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Captain Marvel Is a Message Movie Without a Message

Marvel's first female-fronted superhero film is a woke superhero fantasy scared to take any risks.

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Captain Marvel, the first movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with a female superhero in the lead role, isn't exactly a bad movie. In a way it's something worse: a disappointing, instantly unmemorable mediocrity—a by-the-numbers superhero movie that could, and should, have been so much better.

To understand why Captain Marvel represents such a missed opportunity, consider last year's best superhero movie: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. Built around an alternate-universe, mixed-race Spider-Man named Miles Morales who encounters a slew of other Spider-Men and Spider-Women, the movie cleverly reimagined the Spider-Man mythos as a parable of power, identity, and heroic responsibility.

While accepting the Oscar for Best Animated Feature last month, the filmmakers were blunt about their goals: The movie was intended "to make people feel powerful and seen," said one. "When we hear that somebody's kid was watching the movie and turned to them, and said, he looks like me, or he speaks Spanish like us, we feel like we already won," said another. Spider-Verse, in other words, was an unabashed product of woke Hollywood, a message movie pitched explicitly to the concerns of the YA-diversity crowd—and it was better for it.

Like Spider-Verse, Captain Marvel is a woke superhero power fantasy. Unlike Spider-Verse, it has nothing of substance to say. It's a message movie without a message.

The central trouble is Captain Marvel (Brie Larson) herself. When we first meet her, she's going by the name Vers, fighting off shape-shifting Skrulls as part of a squad of elite alien warriors led by Yon-Rogg (Jude Law). But Vers, we eventually learn, is actually Carol Danvers, an American fighter pilot who has lost her memory after an accident that granted her extraordinary power. The movie is structured as an identity quest, in which Vers learns about her past and reclaims her human—and superhuman—identity. In the movie's finale, she glows with cosmic power and exclaims that she has finally found herself: This is who I am.

Yet after spending a little more than two hours with Danvers, I still have no idea who she is or what she's like. Directors Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck, who also co-wrote the script, give her no personality traits beyond bland, low-key confidence. It's not just that she isn't fazed by anything. It's that she's not interested in anything, not excited or upset or angry or overwhelmed or enthusiastic. You can't imagine how she might react to, say, a puppy, or food that smelled bad, or what she'd be like at a birthday party, because she simply doesn't react.

Superhero movies aren't necessarily the place to look for deep psychological insight. But the best examples of the genre offer characters with quirks and flaws, interests and ideas. They're people you can imagine yourself being, or at least hanging out with, in the moments when they're not being superheroes. Think of Tony Stark's self-aggrandizing wit, or Captain America's list of things to do in the future; these characters are fun, funny, and distinct. Captain Marvel's version of Danvers is wooden and forgetable; she has all the personality of a life-size cardboard standup.

Danvers' flatness doesn't just make for a boring character. It completely undermines the movie's thematic frame. Early on, Law's character warns her that to master her power, she must learn to control her emotions, a notion that returns in a climactic moment. One senses that this is supposed to be Danvers' big test, the way she defines and discovers herself. But there's no payoff, no resolution, because the movie never once gives the impression that she has had even one single recognizable emotion of any kind, much less several of them strong enough to require control.

Instead of a fully developed character, the movie treats viewers to a regular stream of gendered winks and nods. A jerk male pilot sneers, "You do know why the call it a cockpit"; an obnoxious biker tells her to smile more (she steals his bike); a major fight sequence is set to the distractingly on-the-nose No Doubt anthem "Just a Girl," and so on and so forth, as if to remind viewers that, yes, this is not just a superhero movie, but a superhero movie about a woman. You don't say.

Captain Marvel is not the first mega-budget movie of the modern era to be built around a female superhero—that award went to 2017's far superior Wonder Woman—but it is the first such film in the ever-popular Marvel Cinematic Universe, and the movie often seems to want to celebrate its status. But its feminist tics feel forced, like exercises in social-justice box-checking intended strictly to ensure that the character meets all the expectations of the sort of viewers who want their social-justice boxes checked. Its feminism is thus an empty, timid pose, a stream of predictable, meme-able moments that has nothing to say about what might make this woman different, or better, or important, or interesting at all.

The blankness comes across as an intentional omission, a studied way of avoiding letting Danvers be anything potentially controversial or problematic, which turns out to mean avoiding letting her be anything at all. Captain Marvel is movie built entirely around cultural risk aversion. Plenty of half-baked blockbusters lack ideas and personality because the filmmakers were lazy. This one appears to have been carefully, intentionally picked clean of anything resembling an idea beyond the tautological notion that powerful women are powerful. It's a girl-power movie that can only bring itself to say one thing: Here is a girl, with powers.

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The movie doesn't even demonstrate her powers all that well. Although the imagery is sporadically effective, the movie's action scenes are clumsy and rhythmless. There's plenty of the usual kicking and punching and photon blasting, plus some big explosions during a climactic planetary attack sequence, but there's no big moment that truly sells her powers. For a mega-budget movie from a studio with a reputation for spectacle, Captain Marvel's action setpieces consistently feel rote and small—just more box-checking exercises in meeting expectations. It's a movie that aims to never surprise, and wildly succeeds.

The issue here isn't the source material. Danvers hasn't always been a feminist icon in the comics, but she has been a reliable, increasingly powerful presence in Marvel's print universe for decades. In recent years, her powers have been taken on by a new character, Kamala Khan, a Muslim teenager from New Jersey, who, like the diverse cast of Into the Spider-Verse, has helped expand the idea of who the character is and what she represents.

Khan is a spectacularly powerful figure, but she is also, notably, someone with specific, relatable challenges and struggles to overcome, from what to wear to how to deal with the complex expectations of her family, friends, and community. She is, in other words, a person who occasionally finds life difficult and has to make choices. As with the many iterations of Spider-Man, her appeal as a fictional character comes from the relatability of these struggles, and the way they help readers better understand both themselves and others. The movie version of Captain Marvel offers viewers almost nothing of the sort. It's a cold, closed-off film, indifferent to both its audience and its central character.

At the Oscars, one Spider-Verse filmmaker spoke directly to fans, thanking them for their support by saying, "We see you. You are powerful," succinctly capturing the idea that Spider-Man isn't just a single fictional character, but an idea, a community, and an identity both specific and universal. It was a movie about welcoming difference, not suppressing the qualities that made its characters unique.

Captain Marvel, in contrast, seems only to say, "You see me. I am powerful." That, it turns out, is who Carol Danvers is. The problem is that this movie declines to make her anything more.

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250 responses to “Captain Marvel Is a Message Movie Without a Message

    1. Most of the positive reviews are written by men as well.

      1. Turns out the majority of the movie-going public is white men. Apparently, some people didn’t realize this when they got into acting and have decided the best way to solve the problem is to whine about it.

        1. +1 Jodie Whittaker

          1. I love Jodie Whittaker, but she should never have been cast as The Doctor. If anything they should have Cast her as a new incarnation of Romana, and maybe produce a new Dr, Who spinoff.

            1. No, she should not be Romana (though if the show survives I hope they find a way to bring her back). I can’t speak to her previous acting, but from almost day one she was bashing the fan base, and spouting SJW garbage (calling it a representation of the male gaze, among other stupidity).

              Romana would be great. Bringing Missy back would be great. I’m fine with a female doctor. But not Whittaker.

              She should have had nothing to do with Doctor Who. And Chibnall’s writing sucks.

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              2. Definitely agree on Chibnall’s writing. S11 felt like a non event with no stakes and significant character development. Completely lacking in swistusions.

                Haven’t read any of Whittaker’s commentary. This is disheartening, as I’ve liked her previous work.

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            3. Bullocks. I haven’t even watched the new BS episodes with a female doctor. I watched the old pre-reboot Doctor Who (Tom Baker FTW!), and there was more than enough SJW bullshit in the new ones without ruining it completely by having a female doctor.

              IMO characters are what they are… You shouldn’t go making Achilles a BLACK DUDE, like in that shit Netflix thing. You shouldn’t go making a male character female. And you ALSO shouldn’t make a female character male.

              Bringing back Romana would have been a perfectly awesome idea… But the female Master was preposterous enough, the doctor himself was too damn far. Make up a new character, don’t ruin an old one, if you absolutely MUST virtue signal your SJWness.

        2. The movie going public need to be able to relate to a character with their supreme Suderness. We are all Suder-Man, even Captain Marvel. I shot a sticky web in my Sudey suit by accident when I watched Wonder Woman (also Suder-Man), but Cpt. Marvel leaves my Sudey squirter out of action.

        3. “Turns out the majority of the movie-going public is white men.”

          The overwhelming majority of Marvel Superhero fans are men. I collected comics as a kid. You trade them. I remember only 1 girl in elementary school was into them. Lots of boys.

          1. Yup. They’re taking MALE dominated things, and trying to feminize them… Which ruins them for guys, because they now suck… And girls STILL don’t like them, because they’re just not into that sort of shit.

            It’s like if they took Barbie and all of a sudden every action figure came with little plastic AR-15s, and Ken was ripped like the Incredible Hulk and wore camo… Little girls would no longer have any interest in them, but boys would still not be super into the concept either.

            Men and women need to have their separate spaces and separate interests, trying to make everything appeal to both sexes just doesn’t work, because we truly are not interested in the same things.

      2. Suder-Man cares not for watching too much of this trash.

        1. I’ll go, if for nothing else than to ogle Larson’s delicious, and very usable rack.

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    2. I love how they’re deliberately ignoring all the bad reviews by women. They don’t call that site “The Mary Sue” for nothing.

      1. I love how they’re deliberately ignoring all the bad reviews by women.

        Even better, IMO, is when the man’s review isn’t exactly critical, just not excessively emoting or glowing and they almost literally agree with everything the man is saying, but their review is positive and the man’s is negative.

        “It’s an ‘also ran’ addition to the MCU.”
        “That’s not fair, it’s not as good an introduction as Thor, Ironman, Captain America, or Black Panther, but it competently sets up the character and, you know, the movie’s not for everyone.”

      2. It’s like all the token gay or bi characters. I belong to a group for conservative and libertarian and they are as disgusted with shoehorning gay characters into every movie just to have one (like making Sulu gay,which remember even Takei was upset with until the SJW corrected him).

    3. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I’m supposed to cough up money to see the movie but I’d fucking well better not have an opinion about it.

      1. Shut up, drive your wife/girlfriend/daughter/niece to see the movie, and keep your white male privilege to yourself.

        1. Bring them all!

          1. Bring them all to my house. Snacks and soda in the basement.

            1. When someone’s last words are “I’m going to the basement, I’ll be right back,” chances are those words are uttered at Crusty’s place.

      2. Oh no, the lead actress has made it pretty clear that if you’re a man you should just stay away from this movie – its *not for you*.

        So we should all oblige her and give it a pass. Doesn’t sound like we’ll be missing much.

    4. Much feelz.

      So woke!

    5. What Captain Marvel doesn’t realise is that she is actually Suder-Man. We are all Suder-Man; the world’s only trans-dimensional super hero. Every identity has a Suder-Man, except the white, male, straight Suder-Man. He’s dead I think. Captain Marvel is Suder-Marvel, but she’ll have to work a bit harder on her Sudey senses.

  1. I guess calling her Mary Sue Danvers would’ve been too obvious.

    I do wonder why newly woke-Marvel Studios decided to not use the original BLACK female Capt Marvel instead of this boring-as-shit white broad…

    1. She’s in the movie… sorta.

      1. Yeah, I laughed my ass off when I heard about it. You’d think with all the manufactured praise that a “meh” movie like Black Panther received, going with black Captain Marvel would have been a no-brainer instead of the literal token call-out they actually did.

        1. They know that no one would go ( but I would have) , being woke is important, but apparently not important enough to eat a huge box office bomb.

        2. Tokens are all Hollywood knows how to do. Which makes is so fucking ironic that Hollywood is seen as proggie culture central.

        3. I thought Black Panther was pretty good. I expected it to be.

          Without a white male lead to urinate on, I thought they might actually make a superhero movie. And they did.

          1. Martin Freeman was a confused uninitiated wimp. He was being disrespected by females.

            He was clearly a white male to urinate on.

            1. Yeah, his character is called a “colonizer” by the T’Challa’s sister, hooted at like a chimp by the head of the Gorilla tribe, and generally written like a clueless piece of shit, despite the fact that he’s a fighter pilot with combat experience.

              Best part of Black Panther, really, was the implicit message that a homogenous ethnostate that prevents all immigration has developed into the most technologically advanced civilization on earth. It’s basically Birth of a Nation with black people.

              1. It’s based on actual events. You really think the Congo is that poor given the vast mineral wealth in that part of the world?

                1. It’s based on actual events. You really think the Congo is that poor given the vast mineral wealth in that part of the world?

                  The Congo’s vast mineral wealth wasn’t even put to use until the Belgians got there.

            2. Urinating on an inconsequential white male was window dressing.

              The plot goes on with or without him. He’s not a significant part of the conflict.

      2. Monica Rambeau is in the film?

        1. Sure is. She’s a teen in the film, making for a possible later role as Photon/Captain Marvel, who contrary to damikesc, followed Carol Danvers rather than preceding her.

          I find it interesting that Captain Marvel in the movie just happened to be female. What I mean by that is that much of the movie and all of the character development would have worked if she were the original comic book male Mar-Vel from way back. It wasn’t like the Black Panther where his African heritage was an essential part of his character. In many ways, that sort of things are my favorite method for having characters of varied gender, race, and etc. Like Miles Morales in the Spider-verse, his character was a black/hispanic mix. They showed it, but they didn’t dwell on it. It wasn’t an in-your-face agenda item, simply an aspect of who he was.

          1. Yes. Ra,beau became Captain Marvel after Carol Danvers went to Limbo with Immortus’ ‘son’ Marcus in the much maligned storyline from Avengers #200 (of which I own a copy). Years after Ms, Marvel had her own regular series.

            1. I remember that issue. It, fortunately, gave rise to a story much later where Ms. Marvel, now Binary read the Avengers the riot act for supporting her rape and abduction.
              If I remember correctly, that story was one of Chris Claremont’s better plot revisitings. (I wasn’t all that fond of Claremont’s penchant for loooooonnnnnnngggggg exposition, but I was fond of his picking up all manner of forgotten and lost plot lines.)

              1. The real Captain Marvel! film will release in three weeks.

                T’Challa, the Black Panther, was created by two white, Jewish guys: writer Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby. Cultural Appropriation!

    2. I do wonder why newly woke-Marvel Studios decided to not use the original BLACK female Capt Marvel instead of this boring-as-shit white broad…

      It’s one of my favorite SJW unintentional(?) projecting faux pas: blondes Haar, blaue Augen ?ber alles

      1. In dem St?dtchen wohnt ein M?dchen,
        Und das lieben wir so sehr,
        Denn es hat zwei blaue Augen,
        Blonde Haare, siebzehn Jahre –
        Sag’, was wollen wir noch mehr,
        Wir soziale Gerechtigkeit Krieger?

        1. I think that you are trying to make a clever point. What was it again?

    3. Captain Marvel: hot blond chick with alien powers, Carol Danvers
      Supergirl: hot blond chick with alien powers, Kara Danvers

      Marvel couldn’t even be bothered to change the last time for this rip-off character

      1. Maybe I’d have to see her in other contexts, but on the Hollywood scale, I don’t find her hot at all. And her voice is the worst.

        Didn’t they have to get her a butt double?

        Not Hollywood hot.

        You know you’re in trouble when Aunt May is hotter than you are.

      2. They’re very different though. Carol Danvers is a career military officer. Not some alien girl playing reporter.

        1. Kara as reporter is a TV thing. In the comics, pre-Crisis, she was a student, then, after graduating college, held several jobs, including actress on the soap opera, “Secret Hearts.” That last was an in-joke, as, SH was a DC romance comic.

      3. Kara Zor-El went by Linda Lee, then Linda Lee Danvers after she was adopted.

        Otto Binder basically retooled the shelved-by-copyright-lawsuit heroine, Mary Marvel as Superman’s cousin.

  2. Stop saying this is Marvel’s first female fronted movie. Elecktra came something like a decade ago.

    1. “Movies starring Marvel characters” ? “Marvel Cinematic Universe”

      1. A remarkably clever way for them to insist the quality of their overall franchise is high by clarifying that “the bad ones don’t count!”

        1. So neither Hulk stand-alone movie, or any of the three Fantastic Four movies? Bummer.

          1. Ghostrider, Blade, Blade Trinity, X-Men…

            1. Blade was better than any of them. Of course the sage of Blade 3 tells all you need to know

              1. “Always bet on black”

            2. Ghost Rider could be MCU, and I believe the only previous Marvel property to be eligible to be retroactively included when continuity is a factor. When the Ghost Rider shows up again in Robbie Reyes form, the original Johnny Blaze presented in flashbacks only ever appears in flaming skull form, and the timeline presented would match for that to be the Nic Cage GR. Of course, it probably shouldn’t be because the AoS/Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider story was 1000x better, but y’know, I’m just say’n.

        2. Disney/Marvel didn’t produce those films.

          1. which is why some of them were really good, and some really bad, instead of all of them being mediocre

      2. “”Movies starring Marvel characters” ? “Marvel Cinematic Universe””

        So an utterly meaningless marketing distinction.

        1. If the point is “Look at all the shiny ground breaking Super Hero Grrrl Power!”, then the particular corporate entity involved isn’t relevant at all.

          The ground was broken long ago.
          I can go back to at least Red Sonja movie in 1985. Wonder Woman had her own tv show in the 70s.

          It’s really Memory Hole creepy how people are pretending that a movie with a female comic book superhero is somehow a new thing.

        2. No, it’s a studio distinction.

          Don’t give credit to Marvel Studios for what some other studio did.

    2. It’s the MCU’s first female-fronted movie. Next up will be the first female-fronted Marvel movie released in November, a major achievement.

    3. We don’t talk about the old crappy Marvel movies, because that’s undermines the meme that DC sucks and Marvel can do no wrong.

      1. Marvel just did wrong. Also unbelievably on-the-nose retarded #woke was Cloak & Dagger, which was a similar vacuum of character, humor, and fun.

        1. It was boring.

  3. In a way it’s something worse: a disappointing, instantly unmemorable mediocrity?a by-the-numbers superhero movie that could, and should, have been so much better.

    They unfortunately learned from Black Panther (the first of its kind unless you count the outstanding Blade movie) that marketing can make your film for you.

    1. Black Panther was pretty good though.

  4. It’s a girl-power movie that can only bring itself to say one thing: Here is a girl, with powers.

    Great line.

    Of course, you’re a man, so nobody is allowed to care about your opinion of this movie.

    1. It’s the Marvel version of Green Lantern, right down to fighter pilot given alien powers.

      1. Marvel’s CM isn’t part of a galaxy-spanning contingent of super-cops, though. In her first appearances in the pages of
        Marvel Super-Heroes she was a security officer, not a pilot. Of course, in 1968 the Air Force didn’t even have the equivalent of WWII-era WASPs .

  5. Do they have Rogue come in and suck away all her powers and thus killing her at the end? Because I’d go see that.

    1. Honestly, basing a movie around that event–which is sadly still the most famous moment in the character’s history–would actually make for an interesting film. Have her lose her powers in the first act, after which she’d spend the rest of the movie struggling with her attempt to find personal meaning without the thing that defines her, including a descent into alcoholism or drug use.

      1. What are you some sort of art student? No matter how interesting and powerful that story would be it would be about taking a woman’s powers away. Do you realize how hurtful and offensive that would be to all but the unwoke.

        1. But, it’s ok, because they were taken away by a woman, who agonized afterwards about it.

        2. Hissy fits over Mystique getting choked by Apocalypse.
          Silence about Loki getting choked and having his neck snapped by Thanos.

          The problem with female superhero movies is that you can’t show women getting physically damaged.
          They could never have made Empire Strikes Back with MaRey Sue taking the physical punishment Luke did.

          1. howls of laughter about the epic beat-down Hulk gave Loki in Avengers.

            1. +1

      2. Please don’t remake Superman II.

        1. Might as well, that’s basically what she’s being marketed as anyway.

    2. So you’re saying you’d like to see a movie where these two characters have prolonged skin-to-skin contact? Interesting premise.

      Crusty, BUCS, what say ye?

      1. Anna Paquin is bi and has done lesbian love scenes (an extended one in Amazon’s Electric Dreams) before.

        1. And she sucks as Rogue.

          1. I’m not disagreeing with that but Larson sucks too, so it would be comparable levels of ability. And wokeness.

            1. See the thing is… Paquin is alao fucking gross.

              1. Larson is so boring as to be one of the most utterly forgettable people on Earth.

                I actually have to remind myself of her name.

                1. I actually have to remind myself of her name.

                  I honestly had no idea who she was when Marvel first announced her casting. I was surprised when I found out that she won an Academy Award, but apparently her best roles are when she plays pretentious, snotty bitches. So, essentially, when she plays herself she’s great.

        2. When Marvel reboots X-Men, they will certainly recast everything. The only thing D related that is sacred is Deadpool, as it makes so goddamned much money.

    3. Suder-Man would like to see that.

    4. They’re going to wait for a sequel to do that. Disney/Marvel ha to complete the merger with Fox before they can use Rogue.

  6. Why does Suderman hate women? This misogynist drivel is clearly a product of his deep-seated fear of powerful females.

    Oh, and you can forget about getting an invite to that cocktail party in Silver Springs this weekend, Petey.

    Also, let me be the first to extend a welcome to Hit & Run as the newest members of the Right Wing Patriarchy.

    The theme for this month’s newsletter is “Crushing the Hope of Young Girls for Fun and Profit: A How-To Guide”.

    1. You mean getting girl scouts who are too pretty to do match to sell you 17 boxes of $5 girl scout cookies for $45?

      1. I believe the first article is titled “Hillary LOST!!! Deal with it, sweetie!”

        Then I think there’s a wrtten outline of how we manipulated theaters to underreport the attendance at Lady Ghostbusters. Good stuff for the modern misogynist.

      2. Like movies where 18 year old Girl Scouts show up and convince guys to buy a lot of cookies.

    2. Hmm, Suderman said right in this review that Wonder Woman was far superior as a movie. So I don’t think his problem is with movies about powerful women per se.

      In any case, I think credit needs to go to Alien from way back in 1979. (I don’t think Larson was even born yet!) Rhe character of Ripley was written as a man, they cast Sigourney Weaver anyway, she was awesome in it. Women and men alike could and did like the character and the franchise, and no one had to be beat over the head about the wokeness.

      Sorry, Disney. You’re now 0 for 2 with stupid attempts to force-fit wokeness into stuff, including at the expense of ruining a wonderful character like Luke Skywalker. Go back and watch the now 40-year-old Alien or the 52-year-old In the Heat of the Night to see how to make movies that are just plain great movies, even beyond their messages.

    3. Maybe OBL can branch out as Wokertarian. We need more quality satire.

  7. It will be funny to see this go the same was TLJ where all the critics are too scared to say it’s mediocre, and all the fans tear it to shreds. Then the critics will say the fans are trolls for daring to disagree.

    It’s a cycle as old as time itself, or at least the last ten years.

    1. Even the critics, for the most part, aren’t running cover for it. It was blatantly marketed as a STRONNK ACKSHUN GRRRRRRLLL propaganda piece that these people masturbate over, but the reviews have been pretty tepid. That tells us all we need to know about how good it is.

      Keep in mind that Larson’s tabbed for seven Marvel movies down the line. Marvel’s been desperately trying to make her a Superman-type of A-list character in the comics for about 15 years now (even though the fans aren’t buying it), and they clearly had plans for Larson to be the centerpiece of an updated MCU going forward, probably as the leader of the “diverse” cast that Marvel’s been pushing in recent years (black girl Iron Man, female Thor, Kamala Khan, Miles Morales, etc.). If this movie bombs, they’ve got a seven-film albatross that no one is going to want to see.

      1. Keep in mind that Larson’s tabbed for seven Marvel movies down the line.

        My understanding is that the veracity of this claim is dubious (Larson denies it). If true, it doesn’t exactly fit with their traditional ‘franchise building’ price model where they pay the lead a paltry sum up front for greater salary and licensing down the road.

      2. probably as the leader of the “diverse” cast that Marvel’s been pushing in recent years (black girl Iron Man, female Thor, Kamala Khan, Miles Morales, etc.).

        Ahh…the comics nobody reads.

      3. “female Thor”

        Norwegians should riot.

      4. Jesus, some of you smug chumps need smacked in the head. I’m one of the largest marvel fans going, and have been following this movie for years.

        All this hyperbole about how it was marketed as some woke, sjw hit piece is complete bullshit. Maybe some of the morning talk shows and interviews framed it that way with the questions they asked. But literally none of the main marketing material was trying to hammer in some sort of sjw message. Obviously its a female hero, they wanna market to little girls. Stop acting so shocked.

        What’s really sad is how EVERYONE now NEEDS to see politics in everything. Give it a fucking rest you chumps.

        Marvel made a great captain marvel movie. It’s just sad so many people can’t leave it at that. And Her character is bland and dry at first because shes been brainwashed and weaponized suderman. That’s the point you douche.

        All the negative reviews of the movie claim it fails to be something it never intended to be. Because those writing the reviews now expect politics in everything.

        1. yeah, you want to see a woke superhero motion picture on the screen, watch Supergirl on the CW

        2. All this hyperbole about how it was marketed as some woke, sjw hit piece is complete bullshit.

          Might want to let the star of the fucking movie know about that:

          Captain Marvel’s Brie Larson sees the film as her “form of activism” “It was, like, my superpower.”

          “Like, for sure!!”

          All the negative reviews of the movie claim it fails to be something it never intended to be.

          Save for the film’s centerpiece actually doing so.

          Your try-hard white-knighting isn’t convincing anyone.

          1. She’s got nice tits. She should also star in the prom parody of this movie too. Maybe a rough triple penetration scene, or even DVDA.

      5. The irony is that Carol Danvers was far more powerful in her ‘Binary’ identity over thirty years ago when the Brood experimented on her and gave her cosmic powers. Back during her run in ‘Uncanny X-Men’.

    2. Yeah Disney needs to step back and think this through a little more. I actually really liked the Han Solo movie, but it’s obvious that their future iterations were going to get historically bad box office performance if they kept putting out garbage like TLJ.

      1. The Solo movie was fine, but having already taken a dump on Solo in The Force Awakens, and then taken a dump on the franchise in The Last Jedi, they had built up too much ill will with the actual fans who might have wanted to see Solo.

        Turns out that if you tell your customers that you hate their guts, some stop buying your shit.
        Who knew?

    3. TLJ is okay, not great and certainly nowhere as good as Empire was. Disney would have been better served to make the Zahn series. Mara Jade has such a better character development and is such a more compelling female lead then Rey. The one I found disappointing and a real Mary Sue vehicle is Star Trek Discovery. The first season was terrible and not engaging. I’ve heard the second season was better but I cancelled my CBS subscription so I wouldn’t know and don’t care.

      1. TLJ was only ok in comparison to Battlefield Earth.

        1. Did you forget the prequels? Really, Hayden Christiansen moping on screen for two movies? I am not saying it was great but I think it’s better than a lot of people give it credit for. Taste is subjective. The sequels have been a disappointment. I usually have left the theater excited but if quickly leaves and despite having bought them, I rarely watch them anymore. I actually think that Rogue One has been the best of the Disney produced movies. I’m not saying that’s a high bar.

          1. I usually have left the theater excited but if quickly leaves and despite having bought them, I rarely watch them anymore.

            I thought TFA was all right, if clunkily executed. I left TLJ thinking, “Whatever the fuck I just watched, it wasn’t a Star Wars movie.” I’m not even interested in seeing the last film now. Leia’s actress is dead and Han and Luke are storyline dead, and other than Oscar Isaac, none of the new cast has the screen charisma to overcome the horrible storytelling and at least make it a campy experience.

            1. I’ll watch it but just because it is Star Wars. Not certain if I’ll go to the theater (I didn’t for Solo and I’m kind of glad it didn’t).

              1. I rented Solo on Redbox and gave up after the first hour. There was nothing to grab hold of that could keep my interest.

                Still, that was a record compared to the Lady Ghostbusters movie. I gave it a chance, and had to turn it off after 15 minutes. I just can’t stomach anything that features Melissa McCarthy, and Kate McKinnon’s character was an insult to Egon.

            2. I honestly think Daisy Ridley has something compelling about her as an actress, but nobody bothered to give Rey any sort of character. There’s zero depth to her. It’s not that she’s emotionless, she just doesn’t have anything to identify with, no sense of a goal or just even a defining trait.

              1. I honestly think Daisy Ridley has something compelling about her as an actress, but nobody bothered to give Rey any sort of character

                Her work in Murder on the Orient Express showed she can bring at least some personality to a role, so a lot of the issue lies in Rey’s writing and characterization. However, she doesn’t have the presence yet to grab the screen on her own.

          2. The prequels were bad movies. Often hilariously so. If you haven’t seen the Rifftrax versions, you gotta.

            The Force Awakens was fine, if formulaic.

            But The Last Jedi went from bad to hateful and sadistic. A movie made by people who hate the genre, the franchise, the characters, and the fans.

            They spent 4billion on a franchise and them publicly took a dump on it. I wonder if shareholders will ever tire of The Woke making bonfires of their cash.

        2. I liked Battlefield Earth better.

          It wasn’t purposefully taking a dump on something I valued.

        3. You take that back!

  8. Captain Marvel, the first movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with a female superhero in the lead role

    The other reviews I’ve heard, Nick Fury and the cat (identified in-universe as female but played entirely by males) are the leads. Brie Larson isn’t even the favorite for best supporting actress.

    1. I guess they were going for extra diversity points with a transgender cat.

    2. I’m hoping for a director’s cut NC-17 version with Brie Larson showering for thirty minutes and making……… ‘creative use’ of the shower massager.

      1. if they’re gonna do macho fighter pilots, they could at least give us oiled up, topless volleyball

  9. Both her personality and her ass in the movie are flatter than a board. Larson and the director appear to have misunderstood that projecting stoicism doesn’t mean delivering lines like a socially-maladapted sperg.

    1. Given this is a Marvel movie, I think that the writers remembered what happened from critics when they tried to give Black Widow some depth in regards to the training she was forced to go under.

      1. You’re probably giving them too much credit. I doubt they remember much beyond the last drug-fueled party they went to.

    2. You mean she could take advice from Keanu?

      1. Keanu’s a goof, but at least he tries.

    3. I forgot being brainwashed and weaponized turns you into robin Williams too.

      1. Stop making excuses for shitty directing and acting.

  10. Suderman is a misogynist and anti-feminist. To release this bigotry on International Women’s Day is a slap in the face of women everywhere, especially women of color.

    1. I feel so bad for Brie Larson because her father is a white male.

  11. It looks like Captain Marvel is not worth watching. We will just have to wait for Godot.

    1. Godot is so much sexier than Larson and a better actress. She’s been about the only good character in the DCU. Well Margot Robbie was okay too.

      1. Larson has the worst voice. Expressionless honking from the Honkey.

      2. Gal Gadot is magnificent.

      3. Gal Gadot and Margot Robbie together…….mmmmmmmmmm……..

        That sounds like a winning combination.

    2. I see what you did there…

      1. I’ve never seen that artsy fartsy movie. Is it any good? It seems like a movie for big city pretentious douches to namedrop for culture points.

  12. So the movie is exactly like it looked like it would be.
    A professionally executed soulless sermon with an unattractive, activist lead who can’t act?
    Surprise, surprise

    1. And has a history of making statements that alienate a good portion of the viewing population. And surprise, surprise, surprise she managed to stick her foot in her mouth multiple times and had to backtrack during the publicity tour.

    2. Soviet Art is making a comeback.

    3. what are you talking about? she’s quite attractive.

      1. Larson is supermarket attractive, not Hollywood attractive.

        1. A flat ass and resting bitch face is not a good start.
          Add to that her apparent disinterest in being in the movie (judging by the previews) and her hateful personality, and it equals unattractive.
          She’s a stuck up, pretentious bitch who can’t act.
          Big turn off

          1. “Add to that her apparent disinterest in being in the movie”

            The new face of the MCU!

            1. So woke, they’re sleep walking

          2. She is the type of girl that is very rewarding to turn into a quivering, whimpering, snaking, pile of sweaty flesh during rough sex though.

        2. Not even. ugly, manly face. fake boobs and no butt. And that voice yikes!

  13. I like what Superman did: create a ship captain, Captain Marbeau, who turned out to be the heavy in the radio serial starring Bud Colyer as Clark Kent & Superman. The way “Marbeau” sounds on the radio in the recording that exists sounds an awful lot like “Marvel”.

    1. But Firesign did even better, turning Capt. Marvel into the Caped Madman.

        1. MAD #4’s Superduperman, where he fights Captain Marbles was the best shot at the super-types.

          SHAZOOM!!!

    2. I also find DC’s choice to release their Captain Marvel movie (Shazam to the uninitiated) near Marvel’s to be a very interesting move. We have two movies with characters of the same name.

      However, Shazam and his family (Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr) has been popular for decades, having a prominent role in the Justice League and all three of the Infinite and Final Crisis storylines.

      On the other hand, Ms. Marvel was best known for being murdered by Rogue in the early days of X-Men. She just isn’t a prominent or popular character.

      Despite the relative sales of the two franchises so far, I think Shazam just might be the better selling Captain Marvel movie of the year.

      1. Carol Danvers is a great supporting character. I never saw her as that much of a lead though. Her runs in various incarnations of the Avengers, plus her time with the X-Men as ‘Binary’ were decent.

        The original Mar-Vell was a much more interesting character though.

      2. The Shazam! flick won’t be using the CM name. DC gave up using it some years ago, They used to just ban it from covers and merchandise packaging, to keep from violating Marvel’s trademarks.

        None of the post-Golden Age series starring The World’s Mightiest Mortal have sold well. The Big Red Cheese is redundant if played completely straight and aimed at voting-age-plus fanboys. He’s a children’s adventure character, in an age when few actual US children buy comics. Outside of some animation, the type of whimsy you’d find in an issue of WHIZ COMICS is very difficult for modern comics writers and artists to pull off, and when it is done, it doesn’t sell.

  14. >>> It’s a message movie without a message

    hot chicks can fly planes too?

  15. “an obnoxious biker tells her to smile more (she steals his bike)”

    Obviously the rational response. Someone makes a rude comment clearly gives you license to steal their vehicle.

    1. Libertarian Moment!

  16. My favorite criticism is that the Captain Marvel movie looks like it’s going to be a great movie, a potentially positive break from the rest of it’s cinematic universe. The only down side is that they titled it ‘Shazam!’

    1. I am totally hyped for Shazam

      1. It follows a fun Geoff Johns storyline, but doesn’t have Black Adam like the original storyline does. I’m skeptical but interested.

        1. It looks like they’re just marketing it as a light-hearted romp with coming-of-age allusions. I wouldn’t expect a more serious plotline like Black Adam, unless they’ve left it out of the trailers so far.

          1. From what I have seen, he is replaced by Sivana and isn’t in the movie. Would make a nice surprise though.

            1. I wonder what they’ve done with Sivana. Of late, DC has made him ore like Luthor. Which makes sense. A mad scientist type could make far more money licensing patents from their inventions than they ever could robbing a bank.

          2. like “Big”, with tights and a cape

    2. They’re making a movie about Gomer Pyle?

    3. The only real Captain Marvel.

    4. Honestly, I am so hyped for Shazam but i am kinda worried it looks like they are playing up a lot of New 52 changes. I understand in the comics they even made Mary no longer his sister and introduced a whole group of affirmative action Shazams. Much like marvel’s captain marvel I’ll see it but I am so worried it will ruin my second favorite superhero.

  17. Saw it last night with my daughter. She loved it.

    I will say, the entire movie is an epic journey of unwoke Vers becoming the wokest of woke heroes. It’s really anvilicious. But not just ‘woke’ in the sense that she’s forgotten who she is and remembers over the course of the film, but woke in the sense that SJWs love: she starts out trapped in and perpetuating a system of oppression, and becomes an unstoppable force against that oppression. They lay it on pretty thick.

    1. woke in the sense that SJWs love: she starts out trapped in and perpetuating a system of oppression, and becomes an unstoppable force against that oppression. They lay it on pretty thick.

      Yeah, I’ve heard that until the climax every single male character tells her to quit, give up, or stay down. To the point that people who were leery and hoped it would be good are worried it will bleed over into End Game.

      Feige’s said she’s the most powerful character in the MCU. If she kills Thanos, I’ll have learned my lesson. Icosilogies aren’t worth the investment. There’s no point in seeing 19 movies about characters that are just going to lose so that a character can appear almost literally out of nowhere and set the entire Universe back in perfect order practically single handedly. I have a hard time conceptualizing a more distilled version of deus ex machina.

      1. Feige’s said she’s the most powerful character in the MCU. If she kills Thanos, I’ll have learned my lesson.

        Yeah, when I heard that, my first thought was, “Then what the fuck did you tease the Adam Warlock reveal in GotG 2 for?” Seriously, why even bother alluding to that if Captain Marvel is just going to be Lady Superman in the last movie?

        1. They didn’t have time to develop Warlock ahead of the next phase of Marvel films. Which is a pity. If they stick to Jim Starlim’s orignal vision of the character, Warlock could possibly be the most interesting Marvel character brought to the screen. Plus, he and Thanks have always been great frenemies.

  18. The message is that white males are very mean and have toxicity in their DNA in addition to racisms, sexisms, homo phobias, transgender phobias, and Islamic phobias.

    In all, the message is the America is the very worst country that has even existed in the history of the known and unknown universe.

    This is why the democrat/progressive/socialist/communist party wants open borders.

    1. This is why the democrat/progressive/socialist/communist party wants open borders.

      Now connect it to abortion and the thread is complete.

      1. No, you would still have to bitch at him one more time.

        1. And then you would have to come and bitch about that. I guess it is never complete.

          1. You could stop bitching. It would be very complete.

            1. And you could stop being a dick because you think it’s funny, or whatever it is that you do.

              And why do you think I’m bitching? I just think it’s funny when people drag their pet issues into absolutely everything.

              1. “And why do you think I’m bitching?”

                Hmmmm.

                ” I just think it’s funny when people drag their pet issues into absolutely everything.”

                Could be your bitching makes me think that.

  19. My guess is that the “angry white men” taking issue the film or how it’s being marketed probably loved Wonder Woman because it was an excellent film with a strong and beautiful female lead that didn’t reduce its male characters to ridiculous caricatures and didn’t devolve into a sewer or manufactured SJW outrage.

    1. *sewer of manufactured outrage

    2. Yep, I loved Wonder Woman. A majority of those who have issues with Captain Marvel do not have any issue with her being female.

      1. A majority of those who have issues with Captain Marvel do not have any issue with her being female.

        My apprehension, from the start, has been that the false projections of patriarchy are coming from the writers, not from the Universe. There are beings that can appear as either gender. There are beings synthetically distilled from pure intellect. There are beings from races that in no way conform to any/all definitions of humanity, let alone gender. There are beings that have transitioned away from being human (voluntarily and involuntarily). And yet, for some reason, women still can’t get ahead. The patriarchy is so pervasive and oppressive, it extends across the universe and species whether they reproduce sexually or not and, somehow, the males and females of other species recognize it without even possibly being able to comprehend it (or comprehend it without being able to recognize it).

      2. It helps that Gal Gadot doesn’t act like an entitled teenager, nor appear to hate half her audience. She understands that the character is a role model for little girls, but she seems to understand that a lot of guys like Wonder Woman, too, and never went out of her way to openly antagonize the fan base.

      3. Didn’t care for WW fighting in the wrong world war. Otherwise, it was quite enjoyable.

    3. Godot created a *feminine* superhero, and everyone loves her.

      Marvel had a couple of possibilities with the Scarlet Witch and Black Widow, but they decided to push Carol Manvers instead.

  20. The audience score for this on rotten tomatoes is 32% lol. I expect people will try to make excuses and blame it on trolls.

    1. That started to be the explanation weeks ago.

      1. IMDb changed their policy because of it.

    2. ITS TEH SEXITS WITE MENS!!1!

    3. The score by reviewers has trended down to 79% too. That’s big bad news if they can’t even keep the paid shills on board.

  21. Hello Mary Sue
    Goodbye plot
    Sweet Mary Sue
    Nobody likes you

    I knew Mary Sue
    You’d never work
    So hello Mary Sue
    Goodbye plot

    1. What’s all this about “Mary Sue”?

      1. It’s a storytelling trope for a female character that can do no wrong.

        1. Any gender (sex?) can be a Mary Sue. Wesley Crusher from Star Trek TNG is a perfect example.

          1. Didn’t he get some cadets killed and cover it up?

            1. Well, he didn’t specifically do it, or lead it, and those cadets volunteered to do it. A libertarian would say they knew the risks.

              He did cover it up.

          2. To be fair, Wil Wheaton does social media like a female.

          3. You are correct the term can refer to either gender. On rare occasions people will use terms like Marty Stue as a male counterpart to the term, though.

          4. A Mary Sue with a Y-chromosome is a “Gary Stu” or “Marty Stu.”

  22. So, Marvel did a movie which was actually worse than its DC counterpart? That sounds like a film worth not watching. Though who knows, I may see it anyway.

    1. I told my girls I’d take them to see it, but the only part they actually seemed interested in from the was the CGI space battle at the end of the trailer. I’m preparing myself for a lot of whining about when they’re going to get to see Captain Marvel do Captain Marvel things.

    2. the DC counterpart was Green Lantern (macho fighter pilot gets alien powers), so Marvel is still ahead.

      the only round DC won was that Batman v Superman was way better than Civil War.

      1. And gal gadot is a charming, beautiful goddess.
        I would slaughter billions to defend her honor.
        So, Wonder Woman wins

        1. For reals – gal made WW into a B+ film, when otherwise it would’ve be C- with all the peace preachiness

          1. And say what you will, but I’m a Chris (Pine?) fan. He does good work

          2. Peace preachiness is baked into Wonder Woman. Read some of the stories from early in the original Sensation Comics run, or from her WWII era solo comic. Wm Moulton Marston, besides being freaky-deaky re: the sex, was also all about propagandizing for peace.

  23. “When we hear that somebody’s kid was watching the movie and turned to them, and said, he looks like me, or he speaks Spanish like us, we feel like we already won,”

    …when you’ve lost.

    If you are such an inept writer that the only way someone can identify with your characters is by being exactly what they are then you are a failure. A dismal, sad failure.

    People who watch or read Ghost in the Shell identify with the Major. They do this whether they’re male, female, Asian, white, black, Spanish or whatever. They identify with the Major because she’s a relatable hero.

    If your fans are identifying with Miles Morales because he’s a photonegative of Peter Parker that speaks some Spanish then Stan Lee won, with Peter Parker. You’re just a wannabe copying greatness and failing.

    And no amount of Oscars from a PC riddled Participation Academy will ever change that.

    1. Yeah. Remember when anti-racism was about not judging people based on the racial or ethnic groups they belong to? Now we are training people to believe that race/ethnicity need to be main parts of one’s identity. It’s totally backwards.

    2. 100%. Well said.

  24. The headline is misleading, unless we forget Elektra ever existed.

    The first paragraph clarifies that CM is the first MCU female led project.

  25. “In the movie’s finale, she glows with cosmic power and exclaims that she has finally found herself: This is who I am.

    It’s a girl-power movie that can only bring itself to say one thing: Here is a girl, with powers.”

    Captain Mary Sue is the pure expression of the modern Left. Their only value is Power.

    You can never read 1984 Part 3, Chapter 3 enough. O’Brien explains the Modern Left.
    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/19.html

    The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

    1. Stupid squirrels

  26. “In the movie’s finale, she glows with cosmic power and exclaims that she has finally found herself: This is who I am.

    It’s a girl-power movie that can only bring itself to say one thing: Here is a girl, with powers.”

    Captain Mary Sue is the pure expression of the modern Left. Their only value is Power.

    You can never read 1984 Part 3, Chapter 3 enough. O’Brien explains the Modern Left.
    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/19.html

    The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

    1. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?

      But always — do not forget this, Winston — always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.

  27. This is the problem with Woke Marvel. All of their diversity characters are perfect. Marvel’s characters were interesting and superior to DC because the heroes were flawed. Captain America is a man out of his time. Daredevil is blind. Hulk is a monster with anger issues. Etc.

    Woke Marvel is afraid to give any of their minority characters any defects (unless they are treating being a minority as such). New Hulk is Asian and perfect. New Iron Man is black and perfect. Carol Danvers, once a complex and interesting character, is perfect.

    It’s boring.

    1. In the comics,Carol Danvers is a big alcoholic. Cap kicked her out of the Avengers for being drunk on a mission.

      Bet we never see THAT in a movie.

  28. I actually rather liked it.
    It was the story of a person becoming a superhero who also happened to be a woman. (I don’t like movies that bludgeon me with an agenda and this one didn’t. You apparently want the character to be controversial in some way. I don’t mind that she was a good, solid character, period.)
    I also liked that her character developed over time as she remembered who she was, the most important time was in the final moments. It wasn’t awe-inspiring, but it was entertaining. Her character had depth and grew through the movie.
    I’m just not sure what film you watched, but I don’t think it was the same one.

    1. I like her tits.

      1. Fake. Probably to distract from her face

  29. The core problem is that the Marvel Comics Captain Marvel was only really interesting in Jim Starlin’s Thanos War and THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN MARVEL. Both are too complicated to explain in one film, and would play merry hell with the Marvel Universe storyline. What they are left with is a bunch of half-baked ideas from the Original (White and Green Suit days) of the character, the ‘we gotta get female versions covered by copyright’ mess that caused Ms. Marvel, Spider-woman, and She Hulk, and so on.The result doesn’t have a personality because it is drawn off of multiple characters who didn’t have much of their own to begin with.

    Add to this a SJW actress and a tendency on the part of the modern comics industry to lecture, and you have what sounds like a real yawner.

    1. “[…] a tendency on the part of the Modern comics industry to lecture […]”?

      Dude, I have a comic from the 80s telling folks how to put on a condom. Completetly irrelevant to the story. Neil Gaiman just used the last couple of pages of a comic to have Death lecture folks on how to put on a condom.

      Do you even comics?

    2. The handicaps you mention are real, but they made a decent superhero movie anyway.

  30. I’d hit it.

  31. Holy. Sh!t. People. It’s a freaking MOVIE, not a political campaign. And it’s a GOOD movie, at that. I’m a white female, and I enjoyed seeing Carol grow comfortable in her own skin, but didn’t see it as gagging me with an agenda (“Just a Girl” would’ve been better in another scene, with that I can agree).

    Black Panther didn’t exactly “speak” to me personally, but I didn’t go out and spew hate speech all over the internet because it wasn’t tailored specifically to me. I can’t pretend to like being called a “colonizer,” but didn’t get all a$$-hurt over it, either.

    I thought libertarians were a more open-minded sort, at least this one is. But so many of you are just as militant and evangelical as far right- and left-wingers. Gross.

    1. Holy. Sh!t. People. It’s a freaking MOVIE, not a political campaign.

      You’re wrong. Larson’s explicitly indicated that it’s a political campaign.

      Black Panther didn’t exactly “speak” to me personally, but I didn’t go out and spew hate speech all over the internet because it wasn’t tailored specifically to me

      That you’re dishonestly characterizing the arguments here is telling.

      I thought libertarians were a more open-minded sort, at least this one is.

      Concern troll is concerned.

      1. Like I said, gross. Some are arguments. Yours aren’t. Take it personally much?

        1. They’re arguments, you just have no counter for them other than passive-aggressive bitchery.

    2. Interrogative: I thought the Colonizers were out Rigel way?

  32. Should have gone with the Ms. Marvel version of the costume. And Kathryn Winnick.

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  34. I haven’t seen the movie yet but I’m sure it sucks like all the rest of the tripe in this genre.

    1. Christ I hate genre snobs. Go fuck yourself. Seriously.

      Piece of shit.

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  37. So, I saw it.

    It’s not bad.

    They’ve altered some things to put her in a different class–which is undoubtedly tied to Endgame, but it’s not bad.

    And a lot of the feminist virtue signaling is redeemed in a scene near the end.

  38. Saw it, despite Larson’s droll inability to field fan questions and the heavy-handed feminism. It was pretty ok. It was not great (Cpt. Marvel herself is OP, is never is any real danger and there is no tension in the movie whatsoever) but the good humor takes some of the edge off the film’ self-importance. Also, the cast is great – they could’ve made a tutorial for digging a trench and it would be watchable. The plot holes and on-the-nose girl power didn’t manage to ruin my time, even though those precious words and minutes could have been put to better use.

    In the mid-credit’s teaser, we see Cpt. Marvel show up where the not-dead Avengers had regrouped and asks in irritated fashion where Nick Fury was. Hopefully in Endgame we get to see Cpt. Marvel beat up the even-more-insufferable Avengers before taking on Thanos.

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  42. Maybe her boring, bland, personality free persona was just them being accidentally realistic? IMO, a far higher percentage of women than men tend to be kind of vacuous and non interesting, with few personal hobbies or things that really make them unique. Just sayin’.

  43. “forced, like exercises in social-justice box-checking intended strictly to ensure that the character meets all the expectations of the sort of viewers who want their social-justice boxes checked”

    But the real fun comes once all the social justice victim lottery claimants have screwed up the social playing field so thoroughly that the checkboxes start becoming radio buttons, such that you can’t check one without unchecking another. (Shout out to my girl Alyssa Milano.) Then the movie becomes popcorn-worthy again.

  44. I have seen every one of the MCU movies in the theater on opening night. to call me a huge fan? Understatement.

    I dont hold any politics against the MCU. They can be Trump uber menchs, or members of the 99% group eating vegan tofu. Dont care. Marvels gets full political pass from me.

    It came in 15th out of 21 on my list of favorite MCU movies.

    It was an origin story but without an interesting origin.

  45. Stop trying to find the meaning of life from a film based on a comic. It’s not that freakin’ deep.

  46. I thought the movie wasn’t bad. Why? Because they didn’t try too hard and over-do it on the girl power stuff. It was there, but not too annoying. But I agree with Suderman, it wasn’t memorable.

    Wonder Woman was kind of boring to me. I was happy when it ended. With all the hype behind that one, I kept wondering what I was missing.

    I thought the same thing about Black Panther. The movie was fine, although kind of meh. The annoying part was the flatulent hype surrounding it. Seeing a black man as the hero in a movie kicking butt is nothing new. Give him some super-powers and everyone fills his diaper with spasms of joy.

    While I enjoyed the Spiderman movie, it was a little too woke for me. By that I mean that it seemed that, unlike Captain Marvel, they tried too hard. I’ll probably watch it again, though.

    Just make a good movie. Put whatever intersectional combination you want in there, but don’t make it about that. I want a good story, not a message.

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