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Michael Cohen Slated to Link Donald Trump to Wikileaks Today: Reason Roundup

Plus: Using "fake news" to justify censorship, and Elizabeth Warren's childcare plan

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Roger Stone told candidate Trump that WikiLeaks would drop damaging Clinton emails. According to the president's former lawyer and personal henchman Michael Cohen—who is slated to testify before Congress later today—Donald Trump knew in advance that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange planned to expose emails that could be bad for Hillary Clinton.

"I was in Mr. Trump's office when his secretary announced that Roger Stone was on the phone," says draft testimony from Cohen that was obtained by NBC. It continues:

Mr. Trump put Mr. Stone on the speakerphone. Mr. Stone told Mr. Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and that Mr. Assange told Mr. Stone that, within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect of 'wouldn't that be great.'

Roger Stone was indicted last month on allegations of witness tampering, obstruction, and making false statements to federal officials. Cohen pleaded guilty last year to making a false statement to Congress (along with bank fraud, tax evasion, and campaign finance violations) and was sentenced in December to three years in prison.

Now, Cohen allegedly plans to tell Congress that not only did Trump know about Stone's dealings with Wikileaks, he also "knew of and directed the Trump Moscow negotiations throughout the campaign and lied about it. He lied about it because he never expected to win the election. He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the Moscow real estate project."

The project was a skyscraper hotel in Moscow which Cohen was helping negotiate. Last November, Buzzfeed reported that one of Cohen's duties had been to offer Russian President Vladimir Putin the $50 million penthouse of the building.

On Tuesday, Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fla.) tweeted at Cohen:

Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she'll remain faithful when you're in prison. She's about to learn a lot.

Hours later, Gaetz apologized and said "it was NOT my intent to threaten, as some believe I did. I'm deleting the tweet & I should have chosen words that better showed my intent."

FREE MINDS

"Beware the rise of censorship under the guise of stopping fake news," warns Mike Masnick at Techdirt. In the U.K., Damian Collins, a member of Parliament, is "using moral panic and fear mongering over 'fake news' to try to censor content he doesn't like," Masnick explains.

Recently, Collins' committee—the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee—published its big report on fake news, in which it calls for new regulatory powers to "oversee" what content goes on sites like Facebook. With the report, Collins put out quite the bombastic comment about all of this. Here's just a snippet:

"We need a radical shift in the balance of power between the platforms and the people. The age of inadequate self regulation must come to an end. The rights of the citizen need to be established in statute, by requiring the tech companies to adhere to a code of conduct written into law by Parliament, and overseen by an independent regulator."

There are all sorts of sketchy and dangerous ideas in this report, but I want to focus on the one that is most scary. A plan to regulate the amorphous concept of "harmful content."

Read the whole thing here.

FREE MARKETS

Against nationalizing childcare. Reihan Salam offers a good critique of Sen. Elizabeth Warren's national child-care proposal. The "program is nothing if not shrewd," he writes. But:

The dream of a comprehensive federal program that would liberate working parents from having to scrap for a seat in a safe, clean child-care facility that will provide for their little ones for a full day, and all for a price so low as to be negligible, has obvious appeal across the Democratic Party's class divide. But it's also an object lesson in the unseriousness of how we think about social policy. Instead of just helping working families, her proposal risks increasing the federal deficit, driving up the cost of child care, and squeezing stay-at-home parents. And that last risk is one Warren should understand particularly well because she made her reputation as a public intellectual by warning against it.

QUICK HITS

• The U.S. House of Representatives voted to overturn Trump's national emergency declaration. It now must clear the Senate.

• "Trying to stop adult sex work shouldn't be the business of the criminal justice system," said New York state Assemblyman Richard Gottfried at a Monday launch event for Decrim NY. "Throughout history, it hasn't worked, and it makes things worse. Decriminalizing adult sex work is harm reduction."

• Molly Jong-Fast offers a fun look at family life with Fear of Flying author and famed second-wave feminist Erica Jong and a novelist father and grandfather.

• Apple and other phone companies are battling governments around the globe over encrypted devices.

Introducing Culttture: "Has Laura Loomer shouted at someone lately? Culttture will have the video. Did some former Breitbart reporter get banned from Facebook? Culttture has a take. Did Mike Cernovich post a picture of his latest dinner? Culttture will, for some reason, have that as well."

• A woman claiming her pimps sent her to work at legal Nevada brothels as a "form of punishment" is now suing to have legal brothels in Nevada declared unconstitutional.

• President Donald Trump is once again meeting with North Korea's Kim Jong-Un, this time in Hanoi. "For reasons that appear to be rooted in Trump's vanity and impulsiveness, the president has decided to break from 70 years of American policy and seek a rapprochement with North Korea based on a mysterious personal bond with the country's supreme leader. That's hardly a sound foundation on which to devise a strategic vision for the region," writes Damon Linker at The Week. "Yet…the outcome of the president's overtures to Pyongyang could well prove beneficial to the United States."

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  1. …Donald Trump knew in advance that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange planned to expose emails that could be bad for Hillary Clinton.

    THIS IS IT, GUYS. This is what brings the president down!

    1. Especially once you combine it with the really bad Russia stuff that will surely be released any day now.

      1. Mueller is just waiting for his time to strike. I just hope he does it before Trump shuts down the investigation. It’s been going on for 2 years now without interference, so he’s totally going to, right?

    2. You’d think CNN would be a bit more cautious about predicting congressional testimony, but i guess if you sufffer no consequences after being completely and repeatedly wrong, then why bother

    3. No, this isn’t it.

      The really damaging stuff is about how Trump lied under oath about screwing a porn star!

      1. Yeah, because lying under oath about sex is really scandalous, right?

        1. Well, certainly, no Republican president has ever done it before!

    4. …and over half of the country knows where Trump’s coming from.

    5. He’s just not a good democrat, is he?

      1. Well, being a good Democrat used to be about relaxing the drug war, being anti-free trade, particularly in opposing NAFTA and GATT. Being a good Democrat was about being pro-first responder unions, working in trade policy to protect the interests of UAW workers, steel workers, other unions, and other blue collar workers.

        But the Democrats don’t give a shit about that stuff anymore. Now, it’s SJW issues all the way down. And, no, Trump isn’t an SJW, so he’s the enemy–just like average Americans are the enemy. Some of them are more Christian, more racist, more rapey, and more homophobic than others, but just about all of them are the enemy of the Democratic party somehow.

        And Trump is their leader!

    6. Hello.

      No one listens to me. Trust me. DO NOT nationalize daycare. Not unless you want a) waste and more union nonsense and b) another aspect of your life and services politicized.

      Quebec subsidization of daycare is an incoherent mess.

    7. So, honest question: Did Trump do anything illegal or ethically wrong in that scenario?

      1. If you’re trying to get to the truth, here, you can’t get distracted by irrelevant questions, like whether the president did anything illegal or ethically wrong.

        . . . assuming by “the truth” we mean the truth that Trump needs to be hurt politically by any means necessary.

        1. #resist

      2. Illegal is the only one that matters.

        There is no ethics in DC. So why hold Trump to a different standard?

  2. The U.S. House of Representatives voted to overturn Trump’s national emergency declaration

    sounds like we need a national emergency declaration to reduce to a unicameral legislature

  3. The U.S. House of Representatives voted to overturn Trump’s national emergency declaration. It now must clear the Senate.

    The war on first repsonders continues as our First-Responder-in-Chief is not allowed to respond to obvious emergencies! Hopefully the Senate knows everyone’s constitutional duties and does the right thing!

  4. MAGA Personalities Launch Website About Themselves

    twitter?

  5. Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect of ‘wouldn’t that be great.’

    Well there it is. Proof, finally, that Trump also hate Hillary. That’s got to be the final nail in the coffin.

    1. “WikiLeaks is going to provide hard proof that Hillary is a corrupt bitch and her campaign is effectively running the DNC.”

      “Shit, they can’t do that, it might give me an advantage in the election!”

      ::alternate universe where Jeb Bush is the GOP nominee::

  6. Reihan Salam offers a good critique of Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s national child-care proposal. The “program is nothing if not shrewd,” he writes.

    I don’t know that I agree with his framing of the shrewd.

    1. I think he meant to say “shrewed.” As in, concocted by a shrew.

    2. “…framing of the shrewd.”

      Nice, VERY nice.

  7. “Trying to stop adult sex work shouldn’t be the business of the criminal justice system,” said New York state Assemblyman Richard Gottfried at a Monday launch event for Decrim NY.

    SOMEONE’S BEEN PAYING FOR IT.

    1. Shut down all credit card companies until people learn to use them appropriately

    2. Dick got freed?

  8. I’ve been telling everybody 2019 would be the year Drumpf gets removed from office. This Michael Cohen story proves it. The walls are closing in.

    #TrumpRussia
    #ItsMuellerTime

    1. #CohenisCool

    2. Good thing walls don’t work

      1. +100

  9. True Confessions of Texas Vote Harvesters
    The most common tipoff to a tampered election comes in a comparison of the three modes of balloting: early voting, mail-in voting and voting on Election Day itself. The results in a fair-and-square contest should look similar in terms of vote percentage won by each candidate. But a red flag for elections administrators would be a candidate pulling, say, 80 percent of the mail-in total and only 45 percent in the other two pools of votes. In the North Carolina investigation, first-place finisher Harris narrowly won the overall vote but had a lopsided margin in mail-in votes. One concern about efforts to have everyone vote by mail is that these comparisons will be lost, making it harder to find anomalies that suggest fraud.

    …”Other states don’t pay as much attention to it but it got so organized in Texas, something had to be done,” said Buck Wood, a veteran election law attorney and former director of the Elections Division of the Texas Office of the Secretary of State. Texas, he said, also has more elections than other states, and that brings attention to these issues. “You have so many people working this system,” Wood said. “Some of these workers can make $4,000 or $5,000 in an election.”

    1. Watch election fraud by Lefties go up as they get more desperate in coming years.

      1. It’s not like their MO has changed much over the years–if the election is close enough for a recount, keep “finding” enough votes to ensure the Democrat wins.

      2. This is why I’ve abandoned the “voting is a waste of time because any one person’s vote doesn’t matter” position. Every vote counts because you want your guy to win by a wide enough margin that the Dems can’t make up the difference with their shenanigans.

        1. The Gangs of New York doctrine?

        2. The problem is that the margin of fraud keeps expanding.

          1. True and that exposes the truth that the Democratic Party is imploding.

            Winners dont need to cheat.

            1. Bill Belichick says “count my rings, suckah!”

      3. And yet it appears that the case of election fraud referred to in Longtorso’s article involves a Republican.

  10. That’s hardly a sound foundation on which to devise a strategic vision for the region…

    As opposed to all the successful foundations laid before now.

  11. Hours later, Gaetz apologized and said “it was NOT my intent to threaten, as some believe I did. I’m deleting the tweet & I should have chosen words that better showed my intent.”

    someone do an editorial cartoon of an over-the-top mafioso deleting a tweet in which he @’d a local business about what a shame it would be if there was a fire

    1. #MakeYouAnOfferYouCan’tRetweet

    1. I guess she’ll save money now that she won’t need that quarterly abortion.

      1. She has a legal and moral right to empower herself with an 18th abortion. This situation is a human rights violation.

      2. I’m hoping she got a volume discount.

    2. Meet Britain’s worst wife – and she’s proud of it: Kate won’t cook, won’t clean and only makes love to her husband (who works AND does all the chores) once a decade
      My husband is the kindest, most considerate man in the world. During the seven years we’ve been married, Ben has done most of the cooking, cleaning and ironing without ever being asked.

      He brings me an organic buffalo milk cappuccino every morning in bed and once spent hours making fresh syrup from rhubarb to add to my favourite champagne after I’d given birth. And yes, he works full-time.

      But for all he does for me, anxious to make everything in my life better, he gets a raw deal in return. …

      The trouble is that I just can’t do the subservient partner thing. Ben is more likely to arrive at our home in Twickenham, South-West London, after a hard day’s work and find me having a manicure or checking Facebook than slaving over a hot stove.

      1. He brings me an organic buffalo milk cappuccino every morning

        I’ll bet there’s more than buffalo milk in there.

      2. So doing anything at all to keep up your home and relationship is being “subservient”. That man is a saint or gets off on being taken for granted.

      3. When you go to the bar at the marina on the isthmus on Catalina Island, the local specialty drink is called a “buffalo milk”. It’s kind of like a white Russian with rum and . . . some other stuff. They play a lot of Jimmy Buffet and surfer music from the ’60s. Hundreds of launches tied to the pier so that you have to walk through everybody’s to get to shore. Best crowd I’ve been around in so long. It’s like the fun Southern California crowd people used to picture back when people in Southern California were still fun.

    3. However, the patient said she did not plan to get married and does not have the ability to raise a child, insisting that the abortion take place.

      Sounds like a win for her.

    4. “Cum-dumpster achievement unlocked”

    5. The abortion doctors have not clued her in on what causes that.

  12. there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect of ‘wouldn’t that be great.’

    he can’t even get beach boys lyrics right. could he be any less american? (he probably doesn’t even recognize the chandler tone)

  13. More bad economic news.

    Oprah’s Fortune Takes Another Hit on Latest Weight Watchers Rout

    The Drumpf economy is so bad people cannot afford shoes (that’s why Payless is closing stores) or weight loss programs. In fact people might lose weight accidentally since many cannot even afford food.

    #DrumpfRecession
    #UnbanPalinsButtplug

    1. Another sign of the terrible economy is I was able to buy gas for $1.97 yesterday.

      Am I doing this right?

      1. It’s quite simple. Any bad economic news is Drumpf’s fault. Any good economic news should still be credited to Obama.

        1. You are most definitely cracking. It’s not even satire [or parody] any more.

      2. That just means…something something…government needs to get involved.

  14. No one even explained why Culttture has three “T’s” in its name.

    They couldn’t call it KKKulture, could they?

    1. “we’re striking out the other side of the aisle”

    2. Some folks really like their lower-case t’s.

  15. Reihan Salam offers a good critique of Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s national child-care proposal.

    You know, when the ACA was under consideration years ago, and the social media derp was at its peak regarding health care, I used this as an example to ridicule the true believers copy/pasting the same twits/posts. They would paste in something like “I believe that health care is a fundamental right. That no one should go bankrupt because they can’t pay their medical bills…” and I would say “Yes! But why stop there? I believe that CHILD CARE is a fundamental right! If the government is going to care for my heath, they should totally raise my children also!”

    Now, don’t I feel like an ass.

    1. You have the right to sing the blues. You have the right to cable TV….

    2. They said that health care bill should not bankrupt a person but bankrupting a nation is OKAY.

    3. And if African Americans get reparations, then intersectionality demands nothing less than every oppressed group [based on how the feel about their status] must get equal and just compensation. Gay,s, Asians [ok, they get less because of success], Hispanics, Trans, the list will just go on and on. Even women, as oppressed as they have been and continue to be by the white male patriarchy, should get a good slice of that pie. What the country does not do to bankrupt itself with guaranteeing rights to healthcare, post secondary education, child care, housing…this will be the final nail in the social justice coffin.

    4. I would say “Yes! But why stop there? I believe that CHILD CARE is a fundamental right! If the government is going to care for my heath, they should totally raise my children also!”

      They’re already feeding kids in the schools whose parents are too lazy to make them breakfast or lunch. This was just the next step; in countries like Sweden, children are effectively considered the property of the state.

      1. Socialists have to crack the family unit and get inside to force that government dependence.

        Socialism is a disease.

        1. Yup. “Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

  16. A woman claiming her pimps sent her to work at legal Nevada brothels as a “form of punishment” is now suing to have legal brothels in Nevada declared unconstitutional.

    There is no way this isn’t some kind of manufactured suit.

    1. I’m sure there was an amicus brief filed by the Junior Anti-Sex League.

  17. Donald Trump knew in advance that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange planned to expose emails that could be bad for Hillary Clinton.

    Annnndddd?

    1. And Trump knew Stone was lying to federal investigators

      1. It’s part of a greater conspiracy to accept Russia’a help and use govt power to obstruct the inquiry into the Russian plot.

        1. If you have personal knowledge that your associate has committed a crime and you’re the beneficiary of that crime then you’re obstructing justice by not revealing the truth of what you know.

          1. Poor ordinary person troll.

            Of course his programmer said the same thing when Hillary associates were not hiding any information about criminal activities.

            1. Partisan application of the law is a hallmark of totalitarian regimes.

              A few FBI agents committed conspiracy to commit a coup. Wake me up when they get arrested.

          2. “then you’re obstructing justice by not revealing the truth of what you know.”

            Lolwut? No. Just no.

          3. Tell it to Andrew McCabe.

        2. Ah, so Trump is going down this time for sure.

          1. Are you sure it’s THIS time, or is supposed to be NEXT time?

          2. Yes, eventually Trump will be indicted. That he is President is the only thing stopping from happening now.

              1. By all appearances. I can’t imagine how Trump answered Mueller’s questions. I bet he lied if he was asked about Wikileaks.

                1. What ever happened to that 2 year investigation into Hillary using a British spy and the Russian intel services to rig an election?

            1. The WALLS (that don’t work) are closing in!

            2. Considering how many times he got indicted before running for President, I’d say that he’s President is the only reason it might happen.

        3. It’s part of a greater conspiracy to accept Russia’a help and use govt power to obstruct the inquiry into the Russian plot.

          “Anything that hurts the Democrats is illegal and illegitimate.”

          1. Anything that helps the Democrats is legal and legit.

            Damaging information from Russia. Trump bad, Hillary ok.

        4. “”It’s part of a greater conspiracy to accept Russia’a help”‘

          Apparently, not a crime. Or a partisan application of the law since Hillary’s camp also received Russian help.

          Wikileaks did what wikileaks does. That’s nothing new.

          Hillary’s Russian information was according to Steele himself for the purpose of contesting the election. Interestingly that information was used in a secret court in an attempt to remove the President from office. Has any other candidate ever done anything like that?

          Hillary’s actions are far more a threat to the concept of a free society than cheering Wikileaks for doing what Wikileaks does.

          1. Hillary was aiding and abetting a bureaucratic coup of a duly elected President.

            The coup might not fit the Constitutional definition of treason, but its an ‘affront to the Constitution’.

    2. This. Everyone knew WikiLeaks had dirt on Clinton. Hell, we had the pee dossier a whole year before it was published and even brought it to Rick Wilson’s attention, which is most likely how McCain became aware of it. It is still suspicious how Veselnitskaya posted a pic of a surrogate with McCain the year before and met with Fusion GPS, demonrat operatives and fmr Obama ambassador to Russia McFaul just one week after the Trump Tower meeting and how she entered the country with an expired visa…but don’t ask those kinds of questions!

      Browsing the internet and being able to read the writing on the wall isn’t a crime.

      1. And it’s not like Trump needed to have found this on the internet himself. With Bannon as his campaign manager, Bannon probably had a pretty good idea of what was out there in terms of scandal bait. I’m sure he had regular discussions with Trump. Why wouldn’t Trump discuss scandal accusations with his campaign advisors?

        It’s hard to remember when and how you first learned something years after the fact, especially when you didn’t know it would be the subject of a special counsel probe at the time you learned it. Coen remembers it all clearly, though–and it just happens to be what the special counsel was hoping to find?

        1. Cohen has no loyalty to his ex-client Trump and is willing to discuss all matter of attorney-client privilege.

          Cohen’s loyalty was to money and he got caught evading taxes, etc and needs to get a payday off his insider knowledge of Trump.

          Luckily, Trump has other lawyers who are not dirty and give him good advice.

    3. My leftist friends LOVED Wikileaks when it made Bush look bad. Funny they don’t feel the same when it was used against their person.

  18. We need a radical shift in the balance of power between the platforms and the people.

    Shift away from both of them and to bureaucracy.

    The age of inadequate self regulation must come to an end.

    And the age of hamfisted state regulation to, well, continue.

    The rights of the citizen need to be established in statute…

    By removing by force their choices.

  19. Mr. Trump put Mr. Stone on the speakerphone.

    I don’t believe a word of this unless the speakerphone was solid gold.

  20. Dopehat is such a fucking moron. Yeah Ken, they are going to throw a sitting member of the House of Representative in jail for tweeting about some dingbats mistresses. Let me put it this way, Ken White is a complete idiot and the fact that he has clients at all and that people really do pay him for his legal advice says very bad things about the quality of the legal profession in this country.

    1. The desperation of Lefties is palpable.

      Cohen and Mueller are the last hopes to get Trump.

      They are dreading admitting to the public that they spent 2 years and millions for nothing and Trump gets to use that to get reelected. Then with no special prosecutor going after Trump, a special prosecutor can go after Hillary and the DNC.

      1. The problem for someone like Dopehat is that he is such a pathetic suck up to the establishment, he can’t be realistic about all of this or hedge his bets. So he just keeps doubling down on stupid and looking more and more foolish.

        1. He is a prime example of why licensing of lawyers does not keep out bad ones.

          Lawyers are famous for making our legal system more complicated and protecting that payday.

          1. While in law school, I argued that the state has no business licensing lawyers and that licensing actually tended to ensure mediocrity.

            Almost all of my law school mates, flush with their statist indoctrination, disagreed.

            1. It totally does. The thing that bugs the hell out of me about White is that he is always pushing the TAPP laws to make it harder to win libel suits. He makes it sound like all of his clients are little old ladys being sued by big mean politicians. And I am sure a few are. But I doubt all of them are. I bet most of his clients are media companies and he is out shilling for TAPP laws because it benefits his big money clients. That is of course his right and totally fine. What is not fine is how dishonest he is about those laws effects and his proclaimed pure motivations for supporting them. He is just a con man.

              1. Dopehat wants his cake and eat it too.

                Some journalists disclose potential conflicts of interest in their articles to illustrate that are trying to give their opinions instead of paid propaganda.

    2. I mean, the Congressidiot did do the “nice place you got here, be a shame if anything happened to it” schtick directed at Cohen. And he was stupid enough to do it on twitter.

      1. That is called a Tuesday on Capitol Hill. They all do it because they can.

  21. Reason staff are linked to Reason.com but for some reason Trump being linked to Wikileaks.com is super duper serial.

    You can even tell the media knows this is nuthingburger.

  22. Good to see Liz has recovered from her bout of hysteria on State Radio yesterday.

    1. Do tell.

  23. “I’m About to Break”: Jussie Smollett and the Pressure of Hollywood Fame
    The ‘Empire’ actor claimed to be the victim of a heinous crime that played perfectly into Hollywood’s worst fears about hate in America. Did the pressures of childhood fame or a struggling music career play a role in causing him to concoct what police are now deeming an elaborate hoax?…

    1. Childhood fame? That fucker is 36 years old. I realize in The Current Year that many people this age are still emotional adolescents, but he’s still a grown-ass man who knew what he was doing.

      1. He has been acting since 1991. He was the TV series Cro (93-94) and On Our Own (94-95).

  24. Cohen the perjurer? Lol

    1. A known liar is going to claim Trump did business in Russia and paid off a mistress. Its a game changer man. A game changer.

      1. These are the same people who thought a whore was going to take Trump down. It is impossibly comical.

        1. And the Trump University suit. Remember that one? That was going to take him down for sure. Impossibly comical is a good description. If you wrote a novel with this plot, it would never get published because no one would believe anything like that could happen.

          1. John, as soon as I saw the reference to Dopehat, I knew you would have something to say.

            You should know that branding is powerful – look, I have been referring to him as Dopehat for a couple of years now – even in a conversation with my wife.

            1. Its funny. For a long time I made fun of White, who is a Reason Foundation board member, for seemingly begining every sentece with “I am a 1st Amendment Lawyer”. It got under his skin so much he once came into the comment boards and fired back. Now, I never see him drop the “I am a first amendment lawyer” line at all.

              I got into a huge back and forth with him on email about the Flynn plea agreement. I think that it is potentially an involuntary plea because the government withheld exculpatory information from him before his plea. It is not clear to me at all that Flynn or his laywers knew that the agents who took his statement didn’t think he lied. And that fact that the judge keeps putting off his sentencing makes me think there is something going on and its a bad plea.

              White, just dissmissed me as a crank. And when pushed on it basically reverted to credential dropping “I went to Harvard and worked as a US attorney how dare you question me” and staight up appeals to authority that DOJ is above reproach. It was some of the worst pro government shilling I have ever fucking seen. And to think that jerk calls himself a Libertarian.

              1. You have done battle with him on other matters, IIRC?

                Your perception of him as a credential dropping jerk is spot-on.

                He will always be DOPEHAT to me.

                1. Just the Flynn plea. He pissed me off and I sent him a long email explaining why I thought the Flynn plea might be garbage. I never said it was garbage, I said it looked it might be and if nothing else it looks like Flynn pled guilty to something he didn’t do just to get the government off his back.

                  His response was to call me a lunatic. It wasn’t so much that he disagreed with me, it was that he seemed to have no substantive response to my points other than “how dare you question me”. I have emailed with plenty of people I disagree with who have been really thoughtful interesting people who while they didn’t concede my point at least gave it consideration. White is just an asshole. And I forgive that if he was actually smart. And the truth is he isn’t. He is proof you don’t have to be that smart to go to Harvard Law.

                  1. He pissed me off and I sent him a long email explaining why I thought the Flynn plea might be garbage. I never said it was garbage, I said it looked it might be and if nothing else it looks like Flynn pled guilty to something he didn’t do just to get the government off his back.

                    His response was to call me a lunatic.

                    lol

                    It wasn’t so much that he disagreed with me, it was that he seemed to have no substantive response to my points other than “how dare you question me”.

                    Sounds familiar.

                    1. You never do that Crusty. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

                  2. “It looks like Flynn pled guilty to something he didn’t do just to get the government off his back.”

                    Mueller was going after his son.

                    “Former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn has expressed concern about the potential legal exposure of his son, Michael Flynn Jr., who, like his father, is under scrutiny by special counsel Robert Mueller, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.

                    Flynn’s concern could factor into decisions about how to respond to Mueller’s ongoing investigation . . . .

                    Flynn’s wife, Lori, shares his concerns about their son’s possible legal exposure, according to a person who knows the family.

                    Interviews conducted by special counsel investigators have included questions about the business dealings of Flynn and his son such as their firm’s reporting of income from work overseas, two witnesses interviewed by the team told CNN.

                    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/…..index.html

                    1. I believe it was subsequent to that when Flynn plead guilty. Far as I’m concerned, the Mueller probe lost the benefit of the doubt after that one. And not only because of they were willing to force guilty pleas by going after family.

                      When all the Mueller probe can get is someone to become a witness for the prosecution by getting the witness to plead guilty to lying, then the reasonable assumption is that the prosecutor is scraping the bottom of the barrel to justify the continuation of his mandate. When a prosecutor gets his star witness to testify for the prosecution in exchange for the witness pleading guilty to lying, he’s undermining his own case.

                      If the only witnesses Mueller has are witnesses who’ve plead guilty to lying, then he has no credible witnesses. If this were a standard criminal defense case, that would be a defense attorney’s dream come true. You might even get the charges dismissed before it ever went to trial.

              2. Reason is infested with people like Dopehat who try and call themselves Libertarians.

                What they say clearly makes them no Libertarian.

                As you laid out in your comments about the Flynn plea, how can a contract (plea) be valid if there was fraud (DOJ withholding exculpatory evidence)? Why would a Libertarian be against making sure a plea was not induced via fraud?

                I just laugh at anyone who considers the FBI, DOJ, and other government agencies above reproach. There is ample evidence that many agencies/bureaucrats are intentionally violating the Constitution (NSA domestic spying without warrants).

                1. Reason is infested with people like Dopehat who try and call themselves Libertarians.

                  What they say clearly makes them no Libertarian.

                  lol omg

                  1. Crusty is a prime example of this.

                    1. Be nice to Crusty LC. He isn’t smart enough to really have an ideology. So, it is not fair to call him out for not being a Libertarian or anything else really.

                    2. Don’t be angry Crusty.

                    3. lol… Crusty….lol

                    4. Look, buddy, lc1789 is the final arbiter of what all words mean. If you don’t like his definitions, find a new language. Being a “Libertarian” means agreeing with lc1789 on absolutely everything. Get with the program.

      2. Remember when they hated Cohen for helping Trump?

        Now they love Cohen and when he does not single-handedly take down trump, Lefties will go back to hating Cohen.

        1. Well one leftie, a regular on Joy Reid’s weekend shows, Elie Mystal, on Dopehat’s Twitter feed, said:

          “I just want to make it abundantly clear that I think Cohen is a terrible human being who is also dumb and partially responsible for infecting the country with a bigoted sexist conman.

          The enemy of my enemy is still a dick.”

          1. Elie Mystal is quite a piece of work. He made is reputation writing for Above the Law. And most of his writing consisted of making the legitimate criticism that lower tier law schools were ripping off their students. The problem was he called anyone who went to such schoold “third tier trash” and is a complete elitest asshole.

            Come to find out that Mystal went to Yale but then washed out of the big law firm job he got after about six months and defaulted on his loans. He is basically just a bum. And living proof that yes affirmative action does get unqualified people into big name schools. But he still calls anyone who didn’t go to an Ivy “third tier trash”. Mystal is a first class garbage human being.

            1. Above the Law website has this bio:

              Elie Mystal joined ATL in 2008 by winning the ATL Idol Contest. Prior to joining ATL, Elie wrote about politics and popular culture at City Hall News and the New York Press. Elie received a degree in Government from Harvard University and a J.D. from Harvard Law School. He was formerly a litigator at Debevoise & Plimpton but quit the legal profession to pursue a career as an online provocateur. He’s written editorials for the New York Daily News and the New York Times, and he has appeared on both MSNBC and Fox News without having to lie about his politics to either news organization.

            2. If Eddie Murphy were ever to do another Klump movie, Elie Mystal could play one of his cousins – the visiting law professor.

              1. Pffftttt…..

  25. Holding a hearing designed to set up the impeachment of the president while the president is meeting with a foreign adversary and negotiating to get our adversary to give up his nuclear weapons and ICBM ambitions is kind of . . . what’s the right word, “treasonous”?

    They should have delayed the hearing until the end of Trump’s summit with Kim. Even if you want Trump to be impeached, all Americans should hope the president is wildly successful in his negotiations to rid North Korea of nuclear weapons, and if any Nancy Pelosi’s “henchmen” can testify that she knew this hearing would undermine Trump’s effectiveness in his summit with Kim, then . . .

    “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

    —-U.S. Constitution, Article III, section 3

    I’m not saying that there should be a special prosecutor appointed to investigate whether Nancy Pelosi is guilty of treason, but if the American people judge that she has intentionally undermined the president in his negotiations with our enemy, giving him aid, then the American people should make the Democrats pay for that at the ballot box.

    Even if her anti-Trump mania simply blinded her to the likely consequences of her actions, this is more than unsightly and unseemly. It’s wrong.

    1. Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy working for her for years. Does anyone think the Chinese are above buying off US politicians or that US politicians are above being bought off?

      1. The Iran-Contra affair was raging in the background at the time, but there’s no way the Democrats, who controlled the House at the time, would have held the Oliver North hearings while Reagan was meeting with Gorbachev in Reykjjavik.

        That would have been treasonous.

        1. They are treasonous. They would rather North Korea keep its nukes and something horrible happen than they give them up and we get peace because Trump would get credit for it. They are just depraved.

          1. “They would rather North Korea keep its nukes and something horrible happen than they give them up and we get peace because Trump would get credit for it.”

            If Trump gets anything less than total capitulation from Kim, I’d expect the Democrats to take credit for it at this point.

            Again, my point isn’t that this needs to be looked at from a legal perspective but from a political one. TDS is all fun and games when it’s about journalists who lose all sense of logic and proportion whenever Trump steps into the picture. There isn’t anything funny about it if Democrats have become so treasonous in their hearts that they congratulate each other for undermining the president’s negotiations with North Korea to end its nuclear program.

            In their TDS corrupted hearts, I think many of them really have become traitors, and I hope this exposes them to contempt by the voters.

            1. Makes perfect sense. The Lefty media are not on Team America. They are on Team Socialist.

              1. Just to be clear, I’m talking about Democrat politicians.

            2. Our enlightened overlords, Obama and Clinton, made sure Kim can’t give up his nukes when they took out Qaddafi

              1. Knife in the butt or keep nukes – hmmm….

        2. The USSR was still around then and the Lefties thought they had time to help the Commies destroy America.

          The desperation of Lefties is palpable. Every day Trump is in office, he rolls back more and more of their Socialist pipe dreams.

          Trump working out a peace deal to end the Korean War or NK get rid of nukes would be a disaster to Democrats running in 2020.

          Its like Trump working out trade deals for lower trade restrictions with our trading partners. The Lefties cannot let that happen.

    2. The media are treasonous propagandists, so I never put it past them to sabotage real achievement for American interests by lying about the person or company making that progress.

      1. I’m not talking about the journalists, here, but the Democratic leadership themselves. If they’re holding hearings to undermine the president while he’s negotiating to end North Korea’s nuclear program, they can’t blame that on journalists.

        1. Definitely agree about the Congressmen holding hearings.

          We wouldn’t even know about it if it weren’t for the media though.

          Trump clearly does not tell the media anything so they can’t sabotage trade talks with specifics. The media hates that. The media attacks any attempts to get lower trade restrictions and refuses to print that Trump already offered free trade which our trading partners refused.

    3. “How dare a coequal and independent branch of government operate separately from another coequal and independent branch of government! It’s treason, I tell ya!”

      1. So the FBI is a coequal and independent branch of government to you, huh.

    4. I think treason is a bit much. But it certainly shows that they care more about getting Trump than anything they actually claim to care about.

  26. Let’s see who I believe more about Trump’s intentions in seeking the presidency: a lawyer who is going to jail on trumped up charges and can’t argue a way out of a paper bag, or Trump, who has been intellectually consistent for the past 50 years and flirted with presidential runs on multiple occasions throughout his life.

    1. +100

    2. All the Democrats are accomplishing by this is working their own supporters into a lather. The Democrats may not realize it, but when they’re in a lather, it’s not a good look for them. Democrats in a lather are scary as hell to average Americans.

      Try to picture what would happen to the Democrats in 2020 if they were running against President Pence after Trump were removed from office. After Harris, Sanders, and Warren have gone to extremes trying to be more extreme than each other in an attempt to win the primaries, then the plan is to do an about face and beat Pence in white, blue collar, swing states of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin?

      Pelosi is being dragged along in this, I guess. She can’t really be so stupid as to think this is in the best interests of the Democrats come election time, so I’m guessing she must think that if she doesn’t go along with this, it’ll cost her the Speaker’s chair.

      1. You know your Party is in trouble when Pelosi is the voice of reason.

      2. If she does go along with this, it will cost her the Speaker’s chair.

        1. If she doesn’t go along, I’m guessing she thinks she’ll lose the chair sooner. And that’s the important consideration. Once you lose it, I don’t think you get it back.

          I should add that as bad as Pelosi is, her replacement will probably be worse.

          1. ‘Worse’….

            Anything that hastens the demise of the Democratic Party is a good thing.

  27. “Michael Cohen Slated to Link Donald Trump to Wikileaks Today”

    All I hoped for was a non-proggy SCOTUS appointment, but he keeps doing better.

  28. “”For reasons that appear to be rooted in Trump’s vanity and impulsiveness, the president has decided to break from 70 years of American policy and seek a rapprochement with North Korea based on a mysterious personal bond with the country’s supreme leader. That’s hardly a sound foundation on which to devise a strategic vision for the region,” writes Damon Linker at The Week.”

    For reasons of sanity, this lame POS can be safely ignored. Perhaps we can arrange single-payer medical aid for TDS-victims.

    1. It’s a stunningly stupid take. Who cares WHY he is doing it, he’s doing it. They just don’t want him to get credit.

      1. Article at “The Week”

        “World Hunger Ended for All the Wrong Reasons!”
        […]
        “Trump did it ’cause he’s vain!”

    2. HE’S DOING IT RONG!

      1. Ha Row!

  29. “Molly Jong-Fast offers a fun look at family life with Fear of Flying author and famed second-wave feminist Erica Jong and a novelist father and grandfather.”

    Well played. You troll, you

  30. “Senators grill pharma executives over rising drug prices”
    […]
    “Prices are astronomically high because that’s where pharmaceutical companies and their investors want them,” said Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden….”
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senators-
    grill-pharma-executives-over-rising-
    drug-prices-today-2019-02-26/

    Isn’t he the guy whose wife is whining about gov’t interference?

  31. Still nothing on democrats voting against a bill to keep newborn babies alive.

    So much libertarian-ing going on around here.

    1. A newborn the mother doesn’t want has no need for liberty.

      1. It’s barely even a person!

        1. Send it to Mexico so it can enter via caravan, then we’ll talk about rights

    2. Because as we all know, newborn babies can’t be kept alive without appropriate legislation enabling it.

      1. It won’t surprise me if in 20 years they’ll be arguing for them to be on the menu. Soylent veal at the 2040 DNC convention.

  32. The U.S. House of Representatives voted to overturn Trump’s national emergency declaration. It now must clear the Senate.

    It must also be signed by Trump even if the Senate passes it.

    1. Just needs to be passed by veto proof margins. Do they have the votes?

      1. Nope. The House vote was 245 to 182. Not 2/3 of the House.

  33. Roger Stone was merely stating what the New York Times and the Washington Post had already reported in the Summer of 2016 , that Julian Assange would be releasing more documents damaging to Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

    How did the NY Times and Washington Post obtain this information before Stone ? Easy , Assange had been telling the world for months that he had more documents he would be releasing which would be devastating to Clinton.

  34. What’s the point of running for president if you can’t have sex with anyone you want and then cover it up? No wonder it’s hard to find good candidates these days.

    1. Can’t you see that Harvey Weinstein has changed everything forever?

      A thousand years from now, the only thing that will still matter to historians about our era will be Harvey Weinstein. Well, that and which bathrooms transgender people can use in North Carolina.

  35. Like a Roger Stone…..come on sing it!

  36. Roger Stone told candidate Trump that WikiLeaks would drop damaging Clinton emails. According to the president’s former lawyer and personal henchman Michael Cohen?who is slated to testify before Congress later today?Donald Trump knew in advance that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange planned to expose emails that could be bad for Hillary Clinton.

    So what?

    What is wrong with this?

    1. Matthew McConaughey voice:

      Imagine it was a Democrat.

      1. Ok.

        So what? What is wrong with it

        See the thing is, you’re on a libertarian website. You keep forgetting that and it makes you look like a stupid bootlicker.

        1. So why don’t more libertarians stop sucking Republican cock?

          1. “So why don’t more libertarians stop sucking Republican cock?”

            Breaking news! Shitbag can’t find anything wrong with knowing Wikileaks had stuff on the hag, tries misdirection!

          2. Why don’t collectivists stop making general assumptions about diverse groups?

            1. Try being a little more diverse with the whole Republican cocksucking.

              1. Who made you the dick police?

                1. The dick police academy of course.

                  1. So no one. In that case why are you fucking whining so much?

          3. Name these “libertarians.”

            And then explain why you give a fuck about them since they’re largely irrelevsnt.

            1. He doesn’t. It’s him avoiding answering the question.

      2. I can guarantee that Assange is not a member of the GOP.

      3. It was a Democrat.

        See the leak of the Access Hollywood tape.

        1. Obvious, pathetic duplicity does not become ideologues.

          Being an ideologue is also pretty fucking stupid.

          1. Either you are pro-leak or anti-leak.

            there is no third option.

            1. Tony is a dipshit. That is his third option.

            2. Can you be more specific?

              1. “Can you be more specific?”

                OK, you’re a fucking imbecilic dipshit.

              2. Why do you ask for specificity when all you are going to do is move the goalpost or change the subject?

                1. Because he’s a mendacious crybaby.

    2. Nothing. Cohen is trying to portray the president as naughty, but not criminal. He will be out at the beginning of Trump’s second term.

    3. Don’t you see? This means that Trump knew!

      1. Finally, they admit that Trump does know as much as America.

        Americans all knew that Wikileaks had dirt on Hillary and the DNC.

        1. He should have waited until he heard about it on the news. Like Obama.

  37. “That’s hardly a sound foundation on which to devise a strategic vision for the region,” writes Damon Linker at The Week. “Yet…the outcome of the president’s overtures to Pyongyang could well prove beneficial to the United States.””

    We hates him! Oh we hates him! But… what he’s doing might be a good thing. Our brains hurts!

  38. Rep. Jordan is a petty cuntbubble, huh?

    1. From the behavior of pretty much all Congresspersons, the only conclusion one can draw is that being a petty cuntbubble is listed in the Constitution as one of the requirements to be eligible to be elected to Congress.

      1. We are so far beyond Will Rogers?esque cuteness and both-sidesism, I’m sorry to say.

        1. “We are so far beyond Will Rogers?esque cuteness and both-sidesism, I’m sorry to say.
          reply to this report spam”

          Well, of course you think that. You’re a partisan.

          I mean, the so-called “rising star” of your tribe is a narcissist of a degree of astounding imbecility such that I wouldn’t trust her to park my fucking car.

          From the perspective of the plurality of us out here and aren’t a part of either party that are watching this series of shit-shows, both sides have lost their fucking minds, assuming they had minds to lose to begin with.

        2. What ever happened to that 2 year investigation into James Clapper and John Brenner lying to Congress under oath?

  39. Donald Trump is Finished !!!

    The tipping point !!!

    Bombshell!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUvfZj-Fm0

    1. Hahah. Those propagandists and their breaking news about how trump is finished…back in 2017.

      Thanks for all this Trump!

      1. The Walls are closing in on him, and it isn’t the racist one on the border !!

        1. Remember when they used to call it “racist wall”. I was always laughing and wondering how a wall could be racist. Like are white walls uppity against black walls?

    2. Chris Matthews looks close to tears!

  40. I’m seeing a bunch of people here who routinely disagree with each other (and me) on a whole host of issues. I don’t remember the last time I saw libertarians agree about anything–including the NAP!

    But here we are, and it seems like pretty much everybody agrees that the setup and content of this Michael Cohen testimony appears to be utter horseshit. There are the usual suspect trolls, but, apart from that, it appears to be unanimous!

    Am I wrong?

    Is there a regular in the house who sees this whole thing as anything but horseshit?

    Speak up! I want to hear what you have to say.

    1. Cohen testimony=Comey testimony=nuthingburger

    2. You’re such a pathetic sack of partisan horseshit.

      Are you actually watching this?

      1. Sorry Tony, no one cares what Cohen has to say and no one but people like you will believe him even if they do. Go find some other bone to chew on.

        1. At some point you’re going to have to cope with reality. It’s not my fault you put all your chips on a stupid, fat, amoral treasonous orange grifter. In fact, I think that’s probably your fault.

          1. “All chips”?

            Are you one of these people whose TDS has gotten so out of hand, you think that if Trump is impeached, it means Nancy Pelosi will become president until the next election?

            There’s this guy named “Pence”. Ever heard of him?

            1. I am totally on record as tentatively supporting keeping the ridiculous disaster Trump in office instead of the ridiculous fundie Pence who would look sane by comparison, on the basis that the American people are stupid and always willing to forgive and forget when it comes to Republican calamities. This is assuming that Trump won’t nuke anything or otherwise cause a truly major disaster. Pence is hardly an improvement.

              But I’m keeping a list and checking it twice for who took Trump’s dick down their throat, because it’s just really not going to end well for him, and you idiots need to be held responsible for your perpetuating this nonsense.

            2. Oh yeah, that’s why Pelosi keeps winning the House Speaker seat. They want her to be President after they remove Trump AND Pence.

              I forgot about that. Fucking hilarious!

          2. The reality is Tony that Trump isn’t going to be impeached and since the Democrats seem to have gone insane is likely to be re-elected. It is what it is. The more you pretend otherwise the more angry and bitter you will be when it doesn’t pan out.

            1. Do you really want the feeling that comes with the dreaded realization that FOX News has been lying to you and buttering your ass this whole time? Truth is hard to contain.

              1. I don’t watch Fox News Tony. Has it ever occured to you that you just believe whatever makes you feel good regardless of the truth?

              2. Tony, you’re one of the few people on here to watch FOX.

                Libertarians tend to get their news from numerous sources since we dont have propagandists like CNN, ABC, Vox, NYT, WaPo are for the Lefties.

            2. If a majority votes to indict in the House, the Senate sure as hell won’t vote to convict.

              And if they did, it would be the end of the Democrats’ hopes to retake the White House in 2020.

              Progressives have been cursed to imagine that the American people want whatever it is that the progressives want to do.

              1. “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
                Sun Tzu

                Its quite amazing that Lefties cannot accept what is coming their way. They got us here with so much incremental Socialism and yet they are causing it to collapse by pushing rapidly for the Green new Deal.

          3. “At some point you’re going to have to cope with reality.”

            Cohen is a perjurer and an attorney who gave up his client to save himself.

            That’s reality.

            1. It’s like every day is a new day to you, huh?

              What incentive does he have to lie under oath now?

              And why do you continue to lick Republican nutsack?

    3. Does OBL’s opinion count?

    4. Hey its run buy the folks who gave us Spartacus.

    5. “Utter horseshit”? That depends.

      If you mean “made-for-TV drama masquerading as testimony”, then yes.

      If you mean “TREASONOUS DEMOCRATS!!!!!”, then no.

  41. so now its Trumps vanity that he wants peace with N. Korea, who cares why as long as there is peace. But no TDS

    1. NK will not give up its nuclear program because it has absolutely no incentive to. I’d like to be proved wrong, but it’s not like Trump spend months and years preparing for such a thing. This is a photo-op attempt to distract from the real news today, and sadly all it’s accomplishing is making Kim more legitimate as a world leader.

      Libertarians for totalitarian communists!

      1. I agree that little will happen but unlike all those before him Trump is actually trying and of course Trump doesn’t study up on the issue and neither have any presidents before him they were just to vain to sit with a leader for N. Korea

        1. Trump can also get a final resolution to the ongoing Korean War.

          Lefties hate Trump dealing with North Korea because something good possibly can come from it.

      2. It has lots of incentive to give up its nuclear program. Giving up its nuclear program would enablt it to come back into the community of nations and function to some degree as a regular nation and no longer rely on criminal enterprise to survive. That would make things much better for the regime.

        The problem is that giving up nukes could cause them to be percieved as weak and cause the regime to collapse entirely. So, the trick is to convince them that giving up nukes will not lead to their doom.

        1. Good luck with that.

          1. What other alternative is there? Pay them protection money the way Clinton did or Obama did with Iran? That doesn’t seem like a very good idea. Go to war?

            Sorry Tony but being an angry retard hoping bad things happen so you can feel better about yourself isn’t much of a plan or a very good course of action.

            1. As long as we both pay attention to facts, we’ll know sooner or later what NK decides to do.

              I think this is a reckless attempt to distract from Cohen’s testimony, and I know for an absolute fact that if Obama had spooned Kim like this you’d be blowing every gasket at your disposal.

              1. Yeah, engaging in peace talks and trying to denuclearize the Korean penisula is “reckless”. If only you could understand how stupid you sound.

                1. Once people admit that Lefties like Tony want America destroyed, true peace is a threat.

                  Peace is shown to promote more prosperous trade and wealth gains.

                  Socialism and Anarchy depend on conflict to thrive.

              2. Tony|2.27.19 @ 12:04PM|#
                “As long as we both pay attention to facts….”

                Followed by:
                “I think this is a reckless attempt to distract from Cohen’s testimony, and I know for an absolute fact that if Obama had spooned Kim like this you’d be blowing every gasket at your disposal.”

                Cohen’s statement that Trump knew about Wikileak’s dirt on the hag after the news papers did? That testimony?
                Shocking!
                And then you drift over to imbecilic hypotheticals.

                1. This is for all of you: I’m not the one bending over and taking it up the ass to defend a politician, let alone an obvious hack and wannabe autocrat. That would be the libertarians.

                  1. Tony|2.27.19 @ 12:54PM|#
                    “This is for all of you: I’m not the one bending over and taking it up the ass to defend a politician,..”

                    Right. You’re the one doing way worse in the hopes that fucking losers like you will feel better about that hag having her hat handed to her.
                    Pathetic.

                  2. “I’m not the one bending over and taking it up the ass to defend a politician”

                    Obama disagrees.

                  3. “”This is for all of you: I’m not the one bending over and taking it up the ass to defend a politician””

                    Poor Tony. He can’t comprehend that most of us are not defending a politician, but defending the fair application of the rule of law.

          2. Yeah, Socialists tend to know that without keeping guns on others, their system will collpase.

        2. “NK will not give up its nuclear program because it has absolutely no incentive to. I’d like to be proved wrong, but it’s not like Trump spend months and years preparing for such a thing.”

          —-Tony

          For the rest of you, I also think it’s important to remember that the nuclear disarmament in North Korea may be closely tied to Trump’s trade dispute with China.

          North Korea’s incentive to denuclearize is also associated with China’s incentive for North Korea to denuclearize. Assuming that China isn’t throwing this in as a factor in Trump’s trade negotiations with China is probably unreasonable.

          Trump’s decision to suspend tariffs on China’s exports to the U.S., which were set to increase on March 1st, coincided with the announcement that there would be another summit between Trump and Kim.

          If those talks don’t go well, watch to see if the stock market reacts with the assumption that it means those March 1st tariffs are back on again.

          1. +1000

    2. +1

      Any American who doesn’t want Trump to be wildly successful in getting North Korea to denuclearize is a fucking retard.

      1. But if he succeeds, he’ll be emboldened, and then who knows what other good things he’ll accomplish for the wrong reasons.

        1. Gasp! What if tries to end more wars?!

      2. +100

  42. ” According to the president’s former lawyer, personal henchman and confirmed perjurer Michael Cohen”

    1. Did he forge the documents he provided?

      1. It’s a question of credibility, Tony.

        He lied about that when he had nothing to lose, but now that whether and how long he goes to prison is a function of singing along to whatever tune Mueller is playing, we can assume he’s telling the truth?

        If Tony stayed up all night trying to think of a better way to make prevailing attitudes in the Democratic party look stupid, he could hardly come up with anything better than coming here and writing the things he writes. He’s like an anti-intellectual agent provocateur.

        1. Cohen and his relation to the truth is about the same as Smollett. Tony believed that too though, just sayin, he is a moron.

          1. From the outside, the bubble you morons inhabit is truly a freakshow of pettiness and partisan cocksucking. Tell me what Smollett has to do with anything right now. Do it.

            1. Nothing it was an analogy. You are consistent on one thing. Being as dumb as shit.

            2. “” the bubble you morons inhabit is truly a freakshow of pettiness and partisan cocksucking.””

              I have to ask. Did this statement originate while you were looking in the mirror?

        2. I’m just watching the trainwreck as it’s happening. You’re the one twisting your spine in order to avoid seeing reality. Are the documents forged or not?

          1. So dipshit is this the final straw. I mean is Trump done now. And you accuse folks of being in a bubble?

          2. “I’m just watching the trainwreck as it’s happening….”

            Yeah, they really got him THIS time!

          3. The thing is Tony, real or fake they’re a nothingburger. And you’re swallowing it and telling yourself it’s delicious.

  43. Wow, what a circus. Cummings is the dumbest chairman of a committee ever. So what is this about? Discussing a lot of stuff that is not illegal.

    Doing business in Russia while campaigning, not a crime, he was a private citizen a the time.

    Happy to hear Hilary is going to get embarrassed by her emails, not a crime, I was happy too

    My favorite “name a black ruled country that is not a s-hole” , well can you?

  44. White House bans four journalists from covering Trump-Kim dinner because of shouted questions

    Reporters from the Associated Press, Bloomberg News, the Los Angeles Times and Reuters were excluded from covering the dinner because of what White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said were “sensitivities over shouted questions in the previous sprays.” Among the questions asked of Trump was one about the congressional testimony of his former lawyer Michael Cohen.

    1. Well yes when meeting with a foreign leader its always appropriate to ask that question. LOL

  45. Pakistan shoots down 2 Indian warplanes, parades captured pilot on video

    Of course, two nuclear powers bombing each other is not nearly as important to the media as Cohen nuthingburger testimony.

    1. Nothing is that important. If you don’t believe me ask Tony. Did they “get” Trump yet?

      1. Trump is soooo got! This will be the final nail!

    2. I’m sure it will be Trumps fault somehow?

  46. The U.S. House of Representatives voted to overturn Trump’s national emergency declaration. It now must clear the Senate.

    No, it must now go for another vote in the House to try to get to a 2/3 majority.

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