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Climate Activists Around the World Will Take to the Streets on Friday. Will Their Protests Matter?

Or, will global leaders ignore them just like they did the People's Climate March in 2014?

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The Global Climate Strike scheduled for this Friday will see hundreds of thousands of school children and their supporters take to the streets around the world to "demand an end to the age of fossil fuels and climate justice for everyone." One especially big rally will be in New York City, where the United Nations is convening a Climate Action Summit of world leaders the following week. At the summit, countries are expected to ramp up their ambitions to curb their greenhouse gas emissions under the 2015 Paris climate agreement

New York City will allow its 1.1 million public school students to skip classes to participate in the protests, and scores of businesses have announced that they will be closed so that their employees can join in. At the moment, there are at least 800 strikes planned across all 50 states and people in 150 countries are planning to participate. The Climate Strikers acknowledge that "these Climate Strikes won't solve the climate crisis alone," but contend that "September's climate strikes will kickstart a huge wave of action and renewed ambition all over the world."

But will it? Five years ago, I reported on the People's Climate March which gathered in New York City at the beginning of another United Nations Climate Summit in 2014. Around 400,000 people marched down Sixth Avenue in New York and thousands more attended some 2,600 rallies in 162 countries around the world. "When the people speak up and when the people march, the politicians will follow," shouted Danny Kennedy, activist and founder of the solar company Sungevity in a pep talk before that March.

It is true that a year later, the countries of the world adopted the Paris agreement on climate change. Under that bottom-up agreement, signatories make voluntary commitments to limit their greenhouse gas emissions with the goal of keeping the increase of future average global temperature to well below 2 degrees Celsius above the pre-industrial level. Right now, the global average temperature is about 1 degree Celsius higher than the late 19th-century average.

Since the People's March, the annual global emissions of the chief non-condensing greenhouse gas carbon dioxide rose from 35.6 gigatons to 37.1 gigatons. The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rose from 397 parts per million to 409 parts per million (this a 46 percent increase over the pre-industrial level of about 280 parts per million). The last five years were the hottest since relatively good records began in the late 19th century.

At the U.N. summit in 2014, Chinese Vice-Premier Zhang Gaoli declared, "Developed countries need to intensify emission reduction and fulfill their commitment of annual financial support of 100 billion U.S. dollars and technology transfer to developing countries by 2020." At the summit next week, China will again demand that rich countries honor their commitments to hand over $100 billion annually to help developing countries (including China!) cope with climate change.

Overall, earlier mass protests have not been self-evidently successful at getting politicians to follow and moving forward the political and economic agenda of climate activists. On the other hand, protests like this Friday's Climate Strike do capture the attention of the wider public. For example, a recent CBS News poll reports that 70 percent of Americans believe human activity contributes "a lot" or "some" to climate change and that 56 percent believe humans should act on climate change "right now." A Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll reported that 57 percent of American teenagers are afraid of climate change and 52 percent were angered by it.

With respect to publicizing climate movement's concerns, such protests do seem to be succeeding.

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  1. I like the sign that says ‘NO MORE SHARPIES’ written with a Sharpie.

    1. And the one that says “SCIENCE OVER TYRANTS” as if Michael Mann wasn’t his own kind of tyrant and the New Green Deal isn’t proposed by wannabe tyrants; and I’d bet the sign holder doesn’t like GMOs because EVIL.

      1. I like how completely meaningless that slogan is. Nice.

        1. It reminds me of this great single-panel cartoon I saw of a demonstration by physicians where the protest signs are all written in an illegible scrawl.

    2. Um, didn’t you write that with a Sharpie, sir, uh, I mean ma’am?

  2. With respect to publicizing climate movement’s concerns, such protests do seem to be succeeding.

    But at the same time, every year that predictions continue to be proven wrong is another nail in the coffin of the climate-catastrophe religion.

    1. I don’t think religion works the way you think it does.

      1. Yeah– right after the Catholic church and Islam keel over, climate-catastrophe will fade away too.

  3. In California people will drive the four hundred miles from LA to the capital to protest Big Oil. That’s true dedication! Hollywood celebrities will jet to Milan to discuss global warming. If we can’t follow the lead of people trained -and very good at – telling lies for a living, who else can we trust?

    1. > If we can’t follow the lead of people trained -and very good at – telling lies for a living, who else can we trust?

      Politicians? No wait, same thing.

  4. A strike by people who don’t work…it’s a provocative concept.

    1. They’re in NYC schools. They weren’t doing anything productive.

    2. If there’s a line between these folks and the crazy homeless dude shouting about the end of the world I don’t see it.

      1. There isn’t

        1. Um, no. These people are dangerous.

          For example, a recent CBS News poll reports that 70 percent of Americans believe human activity contributes “a lot” or “some” to climate change and that 56 percent believe humans should act on climate change “right now.” A Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll reported that 57 percent of American teenagers are afraid of climate change and 52 percent were angered by it.

          Their cult is successful and growing.

          1. First, you don’t have to admit to CBS that you think AGW is a crock. Just say “some” contribution to warming and they won’t get upset.

  5. So what do they have to replace fossil fuels that will also enable a society highly dependent on mass transportation, 24/7 energy availability and electronics?

    Until they have that, they are spitting into hurricane force winds.

    1. Wasn’t that a Kansas song?

      1. If “Icarus” isn’t your favorite Kansas song, I can’t even.

        1. He Knew all day man.

        2. how long?

      2. Jim Croce.

    2. The answer’s easy: modern, molten salt nuclear reactors. But those dimwits “fuckin love” science so much, they will never accept it!

    3. > So what do they have to replace fossil fuels that will also enable a society highly dependent on mass transportation, 24/7 energy availability and electronics?

      Solar panels, wind turbines, and really good batteries.

  6. “Or, will global leaders ignore them just like they did the People’s Climate March in 2014?”

    I can’t speak for global leaders, but I know I will be ignoring these ignoramuses.

    “When the people speak up and when the people march, the politicians will follow,”

    I do like this quote that admits the people we elect are NOT leaders, but in fact Lemmings that will follow us off the cliff.

    1. “When the people speak up and when the people march, the politicians will follow,”

      And then you get the Bolshevik revolution. What happened after that?

      1. Civil war with the whites (funny, I know) and millions of deaths AFTER the war ends.

  7. My comment doesn’t need “moderation.”
    Take your censors and your censorship to Cuba where it belongs.

  8. Will Their Protests Matter?

    Have they every?

    Well, I guess they have – they’ve made things worse by making nuclear power effectively impossible.

  9. all so cute with their hope and signs

    1. Long haired freaky people need not apply.

  10. They only ignored the People’s Climate March because the leaders were taken in by the Climate March for the People.

    The whole thing is nothing but a fig leaf for totalitarianism.

    http://issuesinsights.com/2019/09/17/the-global-warming-scare-the-perfect-trojan-horse-for-tyranny/

    1. The whole thing is nothing but a fig leaf for totalitarianism.

      That has got to be the most elegant phrasing I’ve heard for what I’ve been trying express for years.

      1. Mencken said it best:

        The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

  11. “New York City will allow its 1.1 million public school students to skip classes to participate in the protests, and scores of businesses have announced that they will be closed so that their employees can join in.”

    Fortunately, I have no interest in going to radfem coffee shops or transgender clothing outlets.

    1. There won’t be a gay and lesbian bookstore open in the entire city. What will people do?

      1. > There won’t be a gay and lesbian bookstore open in the entire city. What will people do?

        Check out the glory hole in the local 7/11?

    2. So, will the taxpayers in the Wormy Fruit get a refund for the day that all 1.1 million kids were told to cut class?

      1. No. One way or another, NYC will waste that tax money.

        1. AOC is putting it into an account along with the $3B that Long Island did not have to “give” to amazon. She’ll do great things with it, just you wait and see!

          Haha.

      2. NYC won’t be getting their federal funding they would normally get if those kids were in school. There is that.

  12. “Daddy, can I take the BMW to the climate march?”


  13. The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rose from 397 parts per million to 409 parts per million (this a 46 percent increase over the pre-industrial level of about 280 parts per million).

    But have they reached the ballpark of 1500-3000 PPM that we know the Earth has experienced before when speciation was going wild? How about the ~170 PPM levels where most of the plants on Earth will die out? No?

    1. I like how they refer to the pre industrial timeline as the climate basis. Literally a period referred to as the title ocean age filled with lots of human death.

      1. Fucking autocorrect. little ice age.

    2. I’d be interested in seeing your sources, since I didn’t even know we ever had CO2 levels of 1500-3000 PPM. If so that’s crushing for the hatred of CO2 folks.

      I think the article confuses awareness of this issue with willingness to take action on it. Awareness should be at total saturation level by now. Willingness to take action requires actually spending money and/or doing things that you really don’t want to do, like change your temperature to save energy. That’s what Greta and pals want us to do.

      But this is a really strange cause, since any realistic appraisal of it will demonstrate that it is simply impossible to reduce our energy use to help. Even if we quit using fossil fuels entirely, the Chinese are increasing their use so much that it will entirely overwhelm our sacrifice. So any steps we can take are purely symbolic. These facts seem completely obvious to me.

      That we do not appear to be even considering what we can do to mitigate the impacts of inevitable warming make me wonder how much people actually believe this stuff, and how much it’s just a desire to make us suffer for the sake of our suffering. In which case we should simply laugh at them and move on with our lives.

      Personally, I think that up to a certain point a warmer world is preferable to a chilly one. We don’t go to Antarctica for our vacations; we go to Florida. If the world becomes more like Florida it seems like a net benefit to me. I have been so far disappointed at the lack of actual warming we are receiving, so instead of waiting, I moved to Florida … LOL.

      So far, I’ve seen nothing to take me out of the Denialist camp. But if I’m wrong, we need to learn how to live with warming, not participate in futile and extraordinarily expensive schemes to cool the plant.

  14. “Will their protests matter?”

    lol

    no

    1. To be fair, we still have three months to verify if Britain’s climate becomes “siberian”.

      1. To be fair, if Brexit happens, Britain will be destroyed, but I don’t think that has anything to do with climate change.

  15. Where’s the Pied Piper when he’s really needed?

    1. It’s a ‘she’ now. Welcome to 2019.

  16. “The last five years were the hottest since relatively good records began in the late 19th century.”

    Ron, you’re aware that records that cover, at best, 160 years out of 5 BILLION are of exceptionally poor value, right?

    “It’s never been so hot as it is now…at least not according to records that measure temperatures over 0.000000003% of our existence!! AIIIEEE”

    Our records, mind you, would correlate to less than 3.5 MINUTES of the average life of an American.

    …you know, to keep it this real…

    1. “Ron, you’re aware that records that cover, at best, 160 years out of 5 BILLION are of exceptionally poor value, right?”

      But to be fair, the Earth’s atmosphere only had oxygen for about half that time. Which is 0.0000065% of Earths existence.

      1. Oops! 160 years would be 0.0000065% of the time that Earth has had an oxygen atmosphere.

        2.45 billion years would be 50% of Earths existence.

    2. And you only get the last 5 being the worst by the downward trend of “fixing” the temperature records of the 1930s.

    3. To be fair, you don’t need a long time to make reasonable models, provided the cause-effect relationship is well known. But since these people assume the wrong causes, the models fail.

  17. “(this a 46 percent increase over the pre-industrial level of about 280 parts per million)”

    Forgive me if I doubt the accuracy of these pre-industrial measurements or why that period, above all, is the “right” one environmentally.

    1. “Forgive me if I doubt the accuracy of these pre-industrial measurements or why that period, above all, is the “right” one environmentally.”

      Wasn’t the pre-industrial era unusually cold? That’s why it’s called The Little Ice Age. So if the level really was 280 ppm, then it was obviously too low.

  18. If you use the phrase “Climate Justice,” you’re simply demonstrating that you are not to be taken seriously.

    1. What, you didn’t know that global warming has a disproportionate affect on people of color? Yup, I read that in the Seattle times a while back.

      Guilt, grievance and victim hood all in one tidy package called climate change. Prog heaven!

      Haha.

  19. Hello,

    I am 63; however please do not dismiss me for that. Yes, I was in your camp long ago and an anthem of our time in the late ’70s was a song, “London Calling” by The Clash. Of particular relevance are the following excerpted lyrics:

    “The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in
    Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin’ thin
    Engines stop running, but I have no fear
    ‘Cause London is drowning, and I, I live by the river…”

    Ah…. We are mankind. Who unlike all other species are conscious of our own mortality, and henceforth scared to death in this era of luxury. Nonetheless, I do realize who man is…! Let us imagine if the worst catastrophe were to happen. The first things the survivors would do would be to kill an animal and start a fire. Why? We are mankind…. Get over it! Additionally, I do not see all of the enlightened high schooler living under a bridge to shun fossil fuel…. And yes, JFK Jr are my initials and I was born in 1956.
    So please, shelve you banners and prove to me that you are a “Green” and post photos of yourself living as they did in the movie “Braveheart”.
    Cheers

    1. I would never dismiss someone who quotes Strummer & Jones.

      1. This.

        Great song by a great band.

  20. Still waiting for the first global climate warming change model to be correct.
    These clowns have been wrong for over a half a century.
    And just for the record, the best record by a nation for emission reduction was one that did not sign the ‘accord’.
    Anyone who claims asset redistribution is a solution to a physics problem is a liar.

  21. Put your money where your mouth is. You don’t have to wait for government officials to act before you cut your own carbon footprint.
    Sell your auto; do staycations instead of visiting Machu Pichu; bathe only twice a week; turn off the AC and run the furnace at 60 in the winter.

    1. Why stop there?

      The generation of electric power is perhaps the greatest source of carbon in the environment. So let’s see these kids give up their cellphones, handhelds, computers, high-def televisions, recorded music, movies, social media, ebooks, etc., etc., etc….Not to mention concerts, clubs, raves, etc…

  22. The theatrics will work until they don’t. A fan of Svensmark, Shaviv, Veizer, Lindzen, Zharkova and a bunch of other scientists who have all but screamed and shouted “Look over here”, I am not impressed with the Warmistai antics.

    I’m expecting a Maunderish Minimum in full swing in the early 2030s and a cooling in fits and starts in the meantime. At some point, Warmist claims will trigger yuks as fodder for late night comics and I will laugh.

    1. It’s worth noting the below article in terms of solar minimums:

      Solar Cycle 25

      Another Source

      It should be interesting to watch ‘climate change’ shift back to global cooling, assuming any of these people can predict anything at all.

      It’s always worth noting that all ‘warming’ in our solar system comes from the Sun, and we still don’t really understand it’s cycles even while we’re pretty certain it accounts for our many, many ice ages.

  23. Why does only climate science draw protests like this?

    What about more fundamental unsolved questions in science and mathematics, such as quantum gravity, the equations of state for neutron degenerate matter, or the veracity of the Goldbach conjecture?

    1. You got me, Michael. Politics perhaps, plus the ego boost the idiots with degrees that didn’t take ANY advanced mathematics get by getting their bona fides by just being on board with the Green New Deal.

    2. None of those things offer the opportunity to exercise power over others the way the supposed climate crisis does.

    3. …or the absolutely horrible idea of a remake of the Princess Bride.

      An act of destruction so vile, so cruel, as to be inconceivable.

    4. Actual science doesn’t have mass social engineering schemes to drive it, hence no marches.

      It’s interesting that it’s a strike this time. A friend of mine grew up in Greece in the 80s when there was a very strong communist movement there. Almost every day, they would call a student strike over something. Student strikes were also popular among leftists here in the 1960s.

  24. Electric generation by nuclear fission. Anyone who is concerned that CO2 is an issue will advocate nuclear over environmentally destructive solar and wind.

    1. “B-b-but nuclear power is like really super dangerous because it starts with the exact same word as nuclear weapons! And besides that, how will switching to nuclear power help get rid of income inequality and capitalism and the patriarchy and people who are better at sports than me? Huh? Answer me that Mr Smarty-Pants!” *runs away in tears*

      —Typical climate striker

  25. So we’re supposed to pay China billions so they can double their emissions every 10 years until 2030, and then their emissions are tied to their GDP, with no guarantee that they’ll go down, or even stop rising?

    And climate change is Trumps fault?

    1. Hey man, they NEED those billions more than we do! Putting a few million Weagers in concentration camps, persecuting everyone in Hong Kong, harvesting organs from Falun Gong members, starting a 1984-style social credit system to strictly control 1.3 billion people—you think that stuff is cheap? You try doing all that stuff on a shoestring budget, you cheapskate! Proper tyranny needs generous funding!

  26. “…will global leaders ignore them just like they did the People’s Climate March in 2014?”
    Well, they, sure as shit, should.

  27. their voice will not be heard. the only thing that happens is that police will put all of them down as if they’re some animals not people
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  28. I’ll take this seriously when the H’wood watermelons start shorting their Malibu beach-front properties.
    And how the lot of them can claim “SCIENCE!” when not a single prediction has been shown simply demonstrates how ignorant they are of science. It’s almost as if Ehrlich is still claimed to be a scientist.

  29. Just imagine all the trees that died to make their signs.

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