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Like the Rest of Us, Jeff Flake Is Frustrated and Confused About the Kavanaugh Confirmation Process

Unlike most of us, he's in a position to do something about it.

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Sen. Jeff Flake (R–Ariz.) is earning the ire of partisans on both the right and the left for remarks he made on the Senate floor Wednesday afternoon. Flake blasted his fellow senators and President Donald Trump for the handling of Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation process, but also declined to take a firm position on any of the increasingly fraught questions swirling around the Supreme Court nominee.

Some of that criticism is warranted. After all, Flake is one of only 100 people in America with the power to approve or block Kavanaugh's nomination. Even that calculation understates Flake's potential influence over the outcome of this process: given the current hyper-partisan environment and the narrow 51-49 Republican majority in the Senate, Flake is a swing vote in both the crucial Senate Judiciary Committee and the chamber as a whole.

But it's also difficult not to sympathize with Flake's assessment of the situation. He is retiring at the end of the current term, and therefore has little to gain from playing politics or trying to appear above the partisan fray. He's free to be the voice of the people—or perhaps the Senate's conscience, if you prefer—and the vox populi is frustrated, confused, and a little angry.

Flake said he's unwilling to believe that Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Kavanaugh of attempted to rape her at a high school party in 1983, is "is part of some kind of vast conspiracy from start to finish to smear Judge Kavanaugh," but that she should be heard (and she will be, Thursday, by the Senate Judiciary Committee). Flake also said that he refuses to believe that her claims of sexual assault are invalid because she did not report the assault immediately after it happened—something Trump tweeted earlier this week.

"How uninformed and uncaring do you have to be to say things like that, much less believe them?" asked Flake. "Do we have any idea what kind of message that sends, especially to young women? How many times do we have to marginalize and ignore women before we learn that important lesson?"

On the other hand, Flake said he does not believe that Kavanaugh "is some kind of serial sexual predator, as has been alleged by some on the left." (Flake did not comment on the most recent allegations against Kavanaugh, and told a reporter that he did not have time to review those new allegations before his floor speech Wednesday)

Flake lamented that tather than trying to get to the truth, both sides have rushed to strip both Kavanaugh and Ford of their humanity, turning both into "grotesque caricatures" of who they really are.

"We think that our ideological struggle is more important than their humanity," he said, "because we are so practiced at dehumanizing people that we have also dehumanized ourselves."

Flake's assessment of the circus that surrounds Kavanaugh's confirmation process seems pretty reasonable. Even by modern political standards, and even with the ideological composition of the Supreme Court hanging in the balance, the vitriol shown by both right and left in the past two weeks has been stunning.

There has been almost no consideration of whether Kavanaugh would make a good justice; no consideration of his judicial record or his legal views. His confirmation now seems to hinge on whether you believe Ford's accusations (and now the accusations brought by two other women) or Kavanaugh's denials—and "believe" is indeed the right word here, because the frustrating lack of concrete evidence has turned that question into an article of partisan faith.

It's also right, I think, to feel disappointed that Flake did not take the opportunity to change the process he's decrying, or even attempt to do so.

He need not take a position on Kavanaugh's nomination—indeed, he's right to say he wants to hear the testimony of both Ford and Kavanaugh with an open mind on Thursday—but he could have said that he would not support the decision to vote on Kavanaugh as soon as Friday. He could have said he wanted additional time to allow Kavanaugh's other accusers to come forward and have their claims properly vetted.

It is unlikely that Thursday's hearing will definitively prove Ford or Kavanagh to be a liar. And the Supreme Court confirmation process is a political process, not a court of law where due process matters and accusations must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Together, those two facts leave all of us with another frustrating reality: there's likely no outcome of the Kavanaugh confirmation process that will be accepted as the "right" one.

"However this vote goes, I'm confident in saying that it will forever be steeped in doubt," Flake said. "This doubt is the only thing of which I am confident."

The burden of sorting all this out falls to Flake and his fellow senators. It is important to call out the "toxic political culture" that's only been worsened by the past two weeks of Kavanaugh drama, as Flake did Wednesday. What he does on Thursday and Friday will matter even more.

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  1. . “Do we have any idea what kind of message that sends, especially to young women? How many times do we have to marginalize and ignore women before we learn that important lesson?”

    Leaving other women to be raped by your attacker is evil. No nicer word for it. If she watched somebody murder somebody, would he pat her head for not mentioning it for over 30 years?

    BTW, did he see her polygraph? It’s hilarious. Never seen a handwritten note (with corrections from…whenever) used with the questions basically being “Did you lie in what you wrote”?

    He need not take a position on Kavanaugh’s nomination?indeed, he’s right to say he wants to hear the testimony of both Ford and Kavanaugh with an open mind on Thursday?but he could have said that he would not support the decision to vote on Kavanaugh as soon as Friday. He could have said he wanted additional time to allow Kavanaugh’s other accusers to come forward and have their claims properly vetted.

    We have hearsay girl and an adult hanging out with high school kids and watching girls allegedly get raped by people while Kavanaugh was somewhere in the vicinity…we think.

    But, yes, Reason — we always need to do what Democrats want. That is the only way.

    1. Republicans need no Democratic assistance or cooperation to place Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.

      Republicans should do as they wish, just as I am developing an increasing sense that Democrats will do as they wish when they control the White House and Congress.

      Carry on, clingers. Use all of your powers to build that cranky old superstitious rural white male coalition as high as it will go, and ride it so long as you can. Your betters will see you further on up the road.

      1. Fuck you Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland.

        Charlatan.

      2. I think I speak for all of us when I say that your schtick bores the shit out of me.

      3. This entire business currently is a senate committee hearing to confirm Brett Kavanagh for SCOTUS justice which Dr. Ford has interjected herself into at very late date to be heard at all. She is simply a witness in opposition to his confirmation. In her opening she claims she lied by omission to her own parents because she knew that they would never have approved of her attending such a gathering to begin with. By her own testimony she claims she lied to her own parents from day one. As she brings no tangible evidence with her to substantiate the epiphany she had in 2012 she will be heard. This is still part of the Brett Kavanaugh hearing not Ford’s. The question of does she lie has been answered. SHE LIES!

  2. Jeff Flake has shown everyone what he is, which is “for sale” and he knows it. It’s why he didn’t even bother running, he knew everyone hates him.

    1. Angry, confused, conspiracy-minded right-wing bigots are among my favorite faux libertarians.

      1. Remember when your favorite senator voted in favor of the budget and the reauthorization of data collection without blinking an eye?

        Guys really principled. He just has profoundly shitty principles

      2. Keep your sex life to yourself please.

      3. While helpless prepubescent boys and farm animals are your farm animals.

        When is Reason goomg to get a Block feature so I can stop seeing this child rapist and bestiality aficionado?

  3. Who’s confused? It’s all pretty easy to figure out at this point.

    1. Yep. The answer is that Jeff Flake is the real victim here. Poor little fella.

  4. Flake is a flake, that’s why his name will soon vanish from politics. We hope.

    1. Everyone in DC needs to be voted out.

      1. Unless there is a true libertarian running (by that I mean someone running only as a Libertarian, not someone running as Republican, Constitution Party, Libertarian party etc,) I vote for whom ever is NOT the incumbent. It’s really hard to do at times, especially when I know their bum is worse than the current bum… but I see a purge as the only way to send the message that we don’t like what any of you are doing. Maybe if every seat ends up flipping to the other party every time it comes up for a vote they might start paying attention.

  5. The worst part about this entire exercise is the unwillingness of people to call an obvious hit job an obvious hit job. Spineless sniveling cowards like Bloehm need to stop swallowing the narrative and grow a pair.

  6. >>>Like the rest of us

    Flake may be like you…

  7. He’s a swing vote. Kavanaugh supporters should butter him up, give him his chance to maverick himself up for the cameras.

    “Gosh, Jeff, we’re so lucky to have an impartial, transpartisan person like you to watch benevolently over this process. You’re going to be such a loss to the Senate! Now, I hope you will take some time to consider how voting against Kavanaugh will encourage these things you’re so rightly concerned about!”

    He’ll only be around a few more months, they can put up with him that long to cultivate his vote.

    1. Reserve the insults for *after* his term is up.

      “We thought he’d *never* leave, that sanctimonious so-and-so!”

    2. And on his last day in the senate, they can catch up with him in the congressional parking lot and beat him up.

  8. Flake’s struggling with this vote. Not with passing that massive budget, because he was a yes on that. Not with reauthorizing the data collection program because he’s fine with that. The administration’s starvation of Yemen isn’t a concern for him either, because that’s cool.

    But on this vote he’s struggling, because his highest priority is the virtue signal. And his audition for MSNBC is being televised.

    I understand why Reason loves the big spending, big government Senator Flake, because like them he prioritizes principal over principles.

    1. The bizarre thing to me is that Reason doesn’t extoll Ted Cruz by now. I mean, Flake betrayed the voters and here he’s held up as the adult in the room. Why not Cruz, they vote the same way.

      1. Cause Cruz talks like an Authoritarian religious zealot as well as voting like one. Flake talks a good talk…. then hopes you don’t notice how he’s voting does not match what he’s saying.

        1. Have one citation on Cruz being a zealot, or is that just your truth?

    2. Boom! Nailed it!

    1. Well said.

  9. Just the Dems channeling their inner McCarthy and Stalin, is all…

    1. Joe McCarthy was nothing like this. He was an American hero. Had he persisted, none of this shit would be happening now, as the congressional democrats are exactly the kind of people that he hunted and exposed as traitors.

      1. You really are the Last of the Shitferfbrains.

        1. The Authoritarian Right.
          Like Stalinists but even more self-righteous.
          Like Trump, actually.

    2. You realize that, once we got a look at the KGB archives after the USSR fell, it turned out that McCarthy was actually right, and the federal government really WAS lousy with Communist moles working for the USSR, some of them quite high up?

      He was destroyed for embarrassing an administration that didn’t want to do anything about it, not for leading a witch hunt.

  10. “However this vote goes, I’m confident in saying that it will forever be steeped in doubt,” Flake said. “This doubt is the only thing of which I am confident.”

    And that’s all that matters. I have no idea who the next SCOTUS nominee will be, but I’m can tell you right now that he or she once raped a kitten – I saw it with my own eyes.

    1. Well you must have missed the part where it was killed in the process.

  11. “Flake also said that he refuses to believe that her claims of sexual assault are invalid because she did not report the assault immediately after it happened?something Trump tweeted earlier this week.

    How uninformed and uncaring do you have to be to say things like that, much less believe them?” asked Flake. “Do we have any idea what kind of message that sends, especially to young women? How many times do we have to marginalize and ignore women before we learn that important lesson?”

    Her claims were made thirty years after the assault supposedly happened. She has very little few details of the time and location and the people she named who could corroborate her story cannot. There are very few facts to back up her allegations including what she did at the time to rationally evaluate them in her favor. Flake’s reaction here is pure emotionalism. If you think that what she has accused him of is disqualifying, you still have to accept or discount the evidence. You have to decide to ignore her claims as unproven and perhaps unprovable or hold a man accountable for a crime he may not have committed.

    1. I’m old enough to remember when libertarians believed in due process, the statute of limitations and the concept of laches… Not to mention the concept of not stigmatizing people for life over things they did as teenagers.

      1. You’re 11 years old? For some reason this site took a turn in 2009. They tried to keep hold of old vestiges occasionally but since two years ago the disguise is off.

    2. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of uncertainty? I know it’s real unpopular on the TV/interwebs these days, but it’s important. To put it in partisan terms: saying “pure emotionalism” and making it binary puts you in the same group as the morons who called Nate Silver wrong when he set the odds of Hillary winning above 50%.

      1. Uncertainty about what? Any unsubstantiated claim that anyone may care to make?

  12. “Flake also said that he refuses to believe that her claims of sexual assault are invalid because she did not report the assault immediately after it happened?something Trump tweeted earlier this week.

    How uninformed and uncaring do you have to be to say things like that, much less believe them?” asked Flake. “Do we have any idea what kind of message that sends, especially to young women? How many times do we have to marginalize and ignore women before we learn that important lesson?”

    Her claims were made thirty years after the assault supposedly happened. She has very little few details of the time and location and the people she named who could corroborate her story cannot. There are very few facts to back up her allegations including what she did at the time to rationally evaluate them in her favor. Flake’s reaction here is pure emotionalism. If you think that what she has accused him of is disqualifying, you still have to accept or discount the evidence. You have to decide to ignore her claims as unproven and perhaps unprovable or hold a man accountable for a crime he may not have committed.

  13. “Flake also said that he refuses to believe that her claims of sexual assault are invalid because she did not report the assault immediately after it happened?something Trump tweeted earlier this week.

    How uninformed and uncaring do you have to be to say things like that, much less believe them?” asked Flake. “Do we have any idea what kind of message that sends, especially to young women? How many times do we have to marginalize and ignore women before we learn that important lesson?”

    Her claims were made thirty years after the assault supposedly happened. She has very little few details of the time and location and the people she named who could corroborate her story cannot. There are very few facts to back up her allegations including what she did at the time to rationally evaluate them in her favor. Flake’s reaction here is pure emotionalism. If you think that what she has accused him of is disqualifying, you still have to accept or discount the evidence. You have to decide to ignore her claims as unproven and perhaps unprovable or hold a man accountable for a crime he may not have committed.

    1. It goes both ways. How uninformed and uncaring do you have to believe to not listen to the protestations of an innocent man? It never fucking occurs to Flake that Kavanaugh might be entirely innocent.

      1. Yes, exactly.

        Flake wants to have it both ways, but the committee has to make a binary decision here, yea or nay. There is not a third way out. To do that you have to evaluate the evidence. How she acted at the time this allegedly happened is a pertinent fact to that evaluation especially with the paucity of supporting facts she offers. It is not insulting to women to evaluate the evidence of such accusations. Flake is being emotional and condescending to women to suggest otherwise.

  14. Flake is too busy getting his next 14 year old sister wife .Fuck him and all the other Mormon strange underwear wearing cock suckers .

    1. Boxers and a t shirt… So god dn strange. You have weird bigotry.

  15. My God Flake is a moron. The fact that she didn’t report it then does not make her accusation necessarily untrue. That is true. But, it does make it impossible to ever be certain enough to hold it against Kavanaugh. It also makes it less likely it is true in the first place.

    What message are we sending to women? That when something bad happens to you report it and don’t wait 35 years after it is too late to do something about it. I fail to see how that is a bad message to send.

    And how exactly was the Senate and the evil Donald Trump supposed to handle this? They have offered Ford every opportunity to come and tell her story and she has refused and continued to put completely unreasonable conditions like only testifying after she has heard Kavanaugh on her testifying. What else can they do but offer her a chance to be heard?

    There is nothing confusing about this. This guy is being slandered and reason, a magazine that purports to care about truth and civil liberties is confused and doesn’t know how to stand up for the truth. It is pathetic. Flake is pathetic Eric Boehm is pathetic. You are a cowardly moron Eric. I hope you are proud of yourself.

    1. “They have offered Ford every opportunity to come and tell her story and she has refused and continued to put completely unreasonable conditions like only testifying after she has heard Kavanaugh on her testifying.”

      The expectation is that Kavanaugh has to rebut an accusation she has made under oath or fully fleshed out. Under any other situation but a moral panic that requirement should be laughed out of any formal inquiry.

      1. “… she has NOT made under oath or fully fleshed out.

    2. What if the truth is that Ford suffered the attack she claims, but it was Kav’s buddy who touched her, and Kav jumped on them, breaking it up? She’s wrong, he’s lying but innocent, or even a good guy (probably because he didn’t want to admit to being there and hoping to participate if semi-intoxicated consent was given). Still a good SCOTUS candidate?

  16. Someone’s not telling the truth. At some point he’s going to pick a side.

    1. The only side you need to pick is fair play, truth telling, and presumption of innocence.

  17. There has been almost no consideration of whether Kavanaugh would make a good justice; no consideration of his judicial record or his legal views.

    WTF? I distinctly remember Senators like Kamala Harris thoroughly examining his views on crucial issues like reproductive rights. I recall legal commenters like Jeffrey Toobin explaining what this country would look like if Kavanaugh got confirmed. Heck, I spent weeks on this very website urging everyone to oppose the nomination before I ever heard of Dr. Ford.

    In fact, it was way back on September 6 when Paul Krugman wrote this comprehensive analysis of Kavanaugh’s juridprudence, Kavanaugh Will Kill the Constitution.

  18. This will likely be a victory on the long term, as the growing majority of Americans sees. once again, both partisan tribes are comprised of goobers, assholes and liars … for “the cause”

    Mass movements do not need a god, but they do need a devil. Hatred unifies the True Believers.”
    -Eric Hoffer, “The True Believers” (1951)

    Throughout human history, the worst moral atrocities have been committed by those manipulated to BELIEVE they are defending some “greater good” — the Collective, the State, the Master Race, the Party or a God. Zealots and fanatics. The militant self-righteous.
    -“a libertarian” (1994)

    Amen

    1. Fuck off hihn.

  19. Jeff Flake has been planning to challenge Donald Trump for the Republican nomination in 2020.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/…..431870002/

    USA Today, March 2018

    1. He is delusional.

    2. The Donald could eat babies and still win the republican nomination in 2020 at this point. Literally eat babies.

      1. Yet another reason we haven’t really seen any real follow-through in the effort to defund his food supply!

      2. Because Republican primary voters are all sick, terrible people?

        1. Well that, and you idiots will put up another Hillary and try to pretend she isn’t a fucking monster.

        2. This is rich coming from a supporter of the party of abortion and infanticide.
          Why aren’t democrats endorsing eating babies anyway? Since they don’t think they’re human, why not eat an environmentally sustainable source of protein?

        3. Sick and terrible people according to YOU, still won.

    3. It’s the job of the Never Trumpers to pull enough votes away from the Republicans to ensure a permanent electoral majority for the Dems through the importation of big government voters.

  20. Ah I see the mask is finally fully off, Reason. Good for you. I hope they serve some real top-shelf booze at those cocktail parties; it should at least have been worth it.

    1. What took you so long? The mask has been off for quite a while now.

      1. Diego seems to come and go, and in fairness Reason has actually become worse. It was easier to miss during the Obama or Bush years one might suppose.

        1. Any cluster of people centered about d.c. is corrupted. Got to give Asimov credit for his properly described end of empires in The Foundation series.

  21. There has never been any doubt, and there will never be any doubt. True or false, the unprovable/undeniable allegations were coldly used by the Democratic party to continue their denial of the 2016 election results.
    The major abuse of Dr. Ford was done by Diane Feinstein, and that IS provable.

  22. “Do we have any idea what kind of message that sends, especially to young women?

    I’m pretty sure it says “report sex crimes to the police”. Maybe Flake will let us know why that’s a bad message.

  23. “We think that our ideological struggle is more important than their humanity,” he said, “because we are so practiced at dehumanizing people that we have also dehumanized ourselves.”

    Sheer poetry, Jeff.

    1. Pfft. Everyone knows politicians are lizard people.

  24. His confirmation now seems to hinge on whether you believe Ford’s accusations (and now the accusations brought by two other women) or Kavanaugh’s denials?and “believe” is indeed the right word here, because the frustrating lack of concrete evidence has turned that question into an article of partisan faith.

    In ye olde podcast, We the Fif… this was what was astutely referred to as “McGuffin Journalism” which is really around 95% of modern Journalism in my opinion.

    The narrative is the bad guys want this thing, the good guys want to keep the bad guys from getting it– who cares what the thing is or what it does… call it… “the orb of McGrogg” great, done. Now let’s focus on the gamesmanship between the good guys and the bad guys.


    1. …this was what was astutely referred to as “McGuffin Journalism” which is really around 95% of modern Journalism in my opinion.

      It’s always been that way, it’s just that it’s more obvious during certain years than others. Really, at the end of the day, it’s just more advocacy journalism and more selling what sells in terms of news. Journalists are just people that lie about their profit motive while selling you their own politics. Some outlets are more honest about that than others.

      Reason, for example, is actually worse in some regards as they claim to be in favor of things that they actively argue against in their own pages. The irony being that they are explicitly an advocacy rag that advocates the opposite of their own agenda.

      Maybe that’s not worse, maybe that’s just stupid.

  25. He could have said he wanted additional time to allow Kavanaugh’s other accusers to come forward and have their claims properly vetted.

    No he really shouldn’t have said that even though I agree with everything he DID say. He needs to grab his balls and make the difficult decision – yes or no.

    There IS a statute of limitations for very good reasons. And all those reasons also apply to winding up the mechanisms of the state to engage in fact-finding – which is precisely what a court DOES.

    The Goobers have certainly followed Trump down the path of shitting on women. And presumably they will pay a price. But that price will be a political price — NOT a legalistic price.

  26. His confirmation now seems to hinge on whether you believe Ford’s accusations (and now the accusations brought by two other women) or Kavanaugh’s denials and the denials of all of the other participants she claimed were there

    FTFY

    How quickly we forget that every single witness refutes what she claimed. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

    So, yes, it is up to you to believe an accusation with ZERO substantiation versus a denial CORROBORATED by the witnesses named BY THE ACCUSER.

    Reason is done. There is no pretense that they are anything more than a progressive rag in libertarian clothing.

    1. Is it that you think libertarianism should defend rape or Republicans?

      1. No, I think libertarianism should defend civil rights and not enforce your fascist state. When people ask how so many Germans could become Nazis, all they need to do is interview you, the modern, living example.

        1. There’s a civil right to be appointed to the supreme court?

          1. There’s a civil right to due process. But you’ve admitted that you don’t really care about civil rights. You believe in slavery. You don’t care about truth. You certainly don’t care about justice. All you care about is power, and you will do literally anything to get it. I don’t really understand how sociopaths like you come about, but clearly you do.

            You do serve one very valuable purpose though. The fact that jeffy doesn’t call out your naked power lust demolishes any claim he has to any principled stand.

      2. Nobody involved in this nomination was raped. And if they were, it doesn’t appear to have been by Judge K and he had no knowledge of anyone being raped.

  27. Serious replies only: If Kavaunaugh withdraws or the vote goes against him, how quickly can Trump and McConnell ramrod a replacement through during the next few weeks?

    1. “Serious replies only”

      OK, have fun waiting.

    2. Couple of months best case. But if you think that any Trump nominee won’t be revealed to be an openly practicing satanist, then you haven’t been paying attention. Tony is already adamantly opposed to XX’s far-right views.

    3. It goes to after the election. But if Brett goes down and Team Red holds the Senate, we get Justice Amy Coney Barret.

      1. Not necessarily. They always could have another vote on Kavanaugh.

        McConnell says there will be a vote next week, up or down. At this point, that is the right thing to do. Avenatti’s claims aren’t going anywhere for their want of internal consistency, and people are forgetting that Debbie Ramirez came forward only after there was an organized, Leftist effort at Yale to manufacture a claim using Amy Chua. That leaves Dr. Ford, and she’s going to have to provide significantly more details tomorrow before anyone honorably can rely upon her account. After that, it’s a question of what the records show, if they show anything, if they still exist. (But, apparently some do.)

        Finally, in response to Jeff Flake’s “humanity” speech, the obvious question: We have the entire adult record of the judge before us, including his opinions and his conduct over the last 35 years. In the absence of certain proof he sexually assaulted anyone, how drunk he once got in high school simply is not relevant. Feinstein, of course, can hold that against him with impunity, but senators like Joe Mancin or Claire McCaskill probably can’t. And, we’re going to have a vote, and they will have to explain their vote to the electorate during the next month.

        It’s as simple as that.

    4. It can be done in an hour. Trump nominates, McConnell says fuck Democrats and calls for a vote right after.

  28. A poll – and let’s face it, the whole point of this circus was always to get to the poll so that the pols can position themselves for the horserace – that shows how deeply DeRpy DeRps are.

    The Rpy DeRps support Kavanaugh (and anyone who will vote to confirm him) by 67% to 4%. The Demi DeRps oppose Kavanaugh by 67% to 6%. In both cases, 22% of them don’t think that issue will determine their vote or just don’t care. IOW the DeRps have the hamster in their teeth and now they just need to spend a lot of time ripping it to shreds so their base gets the raw flesh they need. And a great time will be had by all.

    Among independents – 27% favor – 33% oppose – and 36% don’t care. So they will be made to watch the DeRps rip the hamster to shreds until they do care. Or at least until the ads for the Nov election are ready to run.

    And this is gonna backfire on the Goobers cuz – the issue isn’t important for men of any educ level – but it is more important for women of all educ levels than it is even for registered DeRps even if right now they are split by educ level on what the outcome should be.

    1. And those numbers are pre-Brady Effect.

    2. As an aside – Gary Johnson really does need to come out re which way he’d vote in the Senate on Kavanaugh. The DeRps are defining the agendas but it’s gonna be one of the bigger issues for voters – ESP re a third-party that may be the swing vote.

      Get your freaking name in the NM papers on this GJ – NOW.

      1. Man looking at the news aggregators – this REALLY is the issue that GJ should be pounding on. Just being the adult in the room – the anti-DeRp – can get him a TON of voters who will be voting and who are looking for something different. If he gets lazy here, he’s gonna lose a ton of those voters who will either revert to DeRp or drop out and not vote. He’s got a one week window – max.

        Give them a reason to vote and to vote for you GJ!

  29. A Cosby sister victim whined today that she was denied the pleasure of seeing the cuffs snapped in place. She told NPR that soon now they would pass the ERA and accomplish other goals. Cosby has been declared a pathological offender, likely to offend again at 81 years old and blind.

    1. I have no respect for women who waited until over 10 years later to pursue criminal charges against cosby.

      The main accuser looked like a man.

  30. Flake said he’s unwilling to believe that Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Kavanaugh of attempted to rape her at a high school party in 1983, is “is part of some kind of vast conspiracy from start to finish to smear Judge Kavanaugh,”
    #####

    What a contemptible jackass. He attacks a straw man while morally preening. I’d have more respect for him if I thought he was a conscious sleazebag mouthing this inane drivel. That he believes it makes him a horrific, mentally deformed creature.

    The point of Ford’s allegation is that it requires no conspiracy at all. It’s a totally uncorroborated claim of one person that is so non-specific that it is unfalsifiable. “Some day, some place, bad things happened.” Unfalsifiable.

    To the extent that she said anything specific, they were names, and *everyone* named denies recognizing the scenario given as anything they were ever a part of.

    “unwilling to believe”

    Well, that’s certainly the right frame of mind for a search for the truth.

    Imbecile.

    1. Flake can’t have been in politics this long without knowing that conspiracies are literally the building blocks of politics.

  31. So his spine is as crooked as his face. He sucks, bye. This is asssssssinNINE. Don’t dox me, hackers but I’m a 40 yr old lady and this is suuuuch bull. And may I poi t out yet another old white male speaking for the feelings of young, vulnerable, oh so vulernable, women. This chick, just speak. Ya held tongue decades, then 2nths, then a week, then no. Just a few more days. Wtf ya think would happen. When ya interrupt sc? So out with it. Then the psycho copycats. Ya whaaaa??? Tens of parties, train, you sick fu…YOU do soemthing. And if ya didn’t then, too Frickin late. Ya weasel. With that thing representing. Argh! Just end it already. Give him a robe and clear the stairs nightly. With horses and hose. Until they just stay home and get a life. What losers have such time to yell in the streets. I was in hs when Bill was servived. Shudder. That’s why I didn’t want the old gag back in the oval. Not cuz my racist hus forbade it. And she coughed into her hand while dying of pneumonia….et al. But yea, not a big deal someone had an underage drunk awkward somewhat aggressive sexual experience with a 17 yr old male. Nooowhaaa??? Stfu. This is ridiculous times, kids. What’s gonna happen!?!?

  32. “He is retiring at the end of the current term, and therefore has little to gain from playing politics or trying to appear above the partisan fray. He’s free to be the voice of the people?or perhaps the Senate’s conscience, if you prefer?and the vox populi is frustrated, confused, and a little angry.”
    Or he has little reason to not be even more of a self-serving asshole. Or take some actions that set him up with an easy life with a hefty income stream. You give away your bias when you can only characterize things from a single perspective.

    1. He’s ingratiating himself with some real shitbags for his future career as a sellout lobbyist. He’s a real piece of shit.

  33. Flake has never shown himself tone anything other than a spineless, feckless, piece of crap. No reason for that to change now that he’s not worrying about reelection.

  34. “It is unlikely that Thursday’s hearing will definitively prove Ford or Kavanagh to be a liar.”

    No it won’t. And, neither will delaying the decision. If Flake himself, or other moderate voices, feels that more time needs to be devoted to this to reach a fair conclusion on the Judge’s suitability for the Supreme Court, they can always vote no or indicate that they intend to.

  35. Jeff Flake is a lefty piece of shit and his vote wont matter.

    Pence will break any tie and Lefties dont have enough votes to do anything but tie.

    1. “Jeff Flake is a lefty piece of shit.”

      So was Jeff Davis. Ain’t it a bitch when your favorite monsters go off the rez and display a little faux humanity?
      Fear not, young Skywalker, return to neanderthal form he will.

  36. I wonder how many people who are now saying that “you can’t believe Ford–she didn’t report it at the time” applied the exact same standard to Juanita Broaddrick back in 1999?

    1. Or Ronald Reagan’s daughter!

      I’m starting to see that the feminists were correct about male chauvinist pigs.

      1. ‘I’m starting to see that the feminists were correct about male chauvinist pigs.’

        Congrats, you almost passed for a dude.

    2. Yeah, she should have reported it to the state police who were serving as Clinton’s bodyguards at the time, they were conveniently handy.

      Look, at least Broaddrick would have had the excuse that she was reluctant to accuse somebody with considerable power. Ford claims to have not accused a high school student.

      Ramirez claims to have been aware of multiple gang rapes and not thought telling the police would be a good idea!

      I’m perfectly willing to have a uniform policy: Report it, or STFU.

      But it better be uniform.

    3. I wonder how many people who are now saying that “you can’t believe Ford–she didn’t report it at the time” applied the exact same standard to Juanita Broaddrick back in 1999?

      Broaddrick didn’t ask to be believed, she actually denied the rape at the time.

      In addition, if she had come forward, there was both good evidence that she was raped and she had a good reason for not reporting the rape to law enforcement (her rapist was the attorney general himself).

      1. She never denied the rape. She recanted at one point due to media pressure but quickly unrecanted. She has specific times and places. She had contemporary accounts from people she told the day after. If you can’t tell the difference you’re fucking retarded.

    4. Broaddrick knew when and where. She knew how she got there and back. Her witness corroborated seeing her naked, scared, and bleeding from a bite wound to the upper lip. Bill Clinton was known to be in the same location.

      Ford doesn’t know when or where. She doesn’t know how she got there or back. Her own four witnesses categorically denied or failed to corroborate even being there.

      The Senate hearing was like listening to some idiot describe their prophetic dream on a whacked out radio show and then other idiots call in wanting to argue the details of what ‘really’ happened. To rational people it’s moot.

  37. I saw the headline that Flake is confused. That should have been the end of the article.
    The phony libertarian that supports warrantless surveillance among other anti-libertarian positions. Had ZERO chance of reelection so he dared not run again. Just trying to prove he is still important in his final days.
    Good riddance, it can’t happen soon enough.

  38. “He’s free to be the voice of the people?or perhaps the Senate’s conscience, if you prefer?and the vox populi is frustrated, confused, and a little angry.”

    He’s also free to say, “Screw the people, I no longer have to answer to them at the ballot box.” Which is, I think, a better explanation for his retirement.

    1. The explanation for his retirement is a 30% popularity among his own constituents.

  39. and “believe” is indeed the right word here, because the frustrating lack of concrete evidence has turned that question into an article of partisan faith.

    Oh, what bullshit. The “frustrating lack of concrete evidence” is no accident, it’s engineered.

    And, no, it isn’t a question of who you believe, it’s a question of whether these questions should even be raised at this point. At this point, the accusations should be dismissed with no further consideration as to the credibility of the accuser.

  40. Flake is such an idiot and a cuck. It’s no wonder all these tools who write for Reason constantly metaphorically suck him off in their articles.

    Anyone who can’t see this for the hatched job this is is a total moron. The whole thing reeks of it. Every individual instance of something is not a totally fresh thing. The left has a long and storied history of total bullshit smear campaigns of this sort, and every single indication points to this being nothing more than that. This latest gang rape story, thankfully, is sooooooo unbelievable that it will discredit the slightly more thought out lies of the others.

    But, back to Flake… He just can’t help but be a total squishy coward about everything. He always takes the weak, prog friendly route on every issue. He has no spine, no moral compass, and apparently no common sense.

    If this man, or any of those Republican senators, scuttles Kavs nomination I hope they die a slow and painful death for their stupidity and treachery. Not saying anybody should go kill them or anything, I’m just saying I hope they get cancer or something. Because they deserve it. This is an INCREDIBLY important event for the country, and if they screw it up out of cowardice, being afraid of the leftist hate mob, they’re morons and traitors who didn’t do the right thing for the country. The left cannot ever be appeased, and people need to realize this, and just put their foot down.

  41. He’s free to be the Senate’s conscience?

    The last conscience of the Senate was a Klansman.

    1. Not Ted Kennedy?

  42. “‘How uninformed and uncaring do you have to be to say things like that, much less believe them?’ asked Flake.”

    Less uninformed and less uncaring than the rocket scientists of “caring” and “understanding” who think that a fifteen-year-old high school student can somehow manage to pick out victims who will

    ? become liberal activists against the president who will nominate him to SCOTUS;
    ? all not tell a friend, parent, teacher or adult at the time;
    ? all wait 30 years to tell anyone;
    ? all not seek medical attention at the time;
    ? all not go to the police at the time; and
    ? all wait until the last day or later of his Senate confirmation hearings to come forward.

    What are the odds of all this? That’s not prescience. That’s the work of a time traveler.

    There’s a difference between suspending your disbelief and acting as if you’ve had a lobotomy. Jeff Flake is so far past that point that he can’t even seek reelection.

    Don’t be a Flake. Use your brain.

    1. If I could find an up arrow on your post I’d hammer it 10,000 times.

  43. I think I’ve concluded that the gentleman’s agreement amongst government officials is finally off, and I think it’s about time.

    I hope there are GOP investigators combing through the past histories of every close race in the upcoming elections, and I hope they blacken the sky with accusers. I hope the Democrats do it as well.

    As libertarians we are all aware that power attracts the power hungry, and that is why the only remedy is to severely limit the power given to government. Alternatively we will have this which is probably going to be more effective in the long term and limiting government.

    What we are seeing right now is as inevitable as ants crawling all over a picnic peanut butter sandwich.

    It’s ugly, but the free market / evolution/ nature often is when viewed close up.

  44. I for one am not confused about what’s going on. Chuck Schumer said he would use everything at his disposal to delay or stop the vote and that’s just what’s happening. Schumer and Feinstein and the Democrats and their news media friends doing just what was promised.

  45. Do away with the process. Nothing requires anything more from the Senate than an up or down vote on an appointee at some point in time…

  46. “There has been almost no consideration of whether Kavanaugh would make a good justice; no consideration of his judicial record or his legal views.”

    Yeah, but he made it a whole lot farther than Merrick Garland who, BTW, actually HAS a judicial record and has actually passed the bar exam, unlike Kavanaugh. But don’t let inconvenient facts get in the way of a deregulation orgy.

    1. ‘It’d be better if he was a lawyer’ said no sane person anywhere, ever.

  47. Is Flake frustrated and confused by the one-week (maybe) delay in the vote urged by Flake? Perhaps he should talk to Flake.

  48. Judging by the perpetual look on his face Jeff Flake has just badly needed to poop for a really long time.

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