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Texas Police Fatally Shot a Woman in Her Own Home After a Neighbor Asked for a Welfare Check

The neighbor later said, "If I had never dialed the police department, she'd still be alive."

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A Fort Worth police officer shot Atatiana Koquice Jefferson, 28, in Jefferson's own home on Saturday night. Jefferson had been playing video games with her 8-year-old nephew late into the night.

A local NBC affiliate reports that a neighbor contacted the police—using a non-emergency line—to do a welfare check on Jefferson's home. In a recording of the phone call, the neighbor voiced concern that the doors of the house were open and the lights were on. The neighbor confirmed in the call that vehicles belonging to the family were parked in the driveway. But while the family was "usually home" at that time, he felt it wasn't "normal" for the doors to be open so late.

Two officers arrived at the home between 2:20 and 2:30 a.m. 

Body camera footage shows the responding officers walking around the outside of the house with a flashlight. At one point, an officer sees someone in the window, points his flashlight, and tells the person inside, "Put your hands up! Show me your hands!"

A gunshot can be heard immediately after. At no point in the video are the responding officers heard announcing themselves as law enforcement.

The video includes a blurry still of a gun the cops say they found in the house. The police have yet to explain if they saw Jefferson holding the gun or if the gun was even in the same room with her.

(Warning: This video may be disturbing to viewers.)

Fort Worth police have announced that they will investigate the incident. Details of the case are still unfolding, but the footage is enough for family attorney Lee Merritt to call the incident a "murder."

"You didn't hear the officer shout, 'Gun, gun, gun,'" he told NBC. "He didn't have time to perceive a threat. That's murder."

Jefferson's family and community are still stunned by the loss.

"I mean it's senseless. My daughter…had her whole life in front of her," her father, Marquis Jefferson, told CBS. "That's my one and only daughter. I'll never forget that."

Only a week before Jefferson's death, Dallas police officer Amber Guyger, was convicted of murder for entering the wrong apartment and fatally shooting her 26-year-old neighbor Botham Jean. Jean's shooting death occured about half an hour from Fort Worth.

The community is still experiencing the fallout of Jean's death, and now it will now be forced to deal with Jefferson's as well.

James Smith, the neighbor who initially contacted the non-emergency line, has told the local CBS affiliate that he regretted his call.

"If I had never dialed the police department, she'd still be alive," Smith said. "It makes you not want to call the police department."

Police Police Chief Edwin Kraus announced at a Monday press conference that the shooting officer, revealed to be Aaron Dean, resigned that morning.

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121 responses to “Texas Police Fatally Shot a Woman in Her Own Home After a Neighbor Asked for a Welfare Check

  1. Disturbing, but not surprising.

  2. What kind of a fucking busybody prick calls the cops on their neighbor because they have the goddamn door open? It’s too bad they didn’t shoot him while they were at it.

    1. Blame the authoritarian who invented “See something, say something.”

    2. The type of busybody that’s concerned for his neighbors but hasn’t learned that cops will shoot and kill the first object they see moving. There’s no way I’m putting any of this blame on the neighbor. This is 947% on the shoulders of the officer. The other 10,000% is on the department which teaches them to do this.

      1. At least 59% of that 10,000% is the practice of hiring ex WoT soldiers trained to view civilians as the enemy. Ordinary people doing ordinary things are no the enemy. Even unusual people doing unusual things are not the enemy. Non-conformists are not deadly threats.

        The reason the department hires those people is because the citizens of their city want them to. Ultimately it’s the fault of the voters for electing for the scrotal warts that appoint the people who hire these kill happy cops. No one cares until their neighbor gets murdered. But then it’s too late.

        1. I disagree. In the miniseries, created from the book Generation Kill, I believe the reporter took time to note that the real combat marines were alarmed at the aggressive tactics employed by the reserve units that comprised police officers. And I believe Reason made note of this in an article as well.

          When real combat troops are alarmed at how trigger-happy the cops are, knuckle up.

          1. Combat troops are used to dealing with people who can shoot back. Unchecked aggression gets you shot.

        2. From what I’ve seen former soldier cops show much more restraint than Johnny Football who went into the police academy immediately after spending four years beating up and intimidating the weak.

          Didn’t a former Marine get fired for trying deescalation instead of deadly force?

          1. yeah. And IIRC, he either succeeded in getting a suicide-by-cop to stand down, or had gotten close to succeeding when another cop showed up and shot the guy. But heaven forbid that we have actual brave cops willing to do the right thing. Gotta shoot first, last, and fast.

          2. Most police academies have lowered their standards to anyone with at least a high school education, and some department make waivers for misdemeanors. You get what you pay for, taxpayers.

            1. actually, according to the research, there’s no difference regarding shootings, professionalism, or cases of abuse between guys with HS diplomas and ones with degrees. The only difference the degrees make is when the cop wants to get promoted into leadership.

              Me, I got my degree in CRMJ and then I decided to actually do something productive with my life.

              1. I think there should be a higher bar to reach other than just graduating from high school. At least in the army you have to take the ASVAB and obtain a specific GT score in order to get a specific MOS. There isn’t anything like that for most police departments. Texas DPS used to make you take a test with actual math in it. Now even that is no longer required or can be waived (if you come from another department, state or federal agency or prior military).

            2. Not only that, in Texas they take people who have no firearm experience at all, give them a total of the 3 days training (a little of it actually shooting the guns) and then let them be armed officers. Hitting a target isn’t the only well-practiced skill you need to know to handle a gun well in a stressful situation but I’m sure that I’m preaching to the choir here.

              1. I only have a week’s worth of training on the firing range in the army and maybe a week of playing with the rubber duckies and learning how to field strip the M16A2. Nevertheless, I still qualified as an expert with my rifle and M203.

                1. That’s nice. I don’t know what it has to do with cops who can hit a target but can’t handle the finer points of dealing with stressful situations while armed but it’s nice.

                  1. It might because you just aren’t that great at reading comprehension. My point is very clear to anyone that is good at reading, which clearly you aren’t or you like to get high on manufactured rage that you can’t even think straight.

                    1. My drug of choice is my business.

      2. “There’s no way I’m putting any of this blame on the neighbor.”

        I’m going to. I don’t have any reason to, but I like to complicate things even if to me it seems unnecessary.
        Let’s try this out:
        I feel bad for the police because if the neighbor wouldn’t have called them that one wouldn’t have shot the lady. Think of how he must feel right now.
        (This is harder than I thought it would be. I’m coming up empty.)

        1. I hope unnamed officer psychopath gets his throat slit in his home in front of his children after watching his wife get raped. That and the neighbor being a busybody prick don’t negate, excuse or cancel each other.

          1. “in his home in front of his children after watching his wife get raped.”

            So, in other words, the kids are going to have quite a show, right?

          2. Why would you wish something like that upon someone? No, you aren’t an authoritarian asshole at all.

            1. Fuck yourself cop-sucker. Hope the same happens to you too.

              1. I’m an authoritarian for wanting to see justice done to this murderous lowlife piece of subhuman shit while you suck his dick like the pathetic boot licking kiss ass cunt that you are. LMAO. Hope it’s one of your pig buddies who slits your throat so you can thank him for it while you bleed out.

                1. Nice strawman you created there. I call you out for being mentally disturbed and a thread to society and I’m a fanboy of anything the police does? Wait, what?

                  1. Don’t mind him. He’s just being tough on the internet. He’s a real sweetheart once you get to know him.

      3. The neighbor isn’t responsible for officer psychopath, just for being a busybody prick. If an open door at your neighbor’s house is really a major concern in your life then gather up all your balls and go over there and knock on the door yourself.

        1. Or just call. Or walk to the driveway and yell.

          I can understand thinking there might be some desperate home invaders present and not wanting to find out the hard way.

    3. Sounds like they were concerned for the neighbor. The “welfare check” wasn’t about gub’ment dole, it was about checking to see if they were okay.

      Unfortunately she called the cops. Never call the cops unless your life is in immediate danger. And then it’s too late. So just don’t call the cops. If you have to call 911, call for fire or emt, never for the cops. Or you’ll just get someone killed.

      1. “”If you have to call 911, call for fire or emt, never for the cops.””

        If you call 911 for anything, the cops are going to show up. I would be willing to bet that if you called the firehouse directly, cops would hear radio traffic of the firehouse reporting their movement and come anyway.

        1. Lots of municipalities combine the buildings into a department of public safety. Fire engines and ambulances can’t get out of the building without every cop in the building knowing it’s happening.

          1. I thought the SOP for every 9/11 call was that all 3 emergency “services” show up no matter what. So you get a cop, an ambulance, and a fire truck. Fucking stupid, but IINM that’s how it works. Probably because that’s the most expensive way to do it that can be semi-plausibly justified.

            1. I think it varies from municipality to municipality and call to call, though it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that in at least one of all the different iterations of SOPs, somewhere a fire engine is required to show up to a silent alarm at a bank.

              1. Firefighters always over-respond. Think about it, there are very few hours during the day that they are actually working. I work at a university. Last year, we had a kid break her leg during a sporting event, and lo-and-behold, there’s the firetruck showing up along with the ambulance. It took 20 minutes to back the firetruck off of our athletic field. They create nothing but problems when they pull crap like that.

      2. The neighbor was a man, who knew the mother at the house had medical problems.
        He called the non-emergency line (not 911) requesting a routine welfare check because the door was open and the lights were on late at night.
        What reasonable person would expect a non-emergency call requesting a welfare check to result in a SWATting?

    4. According to the newest press conference, it took them at least several hours to answer the non-emergency call. That means the neighbor called before midnight on a Saturday night because someone was home, still awake and had their doors open but the screen doors shut on a cool fall evening. Honestly, the neighbor is looking worse and worse.

  3. Read this as fast as you can:

    Put your hands up show me your hand*bang*s…

    Fuck this guy.

    And yes, jail time is an appropriate outcome.

    Even as a non-police officer, I can see half a dozen things he could have done. She was inside the fucking house, he could have stepped to the right and been out of view of the window.

    He literally shot into the house of someone who could have been in distress. Cops really are some of the dumbest people on the planet.

    1. “”Even as a non-police officer, I can see half a dozen things he could have done.”‘

      Yeah, because you have had to do the “get home safely at all costs” training, nor LEO warrior training.

      1. LEO: “Legally Entitled Oppressor”

    2. Yeah, the fact that they didn’t fucking knock on the front door, call through the screen door, or ring the doorbell for a “welfare check” is telling. Do we now train police that knocking on doors is a suicidal action?

      1. With the knowledge that the door was left wide open, they parked around the corner, and how they were sneaking leads me to believe they expected someone to be in the house that wasn’t supposed to be there. Cops don’t do this shit unless they’re looking to catch someone. They were wrong to shoot, but I suspect their defense is going to be that they heard the officer yell and then saw a person holding a gun.

        1. The “door was wide open” is inaccurate. The main doors are open but the screen doors are shut. They even could have been locked but we’ll never know because he didn’t knock to allow her to answer the door.

      2. You and everyone else on here don’t know the facts of the matter. And for all of you keyboard warriors on blood thinners and morbidly obese, you should remind yourself of those facts before saying “x should have done this or that” and “I would have done this or that” the next time you post anonymously online.

        1. I would’ve knocked on the door with my gun out of the holster!!!

          1. I would’ve knocked on the door with my gun out of the holster!!!

            while standing to the side of the door, not in front of it in case they were bad actors.

        2. It’s pretty clear from the cops own video that the door is open with a clear view of nearly the entire room but the screen door is closed. It is also well known that the call was for a welfare check not suspected burglary, not intruders, but just a “gee, that’s odd, I hope they’re ok”. Try watching the video and reading up before laying claims that “nobody knows the facts”. The facts have been known for days.

    3. The bastard doesn’t even give her time to react. It’s like, say the magic CYA cop words then commence firing as soon as they are spoken.

      1. Or, you know, before they’re fully spoken.

    4. This is one of the worst ones I’ve ever seen! This ignoramus should get the electric chair!

  4. “If I had never dialed the police department, she’d still be alive,” Smith said. “It makes you not want to call the police department.”

    Welcome to Hit & Run.

    1. I feel bad for the neighbor. He didn’t do anything wrong, but now he’s gotta live with the guilt of knowing someone is dead because of his actions.

      1. I don’t feel bad for him. It was one of the first cool nights in Texas and she had her doors open. The lights were on so she was obviously up. Why would you call the police for that?

        1. 2 am in the morning though? I’m not blaming her for doing it, heck, I’ve had windows or porch doors open that late too, but it is a little different from the norm.

          Personally, if it was me I’d have walked over and checked on them myself instead of calling the cops (I’ve done it before), but that’s just me

          1. First, only the regular doors were open. The screen doors were shut so it wasn’t like the house was wide open. Second, who cares if someone who is obviously home (cars in the driveway) and awake (lights on) has their doors open BEFORE MIDNIGHT on a Saturday night. It took them 3 or 4 hours to get there according to the newest press conference so he called before midnight- maybe even as early as 10:30. On a Saturday night. When people were home. And awake. The man is a busybody who had no reason to call the police.

            1. ok, you’re right. I didn’t see that bit before, I thought he had called them in the wee hours of the night. It makes what he did a lot less reasonable.

              1. The police wanted you to think everything happened early in the morning. It makes it easier for them but the fact would have gotten out the call was made much earlier in the evening. I’ve called about actual crimes in progress and had to wait hours so I’m sure a welfare check has an even worse response time.

          2. 2 am in the morning

            No, 2 am in the afternoon.

  5. And maybe she did have a gun, because if you live in TX that’s one of the things you would grab when you hear someone outside of your house at 2:30 in the morning.

    1. This is why I can’t support the NRA, they should be crucifying cops for this behavior. Every “but they had a gun!” should be met with “Yes, and?”. It’s the USA, we have the right to own guns without the state executing us for it. If the police can legally murder you for owning a gun, it would seem that you don’t actually have a right to own a gun.

      1. If the state can legally murder you for owning a gun, then there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to return the favor. But the NRA should also be crucifying the guy for just throwing out the basics of gun safety and usage and firing blindly into a home with people in it. The NRA needs to find its balls, there’s softball after softball going past them with these scenarios (Castillo up in Minnesota comes to mind) and they just look the other way.

        If this is the standard for Fort Worth cops, they’d be better off with no cops.

        1. Exactly. Even if she were holding the gun when she was shot, she was in her own home and some unannounced asshole was outside with a flashlight at 2:30AM. I’d have a gun when I went to check that out too.

          The homeowner did nothing that could even remotely be considered threatening, and the cop did about a dozen things he didn’t need to do that resulted in him panic shooting someone. Fire his ass directly into the sun, do not pass go do not collect $200.

          1. When does the racial angle start kicking in?

  6. At least there’s a silver lining – the officer got home safe that night!

    1. Yeah, and as far as we know without murdering anyone else!

  7. Might be a trend…

    “A Greenville County deputy who shot a Simpsonville homeowner through his front-door window has been cleared of criminal wrongdoing.

    The State Law Enforcement Division investigated the shooting and submitted findings to the state Attorney General’s Office, which recommended that no criminal charges be filed against Deputy Kevin Azzara.

    “It is my legal opinion that the officer used lawful force under the circumstances. As such, we are not recommending initiation of criminal charges against the officer,” Jerrod Fussnecker, an assistant attorney general, wrote in a disposition letter to SLED that was obtained by The Greenville News.”
    Greenville County deputy won’t be charged for shooting Simpsonville homeowner

    1. Obviously the solution is to ban windows.

      1. But then how would we stimulate the economy?

    2. “the guy had a gun and he lived, didn’t he? What more do you want from us?” – the deputy, probably

    3. “It is my legal opinion that the officer used lawful force under the circumstances.

      Shooting a guy in legal possession of a handgun in his own house who has not initiated violence is lawful force? Your legal opinion is a crock of shit.

      Hopefully there is someone smart enough to run against the DA based on the office’s shitty legal advice.

    4. In that incident, Azzara fired 10 rounds from his rifle, striking 50-year-old Inabinet, who held a pellet gun outside the home and threatened “suicide by cop” during an argument with his estranged wife, according to the investigative case file from SLED.

      According to Azzara’s personnel file, he is also responsible for shooting three dogs, including Inabinet’s dog in 2016 during another call to the same Fountain Inn residence.

      Greenville County.

      *looks that up*

      Yeah, so I guess gone are the days when cops in the flyest-flyover country could do a whole career without ever drawing their weapon.

      1. Azzara fired 10 rounds from his rifle, striking 50-year-old Inabinet, who held a pellet gun

        His rifle, not his pistol. So, he set up and took 10 shots with a rifle at a guy with a pellet gun. After shooting the same guy’s dog the year before. And went back to the same job dealing with the public at some point after that.

  8. So when they were at the front door and saw that the screen door was closed, why didn’t they just call inside to check on the welfare of the occupants? It was a welfare check, not a “let’s sneak around outside and see if we can find a pot plant or other contraband” fishing expedition.

    1. Or they could have just done nothing. As far as I know, responses to calls asking for welfare checks aren’t mandatory. Dispatch could have told the guy that that isn’t a situation that requires a welfare check. Are Ft. Worth cops so bored on a Saturday night that they have to start poking around houses where there is nothing out of the ordinary going on?

      1. Not only are they bored they’re obviously afraid for their lives every instant. Must be the occasional adrenaline rush that keeps them from doing meth. Then again they could rotate their drugs to keep a balance.

        1. Or a combination of both for an extra buzz. Honestly, he seems like a decent enough guy but obviously not cut out for police work. I don’t think he’s going to fare well in the prison system either but that’s where he’s headed. Dallas/Ft. Worth seems to be a little fed up with people being murdered by police officers.

    2. They were hoping there’d be a dog to shoot. Had to settle for the homeowner.

  9. The police have yet to explain if they saw Jefferson holding the gun or if the gun was even in the same room with her.

    Irrelevant, unless they need an excuse?

    1. “unless they need an excuse?”

      That’s why it’s relevant.

    2. Just state that they saw her holding the gun to the kid’s head. The story will get buried.

  10. Also, the police mention a gun was in the house to muddy the waters. Just like they mentioned the marijuana at Botham Jean’s house to muddy the waters.

    There’s a reason they aren’t saying the gun was found in her hand, next to her body or even in the same room. I’d bet some money that the gun was just in a safe in the other room, where it should be (unless someone with a flashlight is snooping outside your house at 2:30AM, i suppose). Assholes.

    Police departments are full of criminals. Abolish them all and reform from scratch. An open door should not be enough to warrant a welfare check. The police should have said “stop calling us for dumb shit like an open door, you moron.”

    1. The police should have said “stop calling us for dumb shit like an open door, you moron.”

      Walk your ass over to their front door and knock. If anything illegal happens before you get back to your house, then call us back.

      1. I’ve been told that several times by 911 operators. But that was for silly stuff like assault, theft, and burglary. They were too busy busting college kids for drinking (and confiscating the booze) and busting druggies (and confiscating drugs and cash) to be bothered with crimes with actual victims.

        I guess if you see people with a flatbed truck breaking locks and stealing thousands of dollars worth of bicycles, or someone breaking a basement window and climbing in, or a homeless person being assaulted, you should report a drunk minor or a drug deal.

        1. Must. Get. Home. Safe.

        2. Make sure the call can’t be traced back to you because when they find out there’s no revenue to be had, they’ll charge you with filing a false report or something.

  11. The cop should be tried for murder. Ignoring the fact that he never declared himself as a cop, ignoring the fact that he gave the poor girl no time to react, or that he was snooping around without cause, what sort of training do these fuckwits get that they think it’s ok to blindly fire into a house which has civilians in it with no clear idea of what you’re shooting at?

    Always identify your target and what’s behind/around your target are some of the most basic rules of gun safety, this isn’t rocket science. Give this asshole the electric chair.

    1. The cop should be tried for murder.

      Hugs all around.

      1. And a Bible open to appropriate passages.

  12. Just damn.

    Hope this trigger-happy cop is tried, convicted, and serves a long prison sentence. There’s no excuse for shooting and killing this young woman. But I’m sure his attorney and the FOP will come up with something.

    1. In Texas the throwdown gun us that “something.” Politicians who send the pigs out to invade homes and shoot people over plant leaves are the primary perpetrators. The secondary perps are the ones who–instead of voting Libertarian–waste their vote by rewarding murderers.

  13. At least the cop had the dignity to resign before being fired. Maybe he still has some honor left and will eat a bullet saving the taxpayers some money.
    https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fort-Worth-Officer-Resigns-After-Fatal-Shooting-That-Killed-Atatiana-Jefferson-563075211.html

  14. But while the family was “usually home” at that time, he felt it wasn’t “normal” for the doors to be open so late.

    I’m still lost at this part. This dude was plainly awake at that time in the morning; why did he think his neighbor couldn’t be? Especially on a Saturday night?

    1. I think he was more worried that someone had broken in then that they were out and about

  15. If this was dispatched as a ‘welfare check’, two questions: why not stop at the front door and knock or call out and why did he have his gun drawn?

    The police pass the front door without a permit, a clear and known violation of the constitution, and then shoot the homeowner inside the home when they could have retreated. On duty or off, that is murder. Guyger may not have known she was in the wrong apartment. This cop knew without a doubt he was trespassing.

    The incredible irony that having a gun in your home for self defense is punishable by death? Something needs to be done. I call for legislation that no law enforcement officer can possess a deadly weapon while on duty. At the very least that no law enforcement officer can initiate deadly force unless it has been initiated against them. Cops go into the job knowing they may be shot at. No one sitting at home playing video games with their nephew expects cops sneaking around the backyard at 2:30 in the morning.

    1. My reading was that the check was 3 hours after the call. This is understandable because it was on a secondary priority list. But there is a big difference between 10:30 pm and 2:30 am when the officer arrived. I can tell you from experience that 2:30 doorbell ring is scary even when it is a police officer. However, I am white and don’t worry too much about being shot by a police officer.

      1. In the latest press conference, the chief says the call was at least three hours before.

        And you should be concerned about being shot by the police. Just ask Dennis Tuttle’s family for one.

      2. Plenty of unarmed lower class whites are illegally killed by cops, some of whom have been black! You just do not hear about these incidents! They do not fit the narrative!

        1. Well then why don’t you fill us in on the last time this happened.

          1. HPD officer Gerald Goines and the famous no knock raid where officers murder 2 people and shot each other up (as we can only guess because HPD isn’t talking about ballistics results). But we’ve hear plenty about that.

      3. I can tell you from experience that 2:30 doorbell ring is scary even when it is a police officer.

        What reasonable officer would think that a uniformed cop on the well lit porch was more likely to trigger an adverse reaction than some random asshole with a flashlight peering in the windows from the backyard? The physics of light passing through glass prohibit any possibility that she could have identified the trespasser as a cop through a window. Anyone who regularly walks up to windows with a flashlight in his hand, like, say, a patrol officer, should know that.

        An officer’s unconstitutional search combined with his stupidity and fear killed this woman.

      4. “I can tell you from experience that 2:30 doorbell ring is scary even when it is a police officer.”

        No, it’s even scarier. Someone with burglary or assault on the mind would not be ringing the doorbell, and if it’s a cop, you know that you’re dealing with someone with a firearm who has a propensity to chuck bullets all over the place.

  16. “It makes you not want to call the police department.”

    Sad that people only learn this lesson in the wake of tragedy.

    1. I was white enough to learn the lesson through a relatively benign intervention that could have been gone if I were some other color.

      My alarm went off because strong wind blew a door open. I called to say false alarm but not in time to stop the cops from entering my house. I had just moved in so it was a mess, and they couldn’t tell me whether they thought it had been burgled given the mess. They admitted that they weren’t in the house legally, and so I assume that’s why they didn’t mention the very visible bong on my kitchen counter. This was just before it was legal.

      One of the cops tripped and fell on a broken stair, which I found amusing, but it was also concerning in case there was some liability issue. Luckily, again, they were in my house illegally.

      That’s the only thing that has ever resulted from my owning an alarm system. Fuck those things. Just put up a sign and never call the fucking cops.

      1. This was just before it was legal.

        In Oklahoma?

  17. Texas allows deadly force to protect property, and the laws become more lax during the night. She would have been justified to kill the cop for believing this was a theft or criminal mischief at 0230, and likely the cop understood this and shot first. One does not go gallivanting through secured back yards in Fort Worth, that is how one gets shot. I see no way to go on this except first degree felony murder. I’d like capitol murder but that only is only tied to kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or retaliation, or terroristic threat. In my opinion deprivation of rights under the color of law should be included with capitol murder modifiers.

  18. Lee Merritt aka Race Vulture.

  19. “I have never seen a situation so dismal that a policeman couldn’t make it worse.”
    — Brendan Behan

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  20. I know it is a radical suggestion but maybe we need to have a system like England with unarmed and armed police. This kind of stuff happen just too often. Have the first line be unarmed officers who can call in armed officer if necessary.

    1. Or maybe if the citizens just obeyed orders none of this would happen. If you have beef with how something went down, then that is what a litigator is there for. It’s the proper venue to handle a dispute.

      1. NO. the police didn’t announce themselves and if someone is around my house at 2:30 in the am making noise I will be armed and the idea that waking a person up in the am from a deep sleep means they understood what they said is BS.

        Doors open in the heat of summer is not unusual either. mine are closed but only because of the bears and mountain lions. the dogs shut up when they are around

      2. Fuck you. The pig started shooting before he finished giving his “orders.” What was she supposed to do, read his mind and then call her lawyer? Go lick a boot, you supine douche.

      3. /sarc? I hope so. Last time I checked, litigators cannot raise the dead.

    2. I second your suggestion. If it just saves one life. Isn’t that what they claim for everything else

  21. this is where it pays to know your neighbors and their phone numbers so you can call them first before you call the cops. I know most of my neighbors numbers and the ones I don’t I know who knows

  22. DO NOT CALL COPS ON ANYONE YOU CARE ABOUT.
    If you are so concerned with someones welfare, get of your lazy ass on go check on them yourselves.
    Also Cops need to be traind to not assume context, but rather skeptically investigate till they understand the context of a situation. The cops , though called on a welfare check, were clearly primed as though for an armed robbery in progress.

    1. It doesn’t really make a difference. I’ve been calling the cops to check up on my neighbor ever since I first heard this story and the lady on the phone finally flat-out told me that the cops aren’t going to shoot her. I get in trouble if I call again.

  23. My twin brother served as a USAF Security Forces commander for 30 years. In that capacity he came in contact with civilian police both here and in Europe. He always commented that fully one-third of the civilian police had no business being in any position of authority let alone being armed. (He said the same of his own troops.)

  24. I suppose it wouldn’t be politically correct to screen officers in training for intelligence. What does it actually take to fail police school?

    1. First you need a psychological exam. When my son went through the academy in Houston, they literally gave him the name and address of a “psychologist” where you slip $100 cash under the door and when he’s ready to see you, you are allowed in the house. The guy asked about 10 questions which anyone could have easily lied to and then he got the letter stating he was mentally sound to be a police officer. That and a few college classes got him in.

      The whole experience went down hill from there and he ended up going back to college after graduating near the top of his class and never became a cop.

  25. Riiiing
    Fort Worth 911, may I help you?
    Hi, my name is… Brown, um, John Brown, and I’m worried about my neighbor, James Smith… Could you send someone to check and make sure everything is OK?

  26. Just saw a really neat alternative to calling the cops for a welfare check: call a Pizza delivery place and order a pizza, with instructions for the delivery guy to call your number when it’s delivered. Creative

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/family-sends-pizza-deliveryman-check-grandma-hurricane/story?id=42749239

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