Shooting at Ft. Lauderdale Airport; Five Reported Dead, Eight More Injured; Single Suspect in Custody
Updated with more information on suspect Esteban Santiago, age 26; once allegedly claimed he was being forced to fight for ISIS.

A gunman in Florida's Ft-Lauderdale-Hollywood airport shot and killed many people this morning.
While the specifics, as usual in the early reporting on such incidences, are not nailed down, CNN first reported 9 injured and "multiple" dead as of the time of this posting.

A suspect is in custody, Broward County Mayor Barbara Sharief told CNN. There is no reason to believe he did not act alone. That suspect has not yet been identified and no motive yet being reported.
The shooting happened near the lower level baggage claim at the airport.
The Washington Post is now reporting five dead, eight others injured.
UPDATE (3 pm est): Via Kansas City Star, details on incident and shooter, not verified yet by law enforcement:
Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida said on MSNBC that the shooter is named Esteban Santiago and that the man was carrying a military identification…
Mark Lea, who said he was a witness to the shootings, told MSNBC that the shooter was a man, wearing a Star Wars T-shirt, and that he walked into the baggage claim area of Terminal 2 and opened fire with a single handgun.
Lea said the man said nothing as we he went through three magazines before giving up and sprawling spread-eagle on the flood as a police officer took him into custody.
"He had no intention of escaping," Lea told MSNBC.
UPDATE II (4 pm est). Via Daily Beast a good summation of what's being reported about arrested suspect Esteban Santiago, including his criminal record:
Santiago landed at the airport after a flight. Santiago checked a handgun in his luggage and retrieved it at the Terminal 2 baggage claim, [Broward County Commissioner Chip] LaMaca wrote [on Facebook], adding that he loaded the gun in a bathroom then came out and opened fire. NBC News, citing law enforcement officials, confirmed LaMarca's story…
Santiago was born in New Jersey, according to NBC News, and was a member of the U.S. Army National guard.
Santiago lived in Anchorage, Alaska from 2014 to 2016. Alaska court records show a criminal record there for minor traffic infractions including operating a vehicle without insurance and a broken taillight. Records also show his landlord evicted him for non-payment of rent in February 2015.
In January 2016, Santiago was charged with two misdemeanor crimes: one count of fourth-degree assault and another for damage of property over $50. According to a spokesperson from the Anchorage Police department the incident was related to domestic violence.
The case was resolved in March when Santiago entered into a deferred prosecution agreement, an alternative to adjudication where a state prosecutor dismissed the charges in exchange for Esteban's completion of requirements that are unknown.
UPDATE III (5:45 pm est) CBS Miami reports Santiago in November "walked into an FBI office in Anchorage claiming that he was being forced to fight for ISIS. He was sent to a psychiatric hospital."
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There is no reason to believe he did not act alone.
Well, until ISIS claims credit, that is.
Yes, as we know, one should always believe claims made by ISIS.
Probably not. However the initial quote didn't say 'no GOOD reason....'
Jeez, double negative much?
Sometimes language contains more nuance than its symbolic logic counterpart.
Bill Nelson (apparently) tweeted that the perp was carrying US military identification and is named Eduardo Santiago
**Correction** Esteban Santiago
Carmen Sandiego?
I always feared Carmen would take a bad turn, but I never thought this badly.
Why in the World?
*SLAP*
I just hope Dora and whatever she has in her backpack isn't in on it.
I saw Esteban Santiago
but who knows at this point.
...
I do know it's Trump's fault.
#TrumpsAmerica
White Hispanic?
"wearing a Star Wars T-shirt"
White Jedi Hispanic!
Military ID? That'll give fuel to the conspiracy theorists.
Many mass murderers are military. Off the top of my head: Fort Hood dude, DC sniper, McVeigh. Yet this is swept under the rug when some Muslim nutjob goes on a rampage and all the yokels shout "What a surprise! Another Muslim killer."
Eric Rudoplh!
Rudolph.
You leave Santa's reindeer out of this!
**sing-songy voice** But do you recall, the most lethal one of all....
"Sir, in the Marines, Sir!"
Ok, maybe not a mass-murderer, but still.
Charles Whitman most certainly was.
Those individuals showed what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do!
[sfx: sad trombone]
But you did provide a linky so we'll call it a tie.
Er...sarcasm, somewhat?
Fort Hood dude - Nidal Hasan, yelling Allahu Akbar while inflicting his workplace violence?
DC Sniper - Born as John Allen Williams, Muhammad joined the Nation of Islam in 1987 and later changed his surname to Muhammad.
Charles Whitman.And of course, the ever-popular Lee Harvey Oswald.
Meh. Draft era killers, right?
Actually, no. While the Marines have used draftees at some points when enlistments were not meeting needs, neither Whitman nor Oswald joined the marines during one of those times.
It's almost like training people to kill people makes them more likely to kill people or something.
Naaaaah, can't be that. These service-people died for our freedom, apparently, and we can't say anything that might offend them or their fanboys.
Or that people who want to kill people seek out opportunities to do so.
Bill Nelson (apparently) tweeted that the perp was carrying US military identification
Our heroes, totally above reproach.
What a day at the fucking airport.
Sorry - SF'ed the hell outta that.
Let's try this again
Correction = that's just a photo of the TSA line from last week
*Golf clap*
+ a lot.
Whenever I see these responses to terror events (I guess that designation works well enough for now), and authorities herding people away like cattle with their hands up, it just completely sickens me.
^This
At least 9-11 Twin Towers they didn't. They just said get the hell out.
WaPo link is broken.
Now that i mention is, why link to WaPo at all? They don't deserve the clicks. Here's Reuters
The shooter was wearing a Star Wars t-shirt. So, there's that.
Jedi terrorists. I knew they were trouble.
Rebel scum.
Leave me out of this.
You are a traitor and a part of the rebel alliance. *wags finger accusatorily*
First it was the Russians who were supposedly attacking us (Russophobia is racism). Now it's bloody New Zealanders.
So the commenters talking about military personnel and training lending to violence and shootings need to look at star wars fanatics as well. Virtual to real life emotional transfer I guess.
Maybe he's a huge fan that just got around to seeing phantom menace, sent him on a rampage.
So a follower of Darth Vader then? Clearly, "Star Wars" promotes hate and violence, and must be BANNED!!! USA needs to be turned into a giant "safe space", free of "Star Wars" hate crimes and thought crimes...
+1 Confederate Flag
We wont even talk about how Droids are kept as a Slaves
+1 Restraining Bolt
Most bizarre "humanizing detail" included in the Reuters report
Reminds me of so many '"Christ, mom, what are you doing" moments.
"Mom, sweaters don't stop bleeding!"
"But its such a nice sweater. You are so ungrateful sometimes"
Yes but there are always two Sith; a master and an apprentice.
Police radio has them shooting a second suspect. Haven't seen that mentioned anywhere online.
WaPo must be furiously scrambling to connect the Russian Menace to this incident.
Soudns like he is Latino, so there's your Trump connection. The rest falls into place like domino's.
Is that some kind of coded deep dish reference? Dominoes.
"All men are ignorant; for no man can know everything."
Deep Dish Dominoes? *throws up*
People abuse apostrophes just to piss me off.
Its' known.
I predict that it will be blamed on anti-government militias and glibertarian fanatics, for propagating anti-Government-Almighty (and therefor anti-social) sentiments... If'n ye are not with us, ye are agin us...
It was a Hispanic man with military ID. The lefties will memoryhole this. Doesn't fit the narrative.
George Zimmerman is a Hispanic man.
All the lefties I know consider him a white guy.
Hispanic isn't a racial category.
Maybe this guy is a white guy too. I haven't seen any pictures.
My point is basically that to SJWs, Hispanics are people of color, except when shit like this happens.
There is more than just skin color that makes people white. Like owning a gun, voting Republican, or subscribing to Austrian Economics. This overrides any genetic traits.
See also: Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Ted Cruz, Thomas Sowell.
According to progs it is.
Wasn't everyone making fun of their use of "white hispanic" not that long ago?
I think that "according to progs" just varies depending on the situation at hand and isn't terribly consistent.
Progs aren't terribly consistent, so there's that.
Almost all Hispanics are pretty much white.
Not that anyone ever brings that fact up, because it doesn't fit the narrative either side wants to craft about Hispanic people.
I don't know about "almost all". There are a lot of black and mixed race Spanish speakers in the Americas.
I know exactly four white Hispanics - my brother-in-law and his family. Pretty much every single other Hispanic person I've ever known was mixed-race, usually with a fair amount of Amerindian heritage.
Maybe it depends on where you live. I'm living in Oregon, and grew up in Nevada, both of which have large populations of mestizos.
There are majorities of white people in Argentina and Chile. And Spain, if they get to count as Hispanic.
And Uruguay, where they killed all the natives
Hispanics are quite often mixed race - white, black, native american. The Spanish didn't colonize the way the British did. Not nearly as many families moving, just the men. So, like people tend to do when there's such a disparity, they married and had families, officially or not, with the locals.
Depends. He might have been a white Hispanic.
The right will also try to memory hole this. The military is full of noble heroes and nothing else.
Pre-Trump Stress Disorder?
No way. A hispanic guy? You know who has made the country unbelievably stressful for Hispanics? Trump, that's who.
However, it does fit the narrative that all guns are dangerous and nobody should own one.
Except anti-gunners have been specific that cops & military should have them, even in private life.
Have they? I haven't gotten that impression. Especially when it comes to military people.
Military should definitely have them... locked up in their arms room, to be only drawn when going to a range or when leaving US soil.
That is going to change.
Not really, the policy is just shifting the authority down to military commanders (O-5 or higher), who will, in the interest of CYA, not allow anyone to actually exercise this authority.
"Lt Col Smith, you now have the authority to allow your unit personnel to carry personal arms, and thereby end your chances of promotion to O-6."
*faints*
Reply to Crusty
Reply to Crusty
Now we will have to listen to all the prog bigmouths complain about how Star Wars fandom promotes anti-government libertarian ideas that result in mass shootings-great...
No, because the rebels in Star Wars were fighting against a government they considered illegitimate.
I don't consider the shirt anything other than random noise. Everyone loves Star Wars; unfortunately the set of Everyone includes some bad people.
http://cdn.redalertpolitics.co......26-AM.png
Damn, I still kinda wish I still lived in NH
Airport spokeshole says everything has been very orderly and organized, as people run around the airside on the tarmac and runways.
"Remain calm! Remain! Calm!"
Florida man. Amirite?!?! Seriously, though, I hope nobody else dies. Reports of a second shooter.
There is ALWAYS a second shooter.
Until there's not.
24-Hour Rule. You never believe any details beyond people shot and location until at least 24 hours after the incident.
I heard it was near the Delta baggage claim area so I have a suspicion about what the motive was. We'll know more if it turns out the shooting victims were primarily Delta employees. ("Aaugh! Lost bag!" shouted angrily may be mistaken for some other phrase so don't be quick to make assumptions.)
Too soon?
Maybe there was a video of Delta employees talking bad about Muhammad.
Aren't the baggage carousels in the TSA gun free zone area?
Pretty sure they are. The nation's top magicians are hard at work attempting to determine why the magic gun free zone signs failed to prevent this atrocity.
Both the magic signs and that he probably went through security screening at some point.
In domestic terminals, there isn't usually too much to stop someone going into the baggage claim area from the unsecured area where people wait for arrivals.
Need checkpoints and metal detectors on all roads leading into airports. And Christmas markets. and Bastille Day/Patriotic events, and malls, and schools, and , one supposes, the egress from everyone's house.
That's been my experience. Always made me wonder what's preventing someone from just coming in and doing just what this guy did.
Apparently he had the gun in his baggage.
So get ready for it to be a much bigger pain in the ass to fly with guns.
Ehh, fuck. Thank you Jeebus for not making me fly nowhere nomore.
Well, in the "no guns allowed" sign zone. Not in the "I gotsa to check your a-hole" zone.
Not at DIA, you can stroll right in to baggage claim from the parking lot. Assume other airports are the same
Nope. that area is AFTER you exit the "sterile" areas of the airport where the Tee Ess Ay goons grope and prod and insult. Ever picked up a friend at the airport? You can walk right in to the appropriate baggage carousel and mingle with the former passengers.
I've thought for a few years now that some day someone is going to pop off in that area, leading to it, too, being sealed and included in the "sterile" areas. But then, back up a couple of steps, and what is to stop a guy like this from going postal out on the sidewalk after all the passengers leave the building? Or, how about out in the car park?
The problem is not "airport security" the problem, once again, is disarmed citizens in too many places. I've checked handguns in luggage before, but have always waited to get out to the car before opening up my bag, unlocking it, prepping and lpading a mag, and putting it back where it belongs.. on my hip. Now I just may decide to open the suitcase in a quiet area near the baggage carousel, and do all that then and there.
Aren't the baggage carousels in the TSA gun free zone area?
Not in my experience. You usually go through the "You can't come back this way" gate before the carousels. And anyone can walk in from outside.
Of course, other than those who come in to meet passengers, everyone in baggage pickup who might otherwise be carrying still has their guns locked unloaded in the checked suitcase they are waiting for.
Fox is saying that there might be another person, FWIW.
Man handcuffed, possibly in relation to the second incident.
Guy who had his gun illegally and reacted?
We saw that with the recent car/knife attack at that university. There was a picture of an American black guy in handcuffs at the scene. That photo disappeared very quickly and I never heard a followup and even did a bit of research but couldn't find anything on him after the photo disappeared. I suspect the guy at the university was a random employee, contractor or visitor who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and the cops saw a black guy and decided he had to be guilty of something. I hope he got a payday out of that.
Im not sure why anyone would feel compelled to say, "There is no reason to believe ___________" unless the person saying so wanted to believe the opposite.
no one needs to have the 'absence of information' reported on.
e.g. "There is also no reason to believe that this is the first stage of a national uprising of baggage handlers to overthrow the shackles of the capitalist system and bring forth a proletarian society ruled according to scientific principles and devotion to the brotherhood of mankind."
There's no reason to believe the Baader-Meinhof Group is to blame.
Duh. It was the Red Brigades!
Shooting took place at Terminal 2, which is Delta (and a few other smaller airlines, but mostly Delta). The terminals at FLL are separate buildings.
My office is only a couple of miles north of the airport. Been hearing non-stop police sirens for a while now.
Can't wait to see what new "security" measures they come up with now because of this.
Primarily my prayers are for the dead and wounded.
Secondarily, I'm hoping he didn't conceal a gun in his ass, because then I'll just switch to using the bus for all trips, including trips across the ocean.
Scuba Gear for the highways under the sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_mV1IpjWA
Transatlantic Tunnel.
he had his handgun lawfully secured in checked luggage. Fished it out after he collected his bag, went into the loo and put it together, came out and began shooting.....
Next thing, they'll try and outlaw the checking of firearms in checked luggage. Always another stop backward. I say let anyone lawfully able to carry, carry even on the plane. Had ANYONE else there been armed, he'd not have shot so many. He went through what, three mags? I've gone to pick up folks arriving at the airport, and walked into the claim area armed... fully legal. Too bad no one else had done that in this airport. Fewer dead, but maybe him dead? Save a lot of tax dollars.
Clearly we just need TSA lines in front of every door in the building.
With Machine guns!
Every security theater's better with machine guns!
And make those TSA agents promise to never go postal.
I just flew through there a few days ago.
First, let me tell you that you live in an armpit. A hot, steaming armpit adjacent to a pile of the nastiest elderly New York Jews imaginable.
Second, it was the most inefficient TSA line I have ever encountered. The TSA folks were jovial, but of course they were getting paid by the hour.
It was a relief to land back at O'Hare, which tells you how awful FLL is.
Quick, someone outlaw possessing guns in airports!
Anywhere within driving distance of an airport?
Earlier, the CNN anchor asked an eyewitness to describe the gun, not the shooter.
At least they're being honest now.
So they are OK with the gun being identified as black?
The gun is a 9mm but identifies as a racist AR-15.
Imagine the disappointment.
Are you aware of any white guns that are used to commit crimes?
Wow, they aren't even trying to hide their biases any longer.
The murder weapon was a Glock 26, 9mm I assume.
All handguns are Glocks
even the stainless revolver a robber used a few weeks ago.......
Thanks guys. Link fixed, updated with some of those reported details re shirt and possible name of shooter.
My guess: Puerto Rican separatists.
Oh, I hope so. Muslim terrorists are just so boring.
That would be a real blast from the past. It would be 1975 all over again.
Or even 1954.
"the shooter was overheard repeatedly shouting "Puerto Rico, hooooooooo"
That brings back memories.
Shouldn't it be, "pe-peep"...
An Obama-appointed ambassador angry that he had to come back the the U.S. immediately?
Winner
Are there no Muslim Hispanics?
"There's not enough room on the form, man!"
Not since about 1600.
1492.
I wasn't sure if you could count these guys or not.
There was that one guy. Can't remember the name.
Sure there are. Including this guy.
That's the guy I was thinking of.
Its the DNC, protesting that Congress did not stop Trump's election
I thought airports were "gun-free zones"...
Just shows how evil guns are, they don't obey the law.
No, people fly with guns in their baggage all the time. Which it is starting to look like what this guy did.
I was a bit surprised when I found out how easy it was to fly with a firearm. I bet that's going to change now.
Pretty much anyone can walk in off the street to the baggage carousels in the arrivals hall. This is unsecured area in every domestic airport I have been in.
Check-in counters are also unsecured.
We need to screen people as they leave their homes.
Just replace TV's with telescreens and give the NSA the funding they so badly need.
"Touch your toes, Montag!"
Seriously. I was shopping at the supermarket yesterday and would you believe they just let crowds of people walk in?!
They were unsecured...
Picking up people from the airport is about to get much, much, worse.
Yes. My guess is that it is someone with a personal beef. A disgruntled ex employee or maybe the guy went in there to whack his wife and kept shooting or something.
Work place violence. Nothing to see here.
" guy went in there to whack his wife and kept shooting or something"
Could be-maybe she was returning from a visit to her lover.
based on the name of the shooter I think cartel hit, apparently according to one report after shooting some people he went up to them and shot them in the head. Sounds like a hit tactic, if this is true but at this point its anybodies guess and the feds will never tell us the ruth in the end if it is so i'm sticking to my contrivancies
Ooh, ooh, I wanna get in on this.
Ft. Lauderdale is coke-smuggling territory, not dope-smuggling so probably S. American cartel, not Mexican. Given the turbulent situation there, probably a Venezuelan cartel since the guy was acting irrationally violent. See, this is what happens when the US refuses to support governments like Venezuela just because they don't like the social justice and the peaceful sharing and all the economic equality - the place goes to hell and people start acting crazy.
And why is US support for Venezuela so necessary when Venezuela has all that oil they should be able to support themselves with? Fracking. Fracking in the US has destroyed the value of Venezuela's oil, leading to civic turmoil and people going crazy and shooting up airports.
And who's behind all the fracking? The Kochtopus, of course. It's all part of the evil plan - and here we sit pretending we're not the wriggliest of tentacles on the Kochtopus and we're not directly responsible for the shooting in Ft. Lauderdale. We really are pure evil, aren't we?
Ft Lauderdale is NOT a landing port for offshore flights. Nearly all from central and south America land at the People's Republic of Miami.....
Arrival and departure hauls are currently unsecured. There is always a major choke point where thousands of people leave the check-in counters and head to the TSA security lines. Anyone can roll a travel bag right into the middle of that crowd before getting to the first level of screening. It is a target rich environment.
Really surprised it hasn't happened here yet.
(at the check-in counters and TSA lines, I mean, where there can be hundreds of people packed together)
Me too
Same here. I've stood in a couple of wrapped-around hour-long lines at terminals. Could not be a better bomb target. And lots of people had luggage, so it could be a decent-sized bomb.
Get two or three people checking in from different sides of haul and slightly different times and then you could make a really, really big mess in the TSA lines with the contents from two or three carry-on bags.
you mean "hall"?
The only time I've been anxious about traveling was a few years ago, when I was stuck in a TSA line in the early morning. A few hundred of us were crammed into this line that snaked around a fairly narrow chokepoint. It dawned on me that if someone wanted to terrorize Americans, they need only bring a bomb in their carry-on suitcase and detonate it in the middle of that.
And that realization makes dealing with the TSA checkpoints even more stressful.
And think about the masses of people crammed into sports stadiums. Terrorists or even something natural such as a tornado could kill hundreds or thousands of people.
So the airline actually delivered the handgun to the shooter at the baggage claim. Clearly, airlines need to prohibit guns in checked luggage. It's for the kids.
no way hose A.
To be forced to travel disarmed is bad enough. But to force me to be disarmed the whole trip, no thanks. If it weren't illegal to buy handguns interstate (you CAN buy long guns interstate, but not handguns) it would not be such a big deal... simply buy something at the other end and then sent it home. Background check must be part of that purchase anyway. What's the difference whether I buy it in Seattle or Miami? Same gun, same me...
and it ain't up to the airlines to ban that... that's a BATF and Federal Code issue..... 18 USC governs, Airines are required to comply, and should be.
WHY does one nutjob REQUIRE an immediate hollering to further restrict the rest of us?
What is the deal with airline shooters?
Most of them hate Jewish comedy?
Its all about learning to hate yourself
You now who else hated Jewish comedians?
You know who else...
Jesus?
Goyische funnymen trying to get a gig?
ABC: #LIVE Witness says gunman shouted "I'm not Jewish" repeatedly
Um... OK.
FFS don't look at the comments.
*barfs*
Yikes. The rise is outright Jew-hatred in recent years is very distressing.
at least they have moved on from McDonalds and the post office the favored place of shooters in the 70's & 80's.
And now there's this: ABC TV Feed: From the Broward county source, the shooter flew in from Canada. He had a gun checked in his baggage, took it out at the baggage claim area and started shooting. (This info is from ABC, they named their source as a broward county official)
So somebody smuggled a gun FROM Canada and INTO Florida?
Canadian gun control at work
Remember how the Hobbits reasoned that, 'the closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm.' It's like that. Bringing guns from Canada to the US is like finding the side door to the castle keep.
Talk about carrying coals to Newcastle...
If it wasn't for Rufus and John Titor I'd be scaling the northern wall right now and shootin' sum syrup suckers right now. /red blooded 'murican
That kinda like smuggling cigarettes purchased in NYC to sell in Tennessee.
That makes perfect sense, in some bizarre universe I've never visited.
Despite our hype, gun control in this country is actually pretty shitty, particularly outside of urban areas.
BUILD THE WALL
Not if we build LE MUR first!
That is starting to look a bit like a Muslim convert doing his good deed for Allah.
Wrong type of brown, John.
Jose Padilla was unavailable for comment.
Why does it look more like that than, say, crazy person kills strangers at random for unfathomable reasons that only make sense to a crazy person? I mean, maybe he shouted "Admiral Akbar!", but that means nothing.
Traveling from Canada. The flying in part. The nut who blows a gasket usually does it locally.
Certainly possible. I'm going to forgo having an opinion for a few days. There's always a bunch of just plain wrong information in the immediate aftermath of things like this.
Blame Canada!
Our guilty and culpable land!
Did the shooter apologize after every shot?
Ha.
Also, this doesn't make sense. If he came from Canada wouldn't he have collected his bag at the baggage check in customs?
US Customs is in most Canadian airports; you clear US Customs before you get on the plane in Canada.
Oh, that makes sense then. Not for long?
Now they're saying he was on a flight from Anchorage via Minneapolis
You can go through US customs at Canadian airports.
That's what rts said above. When you go through customs in an American airport you have to retrieve checked baggage and have it run through a scanner while you are with it. Do you have to go through a similar procedure in Canada?
Pic of the gun
Looks kind of like a short-barreled Walther PPQ with a 15 rd magazine (maybe? It looks like it protrudes from the grip). Either on of these features would make it a prohibited firearm in Canada and unlikely it came from here.
Disgruntled Canadian junior hockey fan?
no way. Canada almost completely prohibit their subjects from owning handguns. I cannot imagine them letting folks have them in checked luggage. Further, there would HAVE to be paperwork to fill out getting on the plane in Canada, and Department of State pwperwork to fill out to make the importation of a firearm legal and all that. Nope, I don't buy that one.
Weapon X escaped again...
The layout at nytimes.com right now has to be seen to be believed.
The entire top half of the page is Trump and Hillary nothingburgers.
Seeing there was a shooting in an airport requires much scrolling down.
What a joke.
I'm surprised the media hasn't started to blame florida's stand your ground law. that said the D senator from Florida tried to go back to the Terrorist watch list and how people on it should not be allowed rights. the left never skips a beat.
There was a bomb threat at the Lacolle Can/US border earlier today.
http://montrealgazette.com/new.....ter-threat
Interesting. Wonder if connected.
Probably just someone that didn't want to go to work.
I just got an email from some freight company telling me it's open again.
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Weigel gonna Weigel
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wait, whats the phrase?
Christ what an asshole!
p.s. I know Weigel...don't hate him as much as many here but ...
What did he say? He banned me when I suggested he try Proactive...
Reason truncates the link differently than Twitter does, but otherwise the content is the same.
Odds of being able to fly with a firearm at all a year from now?
I know TEAM RED is the stupid party, but do you think they'll cave on this?
the U.S. Army National guard
THERE IS NO SUCH THING!
What State Army National Guard was he a member of?
Alaska, apparently.
Now the Go-Pee party will want to wall off Alaska.
Wait! Are you telling me they made a mistake in their reporting??
Maybe he's from the NGB.
Stand your ground legislation again rules the roost. Will this psycho walk free?
Well that's the dumbest thing that's been said so far.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
No death sentence means room and board at taxpayer expense. Perhaps we could exchange the perp for a soldier captured by Saracen berserkers in some Mohammedan Utopia? Failing that perhaps we could exchange the perp and a half-dozen Transport Sozialist Arbeiterpartei agents for someone worthwhile in the hands of religious fanatics. You tell me.
It takes a State at least $2 million dollars in legal fees etc. to handle the appeals of a death sentence. It is far cheaper to keep them behind bars for the rest of their lives. Besides a dozen death row inmates are exonerated each year.
Question-begging.
So there goes ever checking a gun with your luggage again. Fuck.
^^ Exactly.
Domestic violence conviction?
Ok, solved.
TOXIC MASCULINITY!!!
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No doubt, some will announce that this latest shooting all to clearly shows that more in the way of Gun Control is needed, a theory that unfortunately begs the following point. Re the pistol used, I assume it was a pistol rather than a revolver,was it legally obtained? Also, was it purchased prior to or after the shooters legal problems,excluding traffic violations.
In January 2016, Santiago was charged with two misdemeanor crimes: one count of fourth-degree assault and another for damage of property over $50. According to a spokesperson from the Anchorage Police department the incident was related to domestic violence.
UPDATE III (5:45 pm est) CBS Miami reports Santiago in November "walked into an FBI office in Anchorage claiming that he was being forced to fight for ISIS. He was sent to a psychiatric hospital."
So Anchorage LE flubbed it when they chose to lay a lesser charge of property tamage and 4th degree assault when it reallly was domestic violence. A misdemeanour charge of domestic violence is a prohibiting factor for owning'possessing firearms.
But the real issue is his involuntary admission to a psych hospital in November. THAT is typically a disqualifier, too.
SO, once again, gun laws already in place fail to keep a gun out of the hands of the wrong guy....... but yuo watch,. They'll be hollering for more of them, more laws to break, more controls on the rest of us that will be ignored by a perp like this.
A-a-a-a-a-a-n-d he's Muslim.
Ooh, I hope he turns out to be a Muslim Puerto Rican separatist who wants to start the Caliphate in PR. That would be novel.
Re the millions of dollars that would be spent on a trial and so forth, this mentioned by another poster,how about maybe $0.50,allowing for the criminal escalation in ammunition prices,for a single 9MM cartridge, this serving as the executioners tool.
Trials are still kind of important.
The trick is to shoot him while he is still actively dangerous. Then everyone's happy.
yuo want to punish the hundred million gun owners who never have, and never will, do anything like this?
How about fix the system that costs $2Mn to execute a convicted murderer? Sure, one appeal, with good legal representation. But the YEARS of dragging it out, spending cubic tax dollars, etc... ? WHY do gummint always make things so expensive? (answer: because they have an unlimited source of tax dollars..... AND because they don't care. )
By this standard I guess I have a criminal record in multiple states myself. Woohoo.
It's too bad this ISIS douche didn't kill those people with a knife. That way, we could get all uppity and proclaim that the only way to confront an ISIS knife wielder is to have everyone above the age of 11 packing an concealed Colt 45. That'd fix these terrorist assholes.
MOAR GUNS EQUALS LESS ISIS CRIME.
It doesn't matter what the average intelligence level of a room is, it still drops whenever you step into the room.
Hmmm.. less intelligent than the four walls of a room? From his post, may be so.....
You're an idiot.
Based on the claim about "voices in his head", I'd say he was off his meds or should have been on some meds in the first place.
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They report that Santiago walked into an FBI office and announced that he was being "forced" to fight for ISIS. The FBI dropped the ball, as they often do, and now people are dead. This fellow may have responded to mental health treatment that he did not get.
However, had several people in the baggage area been armed themselves, as they should have been if the USA and State of Florida did not have such restrictive gun laws, Santiago would be dead now and several others would be alive who are not alive today.
Meanwhile, Barack Obama has flooded the nation with Muslims and Muslim terrorists for eight years and opened up the southern border to illegal aliens and Muslim terrorists.
Restrictive gun laws must be eradicated!
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Carlos the Jackal
Asian Dawn.
I read about them in Time magazine.
John Wayne!
'Twas Moriarty!
People's Front of Judea...wait, maybe it was the Judean Peoples Front?
Not those splitters!
In which case he would have carried a gun through (1) Canadian Airport Security; (2) Customs; and (3) Atlanta Airport Security.
Reports that he went to the bathroom to load it, then came out firing.
On domestic flights, yes, but there's a shitload of paperwork to import one into the country.\
Me personally, I favor bombing Santa's Workshop, his elves, all his reindeer, and all their lice, ticks, and fleas, too! They are all just entirely TOOO socialist! Bunch of CRAP, giving taxpayer's toys to the corruptible, innocent young, just for supposedly being "good"! Teaches them to be mooches!
You know the Greeks; they're WAY socialist, to the point that they DO like freaks! Yet their Greek-socialist thunder-and-lightning God, Zeus, even HE can't stand the excessive socialism of the reindeer! See what He did to a bunch of these mooching socialists, HERE: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8.....hy-science
John Wayne is a fag.
Maybe now we know why NORAD tracks them so carefully every year.
"raises hand while eagerly jumping up and down and saying "I do, I do!""