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ICE

Portland Food Cart Shuts Down Following Harassment by Occupy ICE Protesters

The Happy Camper provoked demonstrators' wrath by continuing to serve federal immigration officials.

Christian Britschgi | 7.23.2018 12:25 PM

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A Portland food cart is closing down following harassment and alleged threats of violence from protestors who objected to the business serving federal immigration agents.

Since mid-June, demonstrators have set up an encampment outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office in southwestern Portland to protest the Trump administration's border crackdown. The protest, known as Occupy ICE PDX, spawned similar protests across the country; it succeeded in shutting down ICE's Portland office for a week before police officers moved the demonstrators away from the entrances. An uneasy standoff has since developed between the remaining anti-ICE protestors and federal police.

Caught in the middle of this is The Happy Camper, a food cart that occupied a street corner directly across from both the encampment and ICE office.

Co-owned by couple Scott and Julie Hakes, The Happy Camper used to do steady business serving food to the federal agents who worked across the street. The two used the proceeds to help fund their non-profit Off The Grid, which supplies food and clothing to Portland's homeless population.

Julie was initially supportive of the Occupy ICE protest when it started, according to comments she made the Willamette Week. But the Hakes' attempt to "stay neutral and serve all who are hungry," including ICE and other Department of Homeland Security (DHS) staff who share the Portland office space, provoked anger from some anti-ICE demonstrators, who reportedly threatened staff at the food cart for failing to get on board with the struggle.

Video apparently taken by a female Happy Camper employee—and shared by a right-wing Twitter account—shows a demonstrator using a megaphone to call the staffer a "bitch" and accuse her of laughing at the victims of U.S. immigration laws.

According to Scott Hakes, the last straw came when protestors threatened his 21-year-old daughter for serving food to a DHS employee. "If they catch her outside the cart, they're going to hurt her. They're constantly cussing at her and screaming at her," he told KGW. According to the owners, protestors also threatened to burn down the cart.

On July 20, less than a month after protests began, a post went up on the Happy Camper's Facebook Facebook page announcing that the food cart would be shutting down. Reads the post: "We tried repeatedly to try to work out peaceful solutions with the organizations and individuals protesting, but it all came back to being told almost daily to either support the anti DHS agenda or suffer the consequences (Quote Unquote)."

Needless to say, threatening violence against third parties for not being sufficiently in favor of one's chosen cause is inexcusable. It's also remarkably counterproductive.

The Portland protest started as a focused demonstration against punitive immigration enforcement in general and the administration's reprehensible family separation policy in particular. If some of its members adopt such a strict with-us-or-against-us stance that they are willing to harass a business' employees just for serving food to their protest's target, that can only damage public sympathy for a laudable cause.

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  1. Gdansk or Danzig?   7 years ago

    Anit -Trumpians, these are your allies whether you like it or not.

    1. Zeb   7 years ago

      And Trump supporters have allies who are white supremacists. So what? You can find terrible people supporting any political cause or politician.

      1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

        No, There isn't. Quit trying to find a equivalency where there isn't any. And progressivism is evil, own it.

        1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

          "There isn't" what? What isn't? Are you saying the are no nasty Trump supporters? Are you complaining about whataboutism?

          There is no there there. You need to put some there there.

          1. Gdansk or Danzig?   7 years ago

            That looks like a reply to Zeb's post.

            1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

              Zeb was perfectly understandable. Whataboutism etc, but understandable, and had a very clear question, "so what?".

              Elias says "There isn't" which is not an answer to anything Zeb asked.

              1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                I was dictating from my phone. It didn't come out right.

                I was countering Zeb. The fact is that white supremicists are in no way "allied" with republican a Trump supporters. Any Trump support from these people is coincidental. Not so with Antifa and the democrats. Democrats and their financial supporters are connected and often coordinated.

                There is no equivalence. Zeb is wrong.

                1. TeamsterX   7 years ago

                  and the Left is anti-Semite as they promote causes beyond BDS and anti-Israel....just go for the Jewish...Asians, need not apply to the left's private institutions...

                  See how generalizations are not truth?

                2. Oli   7 years ago

                  Even if you were right, thinking that all "Anti-Trumpians" are Democrats or Antifa is delusional.

      2. Gdansk or Danzig?   7 years ago

        What, exactly, are you complaining about Zeb?

      3. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

        All 3 of them?

      4. RockLibertyWarrior   7 years ago

        @Zeb This pretty much what Zeb is really saying "Hey look over there! Don't look over here where we are being complete fucking hypocritical, bullying, idiotic pieces of shit!" Fuck off, asshole. You SJW's are intolerant control freaks who are psychotically violent, admit it, but you never will.

    2. TimothyPulido   7 years ago

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    3. DaveKunard   7 years ago

      If you're against Hitler, then you must be for Stalin, an vice a versa. Please.

      1. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

        Democrats are actually backing Antifa, as are their money people, like Soros. So your state,ent does not apply here.

    4. DaveKunard   7 years ago

      If you're against Hitler, then you must be for Stalin, an vice a versa. Please.

  2. KevinP   7 years ago

    The dark cloud of fascism is always descending upon Republicans but it always turns out to be composed of progressives and Democrats.

    Florida Man Arrested, Accused of Threatening to Kill Children of GOP Rep Over Immigration Policies

    Quote:
    A man from Stuart, Florida is in jail after being accused of threatening to harm the children of Republican Rep. Brian Mast (Fla.).

    Mast, who represents the state's 18th Congressional District has three young children, all under the age of 8. The arrested man, Laurence Wayne Key, is facing federal charges for the offense of "communication of a threat to kidnap or injure a person." He threatened Mast's children in response to the Trump administration's immigration policies, according to NBC affiliate WPTV.

    A criminal complaint alleges Key called Mast's Washington, D.C. office and told an intern he would "find the Congressman's kids and kill them." He continued, "If you're going to separate kids at the border, I'm going to kill his kids. Don't try to find me because you won't."

    1. Agammamon   7 years ago

      . . . Don't try to find me because you won't."

      1. Agammamon   7 years ago

        Well, I guess we had better not even try then.

        1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

          I imagine that the congressman got halfway in, and began mobilizing people to hunt this man down and protect his family. Only when he reached the end did the color drain from his face, knowing that he cannot be stopped.

          1. Don't look at me.   7 years ago

            Throws hands in air, oh forget it!

          2. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

            The congressman's kids just need to call force fields if this guy finds them. Everyone knows you can't do anything if they call force fields.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    The two used the proceeds to help fund their non-profit Off The Grid, which supplies food and clothing to Portland's homeless population.

    SHUT DOWN THE PORTLAND HOMELESS TOO. They've been benefiting from ICE money.

    1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

      I noticed that -- idiots can't even help rob the enemry Peter to pay the friendly Paul.

      1. Ben of Houston   7 years ago

        They are doing it privately with their own money. There's no robbing. That's precisely how it's supposed to work.

      2. Ben of Houston   7 years ago

        They are doing it privately with their own money. There's no robbing. That's precisely how it's supposed to work.

    2. Tionico   7 years ago

      please show the documentation behind your claim that ICE money is benefitting Portland's homeless......

      Soros money IS benefitting many of the present protestors..... and this HAS been documented. He's paid for their transportation and wages as they promote HIS agenda. Been going on supporting Portland rioters for some time now. At least since about two years ago.

  4. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    We've moved into a Maoist cultural revolution so seamlessly that no one even seems to have noticed (besides voters, of course).

    1. NoVaNick   7 years ago

      I've been around for 47 years and I have never seen progs and leftists madder and crazier than in the past 18 months. I would not be surprised if we see them return to early 1970s levels of violence, or worse.

      1. sarcasmic   7 years ago

        Ronald Raygun!

        Bushitler!

        I dunno. They seem to be perpetually pissed when their TEAM is not in power.

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          I don't remember Republicans using violence against third-parties that were not sympathetic enough with their cause.

          I guess this is a case of "don't believe your lying eyes- both sides"

          1. sarcasmic   7 years ago

            Violence has always been a hallmark of the left.

          2. stuartl   7 years ago

            The antifa is as closely related to the Dems as the militia movement (McVeigh types) was to the Reps.

            1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

              Not sure about that when the head of the DNC has endorsed their tactics. I don't recall Republicans expressing sympathy for McVeigh

              1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                http://www.nypost.com/2018/01/04/keit.....the-party/

              2. stuartl   7 years ago

                My bad, I did not mean to say anyone supported McVeigh, just trying to identify the groups I was talking about.
                I did not know that Keith Ellison endorsed Antifa. He looks like an outlier, but he clearly should have been soundly rebuked and fired.

                1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                  No. I understood your point and it's fair. I just think that being reduced to a rump minority party has driven progressives mad

                  1. Nardz   7 years ago

                    Except Antifa actually takes orders from top Ds. When Pelosi was finally forced to speak against her Brownshirts, their activity ceased. Coincidence?

                    There's also the matter of common funding

                    1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                      You are correct sir

                  2. Otto Didact   7 years ago

                    "I just think that being reduced to a rump minority party has driven progressives mad"

                    That wasn't a drive. It wasn't even a putt. That, my friend, was a tap-in.

            2. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

              No, it isn't. Quit trying to find false equivalence

            3. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

              Antifa is backed by the democrats. The militia movement is not backed by republicans. Republicans have faults, but are still far superior to democrat trash.

            4. TeamsterX   7 years ago

              Sorry, Jared Loughner (A Proggressive that the press gladly called right)...lone Wolf BS versus mob rules is clearly delineated by Left vs Right viewpoints. Remember when that nasty Tea Party did a Washington Rally and actually cleaned up?

        2. Ron   7 years ago

          I dunno. They seem to be perpetually pissed when their TEAM is not in power.
          but in the past they were not engaging in violent threats and actual violence to anyone and everyone they think thinks differently

      2. Longtobefree   7 years ago

        Days of actual riots was crazier.
        Mostly in democratically ruled cities, I grant you, but actual riots for days nonetheless.

      3. Tionico   7 years ago

        I was around when the 1970's violence was happening... and that was nothing compared to what's going on now. And it only seems it will escalate.. because big money is behind it now. Back then all the hippies just shacked up and lived off whatever they could find or "liberate". Old VeeWee campers served as fine homes, and there were plenty of open spaces in the woods, etc. The only real violence came when the government officials applied force to remove the protesters from parks, university building,s etc, and the protestors simply refused, at times tossing stuff back at them.

    2. mtrueman   7 years ago

      The target here is ICE, yet another federal police force. This is anarchist activity. Maoists attacked revisionists, not police.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        Maoists opposed some parts of the state and supported other parts of state authority. To believe that these people are strictly fueled by opposition to the state would negate the ideology that they proudly espouse

        1. mtrueman   7 years ago

          "To believe that these people are strictly fueled by opposition to the state would negate the ideology that they proudly espouse"

          I don't see any ideology being espoused. I'm focusing on actions. Attacking a federal police HQ is not maoist. It's more of an anarchist, anti-government, anti-state, action. It's not so different from burning a police car, another action you won't find many maoists doing.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            They attacked a business for doing business with police. You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics to justify fascistic actions simply because you like their policy toward ICE

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   7 years ago

              A business that was using it's money to help the homeless.

            2. mtrueman   7 years ago

              Occupying a federal police HQ is not a fascist action. Just ask a fascist if you don't believe me.

              1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                Maybe you should re-read the article. That's not what the thrust of this story is.

                1. mtrueman   7 years ago

                  "That's not what the thrust of this story is."

                  It's not about Maoists, either.

                  1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                    Defending fascists to own the cons.

                    Go with that

                    1. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      I'm not defending fascists or maoists. I'm pointing out that each group has its particular favoured tactic. Occupation in anarchist circles.

                    2. TeamsterX   7 years ago

                      Sorry, nope...same Festival, just a different ride...

                    3. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      You should learn something about anarchist tactics. You're seeing a lot of them in the news these days: occupations, blockades, destruction of property. Leftists have other tactics, like marches, and taking political office. Anarchists believe in direct action. They only go on marches to burn police cars and the like. If you want to believe they are maoists or fascists, I won't stop you.

                    4. TeamsterX   7 years ago

                      You should learn something about fascists/anarchists tactics and protesting...protesting is screaming on the corner with signs...

                      Fascists/Anarchists disrupt daily life to advance their goals.

                    5. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                      Mtrueman, republicans are flawed. Democrats are just evil. Know the difference.

                    6. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      Everyone is flawed and anyone who lusts for domination over others is evil.

                    7. TeamsterX   7 years ago

                      and the fact a fascists/anarchist Occupy BS, just shut down a food cart that aligns with their ideals for feeding food to needy and the people they are protesting is not fascism?

                      Wow, seriously you could win 100yard dash in the fascist Olympics....as long as you convince yourself you are competing in the Anarchist Olympics...

                      here is a hint...both sides love Monster Energy and hate showers.

                    8. perlchpr   7 years ago

                      Hey!

                      An an anarchist, I will have you know that my preference is Red Bull, and I love showers.

                    9. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      "and the fact a fascists/anarchist Occupy BS, just shut down a food cart that aligns with their ideals for feeding food to needy and the people they are protesting is not fascism?"

                      I already told you, don't get hung up on the food truck. It's incidental. I've also already explained the difference between a fascist, an anarchist and a communist. If you have any questions, don't stand on ceremony.

                    10. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                      Hey Mtrue, I doubt the cart was 'incidental' to that couple that were forced out of business by your new friends.

                    11. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      " I doubt the cart was 'incidental' to that couple that were forced out of business by your new friends."

                      These people are playing for keeps. There's no generous pension waiting for them when they retire. I promise you that the food cart was not the target of the action. It's known as collateral damage in the parlance of our times. You must have heard the expression before. It refers to any schlub that finds himself in the crossfire.

                    12. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                      There you go again with that false equivalence. You probably don't believe in concepts like good and evil.eother, do you?

                    13. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

                      Mtrue, there is no equivalence here no matter how desperate you are to find it.

      2. Tionico   7 years ago

        a federal police force actually DOING the job they are assigned by the US Constitution.. unlike the drug war coppers, BATF, TSA, NLRB.... FedGov are assigned the task of keeping our borders secure, and that means enforcing existing laws relating to who can come in and on what basis, and finding those who are not supposed to be here and dealing with them. These laws have been on the books for decades, and everyone seems to have ignored that fact. The previosu three administratioins also separated children from their adult co-travellers. Anyone here read the stats on what percentages of these "accompanied minor children" are 1) not minor children, 2) not related to the adult escorts 3) active members of gangs with roots in Central America 4) individuals with prior serious felony crimes in their record.

        Recent actions in a largish sanctuary city netted some two thousand illegals.. some 90+% of them past criminals, multiple illegal entry violators, wanted indicted criminals, probation/parole violators, gang members, smugglers, sexual predators..... and you WANT this sort of people coming here by the thousands to take up residence and eat up OUR substance, we who have worked hard for it?

        1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

          a federal police force actually DOING the job they are assigned by the US Constitution

          Is that true? Some would argue that the term "federal police force" is directly at odds with the constitution.

  5. Ron   7 years ago

    Some people won't tolerate being shut down. Deny a person the right to make a living is the same as denying them food hence harm and people have the right to defend themselves from harm.

    1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

      Deny a person the right to make a living

      No it's not. They can just move the fucking food truck to another location.

  6. Don't look at me.   7 years ago

    Straight out of the Nazi playbook. LOL at the irony.

    1. Azathoth!!   7 years ago

      They're fascists being fascists. There's no irony.

    2. mtrueman   7 years ago

      Nazis attacked Jews and communists. Not police.

      1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

        Fascists attacked those who opposed their policies. Think Italy, not Germany.
        And oh by the way any one who did not support them opposed them. Sound familiar?

        1. mtrueman   7 years ago

          Italian fascists never attacked police, either. One attacks enemies, not allies.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            The police aren't being attacked here, either. The people who will serve police are being attacked.

            1. Mock-star   7 years ago

              Who is to say that the foodcart operators werent undercover cops. You cant prove they werent!!
              /mtrueman, doing what he does.

            2. mtrueman   7 years ago

              "The police aren't being attacked here, either. "

              A federal police HQ was occupied. Anarchist tactics through and through.

              1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                Imagine being this guy

              2. MarkLastname   7 years ago

                By that logic the Beer Hall Putch was an anarchist demonstration.

                Tip for you trueman: just because you're being pedantic doesn't mean you're right, even technically; indeed being pedantically wrong seems to be your forte.

                1. mtrueman   7 years ago

                  Occupying a police HQ is in line with anarchist tactics. I don't know why you insist otherwise. You won't find fascists or maoists doing these kinds of actions.

                  1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                    Do anarchists also assault businesses for....doing business?

                    1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

                      Yes. This type of anarchists at least.

                    2. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      "Do anarchists also assault businesses for....doing business?"

                      No. For giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

                  2. Freddy the Jerk   7 years ago

                    I'll take "What was the Reichstag fire" for $100 please, Alex

                  3. DenverJ   7 years ago

                    Sure. ""The Jew" was a "negative aspect" that had to be "eradicated," Goebbels wrote in 1929. He viewed the Jews as simultaneously embodying capitalism, communism, the press and the police... As the head of Berlin's Nazis, Goebbels chose Bernhard Weiss, the Jewish deputy chief of the city's police force, as a target of his anti-Semitic agitation. Goebbels nicknamed him "Isidore" and, after Weiss sued Goebbels for libel and won, he called him "Weiss, whom one isn't allowed to call Isidore." Goebbels derided Weiss's police officers as "Bernhardiner" ("St. Bernard dogs") and "Weiss guardsmen... Five days after Hitler's speech at the Clou, the police banned the Nazi Party in Berlin." - cite
                    The police never defend the current regime against the revolution, right?

                    1. mtrueman   7 years ago

                      "The police never defend the current regime against the revolution, right?"

                      The police typically lean conservative. Their default is anti or counter revolutionary. The military is typically more flexible.

                    2. Deconstructed Potato   7 years ago

                      Don't cops vote how the union tells them to vote?

              3. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                Pamtofa is backed by Soros.

      2. Hattori Hanzo   7 years ago

        Nazis attacked anyone and everyone. Including other Nazis as Rohm found out.

        1. mtrueman   7 years ago

          "Nazis attacked anyone and everyone."

          They never occupied federal immigrant police HQs. They attacked their enemies, not their allies.

          1. VinniUSMC   7 years ago

            Wow, keep moving those goal posts.

            1. mtrueman   7 years ago

              The people occupying the ICE HQ are not nazis or maoists. By their actions, I'd say they were anarchists.

              1. Freddy the Jerk   7 years ago

                I'll take "What was the Reichstag fire" for $100 please, Alex

                1. Mark Question   7 years ago

                  A Dutch Communist burned down the Reichstag, not the Nazi's. The notion that it was a false flag operation by the Nazi's has been roundly rejected by historical consensus. Your quote isn't as funny as you think it is.

      3. MarkLastname   7 years ago

        These aren't police, they're foodvsrt operators. And the Nazis attacked plenty others than Jews and communists. They murdered political dissidents (or suspected ones) quite generally, up to and including other Nazis (heard of the night of long knives?)

        As usual you're both wrong and irrelevant.

        1. mtrueman   7 years ago

          The occupation of a federal police HQ is anarchist tactics. Not Maoist, Fascist or Trumpist.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   7 years ago

            But what do you call someone who attacks a business who uses the proceeds to help the homeless?

            1. Nardz   7 years ago

              Kulak.

              Antifa uses a combination of fascist and communist symbolism and imagery. To the extent they advocate FOR anything, it's for the state to crack down on certain people and redistribute wealth to others. Other than controlling national borders, they propose the state as fixer and ask for it to exercise more - not less - power.

              Antifa are totalitarian socialists dressing up as anarchists

              1. mtrueman   7 years ago

                "Antifa are totalitarian socialists dressing up as anarchists"

                I would have thought Portland is the place to look for anarchists in action, and this is the kind of action anarchists are noted for. But you are telling me these are actually totalitarian socialists pretending to be anarchists. Know your enemy is the only advice I can offer.

              2. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

                Kulakism is the common theme of Nazis and Commies.

              3. Deconstructed Potato   7 years ago

                Do not they also claim to be "anti-authoritarian"?

                The ironing is delicious.

            2. mtrueman   7 years ago

              The homeless donations are incidental. They are attacked because they are providing food to the enemy. It's as simple as that.

            3. mtrueman   7 years ago

              "But what do you call someone who attacks a business who uses the proceeds to help the homeless?"

              Robin Hood?

              1. Naaman Brown   7 years ago

                Hunh?
                The business used their proceeds to help the homeless.
                Occupy ICE attacked the business and forced them to shut down.
                How exactly did Occupy ICE act as Robin Hood?

                1. mtrueman   7 years ago

                  "How exactly did Occupy ICE act as Robin Hood?"

                  Never claimed it did. Question was what do you call someone who attacks someone and uses the proceeds to help the poor.

      4. TeamsterX   7 years ago

        Which is it? Are you an angry Nazi, Communist or Fascists?

        1. mtrueman   7 years ago

          Can you tell the difference?

  7. DiegoF   7 years ago

    Most of these types I have seen would do well with a commitment to Occupy WATER.

    1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      Cement shoes?

      1. DiegoF   7 years ago

        I was thinking more showering. Let's not get carried away here; I'm not loveconstitution.

        1. Bearded Spock   7 years ago

          That was my first thought.

          Years ago at an Idaho freeway rest stop I ran into some Rainbow Family members on their way back to Oregon.

          To describe their smell as "overpowering" would be an understatement.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   7 years ago

          Well they think Trump is literally Hitler. So they are probably afraid to go near a shower.

          1. Bearded Spock   7 years ago

            *golfclaps*

            8/10

          2. Iheartskeet   7 years ago

            Truly well done.

          3. TeamsterX   7 years ago

            Kudos!

      2. Uncle Adolf's Gas and Grill   7 years ago

        Occupy a Casket would be the most worthwhile thing these morons could do.

        1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

          Trump should have the Oregon National Guard deal with them. Kent State times a thousand.

          1. Deconstructed Potato   7 years ago

            These people are looking to provoke violent confrontations. I'm not sure it's a sound idea to give them one on that scale.

          2. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

            Leave it to republicans to paint Kent State as a GOOD thing.

            1. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

              Sometimes, when they force your hand, you just have to shoot the murderous commie scum.

  8. Eddy   7 years ago

    Again - John seems to have hit the nail on the head in saying that the 2nd Amendment can be justified as a defense against threatening mobs - it's not necessary to limit our consideration to self-defense against tyrannical government agents.

    It's hardly any wonder that those who are politically affiliated with these mobs, and rely on them to do their dirty work, want to keep firearms out of the hands of the mob's potential victims. And if they can't do that, they will try to put the victims in prison if they defend themselves.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   7 years ago

      I'd say that a threatening mob demanding you support them constitutes tyranny as well.

    2. Enjoy Every Sandwich   7 years ago

      According to the KGW article, the food cart operators are saying that the Portland Police wouldn't help them. If this is true, I would consider that government tyranny. Placing citizens outside of the protection of the law and leaving them at the mercy of a mob sounds plenty tyrannical to me.

      1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

        Time for a DOJ investigation of the Portland police. I'm sure many of them belong in prison.

      2. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

        "the food cart operators are saying that the Portland Police wouldn't help them."

        Everywhere the Left is in power, they remove police protection from those attacked by their street thugs.

        When those attacked are Leftists who have supported such tactics against the Right, I splooge.

        1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

          The other possibility is that maybe -- just maybe -- the police investigated and found that there was no evidence of threats of violence. It's difficult to surmise the truth from one-sided accounts of things.

          1. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

            Nope. The police are following orders from their progtard bosses.

    3. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

      No. Shooting protesters is a bad idea. Every reasonable 2nd amendment advocate will tell you that the first thing you should do is leave the situation, not come out guns blazin'.

      The food truck operators did the right thing. They left the situation, peacefully, until shit blows over. Just like everyone else in the vicinity of the protests. The beauty of a food truck is that you can drive it somewhere else.

      1. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

        They aren't protesters anymore when they unlawfully imprison people or threaten them with force for not caving in to their demands.

  9. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

    The best way to fight fascism is to dress in black shirts and throw rocks through storefronts.

    1. Bearded Spock   7 years ago

      "Are we the baddies?"

      1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

        I adore Mitchell and Webb.

        1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

          The original sketch that line was from.....

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qv2XGQBcvxQ

  10. Libertymike   7 years ago

    Those who feed a fascist are fascists themselves!

    1. Eddy   7 years ago

      Are you insulting the parents of these demonstrators?

      1. Libertymike   7 years ago

        No, but the principle could be applied to them, could it not?

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

          You can't apply principles to any of these people.

          1. perlchpr   7 years ago

            That's demonstrably not true. The principles of fundamental mechanics would certainly work on them.

      2. sarcasmic   7 years ago

        Demonstrators don't have parents. They reproduce by fission. Like other bacteria.

        1. Social Justice is neither   7 years ago

          More contagion. Like a zombie plague.

          1. sarcasmic   7 years ago

            Braaaiiinns! We have none! Braaaiiinns!

            1. Eddy   7 years ago

              At least zombies are aware of their need for brains.

        2. wingnutx   7 years ago

          Demonstrators are not potatoes.

          1. Deconstructed Potato   7 years ago

            You're damn right.

    2. TeamsterX   7 years ago

      Irony is they shutdown a food cart that donated for out of work fascists.

  11. creech   7 years ago

    Gee, maybe plant an undercover officer on the food cart who can witness the terroristic threats to kill the daughter, burn the food cart?

    1. darkflame   7 years ago

      According to KGW (linked in the article above) the cops refused to help. Not surprising, kinda like the Berkley cops with Antifa, the Portland cops also support a political agenda.

      1. Agammamon   7 years ago

        I'm not a fan of ICE, but you'd think they could have stepped in here. They're still LEO's.

        1. Bearded Spock   7 years ago

          They're Federal cops with limited jurisdiction, and threats to the food cart would be primarily a local issue.

          Besides, if the locals aren't willing to help them out I don't think the average ICE agent would want to threaten his retirement by starting a riot when he slaps the cuffs on a demonstrator.

          1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

            I joke about putting traitor cities like Portland under martial law, but it will probably become necessary sooner than later. This shit can't be allowed.

            1. TeamsterX   7 years ago

              Now no martial law, just expand ICE's capabilities to keep them in ala Escape from New York or LA.

              1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                Maybe send in those bikers from NY who broke up that hippie flag burning a few years ago. I'll bet those Antifa pukes scatter in about a minute flat if those dudes show up.

        2. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

          I'm not a fan of ICE, but you'd think they could have stepped in here. They're still LEO's.

          I don't believe that's true. I recall Reason posting an article about a year ago about how they are not classified as "police" (and why they shouldn't wear uniforms that suggest they're "police").

      2. Qsl   7 years ago

        the cops refused to help

        Surprised an equal protection lawsuit hasn't made its way out of this.

        Of course you'd have essentially an accessory to federal law enforcement suing the state police under the auspices of a civil rights act against a proxy claiming to be fighting for civil rights. And in tolerant Oregon of all places. I'm shocked anything more came of this besides apprehension law enforcement enjoys Funyuns as much as the protestors do.

        The world is getting too weird.

        1. Rossami   7 years ago

          An equal protection lawsuit would go exactly nowhere. Per Supreme Court precedent (Warren 1981, DeShaney 1989 and Castle Rock 2005 among others), the police have no duty to protect citizens and (absent a few protected classes) have near-complete discretion which laws to enforce and when.

          1. Qsl   7 years ago

            Iffy.

            Per the cases listed nothing addresses equal protection specifically, and absolutely none included another federal law enforcement office, even as an adjunct. I'd be willing to roll the dice on those odds.

  12. lafe.long   7 years ago

    When the narrative is "Ripping children from their parents' arms!!!", or "Trump Administration's Anti-Immigration Jihad" you can't honestly be surprised when Anti-ICE make threats like that, and then people go out of business because of it.

    See also: "You MUST bake that cake"

    1. DiegoF   7 years ago

      Ripping children from their parents' arms!!!

      In their defense, you can see why this plays to a visceral fear the protesters live with in the backs of their minds.

      (In the spirit of Eddie.)

    2. TeamsterX   7 years ago

      Actually, funnier is that it is Customs and Border Patrol, "Ripping Children from their parents Arms", not ICE...but I guess ICE is better and the other is too long for a hashtag.

    3. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

      One would think that Antifa would just shrug when the children are taking. Chalking it up to retroactive abortions.

  13. Arcxjo   7 years ago

    The Tolerant Left

  14. bevis the lumberjack   7 years ago

    These are Kirkland's elite who believe in reason and tolerance and science and education.

  15. NoVaNick   7 years ago

    So these idiots cannot find real jobs in Portland? Oh right, they are trustafarians living off mom and dad.

  16. DiegoF   7 years ago

    According to Scott Hakes, the last straw came when protestors threatened his 21-year-old daughter for serving food to a DHS employee. "If they catch her outside the cart, they're going to hurt her. They're constantly cussing at her and screaming at her," he told KGW. According to the owners, protestors also threatened to burn down the cart.

    Not to dismiss any of that--I sure as fuck never have gone through it--but I think these folks are made of less stout stuff than food cart operators elsewhere. I think protesters would just get a gloriously incoherently accented "Fuck off, motherfuckers" from NYC food carters, father and daughter alike. And from what I remember on the TV in '92, L.A. would probably greet them with a view up a shotgun barrel if they actually tried anything.

    1. NoVaNick   7 years ago

      See Hard Hat Riot
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot

      1. DiegoF   7 years ago

        Well, as for L.A., hopefully any topical reaction to the ICE Latino immigration protesters would remain targeted at the dirty hippies and not erupt into more general ugliness as with the Zoot Suit Riots, whose ugly legacy was still visible more than a half century later.

    2. wingnutx   7 years ago

      Portland has Roof Koreans?

  17. Rich   7 years ago

    Occupy ICE PDX ... succeeded in shutting down ICE's Portland office for a week

    Serious question: How is this possible? I thought IC *Enforcement* has *weapons*!

    1. Agammamon   7 years ago

      To be fair - they're only used to shooting at Mexicans on the other side of the border line who've thrown rocks at them.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

      Look, leave them alone. The left has finally found a federal agency they don't like. Don't interfere with your enemy when he's making a mistake.

    3. TeamsterX   7 years ago

      Ever ride Public Transit? I am sure as heck not going to spend 8 hours in that environment, let alone with a 2 hour commute with the same vagrants.

  18. Azathoth!!   7 years ago

    If some of its members adopt such a strict with-us-or-against-us stance that they are willing to harass a business' employees just for serving food to their protest's target, that can only damage public sympathy for a laudable cause.

    Occupy ICE is not and has no 'laudable goals'.

    THIS is a laudable goal--

    The two used the proceeds to help fund their non-profit Off The Grid, which supplies food and clothing to Portland's homeless population.

    Learn the difference.

    1. Muzzled Woodchipper   7 years ago

      Someone finally said it.

      Thanks for restoring my hope in Reasonistas.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

      If only homeless people would get off the grid. They're more on the grid than I am.

    3. Joe Emenaker   7 years ago

      Whenever people (or, especially, companies) draw attention to their altruism, I start to question the motives of their altruism.

    4. TeamsterX   7 years ago

      The irony is when they go to get food and new rags from Off the Grid...they will find they have cut off their own bread and butter.

  19. sarcasmic   7 years ago

    Portland... there is more than one, and they are both liberal hell holes. Be specific.

    1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      Leave Portland, Maine alone!

      1. sarcasmic   7 years ago

        Why?

        1. DiegoF   7 years ago

          Because it is anything but a "hellhole" by state standards. You are obviously not familiar with the outwardly idyllic but horrifyingly evil dystopias of Castle Rock or its far more violent counterpart, Cabot Cove.

          1. sarcasmic   7 years ago

            Oh yeah. I forgot about those documentaries by that King guy.

            1. Eddy   7 years ago

              Don't forget Jerusalem's Lot.

              1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

                Or Derry.

      2. MarkLastname   7 years ago

        I'll maine with whomever I damn well please.

        1. Eddy   7 years ago

          When you take your bride on her honeymoon, you're going to Bangor?

    2. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

      The one that makes national news on the reg.

  20. Rockabilly   7 years ago

    But it was a totally gay ICE agent who requested a totally gay wedding cake !!!

    1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      Specifically, they asked for gay ICEing, as a work of art.
      The cake did not ask, the cake did not tell.

      1. DiegoF   7 years ago

        Well, there was that sheriff of Pima County AZ, the county south of Maricopa County (and which actually contains the City of Maricopa; weird) who is an ultra hard line grandstanding Arpaio mini-me protege who ran for Congress twice, but whose voters could not get past the fact that his Grindr profile had exposed his illegal Mexican boyfriend. He did win re-election though.

        1. Dylboz   7 years ago

          You got most of the facts wrong in your comment. For instance, the county you are talking about is Pinal County, which is north of Pima and South of Maricopa. Paul Babeu served 2 terms as Sheriff of Pinal County, but he chose to seek the office of Representative for Arizona's 4th Congressional District first in 2012, stepping down in May to successfully pursue re-election as sheriff when it became clear he would not win the primary; then again in 2016 in what is now CD1, a bid he lost to Democrat Tom O'Halleran after running a very pro-Trump campaign that easily won him the Republican primary. His sexual orientation and the accusations that arose from a bad breakup were barely a blip in the 2012 campaign, and he was quickly cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter. His sexual orientation was not really a factor in the 2016 race (and probably would have worked in his favor if it was). Basically, CD1 is way bigger than Pinal County, encompassing large areas of reservation land and left-leaning hippy towns like Sedona and Flagstaff. He just wasn't a viable candidate outside the county, where his Republican successor won handily.

          1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

            Pinal County has an Eegees now and is so now worthy of notice and power.

          2. DiegoF   7 years ago

            I got the Pima/Pinal thing mixed up, which is certainly a biggie. And I didn't know the breakup wasn't a big deal. I did know his CD was far bigger than his county, which would be the only way to explain his easy re-election after he pulled out of the Congressional race. I certainly didn't think his gayness was a big deal to anyone; I just thought his affair (and alleged abuse of power) with an illegal was.

  21. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

    Is there any way we can tie the IRS and the ATF to "separating kids" at the border?

  22. Longtobefree   7 years ago

    "Portland Food Cart Shuts Down Following Harassment by Occupy ICE Protesters"

    More like 'Portland Food Cart Shuts Down Following criminal threats of domestic terrorism by Occupy ICE Protesters'

    1. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

      Leftist jurisdictions collaborate with their street terrorists.

      If a few leftist do-gooders didn't get the memo that political power is job one, they will be taught until comprehension improves.

  23. Brandybuck   7 years ago

    A baker who refuses to do business with a group of people: Evil.

    A food truck who refuses to do business with a group of people: Woke progressive.

    The progtards protesting teh food truck need to remember that it's illegal for the food truck NOT to serve people once they hang out their shingle.

  24. Eddy   7 years ago

    This is interesting.

    It seems there's a Portland ordinance against discrimination in "public accommodations" based on "source of income," defined as

    "the means by which a person supports himself or herself and his or her dependents, including but not limited to money and property from any occupation, profession or activity, from any contract, settlement or agreement, from federal or state payments, court-ordered payments, gifts, bequests, annuities, life insurance policies, and compensation for illness or injury, but excluding any money or property derived in a manner made illegal or criminal by any law, statute or ordinance."

    Could someone translate this and tell us if this food-truck vendor could get in trouble under this ordinance by refusing to serve ICE people?

    1. DiegoF   7 years ago

      If a Portlander wanted to fuck over the ICE, he should make their food with deadly toxic fluoridated water that he smuggled in from outside city limits.

  25. Empress Trudy   7 years ago

    Ideologically it's hard to tease out what Reason would ordinarily say their opinion of this is. It is, more or less the unfettered absolutely free market, no?

    1. KevinP   7 years ago

      Death threats are not the unfettered absolutely free market, no?

      1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

        As soon as the one making the threats is killed, and their head put up outside the business, it can be free market.

        1. MJBinAL   7 years ago

          nothing wrong with these fascist progs that a couple of men with belt fed shotguns couldn't fix in a few minutes.

  26. DrZ   7 years ago

    There has to be a better way. Those who are not going to go into the Democrat-socialist fold peacefully need to be sent to indoctrination camps. Those who aren't "fixed" by these camps need to be sentenced to a life of hard labor.

    I mean the dissidents have to be put in their place if we are ever going to have a peaceful socialist country.

  27. Rossami   7 years ago

    It's always a sad day when protestors become worse thugs than the people they are protesting.

  28. TeamsterX   7 years ago

    Hypothetically....If someone made a MAGA hat blimp and flew it over this crowd and then straight over a cliff....

    Would it be like watching Lemmings wearing tie dye t-shirts?

    1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

      Someone from ICE should go TP the
      Roof of their building with a loudspeaker and start broadcasting Trump campaign speeches 24/7 at those Antifa scumbags.

      1. Elias Fakaname   7 years ago

        On an endless loop.

  29. jm15xy   7 years ago

    Liberal neutrality is a sham.

  30. DaveKunard   7 years ago

    I really don't have a problem with this. I've often thought that it's not just a matter of cop blocking, but of putting social pressure on people who call cops, defend them, etc.

    This really isn't that different. I'm not in favor of threats, and I'm sure some people took it over the line, but it's incorporating protest of those who do business with, which is a legitimate part of boycotting and economic protest.

    1. JP88   7 years ago

      "I'm not in favor of threats ... but ..." There is no BUT! They threatened to burn the food cart down. There is no coming back from that.

      Spoken like a true fascist sympathizer.

      1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

        Can you prove that they threatened to burn the food cart down? A police report was never filed, which is a little unusual if there were truly threats of bodily harm.

        The snowflakes who run the cart were scared I'm sure. I'm guessing there's a little bit of embellishment going on here. When you get only one side of the story, that tends to happen.

        1. Last of the Shitlords   7 years ago

          So they're "snowflakes" if they are worried for their physical safety and that of their daughter after threats of violence?

          Also, your 'guesses' are worthless dogshit. Just like those Antifa losers who threatened those people.

          1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

            Your argument is circular. I asked if you could prove that they threatened violence. Your response is to just reiterate that they threatened violence.

  31. buybuydandavis   7 years ago

    "Julie was initially supportive of the Occupy ICE protest when it started, according to comments she made the Willamette Week. But the Hakes' attempt to "stay neutral and serve all who are hungry," including ICE and other Department of Homeland Security (DHS) staff who share the Portland office space, provoked anger from some anti-ICE demonstrators, who reportedly threatened staff at the food cart for failing to get on board with the struggle. "

    It's hard to have much respect for Leftists. They're all for Leftist "by any means necessary" until it turns against them. Then they're shocked, SHOCKED, that such things exist.

    I love their squeals of terror as the crocodile they've bred and fed turns on them.

  32. NashTiger   7 years ago

    LAUDABLE GOALS my sweet ass

    God I hate this place and the Woketarians who occupy it

    1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      When out numbered and nearly surrounded, a tactical retrograde movement is always in order.
      I hear Idaho is nice this time of year.

  33. vek   7 years ago

    Good! The left needs to just keep eating itself and pushing people that were on their own side away! That's ALWAYS a winning strategy, right???

  34. Miter Broller   7 years ago

    Wow, the tolerant and inclusive generation is really showing their true colors.

  35. JP88   7 years ago

    "The Portland protest started as a focused demonstration against punitive immigration enforcement in general and the administration's reprehensible family separation policy in particular."
    Source?

    "and shared by a right-wing Twitter account"
    Why add this sentence? To undermine the actual video as being somehow less authentic? I do not understand why ti matters who shared the video.

    1. Naaman Brown   7 years ago

      A lot of people share stuff for unfathomable reasons. It's the internet.

  36. majil   7 years ago

    People need to start arming themselves and protecting their workers and livelihood.

  37. rdlynch   7 years ago

    Expel the anti-ICE fascists from our country; they obviously do not deserve the protection of our laws.

    1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

      Three pieces of irony in only two sentences. I'm impressed.

  38. Tionico   7 years ago

    that can only damage public sympathy for a laudable cause.

    I trust you mean the laudable cause of doing their constitutinal duty to protect our borders against foreign invaders, right?

    I do NOT want to live under the conditions now evident in \Germany, France, England, Sweden....... where those who have lived there for generations are under constant serious threat of signficant bodily harm, their property, freedom to move about as before unmolested, and to see their tax dollars better spent......

    If you want to see a nation without ICE or equivalent, go visit those countries I just named... and by visit I mean get off the tourist track and SEE the place. Or at least read the numbers for rapes, housebreakings, killings, sexual assault, rioting, beatings, wanton destruction (Hmm... we've seen those last three right in Portland, haven't we?

    I'd like to see some real investigative reporting on just WHOSE MONEY is behind all the "disturbances" in Portland in the past, oh, lets say two years. Learn where those protestors lived a year ago, and WHO paid them to come to Portland and cause disruption.

    If I were this cart's owners I'd be demanding police protection and if refused, add the coppers to the lawsuit for the threats and economic harms done. Whatever happened to the Constitutional birthright we all have to freely associate (or NOT associate) as WE choose? Those people have the RIGHT to serve their food to whoever they so desire.

    1. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

      where those who have lived there for generations are under constant serious threat of signficant bodily harm, their property, freedom to move about as before unmolested, and to see their tax dollars better spent......

      Sounds like you're describing ICE.

      f you want to see a nation without ICE or equivalent, go visit those countries I just named... and by visit I mean get off the tourist track and SEE the place. Or at least read the numbers for rapes, housebreakings, killings, sexual assault, rioting, beatings, wanton destruction (Hmm... we've seen those last three right in Portland, haven't we?

      Every single one of those countries are safer to live in than the United States. This isn't opinion. This is fact. The numbers bear this out.

  39. JunkScienceIsJunk   7 years ago

    Protest is fine as long as it's not too disruptive. Got it. Reminds me of Edith Bunker saying she favored capital punishment, as long as it wasn't too severe.

    Note that there's no evidence of threats of violence. One would think they'd have reported such a thing to the police.

  40. _Nobody_   7 years ago

    Hey, Antifa... do you understand the definition of fascism?

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