John McAfee and Porn Star Cherie* DeVille Running for President in 2020, Maybe as Libertarians
The antivirus-software pioneer is flying the crypto flag, while the adult actress is running on weed, Net Neutrality, and #MeToo.

John McAfee, the third-place finisher in the Libertarian Party's 2016 presidential nominating process, announced on Sunday that he is running for the White House again in 2020, either with the L.P. or some crypto-tastic new political grouping:
In spite of past refusals, I have decided to again run for POTUS in 2020. If asked again by the Libertarian party, I will run with them. If not, I will create my own party. I believe this will best serve the crypto community by providing the ultimate campaign platform for us.
— John McAfee (@officialmcafee) June 3, 2018

The 72-year-old McAfee, for whom the word "colorful" is comically inadequate (to see why, read these three Brian Doherty pieces: one, two, three), has since his previous run become a for-profit evangelist for competitive currencies. His candidacy, notes the crypto-focused Toshi Times, "coincides with the physical cryptocurrency he has announced, called the 'McAfee Redemption Unit' (MRU)." CNET reports that McAfee was already generating headlines recently "by announcing the creation of his own crypto-backed fiat currency that is redeemable for up to 100 minutes of facetime with him, as well as in February for revealing he made $105,000 per tweet promoting crypto projects." (McAfee said Friday that he was no longer charging money for promotions or tweets.)
"Had I been more connected with the [crypto] community in 2016," McAfee tweeted over the weekend, "I believe I could have used the debates and campaign trail to change the crypto landscape for the better. In this run I can make 'Currency Independence' a phrase that is on every [American's] lips."
Despite McAfee's late-career arrival to both electoral politics and movement libertarianism, his swagger and Vegas-style entourage definitely turned heads at the Libertarian Party National Convention two years ago (for more on which see the video at the bottom of this post). But the 2020 L.P. field is already starting to fill up, not just with 2016 vice presidential nominee Bill Weld and trouble-skirting anarchist Adam Kokesh, but with a maybe-L.P./maybe-not character even more speculative than McAfee: Porn star Cherie DeVille.
DeVille, who first made headlines last November about a possible White House run with Coolio (since abandoned), re-surfaced with a video last week promising an "honest, successful, and progressive political campaign":
As both the video and Elizabeth Nolan Brown attest, DeVille is "a mixed bag as far as libertarian leanings go." But in a follow-up Washington Examiner interview, the actress, who describes herself as a "left-leaning libertarian," said she is considering the L.P., even though she "would love to be the Democratic candidate," because "clearly my views align with the Democratic Party the best." DeVille, whose non-stage name is the equally delightful Carolyn Paparozzi, also told the Examiner that she's fond of Reason, so points for that.
Will the fame and charisma of DeVille and McAfee make Libertarians swoon? Don't count on it. Gary Johnson can certainly testify that more familiarity with the L.P. does not necessarily translate into more support—the former New Mexico governor waltzed to the L.P presidential nomination in 2012, but then needed a second ballot in 2016. McAfee stepped on some L.P. toes with his withering post-nomination criticism of Johnson, and with the opening lines of his concession speech at that convention: "When I first joined the Libertarian Party, two things stood out, very starkly," he said then. "One, 75 percent of you are men. Number two, 99.8 percent of you are white. Shame on you. Shame on you."
Say what you will about Bill Weld or Adam Kokesh (or New York gubernatorial candidate Larry Sharpe), they are out there working the Libertarian Party state convention circuit pretty hard. With that unique 50-state ballot-access prize, at a national moment in which the identities of the two biggest political parties are remarkably fluid, it seems unlikely that party activists will take too kindly to candidates flirting openly with other parties.
As Ballot Access News Editor and third-party super-expert Richard Winger told the Examiner, "Libertarians will not nominate anyone for president who hasn't run first for a lesser office, unless they are a former congressmember or a former governor." Also: "In 2016 there were over 1,300 people who told the FEC that they were running for president….People who think they can get attention by running for president are usually unaware of what a mob claims to be running for president."
My interview with John McAfee at the L.P. national convention two years ago:
* Was originally "Cynthia."
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It's always been difficult to get rid of McAfee.
I wonder why the Libertarian Party is never taken seriously at a national level?
If you think Gary Johnson making faces and fumbling on an Aleppo question was harmful to the party, just wait until you see what McAfee would do if he got national coverage.
Imagine McAfee saying some crazy shit like grabbing women by the pussy or claiming the President was born in Kenya or what a great job the Chinese government did cracking down on protestors at Tiananmen Square. I'm laughing now just thinking about it.
Or being the LP candidate and saying people should be forced to participate in gay weddings and gun rights are kind of embarrassing and something to be bargained away for important things. Imagine that.
How Gary Johnson was ever taken seriously by anyone is beyond me.
How Gary Johnson was ever taken seriously by anyone is beyond me.
As a New Mexican, all I can say is, he really was a damn fine governor. He did a very good job of improving the business environment and the overall financial status of the state.
I dunno what happened to him between then and now, but...
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Gary Johnson was a mess, but he'd probably be better than Trump.
Really? Because Trump has been pretty good so far.
Depends on what you mean by "pretty good." By my libertarian standards, he's bad like mostly every other president, but just not as bad as he could've been. My biggest pet peeve is him not doing a damn thing about the many stupid wars we're engaged in. In fact, this dick sucking of our military is annoying. Money and blood (both of our men and women and innocents caught in the crossfire) is being shed everyday, and it sickens me.
I think that Gary Johnson probably wouldn't have approved those fucking bombings and missile strikes. I think GJ would probably attempt to convince Congress (in vain, sadly) to reduce the Pentagon's budget. I think GJ would probably attempt a withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. He wouldn't do everything I'd like as he's not a radical, but I think he'd be better than Trump.
Johnson would've done shit about regulations. Plain and simple.
Under Trump, the military appears to have largely crushed ISIS, without sending droves of ground troops in. I call that a win. I'm not sure what the deal is with Afghanistan. The onlyy reason to stay would be something that no one wants to reveal to the general public.
He is also making some headway with NK. I highly doubt Hillary, or GJ would have gotten even this far.
ISIS is a wholly owned subsidiary of western (NATO + Saudi) intelligence. This has been publicly admitted in DIA documents FOIA'd by Judicial Watch, and obvious to any reader of international news publications.
That's nothing. What if McAfee started claiming the NSA spies on American citizens?
Then the media would mysteriously discover all the skeletons in his closet.
Or vote for the Invasion of Iraq
If you think Gary Johnson making faces and fumbling on an Aleppo question was harmful to the party,
I don't think that was his biggest problem
If you think Gary Johnson making faces and fumbling on an Aleppo question was harmful to the party,
I don't think that was his biggest problem
the Reason squirrels are why libertarians are never taken seriously, fyi
Don't fuck with the squirrels Iap83. Do not fuck with them. You can only shift worlds so many times.
Indeed.......
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MziwbQv9zQ0
This is the best they can do.
Libertarians 2016: You cannot do worse than Johnson/Weld.
Libertarians 2020: Hold my beer...
Considering the time and effort I've put into scraping McAfee off various personal and customer PC's, I'm pretty sure he owes me money. I'm willing to accept PayPal.
"I'm willing to accept PayPal"
As your personal savior?
Just switch to Linux, no antivirus needed!
Is this the future Libertarians want?
Yes. Though that picture is also an image of the Kennedy White House.
Well, he already is president in at least one dimension.
The man jacked off while doing coke in the Oval Office during a live filming session. That spectacle convinced the nation to advance at a rapid pace to match McAfee's impressive hand strokes.
I miss home.
McAfee was the most purely libertarian candidate of 2016. The man truly gives no fucks.
If he can get the nomination I would vote for him. I certainly didn't feel inclined to vote for GayJay last year after his slipshod campaign.
last year
Last election, I should have said.
I'd vote for him but
1) I live in Maryland so not a battleground state; so I give the LP candidate my vote to help with ballot access.
2) Something tells me the McAfee campaign will be even more slipshod; he just might be better at taking on the media then nice guy Gary.
3) Have you seen the Netflx doc on him that just came out. That probably won't help him (I have only watched 1/2 of it, but not to flattering).
So Deville is running in favor of a regulatory capture scheme, a guilty until proven innocent movement, and weed (likely regulated to keep the icky profit motive and Big Business at bay). That sounds like a helluva of an appeal to the liberty minded.
She's like a bizarro William Weld.
1 out of three ain't bad?
"Why is nothing being done about guns?"
lol.
But in a follow-up Washington Examiner interview, the actress, who describes herself as a "left-leaning libertarian," said she is considering the L.P., even though she "would love to be the Democratic candidate," because "clearly my views align with the Democratic Party the best."
So, rather than all the right-leaning libertarians who run under the banner of the GOP for convenience and espouse libertarianism as policy, she's running under the banner of libertarianism to espouse leftist ideals as policy?
I'd say she a dumb blond and should stick to porn but she may at least have the dimmest awareness that those days aren't going to go on forever, which puts her slightly above Gary Johnson.
It would have been nice if DeVille had read the Reason articles on net neutrality which exposed the issue as so much hogwash.
That said, I'd vote for either of these people before anyone who will run as a D or R next time. The two major parties suck and have long since passed their sell-by dates.
Deville is essentially running as a Democrat. Being pro-weed is hardly a selling point this late in the game.
Maybe her views will "evolve" but what I'm seeing right now is, she's trash.
Maybe her views will "evolve" but what I'm seeing right now is, she's trash.
Ah crap, her hashtag trashed my tags.
Pretty overt leftist trying to shoehorn herself onto the ticket using the LP brand. I bet despite having starred in all kinds of 'innocent Christian values' porn she's still anti-GOP and has no idea what Operation Chokepoint is/was. McAfee over DeVille in a heartbeat.
As an aside, the student loan thing has reached "guaranteed bailout" status in my mind, it's simply a matter of when
As an aside, the student loan thing has reached "guaranteed bailout" status in my mind, it's simply a matter of when.
Oh yeah, I figured it was just a matter of time. Waiting for Leftists to retake Congress and the POTUS. Then regulatory capture/anoint another round of cronies.
I kind of get that feeling too. It's why I wonder if I should slow down on paying my student loans. I've been paying them aggressively. If it's gonna get wiped it's not to my advantage to do so.
You have a duty to fuck the banks over this, Nick. The banks are the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve is the banks. Fuck 'em. Hard and repeatedly, with vigor and enthusiasm, frequently and at length.
Fuck 'em.
Put the defaulters in debt-bondage then lease 'em out.
There won't be any defaults bud. That's a pipe dream. They will be forgiven.
she probably stared in a movie called Operation chokpoint
That really deserves more love, Ron.
*sigh*
What happened to the days when sex workers were straight-up hardcore free-market types?
A lot of people are retarded and irrational on the topic of NN. HackerNews and Reddit are good representations of panicking to the level of lighting your shit on fire and smearing it all over yourself while spouting nonsense.
Well, at least the campaign commercials should be entertaining.
I'm also a left-leaning libertarian, which is why I'm calling on the Libertarian Party to throw its support behind whoever is the Democratic nominee in 2020. Sort of like Bill Weld did in 2016 when he nearly endorsed Hillary Clinton, but this time it needs to be more forceful and explicit.
Maybe you're not so much left-leaning as fell-over-the -left-rail-and-rolled-down-the-embankment.
Stop making excuses for either POS party and start voting exclusively third-party. I did, and have never looked back. Fuck those guys and their principals over principles. They stand for nothing except their own power.
John McAfee, the third-place finisher in the Libertarian Party's 2016 presidential nominating process
Now that's something to put on your LinkedIn profile.
And the Libertarian party wonders why it's not taken seriously.
Also, how is she a porn star? She looks about 60 and has a horse face.
Rule 32.
And libertarians continue to wonder why there aren't more libertarian women.
Have you looked into Andro-gel as a first line treatment for your cuckiness?
why would libertarian women care about someone scrutinizing the looks of a porn star?
Women in general have to deal with being judged more by their looks than their ability by men who are still cultural/political gatekeepers in many ways.
Any message that the liberty movement has to offer women about being freed from these power structures is somewhat undermined when the first reaction to a woman declaring her intention to run for political office is "Well she's not very pretty."
Except...she's a fucking pornstar and being judged on her sexiness is kind of the point.
Forget it he's rolling.
The stepmom-stepson genre.
Are you wishing for incest Orin to have wider appeal......for a friend?
No thanks.
If i have to choose between coke-snorting, gun shooting, ho'mongering crypto-ponzi crazy rich guys...
and people like, oh, Nicholas Sarwark, Bill Weld, and the "libertarians" of Cato...
(who seem to spend an inordinate amount of their time Catosplaining how awful all the other libertarians are)
I don't think its even a contest. McAfee/Pornstar 2020
I also endorse McAfee.
do you really buy this? the Doc on Netflix was very misleading.
yep
You left out the part where he hired his own police force which all but terrorized a small city in Belize, ran a joke or scam of a pharma startup and may have ordered a murder. Extra bonus, he enjoys a sexual kink that involves excretions, but not the piss kind...which uh yuk.
All of which we'd hear about if he wasn't an L. Because Reason is just the Fox News of libertarianism, and isn't about "Reason" any more.
Corrupt rent seeking third world government (wanted portection money from millionaire), escaped the regulatory hell of FDA, private and consentual relations... minor dispute with neighbor(Hmm)
Nope. He was a rich, paranoid bully who employed criminals who terrorized the locals. And, like I said, he very well may have ordered a killing.
I'd be willing to overlook the literal shit eating if his judgement in other areas of life was good, but it isn't in any respect whatsoever. Dat man he crazy !
Are you really going to pretend that Vohra doesn't deserve criticism? He's a terrible liability to the party.
I see the libertarian party is feeling that 5% of the vote is perhaps too aggressive of a goal.
This.
I find it amusing that Ms. DeVille does not so much as merit a mention in the English Wikipedia, but she does have her own entry in the German Wikipedia, which dutifully and with no apparent sense of irony notes the announcement of her candidacy with Coolio as running mate:
CNN stages fake protest scene on London Bridge
Hmmmmm.
Yeah, it's old, but it's new to me, ok.
Very much like when they unloaded a van full of swastika-emblazoned cartoon Nazis at a rally otherwise bereft of such lunacy, filmed it, and left.
How are these candidates supposed to be more Libertarian-ish than Trump?
Because random-guy-on-street is more libertarian than Trump, so the odds are pretty good that some vapid porn star is (or can be molded to be) more libertarian than Trump.
Phew. At least now I know for certain I won't be voting in 2020.
The internet must be protected?! Isn't "protecting" things how we get ourselves into regulating trouble? How about "The internet must be left alone by the government"?
"[X] must be protected" is how all protection rackets start.
Note to interesting candidates: You're never going to become President as a third-party or independent candidate. Go run in your local House or Senate race as a Libertarian and be as interesting and even controversial as you're trying to be amidst all the other dozens or more running for the White House. Rather than the boring taxidermist running to unseat the nonagenarian who's been dozing off in the Capitol since before Watergate, you'll be the exciting one local press will want to talk to and jaded folks will vote for just because. Then you'll get to launch exciting filibusters from the well of Congress about Medical Pornography! And that will allow you to gain traction to run for the big seat in two to four years...
Still better than Johnson/Weld.
Exactly my thought. A collection of crazy dimwits. For all his faults, Trump is the most libertarian president of my lifetime.
In McAffees case, too much to recount here, but he is batshit crazy at best, someone who ordered a killing at worst.
For the love of god Reasonmag, get a grip.
I responded to the wrong thread.
In response to yours: Nope.
I was not so much praising McAfee and his coadjutor as insulting Johnson and Weld.
someone who ordered a killing at worst.
CIA director material.
If he's ok with it in his private life, just think how extra-ok he will be with power and resources, and a sheen of moral cover.
Trump is the most libertarian president of my lifetime.
You type exceedingly well for a small child.
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I'd love for McAfee to be president. It worked so well in my dimension that the sea people felt threatened enough to start a war against humanity.
Weld and DeVille can go fuck off.
Why is this even an article? A pornstar and a crazy person running for LP for President?
If the intent is to make normal people actively dislike the LP, congrats, mission successful.
Breaking news: Libertarians continue to embarrass themselves.
Libertarian Party.
A serious group.
For realz.
"Richard Winger told the Examiner, "Libertarians will not nominate anyone for president who hasn't run first for a lesser office, unless they are a former congressmember or a former governor."
How is one formerly a governor or congresscritter without having run?
Sad story. McAfee is nuts. A porn star will never be taken seriously. Weld is flat out not a libertarian.
We can all hang out on this site and debate libertarian policy but it's going no where with that field. Best we can do is support libertarian leaning candidates that run with the major parties.
We should remember that the LP has had trouble fielding credible candidates. I voted for Johnson/Weld knowing that Johnson was fairly out of touch and Weld was no libertarian at all. (c'mon, the guy's blatantly anti-2nd Amendment for starters) Anyway, McAfee is is a bit unhinged, but brilliant and more libertarian than most. I'm hoping someone worthy emerges.
A reminder about Bill Weld: http://reason.com/blog/2016/05.....ibertarian
He's changed his positions on those issues. He admits to becoming more libertarian the more he learns and interacts. By 2020 he'll be full blown anarcho-capitalist.
Well, I think this is an excellent development.
Why are the Kochs funding Reason and NOT trying to set up an actual competent and legitimate Libertarian Party?
The clown show is hurting the movement as much as, well, Reason is.
At some point, those that love liberty are going to need to wrestle the party discussion away from the freakin' crazy nut cases that give the party worse than a bad name.
This is where Reason goes off the rails. It's one thing to be dogmatic and hidebound it's another to be silly and irrelevant
Mercedes Carrera is the clear choice for a Libertarian porn star Vice President. Much much hotter(except for her unfortunate rubber tits.)
Still better than Bill Weld.
I will be voting for Cherie DeVille for President. At least when she f*cks us after the election it will be a bit more enjoyable.