CBD

Thanks to New York City Health Officials, New Yorkers Can No Longer Get CBD in Their Coffee

After cracking down on sugar, salt, and trans fats, the agency's turn against CBD is hardly unexpected.

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Last week New York City's health department, long the bane of food freedom supporters, banned city restaurants from adding cannabidiol—a compound found in both cannabis and hemp that's commonly known as "CBD"—as an ingredient in food or drinks they sell.

CBD products, purported to offer health benefits to consumers, also offer quite a premium for sellers. A coffee at Bushwick's Caffeine Underground costs $2.50. A CBD-infused coffee—presumably the same coffee with a couple drops of CBD added—will set you back $6.00.

New York City Council Speaker Corey Johnson (who is also a potential mayoral candidate) blasted the health department's move this week, saying it "doesn't make any sense."

I agree with Johnson. But considering the health department's long track record of targeting food ingredients—including sugar, salt, and trans fats—the agency's latest turn against CBD is hardly unexpected. Neither is it unique. It follows a similar crackdown last month by Maine's state health department. Other locales, including Detroit, have since jumped on the bandwagon.

But is there any merit to the move? The risks of ingesting CBD, if any, are somewhere between unclear and unconfirmed. Its benefits are better known. As New York City's health department noted last year, CBD "has medical benefits but is not psychoactive." (While that last claim is not entirely true, it is that true that CBD does not have the same "high" as THC, the most prominent active ingredient in marijuana.)

But in announcing the ban last week, the agency took a much less sanguine view.

"Until cannabidiol (CBD) is deemed safe as a food additive, the Department is ordering restaurants not to offer products containing CBD," the DOHMH said in a statement reported by the New York Post. The paper reports the health department will begin fining restaurants up to $650 for unapproved CBD food sales, starting in July.

But New York City health inspectors aren't waiting until the summer to launch their crackdown. Last week, health inspectors visited Fat Cat Kitchen and ordered them to stop selling cookies and other foods containing CBD. Eater reports the health department sealed hundreds of dollars worth of pastries in bags affixed with a label declaring it "unlawful to move or disturb" the baked goods.

While city health inspectors are busy quarantining cookies, CBD continues to make its way into all sorts of legal foods and drinks around the country. In only a matter of months, the Seattle Times notes, CBD has gone from niche substance to popular remedy: "from being a fidget spinner alternative for stoners to a mainstream panacea." The same media that treated CBDs as a newfangled curiosity as recently as 2016 now wonder whether there's just too much CBD in our lives.

A key element of media and government skepticism of CBDs stems from claims about their seemingly miraculous curative powers. Health websites regularly tout CBD as a marvel substance that can aid everything from digestion to pain relief and cancer prevention. Critics argue that CBD proponents claim falsely the cannabis derivative "cures everything."

Indeed, CBD proponents have become something like the new Paleo or vegan diet evangelists. Like many of the most vocal adherents of those diets, CBD fanatics have been mocked for claiming that CBD products can cure any and every malady—up to and including rigor mortis.

CBD's "explosive popularity as a hot new luxury self-care product rests on shaky ground," Mike Riggs cautioned this month. "And it's not clear how many consumers (or sellers) have a clue what they're doing."

Despite the moves by New York City, Maine, and Detroit, the popularity of legal CBD-infused foods is only gaining elsewhere, including Kansas City and Philadelphia. The owners of Root Café, a restaurant located just outside of Philadelphia that offers CBD-infused honey to diners, have organized a five-course tasting menu for a CBD-themed dinner later this month. The event menu includes elk meatballs with tortellini in a CBD green chili broth.

I'm neither a CBD proponent nor a detractor. I've used a 1:1 CBD/THC topical ointment for occasional minor aches and pains for the past couple years. I found it doesn't work as well for me as does a more commonly available cream (e.g., Icy Hot). My local grocer in Seattle, New Seasons, offers CBD oil add-ons at their coffee bar. I've partaken and been pleased with the drink, though I can't say for sure if my subsequent elevated mood was due to the very good Stumptown coffee, the added CBD infusion, or the combination.

Pressure to rein in CBD in New York and elsewhere likely stems from the federal government's stance. Last year, the agency announced it would crack down on health claims made by manufacturers whose food products contain CBD. In a statement, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said the agency is "concerned at the number of drug claims being made about products not approved by the FDA that claim to contain CBD or other cannabis-derived compounds." He also declared that the FDA prohibits the sale of foods it regulates if those foods contain CBD. New York City's health department appears simply to be following the FDA's lead.

If the FDA, Maine regulators, or New York City health department officials who are wary of CBD in the food supply want to help consumers, they can. They could target any clearly fraudulent health claims made by CBD sellers, for example, and consider taking action should any food or drink containing CBD harm a consumer. Otherwise, though, federal, state, and local officials should ensure that people who want to eat and drink foods that contain CBD have the freedom to do so.

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  2. More bad economic news.

    There’s a Weak Link in the Global Economy

    Paul Krugman said the hacked election of 2016 would cause a global recession with no end in sight. Everything is proceeding as he foretold.

    #DrumpfRecession
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    1. Even more bad news.

      Payless to Liquidate U.S. Stores, Wind Down Online Operations

      Heavily indebted store chains have been going under for two years, claiming once-iconic names like Toys “R” Us. Retailers including Shopko, FullBeauty Brands, Charlotte Russe, Things Remembered and Gymboree have filed for bankruptcy this year.

      It’s no coincidence this economic devastation started two years ago. That’s when a Russian intelligence asset became President and immediately began sabotaging the Obama economy ? which was the strongest economy this country ever had.

      1. I don’t know how trumplings seem to will themselves blind to this. With this century’s advances in technology businesses should be doing better than ever!

        1. Amazon certainly is doing better. And they are putting these brick and mortar places that cannot adapt out of business.

        2. Trumplings? Shouldn’t you be excited that businesses are closing? Less corporations! The government will provide our shoes. We had to many options!

      2. Toys “R” Us went out of business because they had $5Billion of self inflicted debt. Shopko is restructuring. Things Remembered, Gymboree and Charlotte Russe can’t compete with online stores. FullBeauty Brands racked up over a billion dollars in debt with no way to pay it. Payless, filed chapter 11 bankruptcy in April of 2017. Logic dictates that Trump was not able to destroy a 63 year old company in the first 3 months of his presidency! The reason Payless is going out of business in America is quite literally stated in the article YOU chose to link. “The company struggled to manage debt taken on in a 2012 leveraged buyout by Golden Gate Capital and Blum Capital Partners, filing for bankruptcy protection in April 2017.”
        By all means blame Trump for the things he’s worthy of being blamed for, WHICH IS A LOT, but don’t push blame off on him for things he has nothing to do with. It waters down all of your arguments and gives him power.
        Obama did NOT have the strongest economy this country has ever seen. That is attributed to the post WWII era, even if Trump likes to claim it for himself or you like to claim it for Obama. American companies and consumers often have more control over the economy than the government. Obama inherited a recessive economy that really had nowhere to go but up.
        Your above claims are reminiscent of Hannity’s rhetoric. You can do better than that. We can all do better than that!

        1. Trump is also responsible for the 30% increase in my 401k.

        2. “Logic dictates that Trump was not able to destroy a 63 year old company in the first 3 months of his presidency!”

          WTF does logic have to do with political arguments?

          1. Maybe you don’t understand the meaning of the word logic? It means that we can all reasonably assess that Trump had nothing to do with a company failing that was failing long before he became president. It was failing because of its inability to manage debt. Maybe you are just a troll?

            1. Maybe you don’t understand the meaning of the word sarcasm?

              1. In my defense there are a lot of Trumpers out there that would have made that comment in earnest. My apologies, I now see the sarcasm.

                1. Good point. Pro-Trump and anti-Trump zealots aren’t really capable of understanding concepts that require higher cognitive functions. Like sarcasm, humor, reasoning, thinking etc. They’re mostly limited to slogans and angry rants.

                  Those of us on the right side of the Bell Curve can only watch with frustrated impotence as they devolve our society into primitive factions of opinionated, ignorant ideologues.

        3. “Logic dictates that Trump was not able to destroy a 63 year old company in the first 3 months of his presidency!”

          WTF does logic have to do with political arguments?

          1. Ha! You posted twice you idiot.

        4. ATD, do you know you are responding to a parody account?

    2. If only we could have Net Neutrality so we could regulate the online retailers that are killing the store chains that can’t compete!

  3. American law recognized three types of things you might swallow. There are drugs, which are certified by the FDA to be safe and effective for treating or curing a medical condition. There is food, which is certified by the FDA to not kill you if you are bright enough to eat it properly. Finally, there are supplements, about which the FDA declares, “Fuck it; eat at your own risk if you trust the FTC to keep up with the biological research.”

    It should be legal to open up a supplement store in New York City that sells a mixture of CBD and hot water that has been infused with ground dried coffee beans.

    1. However, CBD for adding to foods is being classified by FDA as a food additive. In state & federal statute, foods are presumptively safe, food additives are presumptively unsafe. Since neither FDA nor the state Health Dept. has acknowledged CBD as GRAS, the city Health Dept. is treating it as an unsafe food additive. It would probably take an expensive privately sponsored testing & food additive petition process for CBD to be licensed as a food additive by FDA.

      To be considered a dietary supplement, CBD would have to avoid being considered as a “new dietary ingredient” by showing it’d been marketed in the USA as such pre-1992.

  4. The walls are closing in.

    Special counsel Robert Mueller interviewed Trump’s press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders

    Mueller will deliver his final report by the end of this year. It will prove once and for all Drumpf is a Russian intelligence asset who colluded with a hostile foreign power to win a hacked election.

    #TrumpRussia
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    1. He should interview the people who installed that new golf simulator. You know damn well it’s actually a secret method for Trump to get his orders from Putin.

      1. Mueller is very thorough so I’m sure that’s on his “to do” list. Remember, this is the biggest scandal in world history. All bases must be covered.

        1. Huck Finn is banned in Open Borders Librarian’s Library.

          1. Cuz Becky is actually a Russian honey pot?

            1. Because Becky is actually Bob – – – –

    2. Mueller will deliver his final report by the end of this year.

      What’s the rush?

      1. 2019 is significant because (1) we now have a #BlueTsunami Congress and (2) Putin’s Puppet has served more than half a term as US President. If Mueller allows an intelligence asset of a hostile foreign power to serve 3 / 4 of a term, I might begin to suspect he (Mueller) is compromised by Russia as well.

        1. If Mueller allows an intelligence asset of a hostile foreign power to serve 3 / 4 of a term, I might begin to suspect he (Mueller) is compromised by Russia as well.

          *Or* that Mueller is just reeling in the *big* fish.

    3. I think they should wait until October 31st 2020.

    4. By then end of this year?

      What’s the rush?

    5. Trump will be impeached, and Pence will become President.

      And ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ will finally become reality. Jesus wins!

  5. OT:

    Newsom has Trump shaking in his boots!

    “Gavin Newsom says California plans to sue Donald Trump over national emergency declaration”
    […]
    “California plans to sue over President Donald Trump’s decision to declare a national emergency at the Mexico border, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Friday.
    If filed, the lawsuit would mark the state’s 46th legal challenge to Trump administration policies. This time, Newsom said, the state intends to contest Trump’s use of executive power for what the governor calls a manufactured crisis at the border.”
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics
    -government/capitol-alert/
    article226333740.html#storylink=cpy

    The other 45 are as successful as Mueller’s fishing expedition.

    1. The Wile E. Coyote of governors.

    2. California doesn’t have standing in this issue. Not that that will prevent the 9th circuit from entertaining it and ruling in California’s favor, until the supreme court ultimately declares that the courts have no business ruling on this issue at all.

  6. Coffee is legal in NYC? Something must be done! For the children! What if some child gets ahold of their parents coffee and gets hopped up on caffeine and jumps out the window or goes on a rampage?

    1. Indeed, why does anyone *need* caffeine?

      1. Time for common sense coffee law.

        1. Now what say you and I go toe-to-toe on coffee-law and see how comes out the victor?

          1. Proof that caffeine use promotes violence!

          2. Hey, nobody needs a mug with a black handle that can hold more than 6 ounces.

        2. Common sense coffee control!

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  8. Today, government-approved food.

    Tomorrow, government food.

    1. The day after that, Soylent Green!

      1. Does every apartment come with such fine furniture?

    2. Is gov’t food something fed to gov’t? Or is it gov’t as food?

  9. Talk about the best part of waking up!

  10. I understand when people move to New York City because they work in certain industries. If you’re in finance, live theater, an artist, work at the port, fashion–there’s a good reason to be there. I understand when people go to New York City because they’re going to school. Columbia, NYU, Fordham, they’re great universities!

    I know that breaking family ties can be hard, especially for women with kids. They seem to always gravitate to be somewhere close to their parents, sisters, and other family.

    I don’t understand why people without those ties and more than $350,000 of equity in their homes stay in New York City.

  11. Is it a lack of imagination?

    My brother worked on Wall Street for a long time. He says that after a few years, you forget that you’re paying through the nose to live in a shit hole. It was hard for my folks who’d grown up and lived in Virginia, Maryland, and Washington DC to imagine what California was really like before they went there themselves, but that was a long time ago–and there’s a lot more places to move than California to start a new life these days. And we have HGTV now. Do people not see what you can get for $150,000 in Mississippi and Waco? I don’t understand why a plumber, a carpenter, an electrician, or a truck driver would choose to stay in New York City. It’s like trying to understand an economic model of gambling–when the best interests of gamblers is to cash in their chips and leave.

    There is culture and restaurants and art centers and hipsters in Greenville, South Carolina, Asheville, North Carolina, Bentonville, Arkansas, and Austin, Texas. And you can watch the Yankees live through a subscription from anywhere in the country! The country’s best Shakespeare festival is in Oregon. Utah and Idaho are both incredible.

    And we haven’t even started talking about the weather, taxes, regulation, crime, . . .

    1. California has an unmatched geographic variety. You can get from beaches to snow in 3-4 hours; or to put it another way, when there’s snow in the mountains, you can go home to get away from it too. Redwood forests, deserts, the delta, placid rivers and rafting rivers, farmland, rolling hills, steep mountains and canyons.

      You can get all those elsewhere, but not in the same proximity.

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        There’s a whole lot of ruin in the state and SF in particular, and try as they might, the proggies have yet to deliver it all.

    2. Hell, Bentonville is a really, REALLY nice town. The Waltons have done some work on that place.

      I don’t get the appeal of NYC, Chicago, LA, or SF. Pay through the nose for shit services so you can say “Look where I live”

      1. so you can say “Look where I live”

        There might be other appealing reasons to live in those cities.

    3. California is a terrible state to move to. So please. Don’t anybody move here.

      1. My sister is moving to California in April. Los Angeles, even.

        I’ll see how she likes it. It’s a work related move, she is a veterinary surgeon. She was making enough at her previous location, but she was also stressed out because her local vet hospital was frequently understaffed and underequipped. She’s going somewhere that has actual techs and also won’t require her to cover ER shifts at short notice.

      2. I live in Cali. I am moving out of the state. It is a shit hole unless you are a billionaire with a wall around your property.

        1. As recently as the ’90s, I could rent a one bedroom apartment in Hermosa Beach for $450 a month that was half a block from the beach. Circa 2000, I was paying $650 a month for a one room bungalow cottage on Catalina Ave in Redondo, again, about a half a block from the beach. That was in LA!

          There really aren’t any great areas for people of average means to live in SoCal anymore, but one of the reasons people used to come in the ’70s and ’80s was because there was so much in the way of affordable housing. Still lots of other places to go for that now.

          Why work for above average pay in a place where the median house price is $548,100 (California) when you can live in place where the median home price is $200,000? Especially if you’re looking to live in something that like a KB Home development in Santa Clarita, the new homes where the median home price is $200,000 are pretty much the same! It’s the taxes and land prices that are different.

          The median price for a home in New York City is $680,000, and it’s the size of postage stamp. And, unlike in SoCal, the weather is terrible. Anybody who’s working a standard job in NYC, I hope you’re happy! You might be just as happy making 20% less in a place where homes cost one-third the price, and the taxes are dramatically lower.

    4. And most of those places have better strip clubs.

  12. If caffeine was discovered today and came in a white powder form, would it be illegal? Maybe we need to shut down Starbucks for health reasons.

    1. If gasoline were discovered today, we’d be riding horses for the foreseeable future.

    2. Caffeine came this close to being controlled a century ago.

  13. OT the Smollet mystery deepens.
    http://tinyurl.com/y68kaj2x

    1. Gateway Pundit is not a legitimate news source.

      I will continue to believe the tragic events transpired exactly as Mr. Smollet described them.

      #IBelieveJussie

        1. OK, at least CNN didn’t bother with a bunch of caveats. I wonder how it’ll be handled by, oh, WaPo, MSNBC, NYT, etc.

          1. What story?

            1. Probably like that.
              The Chron had zero on the matter today after the stink started rising yesterday.

    2. Cosplay gone bad?

      1. His Secret fantasy.

        1. Smollet is a fool. But not for staging a fake anti-Trump hate crime, he is a fool because getting caught staging a fake Anti-Trump hate crime is how you get more Trump.

          Trump may be an idiot, but he has the advantage of his opponents being bigger idiots.

  14. NY Times — After winning the fight for a $15 minimum wage, fast food workers are now battling being fired without “just cause”

    Francis Gomez, 26, said she was fired without warning from a Taco Bell in Queens after she swore at a delivery driver who was harassing her.

    A bill to be introduced to the New York City Council would require employers to provide a justifiable cause to fire fast food workers.

    1. require employers to provide a justifiable cause to fire fast food workers.

      “Can’t afford to pay them.”

    2. Sounds like they were saving her from being harassed

  15. Wow, this sounds just like New York City. I guess they literally just never think of businesses like these as being owned by someone who gets to hire or fire whoever he wants.

    Really, this is related to the idea of compulsory cakes. Liberals absolutely cannot seem to grasp the fact that a business owner’s business is his property. A business owner can decide what to do with his business, who to hire, who to fire, who to do business with, who to not do business with, and basically any other decision that he wants.

    What is really sad is when people have to make excuses for their “discrimination.” In this case for example, the employer shouldn’t have to stoop to the level of saying, “cant afford to pay them.” He should be able to fire someone for literally no reason at all or even for racially motivated reasons.

    1. “…Liberals absolutely cannot seem to grasp the fact that a business owner’s business is his property….”

      We just had a Harvard constitutional professor as POTUS who famously said: “You didn’t build that!”.
      You must keep in mind that (AFAIK) the man never held a job where you had to earn money from serving customers; his entire life has been spent deriving his livelihood (and by now, considerable wealth) from money coerced from the taxpayers.
      Perhaps I’m wrong. Perhaps he delivered papers in his youth, but regardless, the planning, efforts and risks of actually running a business were totally outside his experience, and as a result, he was (to be kind) an ignoramus concerning the issues.
      We can best respond to his comments with one of our own: Fuck you, you scumbag liar, with Tony’s dick.

    2. They think of a job as something like a marriage w/o no-fault divorce on the employer’s part, but allow a unilateral divorce on the employee’s part. You “earned” a job, now you “own” it.

    3. You didn’t build that

  16. I am guessing that these CBD restrictions have more to do with BigPharma looking to patent the stuff. They can’t bill your insurance for $1000 for a months prescription for something you might pay an extra couple of bucks to have added to your coffee. Pharma also gives tons of money to the fda and local health departments, so they demand a return on their investment…

    1. That’s not quite how it works.

      Nobody can patent the substance, it’s in the public domain. But there are use patents for Epidiolex, a specific prescription product that contains CBD oil, but that is limited to use for the treatment of specific seizure disorders.

      Which means that so long as the patent remains in effect nobody else can market (FDA approval of a drug product is all about how a product can be marketed) a CBD product for the treatment of those named condition. Doctors can prescribe/recommend other products containing CBD, and/or people can use other CBD products, it’s just going to be off-label.

      So, this effectively means the owners of that patent have locked up the prescription insurance business for that condition. Which is a situation, I suspect, they are quite happy with, as it means high dollar volume business with limited levels of liability.

      1. https://preview.tinyurl.com/yywge9fa

        Anything not listed (e.g. migraines, chronic pain, PTSD, etc.) there is not granted the exclusivity protection.

    2. Not likely to have anything to do w this NYC rule, because it doesn’t affect CBD’s being sold plain, which is how people would probably use it drugwise, only as a food additive or mixed in food.

  17. “I am guessing that these CBD restrictions have more to do with BigPharma looking to patent the stuff.”

    I am guessing sarc or your tin-foil had needs calibration.

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  25. The health benefit or deficit in getting a coffee for $2.50 or a coffee with CBD for $6.00 is unknown or negligible?
    Ask your wallet about its health.

    1. “The health benefit or deficit in getting a coffee for $2.50 or a coffee with CBD for $6.00 is unknown or negligible?
      Ask your wallet about its health.”

      Uh, did you have a point, or just a random waste or bandwidth?

      1. I think his point was that, if you want CBD in your coffee, it is probably more economical to buy a bottle and add it to your coffee yourself.

        Personally, given that CBD products are the commercial Wild West I’m skeptical that whatever anyone says is CBD actually contains any cannabinoids whatsoever.

  26. The same thing is happening in Michigan–it made the front page of the Free Press this morning. Since the Feds haven’t approved it they won’t permit it to be added to cocktails (a few bars in Detroit were experimenting with it, to great reviews). They’ll do anything to keep cannabis products illegal, even if Michigan just voted to allow recreational pot. And the paper predicts it’ll be years till it’s legal.

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