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Donald Trump Should Stick it to Jeff Sessions and the 'Deep State' by Pardoning Reality Winner

The woman who leaked a report showing Russian attempts to infiltrate voting systems gets the longest sentence ever imposed for her offense.

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Reality Winner
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Who will serve more prison time: Michael Cohen, who admitted in court this week that he arranged hush-money payments during the 2016 campaign to keep women quiet about their dalliances with Donald Trump? Or Reality Winner, who was arrested a year ago after she leaked a National Security Agency (NSA) report showing evidence that hackers connected to Russian intelligence had attempted to infiltrate state-level voting systems?

On Thursday, Winner was sentenced to 63 months in federal prison for violating the Espionage Act, the longest sentence ever imposed on someone charged with leaking classified information to the press. She's already spent a year in jail, having been denied bail (unlike Cohen). The law doesn't even permit her to defend her leak as being in the national interest.

Cohen's plea agreement, by complete coincidence, has a maximum sentence that is also 63 months. But the sentence could be as short as 43 months, which means Cohen could face less time for his role in attempting to cover up information relevant to the 2016 election than Winner could face for exposing it.

This morning, President Trump's complicated collection of feuds led to an interesting place where he seemed to acknowledge that Winner's leaking was not a big deal, at least compared to what he believes Hillary Clinton has done:

Note the scare quotes around "classified." Maybe we shouldn't read too much into that—Trump tends to pepper his tweets liberally with scare quotes. Trump's tweet nonetheless got the attention of Winner's mother, who responded that he should consider pardoning her:

Let's be clear about the report that Winner leaked. It did not implicate Trump in any way. It was entirely about attempts by Russian hackers to infiltrate our voting systems. And this was important information that was valuable for state-level election officials to know about. Just last month the Justice Department announced indictments against 12 Russian hackers for allegedly attempting to meddle with the 2016 election. Most of them were charged with infiltrating the Democratic National Committee and Clinton's campaign, then arranging to release the information they uncovered through intermediaries. Two of them, though, were charged with the sort of activity that Winner leaked: attempting to infiltrate voting systems.

Just as with Edward Snowden, there's a strong case here for forgiving Winner's crime because the information serves the public interest. If Trump actually thinks it's "unfair," he should consider pardoning Winner. Unfortunately, it's probably more likely that Trump believes it's unfair that Clinton and his political enemies aren't being arrested too—that Attorney General Jeff Sessions is being too nice, not too mean.

Bonus link: If you think Winner is just some hippie flake because she doesn't like Trump, you should read Reason Contributing Editor Kerry Howley's lengthy profile of the woman at New York Magazine.

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  1. Well, Trump did pardon Kristian Saucier.

    1. I have come to realize “libertarians” are not much into personal responsibility when it fits their pet issues like leaking or smoking pot, but lets wade into this.

      1) She signed an agreement to not do exactly what she did. She was granted access to information and abused it by leaking it.
      2) It is not her role to disclose this information to anyone. She was a translator, nothing more.
      3) Releasing documents like this exposes sources and methods and can potentially close the loophole or backdoor that allows this information to be acquired.

      BIG NO NO.

      Your opinion that you think you deserve to know classified information does not outweigh the need to safeguard sources and methods.

      Dumb article.

  2. Why not begin with Julian Assange? He actually leaked something meaningful. So strange how Assange became number one baddie after he published damaging information about Clinton. I’m old enough to remember when he was praised for publishing information about US government lies.

    1. Or Snowden too.

    2. Assange is facing the possibility of losing his protection in the Ecuadorian embassy right now, too. So his case seems even more pressing

      http://www.theguardian.com/media/2018…..-wikileaks

      1. Why is Reason ignoring this story? I’ve been pretty critical of this site lately but I can’t believe they’ve drifted so far left that they don’t give a shit.

        1. If you’re wondering why, just look at JFree below. Woketarians believe #resist is more important than principles. Assange is a baddie, because he published bad info about Clinton.

          1. Bingo. Existence is filtered through their Hate Trump spectacles.

            Love the “Woketarians”. I’ve been using Progressitarians, but Woketarians is better.

    3. He actually leaked something meaningful.

      He also corresponded with Donald Trump Jr in ways that look remarkably like collaborating in oppo research

      Give Assange a pardon – and unless Assange is completely trustworthy (which he’s obviously not), then that means that Trump should potentially throw DT Jr to the wolves.

      Won’t happen

      1. Keep chasing those fever dreams

        1. Fever dreams? Read the fucking link

          Dec 16 2016 – wiki to DTJr – Hi Don. Hope you’re doing well! In relation to Mr. Assange: Obama/Clinton placed pressure on Sweden, UK and Australia to illicitly go after Mr. Assange. It would be real easy and helpful for your dad to suggest that Australia appoint Assange ambassador to DC.

          Election Day 2016 – wiki to DTJr – Hi Don if your father ‘loses’ we think it is much more interesting if he DOES NOT conceed [sic] and spends time CHALLENGING the media and other types of rigging that occurred?as he has implied that he might do

          Oct 12 2016 – wiki to DTJr – Hey Donald, great to see you and your dad talking about our publications. Strongly suggest your dad tweets this link if he mentions us. There’s many great stories the press are missing and we’re sure some of your follows [sic] will find it. Btw we just released Podesta Emails Part 4.
          15 mins later – Trump tweets about great job wikileaks is doing. Two days later – Trump tweets that link

          You gotta be a fucking nutjob to think that Trump wants Assange pardoned until ALL of the Russia/election stuff is completely over with

          1. Since when is information considered immoral? Hillary sought the same dirt from the same sources.

            1. I’m saying that Trump granting Assange immunity (which is exactly what a pardon involves) is likely to lead to something more in that particular story and it would likely harm DTJr.

              Personally I don’t give a rats ass about any of that trumpclinton stuff. That’s for you DeRps to derp derp derp.

  3. Scott,

    The deep state can read your article.

    Be careful and all the best !

  4. I’m OK with Trump pardoning the girl as long as the mother has to serve the rest of her sentence for naming her “Reality”.

    1. What’s wrong with naming someone after a concept? Prudence, Chastity, etc.

      1. Because they tend to be the inverse of what their name implies?

        1. It is the opposite of a stripper’s name (Fantasy!), so there’s that.

      2. Well, the reason people were named in that particular fashion was because those concepts were considered virtues.

        Even just to be phrased as a virtue, it would need to be “Realism” instead of “Reality”.

        But mostly it was a throwaway joke at the poor girl’s expense for something she had no control over, and I’m a jerk for making it.

      3. Because “Reality” is not a ‘concept’. It is not something fungible, or something to be aspired to, any more than the names “Thing” or “Stuff” would be considered concepts. Not the same at all.

        As someone who long ago got laid by girls named “Sunshine” and “Moon”*, I can’t say I’m inherently opposed to weird names for girls, but no. 90 days for the chick, 4+ years for the mother.

        *-nothing they leaked was of a restricted classification.

        1. What?????

          ‘Thing’ ain’t good enough for you? Well it’s clobberin’ time now buddy!!!

  5. The leaked report was a complete nothing burger. She was a patsy for the Intercept. Basically Glenn Greenwald, who’s a Putin stooge, was in a fight with the editors of his own magazine (who were anti-Assad Russiaphobes). They had been publishing articles on both sides. Greenwald said publish it, knowing it would be discredited, which it basically was. Sure there was an attempt to infiltrate, but it wasn’t major, and it wasn’t in the public interest to leak it. I agree the sentence was unduly harsh. But please kids, don’t leak no matter how good your intentions. #dontbeahero

    1. “Basically Glenn Greenwald, who’s a Putin stooge”

      LOL

    2. Now do the Pentagon Papers.

      Liberty through overclassification and government secrecy!

    3. Sure there was an attempt to infiltrate, but it wasn’t major

      It wasn’t major because it was too late for that election. But if you are not aware, we have regular elections in the US.

      and it wasn’t in the public interest to leak it.

      Well that’s just crap. Elections are administered on a county-level with significant state-level interest. There is almost NO federal involvement. All the blackbox voting systems have serious potential hacks and flaws anyway. ‘Election administration’ is pretty much the definition of ‘in the public interest’. NSA’s actions in concealing that info – and sentencing her to prison is exactly an indication that ‘conceal’ is what they intend – undermine election administration esp since the last year is exactly when counties make their security fixes and purchase decisions and such in preparation for upcoming 2018 elections.

      1. From the Intercept’s article:

        “While the document provides a rare window into the NSA’s understanding of the mechanics of Russian hacking, it does not show the underlying “raw” intelligence on which the analysis is based. A U.S. intelligence officer who declined to be identified cautioned against drawing too big a conclusion from the document because a single analysis is not necessarily definitive.”

        Keep pimping that statism, though

        1. it does not show the underlying “raw” intelligence on which the analysis is based.

          That is precisely why it should never have been ‘classified’ to begin with. There is no reveal of sources/methods. No even remote ‘national security interest’. There is enough info there to know that that was a preparatory hack – collect the county contact info (and their computers) for a particular company’s election system (and there’s only 4 main suppliers out there). Next step – with two years to do it – is to hijack maintenance/upgrade downloads. It is very easy to rig the vote counts with all of that blackbox software.

          But hey – obviously there is no fucking public interest at all in knowing WHO is trying to hack that. Because obviously the Russian govt is not as cybercapable as a programmer in Memphis.

          Keep chewing the dingleberries you DeRp bitch.

      2. Voting machines produce a local vote total that is sent to state voter offices.

        It can hacked and is not as secure as manual ballots but its also fast for vote totals and can be decentralized during the voting process so tampering is less likely.

        1. It can only be decentralized to the degree that it uses entirely separate voting/election technologies. The ‘fraction magic’ video I linked to shows how any of those tabulating/reporting systems can be hacked/rigged – centrally and invisibly – across every single precinct that uses that system – for any particular election that it is tabulating – and successfully enough to survive most audits from the precinct level up to the general election level.

          And, once embedded, the hacking/rigging can occur far faster than election results are reported.

          At core – the hacker can decide who/what is going to win the particular election – decide what % of the final vote they will win – and the actual individual votes will be weighted to ensure that that is the outcome. And every major voting system incorporates that ‘fractional vote’ mechanism that allows for the hack.

    4. Glenn Greenwald, who’s a Putin stooge
      You’re drunk, Omarosa. Time to go home.

  6. Howley’s profile kind of sucks, and the celebration of her as a victim is mostly bullshit based on fact she’s a “cute white girl”. What she did was massively stupid and would have sent anyone to jail. There have been far better examples of valid whistleblowers of conscience who were ignored by media.

    Much like Chelsea Manning: she didn’t even understand the ‘evidence’ she was leaking, and was too-dumb to realize that it wasn’t significant of anything at all re: Russia. But it was revealing of the collection-methods of her agency and the way it processed intel, which served no one any good except “the russians” (a term used to mean, “anyone who likes to engage in disinfo/cyber-harassment efforts”, rather than the actual nation-state)

    That said: Sure, pardon her, and pardon Snowden. But I’d still prefer he prioritized sentencing reform rather than virtue-signal. Do both, whatever. Just spare me the bullshit sob story.

    1. Well the manning in a dress got a pardon, so pardons for all leakers then.

      On second thought no. It’s a crime or it isn’t.

      1. And you get a pardon! And you get a pardon! Said President Winfrey.

  7. How often in real life does a person you hold in contempt take your advice on what they should do?

    I never quite understand a pundit’s love of writing these kinds of articles, outside of a type of narcissism.

    1. It does speak to a certain lack of awareness.

    2. It’s not narcissism, it’s a big virtue signal. Don’t expect any columns arguing for Assange’s pardon forthcoming. #Resist is more important that principles

      1. This. The real point of this article is to continue to push the Russian meddling/collusion myth.

        Although it’s certainly possible that Shackturd might be so fucking stupid that he actually really believes that Putin hacked into his voting machine and changed his vote from Hildog to Trump.

        1. “Shackturd”

          (holds up card: 6.8, low effort)

          1. “Slackford”??

            *crosses fingers behind back*

      2. Pardon? Has he even been indicted (all though maybe by double secret court), charged or convicted of a crime yet in US court? Wikipedia’s last entry says the US government was preparing charges in 2017.

  8. The law doesn’t even permit her to defend her leak as being in the national interest.

    I find this hard to believe. Got a citation?

    1. Actually, it does; She can make that argument to the President, who is empowered to pardon her.

      The problem for her is that the law doesn’t make exceptions for her thinking it’s in the national interest, because she hasn’t been assigned the job of making that decision.

      There are certainly conceivable circumstances under which somebody at her level should, morally, make that call. But I don’t see any way to build those into the law. Basically you have to take your chances on the big guy agreeing with you.

      1. This is Reason. Contracts only matter when we like them.

      2. She should be able to challenge the classification. Documents are over classified and allow the government to hide information the people should be entitled to.

        1. On this we can agree.

  9. “63 months in federal prison”

    So to translate into normal-people language, that’s 5 years and 3 months?

    1. That’s even more time than Charles Schenck got for violating the same law (when he yelled ‘fire’ in a crowded theater, or something).

    2. She got off lucky.

      The Federal system gives good time credits, so she will be out before that 63 months.

      She might have a rough time, if the deep state demands that she be isolated from other prisoners so she doesnt blab about more classified stuff she saw.

      People in custody get bored and there are always ambitious criminals willing to get their hustle on.

  10. Bonus link: If you think Winner is just some hippie flake because she doesn’t like Trump

    No, I think her parents are/were hippie flakes because they named their daughter Reality Winner. And she is probably (though not necessarily) a hippie flake because she is her parent’s daughter.

  11. So she’s guilty of passing secrets to the media. Which is why it’s not a bad question to ask about your media contacts when applying for a security clearance. Especially since getting a security clearance assumes you can keep your mouth shut about the material you can handle.

  12. “the most dangerous entry to this country was the orange fascist we let into the White House” — R. Winner.

    I don’t think she’s getting a pardon.

    She was a decorated Air Force veteran.

    The government doesn’t have to show any actual harm to prosecute. This allows them to over classify to protect information that may be embarrassing but not relevant to national security and punish people for embarrassing the government.

    1. Like FISA warrants then.

      1. They should be reviewed for necessity of classification.
        They should not be released in the middle of an investigation.

        1. They should not go to a different FISA judge to present the same information and pretend it’s new.

        2. Oh, you mean like documents about Russian interference?

    2. Decorated.

      Lol.

      It’s the Air Force, you twit. They are the participation trophy branch of the armed services. Everyone gets a medal. Getting your people medals is how you get promoted.

      1. Air Force Intelligence. She speaks Persian and Pashto. That may be…helpful these days.

        1. Ah who cares about that. Everyone knows that the real dangerous people all switch to English when conspiring against the US. This ‘language proficiency’ stuff is just more affirmative action that favors foreigners at the direct expense of patriotic Americans.

          My cousin can smell a terrorist from a quarter-mile away and can tell the difference between a terrorist-in-disguise v a civilian from nearly sniper range. But can he get a job as a cryptologic linguist – when they insist on people understanding Arabic, Farsi, Chinese, Russian, etc? Of course not. Those jobs are reserved for foreigners and hippies who only learn languages so they can sip lattes and attend orgies in the tropics.

          1. “Those jobs are reserved for foreigners and hippies who only learn languages so they can sip lattes and attend orgies in the tropics”

            They have those jobs? (Gets out Russian and hippie dictionaries to start practicing)

            ?????? ?????, Like, far out.

        2. ZOMG! That changes EVERYTHING!

          We need more of those dedicated public servants.

      2. Everyone gets a medal. Getting your people medals is how you get promoted.

        Well here are her commendations:

        assisting in geolocating 120 enemy combatants during 734 airborne sorties

        aided in 650 “enemy captures” and 600 “enemies killed in action.”

        No fucking surprise that the Trumpbots are so far up his ass that they can’t recognize the difference between actual service to one’s country and some loudmouthed orange baboon with bone spurs on his ankles.

        1. And she never had to leave the country. What a hero! Always in the front line of danger from getting a sunburn from all of that monitor usage. The threat of carpal tunnel syndrome around every letter.

        2. Clearly you have never been involved in writing an military eval or rec for commendation. “Instrumental in”, “Assisted with” and “Aided with” blah blah are all standard BS entries. Practically fill in the blank, and most of it actually is check a box.. Bet she had a “Flawless handling of classified materials” entry somewhere too.

          And let’s talk about the flawless record keeping of personnel. My husband’s service record had him awarded a Battle E for a carrier…and he was a career submariner that never set foot on a target. He pointed it out and admin was like “meh…whatever”

          1. It is not a standard BS entry. She speaks Arabic, Farsi, Dari, Pashto, and English – and importantly is non-Muslim. She wasn’t identifying infrared blobs on a screen for purposes of killing everything that moves.

            It’s the difference between killing an actual hostile v
            killing an innocent where killing them means the US now has an additional 100 members of their clan who view the US as the enemy and set future ambushes.

            1. And yet she is stupid.

              1. She was certainly naive. Which is very normal for 20-somethings.

                She was not, by any reasonable definition, guilty of espionage or of harming the national interest of the United States.

                Since the nature of what she leaked is so benign, and her penalty so severe; she does have a reasonable chance of challenging the Espionage Act itself as an unconstitutional means of suppressing (take your pick) the 1st Amendment, the 6th Amendment, or challenges to the govt classification of documents.

    3. She got a medal for assisting in overseas drone strikes… hardly the thing heros are made of. I thought the left was against drone strikes? Make up your god damn minds.

      1. A medal does not make you a hero.

        You don’t have to carry a gun to be a hero. She was obviously very lethal to the enemy and exceptionally good at it.

        Every one of those jihadis she killed or aided in the capture of was one less to shoot our soldiers. I am sure the ground forces appreciated it.

      2. Medals get handed out whenever possible in the military, as it generally improves the fitrep of the officers in somebody’s immediate chain of command. The occasion of it boosting morale/esprit de corps is a secondary value.

    4. Decorated? With which decorations?

  13. This chick is stupid. She is one of the last on the pardon list for ex-employees of the deep state.

  14. Still not mentioning Assange.

    Seriously, do you assholes have a gag order or something?

  15. Who will serve more prison time: Michael Cohen, who admitted in court this week that he arranged hush-money payments during the 2016 campaign to keep women quiet”

    NDA’s are not hush money and not illegal either way

    1. Seriously this whole campaign funding violation is a pretty extreme legal theory in these circumstances. I’d like to see any precedent for this prosecution. At this point it looks like the justice department is just making shit up.

      1. John Edwards might be the closest thing. It didn’t go well for the prosecution.

        1. And they used campaign funds.

          Lots of campaign funds.

          Not just cash, there were flights and minders… it was a big operation.

          1. Exactly. If he didn’t go down for that, Atrump isn’t going down for anything he might have done. And let’s be honest, given the rather public way Trump’s personal life has o,aged out for the last 40 years in public already, was any of this really going to influence the election?

      2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…..estigation

        He accepted a ride on a helicopter.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A…..conviction

        She got $22k from a supporter using fake names.

        1. Those are interesting stories.

          Neither is anywhere close to the current story, in which a lawyer is convicted (well, convinced to cop to a plea) for executing an NDA contract for his client using a contingency fund the client set up with him. (at least that is presumably where the money came from. The docs are confusing on that point.)

          1. He was convicted because of the litany of other charges against him. The campaign charges were throw ins to appease the idiot left.

            1. The campaign charges were throw ins to make it look like Trump did something illegal.
              Manafort, Kelly, Papadopolus, Page are all efforts to get something on Trump to try to justify this coup d’etat.
              Probably would never even have been looked at, except for the existential butt-hurt over HiLIARy losing the election and preventing the cementing of socialist rule in the U.S.

        2. He paid a $1,000 “community penalty.” [30] On January 4, 2013, the Senior Resident Superior Court Judge for Wake County granted Easley a Certificate of relief from disabilities.[31] Federal officials ended their investigation because of the plea.[29]

          And here’s a fun one.

    2. Yeah, the phrasing is pretty bad from “Reason”, since it’s deliberately emotive. But far worse, is they ignore the questionable issue of, “Is this an actual crime?”

      1. Aaaaaaaand, it isn’t.

    3. “But that doesn’t let me squash these two stories together like they’re somehow comparable and make a bogus point!”

  16. What I don’t like about Scott’s article is how much it’s in bad faith. Scott, Reality hasn’t shown the proper sycophancy towards Trump or hasn’t invoked the mantle of victim hood that the rest of Trump’s cadre of brave freedom fighter have called upon. Obviously Trump isn’t going to pardon her and why should he? People who get pardons from Trump are only reserved for people who have literally… no literally offered him fellatio like Sheriff Joe. Maybe if this cute White girl would offer to blow him she might get presidential attention. Barring that? Tough shit, honey.

      1. Hmmm, I don’t have that, but I do have this problem with priapism any time I go near President Trump’s twitter page. Is there a pill that one can take to calm myself before reading his inspirational ringers about Crooked Hillary. Surely, you would know.

  17. “But the sentence could be as short as 43 months, which means Cohen could face less time for his role in attempting to cover up information relevant to the 2016 election than Winner could face for exposing it.”

    Do you folks even hear yourselves anymore?

    Even if you share the insanity that that thinks Cohen’s actions constituted a “campaign contribution”, they were totally legal otherwise.

    Reality Winner’s actions were totally illegal.

    Not in any way comparable for the legal status of what they did with information.

    TDS has truly driven Anti Trumpers insane. They are delusional, so accustomed to believing whatever delusions they need to hate Trump, that it’s become a habit of thought for *anything* it’s convenient for them to believe.

    1. “”TDS has truly driven Anti Trumpers insane.””

      Do you have any proof they were sane prior to his election?

    2. >>>Do you folks even hear yourselves anymore?

      Stupidity Peer-Review policy necessary

    3. Don’t you see? Everything Trump did (legal, illegal, et al) was to win the election. An election that belonged to Hillary Clinton PBUH!!!1!!11!

  18. No sympathy for this woman. Her actions could have helped Hillary and hurt Trump. That makes her no friend to libertarians. No way she should be pardoned.

    Libertarians need to admit the only principle that matters is that if it hurts the left, it helps freedom. Even if taking away a person’s freedom hurts the left, it helps freedom.

    I don’t know why this isn’t obvious.

    1. Your hyperpartisanism is showing.

      1. You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  19. I don’t think Cohen is the apt comparison here at all.

    I’d go with Comey, who never really faced an investigation for leaking.

    Or Susan Rice taking classified wire tap information about foreign nationals, “unmasking” the supposedly incidentally captured Americans and leaking that information all over the place. No consequences of any sort.

    Or maybe the relevant example would be shoving classified documents down your pants… ah, who am I kidding. Nobody even remembers that one..

    1. They should. He was kinda orange too.

  20. I see a lot of discussion about Trump and Hillary but how does this case look from a libertarian perspective?

    Seems that she certainly violated her terms of agreement freely entered into with her employer. Those terms included the possibility of going to prison as she knew. It would not matter what was leaked if you look at it that way.

  21. “TDS has truly driven Anti Trumpers insane. They are delusional, so accustomed to believing whatever delusions they need to hate Trump, that it’s become a habit of thought for *anything* it’s convenient for them to believe.”
    This is what disturbs me. Trump has done some really bad stuff and he’s done some really good stuff. Overall he’s pretty ordinary but much better than average from a libertarian perspective. But there’s no sense of proportion in the media coverage. Including Reason. I’ve been hating presidents for 45 years and I could find plenty to hate about Trump. But the irrational hatred for him amongst the elite and their followers borders on the bizarre. I’m left to believe that even the “libertarians” at Reason see Trump as a threat not to liberty, not to the economy, not to world peace but to the status quo that they secretly find comfort in. Trump is a political revolution for better or for worse. But Reason would rather have Clinton so they can spend the next 8 years establishing their bona fides by tilting at windmills while the nation continues down the road to serfdom.

    1. What gets me most about Trump is how ordinary he actually is, as Presidents go. We’ve had all kinds, including pretty crude ones before. My parents told me stories about the outrageously churlish stuff LBJ did, and that was in addition to getting thousands of kids killed overseas for absolutely nothing.

      Trump is rude and crude and dimwitted on economics, yes, but so far he hasn’t lived up to the modern day Hitler status. Yet the left keeps saying it as if people are going to disbelieve their own experience.

  22. Unfortunately, it’s probably more likely that Trump believes it’s unfair that Clinton and his political enemies aren’t being arrested too

    I like the way Shackeflord’s fan-fic Trump character thinks!

  23. No sympathy for this woman. Her actions could have helped Hillary and hurt Trump. That makes her no friend to libertarians. No way she should be pardoned.

    Libertarians need to admit the only principle that matters is that if it hurts the left, it helps freedom. Even if taking away a person’s freedom hurts the left, it helps freedom.

    I don’t know why this isn’t obvious.

    1. “The only principle that matters if if hurts the left…”

      Add one more axis.

  24. Reality Winner is either an awesome name or a terrible
    name.

    It’s one of those completely unforgettable names, like Robin Banks, or Miss Ann Thrope, or even Mike Hunt.

    1. Or even Iningo Montoya.

      She looks good in orange.

      Perhaps couple years gonna make her stronger. She knew what was up.

  25. Who will serve more prison time: Michael Cohen, who admitted in court this week that he arranged hush-money payments during the 2016 campaign to keep women quiet about their dalliances with Donald Trump?

    Paying hush money is legal and ought to be legal.

    Or Reality Winner, who was arrested a year ago after she leaked a National Security Agency (NSA) report showing evidence that hackers connected to Russian intelligence had attempted to infiltrate state-level voting systems?

    Leaking NSA reports is illegal and ought to be illegal.

  26. Unfortunately, it’s probably more likely that Trump believes it’s unfair that Clinton and his political enemies aren’t being arrested too?that Attorney General Jeff Sessions is being too nice, not too mean.

    Unlike Trump, Clinton clearly has committed several felonies. Why shouldn’t she be arrested and punished?

    1. Clinton clearly has committed several felonies.

      Thanks for that proclamation, internet rando. If you say it, then “clearly” it’s true! Too bad people who actually matter determined the opposite. As for Trump, maybe you’re right. I mean, accepting emoluments isn’t technically a felony…or is it?

  27. Prison is a bad idea for anyone who does not pose an imminent threat of violence against someone they have threatened. Exile may be an option for those who might be violent. Freedom for those who aren’t.

  28. “Note the scare quotes around “classified.””

    That’s just Trump not knowing how to use them.

    1. Moronic anti Trump comment from moron is moronic.

  29. Sorry, that’s not how the system works. If we let every NSA employee/contractor tell the world our secrets, pretty soon we won’t have any secrets, nor a country – though the Open Borders idiots are working really hard to accomplish that.

  30. A pardon? No, that won’t call the dogs off, and where does this go? But I wonder… could Mueller have any case at all against the Russian hackers but for her leak? I’m guessing no. Things are so firewalled/compartmentalized at the federal level, I don’t think his team would have discovered any of this, because Trumps name is nowhere near it. And, since Sessions seems content with the special prosecutors trajectory of late [a narrative being crafted about a “circle of corruption” to smudge the president with by creating process crimes or plea deals], a pardon for Reality does not add or subtract to that effort. Nothing’s going to happen, especially when her treatment spotlights the bias within the DOJ to continue down their road of obstructing and aiding/abetting the hildebeast for her crimes against national security. Is she a hero? No. Did she perform a public service [given the permanent ‘stand down’ order 44 seemed to have in place during his second term]? Perhaps. Does the 2012 Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act need to be revisited? Maybe, but first note that agencies stall people following ‘process’ at least several years, and often past any sitting presidents term.

  31. Reality Winner?

    Well there was Mink Snopes, Montgomery Ward Snopes, Admiral Dewey Snopes….

  32. What crime? The secret band of robbers and murderers has been loose upon us since the 1860s. Nixon’s subsidies preserve 19th Century looters every bit as well as formaldehyde, and their rights-violating conspiracies against the honest can hardly be called proper laws. Someone ought to interview the Prometheus lady who brought us facts. She and Snowden might qualify as write-in LP candidates somewhere.

  33. Now my theory is that the Mueller-Comey-Rosenthal-McCabe-Strzuk brain trust (more names could be addended but you get the drift) got hold of all the Hillary emails early on, notwithstanding her best efforts at acid washing and hammering devices into smithereens.

    Having digested these communications, these worthies realized that not only was the Democrat Party in profound peril, so was the entire Obama legacy and the reputation of Barack O. himself. Worse than that, the entire Establishment bureaucracy and its denizens would be at risk from the furies that letting these emails be unleashed would cause.

    What to do?

    One of the Deep State bunch saw an out. They all understood that Russian interference in the 2016 was real but it was a nothing burger and Obama had been so briefed. They all knew That Trump “collusion” with Russians was also nothing but business as usual in both parties and that investigating that would ultimately go nowhere.

    They did, however, suspect that there was plenty of unsavory stuff about Trump and at least some of his associates that could be unearthed. Given that the heavily Democrat Mainstream Media stood eagerly waiting to lend massive support to any Witch Hunt effort (even one which there was no real reason to initiate.) Mueller volunteered to step forward and be the brutal strong armer of TDS on an undefined quest.

    Trump, however, will not get used and abused so easily. Bet on that one.

  34. Winner will not be pardoned. She leaked Top Secret material. President Trump does call for equal justice for Winner, in that Hillary should be in jail too. Plus, Winner was in jail for a year before she was finally convicted and sentenced–another injustice for Winner. The DOJ must prosecute Hillary. If Sessions can’t, Trump needs to appoint someone that will.

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