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British Police Have Arrested Julian Assange. Prosecuting Him Would Gravely Threaten Press Freedom: Reason Roundup

Plus: Watch socialists try to rationalize Bernie Sanders' wealth.

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Police officers have arrested WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and taken him into custody.

Assange had been living in the Ecuadorean embassy in London for the past 6 years, using diplomatic immunity protections to shield himself from arrest. But Ecuadorean officials had grown weary of the arrangement, in part because Assange continued to involve himself in world affairs, and also because he had become a difficult houseguest. According to The New York Times:

President Lenín Moreno of Ecuador said on Twitter that his country had decided to stop sheltering Mr. Assange after "his repeated violations to international conventions and daily-life protocols," a decision that cleared the way for the British authorities to detain him.

The relationship between Mr. Assange and Ecuador has been a rocky one, even as it offered him refuge and even citizenship, and WikiLeaks said last Friday that Ecuador "already has an agreement with the UK for his arrest" and predicted that Mr. Assange would be expelled from the embassy "within 'hours to days.' "

Video footage showed a bearded Mr. Assange being taken down the steps of the red brick embassy in the wealthy area of Knightsbridge in central London by several plainclothes police officers and put into a gray police truck that was waiting to take him away.

Here is video footage of the arrest:

Assange could face extradition to the U.S., where authorities wish to prosecute him for leaking classified documents. He could also be compelled to give information regarding the release of Democratic National Committee emails in 2016 and whether Russia was responsible for the hack.

Surveillance whistleblower Edward Snowden has condemned the British and Ecuadorean authorities for violating United Nations human rights decrees. "The United Nations formally ruled his detention to be arbitrary, a violation of human rights," writes Snowden. "They have repeatedly issued statements calling for him to walk free—including very recently."

The Intercept's Glenn Greenwald is also criticizing the Trump administration for its willingness to prosecute Assange. "The Obama [Department of Justice] concluded that prosecuting WikiLeaks and Assange for publishing documents would pose a grave threat to press freedom," he wrote. "Dems who spent 2 years feigning concerns over press freedom but who now cheer the Trump DOJ for this are beneath contempt."

Indeed, bringing charges against Assange for publishing the secret documents he obtained would set a very dangerous precedent, since this is something journalists do all the time. As Bradley P. Moss wrote last year in The Atlantic:

If Assange can be prosecuted merely for publishing leaked classified documents, every single media outlet is at risk of prosecution for doing the exact same thing. There would be no way to differentiate a traditional media outlet such as The New York Times or The Atlantic from an entity like WikiLeaks without involving the government and the courts in the formulation of a legal definition of what qualifies as a part of the press. Is it only a traditional outlet like a newspaper or a television network? What about legal bloggers who do freelance work? Or how about online-only platforms? Is one more deserving of First Amendment protection than the other? This is not something I want the government deciding in a criminal context.

Here is the Justice Department's statement.

FREE MINDS

A student has filed a lawsuit against Syrcause University for abridging his due process and free speech rights, which led to university represenatives admitting in court that the institution doesn't actually believe in protecting free speech. According to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education:

In court documents recently filed by Syracuse University in response to a student's lawsuit alleging free speech and due process violations, SU admits that it does not promise its students free speech. The admission is the culmination of SU's disappointing history of violating its students' expressive freedoms.

SU's concession puts in words what FIRE has known for a while—SU simply does not recognize the expressive rights of its students. Although SU is a private university not bound by the First Amendment, it makes institutional promises to respect student expression, stating that it "is committed to the principle that freedom of discussion is essential to the search for truth and, consequently, welcomes and encourages the expression of dissent." And while many private institutions at least pretend to follow such promises, SU decided that even that was going too far.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) has faced a lot of questions about when and whether he will release his tax returns. CNN recently asked him about his wealth, and the democratic socialist replied, "I wrote a best-selling book. If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too." Work hard, create something people like, and make money—it sure sounds like Sanders appreciates capitalism more than he lets on, at least when he's the beneficiary.

Hardcore Bernie fans on the socialist left have been grappling with Sanders' declaration ever since. Splinter's Libby Watson tweets that Sanders making money off book sales might be OK because he's not exploiting anyone. (I suspect she forgets that a whole lot of books are sold by this company.) "But in general there's a conversation to be had about how much wealth you can have before you're bad, and I don't know that a million dollars in today's money is it," she writes.

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Update: This article initially misstated how long Assange has been living inside the embassy.

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  1. …and also because he had become a difficult houseguest.

    Just like Sinbad.

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  2. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I?Vt.) has faced a lot of questions about when and whether he will release his tax returns.

    good, we’ve learned to focus on substance after the coverage that helped get Trump elected.

  3. President Len?n Moreno of Ecuador said on Twitter that his country had decided to stop sheltering Mr. Assange after “his repeated violations to international conventions and daily-life protocols…”

    He kept saying, “You call that a knife?”

    1. And he kept peeing in the bidet.

    2. All house guests bring happiness. Some when they arrive. Some when they leave.

  4. “Dems who spent 2 years feigning concerns over press freedom but who now cheer the Trump DOJ for this are beneath contempt.”

    But…but…Russia. Fever Dreaming was not without consequence.

    1. Give us an example of a Dem cheering the Trump DOJ and it’s ridiculous how Glenn is so quick to always walk right past Trump to attack Democrats.

      1. Greenwald is awful isn’t he? Many people suspect he’s on Putin’s payroll. Even if he isn’t, he sure behaves like he is.

        #GreenwaldRussia

      2. Neera Tanden
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        @neeratanden
        3h3 hours ago

        There are many cultists on this site, but the Assange cultists are the worst. Assange was the agent of a proto fascist state, Russia, to undermine democracy. That is fascist behavior. Anyone on the left should abhor what he did. Not celebrate it.

        1. Are we excluding the corporate press which has largely been demanding Assange’s head since Russia Fever Dreams?

        2. That person is right about Assange and I don’t see the “cheering for the Trump DOJ”. The comment basically implys Trump is a proto fascist, hardly cheering. There’s nothing wrong with calling Assange out for helping Trump and Russia.

          1. You are an idiot and I fear that you don’t realize that

            1. Then maybe you should express the basis for your belief and we can move this along. You have to know I think you’re deceptive and possibly an idiot for the way you mischaracterize Russia’s role in the 2016 election

              1. If you believe in Russia Fever Dreams you are an insane conspiracist. It’s pretty simple. That was always a wild conspiracy theory that never made sense and it was peddled by the same people who peddled Iraq WMDs. The fact that you still cling to it just shows that you were so severely butt hurt that Clinton lost that you decided to put sanity aside. You’re not well.

                1. How do you define “Russia Fever Dreams”? That’s all you ever say.

                  1. The nefarious “muh…Russia and Trump did….something….to stop her and IT WAS HER TURN!” It is perhaps the most moronic conspiracy since birtherism, except birtherism wasn’t being peddled by a corporate press that has squandered all credibility

                    1. Russia did hack Clinton’s campaign manager and the DNC. Do you believe it?

                    2. Show me the evidence

                    3. His name was Seth Rich

                    4. No one knows because the DNC destroyed its server without letting the FBI examine it. Which is totally something a normal person would do if believed they were the target of an international espionage attempt. Nothing to see here, folks!

                      Assange says he didn’t get his info from Russia. He has demonstrated himself to be more trustworthy than the DNC or the police state.

              2. This is really funny

                1. I cant wait to re-discuss the suicide of Seth Rich and the two bullets in his back.

                  Trump is a mutherfucking genius for knowing that he did nothing illegal and letting the Mueller investigation play out. Democrats fully endorsed a Trump Administration Special Counsel to investigate wrongdoing and threatened to action if the Special Counsel was dismissed.

                  Now Trump will turn a Special Counsel loose on the Deep State which links Hillary, Biden, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Loretta Lynch, and likely Obama into a massive conspiracy to violate the Constitution and federal law.

                  Plan B is that so many Democrats flee the Party of slavery that the Democratic Party disappears as a political force in national politics.

                  1. Trump is a mutherfucking genius for knowing that he did nothing illegal and letting the Mueller investigation play out.

                    I don’t know about genius, but it does suggest a decent understanding of political maneuvering and human behavior. He certainly knows how to give people enough rope to hang themselves with.

                    1. And Trump’s experience playing with both Teams has evidently given him the skill to know what they will stand on to hang themselves.

                  2. I want the drugs you’re on.

                    1. Drug called- Reality

                      Lefties avoid it as much as possible.

          2. I consider Assange a hero. Anyone that is cheering this arrest is an enemy of freedom.

              1. At the same time, Assange doesn’t seem to have helped himself very well. Living cooped up like that could not have been easy, but a house guest who pisses off the house owner can’t expect the house owner to not get tired of the living arrangements.

                1. That’s an excuse that Ecuador is giving. The US applied pressure on them to end Assange’s diplomatic immunity. I don’t trust the narrative on this

                  1. Yes, but Assange was playing their game; he should have paid more attention to their rules.

                    1. Ecuador recently had an election… rules changed.

            1. Assange is playing the long game. He thinks working with fascists to defeat moderate Democrats will usher in more revolutionary leftist types but maybe I’m wrong.

              1. I think it’s safe to say that you have never been right about anything here. Including this sentence that you just wrote. TDS has rotted your brain

                1. Whatever you’re just wrong again.

              2. Ordinary Person|4.11.19 @ 10:15AM|#
                “…but maybe I’m wrong.”

                Remove “maybe” and include nearly every post you’ve ever made here.

            2. +1

          3. “”There’s nothing wrong with calling Assange out for helping Trump and Russia.””

            What did he do to help Trump? If the DNC emails exposed bad behavior by the DNC, it’s their own behavior that made themselves look bad.

            1. Come on man. You’re arguing that Trump wasn’t helped by Assange attacking Hillary.on.the very day the Access Hollywood tape was dropped. I can’t even.

              1. I’m arguing that the DNC is responsible for their own behavior. Can you understand that?

                1. I can understand that you excuse the crime that allowed for the information to get released. So if I were to break into your house and expose your darkest secrets it’s all good because your shouldn’t have been thinking those naughty thoughts.

                  1. His name was Seth Rich

                  2. OP’s still salty that Mueller broke his stupid, bitchy heart. Maybe he’ll do the world a favor and cut himself.

                    1. OP would like criminal charges applied to all persons who handle DNC stolen information.

                      The thief, Seth Rich, committed suicide with two bullets in the back.

                    2. Seth Rich’s death is and has always been considered a murder. The official theory was that he was the victim of a mugging gone bad.

                      I don’t believe anybody has any evidence other than coincidences to say what happened, and the people closest to the case all deny that he had no involvement in the leaked emails. Of course those people have quite a large motive to hide such involvement. But at worst that makes them as trustworthy as the people who are pulling conspiracies out of thin air.

                      Regardless of all that, parroting this “committed suicide” nonsense is obviously an attempt to make the official explanation seem absurd by deliberately misrepresenting what they have said. It is bad form, and makes your arguments look even more unhinged.

                    3. Overt, it’s a joke because the official explanation is as stupid as the claims of people killing themselves when it was murder.

                      He was shot in the back…twice… and the supposed robbers never took anything.

                      Recalibrate….now….

                    4. “Regardless of all that, parroting this “committed suicide” nonsense is obviously an attempt to make the official explanation seem absurd by deliberately misrepresenting what they have said. It is bad form, and makes your arguments look even more unhinged.”

                      Yes, this is the first time I’ve seen suicide alleged. Maybe it’s just confusion from explanations of other suspicious deaths, but it isn’t a good look.
                      Seth Rich was murdered. This is not disputed. What is disputed is the nature of that murder.
                      “Attempted robbery” rings hollow when the murder took place on a street with average property values of $800k+ and $2500/month rents (and it was the only violent crime in the area, which sees mostly car break ins), the shots were to his back while he was on the ground and in an area with audio monitoring to bring prompt response, nothing of monetary value (watch, phone, wallet) was taken, responding police cameras went “missing”, the fatal nature of injuries was questionable, and there’s a 2-hour gap between the bar closing and his walk home (time of murder).
                      His was the only, or 1 of like 3, unsolved murders in DC that year of a white victim.
                      It was a hit.

                    5. It is however super convenient that his murder was never found.

                  3. “”So if I were to break into your house and expose your darkest secrets it’s all good because your shouldn’t have been thinking those naughty thoughts.””

                    Your analogy isn’t even close. I would have a problem with the person breaking into my house. However if I did something stupid like leave a key under the mat I would feel partly responsible. In this case the stupid action is Podesta clicking on phishing link.

                    Wiki didn’t hack the DNC.

                    However, it’s IS fair game for journalist to print materials the were a product of a crime. The Pentagon papers for example.

                    1. OP where you slamming Wiki for their lawless actions when they released stolen materials regarding the Bush admin and wars?

                      I’m guessing no.

                    2. Noone hacked the dnc. Podesta opened the door by opening a dubious phishing email…that he had the dnc i.t. Department review!

                      If that’s hacking, then hitting a deer with a car is also hunting.

                  4. Well at least your admitting that wiretapping carter Paige was illegal then

              2. Come on man. You’re arguing that Trump wasn’t helped by Assange attacking Hillary.on.the very day the Access Hollywood tape was dropped.
                And who was attacking Trump that day?

        3. Thanks for introducing her to me.

          She calls them cultists. Judging from what I read on her Twitter account and the comments from her followers seems like projection to me.

          They’re useful idiots and don’t know it.

          1. Lol.

            From her Wiki page. Standing there with Podesta and O’Malley.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neera_Tanden

            G.T.F.O.H.

            1. +10

        4. “There are many cultists on this site, but the Assange cultists are the worst. Assange was the agent of a proto fascist state, Russia, to undermine democracy. That is fascist behavior. Anyone on the left should abhor what he did. Not celebrate it.”

          Looks like OP has found an ally, and a fellow ignoramus.

        5. He got confused about his mission and hurt the wrong people.
          Leaking US government secrets that Republican administraions don’t want released is good. Leaking emails that show Hillary built up Trump because she and the DNC thought he’d be a pushover, and kneecapped Bernie is bad.

          Actually I would be fine sending Assage to prison for life, but once Obama pardoned Bradley Manning, the one who did the illegal leaking, then going after Assange, the one that did the publishing, which is probably not a crime, then I guess you have to give him a pass too.

      3. I’m glad they add NPC bots to make things interesting

        1. Reason interns also get their beaks wet trolling on here.

          1. Speaking of weird conspiracy theories…

            1. I guess we will never know with NDAs.

              Unless Stormy Daniels starts working at Reason and takes over ENB’s beat.

  5. Sanders making money off book sales might be OK because he’s not exploiting anyone.

    what about compulsive book buyers!

    1. And ghost writers.

      1. And the editors who lose brain cells reading that shit.

    2. And Chinese printers and binders.

    3. What about the trees?

      1. Haha. I have not heard Lefties go on about saving the trees since the 1990s when they attacked most product made of paper, so manufacturers switched to plastic based products.

        Paper grocery bags vs plastic grocery bags.

        1. Obv, the only effective solution is to limit the number and size of items we prols are allowed to buy.

          1. Yep, everybody gets 1 rope mesh bag that will hold just enough for you to eat for one day. Then you have to get back in line. Should work out just fine.

            1. Why would you need more than you can carry at any given time? What are you, some sort of kulak?

              1. I saw this stupid lady who had 5 of those mesh bags, filled with groceries, looped over her arms walking from the grocery store.

                Why don’t Lefties care about the Planet and just wheel a grocery buggy to their bicycles and dump the groceries into the baskets? No paper, plastic of cotton bags required.

    4. to be morally consistent though, Sanders should share his book proceeds equally with his fellow presidential candidates

  6. To think the Brits once fought for freedom.

    1. You anglophiles are ridiculous

    2. The Brits once acted like they fought for freedom.

      Even Brits that founded the USA, still had slavery to begin with.

    3. When was that? The Brits have always been sons of bitches. Even they were fighting Nazis they were bastards trying to hold onto their empire.

    4. Glorious Revolution and the Bill of Rights, bitches!

      1. Yes, back when the populace wasn’t wealthy enough to fund an all-powerful government. But this will self-correct. The UK split from the EU will leave them both to their own self-destructive ways. Witness the huge fines levied on high-tech foreign firms; they’ve already reached the limit on their own money, will soon run out of other people’s money, and then their decline will run the pendulum in the other direction …. one hopes.

        1. The smart ones emigrated to the U.S. and Oz in the 19th century. They left behind the socialists and the appeasers.

          1. +100

    5. To think the Brits once fought for freedom.

      When was that? 1775? 1812?

  7. “But in general there’s a conversation to be had about how much wealth you can have before you’re bad.

    to be or not to be is not a question, its clearly not to be.

    1. There are exceptions for the Party bosses.

    2. The answer is $4 million, adjusted for inflation.

      1. Bzzz, incorrect!

        The correct answer is: Bernie Sander’s net worth + $1

      2. With $4,000,000, you could invest, and take out 4% each year and it would probably keep growing (not a lot, but most likely enough to keep up with inflation). That would give you ~$160,000 each year.

        Depending on where you live, that either puts you in middle-class (super-expensive cost-of-living areas) or lower-upper-class (rest of US). It’s a big chunk of change to most folks (median US household income is ~$60,000/year), but not “super-yacht” levels of big. We’re talking “successful lawyer or doctor” or “retired well after a life of work” levels of comfort, not “predatory CEO” levels of comfort. McMansions, not mansions.

        So yeah. When people are drawing a line between “earned wealth” and “unearned wealth”, that’s probably about where they’re thinking.

        1. “So yeah. When people are drawing a line between “earned wealth” and “unearned wealth”, that’s probably about where they’re thinking.”

          I’m sure this made sense in your head.

    3. A million? Jesus fucking Christ. That’s like a normal person.

      Normal people are the evil rich now?

      1. I don’t think you’ve been paying attention. Of course the norms are the evil rich now. They simply aren’t paying enough in taxes.

        The left has been railing on special interests and millionaires not paying their fair share for quite a few years now. Who else were they talking about?

      2. super-qualified liberals with masters degrees in comparative literature don’t have a million bucks, so yeah

  8. I AM you.

    Why didn’t someone warn me I was becoming delusional???

    1. This reveal justifies my self loathing.

      1. Norm Macdonald
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        @normmacdonald

        Norm Macdonald Retweeted Eric Swalwell

        This is fine news, indeed. It explains my self-loathing.

        1. Are you stealing jokes from Norm Macdonald now, Sarwark?

          1. Damn it. I follow Norm too. I should have seen that.

            1. You’re alright, BUCS

              1. You misspelled “alt-right.”

                1. But not ctrl-left.

            2. And evidently Norm follows you.

  9. If Assange is brought to the USA, the 1st Amendment would protect his right to speech. The UK has no such right but Assange is evidently Australian anyway.

    Compelling Assange to attend a Grand Jury is bullshit as only Defendants are constitutionally guaranteed …to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor…. Grand Juries are not.

    1. Re: loveconst….. Oh, plesse, you fool no one.

      the 1st Amendment would protect his right to speech.

      Especially since Orange Potatoman is so respectful of it –the Constitution–, he grabs it by the pussy.

      Right. Sure. Assange has nothing to fear…

      Idiot Trumpista.

      1. If only Trump weren’t president, Assange would be free. If only

        1. Well Manning’s sentence wasn’t that bad and Assange is a cis-het white dude who didn’t swear an oath to any nation or military so he’ll get a better sentence and better treatment during that sentence, right?

      2. Is this the same old Mexican from a few years ago?

        If it is… this might be one of the worst cases of TDS I’ve seen.

        1. Yes, he is really demented Mexican now. Sad.

        2. Old Mexican is alright.

          1. I think you mean “alt-right”

            1. This joke worked when I accused BUCS of being alt-right just for following Norm, but I am not sure how it applies to Old Mexican.

              1. He’s alt-alt-right. Or perhaps ctrl-alt-right.

                1. Hihn is ‘delete’

                  BOOM!

                  *drops mic

    2. The UK has no such right

      You’re hilarious.

      1. Your citation fell off.

        1. Speaking of citation wankers …..

          loveconstitution1789|12.3.18 @ 10:20AM|#

          Do you need me to link the rules of NAFTA and USCMA so you can compare and contrast the “worseness” for us?

          Yes, please harp on citations. They are important ways to make points in trivial cases.

          1. Poor Alphabet troll has never compared and contrasted NAFTA and USCMA.

            Maybe someday its script will be programmed to do so.

            1. Poor constitution troll can’t even recognize his own fake promises.

              FWIW, I did compare NAFTA and USMCA; USMCA is worse is most aspects, especially those which Trumpistas trumpet the most, such as minimum wage and environmental coercion. But I wouldn’t expect a Trumpista to remember anything negative about Trump.

              1. Poor Alphabet troll. Short on specifics because it is not scripted to compare and contrast the two managed trade agreements.

                NAFTA hurts America, so lets stick with that….ammirite?

        2. Your citation fell off.

          Well shit, you’re right. I’m sure I can’t find any occasions of you being hilarious.

          1. Or that the UK has a protected right to free speech.

          2. Besides, you have to have a sense of humor to get my hilarious jokes.

            I cite your comment.

  10. “It’s almost as if someone said “No one has less knowledge of science, a higher opinion of himself, and a bigger carbon footprint than Al Gore” and Kerry replies “hold my champagne, I’m going to testify as a climate change expert.”

    “Hold my champagne” really makes this *chef kiss*

  11. Don’t be fooled for a second: Welchie Boy and all the rest of the Obama/Hildog/Deep State loving progressive fairy queens of Reason are going to celebrating all day long today.

    1. I don’t get it. This is incomprehensible even for you.

      1. I don’t get it.

        Your future epitaph.

        1. I still don’t get it.

          1. Obama, Hilldog, Clapper, and John Brennan all work at Reason now, I think? Or Matt Welch loves them?

            1. Either way, Reason is not run by Libertarians nor is it a Libertarian-centric publication.

            2. Dave Weigel ate them.

          2. He’s afraid Assange might have damaging info on Trump or his associates and he thinks Reason is cheering the arrest because of that expectation. That he absolves Trump of any responsibility for Assange’s arrest is beyond my comprehension.

            1. I’ll say this- you are thoroughly insane, but if the piss tape is found I will be very pleased. That would be the most hilarious YouTube clip ever.

              1. Lefties like OP will never admit that Trump might actually be what you see.

                Every Lefty and their British spies tried to find any criminal activity on Trump and they found nothing.

              2. Huh? What does the pee tape have to do with this? Russia was leaking helpful stuff for Trump. Assange would not have that tape if it existed. I was referring to the longtime Trump associate Roger Stone and whether Assange would have information that would further expose Stone to criminal charges.

                1. I was just expressing my hope that there is a piss tape.

                  But, yeah, clearly there is new damaging information that will prove your wild conspiracy theory to be true. It’s not as if a House investigation, a Senate investigation, a special counsel investigation, and an endless deluge of investigations by the corporate press have found no proof to justify your insane position or anything.

                  1. People can’t even agree that finding the piss tape would be one of the most glorious days in internet history? No one wants to watch a grown man be pissed on by Russian prostitutes? How could you not want to see that?

                    You are all terrible people.

                  2. We found out Trump was trying to do business with Putin during the election. We found out Trump et al met with the Russian govt to trade dirt on Hillary for sanctions relief. We found out Trump’s NSA guy was undermining the Obama by backchaneling the Russians and lying about it to the FBI. We found Manafort was deep in debt to a Putin crony. We found out Roger Stone was working with Wikileaks to maximize the damage from the Russian hacking. We found out Trump lied about his contacts with Russia during the campaign. We found out Trump lied about not having business with the Russian govt.

                    1. We found out Trump was trying to do business with Putin during the election. We found out Trump et al met with the Russian govt to trade dirt on Hillary for sanctions relief. W

                      All of that is a complete lie. We found out the Russians wanted to trade dirt for sanctions relief but Trump wanted no part of it. The truth is that the FBI and the CIA tried to set Trump up to do just that and he turned them down.

                      Stop fucking lying about this.

                2. The bright side of Lefty Russian fever dreams is that Trump will get even more Electoral College votes than 2016.

            2. No, I feel bad for Assange because he’s a dead man walking, he’s going to be murdered by lowlife scum like you, the same exact way that Seth Rich and Antonin Scalia were.

  12. Hardcore Bernie fans on the socialist left have been grappling with Sanders’ declaration ever since.

    That sonofabitch! Kick his ass!

  13. The Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald is also criticizing the Trump administration for its willingness to prosecute Assange.

    Hmmmm. I despise both Greenwald (for his #TrumpRussia denialism) and the Drumpf Administration. Not sure whose side I should take on this one.

    1. Never be afraid to criticize everyone.

    2. You despise Greenwald for fallacious “reasons”. That shows just how unreasonable you are.

      Orange Potatoman is everything you can think of –an odious white supremacist, an economically illiterate bufoon, a man of no character or principles, a boastful, bombastic and amoral nincompoop (no wonder Trumpistas are in awe of him), but a Russian asset? Please. That would be a plus. No, Trumpistas can’t and shouldn’t count with that excuse. He is indeed what he is, as troublesome as the thought of it may be. He IS the reflection of deep America, for everyone else to see. He’s not a Russian asset, a Manchurian candidate. He is what they are. Now you get to know your neighbors. It’s like finding out the guy who was quiet and kept to himself is indeed a serial murderer.

      1. “It’s like finding out the guy who was quiet and kept to himself is indeed a serial murderer”

        So people who lean Right are akin to serial killers…. Glad to know where you stand.

        And here I thought keeping my head down and working hard was American, turns out I’m a serial killer

      2. I think you’re a little unfair to people who voted for Trump, but at least you still have the brain capacity to realize that there are things to criticize Trump for that doesn’t require inventing a conspiracy theory that worsens relations with a nuclear power.

        1. You’re alright, Old Mexican

      3. It’s like finding out the guy who was quiet and kept to himself is indeed a serial murderer.

        First, this can’t possibly be right as, by your own premise, there was never a time when Trump was quiet and kept to himself.

        Second, we’ve been over this. Until the cattle cars start rolling and ditches start getting filled with bodies in this country he’s still just a wannabe serial killer. Definitively not worse than the other neighbors who roll cattle cars and fill ditches in other countries with bodies as policy.

        1. It’s more like finding out the guy who was constantly shouting about the fucking neighborhood has gone to hell in a handbasket would make rash decisions that people might not like and might not approve of.

          The man has said he could shoot someone in 5th and get away with it. The only person that will be surprised to discover he, in fact, has killed someone will be you. Even then you’ll only be surprised because that’s the rehearsed reaction for the discovery that every one of the last several Presidents and candidates would drop soldiers into a meat grinder and blow the shit out of brown-skinned civilians at the drop of a hat.

          1. Take you pills, dude. TDS is working overtime on you today

    3. Oh noes! OBL is going to have to think for itself for once! The shock, the horror, of being in the same predicament as Trumpistas!

    4. OBL, you may have listened to the most recent Reason podcast on which Gillespie and KMW both admit to being open borders supporters, Welch hedges, and Suderman is just assumed to be OB. Your heart would float to the heavens on hearing those admissions.

      All libertarians immediately disown those traitors to freedom and property rights.

      1. The libertarian position is open borders. Always has been since the birth of the libertarian philosophy. It is ok to be opposed to open borders, but you can’t criticize libertarians for being consistent.

        1. Have they been consistent, though? I hear a lot about an “open southern border”, but I never hear much about “open borders” policies that would benefit immigrants not coming from the southern border. Are all immigrants from Mexico now?

        2. The libertarian position is open borders

          No, that’s the anarchist position.

          1. Anarchists are just consistent libertarians.

            1. Except for the tiny and limited government part Rule of Law part.

              Libertarianism

              Anarchism

              Two different political philosophies and terms for a reason.

              1. *under Rule of Law part

              2. There is nothing inconsistent with an Open Borders policy and a tiny, limited government. Indeed, a government that does not interfere with peoples’ rights to travel is pretty tiny and limited.

                1. Anarchists don’t want a -state- nor rules limiting border travel.

                  Libertarians want a state that might or might not have strict border travel rules.

              3. Not (socialist) anarchism, Anarcho-capitalism.

            2. Anarchists crack me up.

              They refuse to form their own Anarchy-Land.

              So then they latch on to Libertarianism and claim that the two ideologies are the same.

              1. “They refuse to form their own Anarchy-Land.”

                You keep trying to kill us.

                “So then they latch on to Libertarianism and claim that the two ideologies are the same.”

                You get NAP! And you get NAP! Everybody gets NAP! (And nothing gets to violate it!)

            3. Anarchists are just consistent libertarians

              Lol, not even close.

              1. An-Caps are. We believe in NAP so hard that we don’t consent to ANY violations of it.

                Also, An-Caps believe in borders, they are called “property lines”.

                1. Except Anarchist-Capitalists are against National Borders.

                  “Property lines” of a sovereign state.

                  Your citation fell off where you describe this Anarchy-Land, where everyone tried to kill the An-Caps living there.

                  1. Except Anarchist-Capitalists are against National Borders.

                    Of course they are. They don’t think national governments are a real or legitimate thing.

              2. No, it’s pretty close. Libertarians have to cheat a little bit (if consistency is the game) to justify taxes, borders and other little things that necessarily violate the NAP.

                Embrace the inconsistency. Sometimes that’s needed in practical compromise. That’s the whole immigration debate we have on here. Do we stick closely to libertarian principle, or do we compromise that principle for the sake of maintaining slightly more libertarian values.

            4. Anarchists are just consistent libertarians.

              So then, one way or the other, the claim “The libertarian position is open borders. Always has been since the birth of the libertarian philosophy.” is a lie.

              1. So then, one way or the other, the claim “The libertarian position is open borders. Always has been since the birth of the libertarian philosophy.” is a lie.

                Yup.

              2. How is it a lie? I suppose if you mean that not all self-proclaimed libertarians have been for open borders it is.

                But it depends on how you define libertarianism. If the NAP is the central principle, then how is using force against people who just want to walk from one place to another justifiable?

                1. “If the NAP is the central principle, ‘

                  Let me stop you right there. It isn’t. Some want it to be, but to others it’s based on an impossible idea, that “aggression” can be usefully defined. The NAP is a guide, not an inviolate principle.

                  Self-ownership is a better central principle. And it has been present in libertarian doctrine since the beginning, unlike the kludge that is the NAP.

                  1. That’s why I said “if”. I understand that this is an ongoing debate.

    1. Not so many sick people?

  14. I see you. I hear you. I’m for you. I AM you.
    ? Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) April 9, 2019

    NSA has same motto.

    1. The NSA is the only part of government that DOES listen to the little people.

    2. That’s also Alexa’s response to “What is Alexa?”

  15. I see you. I hear you. I’m for you. I AM you.

    Get your damned dirty hands off my daughter you freak!

    1. Um, what did you just admit here?

  16. Of course the Democrats want Assange’s head on a silver platter. Wikileaks was not supposed to embarrass the Party by exposing how they actually operate. It is touchingly naive for Greenwald to think the Democrats have principles rather than interests and will refrain for exacting revenge for disloyalty.

  17. Yea Massie got Sassy and your friend Molly and her hoard of loser feminazis tried to attack him while Nick scolded her.

    1. Propagandists gonna propagandize

  18. The National Enquirer is for sale.

    The Weekly World News finally overtook them. And printing in color is too costly.

    1. I thought WWN folded a while ago.

  19. “Watch socialists try to rationalize Bernie Sanders’ wealth.”

    You KNOW the drill: “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”

  20. Is Swalwell running for president or creepy cult leader?

    1. Um, yes?

      1. He forget to gather followers first. Now he just sounds like a nut.

  21. All of these missteps have “earned” SU perennial consideration for FIRE’s 10 Worst Colleges for Free Speech, and the school made the list in 2012 and 2019.

    Note that Syracuse has had one of the top journalism schools in the country for decades, pumping out graduates that have gone on to have national profiles.

    If the Department of Journalism is not speaking out against these restrictions, it means the professors, and by extension their students, are okay with these oppressive policies as well.

    1. Can you name anyone in the corporate press that actually supports free speech or even basic rudimentary protections of the First Amendment for people not within their “journalist” caste? I think Syracuse is teaching them the double-think that they need in order to work for CNN, NYT, or WaPo

      1. I would not be surprised if “journalists” are taught that they have special rights under the 1st Amendment.

        Freedom of the press, means “Press” after all.

  22. The Augusta National brings a huge amount of money into the city of Augusta, GA, and being such a travel destination, it’s important for them to control the land around the golf club so that it doesn’t all turn into tourist trap blight.

    Being so integral to the city’s bottom line, eminent domain would be an obvious strategy, but, instead, they found a way to sidestep the whole eminent domain process–it’s kind of a crazy way to do things:

    “To further insulate one of the most hallowed grounds in American sports from the outside world, Augusta National has bought and demolished entire residential blocks and commercial strips. It has purchased properties more than a mile from its iconic clubhouse. And it is hardly slowing down.

    . . . .

    Augusta National has expanded its territory by more than 75% using its foremost instrument of power: mountains of cash. In a city where, according to Zillow, the median listed home price is around $125,000, the club often pays several multiples of the assessed property value.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/au…..554897600?

    So, here’s how this crazy scheme works: When a property comes on the market that they want, they outbid the other bidders. If there’s a property they want that isn’t on the market, instead of using local government to steal it, they offer the owner a multiple of what it’s worth to move–until the owner finally says “yes”.

    Who knew such a strategy was even possible?!

    1. Crazy talk!

    2. When will the government step in and dismantle this system of Oppression by Making Property Owners Rich?

    3. Across the street from the club is a shitty strip mall. Augusta is a shithole – the club is the nicest part of the town.

      I also recall there were two home owners that abutted the course who said they would never sell – I wonder if they are still holding out.

      1. Actually, their children are being held out, as part of an offer they can’t refuse – – – –

  23. “Early look at H&R Block data shows average tax bill dropped in 2018”
    […]
    “With tax season drawing to a close, H&R Block reports that its average customer paid $1,200, or 25 percent, less in federal tax in 2018 than 2017, providing one of the first pieces of hard data on how the federal Tax Cuts and Jobs Act is affecting people in the real world….”
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/bus…..ate-result

    Starve the beast!
    (may be pay-walled)

    1. Great news.

    2. The problem is people gauge their taxes by the size of their refund, not how much they actually pay, so they are still convinced they paid more

      I’m waiting for a politician to realize this, hike taxes by 20%, then give 10% larger refunds and call it a tax break for the middle class

    3. Man, I got HAAAMMMMMERED by taxes. My deductions were reduced by nearly 80%. We knew that it would be bad, since the wife and I both have good jobs in California. But we had already bumped up our withholdings significantly last year in preparation, but we didn’t withold enough.

      I do enjoy seeing my liberal friends squirm as they try to demand people pay more taxes, then see their taxes go up (and they are not poor people).

      Unfortunately, this probably will come bite the GOP in the end. They have basically ceded the moral argument against double taxation, which will make getting further improvement on things like dividends harder in the future.

      1. You most likely paid less in taxes overall.

        2018 Tax Reform Impact: What You Should Know

        You could still itemize but for most people the increased standard deduction lowered their tax bill. Tax brackets changed to go down for most people.

        It will bite Republicans in the ass if they don’t publicly defend the lower taxes. The Lefty’s propaganda is running at over time on it. “More Americans getting a lower tax refund” blah blah

        You’re a moron to give the Treasury an interest free loan so you get a tax refund. You could possibly pay for your tax filing costs (if applicable) if you invested your tax liability in the stock market instead of paying extra to the government each year.

        1. No, I payed quite a bit more in federal taxes this year. My effective federal tax rate on gross income in 2017 was 28.7% and my effective tax rate in 2018 was 30.2%. So in overall dollars as well as percentage of gross income, I am paying more. And FWIW, as I said, we expected to pay more, but not this much.

          This isn’t controversial- it was an expected change. The whole purpose of limiting SALT and mortgages was to punish high earners in liberal states. If their taxes had gone down, it wouldn’t have been a punishment.

      2. Technically its not double taxation.

        Taxable income is taxed on each person.

        If you get a state tax refund and must pay federal taxes on that money, its because that state tax money was deducted from your paycheck (pre-tax), so no taxes were ever paid on it. Its still taxable income as if you dont have any state taxes deducted each month.

        Its good people are bitching about taxes. People realize taxes are too high even after the tax reform.

        1. It is still double taxation. The reason why the Federal system always allowed deductions for state taxes was that it is money the taxpayer never saw. It was literally taken away- an expense of living or doing business in that state. By taxing it, you are taxing that income for federal taxes and then for local taxes- two taxes and therefore double taxation.

          When states talk about levying their own taxes on, say, dividends, tax hawks legitimately point out that the money was already taxed as income at the company. It doesn’t make any difference if the corporate taxes had included State income tax- the fact that the total nut was reduced by taxes once, then reduced again by taxes later is double taxation.

          State- and federal- refunds are taxable because it is money in the previous year that was not taxed- it had been taken from you rather than earning it. Interestingly next year I will be taxed on my paltry CA refund even though the majority of it was not deductible via this year’s taxes.

      3. Our federal return actually skyrocketed from last year, by nearly 400%, but that’s mainly because we have kids and the child tax credit was doubled. If that hadn’t changed, it would have been about the same as last year. I ended up owing on state, though, which fucking sucked. That’s the first time I’ve ever had to pay out on a state return.

        We don’t have a lot of things that we can claim as deductions, although that might change now that we live in a area with high property taxes. We’ve always had to take the standard deduction because itemizing never got us above the baseline.

        1. You sound quite conused, I would be really surprised if you never had to pay state income taxes in California, since my 90 year old mother living on her teachers pension has to pay thousands in state income taxes every year.

          You are just confused about whether your withholding covered your taxes.

          That’s not something my mother gets confused about even at her age, money is money, no matter when you pay it, although I suppose it does matter a little when you are floating an interest free loan under durress.

    4. Meh. I liked my big ass return every year. The extra on my paycheck just gets pissed away since I don’t follow a strict budget.

      (And fuck off for those who would lecture me for giving the govt a no interest loan. I get it, but really don’t care to track my paycheck to that level of pedantry)

      1. It’s not a lecture. Its another reason why we should not let Lefties make so many decisions for us via government.

        Many/Some of them cannot even manage their own finances responsibly and save for retirement.

        This guy Eric admits that he pisses away his paycheck.

        1. I said fuck off above. Shoo!

          1. Poor Eric the Lefty. Shitty with money but demands we all cover his failed life.

            Living paycheck to paycheck.

            Then poor Zeb covers for him.

            Poor non-Libertarians amd their hatred for fiscal responsiblity.

        2. It’s his paycheck.

  24. Record-breaking blizzards continue to slam the Rockies and the northern plains, as parts of Wyoming and South Dakota are climbing toward 2 feet of snow.

    How’s that “global warming” working out these days for y’all out west there? ROFLMAO.

    1. That’s why it’s called “climate change” now.

      #ILoveScience

    2. Mikey, you really are special. God bless you.

    3. There is something to the suggestion that every bad weather event is somehow blamed on climate change–but the same people seem to want to poop on the suggestion that every good event is evidence to the contrary.

      California’s drought conditions are over.

      “Tuesday’s manual survey at Phillips Ranch showed snowpack at 200 percent of average for that location. Statewide, snowpack was at 162 precent of average. The state’s six largest water reservoirs hold between 106 and 132 percent of historical averages for early April.

      “With full reservoirs and a dense snowpack, this year is practically a California water supply dream,” said Department of Water Resources Director Karla Nemeth.”

      http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n…..53741.html

      Living in California, you hear a lot about how severe drought and severe fire seasons are the new normal. Only an irrational climate change warrior could see the end of a drought as a bad thing.

      1. Hell the drought was over two years ago when dams were spilling over.

      2. Then there is this.

        http://wattsupwiththat.com/201…..ing-again/

        1. I understand NASA is a legitimate source for data like that, but it doesn’t confirm my preexisting biases–so I’ve decided not to believe it.

      3. This is the problem with California: We get 2-3 really wet years then 5 – 8 years of really dry weather. But since the news people all compare the current year to the “Average” we are always getting way above or below average. I have been in and out of this state for close to 20 years now, and it amazes me how even people who have lived here for all their life spend 2-3 years with the weather one way, then when it changes, say things like “This rainy/dry weather is so different for California!”

    4. “How’s that “global warming” working out these days for y’all out west there? ROFLMAO.”

      Weather != Climate.

      1. Actually, that post was so unbelievably stupid, it had to be parody. I should not have responded.

        1. You Lefties cannot help it.

          You must post the Narrative as it is commanded of you.

  25. “Attorney General William Barr says he believes the FBI was ‘spying’ on Trump’s 2016 campaign”
    […]
    ” Attorney General William Barr said Wednesday that he would review whether the FBI was “spying” on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
    […]
    “I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal,” Barr said, adding that he believed “spying did occur.” ”
    http://www.businessinsider.com…..ign-2019-4

    Pretty sure no one is looking for their shocked face; drain the swamp. Oh, and toss the hag in the slammer.

    1. The media gaslighting on this one is astounding. Apparently surveillance is not the same as spying and it was for Trump’s own good so it doesn’t count. So say Clapper and Brennan who are totally reliable on tires issue and have no ulterior motives whatsoever.

  26. Ecuadoran, Ecuadorian, or Ecuadorean?

    1. “other Mexico”

      – Fox News

    2. I think “shithole” is the preferred nomenclature.

  27. Elizabeth Warren is a loser. Let me show you why.

    Here’s the latest national polling average:

    Biden: 31%
    Sanders: 21%
    O’Rourke 9%
    Harris: 9%
    Warren: 6%
    Booker 4%

    http://www.realclearpolitics.c…..-6730.html

    As I’ve pointed out before, this early, a lot of this is about name recognition, but, even so, more people know who Warren is than know who O’Rourke and Harris are–and they’re both kicking her ass. It’s as if people know about Warren–and they do not want her.

    If people already know you and don’t like you, you’re not about to improve that situation by introducing yourself to them through advertising, but Warren could shake up the race through negative advertising. The problem for Warren is that, through the end of March, she’s been getting her ass handed to her on the fund raising side, too:

    Sanders: $18.2 million
    Harris: $12 million
    O’Rourke: $9.4 million
    Warren: $6 million
    Booker: $5 million

    http://www.cbsnews.com/live-ne…..g-efforts/

    That giant sucking sound you hear is Elisabeth Warren’s campaign circling the drain.

    1. Even funnier is that Uncle Joe Biden has not even declared running for President in 2020, yet he is ahead of Bernie ‘Berned Out’ Sanders and Welchie Boy’s Boner Boy Beto.

      1. I think Buttigieg is the new fancrush of the Reason staff. They are all competing to write the “I always dreamed of voting for a gay man” article next spring.

        1. You might be right. IIRC, Welch was the person writing all the Beto articles.

          Reason might be rooting for a Democrat, Buttigieg, who is into butt sex. The jokes write themselves.

          According to Reason, Trump is not even in the running for President in 2020. Trump is against Buttsex, ‘Mescians, and drugs. Oh wait, he’s not.

      2. Biden is done before he begins, though. That groveling apology is a sign of weakness. The people complaining about his creepy over-touchiness aren’t going to resolve to accept it, forgive, and move on. They’re moving in for the kill.

    2. Another funny thing about Democrats is that there are so many white men running two of those white men are beating all the Intersectionally ‘qualified’ candidates.

      Its almost like all most Democrats care about is for white men to be President or VP.

      Nobody ever really discusses that Obama needed a white man as VP, to be President. Only the Party of slavery would require that.

      Maybe Hillary hoped that something would have happened to Obama and Biden would then pick Hillary as his VP.

    3. It’s still too early, but I think it’s hilarious that Biden’s numbers went up AFTER he was accused of unwanted groping. People seem to see it for the political hit job by Justice Democrats that it was.

      1. Yeah, I think the standard interpretation of that can only be:

        Jim: “Did you hear Biden was accused of groping?”

        Bob: “Really, so Biden is in the race? Well, that’s my guy then!”

        He’s the anti-kook vote. Who cares if he sniffs women’s shoes–so long as he isn’t pushing the Green New Deal and reparations for slavery? Sniffing women’s hair doesn’t seem like a big deal when the rest of the field wants to get rid of cows by 2030.

    4. That giant sucking sound you hear is Elisabeth Warren’s campaign circling the drain.

      #nastywomanpersisted

  28. “Bernie Sanders relaunches his Medicare-for-all health care legislation”
    […]
    “”The Medicare for All Act will provide comprehensive health care to every man, woman and child in our country without out of pocket expenses. No more insurance premiums, deductibles or co-payments. Further, this bill improves Medicare coverage to include dental, hearing and vision care,” Sanders’ team wrote in a summary of the bill distributed ahead of a press conference Wednesday on Capitol Hill. ”
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..d=62297738

    According to the Chron, long-term care for the aged is to be included also: FREE, FREE, FREE!!!

    1. Sounds like Medicaid for all, not Medicare.
      Oh, by the way, something like two thirds of specialists do not accept medicaid patients.
      The feds paying for your healthcare is different from you actually finding a doctor who will give you the time of day for a federal reimbursement.

  29. Speaking of giant sucking sounds, did anybody else catch Tampa Bay’s massive choke last night?

    Oh mercy!

    As a Caps fan since forever, I’ve been on the receiving end of chokes like that. Seeing Tampa bounce back next game is a pretty safe bet, but there’s a chance their team just isn’t built for playoff hockey.

    The biggest threats to the Caps are Pittsburgh and Tampa. Seeing them both lose their first game in the series was amazing. If we can’t pick up a win tonight, we’ll be in the catbird seat.

    God I love playoff hockey.

    1. “Hockey is a Heteronomormative Sport Enjoyed by White Supremacists”

      – NYT Opinion pieces from the near future

      1. I was thinking about why I enjoy it so much last night, and I think part of it comes down to this:

        In a typical game, if one team goes down three goals to zero, or something like that, one of the guys on the losing side will typically start a fight. Often, it’s one of the leaders of the team. They’re showing the other players on their team, their friends and family watching at home, and the fans who bought tickets that they care whether they win or lose.

        When I watch NBA, NFL, MLB, it makes me feel like a sucker to think that I care more about whether the team wins or loses than the players do. I never feel like that with hockey.

        College ball is different.

        1. I could see that. I also think that fighting is a big part of the attraction. And since basketball has become so devoid of physical contact, people watch hockey during basketball season to get their fix.

        2. Any sport where fighting is a 5 minute major and not a suspension is alright in my book. Also, DIY dental work and you’re back on the ice next period. As opposed to every other sport where rugburn on your shins is a 3 week break.

          As an Islanders fan, I will support my team in their effort to beat Pittsburgh. I was very much “here we go again” with that late period goal to tie it, but the Isles hung in there and kept up the pressure.

          1. Using that fourth line like that is Barry Trotz hockey. He will squeeze out a defensive win when others won’t. I understand why we couldn’t keep him Washington, if the GM, him, and the owner aren’t on the same page, but it’s too bad we couldn’t keep him.

            There’s a lot about hockey, especially roster moves, that happens off the ice, but on the ice, we’d be a better team with Trotz. He’s a huge addition to your club.

        3. The national anthem nonsense helped hockey a lot. While NFL and NBA millionaires were making asses of themselves, someone created a fantastic Facebook meme. It was the below video with the caption “Meanwhile in Hockey”.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86QRAw1FiUo

    2. Torterella did the same thing to the Caps in the first round in 2013. I bet Columbus wins.

      1. If it does, another reason why NHL playoff hockey is superior to the NBA.

        Unpredictable beyond belief.

        1. If there is a more worthless prize in sports than the NHL President’s Trophy, I can’t think of it.

          1. Lady Byng. It’s hockey who needs gentlemanly play?

    3. The Bruins are dangerous too.

    4. >>>As a Caps fan since forever, I’ve been on the receiving end of chokes like that.

      ah, the Murray brothers

      >>>God I love playoff hockey.

      yep. go Bs, go Stars.

  30. http://spectator.org/the-googl…..spectator/

    Google black listed the American Sepctator.

    This is no longer some minor bug in the tech world.

    The fact of the matter is that the American Left is waging a full scale war against fellow Americans who have the audacity to disagree with Left Wing orthodoxy. They are not interested in debate, discussion, ideas, free speech, or a free press. They are the enforcers of their own iron-fisted, totalitarian, Mao-style cultural revolution. The targets can be Fox News or individual Fox hosts with names like Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham. It can be conservative speakers invited to college campuses ? with the mere appearance of conservative Ben Shapiro requiring the University of California at Berkeley forced to lay out $600,000 to protect the speaker. It can be a Media Matters campaign to remove Rush Limbaugh from the air. Or, yes, me.

    On and on and on this kind of thing goes. This is no longer a debate about ideas in the tradition of America. It is a war of personal destruction.

  31. http://www.foxnews.com/politic…..violations

    Charges against Greg Craig, former White House Counsel for Obama, expected for foreign lobbying violations. This came out of the Mueller investigation. Funny how all the torpedos the Democrats shoot at Trump turn back on them.

    1. This is stupid, but it will be enough to pacify people who think the Russia investigation was all about Democrats versus Republicans, rather than the fear by the intelligence community that Trump might upset the foreign policy establishment. Anything less than the prosecution of James Clapper or other people within the CIA and FBI is a distraction.

      1. It is stupid. But, they went after Manfort for unregistered foreign lobbying among other things. If they start enfocing that law, half of K street will be in prison. I still can’t believe they were dumb enough to turn over that rock.

        1. As you say, those torpedoes are turned around on them.

          I suspect, Assange suddenly getting into US custody will be more torpedoes speeding toward misdeeds under the Obama Administration.

          I think you or Ken mentioned that Flynn’s delayed sentencing indicates even the judge has problems with the evidence used to convict under Mueller.

  32. http://freebeacon.com/national…..or-spying/

    ep. Chris Stewart (R., Utah) said the Chinese are easily gaining information from the stolen records.

    “They can run through those 23 million names in a heartbeat and connect dots in a heartbeat,” Stewart said during remarks to a meeting of the Committee on the Present Danger: China.

    “Have we seen evidence that they’ve done that? Absolutely,” said Stewart, a former Air Force B-1 bomber pilot who is currently a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

    He declined to provide further details.

    The OPM hack was considered one of the most damaging breaches of personnel security for the U.S. government ever. The operation by China took place in 2014 and was discovered in June 2015. China’s role was kept secret during the Barack Obama administration.

    http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/…..or-huawei/

    Obama’s director of cybersecurity during the OPM hack now works as a lobbyest for Chinese company Huawei. Interesting coincidence.

    1. Obama was king of the “Chewbacca Defense” with help from the media.

      China has a large spy network in the USA— Trump worked with the Russians!

      We did not ‘spy’ on Trump’s campaign— This is Chewbacca…Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

      Edward Snowden exposes unconstitutional domestic spying programs—Today the NSA is ending its domestic spying program.

      1. I hate the Chewbacca defense because Chewbacca never lived on Endor

        1. Chewbacca spent more than 1 day on Endor. How long does it take to “live” somewhere?

          Visiting for a weekis really a phrase to explain that you short-term ‘lived’ somewhere.

  33. Splinter’s Libby Watson tweets that Sanders making money off book sales might be OK because he’s not exploiting anyone.

    Almost there Libby!

    Now, do you see how you can make your case just a liiiiiiittle more generally?

    … ______ making money off ______ sales might be OK because _____’s not exploiting anyone.

    Welcome to the free market! Took you long enough.

    1. Has anyone told Libby that copyrights are property?

    2. He’s exploiting people’s interest in his books, isn’t he?

      Is exploitation necessarily a bad thing? I don’t think so. It’s like discrinimation. It can be bad or good depending on what exactly you are doing. Everyone has to discriminate and everyone has to exploit things and people. That’s how social and economic interaction works. The question is whether a particular act of discrimination or exploitation is unreasonable, or taking unfair advantage of someone.

  34. “I wrote a best-selling book. If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too.”

    You didn’t write that.

    1. Someone else made that happen

  35. I guess we haven’t been paying much attention to foreign affairs around here lately, unless it’s covering some libertarianish Republican rebuking the Trump administration for something they haven’t even done yet, but there’s been a lot going on–that doesn’t necessarily involve Trump.

    Algeria had a revolution through peaceful protest. How cool is that? Despite how you feel about what happened with asylum seekers in the aftermath of the Libyan revolution and the Syrian civil war, the fact remains that peaceful protest keeps accomplishing what terrorism never could.

    Al Qaeda and others argued for years that the only way to overthrow the vicious dictators in the Muslim world, from north Africa and throughout the Middle East, was violent struggle and terrorism, and yet peaceful protest keeps accomplishing what terrorism never could.

    Now, I’m reading that the Sudanese military just ousted Bashir after mass protests. I hope people in these countries find themselves with better governments than they had before, but if they don’t, I hope they remember that peaceful protest keeps delivering the goods that terrorism doesn’t.

    If the Palestinian people ever truly united in a peaceful protest movement, they might be unstoppable.

  36. Not seeing how this impacts press freedom, as Assange was not a journalist.

    1. I’m not a big Robby fan, but I think he’s right about this:

      “Indeed, bringing charges against Assange for publishing the secret documents he obtained would set a very dangerous precedent, since this is something journalists do all the time.”

      If there’s a criticism here, maybe it’s more that Assange may not be prosecuted for publishing secret documents but for conspiracy to steal them.

      If a journalist publishes something that someone stole, that’s one thing. If a journalist conspires to steal them or helps someone steal them, that’s another.

      1. If a journalist publishes something that someone stole, that’s one thing. If a journalist conspires to steal them or helps someone steal them, that’s another.

        Agreed, but this will be impossible for any government to prove since it’s not at all what actually happened (it’s a straight fiction).

    2. define press freedom, and journalist

    3. The “Press” in America don’t have any additional constitutional rights than average Americans.

      It does not matter if you are a journalist or not, you have protected freedom of press and speech rights.

    4. The press doesn’t mean journalists. The freedom of the press is the freedom of anyone to publish.

  37. >>>I see you. I hear you. I’m for you. I AM you.

    not if you’re a politician.

    1. Wait, let’s see how far he’s going with this, I’ve already given my creditors his address.

      (Just kidding, creditors)

  38. But Ecuadorean officials had grown weary of the arrangement, in part because Assange continued to involve himself in world affairs, and also because he had become a difficult houseguest.

    Right…had nothing whatsoever to do with the $4.2bn loan from the IMF that Ecuador just got? Assange got fucked by the International Bankster Cartel and, predictably, all the State-sucking cock smokers are cheering it on. Evil MFers….

  39. Libertarian : Anarchist :: Anabaptist : Amish

  40. The free press in “gravely threatened” today, with our without Assange’s prosecution.

  41. How can it threaten freedom of the press when he didn’t work for a newspaper with a printing press?

  42. Don’t worry there won’t be a trial. He will be in some black site inside of a week and the photos of him being carried out of the Ecuadorian Embassy is the last we will ever see of him.

  43. Don’t worry there won’t be a trial. He will be in some black site inside of a week and the photos of him being carried out of the Ecuadorian Embassy is the last we will ever see of him.

  44. “There would be no way to differentiate a traditional media outlet such as The New York Times or The Atlantic from an entity like WikiLeaks”

    Except by noting that Wikileaks publishes the truth.

    1. One small difference, Wikileaks is the source, the NYT & Atlantic have forgotten what citing a named verifiable source is.

  45. I will believe Bernie is a socialist when he gives away all but $31,200.00 of his salary, (before taxes) which is the $15/hr he keeps harping about. And then he lets the homeless sleep in any room of any of his multiple houses where he is not actually sleeping himself.
    Bernie is a self absorbed greedy politician who is after personal power. “period”.

  46. Why include Bernie Sanders socialists in this? Also, Bernie’s not wealthy when compared to other congressmen. He’s been in government service for 40+ years, that $174k/year salary accumulates … plus book sales. Nothing wrong there.

  47. as Elizabeth replied I’m amazed that a mom can earn $7438 in four weeks on the computer. did you see this site………………………. http://www.geosalary.com

  48. Somebody else has been indicted recently, and that is Greg Craig, once an Obama White House legal advisor. The Mueller team swept Craig up as an unregistered lobbyist for Ukraine. John Podesta’s brother may be getting nervous.

    Ukraine has an energy company called Burisma that exports a lot of natural gas profitably to Germany. The funny thing is that Ukraine historically hasn’t produced enough gas to fill its own needs, and must import the rest from Russia. The gas Ukraine does produce itself comes from Eastern Ukraine, the part now controlled by pro-Russian elements.

    Germany needs natural gas because green energy policies closed down its coal and nuclear power facilities. Angela Merkel also needed to appear not to be importing Russian gas because Berlin had pledged to impose sanctions on Putin for bad behavior.

    Somehow Hunter Biden, failed Navy lawyer, lands on the board of directors of Burisma. In 2016, when Ukrainian President Poroshenko wants to get to the bottom of who really controls Burisma, daddy Joe Biden intercedes and forces Poroshenko to fire his Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, stopping the inquiry. Joe threatened no more U.S. guaranteed loans.

    Those interested in following up Mueller leads concerning Russian collusion, should be heartily in favor of pursuing the Burisma trail.

    1. I beat this drum a lot here. Wish somebody would salute when I run it up the flag pole. Wish I used commas better, too.

    2. “”John Podesta’s brother may be getting nervous.””

      I thought he was given immunity already, but I could be incorrect.

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