudi Arabia.

      Yale may not have disclosed at least $375 million over the last four years and Harvard may lack appropriate controls to track money it receives, the department said in a statement Wednesday.

      1. Not surprised, I still haven’t forgotten the headlines awhile back about Cuba trying to convert American professors into propagandists. Thing about being the superpower in the world is everyone wants to control what your next generation believes.

        1. VIDEO: Students trust communist Chinese government over Trump, U.S. intel

          https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13297

          1. The only good thing that has come out of this is that all of my competition in the job market is laughable. It’s so easy to get a high paying job when my only competitors are total morons that can’t even show up on time.

            1. Perhaps they’re too stressed out by global warming to function properly in a corporate slave situation. You should have some empathy.

              Haha

    2. Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

      Could they please give some of that money to Lovie Smith so he can buy a new wardrobe and take a shower so he doesn’t look like a homeless guy on the sideline?

      1. They’re too busy funding AI research. They’re over 19 years behind schedule.

    3. Yeah, that pivot to China has not worked out well for American national interests, has it? The deeper we dig, the more bullshit from China we find. And they’re not alone.

      It looks terrible….but is it legal, what these universities are doing?

      1. is it legal, what these universities are doing?

        Yes.

        1. No.

          Or to be more specific, you *can* legally be a paid agent of a foreign country, even a hostile foreign country where you’ll actually be working with their intelligence services, like China. But you have to report this. You can’t do it secretly, the way these universities were.

  7. …had asked the agency “if gamers who purchased or earned in-game currencies would have to disclose that on their 2019 tax returns.”

    You will though have to register your battle armaments to the ATF.

    1. You will though have to register your battle armaments to the ATF.

      I wanna know when the IRS is gonna stop treating my Constructor/Ninja clan as second-class citizens, observe our human rights, and let us file jointly. It isn’t the 70s for chrissakes, our society has made great advancements towards Ninja equality and there’s no reason, in 2020, a Ninja and a Constructor shouldn’t be able to get married.

      1. No one is stopping Ninjas from marrying Ninjas. There are very good societal reasons why same-class marriages are supported by government.

      2. You sound just like Cartman. Haha

  8. “How the Government Is Using Nonsense Rules to Keep Out Immigrants”

    Oh. My. God.

    We are literally living in Nazi Germany. How is Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch supposed to hire people now?!

    1. *Grammar* Nazi Germany, anyway.

      1. To be fair, German is the easiest language in which to be a grammar Nazi.

        1. God youre constantly trying SOOOO hard and evrything you post is stupid. You even tried to turn “complain” into “moral panic” because you were desperate for a gotcha

    2. BTW, Charles Koch has already lost well over a billion dollars this year.

      So you see, Drumpf’s white nationalist policies don’t just harm immigrants. They also harm people with $60,000,000,000 net worths by preventing them from reaching $70,000,000,000 or $80,000,000,000 where they belong.

      #HowLongMustCharlesKochSuffer?

    3. For those of us old enough, Hogan’s Heroes is example enough to realize that we have lost our ever-loving minds.

      For those who didn’t live through the 70’s and earlier, it was a common trope on TV and in movies to show just how evil enemy governments like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were by demonstrating their intrusive and banal bureaucratic control over every day life. A Nazi officer ordering our heroes “Giff me your papers!!” as they attempted to traverse the town drove the point home. Similar intrusions on Soviet citizens were common in film.

      Every single American knew that could never happen here. Not in the land of the Free. We would never tolerate that. Our constitution would never tolerate that.

      Now we put up with invasions of our privacy that would give Hitler and Stalin a woodie. And we not only tolerate, but actually demand more intrusion into our travel plans than any Nazi era German ever had to put up with.

      We seem to have arrived at Orwell’s perpetual state of war as well.

      I’d love to see a time capsule version of Barry Goldwater and George McGovern from 1970 brought forward to today to comment on the society they find. Polar opposites at the time, I dare say they’d be speaking with one (shocked) voice about what we’ve become.

      1. This bureaucracy is okey-dokey, though, because it aligns with Trump’s mission of keeping icky brown people out of the country.

        1. This stupidity is okwey-dokey, though, because it’s TDS-soaked.

          1. Again, Sevo has absolutely nothing to say, but says it anyway.

            1. So you’re upset he’s stealing your schtick?

      2. In the 70’s the idea of government tracking your moves was outrageous. Now we are eager to buy the latest and greatest personal tracking devices. The idea of government listening into your home was outrageous. Now people flock to buy devices that listen.

        1. In the 70’s the very idea of “universal healthcare” was easily tossed on the scrap heap by the simple invocation of “National ID card”. Really, even that slight association with how things were run in Communist and Fascist states was enough to kill the whole idea.

          Now we let some high school dropout fondle our bits before getting on a plane to visit grandma.

    4. If there was an OpenBordersLiberal-tarian drinking game, we’d all die of alcohol poisoning.

      1. Yeah, he needs to mix it up a little.

  9. A federal judge won’t grant an injunction against California’s awful new employment regulation, A.B. 5.

    “You voted for these dipshits. Enjoy.”

  10. WASHINGTON—Gov. Gavin Newsom should immediately fire California Public Employees Retirement System (CalPERS) Chief Investment Officer Yu Ben Meng because of his “long and cozy relationship with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), according to Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.).

    In a Feb. 12 letter to Newsom, Banks pointed out that, with $360 billion in assets, CalPERS is the biggest public employee pension program in the United States and it has a long history of “shareholder activism,” in which officials leverage the fund’s wealth to influence corporate and government policies around the world.

    “Mr. Meng was hired as the deputy CIO of China’s State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE) in 2015. SAFE is a Chinese Communist Party agency responsible for managing $3 trillion in state-owned assets,” Banks told Newsom.

    “Mr. Meng, who first moved to the United States at 25, told the Chinese newspaper People’s Daily regarding his return to China, that ‘in a person’s life, if there is an opportunity to work for the motherland, this responsibility and honor is unmatched by anything.’”

    1. If they ever investigate payoffs from China, we’ll need to build more jails.

  11. Since when is ‘Populism’ connected to ‘Mob rule’?

    1. It is kinda implied by the name, at least a bit.

      But I always thought of populism as a method of grabbing political power through demagoguery, particularly when resulting in the imposition of restrictions on freedoms and the growth of government power.

      Now, Trump has definitely used some of these techniques in his anti-illegal immigration stance. Talk of crime and disease is as old as immigration itself, and has been used by politicians every time there is a large uptick in immigration.

      But this is different in one aspect – he has not advocated revoking or intruding upon any freedoms. He is pushing for the enforcement of existing immigration law…. something every politician in the last 40 years has agreed upon (every one saying “from *now* onward, we’ll stop illegal immigration”). And it is inarguable that the current “allow large numbers of illegals to come in and work illegally but don’t have a way for them to become legal” is the worst possible solution. It harms immigrants and the rule of law and the employer/labor balance.

      I’m not sure if any other areas of Trump’s persona could be deemed populist. I suppose the repeated self-aggrandizement could be part of that genre.. but it is only a more crass version of what Obama did so skillfully, and nobody called him a populist.

      But the immigration fight has to be among the dumbest in history. There should be no argument that opines that enforcing existing immigration law as written is “racist”. That’s just stupid. If you want to change the existing quota systems, simply advocate for that. Advocating for unlimited illegal immigration and second class citizen status for millions of Latinos is the racist solution.

      And the fastest way to get approval from more people for a change in immigration policy would be to cut off the spigot of illegal immigrant labor. Large sectors of the economy would howl and demand changes to allow access to the labor they need.

      In a way this stupid immigration non-debate filled with name-calling is like the abortion debate. It is clear that both parties would much rather have the issue to rile people up with than having a resolution to the dispute.

      1. Very good points, Cyto. You are killing it today.

      2. “Advocating for unlimited illegal immigration and second class citizen status for millions of Latinos is the racist solution.”

        Leave Nick alone! He’s old and that jacket doesn’t so shit in the winter.

      3. “But this is different in one aspect – he has not advocated revoking or intruding upon any freedoms. He is pushing for the enforcement of existing immigration law…. something every politician in the last 40 years has agreed upon (every one saying “from *now* onward, we’ll stop illegal immigration”). And it is inarguable that the current “allow large numbers of illegals to come in and work illegally but don’t have a way for them to become legal” is the worst possible solution. It harms immigrants and the rule of law and the employer/labor balance.”

        You were making good points, up until this paragraph. The Muslim Ban refutes all of this.

        1. There was no Muslim ban you lying sack lololllol

          1. It’s pretty easy to ask one’s self if Muslim’s per se were actually banned and notice that Muslim’s from other countries were allowed to enter. Therefore not a ban against Muslims specifically. But I guess that’s too hard for some people.

      4. …As does the family separation policy.

        1. IIRC, a judge ruled that you could not have the kids confined with the adults.

          1. And it happened many years before Trump took office.

    2. Isn’t that democracy? I still find the distinction between democracy and populism to be nothing but a matter of tone

      1. Democracy is when you’re one of the wolves. Populism is when you’re the sheep.

    3. Since always?

  12. Still running now after a year of winnowing: Eight candidates.

    Seven of them are wasting everyone’s time.

  13. Couple quarantine themselves over fears of coronavirus

    Who’s with them?! If it might help save just one life, aren’t we obligated to try?

      1. I was very sad when Spread By Cats broke up.

        1. I saw them at the Palladium in ’86 when they opened for the Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldiers.

        2. God nothing you post is ever funny. And you try SOOO hard.

  14. Failing to provide a family member’s middle name—or leaving any space blank—on an immigration form is now sufficient grounds for government officials to reject it.

    BREAKING NEWS: Bureaucracy sucks.

  15. Failing to provide a family member’s middle name—or leaving any space blank—on an immigration form is now sufficient grounds for government officials to reject it.

    You mean, the government mistreats people with petty bureaucratic bullshit? Gee, who could have seen that coming? Heh, apparently not the people who believe the government should be in charge of everything. Just wait until those government fucksticks are running health care!

    1. And just wait until you’re required to fill out your healthcare forms using THE APP!!

      1. Oh holy shit! I didn’t think of that!

  16. On immigration. I’m all kinds confused.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2146

    “This bill establishes that the maximum number of refugees admitted each fiscal year shall be no less than 95,000 and that the maximum number shall be treated as the numerical goal for refugee admissions for the applicable fiscal year. The President may set a higher number if it is justified by humanitarian concerns or is otherwise in the national interest.

    Currently, the number admitted each fiscal year may not exceed 50,000 unless the President determines that a higher number is justified by humanitarian concerns or is otherwise in the national interest.

    The bill directs the President to take into consideration information from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees when establishing the maximum admission number and making certain other related decisions. The President shall report to Congress quarterly on (1) the number of refugees admitted during the preceding quarter, (2) the number of aliens who were security-cleared during the preceding quarter, (3) a plan to reach the numerical goal for admitted refugees for that fiscal year, and (4) other related information.”

    That doesn’t sound anti-immigration to me. Unless I’m missing something.

    Which is highly likely.

    1. I like the setting of a maximum that is actually a minimum and punting entirely on what the actual number should be. It is almost perfect government doublespeak.

  17. Happy Valentine’s Day from Remy and Reason TV…

    I heart Remy and Bragg.

    1. While I ship Remy and Bragg like any good Reason reader, I still hope Bragg and Heaton will get back together.

  18. The numbers the Chinese government are reporting on the spread of the coronavirus are raising eyebrows again. Two points:

    1) One more time with feeling: If it behooves the Chinese government to fudge the figures, they will fudge the figures, whether it’s GDP or an infection rate. They don’t stop manipulating data meant for public consumption just because it’s intended for an international audience, and manipulating the data for public consumption is what they do. Cows go moo. Ducks go quack. Nike sells shoes. And the Chinese government manipulates data for public consumption.

    2) Even if they were trying to go honest, sometimes data collection is hampered by other problems. For instance, you can’t report more infections than you have test kits. I understand that particle masks have been in short supply, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they kits they need to collect samples for testing were in short supply, too. Why would you keep 100 million test kits in storage? That’s expensive.

    1. “BEIJING—Chinese authorities identified 5,090 new coronavirus cases, a new jump in their daily tally that has stirred concerns over the trajectory of the disease and has raised fresh worries over whether China is offering an accurate appraisal of the epidemic’s scope.”

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/1-716-chinese-health-workers-infected-by-coronavirus-six-health-workers-dead-11581668705?

    2. It’s all conspiracy territory right now, but the estimates I’ve read about put the number of infected at 1m and deaths in the tens of thousands.

    3. Didn’t they just change their reporting criteria in response to 2)? I heard yesterday that they were just assuming anyone with several COVID-19 symptoms actually had the disease now because they just don’t have enough test kits to tell for sure. That’s why there was a sudden jump in cases and deaths yesterday. Propagating that jump backwards in time was left as an exercise for the rest of us, though.

      1. They’ve probably been busy manufacturing test kits, I’m sure, and they can’t confirm cases they can’t test because of the lack of test kits.

        This thing isn’t over.

        Incidentally, if the trade war wasn’t already enough to entice American companies to diversify their supply chains away from China, this virus must have put plenty of American companies over the top on that.

        From a Trump reelection perspective (and what other perspective matters!), this may be good news and bad news. The bad news is that this will slow the economy down to some extent–maybe enough to hurt his chances. The good news is that moving some jobs to the U.S. maybe seems like a great idea right about now.

        The other big drag on the economy is Boeing, but the worst of that may be confined to states, like California and Washington, that were already set to go blue anyway.

        1. On the Boeing front, I am astonished that they have not been able to fix this problem. I know they’ve grown fat on the government teat, and have been alone in the front of the aviation industry for long enough to become complacent, even in the face of a heavily subsidized European competitor. But they have a huge number of very competent engineers on staff. This Dreamliner thing must be a nearly fatal flaw if they can’t figure a way around it.

          1. They must not trust their own processes or people at the moment.

            1. It seems like there were reports that they were close to a software patch when a larger review found a boatload of problems. I didn’t read the whole article though, so that might not be entirely correct. We all know that the Headline and Lede are all most people bother with, so you toss any spin you want to get across in there, and bury the facts way down deep in the bottom 25%.

          2. I think the problem is that they were trying to sell the plane as a modified version of an existing platform rather than as a new plane because of the regulatory cost difference between the two things and trying to push the envelope without breaking it proved to be an impossible task. Boeing needs to just face up to the fact that if they want to go forward with the new plane they’re going to have to start over from scratch and weigh the cost/benefit from there.

            It reminds me of a story I’d seen some time back about a restaurant that wasn’t doing so well until the owner cane up with the great idea of installing a bunch of hot tubs up on the roof and how this was now a hot new “concept” restaurant. My only thought was I hope like hell that guy consulted a building engineer before he did that or at least had an ethical plumber who could explain to him how much a cubic foot of water weighs and the difference between a floor truss and a roof truss.

            1. “I think the problem is that they were trying to sell the plane as a modified version of an existing platform rather than as a new plane because of the regulatory cost difference between the two things and trying to push the envelope without breaking it proved to be an impossible task.”

              To be fair, the 737 Max works fine. Provided the pilots are able to ignore the autopilot trying to kill them in fairly rare instances—sometimes due to single-point-of-failure critical systems in the angle of attack measurement and display subsystem—and successfully hand fly the airplane. Most US trained pilots can do that.

              A lot of foreign operations however, don’t train their pilots as much in manually flying the airplane, although they are proficient in managing the airplane and the various autopilot and navigational systems. See, for example, the Asiana crash at SFO where an umpteenth thousands of hours Captain still managed to land short of the runway in perfect weather because he took the autopilot off and lacked the awareness to realize he was lower than glideslope and too slow. Plus their CRM was so bad, none of the other flight crew who might not have had their heads up their asses, felt like disagreeing with the very senior captain. The Max has killed two sets of those kinds of crews: Lion Air #610 and Ethiopian Airlines #302.

          3. The Dreamliner is having issues now? I’d heard about the abortion that was the 737 Max program, but I’d not heard the Dreamliner was giving them fits too.

            1. My bad. I was reading about Starliner, Starship and Crew Dragon immediately before posting and apparently fried a couple of circuits.

    4. So Ken….Just curious. Very shortly here in the US, we will start seeing more COVID-19 cases. The CDC is telling us this is coming, and there is not a way to stop it. Here is exactly what CDC says: More cases are likely to be identified in the coming days, including more cases in the United States. It’s also likely that person-to-person spread will continue to occur, including in the United States.

      Q: If we later find that that China engineered this virus and Americans die from it, what is our response?

      1. Sue the fuck out of them for damages. 6 billion plaintiffs.

  19. http://legalinsurrection.com/2020/02/jittery-democrats-fear-bernie-sanders-could-cost-them-the-house-of-representatives/

    Democrats fear Bernie winning the nomination could cost them the House. Republicans said the same thing about Trump in 2016. The difference is that Trump was a center right candidate who was slandered by the establishment as an extremist. So, once the country saw who Trump actually was, Republicans and Independents voted for him just like they would have any other center right candidate. Bernie in contrast really is a nut. So, the warnings about the dire down ticket effects of him winning the nomination are likely true.

    1. I read if he gets the nod, the loss could be worse than McGovern.

      Only burnt toast California and New York will sink with the blue ship.

      1. Hmm, how about a new governing system: any state that goes for a specific presidential candidate actually enjoys the next 4 years with that candidate as “their” president.

        In your scenario, CA and NY would be part of a federal system administered by Bernie, while the rest of the country would be run by the Trump administration. Would be entertaining.

    2. It will gain them votes in San Francisco. It’ll probably be a wash in NY, and the rest of the country I don’t know. Depends how well the propaganda has sunk in.

      1. Bernie would be a disaster. Poll after poll shows that a large majority of the country rejects socialism. It would be one thing if Trump had gotten us into a big war or the economy was collapsing. But, those things are not happening and are unlikely to happen between now and November. The country isn’t going to vote for a socialist over an incumbent who has largely delivered peace and prosperity. Socialism becomes a real danger when times are bad.

        1. if Trump had gotten us into a big war or the economy was collapsing

          There’s still time!

          1. Another five years?

        2. I still think Bernie is the only Dem candidate who would stand a chance against Trump. Bloomberg would do the worst.

        3. On the other hand, we’ll have a steady diet of all of the major news outlets explaining to us that calling Bernie a socialist or communist is “fake news”, and any suggestions that he would do any of the things he is on tape saying he would do is also “Fake news”.

          I have already run into this problem. I participate in a couple of space and science forums. Someone asked a question about the effect of a Sanders presidency on NASA and space exploration. I opined that the effect would be profound, as a Sanders presidency would not only have priorities elsewhere (Bernie’s exact words), his policy of confiscation of wealth and government control would mean that there never would have been a spaceX. Or Blue Origin. Because “no one needs a billion dollars”. Without F.U. money, Bezos and Musk could not be ushering in the new space age. (also, no Tesla, no electric car revolution. Only the GM EV-1 and it’s government sponsored offspring)

          the Bernie bro’s showed up in force. They hammered talk of Bernie being a socialist as “fake news”. Video of him claiming the communist mantle… “Fake news”. They sang from the same songbook… Bernie is pro-science (as all democratic socialists are). So any suggestion that his policies would harm space exploration is a lie cooked up by corporate shills.

          It was a well-coordinated attack, with at least 5 people pretending to be from Scandinavian countries and ridiculing “right wing Americans” for talking about Democratic Socialism from pure ignorance. No amount of direct quotes from Sanders would sway the mob.

          That’s what will await. Just like Hillary’s transgressions were entirely papered over by “the establishment”, so Bernie’s obvious proclivities will be papered over. I’m quite sure they feel like they can control Bernie a lot easier than they can control Trump. Of course, they are wrong about that… .the guy is true to his ideology and unapologetic about it. ‘

          But don’t worry. That’s not gonna happen. CNN and NBC are already carefully putting a toe in the Bloomberg water. CNN was running cover for his ‘racist’ comments about stop and frisk the last couple of days. You see, the guy who released that tape was a Bernie supporter…. so the whole thing is suspect and totally taken out of context.

          1. I think the coolest thing I’ve seen, at least one of, was the two rockets landing on their own. Scandinavia didn’t do that.

          2. Bernie supporters are some of the nastiest people on the internet.

    3. After Super Tuesday, the field will start winnowing down to two camps: The champion of the radicals and the champion of the moderates.

      It isn’t just that people start giving up because their chances of winning dwindle after losing in California and Texas on the same day. It’s also that few donors want to back a loser, and once it becomes clear you won’t win, you won’t get the money you need anymore.

      I’m using Texas as a laboratory for what’s likely to happen with Democrats who are more moderate than Democrats in California and New York, to see where they’re going, and when I look at the trends on 538, it looks like the future of the Democratic party is Bloomberg.

      https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/texas/

      Sanders is clobbering Warren to be the champion of the moderates, and Bloomberg is benefiting from the collapse of Biden. I don’t expect Sanders to win Texas. If you graph the momentum, rather than the absolute numbers at this point, you might bet on Bloomberg to win Texas. At this point, I expect the Democratic nominee is most likely to be Bloomberg.

      It wouldn’t surprise me to see Bloomberg win the nomination and see him put Warren on the ticket as vice president.

      1. I think Bloomberg winning the nomination might split the party worse than Bernie winning it. Nominating Bloomberg would be the tech barons and big money people pissing all over the Bernie bros and telling them to like it. I think the Bernie bros would bolt and go third party in droves if Bloomberg is the nominee.

        I think Bloomberg might be the nominee but it will be just as big of a disaster as Bernie being the nominee would be. At this point I think Klouchbar is probably their best bet. She isn’t as toxic as Bernie but is left enough that the Bernie Bros would be a lot more likely to accept her than they would Bloomberg.

        1. So what’s wrong with a third (or fourth) party?

          1. They have little impact on defeating Trump’s reelection, and their only important impact over the long term is that they’ll be able to influence one of the two larger parties to adopt their platform.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

        2. Bloomberg won’t represent a rift with radicals as bad as you might think. It’s sort of like the Ron Paul kids railing against McCain in 2008 or Romney in 2012–not enough to effect the outcome of an election, especially if he puts someone like Warren on the ticket.

          Warren’s “credentials” have to do with going after Wall Street for the Obama administration. Meanwhile, the media in New York and New York City, particularly, will be all behind Bloomberg. Having a woman on the ticket, especially Liz Warren, would not only make him seem woke compared to Trump-Pence but would also water down criticism of Bloomberg’s ties to Wall Street.

          . . . and the chances of the media going after Warren for being a hypocrite on billionaires is about the same as the media going after her hypocrisy on claiming Native American heritage to get a position at Harvard. Regardless of whether he picks Warren to be his running mate on a unity ticket, however, he’s the one that’s benefiting from the fall of the other moderates–like Biden.

          If Sanders +Warren can’t get more than 30% of the vote in Texas, then Sanders might take Texas by a plurality, but once all the other moderates drop out, that means 70% of Democrats are more or less moderate–and they’ll line up behind the last moderate standing, who looks like it’s going to be Bloomberg. If Bloomberg wins in Texas, which I expect to happen, it’ll happen much quicker.

          P.S. I had a typo up top calling Sanders a moderate.

          1. You forget how much Texas does not like New York, and Bloomberg is synonymous with everything wrong with New York.

            1. Once again, look at the numbers at 538. I’m just going by my eyes.

              https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/texas/

              Bloomberg’s rise neatly matches Biden’s fall. Biden’s only argument was that he was the most electable to beat Trump. Unfortunately for Biden, he keeps losing, and it’s hard to make the argument that you’re the most electable when you keep losing elections. Those people who are looking for an electable, relatively moderate alternative to Biden are going to Bloomberg–and Bloomberg has the money to go the distance in both California and Texas at the same time.

              If you’re saying that Texans don’t like a New Yorker, I appreciate that, and Trump lost to Cruz in the Texas primary in 2016. What if the alternative is Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders is a socialist from New England, and . . . if the contest were between a New Yorker and some radical from Ohio or something, being a New Yorker would hurt Bloomberg more. If Bloomberg is the alternative to a Yankee communist in Texas, and . . . um . . . we’ll just leave it at that, then the New Yorker still has the edge.

              1. If your entire pitch is “I can beat trump but I can’t articulate any other reason for voting for me” I’m sorry it’s not going to fly with the type of people who vote in primaries. Biden is a perfect example of this. Bloomberg has yet to even appear on a ballot I’ll believe it when I see it.

                1. Bloomberg is just like Biden national poll darling and paper tiger, maybe he wins FL but he’s too late imho.

              2. Barry Sanders would absolutely win in Texas. They love them some football, and Barry Sanders was an all-time great.

                1. Bernie, Barry, Chuck Barris, . . .

                  You knew what I meant!

                  1. “”Chuck Barris, . . . “”

                    The Retro vote!

          2. You forgot the current delegate leader…. Mayor Pete. He’s the center right now. Everyone is giving him a look since Sanders and Warren are nuts, and Biden is nonviable. Nobody *wants* Bloomberg. They just see that he’s willing to spend a billion to get the job if that’s what it takes. So he doesn’t have the same dynamic that the others do. There is no “drop out” moment for him.

            I’d say with superdelegates having so much sway, the split vote gives them the final say. Where is the establishment going to come down. The last two runs through this process, they picked their candidate and everyone else dropped out. Who are they gonna pick? Bloomberg? Mayor Pete? Certainly not Bernie.

            1. Anybody else having trouble posting?

              1. yes. I logged out and logged back in. Seemed to work.

          3. Warren is only on the ballot at this point to keep Sander’s numbers down she doesn’t have the money to even make it to super tuesday. People keep on underestimating Sanders.

        3. I know a couple of BernieBros in real life. They hate Bloomberg’s guts precisely because he’s a johnny-come-lately trying to buy the nomination with his billions, they think he’s a racist because of stop-and-frisk, and he’s hilariously positioning himself as a moderate when he’s just parroting the wine mom agenda.

          Bloomberg’s rise, at least in Texas, is directly proportional to Biden’s fall. The establishment Democrats there are driven entirely by tribal considerations, not ideology, and they’re desperate for someone to flip the state because if they do, it’s game over for any Republican. Texas, New York, California, and Illinois are impossible to overcome. That’s a big reason why losers O’Rourke and Wendy Davis got so much press from the MSM.

          1. “Texas, New York, California, and Illinois are impossible to overcome. That’s a big reason why losers O’Rourke and Wendy Davis got so much press from the MSM.”

            And why it’s so surprising to me that someone like Julian Castro didn’t get more pull than he did. It was like even the media didn’t want to cover him. Weird, considering he’s probably as Left or more so than Bernie.

            1. Castro was running for Vice President, not President. Even though he’s an establishment creature and served in Obama’s cabinet, no one outside of San Antonio gives a shit about him. He and his twin brothers are literal La Raza diaper babies (their mom was one of the organization’s founders), so he wouldn’t even win his own state.

              1. He endorsed Warren, so I suspect he’s hoping to get the VP slot if she actually manages to get the nomination (which isn’t likely at this point).

        4. I have a somewhat different take.

          It just feels like the MSM is setting up Mayor Butthead to be the nominee. Young, fast on his feet, conversant with the bible(?), uber-liberal, and very gay. To them, Mayor Butthead is a daring pick. So avante garde. They cannot resist. Mayor Butthead will look at someone like Tulsi for his second banana.

          They just want Mini-Mikey to bankroll 1B in negative ads. Team D could give two shits about Mini-Mikey, they just need his money.

      2. Why does everyone think Bloomberg can just jump in and win a primary. Running an election is hard work it requires money, organization and a base of dedicated voters who actually want to vote for you. Bloomberg has money and organization but not a dedicated set of voters anywhere. Polling is bullshit, I’ll believe it win I see it. Keep in mind where Biden was in the polls in even january. Bloomberg hasn’t acutally been on a ballot yet.

        1. I’m not saying it’s not possible but it’s way more difficult than everyone is making it. In all honesty I think they take it from Bernie at the convention. Which is going to be hilarious.

          1. They’ll job Bernie out of the nomination. They’ll try to hide it like they did last time with Hillary, but if they can’t hide it they’ll do it in the open. If all else fails, just say Bernie isn’t a Democrat, he’s an Independent, and therefore he’s ineligible for the Democratic nom.

            I remember in 2016 there was talk of the GOP trying to find some way of keeping Trump from getting the nomination but they couldn’t find any way under the rules to keep him out. The Dems don’t have the same qualms the GOP has about saying “screw the rules, we don’t need no stinking rules, we’ll make up whatever rules we need as we go along”. Which is of course exactly why Trump won, because the GOP still has their attachment to rules and customs and principles that means they’d rather lose with honor and dignity than *gasp* fight dirty. Had they been willing to do what it takes to win, they wouldn’t have had to deal with Trump because they wouldn’t have needed to deal with him.

            1. The media carrying the water for that jobbing is going to be the funniest spinning of all time. Twitter and possibly Milwaukee are going to be lit.

              1. Twitter and possibly Milwaukee are going to be lit. Literally, in the case of Milwaukee. You’ll probably be able to see the fires from the ISS.

            2. Hell, they’re not even trying to hide it this time.

        2. We are in Super Tuesday country. Bloomberg is everywhere on TV. Has been for more than a month. Nobody else is on TV here at all.

          His ads are 100% attack on Trump, with a handwave to Bloomberg gets things done at the end. But the front and the tagline are “I am running to defeat Donald Trump”. He is making the play to the core DNC voter that he is the only one who can beat Trump. And he’s betting that this is the only thing they are pulling the lever for. (a perfectly fine reason to pull the lever in the general, but a damned stupid reason to pull it in a primary where Trump is not a candidate)

          1. We’ll see the media would hate to see a sanders win as would the dem establishment but he’s the odds on favorite for a reason. He’s got money, organization and a group of fanatics that would crawl over glass to vote for him. If you think the Warrenites aren’t going to jump ship to him after she drops out or will jump ship to Bloomberg it’s not going to happen. This was the same type of shit that Trump dealt with in 2016 where people were talking about his polling ceiling while he kept banking delegates and winning pluralities people kept waiting for the field to narrow and the supporters to go to one of the other contenders. That never happened.

      3. “I don’t expect Sanders to win Texas.”

        I didn’t either, but see…https://www.270towin.com/2020-democratic-nomination/texas-primary

        Sanders is climbing fast. So is Bloomberg.

        1. Yep. Bloomberg’s been doing massive ad blitzes in Texas, and with Biden sinking fast, a lot of Dems are hopping on the Bernie bandwagon right now because he’s proposing what they all want anyway. The only difference might be that Bernie doesn’t have Bloomberg’s gun-grabbing history, but he’ll come around on that if/when he gets the nomination.

          It will be interesting to see how the alignment works out. The Culinary Workers’ union in Las Vegas, which has been a coveted Dem endorsement for years, recently decided against endorsing anyone. They notably are against Medicare For All because they spent so many years fighting to get a gold-plated healthcare plan, and they don’t want to give that up. The BernieBros are slamming them on Twitter because of that, which I suspect isn’t going to endear them to him any further.

          1. Looks like all the old-guard Dems are going to get behind Buttigieg or Bloomberg, while the younger/more radical Dems will support Bernie. Warren will endorse Bernie because her political career will be DOA otherwise.

    4. Got it. Nothing extreme about Trump. No sir.

      1. Plenty stupid here. Yes sir.

      2. Some people seem to imagine the Overton window has shifted much further than it has.

        The idea that recreational marijuana should be legalized used to be extreme.

        The idea that gay people should be free to get married used to be extreme.

        The idea that immigration laws should be enforced, that ObamaCare stinks, that the Green New Deal is crap, that China was taking advantage of American workers, or that Iran represents a legitimate security threat to the United States . . .

        These ideas aren’t extreme.

        They may not all be right, but they’re not extreme.

        1. I don’t think anybody really imagines the Overton window has been pushed that far, it’s just a talking point, like calling everybody a racist white supremacist Nazi, to call everybody to the right of John Kasich, and John Kasich too, a right wing extremist. The idea that there’s no such thing as a left wing extremist is simply laughable to the vast majority of people.

          1. What’s amazing is these people calling these politicians literal nazi’s can’t actually believe it because if they did they’d be resorting to far more drastic actions than harsh language and screaming at the sky or else they are admitting they are cowards and no better than the germans that stood by and watched as hitler marched the jews into ovens.

    5. “Democrats fear Bernie winning the nomination could cost them the House.”

      Wife and another woman (OW being typical SF proggy) were discussing the election; I was staying clear. OW was willing to yield the POTUS, but said the house was safe.
      Too big a target: I said ‘do you think all those people Trump is going to drag to the polls are going to vote D for the house?’.
      She hadn’t considered that aspect.

      1. 30 House Democrats who voted to impeach Trump are running for reelection in districts that voted for Trump in 2016.

        It used to be 31, but one of them changed parties rather than vote to impeach Trump.

        https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/22/politics/van-drew-trump-gop-switch-impeachment/index.html

        You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.
        You don’t spit into the wind.
        You don’t pull the mask of the ol’ Lone Ranger
        And you don’t expect the voters to back you in a district after you just voted to nullify their votes.

        Those people wouldn’t have been allowed to vote for Trump if the Democrats who voted for impeachment had their way.

        Some of them will probably win, but none of those 30 should expect to win.

        1. If it’s Sanders vs Trump we might see an actual house flip and the bottoming out of a party to the lowest point in almost 50 years. Of course that would mean the fucktard republicans would be in charge of more power than they’ve had since Lincoln so it will mean total failure for any real policy getting passed.

          1. It will mean they have more power than they’ve had since George W. Bush’s super-majority–and, yeah, that was a shit show.

            From expanding Medicare to include prescription drug benefits to TARP, the Tea Party movement formed outside the Republican party specifically because the Republicans were the ones shitting the bed.

          2. Britain? Corbyn=Sanders

        2. You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.
          You don’t spit into the wind.
          You don’t pull the mask of the ol’ Lone Ranger
          And you don’t mess around with Jim

          Jim Croce was an awesome singer! Tragic ending, though. Love his songs.

      2. Krugman is now posting pro and bullish on Sanders. “He’s not REALLY a communist” and that the Dems should stand with Bernie.

    6. Watching Democrats freak out about The Rise of Bernie reminds me of Frankenstein.

      1. Reminds me of the Red Guard.

    7. I kind of think they might not win the House if they screw Bernie over, and all of those motivated D voters say, “Fuck It!”, and go light up another bowl.

      Again, were I running the Party—I wouldn’t have time to post here, and I’d be a lot richer—I’d let the kids have their fun. Nobody is beating Trump, absent the Wuhan Death Flu tanking the US economy, so let the lunatics have free rein. Tell them to be sure to vote Straight D while they’re in the booth. The rank and file, encourage them to show up and vote for candidates they believe in, i.e., everybody who isn’t a sworn Marxist.

      Bernie will get stomped. The kids will pout, cry, and maybe do something that will get many of them arrested and/or kicked out of the party, and the adults can try to retake control. All the while trusting in demographics to give them the long term victory. Maybe even starting in 2024…

  20. Facebook fact checking partner Snopes say yes, Trump is cribbing speeches from Hitler.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/snopes-beclowns-itself-with-awful-confirmation-of-hitlerian-tones-in-trump-tweet/

    Bonus, they totally claim innocence from Godwins law.

    1. Uh huh. All the Snopes article says, if anyone bothered to look at it, is that the German was correctly translated. Good try.

      1. And all the cover article says is you can’t trust Snopes. Bad try.

        1. Actually, the quote some law professor as saying Trump cribbed “fake news” directly from Hitler’s “lying press”.

          As if it needed saying… please hand in your ‘fact check’ card.

          For those who were not alive at the time of the 2016 election, Fake News was used by the left to attack Trump. Specifically by Herself, Hillary Clinton. He very kindly turned it around on them when they started pushing the Russian collusion lie. Of course, none of the people who were purveying that particular bit of fake news have managed to look in the mirror and say “you know what, we were in fact peddling fake news”.

          1. “…He very kindly turned it around on them when they started pushing the Russian collusion lie. Of course, none of the people who were purveying that particular bit of fake news have managed to look in the mirror and say “you know what, we were in fact peddling fake news”.”

            Whoever wrote the Stone article here alluded to ‘Russian interference’ in the ’16 election as if it were proven other than those lame gifs.

            1. That’s all they need … just a fig leaf to hang on to their beliefs.

      2. Yes, if you pare it down to just the snopes article and not the tweets from the owners of Snopes that work in conjunction with the articles they push…

        1. Amazing how far Snopes plunged in credibility over the last five years. It didn’t help having the founders’ personal lives get shown as being a bunch of freaks, but all Trump derangement, all the time, took its toll too.

  21. Another day. Another local news story. Another assault from a liberal against a conservative. This time with a cane sword. Another media silence from the majors.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/florida-man-attacks-trump-supporters-with-a-cane-sword/

    1. Whitehurst confessed to having removed the sword from its holder and pointing it at the Trump supporters. He told police he meant no harm by the threatening action.

      “It was, like, Make America *Fun* Again!”

      1. Waters called for activists to harass members of the Trump administration in public places like gas stations and restaurants. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) encouraged activists to “get up in the face” of Republican candidates and office-holders. Hillary Clinton said Democrats “cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for.” Eric Holder declared, “When they go low, we kick them.”

    2. To be fair, Florida Man does a lot of things to a lot of people for a lot of reasons.

    3. In Florida. Where CCW is legal and easy.

      Guess it’s true that most CHL holders never bother carrying.

  22. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/358220/

    Democrats now the party of incompetence. The old FDR Democratic Machines were corrupt but not so corrupt that they didn’t ensure the trains ran on time and that nice public buildings were built and government succeeded in its basic functions. At some point after the 1960s the Democratic walked away from all that. They stopped caring about government working.

    1. No incompetence among the Republicans. No sirree.

      1. Plenty of lefty bullshit here.

      2. Yeah all the best run cities and states are run by Democrats right?

    2. From the linked article:

      “…Will 50% of the electorate actually believe Democrats today could competently administer a national health-care system in the U.S.?”

      One silver lining to the 20 years of war, is that many Americans are intimately familiar with the existing national healthcare system: The VA. And most people who have to go to the VA, don’t want it extended mandatorily for everyone.

  23. Leftists want the same type of people that run immigration to run your healthcare too.

    1. Open secret: So, Republicans want the government to run your healthcare, too (if you are over 65 years old).

      1. Open secret: New TDSs troll is a pile of shit.

        1. Likely just a new sock puppet of the same people who own the other franchises.

          1. Commie-kid’s sock didn’t show up this morning; this did. Same sort of lefty bullshit, shorter sentences.

    1. Such are the wages of identity politics. I think over the next few years identity politics is going to start to wane as the various identity groups tear each other apart causing more and more people to sour on the idea.

    2. ” frankly, there’s a whole university for y’all to be at. And there’s very few spaces for us.”

      and yet you always find a space right next to us at the movie theater

      /runs away

      1. Which would be fine if you didn’t talk to the screen through the entire movie.

        1. Not gonna lie, I one time went to a movie where it was a majority black audience and they do take audience participation to a whole new level.

    3. Playing the ‘what if a white person’ is kinda old hat….

      But imagine for even one second what the unversity’s reaction would be to a white student who dared make any such statement to any sort of minority whatsoever. Even a Christian Supper Club complaining about an avowed atheist attending would get their charter pulled and probably a suspension or two.

      But random racist “POC” as she self-identifies, caught on tape being overtly racist and exclusionary? That gets a “clarifying” tweet.

      This was confined to campuses 20 years ago. Those graduates have brought that attitude to mainstream politics, and it is driving the backlash that propelled Trump to the front. As long as the DNC remains adherent to these PC principles, the space for a Trump will still exist.

      1. the space for a Trump will still exist.

        Not just exist, but actually grow. I didn’t vote Trump in 2016. I absolutely will this year.

  24. For some very hard-hitting and concrete criticism of Trump’s administration, we hear from a fired lackey:

    “Ex-Ukraine ambassador: State Department leaders lack vision”
    […]
    “The career U.S. diplomat who was ousted from her post in Ukraine by President Donald Trump, then was criticized by him as she testified at his impeachment hearings, warned that the State Department is facing a crisis with senior leaders who lack “vision.”
    […]
    But she noted that the State Department is being “hollowed out” under Trump and that the art of diplomacy has become less of a priority under his administration.
    “Right now, the State Department is in trouble,” Yovanovitch said in accepting the award. “Senior leaders lack policy vision, moral clarity and leadership.””
    https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/world/ex-ukraine/MTF75LQKCO3KS5YSTRLVS2NR7E/

    Whine some more, lady.

    1. Hollowed out of the people who gave us brilliant ideas like we could make the Middle East Democratic. Oh tear

    2. Oooh. “Lackey”.

    3. It’s funny how she thinks this is a bad thing. The last thing we need are a bunch of cowboys with “vision” in the State department trying to orchestrate geopolitics like it’s some game.

      1. Well, it got her fired, so to her, it’s BAD!

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  26. “Barr: Won’t be ‘bullied’ by Trump on Stone case; jurors appalled”
    […]
    “U.S. Attorney General William Barr said on Thursday that President Donald Trump’s attacks on prosecutors, the judge and jurors in the trial of a longtime adviser undermined the Justice Department’s work, adding he would not be “bullied” by anyone….”
    https://news.yahoo.com/slamming-prosecutors-judge-trump-turns-160302760.html

    If I didn’t want to be ‘bullied’ by my boss, the solution was to hit the bricks.
    Does he know who he works for?

    1. He’s just the President, not your boss.

      1. You’re just a fucking TDS troll, not any human worthy of the name.

        1. Barr isn’t wrong. Trump jumping in on his side undermines what was ostensibly a policy based decision and turns it into a political decision, perceptually.

          It is outrageous that they were looking for a decade in jail. It is outrageous that the media continues to claim that he was committing these “crimes” to cover up Trump’s crimes with Russia. (we know for certain that this isn’t so, to the tune of $30 – $45 million). But by jumping in to the fray, Trump makes it all about him, which turns it back into covering for Trump.

  27. Yolanda, a Guatemalan in her 40s, is undocumented. She’s been living in the shadows for more than a decade.

    Isn’t that the actual problem, and not the forms?

    1. Who knew it would be a money pit boondoggle?

      We all did.

      1. I am sure the ROI will be huge, just like the proposed SCORE rail expansion.

        The study predicts that SCORE will create more than 1.3 million jobs through 2050, while the nine-year construction period alone will account for at least 110,000 jobs, paying an average of nearly $64,000 annually.

        The LAEDC study also forecasted that SCORE will increase wages by $185 billion over three decades and boost the region’s economic output by more than $1 trillion.

        1. The Chron, in an editorial masquerading as journalism, had a story on the good a Bloomie-POTUS could bring to CA. Among them was US funding of moon-beam’s choo-choo.

  28. “A newly popular argument is that ‘late capitalism’ has made it too hard to balance life and work, which is causing women to have fewer kids”

    White women get freedom, complain about it. More at 11.

    1. ‘late capitalism’; new lefty nick-name for “prosperity”, worthy of derision and laughter.

  29. Ceasefire in Afghanistan. So when it is Trump that finally gets us out of their how will Reason spin it as a negative?

    1. Trump won’t accept enough Afghan refugees.

    2. That’s assuming he actually gets us out of there. These “ceasefires” are typically complete jokes that get violated within 48 hours because some warlord wants to get in a dick-measuring contest with another warlord.

  30. “Still running now after a year of winnowing: Eight candidates”

    And Hillary Clinton and John Kerry haven’t even entered the race officially yet!

  31. As evidence that the establishment is coming around to Bloomberg….

    I was just in the car. Reading from the wire, the news report tells me that “Mayor Bloomberg is leading in the Sunshine State for the first time. A new poll shows Bloomberg in the lead with 26% of respondents. ..bla-bla about Bloomberg for a while… Joe Biden in second place with 25% of the vote. Biden had been in the lead with 46% in January.”

    It goes on to say Sanders and Mayor Pete are essentially tied for third.

    Now, it didn’t say that Biden and Bloomberg were essentially tied, even though that is well within the margin of error. And it didn’t tell me what the other numbers were….. So it made it sound like Bloomberg is running away with it.

    But he’s been on TV 24/7 in Florida for at least a month and a half. Probably on the air “a lot” for more than 2 months. I have yet to see an ad for any other candidate down here.

    So I don’t want to hear anything about not being able to buy the nomination. Super Tuesday was entirely designed to make sure the big money guys win.

    1. So I looked it up:

      Michael Bloomberg: 27.3%
      Joe Biden: 25.9%
      Undecided: 11.2%
      Pete Buttigieg: 10.5%
      Bernie Sanders: 10.4%
      Amy Klobuchar: 8.6%
      Elizabeth Warren: 4.8%
      Tom Steyer: 1.3%

      The two stories I found did not list a margin of error, but did state 3,000 likely voters, which implies a 5% ish margin of error. Plus the huge fudge factor of how in the hell they determine “likely voter” for a primary.

      1. I was one of the people that wholeheartedly thought that it was impossible to simply buy your way to the presidency. It turns out that Democrats are absolutely willing to be bought.

        1. Steyer’s mistake appears to have been that he entered too early and didn’t spend enough of his own money blanketing critical states in a weeks-long ad blitz.

          1. I’m not sure, but I think Bloomberg has spent more than everyone else put together.

            I do believe he’s already approaching the number that Trump’s campaign spent last go-around.

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