There's Only 1 Democrat Talking About the Constitution, and It's (Shudder) Joe Biden
The Democratic presidential field is not interested in your puny restraints on the executive branch.

Let us not now pretend that Joe Biden brought anything like coherence to Thursday night's Democratic presidential debate in Houston.
At some point near the exhausted end of the nearly three-hour affair, the 76-year-old former vice president blurted out within the space of a few seconds the sentences "Make sure that kids hear words," and "I know Maduro." Confronted with the Obama administration's unlovely record on deportation, he just lied about it: "We didn't lock people up in cages. We didn't separate families." And at the close of one particularly free-associative word salad that hopped from the Afghanistan surge to Pakistani bases to weapons inspectors to the authorization for the use of force in Iraq, the perennial presidential contender simply concluded, "I said something that was not meant the way I said it." We feel you, Joe.
Yet the Democratic front-runner also played a starring role in what was arguably the most clarifying exchange of the night. Moderator David Muir, addressing the cavalier gun-grabber Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.), asked her to address Biden's recent assertion that "There's no constitutional authority to issue that executive order when they say 'I'm going to eliminate assault weapons,'" because, "you can't do it by executive order any more than Trump can do things when he says he can do it by executive order."
"Well, I mean," Harris began, failing to suppress a smug laugh, "I would just say, 'Hey, Joe, instead of saying no we can't, let's say yes we can!"
As the crowd hooted and applauded, Delaware's favorite son attempted to interject: "Let's be constitutional! We've got a Constitution." Ha ha, what?
There were many things missing from this third Democratic presidential debate—a straightforward defense of free trade, say, or any notion that trillion-dollar federal deficits are unsound in year nine of an economic expansion. But perhaps the most striking absence was any sense from Biden's nine challengers on stage that there are, or should be, constraints on the executive branch carrying out the domestic policy whims of the Democratic electorate.
Harris, as is her wont, expressed the will to power most blatantly. "The idea that we would wait for this Congress, which has just done nothing, to act, is just—it is overlooking the fact that every day in America, our babies are going to school to have drills, elementary, middle, and high school students, where they are learning about how they have to hide in a closet or crouch in a corner if there is a mass shooter roaming the hallways of their school."
It is apparently pedantic to point out in 2019 America that waiting for legislatures to make laws (and for executives to sign them) is how this particular governing system was designed, but here we are. (I would further add that active-shooter drills at public schools, including my daughter's pre-K that I just found out yesterday, are a purely local choice, in addition to being asinine.)
The United States for the last century, and particularly the past two decades, has been mutating from a states-based political architecture to a kind of never-ending national crisis overseen by an ever-expanding executive branch. Citizens can't name their city councilor or state senator, but they sure as hell know which president or would-be commander in chief they hate most. There isn't a local problem that doesn't merit a federal response, whether it's President Donald Trump contemplating homeless sweeps in Los Angeles or Democrats in Congress forever going on about the water crisis in Flint, Michigan.
The federal government spends just 8 cents of every K-12 education dollar in this country. (That may well be 8 cents too many, but leave that aside for the moment.) Listening to the Democrats debate on Thursday, you'd think that we were electing a new president of public schools.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) wants a wealth tax to pay for "universal childcare for every baby age zero to five, universal pre-K for every 3-year-old and 4-year-old in this country," in addition to raising the wages "of every childcare worker and preschool teacher in this country, [and] cancel[ing] student loan debt for 95 percent of the folks who've got it."
Harris wants to spend $2 trillion just on historically black colleges and universities. (For comparison, that's twice as much as the initial price tag on the Affordable Care Act.) Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) vows that "every teacher in America" will make "at least $60,000 a year." Biden sees that $60,000, and also triples the federal Title I budget, to $45 billion a year.
None of which was quite enough for Julián Castro.
"I also believe," the former Housing and Urban Development secretary said, "that we have to connect the dots to uplift the quality of life to invest in housing opportunity, to invest in job opportunity, to invest in community schools that offer resources like parents able to go back and get their GED, and health care opportunities, and those things that truly ensure that the entire family can prosper."
The candidates spoke, with varying levels of persuasion, about the fierce urgency of deposing Donald Trump and rebuilding an American political consensus whose fracturing made a Trump presidency possible. But staring into the face of an executive they despise, their imaginations rarely strayed beyond a transparent desire to seize the scepter of power and just wield it differently.
Joe Biden is a rusty weather vane who has lost several miles per hour off his fastball. And he might just be the only plausible Democratic nominee to realize that a president can't, and shouldn't, be king. God help us all.
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Minor detail; Joe Biden is a democrat. When he speaks, he lies. Period.
He says no president should be King, unless it's the right man (him).
Accidentally flagged. Apparently there’s no confirmation button for it.
Joe Biden is a career politician. When they speak they lie.
often he's plagiarizing. those words might be true.
I agree, Long. Republicans never lie. They ALWAYS tell the truth. They are pure of heart and blessed by God.
No, but at least they’re not communist traitors. Like the democrats.
You know how you can tell when any politician is lying? Their lips are moving.
The candidates spoke, with varying levels of persuasion, about the fierce urgency of deposing Donald Trump and rebuilding an American political consensus whose fracturing made a Trump presidency possible.
And this is why Trump is going to be re-elected. There was never any "American political consensus" and the fact that half the country held opinions that the Uniparty actively suppressed and ignored made a Trump presidency not possible but inevitable. The absolute rejection of the idea that maybe it's not me but you, the papering over of the discontent exposed by the Reform Party and the TEA Party, means you're not listening and you needed a smack upside the head to get your attention. Apparently the smack upside the head didn't work. You're not going to like what happens when a smack upside the head doesn't get the job done.
Apparently the smack upside the head didn’t work.
I wonder if even multiple such smacks will have any lasting effect.
There was never any “American political consensus” and the fact that half the country held opinions that the Uniparty actively suppressed and ignored made a Trump presidency not possible but inevitable.
The "political consensus" that they're lamenting the end of was the left-wing one that emerged through the last 100 years and took flower in the 60s, which is the earliest cultural frame of reference for all of these people.
As you alluded to, if Trump blew it up, there's no way that consensus is going to be rebuilt. This is a realignment, not a rebuild.
Did Trump blow it up or simply set it back to the Kennedy administration? His policies and Kennedy's seem fairly similar.
Did you just call Donald Trump Kennedy-esque? 🙂
Because, yeah, his policies really are pretty similar. They have some similarity to Coolidge as well, except more combative in tone. Coolidge liked to use tariffs too because he believed they were essential for promoting economic growth in the U.S.
https://www.coolidgefoundation.org/blog/grand-old-protectionists-calvin-coolidge-and-the-full-dinner-pail/
You can almost sense reason writers coming to the realization that maybe orange man actually isnt that bad in comparison. Despite all the mean things he says. Sometimes you need to put aside the words and look at the actions instead. The democrats are what are to be feared. They arent even hiding their contempt for limited powers anymore, they get standing applause for that contempt.
"Despite all the mean things he says. Sometimes you need to put aside the words and look at the actions instead."
That's precisely what we Koch / Reason libertarians have been doing. Drumpf's "actions" include tariffs that have ruined the economy — Charles Koch's net worth is still stuck under $60 billion. Moreover, Drumpf has built concentration camps and put kids in cages.
Dont you mean repurposed the immigrant educations facilities Obama built into concentration camps?
I think they were technically "Re-education" camps under the Obama administration.
And at the close of one particularly free-associative word salad that hopped from the Afghanistan surge to Pakistani bases to weapons inspectors to the authorization for the use of force in Iraq, the perennial presidential contender simply concluded,
"I said something that was not meant the way I said it.""I shoudln't have hired Agile Cyborg as a speechwriter."Man, whatever happened to him?
He talked himself into a loop that he couldn't escape from.
to invest in community schools that offer resources like parents able to go back and get their GED
Where does this not exist?
Shhh don't bringing facts is racist and mansplaining.
Should be a comma between don't and bringing.
Don't worry, there are places you can go to get your GED.
Be kind of pointless since I have a masters degree (in animal science). Beef cattle don't mind the fact that Reason doesn't allow editing.
I have a master's in engineering. I know and work with lots of degreed professionals who should go back for a GED.
Must be a civil engineer.
Arcs and sparks
+1, for EE
I admit grammar is one of my weaker suits (spelling as well). I read vivaciously, but am indifferent to grammar and spelling. I usually do multiple edits and have other edit any professional work I do, because I realize my weakness in this regards.
I just have google translate go from english, to spanish, to chinese, and back to english for 100% perfect grammar.
punctuation overrated
It's not on youtube yet (or it's been scrubbed), but someone please put up Beto's Morning Joe interview on AR confiscation. It's a doozy.
I watch Morning Joe so you don't have to.
MSNBC SCRUBBED IT
Got the feed from one of their affiliates.
Beto on Morning Joe From 18:45 to 26:45.
Wow. He says that 40,000 of us are taken out each year by semi-automatic weapons and no one called him on it or asked for a source?? I just checked Wikipedia. In 2016 there were 11,004 gun homicides, 65% were handguns, 30% were unknown, and 6% were "rifle/shotgun". Even if half of the "rifle/shotgun" and ALL the unknown were semi-automatic that would be about 3600 a year. Nothing like being off by an order of magnitude.
Sure, you can try to add suicides and accidents to get the number bigger, but I've never heard a claim that many of those involve semi-automatic weapons.
They've implied it multiple times though.
It's not just the lies. Morning Joe lets them pass every time they have a gun banner on. It's amazing how much he bungled around in a soft interview.
And yet even Joe realizes just what a fucking disaster gun confiscation would be. He said as much. He might not have pushed back that hard on Beta, but he knows it.
Meghan McCain was right. There's gonna be blood if this happens. Something bad is gonna be unleashed, and when it does, that genie ain't NEVER going back into the bottle...
More and more Americans are fed up with all the bullshit from the democrats, and to a degree, establishment republicans like Paul Ryan. There will be a tipping point where people will organize and push back on these assholes, and push back hard.
As I've said before, if they try to take people's guns, what they'll get is the ammunition, singly and at speed.
Hey, nobody trying to shoot himself needs a 15 round magazine!
Look at me! I hit my foot on the first shot!
/Beto
Surprising, given that he manages to fuck his own asshole regularly.
It would be more than 3600/year. Most handguns are semi-auto or double action. It still an irrelevant point.
Suicides typically involve one shot, even when they are not successful. The mendacity of these people is amazing.
Should someone mention how well people in New Zealand and Australia complied with the law? And I love how he danced around the kicking down doors. Wonder what gun owners he talked to. Based upon membership in the NRA and GAO, you can deduct that anyone who belongs to a group that says "out of my cold dead hands" is probably not willing to voluntarily give up their guns. NRA membership is what, 5 million? Day 20% own AR-15s and "high" capacity magazines (it's actually probably over half). So that is 1 million easily who are less than willing to give up their firearms voluntarily. He knows that or he is a complete moron. Either is possible, actually.
Beto says that if there's a law, people will obey it. Of course, he also says that a wound from an AR-15 leaves an exit the size of an orange and that they're much more powerful than your average hunting rifle.
I stand corrected; they are not so much mendacious as just plain stupid.
Being willfully ignorant is being mendacious. These fascists have had 64 years to learn how an AR-15 works. 134 years to learn the difference between semi-automatics and other operating systems and they have done it. The ONLY way you can explain it is that they don't WANT to know how simple mechanical devices work.
Man, that's crazy. I've been assuming that this whole confiscation jibe has been a way to position themselves in the primary, but it seems like Beto at least genuinely believes that the legislative magic wand can be waved and americans will meekly comply. Since, y'know, Americans generally and gun owners specifically are known for their meek compliance with government edicts.
The thing that strikes me about it is that they apparently do not believe that this would have to come down to kicking in doors and widespread shootouts. I will choose not to don my tinfoil hat here and suggest that maybe they do and it's all part of the plan - seriously, none of our political operators have anything like the savvy or long view necessary to make that sort of conspiracy work. I also think that even should they come into power, confiscation will fizzle rather than creating endless police raids; in part, because I don't think they'll get the Senate votes, but even if they did I expect that most local sheriffs would refuse to enforce it, if only out of a well-considered interest in their own hide.
But even the attempt is only going to make this mess we have happening in Washington worse. I have some hope that this realignment we're going through will produce benefits in the long term, but I think it's gonna be worse in the short term than I'd expected.
If Beto read Reason, he wouldn't make these assumptions.
How to Create a Gun-Free America in 5 steps
I suspect that they figure the only doors that will be kicked in are those belonging to those horrible rednecks in flyover country and they don't even pretend to care about them. Shit, they'll probably laugh about it.
They haven't cracked a history book and noticed that the enforcement of Prohibition and The War On Drugs landed on minorities.
"They haven’t cracked a history book and noticed that the enforcement of Prohibition and The War On Drugs landed on minorities."
Democrat: And who are those minorities voting for?
Or maybe see what happened the last time the recognized government tried to confiscate guns. Pretty sure a bunch of half trained rednecks chase them all the way from Concord to Boston and inflicted heavy casualties.
I'm sorry.
Three debates and in all three the clear winner is Donald Trump. Compared to this lot he is halfway sane. At this rate there is no chance I'll even consider a 3rdd party protest vote like I did in 2016. We'll see what happens with expanded background checks, which seems to be the route the president is possibly thinking about. I have a feeling even this will get memory holed (rumor is the President is worried any gun control will hurt him rather then help him and he is growing cold to the idea).
soldier....I feel much the way you do. I have not voted for a Team D or Team R candidate for decades (Reagan 1984, GHW Bush in 1992). Frankly, I just don't see all that much difference between the two Teams. POTUS Trump, compared to this lot of Communist Dwarves, comes out pretty well policy-wise.
Since I live in the People's Republic of NJ, POTUS Trump does not stand a chance.
I live in Montana, but I'm thinking more about the popular vote tally then the EC. Tired of the trope about winning the popular vote, like that means anything.
I'd be careful Atlas. Going off of how big a boner the dems have for outting anyone who supports Trump in any way, I wouldn't be surprised if some more liberal states "accidentally" release the names of Trump voters
'Hey, Joe, instead of saying no we can't, let's say yes we can!"
IOW: "Fuck You, That's Why!"
best looking bulldozer on earth?
"Let's be constitutional! We've got a Constitution."
[We have ways of dealing with that.]
Is this the roundup thread?
That's another tired talking point we won't have to hear any more: "we have a living Constitution". Now they're coming out and saying what they really meant all along: "fuck the Constitution".
Outright hostility to the Constitution is in some ways better.
Give up with the Jedi mind tricks to make people imagine that the First Amendment and Second Amendment say something other than what they say.
They should just come out and say that they want to repeal these amendments.
Why repeal when you can just ignore?
They tried that with the 2nd for a long time with some success, but courts have started to make that a little more difficult. And the 1st is actually pretty well defended in most ways. So far.
Democrats only mentioned the economy once. The word recession only said once. OBL hardest hit.
I'm sure OBL would say the current recession is so bad that the Dems didn't even have to mention it because its awfulness is evident to everyone.
Best. Welch. Ever. Thank you for both spelling it out and making it hysterical. (Though, sadly, this isn't funny.)
We are living in the weirdest time.
The Democrats have spent the last two years screaming that Donald Trump is a dictator and literally worse than Hitler. Now, they all try to outdo each other impostering as the Next Great Dictator.
It took a lot of squeezing and squinting to make the add monkey in a suit that is Donald Trump into a dictator. Unfortunately, it does not take any creativity with this lot. They have uniformly stood up and screamed from the rooftops that they are running for socialist dictator of America.
Even two years ago, that paragraph would have been proof positive of tinfoil hat insanity. But today it is the reality we live in. A reality where trillion-dollar unconstitutional pork projects are bandied about without a word in opposition.
They even seem to be shooting from the hip with this stuff. At one point, since Kamala Harris went on a rant about giving 2 trillion dollars to historically black colleges, another contestant in the DNC dictator in Waiting contest gave a list of Education reforms aimed at Public Schools, specifically public schools, and then at the end just shoe horned in "oh, and historically black colleges as well."
Nobody seems to find any of this unusual. It is as if we stepped into Barack Obama's reality Distortion field back in 2008, and it finally broke in 2016. Apparently we are all living in a fever dream where our memories of a reality TV show are driving our dream state to give us a Trump presidency and a Democrat field where not only is Bernie Sanders not the crazy outlier, on many issues he's toward the mainstream.
On a refreshing note, Yang isn't even trying to pretend like his plan for victory doesn't revolve around how much free stuff he can give you.
soldier...Yang intrigues me. He is the only guy up there not a politician. And to be fair to Mr. Yang, Milton Friedman proposed using a negative income tax rate to accomplish much of what Yang proposes. Last time I checked, Milton Friedman was a 'Patron Saint' of libertarianism (Ok, I exaggerate a little). What I don't hear from Mr. Yang is how he would pare down entitlement spending with the implementation of his UBI plan.
But he intrigues me, nonetheless.
And that is a BIG difference. Friedman wanted to REPLACE welfare with the negative income tax. Yang wants to ADD it.
Not only hasn't Yang talked about pairing back entitlements he is on board with expanding them like everyone else, while still giving everyone money.
I wonder which terminology they prefer, "self-coup" or "autocoup".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup
"a form of putsch or coup d'état in which a nation's leader, despite having come to power through legal means, dissolves or renders powerless the national legislature and unlawfully assumes extraordinary powers not granted under normal circumstances. Other measures taken may include annulling the nation's constitution, suspending civil courts and having the head of government assume dictatorial powers."
You can't just wait for the Constitution to be changed or for this Congress to act!
The idea that we would wait for this Congress, which has just done nothing, to act, is just—it is overlooking the fact that every day in America, our babies are going to school to have drills, elementary, middle, and high school students, where they are learning about how they have to hide in a closet or crouch in a corner if there is a mass shooter roaming the hallways of their school.
Tell me again how democracy dies?
If true, and I doubt it is as common as some would like us to think, then the fault lies with the parents who permit (yes, "permit"), these schools to subject their children to such abuse. Of course, what better time to start beating into future voters the necessity of total obedience to power than in kindergarten? THIS is how democracy, and republicanism, dies.
I imagine there are more than a few parents who demand the stupid drills too.
With the emphasis on "stupid."
And any criticism of the drills is heard as "I don't care if children die."
At which point said critic shuts the fuck up and hangs their head, ridden with shame and guilt. People are such fucking cucks, LOL.
Duh. Hard to be an Overlord with any legal, i.e. Constitutional, limits.
I seem to recall that decades ago when he was interviewed on 60 Minutes he said he always carried a copy of the US Constitution. And he did chair the judiciary committee, where those issues come up.
"Let's be constitutional! We've got a Constitution."
["We have ways of dealing with that"]
I'm sorry, but I am still laughing out loud at the 'real-time decomposition' description of Creepy Joe from a Reason article I read yesterday. Whoever thought of that one deserves a raise.
word.
I think it was Nick. Who is kind of a hipster goof, but he comes up with some pretty good turns of phrase.
Yeah that had me laughing.
Perhaps sleepy-eyed Joe's sleepy eye came alive.
It is apparently pedantic to point out in 2019 America that waiting for legislatures to make laws (and for executives to sign them) is how this particular governing system was designed
A patriarchal, oppressive capitalist system built on meritocracy. Try to keep up with the new political waves, my neo-liberal broheim.
I thought his plan to do away with prison for non-violent crimes was super moderate...scratch that, it was super moronic.
People defrauding others should only have fines? Spies? There are plenty of "non-violent" crimes that everybody would admit justify criminal sanction.
Well....everybody except Biden, it seems. Because he's moderate or something.
How about crossing a border so you can work for some rancher in Texas? Ok, let’s make the situation a little more difficult. Say said rancher flouts environmental laws and puts up a sign telling us how liberals are ruining the country. Ok, yes, said border crosser is breaking the letter of the law, but— to be fair— he’s working for a bonafide patriot libertarian hero. Should we put border crosser in jail and separate his 5 year old daughter when we ship him back to Guatemala even if he is employed by such a noblese oblige?
Possession of an AR-15 is non-violent.
Libertarians are supposed to care about the Constitution?!? What kind of weak fucking sauce libertarianism are you guys into? Lame.
It’s pretty funny how despite all the bitching and moaning and bitching and moaning and bitching and moaning about Democrats they only control 1/6th of the 3 branches of government. Are you GOP lickspittles ever happy?
Boo fucking hoo... some politician is saying that we should get assault rifles out of elementary schools. Fuck that, slaver. What I want is for America’s totally well-adjusted elementary school teachers to be packing so that they can *really* enforce some fucking discipline!
Off your meds again, Hihn?
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every day in America, our babies are going to school to have drills, elementary, middle, and high school students, where they are learning about how they have to hide in a closet or crouch in a corner if there is a mass shooter roaming the hallways of their school
Yet she favours killing those same babies when they are just a few years younger than these she mentions, whilst those babies are yet within what SHOULD be the safest haven on the planet.. their own mothers' wombs.
Then she goes on a whinge about the drills, hunkering down because of a killer roaming the halls, etc, yet has come out strongly and unmoveably OPPOSED to allowing the ONE GROUP involved in our school system, who are always THERE, vetted, committed, proven, reliable, deeply committed to the children... to volunteer IF THEY WISH (thousands already have), take one week of intensive training (thousands have) on issues specific to their position and role.... then allow them, IF THEY SO DESIRE to attend their duties as teachers, admin, staff, janitors, cooks, etc, WHILE ARMED with their own handgun. No one will MAKE them do that (that would be beyond stupid anyway) al that has to happen is to end the PROHIBITION that prevents them from doing that. L
Look up and study the FASTER Saves Lives programme.. developed in Ohio in response to the Newtown school massacre. The programme is now in thousands of schols across the nation, has cost taxpers NOTHING whatsoever, i all volunteer, covers every aspect of what goes down when a thug enters a school and begins killing, and how to counter most of them. They also get intensive first responder medical care training too.
But Horizontal Harris opposes the concept and practice of alloing teachers, staff, etc, to be armed at school.
Funny ting, most who oppose such a concept wail and moan about how the kids will all be scared and not able to learn... well, so far, NOT ONE such trained adult has ever had a child even aware they are armed. Further, in all the two thousand school DISTRICTS where this plan is in place, there has not been ONE incident involving a firearm at one school in any of those 2000 districts.
Harris is full of hot air and is selling fear..
I keep wondering WHEN her bubble will finally be burst.. she CANNOT hold the office of President. She is NOT eligible. WHY hasn't she been called out on THIS one yet? WHO is asleep at the switch?
tbh... i never liked joe biden and idk why it makes me feel bad
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Biden...can it get any worse? Hillary maybe. Joe is likely to forget what country he is ruling and order the tanks to roll. Never mind, all the Marxists Dems will do that.
I must admit that I am surprised that Biden can get the entire word "constitution" out of his mouth without stumbling at least once.
And in the Last Days of the Old Republic, an unlikely hero emerged -- a rapidly aging national laughingstock whose obvious mental decline (which didn't exactly start from any intellectual heights) was shrugged off by a voting populace wearied of their apparent choices between a barely coherent nativist and an array of verifiable socialist geezers, wannabes, and power craving would be dictators.
And the voters were reminded once again that the best national leader is the one who accomplishes the least, leaving the people to their own plans, and leaving the appartus of government stable long enough for them to adapt to the burden.
Of course, the historians mocked him as a "do nothing" leader, ranking him near the bottom of their lists of Great Men, and the people turned back to the charlatans and demagogues 4 years later, dooming a once great and free nation.....
.......and yet the barely coherent nativist was the best president in decades.
"And the voters were reminded once again that the best national leader is the one who accomplishes the least, leaving the people to their own plans, and leaving the appartus of government stable long enough for them to adapt to the burden. "
Yeah, and I am working hard to figure out who, if anyone, in the real world, fits this description.... it's been a while.
Come on! Seriously!
Is this honestly the best the Dems have to offer?
I despair that any of these candidates could even contemplate becoming the president of America
It really says a lot about the nominees when Biden is their best choice in terms of objective policy and having his mind in the right place.
The only thing remotely resembling sanity will be Yang/Biden and it isn't a winning combination because Democrats are literally authoritarians now and Trump of all people is the normal candidate.