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MoveOn, Maddow Can't Move on From Mueller Worship: Reason Roundup

Plus: Ohio vice cop indicted for murder, FFC would police "the new kids online beat," and crony Federal Reserve appointments on the way?

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Robert Mueller–themed spins on classic rock songs soared through Times Square yesterday, as activists rallied for the federal government to "Release the Report" on the Trump-Russia investigation. Dispatches from the rally and others like it—organized by MoveOn and promoted by Rachel Maddow—totter somewhere between terrifying and hilarious, an overwrought and toxic mix of radical chic, boomer nostalgia, preening politicians, media malpractice, and Democratic fundraising.

But the carols. First, the carols, in all their ridiculous and impressively awful glory, like the essence of Bush-era liberal bloggers distilled down to platonic form and then performed en masse. Here are the lyrics of one, to the tune of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" (bonus points for casual stigmatizing both sex work and gay men):

It goes on.

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As journalist Michael Tracey points out, the Mueller report is scheduled to be released later this month (as it should be). William Barr suggested his redacted version would be ready in mid-April. The theatrics yesterday were basically just haggling over about 10 days (although from the tone and content of the speakers and organizers, attendees could be forgiven for not realizing that). "Virtually no one, including Trump himself, has advocated against release of the Report," tweeted Tracey, who took all of the above carol photos. "So what's the point of these rallies? Answer: to give expression to liberal paranoia, anxiety, and rage."

MoveOn's Twitter timeline is filled with pictures of rallies large and small across the country yesterday. (It's hard not to notice a distinctly older and less diverse crowd than at other recent rallies and marches around progressive causes.) A few more shots from the #ReleasetheReport rallies:

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But it wasn't just random (and well-intentioned, if woefully misled by media and politicians) people showing up. Lots of legislators took the opportunity to grandstand:

FOLLOWUP

Ohio vice cop indicted for murder. Andrew Mitchell, the former Columbus police officer recently arrested on federal charges, has also been indicted by a grand jury in Ohio. Mitchell is charged with murder and voluntary manslaughter for the 2018 shooting of Donna Castleberry in the back of his police car.

FREE MINDS

Policing "the new kids online beat." The '90s are back, baby! At a "Truth About Tech Conference, sponsored by Common Sense," Sen. Ed Markey (D–Mass.) just unveiled "The Kids Internet Design and Safety (KIDS) Act," which aims to regulate online advertising and punish people for content that is "harmful" to children. Both children's television and the burgeoning internet saw a whole lot of a couple decades ago, as bipartisan techno-paranoia prevailed. Now that speech suppression, tech regulation, obscenity laws, and the like are fashionable again, I suppose this revival was only a matter of time. "The Federal Trade Commission [FTC] would be the cop on the new kids online beat," reports Broadcasting & Cable. More:

Common sense describes the bill as addressing "the disconnect between existing laws and today's reality to extend vital values and protections of the 1990 Children's Television Act to cover all media platforms and promote digital well-being."

Markey has been active on the children's media front. He has also proposed updating his Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA), has called on Facebook to stop paying teens for data, and has called on the FTC to investigate Google Play and in-app marketing to kids.

FREE MARKETS

Crony Federal Reserve appointments on the way? President Donald Trump is reportedly considering Heritage Foundation policy analyst Stephen Moore and "former Godfather's pizza boss and 2012 GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain" for open seats on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, as Brian Doherty noted at Reason yesterday. "Neither Cain nor Moore are technically trained academic economists, which alarms many, although…board members with more varied real-world experience might be useful voices in central bank decision-making," writes Doherty:

It is less lack of academic/technical training that's disturbing as the clear sense that both men are being appointed not for expertise but for team-playing loyalty to Trump. Cain has recently been running a pro-Trump political action committee, America Fighting Back; Moore was a former Trump economic adviser during his 2016 campaign.

Read more here.

QUICK HITS

  • The U.S. House yesterday passed a bill saying America must end support for Saudi-led war in Yemen. "The final vote was 247-175, with 16 Republicans joining 231 Democrats in approving the resolution," Joe Setyon reported last night. " Just one congressman voted present: the libertarian-leaning Rep. Justin Amash (R–Mich.)"
  • Always read Stephanie Slade on election polls.
  • New Mexico just decriminalized both small amounts of marijuana and "drug paraphernalia." According to the Drug Policy Alliance, it's the first state to get rid of paraphernalia penalties.
  • Who the heck even are these Democratic candidates anymore?
  • The issue of legalized prostitution is a matter for the Nevada legislature, not the courts, state lawyers argue in a response to suit seeking to shut down the state's legal brothels.
  • What Carr says:
  • The European Parliament will vote in May on whether it's illegal to call meatless products burgers. Some are proposing that what's commonly known as veggie burgers must henceforth be referred to as veggie discs.
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291 responses to “MoveOn, Maddow Can't Move on From Mueller Worship: Reason Roundup

  1. …as activists rallied for the federal government to “Release the Report” on the Trump-Russia investigation.

    Don’t stop believin’.

    1. “Knock, knock”

      “Who there?”

      Hello.

      “Knock, knock”

      “Who’s there?”

      “Rhodes. WE WANT OUR FUCKEN DEGREE BACK RACHEL”.

      1. Sounds more like the School of Hard Knocks.

        1. Crusty is into the School of Hard Knockers.

          Gee, where is he nowadays?

          1. One too many posts critical of Hil?

          2. I’ve been working my way through to the final of a youth chess tournament in Seoul. I entered as an eight year-old boy named Heung Pork which means it was incredibly challenging to play against the older, more experienced children. In the quarterfinal game I beat a boy of fifteen in seven moves. He cried and his parents were upset. While I was browsing the seafood market yesterday morning, a very old lady came to me and showed me some sort of witchcraft or devilry that enabled me to project my visage onto the walls of faraway places at will. In the middle of the night perhaps you will awake to see my smiling face above your bed, watching you.

  2. It’s time for Attorney General Barr to #ReleaseTheReport and the underlying documents so that Congress and the American people can see it for themselves. https://t.co/aga1r7owTa
    ? Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) April 5, 2019

    Barr is doing them a favor, letting them extend this paranoia ride as long as possible.

    1. “Barr is doing them a favor, letting them extend this paranoia ride as long as possible.”

      They don’t need him. Once it’s obvious there’s nothing there, they’ll demand a new investigation.
      Religions don’t need facts.

      1. An investigation into the redactions, at least.

      2. From your perspective truth would look like conspiracy.

        1. That is a good way to describe Russia Fever Dream dead-enders

          1. Release the report and we’ll find out. You’re the one with a fixed view.

            1. Release the report and we’ll find out. You’re the one with a fixed view.

              An appropriate rejoinder from a shitlib who constantly moves the goalposts.

            2. My view is based in simple logic and the utter lack of evidence. Not to mention the fact that the biggest proponents of the Russia Fever Dreams hysteria were associated with the intelligence community and neocons (two groups that exist to lie). Your view is based on blind faith. You’re not well. Seek help, in all seriousness

            3. And when that doesn’t pan out your way, you’ll just demand a new investigation.

            4. “From your perspective truth would look like conspiracy.”

              On top of being a fucking ignoramus, you’re a laugh riot.

            5. It’s too late to release the report, Barr’s already had time to doctor the report and remove all the parts that refer to Trump committing treason.

              What Barr should have done is immediately turned the report over to Nancy Pelosi, right after marking it “Eyes Only” and making her sign the cover letter stating that this report may contain classified and/or privileged and/or otherwise legally non-disclosable information and that failure to protect the contents of the report from anyone else’s eyes but her own is a federal felony for which she will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

              A few minutes later, when the leaks start hitting the NYT, send over a half-dozen FBI agents to her office, arrest her, frog-march her off in handcuffs and hit her with a few dozen charges carrying a couple centuries in prison.

              1. OBL’s got some real competition this morning…

    2. Barr isn’t just letting them hold on to their collusion delusion. When Barr releases the redacted report as scheduled, you can bet that the #Resistance will claim that Barr only released the report because of their political pressure. That way they can congratulate themselves once again. Of course, the #Resistance will continue to protest regarding the redactions even if Barr is legally required to make such redactions.

  3. As journalist Michael Tracey points out

    Ugh, he’s such a hack. I’ve been calling him out for months as a #TrumpRussia denialist phony progressive. He’s almost as bad as Glenn Greenwald, although I’d say GG is even more dangerous since he has like 10 times as many Twitter followers.

    1. GG is even more dangerous since he has like 10 times as many Twitter followers

      Whoa! I had no idea the Kardashians were such existential threats!

  4. …Sen. Ed Markey (D?Mass.) just unveiled “The Kids Internet Design and Safety (KIDS) Act,” which aims to regulate online advertising and punish people for content that is “harmful” to children.

    Thank Gaia none of that is subjective.

    1. Teletubbies hardest hit.

    2. So when I am emperor, I will designate all sexual advocacy as harmful to children.
      I will designate all political speeches as harmful to children.
      I will designate all news programs as harmful to children.
      I will designate all references to any and all ‘preferences’ to ‘compensate’ for past actions of any and all groups as harmful to children.
      I will designate removal of any and all statues as harmful to children.
      I will designate public employee run schools as harmful to children.
      I will designate divorce as harmful to children.
      I will designate all social media as harmful to children.
      I will designate hollywood as harmful to children.
      I will designate abortion as VERY harmful to children.
      How does the KIDS act sound to you now?

  5. Now that speech suppression, tech regulation, obscenity laws, and the like are fashionable again, I suppose this revival was only a matter of time.

    Why didn’t the Framers think of the children?

    1. Why didn’t the Framers think of the children?

      They were chattel, which is another good reason to pull down all their temples.

    1. “I’ve spent enough on you to buy a battleship!”

      “And you’ve spent enough *in* me to float one!”

      1. I don’t get it. Are we supposed to imagine millions of little sperm holding up a battleship?

        1. “It’s easy if you try.”

        2. *BUCS style obvious joke about how “this is my fanfiction I’m writing right now” or other obvious jokes*

    2. Look at that stock gap though between her and Bezos, more evidence of the patriarchy in this country. She was there from the begining, equal work for equal wage I always say.

      1. That explains why it’s called Mackenzie Bezo’s company.

      2. Hey, gotta put the weasel word in there…”equivalent work”.”substantially similar work”. The whole delusion of “The Gender Wage Gap” relies entirely on pretending two things are the same that are not the same.

        So I guess they also use lies and illogic to prop it up. “Our THREE main weapons are…”

        1. Any way, by their (specious) argument, he built the huge selling site by years of hard work, innovation, aggressiveness and risk-taking. She took the dick. So…”substantially similar”…

    3. Didn’t Bezos run off with some skank?

      1. Haven’t really followed it, but it seems he managed to get on camera in a manner guaranteed to piss off his former wife.

        1. He hooked up with some third rate newsbabe who isn’t even as hot as his wife. That woman cost him $35 billion. The most expensive piece of ass since Cleopatra got Mark Antony killed. And without question the most overpriced one in history

          1. Prolly looked good on camera…

    4. I agree. She did earn it. She was an integral part of Amazon for years.

      Besides that, Jeff Bezos is a moron for chasing that skank. He could afford the best tail in the world and he got infatuated with a skank. What is the world coming to?

      1. Amazon is likely coming to a peak.

        The Lefties have not turned on Bezos yet but when they do, Amazon will go straight into the toilet.

        The anti-Amazon HQ 2 in NY and VA are signs of whats coming from the Lefties.

        Bezos hitched his wagon to the Lefties and he did well while it lasted. I doubt Amazon will survive without Lefty support. Too many rural America Walmart shoppers that wont use Amazon much.

        1. On this I have to disagree. Amazon is just too convenient to fail. I like Walmart, and shop there, but Amazon is my go-to place when shopping. I wish it weren’t so because I think Bezos is a douche-bag, especially after he tossed out his perfectly serviceable wife for a two-bit ho.

          1. Wal Mart is doing everything Amazon is doing now.

            1. Walmart is late to the game, and they don’t do e-commerce as well as Amazon.

              Amazon has a strangle hold on on-line shopping.

              Sad. But true.

              1. And Walmart can’t really beat them on price for the online-purchase-home-delivery market. Amazon has some brutal “cost saving procedures” and “enhanced process efficiencies” built in to their warehousing/distribution model.

                I haven’t liked Bezos since they patented “one click”. Jebus. Also patented “using a computer that has been turned on for shopping” and “shopping while awake”. Ass.

  6. Herman Cain would make a good choice – he doesn’t need to know where Uzbekistan-stan is in order to be a Fed Governor.

    1. The more the Fed is exposed as a joke- the better. As if working for Government Sachs is somehow better than having a pizza salesman on the board

      1. Plus I want to hear about his 9-9-9 plan for the Fed

        1. 9-9-9? Are you out of your mind?

          1. Off topic, but you were right about the Amash vote yesterday. I was a little too critical considering that how he voted made no difference to the final passage of the legislation. If he had a principled opposition to parts of the legislation that was a good opportunity to make that opposition known.

            1. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. You are good people.

            2. This is why I like you, Just Say’n. You can be awfully cantankerous at times, but you seem to be operating from a point of genuine inquiry and questioning.

      2. As long as that pizza salesman doesn’t push pineapples on pizza.

        Truly abhorrent. There oughta be an amendment.

        1. Godfather’s was the pizza you can’t refuse.

          Federal reserve notes are the currency you can’t refuse.

          1. Their taco pizza is quite good.

        2. Members of the Church Of The Hawaiian Pizza do not seek your blessing.

          1. REAL authentic Hawaiian Pizza has pineapples and SPAM.

  7. It is less lack of academic/technical training that’s disturbing as the clear sense that both men are being appointed not for expertise but for team-playing loyalty to Trump.

    The country is sharply divided; why shouldn’t its government be, too? Deep staters versus loyalists. May the better partisan overlords win!

    1. Don’t blame me, I voted for Swamp Kodos!

  8. Does anyone else think it’s weird that a bunch of “concerned citizens” showed up in groups to demonstrate about Congress getting a report?
    The theater billing is weird.
    Holding up placards that spell “release the full report to Congress now” is weird.

    It’s almost as if someone were putting on a really, really stupid play.
    Yet these are “adults” rather than high school kids reading the script.

    1. It’s funny to contemplate the ridiculous idea that these people have more mental capacity than the average high schooler. My son is in high school and I know a lot of kids with more smarts and maturity than just about any of these wack job “progressives”.

      Reading from scripts is all they ever do.

    2. Sometimes I yearn for a true gonna catastrophy just so those kinds of people have to worry about securing food and water to live, rather than find ways to occupy a few hours every day. How many of them are trust fund babies?

    3. It’s almost as if someone were putting on a really, really stupid play.

      Told by an idiot? Full of sound and fury? Signifying nothing?

      1. All the world is a really, really stupid stage.

    4. MoveOn (formerly known as MoveOn.org) is an American progressive public policy advocacy group and political action committee.[2] Formed in 1998 in response to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton

      Beyond stupid into lunacy. A group formed specifically to tell people to move on from the Clinton impeachment is unable to let go of conspiracy theories about a different president.

      It’s like rain on their wedding day…

      1. Move on spent the years 01 to 04 claiming Gore was robbed of the presidency. The irony of their name was completely lost on them.

      2. “unable to let go of contributions and funding from sympathetic ‘commies with money'” more like.

    5. Nardz|4.5.19 @ 9:55AM|#
      “…The theater billing is weird…”

      That’s some Oakland idiot famous for putting lefty whines on his marquee.

  9. Since I’ve been asked several times why I voted present…

    Ultimately worked well for Obama the legislator.

    1. Hey socky, having AMD competitive with Intel is one of the best thing to happen in the tech sphere in a long time. So it’s a positive.

      1. Though in the long run it’s bad for us all as a competitive AMD was explicitly mentioned in Revelations as a sign of the apocalypse.

        1. A Modest Destiny?

        2. I think we’re safe until Cyrix comes back with the world’s first quantum chip.

          1. “The Quantium I!! It’s already solving problems you don’t yet know you have!!”

  10. Who the heck even are these Democratic candidates anymore?

    Not Trump.

  11. The issue of legalized prostitution is a matter for the Nevada legislature, not the courts…

    AND CERTAINLY NOT THE INDIVIDUAL.

  12. Holding back the Mueller report is a matter of national security.

    OK, Blumenthal. Then surely you’ll help push for Auditing the Fed.

  13. Funniest thing Tony’s said in a long time:

    “How many women would you say have “charisma”? It’s a sexist concept.”

    —-Tony

    https://reason.com/blog/2019/04…..nt_7746164

    1. Tony walks too much on the sunshine.

      1. He *may* be thinking “charisma” is the name of a woman.

          1. Wood.

            1. ISWYDT

  14. Protestors: Release the report!

    Mr. Burns: Release the hounds.

    1. Crusty: release the chinchillas!

    2. Tony: Release the Black Shirts on non-Lefties!

  15. How many young progressives today even know that Move On was founded, and names, entirely on the premise that the country should ignore the rape and sexual harassment accusations against Bill Clinton? Like, it is so farcical it is hilarious, but the media and press at large pretend like it’s totally normal and this all isn’t one big fucking joke.

    1. And, they received their start up funds [$50K] directly from none other than George Soros for this very purpose.

    2. You are right about that.

      this legal ethicist wrote about the consequences of the success of that defense.

      http://ethicsalarms.com/2012/0…..ent-476699

      I’d put it this way: The way liberals rallied to excuse and enable Clinton set the cause of creating a cultural consensus against sexual harassment back decades, and that led to more harassers, bold predators, and abused women.

      I said so at the time. I hope Bill’s hypocritical feminist supporters are proud, because this was predictable, as well as disgusting.

      – Jack Marshall

  16. The European Parliament will vote in May on whether it’s illegal to call meatless products burgers. Some are proposing that what’s commonly known as veggie burgers must henceforth be referred to as veggie discs.

    They should vote on whether it’s illegal to call vegetables “veggies”. Are we three years old?

    1. Rounded vegetable meal product patties

      Let’s make sure nobody has a desire to eat one.

      1. Perhaps the European Parliament will rename them “Theresas”.

      2. Rounded vegetable meal product patties

        Biodegradable puck.

      3. Beyond burger and impossible burger are actually pretty tasty. There, I fucking said it.

    2. Unpatriotic vegetable matter.

    3. The Brits did make it illegal to call Pringles potato chips (crisps), because they’re only about 27% potatoes. That one I can see.

      How do they feel about Turkey burgers? Lamburger?

      1. Europe does this all the time. They are all in for using the government to aid various food industries. Just look at all the different copyrights they enforce for various cheeses and Champagne. Things like that.

        1. Parmesan cheese from Wisconsin is the best.

          1. Illinois has a decent Champaign.

            1. It’s pronounced “cham-pag-en.”

  17. Facebook issues a new and expanded call for the government to police your online speech, in interview with @GStephanopoulos.

    I don’t suppose George bothered to bring up the very prevalent and natural criticism of what Zuckerberg is doing, that it could be seen as an attempt at regulatory capture to restrict competition. I would like to hear some actual journalist try to get a response to that.

    1. I don’t suppose ABC puts “Bill Clinton’s Campaign and Communications Director” underneath Georgie’s name whenever on screen either. He was basically the Kelly Anne Conway of the Clinton administration. It was his job to lie and make all of the sexual harrassment and rape accusations against Clinton go away.

      The fact that he is considered a serious journalist and nobody questions this is a fucking embarrassment.

      1. That it ever happened that Georgie was considered a serious journalist after 1993 should be an embarrassment.

        However, American MSM journalists are incapable of embarrassment, utterly incapable of embarrassment.

        1. The recent rehabilitation of Dan Rather’s career by the press at large, without even addressing his past, is one of the most absurd thing I have ever seen in my life. They really are the enemy of the people, but then again so are Democrats and Republicans and Trump. I’m not singling them out. Journalists are just equally sinister and terrible for this country as politicians are now, because they all act like poltiicians.

        2. Worse than all of that, the over-the-top dishonest mouthpiece for Clinton and hard-core DNC shill has been one of the best network journalists over the last 20 years.

          Just let that marinate for a moment.

    2. I don’t suppose George bothered to bring up the very prevalent and natural criticism of what Zuckerberg is doing, that it could be seen as an attempt at regulatory capture to restrict competition.

      I doubt he even grasps the concept.

  18. a federal crime for judges in the Federal Duck Stamp contest to not spend at least two hours reviewing the artwork

    “Quack ’em up!”

    1. You left out the weird part:

      16 USC ??718g, 707 & 50 CFR ?91.24(b) make it a federal crime for judges in the Federal Duck Stamp contest to not spend at least two hours reviewing the artwork submitted by duck stamp contestants before the contest begins.

      I would think the crime would be reviewing the artwork before, not after. Smacks of an inside job.

      1. Let’s play duck-duck-gate!

      2. The Federal Duck Stamp is one of those programs that has done a lot of good for conservation. And it’s basically a user fee, so there is no forced participation. I know, I know, it would be better to let the market handle this, but if it’s what we got right now, it’s not bad.

  19. It becomes clearer as time goes on that the Democrat alternative to talking about the Mueller report is discussing the issues–and the issues are a loser for Democrats.

    Closed primaries will likely be won by the Democrat who can be the most extreme on the Green New Deal, Medicare for All, and reparations for slavery. Those issues are losers in general election.

    Want to see how those issues are playing in swing states? The latest data point is from a few days ago, when a conservative beat a liberal in Wisconsin in an election to the Wisconsin state supreme court.

    http://madison.com/wsj/news/lo…..30fb0.html

    Smart people know that the Democrats can’t win on the issues and tearing each other apart over hair sniffing. That’s why they want to drag out the Mueller probe. That’s why they’re going after Trump’s inauguration expenses. They can only win on the issues if they somehow make Trump the issue.

    1. Don’t forget about #MeToo, “gun safety”, regulation of the Internet, and Russia! Russia! Russia!

    2. Not just a conservative. An apparently quite fringe conservative. If you can’t beat that, in this fever-pitch climate? … you ain’t got nuthin’

      1. And beat it in a blue leaning swing state no less. It is not like this was Mississippi or something.

    3. Wait until Census 2020 results come in too. Blue states like Commifornia will be losing House seats to Red states like Georgia.

      More Electoral College votes for Red states in 2024? Uh-oh.

  20. Google to pull plug on AI ethics council

    The council had run into controversy over two of its members

    , IBM’s Watson and the infamous Stuxnet worm.

    1. The Vox report said Google employees had signed a petition calling for the removal of one of the members over comments about transsexual people, and added that the inclusion of a drone company executive had raised debate over use of Google’s AI for military applications.

      I just know some AI somewhere is behind this.

      1. I just know some AI somewhere is behind this.

        The politicians devolve the Presidency into a steaming pile of garbage and eventually the military has no choice but to put Skynet in charge of the missile systems.

      2. Those same employees returned to their jobs helping the Chinese police state capture dissidents and censor the internet after signing the letter

  21. It totally baffles me that these protest bots cannot or will not see that most commoners, those outside their sphere, see them as fools, tools, and puppets. Are they not aware that they are turning people away and sending them to Trump’s camp? Or is that the endgame? Are the savvy enough to want a 2nd Trump term to continue the orchestrated outrage to drum up more seats in congress and the Holy Grail of increased, endless fundraising.?

    1. Our ruling caste is very, very, very incompetent

      1. As is possibly evidenced by the threats to completely close the border with Mexico to stop the flow of drugs… I cannot think of many responses to drugs that could be classified as more incompetent that the path we have chosen so far, but this one is a good candidate.

    2. You are absolutely right.

      All of this mindless hysteria from these people have driven me to the previously unthinkable position of voting for Trump.

      It’s just too entertaining to pass up.

  22. 16 USC ??718g, 707 & 50 CFR ?91.24(b) make it a federal crime for judges in the Federal Duck Stamp contest to not spend at least two hours reviewing the artwork submitted by duck stamp contestants before the contest begins.
    ? A Crime a Day (@CrimeADay) April 5, 2019

    The defense? Absence of Mallard.

    1. You should just goose step right on out of here.

    2. You quack me up.

    3. No harm, no fowl?

    4. I say you’re all birds of a feather

    5. They just keep pecking away at our liberties.

  23. I was a little too critical of Amash when I saw how he voted, but it wasn’t as if his vote would have changed the results. If the guy wants to stand on principle when his vote doesn’t matter for final passage fair enough. He’s still better than the vast majority of people in Congress

  24. Some are proposing that what’s commonly known as veggie burgers must henceforth be referred to as veggie discs.

    Why won’t they finally outlaw vegetables altogether? Vile weeds.

  25. Always read Stephanie Slade on election polls.

    Just please don’t let her write about abortion access ever again. Can’t believe Reason lets someone work here who literally wants to turn this country into The Handmaid’s Tale.

    1. I think you need to start doing some reading on Catholics. You’ll quickly find that we are not to be trusted.

      I recommend starting your reading here.

  26. I don’t understand why Congress isn’t entitled to every letter of the report. At least the leadership. They are not unaccustomed to handling sensitive information.

    1. The Republicans are panicking because they know Mueller uncovered major bombshell revelations. I’m confident Democrats will win this battle and eventually #Impeach.

      The walls are closing in.

      1. The Mueller report isn’t the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning.

        Its bombshells will eventually explode when they are revealed. Rachel Maddow and Rep. Schiff have said this over and over again.. Actually, we already know all we need to know about this: Trump announced his fealty to the Russians when he publicly begged Putin to release Hillary’s e-mails. It’s just a matter of time before all is made clear. The deplorable, illiterate, toothless, smelly, MAGA-hat-wearing racists in the Trump camp will deny what the Mueller report will demonstrate to be plainly true as much then as now, but we all know that they are tools of Putin.

        1. Not quite OBL-level, but a damned good effort!

          1. As you noted earlier, he [OBL] does have some competition today

    2. Because spreading innuendo from a grand jury report is not only illegal, but also not the job of Congress (despite what Adam Schiff thinks).

      Sorry that your insanity has been exposed. Get treatment

      1. So, this entire thing started with a faked up “opposition research” file from the Clinton campaign that didn’t have any takers, even in a press that was fully in the tank for her campaign. So the Obama administration used that information to begin wire-tapping and spying on the Trump campaign. And they took the information from those wiretaps, illegally “Unmasked” Americans who were not supposed to be targeted and spread that classified information around the government specifically so it could be leaked to start an investigation designed to lead to impeachment.

        I’ll remind everyone that during the Kavanaugh hearings the Senate Democrats on the committee treated sensitive documents as sacrosanct. Feinstein did not leak the private letters sent to her in order to force public revelations.

        ?? she passed them off to Chuck Schumer and let his office do it. And in full view of the press, as Savannah Guthrie was at the midnight meeting at Schumer’s NYC pad where the entire plan went down, along with other DNC mucky-mucks and other members of the press. Funny how that never got any play on the network news… And funny how NBC kept pretending that nobody had any idea where the leaks came from.

        So yeah… they are well experienced in handling information, and they have well developed channels for that purpose.

      2. So, this entire thing started with a faked up “opposition research” file from the Clinton campaign that didn’t have any takers, even in a press that was fully in the tank for her campaign. So the Obama administration used that information to begin wire-tapping and spying on the Trump campaign. And they took the information from those wiretaps, illegally “Unmasked” Americans who were not supposed to be targeted and spread that classified information around the government specifically so it could be leaked to start an investigation designed to lead to impeachment.

        I’ll remind everyone that during the Kavanaugh hearings the Senate Democrats on the committee treated sensitive documents as sacrosanct. Feinstein did not leak the private letters sent to her in order to force public revelations.

        ?? she passed them off to Chuck Schumer and let his office do it. And in full view of the press, as Savannah Guthrie was at the midnight meeting at Schumer’s NYC pad where the entire plan went down, along with other DNC mucky-mucks and other members of the press. Funny how that never got any play on the network news… And funny how NBC kept pretending that nobody had any idea where the leaks came from.

        So yeah… they are well experienced in handling information, and they have well developed channels for that purpose.

        1. Best synopsis I’ve read on the matter Cyto, thanks.

      3. But it’s the job of the Attorney General?

        The first leaks we get from the Mueller people is that they’re pissed off about how the report has been characterized.

        I don’t care how much you suck Trump’s dick, shouldn’t you be for more transparency rather than less?

        1. I’m totally in favor of more transparency. I would like to see every word of the report released. Trump has said as much too.

          However, there may be legitimate national security reasons to redact portions. But I know that “national security” can be a cover for shenanigans.

          So I think that an unredacted version should be supplied to at least members with security clearances.

          1. Screw national security (that’s always a lie anyways). I don’t think we should be trafficking in grand jury reports. As much of the report as possible should be released, but no more wild goose chases about a conspiracy theory that doesn’t even make sense

            1. After Hillary’s emails, we stop this crap!

              1. Sorry you are butt hurt. Maybe you should grow-up?

                1. Maybe you should care at least as much about your current president being extremely corrupt as you do about a non-president being not very corrupt.

                  1. One of the funniest things you’ve said Tony!

                    1. Yeah, do we have any indications of Trump (the president) being corrupt?

                      I don’t think he’s been plugged in or competent enough to be corrupt or corrupted.

                      Heck, how could you enter into some corrupt deal with the guy? He is by far the most unpredictable national figure of my lifetime. He just inked a trade deal with Mexico, and he’s threatening tariffs and actually closing the border. You’d have to be insane to sign up for some shady dealings with him.

                    2. Corrupt is a vague catchall. There is a continuous back off on criticism. Generalizing the complaints to make them vaguer and vaguer. Corrupt is a good extreme of this.

              2. “After Hillary’s emails, we stop this crap!”

                Shithead here is stupid enough to continually refer to that hag’s most obviously illegal actions as if you proves something other than she managed to skate on proven crimes that would have landed nearly anyone else in the slammer.
                If that isn’t proof of some really low-level IQ, I don’t know what would be.
                Fuck off, you pathetic piece of shit.

          2. Beyond “national security considerations”, do we really need to see some dirt they dredged up to try to pressure some functionary into “rolling over” (or lying) and giving up Trump? With 400 witnesses before the grand jury, there is bound to be a bunch of stuff about some dude having an affair, or some secretary who bought herself a couple of nice things on the company dime… whatever.

            They were in full-on process-crime extortion mode.

            Tossing all of that into the frenzy that is the DNC “get Trump” machine would be pretty irresponsible.

        2. The first leaks we get from the Mueller people is that they’re pissed off about how the report has been characterized.

          Yeah? Who, exactly? The only thing that’s come out is “some people” are claiming that the summary doesn’t match up.

          The investigation is over. It’s done. They have nothing to lose by putting their name out there, because they know that guys like Schiff are going to run cover for them and coach them about what to say.

          If that report had any basis in fact, the people making the claim would have gone on the record. The fact they didn’t is a much stronger indicator that the report does not, in fact, come to a completely different conclusion than Barr’s summary.

          1. It was another report of “unknown sources with knowledge about grumblings from Mueller’s team”. The same shotty journalism that ruined Tony’s critical thinking skills. The corporate press can’t get passed the fact that they behaved terribly during this whole episode.

            Considering that Mueller publicly shot down some media reports during the investigation (the infamous Buzzfeed bombshell that wasn’t), if he stated opposition to Barr’s behavior then I think that would be newsworthy.

            If we want to go down the “obstruction of justice” without an underlying crime route then I think it’s time to start admitting that half of the country had their brain broken by Trump’s election.

          2. I see words but all I hear is that particular slurping sound that comes from orally pleasuring Donald Trump.

            I’m so happy you’re satisfied with Barr’s two sentence fragment quotes of the 400 page report. I’ll chalk it up to libertarians not caring about being informed citizens because they don’t believe in the system anyway.

            1. I’m so happy you’re satisfied with Barr’s two sentence fragment quotes of the 400 page report.

              Anyone who actually believes that the report will have sufficient information to arrive at a conclusion that is completely different from the summary is straight-up retarded.

              You’re not retarded, so I’m presuming this is just you being dishonest out of partisan desperation.

              1. Are the people who wrote the report retarded? Because they seem to have an issue with the Barr whitewash.

                1. Now you’re just deflecting. And if they were that pissed about it, they should have no problem putting their name on the record as whistleblowers. Otherwise, they’re a bunch of fucking cowards.

        3. Unnamed leaks titled ‘some members’ of the team. Very convincing.

          1. Easy way to clear it all up. Since you are interested in shielding the president from political harm and believe that the report doesn’t cause any of that, we’re both on the same page about releasing it as fully as possible.

            1. Poor Tony. He still thinks Trump will not serve 8 years as President.

            2. Since Mueller himself is determining the redactions, and the reports release date is already known, I can’t say what is possessing you shit yourself in public.

              If you think Mueller is trying to cover up his own report, well, he’s also the one who wrote the damn thing. If that’s something you believe, than the fix was in as soon as Mueller was appointed.

              It’s a bit late to whine about that now after you’ve been defending the guy for, what, two years now?

        4. “The first leaks we get from the Mueller people is that they’re pissed off about how the report has been characterized.”

          According to anonymous friends of anonymous friends of anonymous Mueller people

    3. Yup. Any amount of redaction is all you need to keep your head exploding forever. So fun for the rest of us.

      1. Trolling the libtards is not a national political agenda.

        1. Maybe they shouldn’t treat politics like a religion, then.

        2. Its so easy and fun.

          I mean you Lefties are pretty stupid.

          Lefties used to be able to control information before the internet but all the Lefty lies get exposed and recorded for future throwing in your face.

          You people really messed up in America. You should have controlled the internet from Day 1. There is just too much factual history and records of Lefty misdeeds to try and sweep under the carpet.

          1. You wouldn’t know a fact if one showed up on your cousin’s tits.

            1. It’s really a pretty racist thing to say such mean things about Pakistani Muslims. After all, fucking cousins is right there in their religion.

            2. This is a lot like watching retarded midgets fight over an empty Twinkie box, but I lol’d.

    4. “”I don’t understand why Congress isn’t entitled to every letter of the report.””

      Because the rules regarding the Mueller appointments says the report will be delivered to the AG, not Congress. Rules that the dems have known were in place for the last two years and never complained about it.

      People who know the rules, then only complain about them when they don’t get their way are behaving like children.

      1. Yeah, every time the rules fuck over a Democrat, we reform them so as not to fuck over the next guy who’s inevitably a Republican. How nice for them.

        1. Yeah, they are uniquely stupid in that regard.

          “We won’t negotiate on our judicial nominees! We invoke the Nuclear Option! ? ooops.

          “elections have consequences!!” Oops.

          “I have a pen and a phone!!” Oooops.

          “Sex is a private matter! Nobody should pay attention to such things, even if there are rape allegations” (admittedly it has only cost them one time, but wow, did it ever boomerang, in spades!)

          It seems like we swapped out a functional government for a bunch of elementary school playground knuckleheads sometime between the end of the Clinton-Gingrich era in 1999 and the 2000 election. It was coming unglued before then, but it was operating on inertia from the old-timers. Now? A bunch of finger-pointing babies who don’t have a thought in their heads.

        2. “”Yeah, every time the rules fuck over a Democrat””

          So why wait for two years to complain?

        3. “”Yeah, every time the rules fuck over a Democrat””

          So why wait for two years to complain?

      2. Similarly, Hillary knew the rules for the election would count the Electoral College, not the popular vote. Yet she wanted to complain about the EC.

        Sore losers complain about rules after the face.

        1. And partisan goosesteppers change the subject to the “rules” when the subject is principle.

          1. And the Electoral College is the principle.

            It exists for a reason.

            Maybe you want to live in a world where our leaders are chosen only by the people living in the 5-10 most populous cities in the nation, but most of the rest of the country would prefer to have a say in how their country is governed as well.

            1. Actually, taking a look at it, the top 4 most populous metropolitan areas gets you past 50 million people. So probably only the top 5 would do it.

            2. Actually, taking a look at it, the top 4 most populous metropolitan areas gets you past 50 million people. So probably only the top 5 would do it.

            3. Actually, taking a look at it, the top 4 most populous metropolitan areas gets you past 50 million people. So probably only the top 5 would do it.

            4. It exists, but not for any good reason.

              1. “It exists, but not for any good reason.”

                As if the opinion of some adolescent whiner were worth anything.
                Fuck off.

              2. Cyto just gave you a compelling reason. Do you care to address it?

                I suspect not, because your hate and intolerance of “those people” who are below your station would come shining through. In your mind, and most progressives, those people are only fit to be ruled by your benevolent hand.

            5. Instead we get a system where the dumbest dumbfucks are made president against the popular will because rural voters get 100 times the representation as urban voters. What a fantastic system.

              1. Wow Tony! I didn’t actually think you would prove my point so resoundedly!

          2. “”And partisan goosesteppers change the subject to the “rules” when the subject is principle.””

            Who’s arguing principles? Definitely not you.

            You believe in principals, not principles. You own posts show that to be true.

          3. “I want to break the law to expose lawbreaking” is Tony’s loser of an argument. And he likes making it.

    5. You can say the same thing about all of the information that led up to the investigation and the Steele Dossier. It’s all political theater, and nobody actually cares about the truth, particularly not journalists.

      1. No, particularly not Trump supporters. The rest of us do.

        Your problem is you don’t understand that you’ve chosen a tribe because you were instructed to and you can’t think for yourself. We’ve chosen a tribe because they’re objectively better.

        1. Nice what you imply, that Trump supporters can’t think for themselves because they chose Trump, while you can think for yourself because you chose a better tribe.

          Some of us have not chosen any tribe because we literally do think for ourselves.

          1. Tony provides us a wonderful illustration of the progressive (hive) mind.

            I, for one, am grateful

            1. He’s been full on parody for a while

        2. The Obama and Hillary personality cults are as strong as Trump’s. At least I understand Obama’s. The personality cult around Hillary Clinton is a fucking mystery.

        3. Objectively better? Bernie, the 2nd place democrat finisher in the last election, is a fucking socialist. Socialist governments killed 200 million of their own citizens in the 20th century.

          Objectively better? You need to pull your head out of your ass. I would hate to see you starve to death on the free-range organic farm they send you to when they collectivize. Plus, all those dead bodies are going to release methane, which is going to ruin their glorious plans for a new ice age.

        4. Your tribe is ruled by a horrible hag. Hillary is, and was, objectively worse.

          Politic better in the future, or kneel before Trump.

    6. “I don’t understand why Congress isn’t entitled to every letter of the report”.

      By law, you can’t release testimony from a grand jury session. So to give them everything would be a violation of the law.

      1. You can if a judge says so, mostly for the purposes of public interest.

        To what extent the president of the US is corrupt is a question the public might be interested in.

        1. But no judge has said so, and as far as I know nobody has asked a judge to say so.

          So Barr has to redact at least the grand jury stuff. That in itself makes the demonstrations in this article and the posturing among Congresspersons look goofy. At least you can excuse the protestors for being idiots who don’t understand the law. The people in Congress should theoretically know better.

          Is there a concern that Barr could over-redact using the national security or ongoing investigation excuse? Sure. That’s happened something like a bazillion million times in administrations run by both tribes. Seems to me that you can’t criticize Barr for that until you see what he redacts. But I’m trying to be rational and fair, unlike the tribalists?…

        2. Then get a judge to say so, and until then, stop acting like such a bitch.

  27. I worked at a Godfather’s all through high school. Mmm, I haven’t has Godfather’s “pizza” in forever.

    All the pot we smoked at work sure made it delicious!

    1. Better than Cici’s at least. Far worse pizza buffet than Peter Piper Pizza though. Wish we had PPP in Colorado…

  28. The EU wants the UK to stay in the EU. I suspect they’ll keep granting extensions so long as the UK keeps asking for them.

    May all but promised to step down if her last ditch effort to get parliament to approve the exit deal with the EU wasn’t approved. If she’s reneging on that promise, the question is how long they’ll go before the party replaces her. Regardless of whether she’s reneging, she might as well call another parliamentary election if she can. I doubt the Tories will win enough seats to overcome the resistance of the MPs from Ulster, but if she won’t be the PM anyway, then that’s the alternative to a hard Brexit.

    She should stop asking for extensions and just take the hard Brexit at this point. The EU doesn’t want a hard Brexit either. If they got one, they’d be highly motivated to work on the worst problems as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, the MPs she needs to support a soft Brexit won’t flip until the only alternative to her plan is a hard Brexit. May needs to stop asking for extensions already. It’s just making things worse.

    1. The EU wants to make an example out of the UK to dissuade other countries from following suit. Brussels has never cared about the democratic will ever since their constitution was voted down in a French referendum.

      1. “The EU wants to make an example out of the UK to dissuade other countries from following suit.”

        I think that’s true to a certain extent, but the problem is that the UK is such a big fish, they aren’t the ones you’d want to make an example of–they’re the ones you want to scare by making an example of someone else.

        If we were talking about a smaller country, things would be different. The EU might not mind as much if a problem country like Italy or Greece wanted to leave. They want to keep the UK in the EU. And I still think that’s what they’re trying to do.

        1. I don’t know about that. Italy or Greece leaving the EU would likely be even messier considering that they both use the euro, unlike the UK. Also, Italy is the fourth largest economy in the EU (UK being the second largest) so I doubt Brussels would put up less of a fight if they left.

          1. See my comment below.

            Without Greece and Italy’s misbehavior, the Eurozone crisis wouldn’t have been anywhere near as bad, and nothing has changed since then to stop Italy, in particular, from doing the same thing again in the future.

            If Italy can overspend in the future without suffering the effects of inflation like they would if other Eurozone countries weren’t picking up the slack, then why wouldn’t they do that–again?

            The UK isn’t a bad actor that way. The UK is a strong economy.

            Losing Italy would be a long term plus for the Eurozone, even if there were some short term problems. Losing the UK is a long term negative for the EU, and there isn’t anything good about it for the EU in the short term either.

            If you want to make an example of somebody, make it somebody who doesn’t represent a long term fundamental threat to the Euro. The next time the Chancellor of Germany wants to bail out a country like Greece or Italy, the German people may want to exit the EU.

            1. “If you want to make an example of somebody, make it somebody who doesn’t represent[] a long term fundamental threat to the Euro [like Italy].”

              Fixed!

          2. Yeah, but it’s all just mopeds, ski boots, and focaccia bread.

            1. They are the number one exporter of dudes who do nothing but smoke cigarettes and catcall women.

              1. Per capita, not nearly as high as Puerto Rico, though.

      2. Since before then; see the long history of demanding the Irish vote twice.

    2. How abhorrent is the prospect of a Corbyn govt, that Parliament won’t toss her out on a vote of no confidence?

      1. Labour has already tried to replace him as leader twice, right?

        If they had someone more centrist in leadership, that would make things easier.

        If often seems to be the case that what’s happening in the U.S. is also happening in the rest of the world. We’re all subject to the same economic forces, the same headlines, some of the same demographic trends, etc. Everywhere I look in the English speaking world anyway, from the U.S. to Canada and from the UK to Australia and New Zealand, I’m seeing electorates on the left that are lurching to the far left and electorates on the right that are becoming more populist on issues like trade and immigration. So, the left in the UK can’t put a Joe Biden in leadership either?

        Ugh.

        1. And under it all is a sensationalist, propagandist press fueling the flames.

    3. Italy would be bigger than the UK.

      It’s a founding member of the ECC, gave more to integration than the UK, is part of the Euro and its economy roughly as big as the UK.

      Italy would hurt the EU more than the UK.

      Not sure why you would put Italy. Spain I can see but not Italy.

      1. chose

      2. Italy uses the euro, ergo their exit from the EU would have larger ramifications for the bloc

        1. It’s ridiculous to even put Italy in the same sentence as Greece.

          A net giver to the EU who have contributed far more than the UK who never jumped in fully demands more respect than that.

          1. It’s ridiculous to even put Italy in the same sentence as Greece.

            Oh, the irony.

            1. God you’re fucking stupid.

        2. “Italy uses the euro, ergo their exit from the EU would have larger ramifications for the bloc”

          And the ramifications would be positive, right?

          If currencies trade on the basis of how much debt is issued in that currency, then countries with high debt levels leaving the Eurozone should make the currency rally–OTBE.

          Again, I’m not sure everyone is grokking the fact that when Italy spends far more than it takes in in taxes, it hurts the value of the Euro. If Italy had their own currency, their misbehavior wouldn’t hurt other countries in the Eurozone.

          1. Ken, I think you need to knock it off with the ‘bad actor’ and ‘misbehaviour’ shtick.

            Italy’s debt ratio is one thing, but the bottom line is it always met the threshold criteria of the EU. It it’s a NET GIVER to the EU budget. And again, their debt is nothing like Greece or Spain in that it’s an industrial and manufacturing power and member of the G7. It has CASH FLOW power those countries don’t have.

            Italy’s economy is closer aligned to France. And it’s a MAJOR trading partner with Germany where BOTH countries owe each other money.

            You’re talking like those tiresome Hypoborean chauvinists.

            I stand by Italy leaving the Euro is much more detrimental than the UK.

            1. I suggest you read this article from yesterday.

              “If you’re seeking the key to the euro zone’s economic outlook, all roads lead to Rome.

              Italy’s public debt of ?2.4 trillion ($2.7 trillion) is significantly bigger than its economy and among the largest in the currency union, making it the most dangerous. This debt mountain threatens the financial stability of Italy and the future of the euro: Any plans to strengthen the single currency must solve the question of who will bear this burden.”

              Bloomberg, April 4, 2019

              http://www.bloomberg.com/news/…..ly-problem

              I maintain that Italy is a bad actor and they represent a fundamental threat to the Eurozone. The reason relatively fiscally responsible countries like the UK and Sweden didn’t and don’t want to be part of the Eurozone is because of countries like Italy. Italy is a problem. Their departure would be negative in the short term, but their continued presence in the Eurozone is a problem over the long term. If we’re talking about countries you want in or out, the EU and the Eurozone would want the UK over bad actors like Italy. You don’t make an example out of someone you want to stay. If you want to make an example of someone, it’s a bad actor that you might be better off without over the long term anyway.

      3. The point was that Italy, like Greece, is a major threat to the Euro because of their debt.

        http://tradingeconomics.com/eu…..ebt-to-gdp

        They’ve improved recently, but their outstanding debt still ranged up to 132% of GDP vs. 54-81% of GDP for Germany.

        The sacrifices Germany is making in terms of fiscal restraint in order to sustain the value of the Euro against inflation were largely being squandered by bad actors like Greece and Italy.

        France effectively required Germany to accept the burden of the Eurozone’s fiscal responsibility as a condition for France’s support for Germany’s reunification, but Greece, Italy, and Spain went way too far in abusing that. As an export based economy, Germany benefits from having a weaker currency than they would without, say, France’s overspending. That being said, no way Greece, Italy, and Spain could have spent as much as they do without suffering inflation if it weren’t for Germany’s fiscal discipline picking up the slack.

        1. So, anyway, my point was that if bad actors like Greece or Italy were to leave the zone and the currency, there’s an argument to make that this would be a good thing over the long run–since they can’t be trusted to be fiscally responsible. The problem of a central currency with individual countries setting their own budgets independently still hasn’t been fixed, and one way to fix it would be for bad actors to leave. That’s what I was trying to say that they might prefer if Greece or Italy left rather than the UK.

          The UK accepting the currency would be a good thing for the Euro. The UK leaving the EU is a bad thing for the EU.

  29. ANY amount of redaction of the report will give them all they need to keep bleeting about this forever. One word blacked out will do it.

    Of course it won’t matter a mote if the redactions are for legitimate national security reasons.

    1. The un-redacted FISA documents would be more interesting. So weird that Democrats aren’t demanding that information

      1. Weird, no. They love the idea of a secret court used to safeguard the power of the State. I suspect many of them would be quite happy to see its jurisdiction greatly expanded.

      2. The un-redacted FISA documents would be more interesting.

        That’s likely one of the reasons that Flynn hasn’t been formally sentenced yet, and might not even get any prison time at all. Remember that the judge who recused himself from the Flynn case was the VERY SAME JUDGE who issued all those shady FISA warrants to begin with?

        Did it every occur to leftists why Flynn took a guilty plea, and then immediately whipped around and started fighting that verdict as hard as he could? Did they even know that five motions were filed less than a week later concerning “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree”? Well guess what–Flynn and his team, earlier this year, filed for a Protective Order “Governing Discovery” regarding the sentence. This meeting will be conducted in secret, in front of a federal judge, and evidence will be presented that Flynn was framed under a corrupted FISA system. What’s notable here is that the Mueller team presented *no objection whatsoever* to the submission of evidence.

        Maybe the left shouldn’t have put all their rotten eggs in Mueller’s basket, because he’s going to break their hearts again.

      3. I would like to see Obama’s unredacted application to Columbia and Harvard much more than an unredacted Mueller report.

    2. Any defense of keeping the report secret is on its face a desire to see Trump shielded from at least political consequences of his own misdeeds and at most evidence of impeachable offenses.

      Stop being so fucking partisan. This is a libertarian place.

      1. I want the whole thing released. But thanks for proving my point: ANY redaction is in your mind “keeping the report secret”. And yet some redaction in these kinds of reports is the norm and has been going on for years.

        Partisan. Funny. I voted for Johnson in ’16 but the massive hysteria on your side is going to make vote for Trump next time.

        Not because I like him all that much. It’s because it’s healthy to have a guy who doesn’t give a fuck who can knock down the ridiculous concepts of Dear Leader and his all powerful and benevolent State. And I think a lot of Trump supporters are in the what the fuck camp. Tear down your self-important and isolated establishment.

      2. … Says the statist.

      3. I want the whole thing released, but not just to partisan hacks in Congress. So if Schiff goes running to his pals on CNN claiming that he’s seen “ironclad proof” of collusion the rest of us can verify it for ourselves.

        1. I’m good with that.

          Believe it or not, I think it’s better if the president is not a corrupt traitor, but I don’t trust, so it needs to be verified.

      4. Do you even hear yourself?

      5. Didn’t Democrat vote for the law that typically keeps Special Counsel reports confidential?

  30. I am enjoying watching a bunch of national politicians who said that they were going to impeach Trump before he even took office and insisted that 2.5 years was not too much time to investigate a story that their compatriots manufactured are now proclaiming that a week is far too long to spend digesting and redacting a 300 page report from that investigation.

    As with discword and turtles, in our world it is buffoons all the way down….

    1. He managed to make an analogy? Is his emo listening tour over?

      1. Interesting. So you don’t like Beto? Who’s your favorite right now Tony?

        1. Yeah, Tony, if you had to get it on with one of the Dem candidates, which one would it be?

            1. Yeah, Beto’s got a little hotness to him.

            2. looks like he’d be really boring.

              1. Tony needs a power bottom and Beto looks like a lazy guy.

                Sorry Tony, no lawyer babies for you and Beto.

            3. Puta?

          1. I respect that you don’t think with your dick, Tony.

            1. Elizabeth Warren is 1/1024 dude, so Tony is not off the hook.

  31. The TDS is real bad and fatal to the brain.

    Thoughts and prayers.

    1. TDS does seem to be more than a temporary insanity type thing.

      TDS seems to cause permanent brain damage, as it is constant and affects multiple parts of these people’s lives.

  32. too many shots of Zuckerberg’s ugly mug lately how about we go 2 days w/o having to look at him

    1. He looks like Geppetto forgot to screw on the nose.

      1. if Punching Zuckerberg In the Face was a PPV event I would purchase.

    2. Does anybody else think Zuckerberg looks like Elizabeth Holmes’ twin?

      They both have those vacant, serpent-like eyes.

  33. If congress gets the full report it should be released to teh public for we know that certain members will claim there is prove in there wether there is or isn’t. they are quite good at Orwellian speak

  34. To be fair to people like Maddow, what else do they have?

    1. The Green New Deal, reparations for slavery, and Medicare for All.

      Collusion with the Russians sounds the least crazy of the four if you ask me, but that’s not saying much.

    2. alternate avenues of employment, perhaps not on television.

  35. TDS Leftist FIRED For Harassing Jewish Man In MAGA Hat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAWEslbEoh4

  36. I’m gonna play at “OpenBorders LIberaltarian”.

    More bad news for the economy!

    “The unemployment rate held steady at 3.8% last month, just above a 49-year low of 3.7% touched last fall. Average hourly wages for private-sector workers grew 3.2% from a year earlier, a strong increase, but a slowdown from February’s 3.4% gain, the best since recession ended in 2009.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-….._lead_pos1

    “U.S. Jobs Grew by 196,000 in March as Hiring Bounces Back
    The unemployment rate held steady at 3.8%, just above a 49-year low touched last fall”

    So, the bad news is that wage growth has slowed down since February–and will continue to slow until we get that Russian agent out of the White House.

    How’d I do?

    1. One of the other reasons the Democrats and sycophants in the media like Maddow don’t want to shut up about the Mueller report is because it’s so hard to make an issue out of criticizing the economy.

      Who are you going to believe–MSNBC or your own lying eyes?

      1. +1

      2. “One of the other reasons the Democrats and sycophants in the media like Maddow don’t want to shut up about the Mueller report is because it’s so hard to make an issue out of criticizing the economy.”

        On another site, some lefty seriously used the slow-down as proof that Trump’s efforts are killing the economy. I mentioned that as any growth approaches what has been shown to be the max, it’s bound to slow down.
        Like OP and Tony above, this idiot couldn’t be bothered with facts….

  37. Cliff plunge that killed family of 8 ruled a murder-suicide

    Two women drugged themselves and their six adopted children before intentionally killing the entire family by driving off a California cliff last year, a special coroner’s jury has ruled.

    A jury of eight women and six men unanimously found Thursday that Jennifer and Sarah Hart, both 38, committed suicide and that their six children ? ages 12 to 19 ? died “at the hands of another, other than an accident” in the Mendocino County murder-suicide on March 26, 2018, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

    I wonder if this story is going to carried much by MSM. Lesbians who are a tiny minority in the USA, then murder all their 6 adopted children by driving over a cliff into the Pacific Ocean.

    1. Why does this need to be a national story? Because lesbians?

      1. I took his meaning to be that had it been someone disfavored by the press, Trump supporters or religious people, it would have been splashed around to show how fucked up they are.

    2. It seemed to be big news right after it happened. Or maybe it just penetrated my bubble.

  38. I’ve said from the start that the Russia investigation was far closer to Whitewater than Watergate. The only difference is which side the media and press were rooting for.

  39. Tell me again how MoveOn.org got started?

    1. $50K from Soros

  40. I’m idly wondering what will happen if the Democrats get their hands on the unredacted Mueller report and it still doesn’t prove “collusion”. What will they do then? Well, other than that “scream at the sky” thing.

    1. “Trump has something on Mueller.”

      1. Mueller’s been working for Putin this whole time.

        1. Mueller *is* Putin!

    2. How do you feel about a new investigation into the oranges of that investigation?

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  42. Jesus I thought liberals were supposed to be educated?

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