San Bernardino Deputy Threatens to 'Create' Charges Against Man Videotaping Him
"I'll create something. Do you understand? You'll go to jail," deputy tells citizen.
A San Bernardino sheriff's deputy did not appreciate a citizen videotaping him during a terse exchange in the sheriff's office, and threatened to arrest the man because of it. When asked on what grounds did the deputy have for making an arrest, the deputy replied, "I'll create something."
Duncan Hicks, a 34-year-old Victorville (Calif.) man, was frustrated by what he perceived as a lack of cooperation from this same San Bernardino County sheriff's deputy and a front desk clerk while he tried to file a domestic incident report. Hicks told the San Bernardino Sun that the deputy and clerk were "rude and irritated," adding, "They refused to even help me and kicked me out, telling me I had to leave."
A short while later, Hicks returned to the station, this time video recording his encounter on his phone.
After taking issue with what he said was incomplete information on the incident report, the unidentified deputy told Hicks, "Duncan, you know what man, I'm about getting tired of you and you're about to go to jail." Hicks naturally objected to that threat, to which the deputy replied, "I'll create something. Do you understand? You'll go to jail. Do you understand that?"
The deputy then claimed that Hicks recording him was against the law, which is not true, a fact confirmed by the sheriff's spokesperson who told the Sun, "there is no rule preventing one from recording video or taking photographs in our lobby."
Watch the incident below, the deputy's threat happens at around the 0:50 mark:
Hicks told the Sun that another sergeant at the station thought the deputy "was probably having a bad day," to which Hicks retorted, "If he did this when he was having a bad day, what's he capable of doing when he's having a terrible day."
Hicks makes a good point. If this deputy—knowing he was being recorded—was so blithely willing to admit he would "create" charges as a means of punishing an inconvenient citizen, it's chilling to think what he would consider doing in a situation with less transparency.
San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said in a statement, "our employees' response to the citizen is not consistent with my expectation of customer service. Additionally, the deputy's responses are not consistent with the interpretation of the law." An administrative investigation into the incident is now underway.
Read more Reason coverage on the "War on Cameras" here.
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What an interesting article. But surely this is local news. And nobody was actually arrested or jailed, right?
*headdesk*
No one has been arrested or jailed yet.
This is local news in the same way the constitution applies locally.
Hopefully there will be at least another 500 comments about sloopy’s mom.
*crosses fingers*
Sloopy’s mom a troll maybe?
Dicks out for Sloopy’s mom?
Done.
*ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPP*
Too late.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
yoooooooooooou
This is how you say it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtnoErKAZqQ
Sparky,
Please quit social signalling how anti-social you are. Please.
“One more celebrity commercial about how evil Donald Trump is will surely change minds.”
“One more campus riot about how evil Milo’s hate speech is will surely change minds.”
“One more comment on Reason about them not covering sloopy’s mom will surely change minds.”
Yeah…. kinda makes sense…
No… this case is completely different.
For one thing, the deputy cruelly declined to sweep out Kicks’ legs from under him, and even more viciosuly, failed to smash his face into ground.
Clearly Hicks’ was treated terribly while sloopy’s mom was treated with love. That’s what makes this story more newsworthy.
If only sloopy’s mom known she was going to be punched by a cop, she’d have had someone take a video and reason could run that.
Yes, we understand your ennui with all of us. You no longer need to express it as much, thanks.
Fuck that. If everyone is going to signal then I’m getting in on the action.
But this is important local news. Because reasons.
Look, unless something is validated by a legitimate news-source like Buzzfeed or Vox, Reason can’t in good conscience just go reporting just any rumor they hear.
I mean, then everyone could just go claiming that “their mom died” because of Trump or something.
I heard someone’s Muslim grandma died because of Trump. It must be true because Reason covered it.
The real crime is at 2:19. $1.50 for a bag of M&M’s! Crony capitalist fuckers can GTFO!
Its like when Arizona tea has a sticker over the 99 cents on the can.
END THE FED!
You want more Trump articles? Cause this is how you get more Trump articles!
I miss the dog stories.
Here’s an unintentionally funny one from a former Obama security advisor that is so knee deep in TDS that she dreams of military coups.
What does TDS mean?
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Thanks.
Whatever you want it to mean.
Tanned Dames Service….me?
Plz.
Like when I started posting here I interpreted “sf’d” as skull-fucked, and I still read it that way.
Having read an awful lot of his fiction, i can’t say you’re too far off.
Given Reason’s recent bent for re-tweeting as articles, now I kinda wish we had a (hash)tagging system too.
I’m pretty sure I get understand #sloopysmom but have yet to trace it to its origin.
Ticklish Danish Stewardesses
Plz.
go on…
History is hard, OK? And WWII was, like, a hundred years ago, OK?
Japs don’t count, I guess.
That piece reads like the deranged ramblings of someone on tumblr. Shows you that supposedly respectable (as opposed to something like Buzzfeed or Salon) outfits like Foreign Policy or even The Economist are now little more than Team Blue rags.
How deranged do these writers and editors have to be to willingly lose large swaths of customers and money just to signal how Team Blue that they are? You would think that someone at these rags would understand this reality and lay off a bunch of these frothing idiots, but they don’t.
But enough about Reason. 🙂
Well, you assume that their business model, and the personal objectives of their staff would be maximizing their subscriptions.
Given the propensity of governments to reward loyal journalists and editors with sinecures that bestow power and unaccountability to customers, or indeed, the public, I can’t help thinking that said personnel understand precisely what they’re doing.
Also, another lefty who has no idea what 8 years of Obama have done to the morale of the military. Someone here (JohnTitor, I think) posted a link to a rant by an ex-military guy. He stated the military went for Trump 2-to-1, and that it was probably a lot higher for troops on the ground. After 8 years of policies for virtue signalling instead of for combat readiness, I’m a little surprised it wasn’t even higher.
I’m starting to like this Trump fellow.
Thugs gotta thug
We fuck you because we can
The sheriff’s mistake is that he didn’t fuck this guy.
Yeah, he could have shot him, destroyed the phone, and then made up whatever story he wanted. He probably would have still been under “administrative investigation” but there’d be no evidence contradicting his version of events.
Obviously this deputy needs more training. /sarc
Unless the phone automatically uploads video and photos to cloud storage.
Im glad men of such character are our police.
They’re Big Damn Heroes. Truly.
This must be more of that new professionalism Scalia talked about.
The cop didnt even beat the guy nor make him spend the night in jail.
How is this article worthy ?
Video evidence. Always get video evidence.
Always
http://www.foxnews.com/enterta…..ncert.html
The cop didnt even beat the guy nor make him spend the night in jail.
How is this article worthy ?
didn’t even wound the dog…
I live in an extremely rural area. It’s not uncommon at all for people to drive out to my area and drop off unwanted dogs. Several times a year I end up with abandoned dogs on property. I don’t like doing it, but I usually have to end up killing. If I dont, they will start to kill my chickens.
If people just want to get rid of their dogs, I wish they would just drop them off at the police dept at the next town over. There are plenty of people there who apparently enjoy shooting dogs.
That just seems unfathomably cruel to me. I know I couldn’t live with myself if I abandoned my dog. I question the character of someone who can.
It’s a shitty thing to do. Double shitty that it becomes my problem.
“I question the character of someone who can.”
Absolutely. IT is one of those things that is an indictment of someone’s character/ personality/ etc IN TOTO.
I also feel that way about people that just throw trash out the windows of their car…
San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said in a statement, “our employees’ response to the citizen is not consistent with my expectation of customer service.
You don’t tell the customer you’re going to trump up charges. You just do it.
Seriously. i think that’s like Day 1 of training.
You know what else would be a good story about criminal justice? I hear that the mother of one of your commentators on this website was assaulted by police.
Appease the commentariat and write an article. We have grown restless with this publication’s direction, as of late
Hicks retorted, “If he did this when he was having a bad day, what’s he capable of doing when he’s having a terrible day.”
He logs onto Hit’n’Run and posts a bunch of shit as Dunphy.
smooches
*Awards Croix d’ Libertarian Humor, kisses both cheeks in Gallic fashion*
Sadly not unusual.
An administrative investigation into the incident is now underway, starting with questioning why the sheriff did not confiscate and destroy the phone.
San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said in a statement, “our employees’ response to the citizen is not consistent with my expectation of customer service. Additionally, the deputy’s responses are not consistent with the interpretation of the law.” An administrative investigation into the incident is now underway.
One sternly worded vaguely complimentary employee review, coming up!
“Employee demonstrated remarkable restraint in the face of a belligerent suspect.”
“Said restraint is excellent PR for the Department. Deputy is obviously not promotion material, however.”
This seems like a hyper-local news story.
I was just thinking the same exact thing.
I experience this same problem in a Chicago Suburbs when the cops trolled me in my neighborhood for 25 mins in 34 degree weather.
They purposely edited out the volume of them saying unconstitutional and illegal shit in the FOIA dashcam video. They also didn’t turn the dash cam on until i asked about it which already missed a large part of illegal things they claimed.
FYW I am white and from a good neighborhood too so this race shit is 100% bullshit and they also new i was retired “DOD Contractor” so no there is no such thing as white privilege or doesn;t happen in nice neighborhood or they don’t troll retired vets bullshit.
Fuck i hate these pigs
oh also when i first asked if i was detained they instantly got extra hostile and trolled me even more.
Oh you are one of those people he said…you mean someone who wants to have his rights not infringed by dirtbag like you? not those exact words but something close.
i also contacted an attorney about sueing and his exact words were. If you weren’t beaten or shot judges don;t care.
Jesus like wtf? So as long as its only “soft” trolling it is 100% okay. Fuck people really need to go ballistic on these slavers.
Judges don’t want any truck with cops either.
They’re bullies.
Did you fact-check this one, Anthony?
If the police were the noble defenders of the peace they claim to be, this guy would be on the unemployment line today. His colleagues would shun him for disgracing the badge, and the union would politely ask him to leave. Instead, it will get swept under the rug like always because cops are unable to police themselves.
Also, the guy asks for the badge and car number and the cop, despite being a massive dick, gives it. The civilian even got to ‘talk to the manager’ (who’s face/badge number he doesn’t record).
I don’t know everything that transpired before the video, am woefully ignorant of the incident report process in question, and am even sympathetic/biased to a father being denied legal access to his kids by a mother/ex-spouse. However, asked and answered, here’s your reference number. Next.
If the police were the noble defenders of the peace they claim to be, this guy would be on the unemployment line today. His colleagues would shun him for disgracing the badge
*laughs morosely, reaches for bottle*
God lord man it’s not even 2pm! *fist bump*
Some of you are mixing up your terminology, the phrase used to ignore police abuses of power isn’t “local story”, it’s “isolated incident”.
Brian, the backstory to that is the thing about Sloopy’s Mom (see comments in PM Links from 2/1 or AM links from today for links and more info). She was beaten and taken into custody and Reason declined to cover that claiming that it was “too local.” So I was calling them out on their BS.
Or, GMSM’s 1:21 PM comment below.
fair enough
nevermind.
Did someone with Reason actually say local story, or is that supposition?
I for one stand with the Reason editors and their refusal to negotiate with commenters.
According to Sloopy he contacted someone at Reason (who he declined to name) and the phrase “too local” was used.
You have to noogie Robby to get anything done around here.
Yes, someone actually said that. I have a copy of the message.
OT: Shikha Dalmia is officially off the libertarian reservation.
This is not what a libertarian looks like. This is apologia for violence.
You can’t condemn arson and violently beating people unconscious, pepper spraying them, destroying a bank’s storefront, smashing ATMs, and looting a Starbucks BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT SOMEONE HAS TO SAY?
Vile. Hateful. Bigot.
Here is the link to the tweet, because this is so unbelievable that I can’t imagine it will stay up long.
She’ll probably delete it and pretend it was never said.
Most of us have known she’s a sorry sack of shit and a pseudolibertarian for quite some time. This just confirms it and I hope we won’t be seeing any articles from her in the future.
Cranky but not a Crank. Libertarian because it pisses me off less frequently than the alternatives.
This is a different self-characterization than I’ve seen from her in a while. It’s actually Obama-style transparently honest.
*limbers wrists*
In Trump’s America Dalmia not a crank, just cranky!
Screen shots have a way of getting taken and shared. Plus, there’s the way-back machine. Nothing ever truly disappears on the interwebs.
That was why my first reaction to that was to screenshot it.
I’ve created an archive.is for it. That includes a date stamp, so it’s proof against forgery should it be deleted later and denied.
That is….revealing. I wonder what Nick, et al think of that?
I’ll bate wherever I damn well please, slaver.
+1 go away
Well, we knew she wasn’t really a libertarian, just a shill for open borders. But still. Wow.
She is simply burnishing her libertarian credentials.
maybe they cut the part where this woman was all racist?
Her hat says “Make Bitcoin Great Again.” Not that someone who would commit an act of violence to stifle speech would listen to it (or read it).
I liked her hat. Too bad its all peppery now.
god she is the worst on reason….even chapman is better.
Let’s not get crazy here.
you think she is better than chapman?
She’s prettier.
Low bar.
no joke…they both are bad.
Also OT: Is anyone else getting really sick of this “Trump’s America” horseshit? What, did he buy the entire fucking country? Or did he just eminent domain the entire landmass to himself or something? It’s just such a stupid turn of phrase. The President doesn’t own the whole country, assholes.
For the record, I got just as pissed whenever someone used the term “Obama’s America” although I don’t remember that phrase being used as much. Maybe I’m mis-remembering, but I don’t think it was as common 8 years ago. Maybe it’s an artifact of the Left’s tendency to think of the president as some kind of God-King who owns and controls everything by divine right. /end rant
Obama’s America was a movie by what’s his face.
Hitler?
Well D’Souza is on the right so probably Hitler.
Also OT: Is anyone else getting really sick of this “Trump’s America” horseshit? What, did he buy the entire fucking country? Or did he just eminent domain the entire landmass to himself or something? It’s just such a stupid turn of phrase. The President doesn’t own the whole country, assholes.
In my country, men use bait to catch animals. In Trump’s America animals use bait to catch men!
Definitely sick of it. It seems to be a consequence of a popular desire toward idolatry, but more in the Japanese than the religious sense. We don’t have royal families (the political dynasties notwithstanding), so people apply the same habits they use for their favorite athletes and actors when they get a new President.
This reminds me of the Charlie Hebdo apologists. “Yeah they shouldn’t have shot up the place but did you see those cartoons! They were asking for it!”
That’s a perfect comparison.
If you’re stupid enough to go on recording a cop when he tells you to stop just because you have “rights”, obviously he’s going to have to talk down to you in plain, simple language rather than any sort of nuanced terminology. “I’m going to create something” is just stupid-people talk for “I’m quite certain that the breadth of the law and my discretion can, at any given moment, create an arguable justification for arresting you.” Which is true.
The bit about “it’s not illegal to record a cop” has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not he can arrest you for recording him. “You might beat the rap but you can’t beat the ride”, as they say – if the cop arrests you for doing something he’s not supposed to be able to arrest you for, you still get just as arrested and cuffed and taken downtown and booked and processed and stuck in a cell until the paperwork gets finished to the cop’s satisfaction and somebody comes and bails you out as if you had been arrested for something the cop is in fact legally allowed to arrest you for. It’s just that in the one case the cop has to say the magic words ” “Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ’cause I’ve worked in a lot of police departments and I tell you people do that all the time. It’s not my fault I wasn’t trained properly.”
The difference is, George was still fired. The cops almost never are.
Hey guys, did you hear the one about the 67 year old registered nurse who was body slammed by two cops for attempting to help a teenager having a medical emergency? I know its a local story and Reason has never ever reported on local occurrences as a means of highlighting systemic issues with our criminal justice system, but wouldn’t you think violence directed against a helpless older woman would be more worthy of a blog post than the mere threat of violence?
Oh my goodness! That sounds pretty heinous! I’d sure like to see a little more on that… Maybe Reason would pick it up? I mean, isn’t police abuse sort of their “thing”?
Why would they cover a local story like that which would be of no interest to libertarians anyway?
Well, this story involved violence and an arrest, not like that other one!
Perhaps they should start. I mean I’ve heard of this one woman, Lenore something, who frequently blogs about this thing called ‘Free Range Parenting’.
It’s mainly local stories of hypersensitivity of child endangerment by the state run amok but they should really consider running her material on a weekly basis.
The editor of the online magazine is too busy being serious about a Tweet.
Why someone would willing travel to the sheriff’s office in the first place is beyond me. I find it wise to stay as far away as possible from places where police congregate. One of them is bad enough. If you get them in a group, they tend to feed off each others authority and things escalate quickly.
You’re rolling the dice for a payout?
Assuming you survive the encounter, maybe. Still pretty damn risky.
I wouldn’t do it.
Some people are still under the delusion that the cops are there to help you.
I blame public schools. That’s where the officer friendly bullshit starts.
Loved the finger wagging secretary.
Oh my goodness! That sounds pretty heinous! I’d sure like to see a little more on that… Maybe Reason would pick it up? I mean, isn’t police abuse sort of their “thing”?
All we need to do is blame it on Trump, and they’ll be all over it.
Sadly, I think you might be right.
An administrative investigation into the incident is now underway
Oh man I can’t wait for them to throw the book at this asshole! I mean, really let him have it. Fired, barred from working in public service ever again, and open him up to civil damages too!!!!
OT –
We won this night. We will control the streets. We will liberate the land. We will fight fascists. We will dismantle the state. This is war.
DISMANTLE THE STATE AND REPLACE IT WITH A BIGGER STATE!
You’re anarchying wrong, OccupyOakland.
When your definition of anarchy is “I’mma break some shit” they’re doing it exactly right.
I can sympathize with a principled anarchist. I probably share some of their views. These fucks are not anarchists. They are just dissidents who want a different flavor of big gov.
+1
Good reply:
They really want a war dont they
A war they’ll lose. Badly.
You will notice they only get violent in leftist strongholds. If free areas where people’s right to keep and bear arms isn’t being too strongly infringed, this shit doesn’t happen.
“Oh, it’s easy to sit here and swat ’em like flies. But the National Guard will be harder to catch. We need a sign. To rally the people. To call them to arms. To bring them in line!”
How is that twitter acct not shut down?