Immigration

Government Officials So Sorry That Their Own Rules Make Them Leave Kids in Filth

Rules always seem to make officials do terrible things when they don’t want to do what is right.

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Refusals by federal facilities to accept donations of diapers, soap, toothpaste, and other goods intended to alleviate the miserable conditions in which detained immigrant children are being held made the rounds this week courtesy of a report on the issue by The Texas Tribune. Federal officials improbably insist they need no help, and also point to the Antideficiency Act, which can be interpreted as prohibiting the acceptance of donations in most circumstances. It's an awful but hardly isolated case of government—a rule-making entity if there ever was one—insisting that it's bound to do terrible things by rules that it created.

The thwarted donations were motivated by recent reports about nasty conditions at immigrant detention facilities.

Inspectors "observed immediate risks or egregious violations of detention standards at facilities in Adelanto, CA, and Essex County, NJ, including nooses in detainee cells, overly restrictive segregation, inadequate medical care, unreported security incidents, and significant food safety issues," according to a June 3 report from the Department of Homeland Security's Inspector General. With specific regard to the matter of toiletries, "detainees were not provided appropriate clothing and hygiene items to ensure they could properly care for themselves."

This was just days after the same agency found overcrowding at another detention facility.

"The conditions within which they are held could be compared to torture facilities," reported Dolly Lucio Sevier after inspecting two detention facilities for children in Texas. "To deny parents the ability to wash their infant's bottles is unconscionable and could be considered intentional mental and emotional abuse."

Partially in response to reports of appalling conditions, the Trump administration requested $4.5 billion in emergency border funds, which the House approved this week. That would seem to confirm that the federal government took on bigger duties at the border than it was prepared to support, and that donations should have been welcome.

But, so sorry, the feds say, the law doesn't let us accept donated goods.

Well, maybe.

What the Antideficiency Act actually stipulates is that "an officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government may not accept voluntary services for either government or employ personal services exceeding that authorized by law except for emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property."

So, government officials and agencies aren't supposed to accept freebies and uncompensated favors. But that exception for "emergencies involving the safety of human life" would seem to leave a little wiggle room for donations of hygiene supplies intended to offset conditions so unsafe and unsanitary that a physician compares them to "torture facilities" and the government seeks emergency funding.

After all, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, also under the Department of Homeland Security, has a whole set of procedures for accepting life-saving donations and even a handout "to help citizens understand how FEMA manages donated goods."

But the immigrant detentions are part of a high-profile border policy under multiple administrations, on which the Trump White House has placed special emphasis. To accept donations would be to concede that, despite all the noise the federal government has made about the border "crisis," it's not up to the job of supplying toothpaste, diapers, and lice shampoo to the kids it makes sleep on concrete floors.

Conceding that would be embarrassing.

Pointing to the rules as disallowing donations, then, becomes a way for government officials to avoid admitting that they're just not up to the mission they've taken on. Make enough rules and you can bind yourself to all sorts of convenient actions and inactions!

As a crowd-pleasing, vote-buying measure, Illinois officials expanded their state Medicaid plan back in 2014. Hundreds of thousands of new enrollees signed up—far more than anticipated. Unable to find the money to fund the swollen program, Illinois officials just didn't pay the tab for patients treated by medical providers. They argued that Medicaid wasn't a "core priority" that had to be funded first and in full, unlike payroll and pensions for government employees. Sorry we can't pay our bills, but that would be against the rules we set for ourselves… 

When the unpaid bills tallied up to a whopping $3 billion, a federal judge ordered Illinois to cough up the cash and put the state government on a payment schedule. (Providers say they're still getting stiffed.)

What connects the unconscionable circumstances of border detainees with Illinois's deadbeatery?

Both are reminders that announcing grandiose policies is what politicians do, often to cheers and popular support. Following through, however, can be terribly inconvenient. It's very handy to have rules in place that you can point to as the reason you fail to live up to obligations and instead do irresponsible and awful things.

Irresponsible and awful implementation of grandiose promises can result in unpaid bills and sick kids lying on filthy floors. Sure, government does terrible things intentionally, but perhaps it's at its most contemptible when officials make promises and then tie their own hands so that they can act only in a half-assed way, making matters worse. They even—as we see in the case of the border detention centers—tie their hands so that they can avoid a bit of humiliation by letting members of the public undo some of the damage that has been done.

"We are looking at the possibility of using some of those donations going forward," a Customs and Border Protection official told reporters Tuesday. That raises the possibility that a few diapers and fresh lice combs might make their way to the detained kids even before new federal funds filter through the system—courtesy, I guess, of a newly convenient interpretation of the law.

It's fascinating to watch competing public relations priorities at work as outrage overwhelms embarrassment.

Fundamentally, nothing will have changed in the way government does what it does. Look for officials to continue making rules that "force" them to do terrible things when they don't want to do what's right.

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  1. Then when people are slipping stuff into the soap and toothpaste, the government will be blamed for that too.

    Just STOP with the propaganda!

    Nobody is buying it except Lefty dipshits.

    There illegals want a hearing and are getting a hearing. They can self-deport at any time. Most dont have legitimate claims of asylum because being poor is not a valid reason for asylum in the USA.

    Luckily, we have Trump who is standing up to Lefties. Lefties dont give two shits about non-Americans kids and are using them as pawns in this TDS game. This is a sick game of using citizenship to buy votes and keep the Democrat Party from dying, slaves to do yards and laundry while cowering in the dark, and trying to stop Trump.

    1. Religious adherance to a Party Line is more important to you than human life? Isn’t it?

      Here are moral and legal things that could be done instead of rounding up people and tossing them into Concentration Centers / Detention Camps and not providing them with basic human dignity:

      1) Send then home. I mean seriously. If the whole point is that you don’t want them here, then stop keeping them here by putting them into facilities. Send them back. Done.

      2) Provide them with the basic human dignity that we accord to even criminals. We treat these people as less than human beings. As less than even those sitting on death row. They are put in conditions far far worse than Federal prisons, worse than the POW camps we ran in WWII, worse than the Internment Camps we tossed Japanese into.

      3) Stop using Obama as an excuse to be a fuckhead. “But Obama did it so it’s okay for us to do it too!” is makes your momma ashamed to have even raised you.

      1. 1) Send then home. I mean seriously. If the whole point is that you don’t want them here, then stop keeping them here by putting them into facilities. Send them back. Done.

        They can leave

        Except for those who were caught having already violated the border, the rest can simply go home. We will even help–though we are under no obligation to do so.

        2) Provide them with the basic human dignity that we accord to even criminals. We treat these people as less than human beings. As less than even those sitting on death row. They are put in conditions far far worse than Federal prisons, worse than the POW camps we ran in WWII, worse than the Internment Camps we tossed Japanese into.

        See above.

        Why is this so hard to grasp?

        And no–it is not worse than the internment camps. Those people weren’t seeking asylum or illegally immigrating. FDRS goons went to their homes and took them to prison camps–just like Hitler’s Stormtroopers did. They didn’t know if they were going to face the same treatment. AND not only couldn’t they leave, but many, if not most lost their homes and livelihoods at the hands of FDR.

        NONE of these people are in a situation anything like that.

        Stop pretending that they are.

        3) Stop using Obama as an excuse to be a fuckhead. “But Obama did it so it’s okay for us to do it too!” is makes your momma ashamed to have even raised you.

        It’s not ‘Obama did it so it’s okay’–it’s ‘this is the law that Obama left us’. He could have fixed this–because it started long before Trump was president. But he didn’t.

        So now Trump’s gotta fix it. Why should he have to listen to the people who REFUSED TO FIX IT when they had the chance–all of them, dem, rep, and other?

        1. “So now Trump’s gotta fix it. Why should he have to listen to the people who REFUSED TO FIX IT when they had the chance–all of them, dem, rep, and other?”

          So what you really want is a king not a messy representative government. Well there is something to be said for that. Monarchy is a very efficient way to govern.

          1. Trump was duly elected. Your full of shit echospinner, as usual..

            1. *youre

            2. As President not supreme ruler. My problem is, and not starting with him, the power of the executive has grown out of control. Why have a congress at all? I have not questioned that he was elected.

              Which President is immaterial. Congress needs to do its job and put some breaks in place.

              And I have not gone to the level of personal insults with you. I do not play that game. I been around long enough that I am immune to that stuff but I find it boring and non productive.

              Besides is dipshit the best you can come up with? Show some creativity.

              1. Sorry full of shit, either way not very original.

                1. Who needs to be creative when people like you say the things that you do.

                  Dipshit describes you well.

                  You know what you say.

      2. Brandy, cut the dramatic hyperbole,. You’re selling, but no one is buying.

        1. Racist uneducated yahoos hate immigrants because they need someone to blame for their personal failures. Succesful people are not worried that immigrants are coming to take their joobs and their women.

          1. Yes, some People are like that. That has nothing to do with this discussion. We’re talking about illegals. Not immigrants.

            As usual, you’re confused.

          2. You’re no Kirkland, eunuch.
            But nice try

        2. “Brandy, cut the dramatic hyperbole,. You’re selling, but no one is buying.”

          I’m buying!!! It is NOT cool, when other folks decide for me, what I am, and am not, buying!!! I buy, treating other people the way that I want to be treated! Just because they are beaners, does NOT mean that they are vermin instead of people!

          1. I wa referring to people who actually count. Not morons.

      3. 1) Send then home.

        Once they have requested asylum, they cannot legally be sent home until they have had a hearing on their claim.

        2) Provide them with the basic human dignity that we accord to blah blah blah

        The government agencies in charge of this cannot just snap their fingers and make new facilities appear to accommodate the catastrophic increase in “families” illegally crossing the border. If this tsunami of border crashers can’t be quickly abated, perhaps we’ll have to invest in more and better detainment facilities. That can’t be done overnight.

        3) Stop using Obama as an excuse to be a fuckhead. “But Obama did it so it’s okay for us to do it too!”

        Stop demanding instant solutions to a problem that was decades in the making, under more than one administration.

        1. Obama created this situation. Anything bad that happens is his fault, along with congressional democrats and open borders republicans. Trump is just trying to clean up their mess.

      4. Did someone say party line???

        Leaving anyone to the mercies of bureaucracy is inevitably evil. But do tell me how you are ‘opposed in spirit’ but accepting in practice…

      5. 1) Send then home. I mean seriously. If the whole point is that you don’t want them here, then stop keeping them here by putting them into facilities. Send them back. Done.

        They can leave any time they want. They also didn’t have to come in the first place, they could have stayed in their country of origin or applied for asylum in Mexico. Both the reason that they are here and that they stay here is their choices, nothing else.

        Religious adherance to a Party Line is more important to you than human life? Isn’t it?

        “Party line” has nothing to do with it. These pricks cost me many thousands of dollars every year in taxes. They are trespassers, squatters, and thieves.

        Here are moral and legal things

        The moral and legal thing to do is to kick them out and ban them for life from the US. Unfortunately, Democrats and many Republicans keep blocking the moral and legal thing from happening. Instead, they want to prop up a system in which money is forcibly taken from American citizens in order to finance this absurd violation of US borders.

      6. Poor brandybuck shithead.

        He cannot read so good. He thinks supporting Trump’s libertarian-ish things done means supporting a party.

        All these non-libertarian types like brandybuck just cannot wrap their head around libertarian principles.

      7. “Religious adherance [sic] to a Party Line is more important to you than human life? Isn’t it?”

        It’s a fallacy that detained illegal immigrants’ lives are threatened, but it is a fact many of these people risked their lives crossing the border, and if the BP didn’t pick them up, they may have died.

        If you, and obviously the Democrats, don’t like the law, then why don’t they work with Trump to change it? Oh, it seems adherence to the Democrat party line is more important, and they want to blame Trump for the problem they refuse to address. And they walked away from working with Trump on the problem, and refuse to address it. Remember, all these “problems” existed under Obama, and they still want it the way it is.

    2. They can self-deport at any time.

      I’m not sure that’s true. Can you cite the law or rule?

      1. The same rule that made them come here in the first place… oh yeah, it isn’t a rule but a personal choice. No one made them come. A person standing at the border could decide it isn’t worth it and go back home.

        And the government didnt cause the influx of people… but it also didnt do anything to stop it. As such, it isn’t right or fair to blame the government for there not being enough physical goods needed to serve these people. It would be like blaming you for being a bad host of a flashmob barged into your house demanding you put them up for the week. You could try, but it isn’t your fault you dont have enough beds, food, etc. There is no reason you should have had that stuff in the first place so why blame you for not having it now?

        Dont get me wrong, I’m ancap. But that doesn’t mean I accept invalid and illogical arguments against the state simply because I hate the state. I can expect others to be logical even if they may ultimately be on my side.

        1. Unresponsive.

          1. Your request for a citation is nonsensical in this context.

            1. There has to be a policy about whether detainees awaiting hearings on asylum claims are free to leave the country or not. Why is it “nonsensical” to ask that the policy be cited?

          2. iCE asks the illegals if they want to self-deport. Reason has done numerous articles on it.

            I will cite tomorrow from non-iPad if I remember.

      2. That’s standard immigration law that applies to all immigrants (take it from an immigrant like myself). If you have no legal right to be in the US, you have two options: voluntary departure or deportation. When an asylum seeker withdraws their asylum application, that’s the status they enter. If they asylum seeker doesn’t fight leaving the country, it is usually quite quick. The only reason people illegally present in the US are detained for months or longer is because they maintain their asylum claim and/or fight deportation.

        1. When an asylum seeker withdraws their asylum application, that’s the status they enter.

          What is the process for withdrawing an application? Would there have to be hearing?

          1. On second thought, try browsing the DHS website.

            Lots of info to answer your “great” questions.

            1. I was hoping maybe the people making the assertions would be able to back them up easily. Forgot where I was for a moment, I guess.

              1. It takes about 10 seconds to find the USCIS Asylum Procedures Manual youself.

                Let’s not kid yourselves: you “Vernon Depner” are a self-righteous, ignorant troll, nothing more, not someone interested in genuine, rational debate.

  2. FEMA trailers, perhaps?

    1. Put them up at Chemjeff’s place, whether he likes it or not. Although given his past statements, I would keep a close eye on my kids if I were staying at his place.

  3. 2Chilli really doesn’t grasp his audience here. The commentariat has mostly been furiously fapping while moaning “YES YES! HARDER DADDY TRUMP, HARDER!!” at every new atrocity. Because we all know anyone (well, anyone brown an poor) loses their human rights and thus are at the mercy of the collective when arrested.

    1. You went full progressive.
      Never go full progressive.

      By the way, how many illegals stay with you? How many have you sponsored? How many beds did you buy the facilities? How many meals? How much time have you volunteered?

      I know, I know… “but think of the children!”

    2. Yes it is an atrocity that an ostensibly starving 300 pound 12 year old beaner has to live on public largesse in facilities indistinguishable from the average Chicago public school because his “mother” running an underage prostitution ring and “father” working the drug tunnels want to get a green card. I’m crying so hard I can’t even get my wood up for the torture porn.

    3. I’m old enough to remember when the commentariat was mostly libertarian. Now the exact same people are rabid Trumpistas viciously mocking anything resembling freedom and principles.

      1. Are you suggesting that putting the world on our welfare system is an idea worth serious consideration?

        Because that’s what open borders gets you.

      2. To be fair, most of the real libertarians left, because they couldn’t deal with these Trump fanboy yokels. And yes, others were initially attracted to the movement because they perceived it as protecting their insular fantasies, and never grasped the full implications of individualism. They will leave sooner or later.

      3. I remember the old Yahoo groups before all this. Libertarians were radical individualists then.

        1. You’re thinking anarchists not libertarians.

          Libertarians are fine with tiny and limited government.

          1. I think you are too young to remember but the discussions were interesting and not all this flame war stuff although they got heated at times.

            1. Its super easy to pick out libertarians from anarchists.

              Libertarians are fine with tiny and limited government.

              It wasnt a debate. It was anarchists trying to muddy waters and hide as LINoS.

          2. Anarchy or quasi-anarchy is what these migrants are fleeing in the first place, you know.

            1. Hahaha. Its all socialism. Every single south American country has socialists in charge. Varying degrees but all socialists.

              1. You really are a very stupid person.

      4. The greatest guilt of today is that of people who accept collectivism by moral default; the people who seek protection from the necessity of taking a stand, by refusing to admit to themselves the nature of that which they are accepting; the people who support plans specifically designed to achieve serfdom, but hide behind the empty assertion that they are lovers of freedom, with no concrete meaning attached to the word; the people who believe that the content of ideas need not be examined, that principles need not be defined, and that facts can be eliminated by keeping one’s eyes shut. They expect, when they find themselves in a world of bloody ruins and concentration camps, to escape moral responsibility by wailing: “But I didn’t mean this!
        Ayn Rand

        1. The greatest guilt of today is that of people who accept collectivism by moral default

          Oh, I agree, Esmeralda Overdrive, it’s pricks like you who want to take my money and my property at gunpoint in order to give economic migrants from South America lots of free stuff and give the Democrats lots more political power.

          It’s pricks like you, Esmeralda Overdrive, who create “bloody ruins and concentration camps”.

          1. And yet Daddy Trump broke ground first.

            Really, is this all it takes to buy your soul? Phantom bogeymen to heap blame upon for all your failings in exchange for trinkets and an illusory sense of belonging to the superior tribe and you obediently shut off your critical thinking,

            1. Goddamn you’re a stupid fuck. You must be incredibly insufferable to be around.

              I suggest suicide.

            2. Trump didn’t “break ground” on detention facilities for illegal migrants; they have existed for decades, and not just in the US.

              And, Esmeralda, I’m an immigrant myself. I came to the US to escape socialism and oppression, and I will fight the attempts by authoritarian creeps like yourself to destroy one of the few refuges in the world where people can live freely by flooding it with illegal migrants.

              But make no mistake about this: I do not consider America a “superior tribe”. Should people like you succeed in destroying it, I’ll be leaving, as will most of the other skilled, successful people who are currently making America’s economy so strong.

        2. Damn, Ayn Rand really pegged the open borders crowd

      5. Brandy, I remember when the commentariat wasn’t filled with open borders progressives demanding that millions of foreigners be housed, slopped, and cared for on the public dole.

        1. That isn’t what we are asking for at all!!! To hell with the welfare state! I just want for these “illegal sub-humans” to be given an equal chance to mow my lawn for me! Native-born spoiled folks will NOT complete; their welfare checks get in the way! So how do you call that “fair”?

          1. You are one of the few here who gets it.

            1. “No borders! No wall! No USA at all!”

          2. I want welfare gone too, along with all the illegals.

          3. “That isn’t what we are asking for at all!!!”

            Yes, it very much is.

    4. Esmeralda, if you don’t have at least 20 ‘asylum seekers, plus all their children living in YOUR home, then you are a murderer. Responsible for the ‘atrocities’ that befall them.

      1. …plus all their “children”…

        FIFY

        1. Very nice, thank you.

      2. I think it is the antithesis of what you are saying.

        As an individual Esmeralda is no more responsible for a migrant than she is for the Shitlord family. You are assuming that she has a collective responsibility based on a national boundary. She does not. Nations do not have rights only individuals do.

        The only argument you can make against it is a consequentialist one because of welfare and other collective expenses, not a moral one.

        Ok but I am against welfare and government education from the beginning. Or just say that only taxpayers or citizens should be offered those things. What about the so called illegal immigrant who works, pays for his own and his family, obeys the law, and pays taxes. You OK with that?

        1. Esmeralda demands better conditions be provided to illegal migrants.
          We demand she take responsibility for her wishes and do so herself.

          1. We?

            Esmeralda did not lock up these people in the first place. You have no right to demand anything of her. Rather your position is to demand that these people be detained by the government. As asylum seekers they violated no laws.

            Where did the libertarians go?

            WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party acknowledges that economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders:

            NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party condemns and opposes efforts to build a governmental border wall, be it through congress or gross abuse of authority in an ill-founded declaration of emergency.

            BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party supports the natural right of freedom of movement of all peaceful people, for any reason, subject only to rights of other individuals to control their own privately owned property.

            1. That “peaceful” is a huge loophole.

              1. Always focus on the individual.

                1. No. That would be stupid.

                  1. Then we are are on different places on the y axis.

                    Can you give a more coherent response? Stupid is not a thesis.

                    1. You go first. Give us your thesis on why we should always focus on the individual, even though people often act as nations, armies, parties, agencies, corporations, cartels, churches, gangs, tribes, clans, clubs, families, etc.

                    2. For goodness sake Vern it is libertarianism 101

                      Only individuals have rights. This is the basis of the natural law theories upon which libertarian thought is based and what distinguishes it from other political theories.

                      What I am saying is that in every discussion of governments, law, whatever we are talking about it is essential to focus on what does this mean for and how will it affect the individual. That is the basic unit of all morality. Even Rand saw that.

                      Even in economics we talk about the transportation industry as a whole because it is a useful and convenient thing to do. Yet there is no such thing in reality with a purpose and a goal. It is the choices and efforts of millions of people each one pursuing his or her individual interest. It arises spontaneously.

                      Start here if you wish. A simple summary from a real libertarian. Then you can delve into the subject from there if you want to. Or don’t it is none of my business.

                      https://www.cato.org/commentary/key-concepts-libertarianism

                    3. Hey Vern I went first.

                      Your turn.

                    4. Fuck your condescension.

            2. “We?”
              Those of us pushing back on her. The words are right there in the thread. They’re even in English.

              “Esmeralda did not lock up these people in the first place.”
              Ok. Don’t see any claims that she did, but sure.

              “You have no right to demand anything of her.”
              Fuck you. I have the right to demand anything I want. Just as you have the right to meltdown and say stupid shit that makes you look like an unstable moron.

              “Rather your position is to demand that these people be detained by the government.”
              Did I say that? Nope. But I will now. Yes, they should either be denied entry into the US or detained. They’re even allowed the choice.

              “As asylum seekers they violated no laws.”
              Not if they applied at a port of entry or embassy. If they crossed into US territory prior to requesting asylum, they did break the law.

              “Where did the libertarians go?”
              You’re going all ‘where muh [faith] gone’ – hilarious. Contrary to your progressive/reflexively progressive perspective, I don’t think libertarians are a hive mind. Maybe I’m wrong. But it’d pretty damn conceited for you to consider your word the supreme authority on libertarianism.

              “WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party acknowledges that economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders:
              NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party condemns and opposes efforts to build a governmental border wall, be it through congress or gross abuse of authority in an ill-founded declaration of emergency.
              BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Libertarian Party supports the natural right of freedom of movement of all peaceful people, for any reason, subject only to rights of other individuals to control their own privately owned property.”
              Fuck the Libertarian Party. I’m not a member, and what I’ve seen from them publicly and acts in official capacity gives me no cause to respect them. Some individual members have earned much respect, but the Party is shit. I do give them credit for sucking up donations for campaigns to not win offices. Pretty tricky.

              1. ““You have no right to demand anything of her.”
                Fuck you. I have the right to demand anything I want. Just as you have the right to meltdown and say stupid shit that makes you look like an unstable moron”

                Oh no I am a very stable moron. Actually most people just think of me as a pedantic bore who veers into the obnoxious when drinking. I haven’t been yet tonight. Have a little work to do later. Been doing some bookkeeping on the side for a couple of Asian run brothels on the east coast. They send over the receipts for the night in about an hour and the boss likes to have the report ready by morning.(wink)

    5. Illegal migrants aren’t “arrested” they are “detained”. And they don’t lose their human rights at all; they can return to their home country any time they want. US tax payers are even generous enough to pay for it.

      The US has no obligation to these migrants at all, either morally or under international law. Even if they were legitimate asylum seekers, they would be obligated to stay in Mexico. Most of them just come here to take advantage of the benefits of being a US resident, benefits that US tax payers are forced to provide at gunpoint.

      1. And that every major Dem candidate for President wishes to expand exponentially.

  4. If elected, I will create a Bureau of Bureaucracy, charged with creating a framework under which bureaucrats thoroughly check each other’s work.

    1. The Department of Redundancy Department?

  5. I have an idea. Instant deportation for all comers when the facilities are full.

    As people are processed we can accept more asylum seekers.

    Then we can decide how much money we are willing to invest in asylum processing rather than letting the seekers set our budget.

    We can offer free transportation to Canada.

    1. I have an idea. Shut down the centers. Hand them a card with a phone number for the nearest INS office to where they intend to go. Explain that the office will help them explain how to obtain temporary legal residency status and what they can do after to apply for more permanent status.

      Explain that if they do not call they could be at risk for legal proceedings including deportation.

      1. I can’t tell whether you’re being sarcastic or stupid.

        1. It’s a good joke.
          I laughed

      2. Explain that if they do not call they could be at risk for legal proceedings including deportation but probably won’t be because progressive morons will howl and wail about the injustice of being required to abide by immigration laws. Assuming these people can even be found once they fail to show up.

        FTFY

      3. “Explain that if they do not call they could be at risk for legal proceedings including deportation.”

        Which you would then oppose because “they broke no laws”.

        You know they’re being detained because there is a large tendency to NOT show up for their trials and all. And progs want to protect those people.

        1. You use the term prog in place of something you do not understand. It does not mean what you think it means.

          I am not at all a progressive liberal. That is very different from a libertarian.

          What I am suggesting is that when you detain someone in a government facility it entails a responsibility which I do not want.

          Better to give the person their own responsibility.

          What immigration law should be I do not think we will agree upon.

  6. Remember when Glenn Beck went to the border with a truck load of teddy bears to give out to the children, but most of them were actually tatted up 25 year olds shooting heroin and fucking bitches and he looked like the world’s biggest chump? If there were a 1 to 10 scale for pandering bullshit, that would hit about level 6 and this puff piece would be about a 12.

    1. I missed that. I’ll have to check YouTube. And by ‘bitches’, do you mean chicks, or weak little punks like Chemjeff?

  7. Imagine being kidnapped from your home country and dragged to a place of such misery and destitution with no means of escape. What an awful situation those mean, mean white men have foisted upon those poor, poor doe eyed beaner babies.

    1. Trying to do OBL from the other side, eh?

    2. I love how the racism, as well as the shame of deep personal failure, always seeps through with these immigrant haters.

      1. I’m an immigrant. It took me two decades to become a US citizens, and I have always contributed massively to the US tax base.

        These migrants are not immigrants, they are squatters who want to enrich themselves at the cost of US tax payers.

        And these illegal migrants are the descendants not just of Europeans, but of slave trading European imperialists who didn’t become democratic until late in the 20th century and who took over the majority of the Americas. They are no more “brown” than your average Spaniard or Sicilian. On what possible historical basis do you think Americans owe these people anything?

      2. It must make you feel slightly less alone, eunuch, to know there are others with similar feelings to your own.

        To be or not to be, that is the question.
        One of these days you’ll finally get the right answer

  8. FFS, Tucille. When did you go full proggie? Too much Arizona sun? Reason HQ must have offered you a job, or perhaps there is some other motivation for this mendacious, POS essasy.

    None of the hateful bureaucracy is compelling these people to cross the border, but you already knew that.

  9. When I read “filth” in the headline I assumed he was talking about the countries of origin of the migrants

    1. They must be real shitholes

  10. children are dying on the National Mall?

  11. Liberal officials won’t accept donations because such might mitigate the situation that the Democrats are using to hammer Trump. Non-liberal officials doubtless expect any tiny deviation from the strictest interpretation of the rules to be used to fire them and replace them with Liberal partisans.

    1. It doesn’t matter. The progtards have completely overplayed their hand. Like everything else they’ve pulled, it’s all just white noise in the background anymore.

      1. Hell, Wayfair employees wwalked out rather than ship beds to the kids whose plight they claim to care so much about.

    2. Trump caging children is liberals’ fault.

      Such a strong leader.

  12. The border should be closed. Zero immigration for 10 years.

    1. I would process the people already in legally in line. No need to punish the ones actually following the rules.

      1. You and I both know that the days of answering “why” in the reason comments are long gone.

  13. Government employees on the ground do not make the rules and laws they have to follow. That’s done by legislators and administrators at the capital.

    1. Which explains why it is such a cluster fuck.

      I thought it is mostly done on Twitter these days.

      How about we just agree on what we basically want to achieve then outsource it to the folks at amazon to come up with an efficient, simple and cost effective process.

      1. I’m picturing large drones flying over The Wall and dropping deported illegals in Mexico.

        1. I think the drug smugglers are way ahead of that curve.

  14. There were more invaders than planned for.

    How many invaders would Reason suggest we provision for in advance?

    1 million? 10 million? 100 million?

    Of course the answer is 0, as Reason wants Open Border and *no* checks on Invasion USA.

    Funny how I don’t see the same outrage from Reason about the unsanitary conditions in major CA cities caused by Invasion USA.

    How do you like the Typhus outbreak in LA? Has it reached Reason’s offices in LA? Or did you all move to the imperial metropolis like good globalists?

    Good old Dr. Drew is going berserk as he expects a major epidemic in LA soon from the filth, rats, and flees.

    1. You will never get an answer on how many illegals or immigrants should be allowed.

      1 million. 1 billion. 1. The Lefties want as many non-Americans to flood the USA as possible.

  15. Parents and children fleeing death are not invaders, you racist fucking psychopaths.

    Do the world a favor and emigrate to the sun, you goddamn deplorable fucks.

    Oh, did I hurt your feelings? I so sowwy. Being called deplorable is, indeed, far, far worse than living in a cage and shitting yourself for the crime of fleeing certain death.

    1. Poor Tony has had a bad 2.5 years since Trump was elected.

      Deportations and wall building. Now gerrymandering to keep Lefty lunacy at bay in Red states. Now citizenship questions on the 2020 Census was okayed by the SCOTUS.

    2. Parents and children fleeing death are not invaders

      Who in Mexico is killing them?

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