Google, Facebook, Twitter Sued for Allegedly Helping ISIS Inspire Orlando Pulse Nightclub Killer Omar Mateen
Google's ad model also targeted by suit, which tries to hold the communications entities responsible for how its users use them.

One can understand the instinct, when the one who actually caused you tortious harm is beyond any judgment but the eternal one, to lash out at whatever hefty pockets seem within reach. Still, the legal gambit from the families of three of the people (Tevin Crosby, Javier Jorge-Reyes and Juan Ramon Guerrero) killed in Omar Mateen's murder rampage in June at Orlando's Pulse nightclub to sue Facebook, Twitter and Google because the tech services allegedly "provided the terrorist group ISIS with accounts they use to spread extremist propaganda, raise funds, and attract new recruits" should have any believer in free expression and the ability to technologically and legally facilitate it nervous. I certainly hope no U.S. judge sees any merit in it.
The suit was filed this week in U.S. District Court in the eastern district of Michigan, as first reported yesterday by Fox News.

What we all want out of communication networks like Facebook and Twitter and search services such as Google, and usually get at least in any way it actively affects us, is that they neither interfere with nor even worry overmuch about how we are using them. For them to be what we want them to be, they should be as neutral as possible.
To the degree they choose not to be neutral, they open themselves up to these sorts of accusations that by providing a means for people to communicate or earn money via ads, they are somehow complicit in the nature of the communications or their real-world harms, if any. This should be a reason for such companies to be as effectively content-neutral as possible, though as the lawsuit itself notes, the entities being sued try not to seem to facilitate terror.
Section 230 of 1996's Communications Decency Act has generally been interpreted, correctly, as indemnifying the providers of these communications services from being considered responsible for the content on them.
The families' lawyer are arguing, though, that, as Fox puts it:
sites like Facebook may be violating the provision with their heavily-guarded algorithms….this lawsuit alleges something much more nefarious behind one of the tech world's most secretive processes.
"The defendants create unique content by matching ISIS postings with advertisements based upon information known about the viewer," [lawyer Keith] Altman said. "Furthermore, the defendants finance ISIS's activities by sharing advertising revenue."…
While these social platforms have cracked down and deactivated accounts affiliated with terrorist groups in the past, Altman argued that another account will almost immediately pop up and that companies think they're not responsible because they are not ones producing the content.
Yes, that is exactly the point, and no one who enjoys using any of those services would want them to have to act otherwise (even if some applaud them when they try to act otherwise in certain cases, even if the services don't, and shouldn't, admit that policing or barring certain content means they are responsible for everything they don't bar).
If these companies felt the legal need to behave as if every use of their service is their legal responsibility, nearly everything good about them would be in danger.
USA Today reports that this is not the first time this argument has been brought to bear:
The lawsuit is the latest to target popular Internet services for making it too easy for the Islamic State to spread its message. In June, the family of a California college student killed in last year's terrorist attacks in Paris sued Facebook, Google and Twitter. Keith Altman, the attorney representing the three families in the Orlando nightclub lawsuit, also represents the family of that student, Nohemi Gonzalez, in the Paris terrorist attacks lawsuit.
The services aren't always neutral in allowing their customers to use them, as noted above and in the suit, and according to Reuters:
Facebook said on Tuesday there is no place on its service for groups that engage in or support terrorism, and that it takes swift action to remove that content when it is reported.
"We are committed to providing a service where people feel safe when using Facebook," it said in a statement. "We sympathize with the victims and their families."
Twitter declined to comment. In August, the company said it had suspended 360,000 accounts since mid-2015 for violating policies related to promotion of terrorism.
Representatives of Google could not immediately be reached.
The three companies plus Microsoft Corp said this month they would coordinate more to remove extremist content, sharing digital "fingerprints" with each other.
That the companies try to do such policing is their prerogative, and will doubtless be used against them in legal arguments to say that since they clearly are not content neutral, failure to sufficiently expunge terror-related communications shows they are responsible for them.
The question of whether Google's ad model equals them being complicit in funding whatever person or entity makes money from that model in a criminal or tortious sense also threatens Google's existence. As the lawsuit states, "For at least one of the Defendants, Google, revenue earned from advertising is shared with ISIS… YouTube approves of ISIS videos allowing for ads to be placed with ISIS videos. YouTube earns revenue from these advertisements and shares a portion of the proceeds with ISIS."
No deviation from an ideal of neutral facilitation of communication could begin to justify the notion that the companies are to blame for the use of their services to communicate ideas that may (or may not have) inspired or in some sense caused Mateen to commit his act of murderous terror, though respect for free speech requires acknowledging that the cause of the mayhem lies in the mind and body of the man who performed it, and he is dead.
The lawsuit itself also details how it believes Twitter's attempts to quash ISIS-related accounts are feeble, narrow, and too easily circumvented, and that the company can and should stop some of the obvious means used by ISIS-related accounts to rebuild and rebrand after they get deleted.
It further argues that the combination of content and ads targeted via algorithm constitute Google's participation in the creation of the content as perceived by a user.
The suit wants the companies to pay "compensatory damages…treble damages pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2333….any and all costs sustained in connection with the prosecution of this action, including attorneys' fees, [and] an Order declaring that Defendants have violated, and are continuing to violate, the Anti-Terrorism Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2331."
Elizabeth Nolan Brown reported recently on the value of the Communications Decency Act in hobbling the attempt to prosecute the people running the Backpages web site.
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Better headline.
Google and facebook complicit in murdering gay people.
Normally I would say that no jury is going to agree with the plaintiff in a case like this, but it's always problematic for potential juries to see that there is an injured party and the other party is rich. Then they just assume it's fine for the company to pay off the plaintiff even if their lawsuit is completely groundless, and ignoring the implications (or perhaps perfectly accepting the implications.)
Ever see "Runaway Jury?" They tried to depict a jury ruling in a case where someone sued the gun manufacturer after a mass shooting, and the deliberations in the jury room were hilarious unrealistic. Then again, they painted that gun maker to be as evil as possible, suggesting they purposely marketed their guns to people planning mass shootings.
A Thinking Mind|12.20.16 @ 10:06PM|#
"Normally I would say that no jury is going to agree with the plaintiff in a case like this, but it's always problematic for potential juries to see that there is an injured party and the other party is rich."
Which is why some get settled and some ambulance-chasers get paid.
This case should never see a jury and the attorneys who brought it should be sanctioned in the quantity of the defendant's attorney's fees.
The former is pretty likely to happen but the latter unfortunately will definitely not happen.
It raises an interesting question though. When the CDA was passed, the existing "interactive computer services" were message boards where the third-party content providers controlled what was presented and in what order, etc.
With FB, Twitter, etc deciding which content to show to its users and which to give priority, do they cross the line from "interactive computer service" to "content provider"?
Sevo|12.20.16 @ 9:51PM|#
"Social media sites sued by families of Pulse nightclub victims alleging aid for ISIS"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tw.....ites-isis/
Almost as much a stretch as the hag losing 'cause Russkis!"
Yer welcome
Great minds, Sevo.
Note the time stamp...
(breathes on finger nails, polishes them on shirt)
Wu Tang!
Might as well blame the people who make the devices they used. And the ISPs. Fuck it, I say we sue all speakers of the English language.
Facebook pushes its users into echo chambers, so they are quite different from an ISP.
"Facebook pushes its users into echo chambers,"
Uh, what?
Facebook shows users content that is similar to what they 'like'', right? If someone likes a diverse set of viewpoints then isn't that what Facebook will show them?
Nobody likes a diverse set of viewpoints.
Sarc? Gotta be sarc.
No. At best seeking out diverse opinions, on matters where you already have an opinion, is like castor oil -- you do it because you know it's good for you. Nobody enjoys having their sincere beliefs and opinions challenged. Our brains are hardwired to favor information that confirms existing beliefs.
Your original post:
"Facebook pushes its users into echo chambers, so they are quite different from an ISP"
So, I'll agree not sarc, just stupidity. Thanks.
Umm no. In view of human nature, FB algorithms herd people into echo chambers.
Fucking agency, how does it work?
" Nobody enjoys having their sincere beliefs and opinions challenged. "
Yep, that's why I listen to Democracy Now, because deep down I'm a Marxist.
Or maybe, just maybe, part of being informed is not only knowing objective facts, but also have some actual appreciation (if not understanding) of just exactly what other people are thinking.
Particularly when those 'others' are the sort Hell bent on getting hold of the levers of power.
Which, not coincidentally, is why the whole 'fake news' narrative is so dangerous. Implicit within is the idea that it is only objectively verifiable facts that are worthy of repeating - anything else being subject to outright suppression.
I have many black viewpoints.
Should also sue the gun manufacturers. Oh wait.
Don't forget bars and bartenders.
"and, men and women of the jury, who was it that made that glass from which my client drank that witches brew?
Why it was the evil and wealthy...."
Why is Youtube not included in this?
AH HA! Why aren't they included?
That raises many interesting questions.
Owned by Google
That was not in the form of a question.
Oh. I don't keep up with that sort of thing.
Google owns YouTube.
Also, in the mentioned Fox piece:
At times, I, too, wonder how the Abbasid Caliphate managed to establish itself without a clearly defined social media infrastructure.
Man, that Khan had a hell of a web site!
How would algebra have come to the West without it?
See? Told ya he had a great site!
To be fair, it took them a whole lot longer, and they had Umayyad structure to work with/take over. Think what feats Muawia would have done had he a Twitter account, though.
I'm guessing this.
Damn, 7th century would be more fun had they had videos like this. Coulda saved some blood at Karballah, too.
The more you learn...
Those caravans over the burning wastes; perhaps a bit more concern with the other guy's butt than otherwise...
SCIENCE!!!!!!
Don't kid yourself. The Caliph's social media infrastructure may not seem like much today, but at the time it was cutting edge.
What about LinkedIn, Instagram, Yelp, and Snapchat?
I sympathize with their pain, but the only person to blame is Omar himself. And any FBI handlers he might have had, but we don't talk about that.
True story* - On advice of counsel, Facebook is withdrawing its sponsorship of this artist
*not really
Ithaca man: "I shot and killed Donald Trump purposely, intentionally and very proudly."
A lunatic is a lunatic whatever his politics, but it's funny that innuendo and lies are good enough to blame a murderous rampage on Sarah Palin, but lefties would never cop to engendering the climate of hysteria that caused this murder.
I refuse to prove I'm not a robot. Give a brother a blockquote, wouldja?
Oooooh. To be fair, UPS drivers do wear brown shirts.
I'm pleased no one is blaming the sore losers on the left for the lunatic, but obligatory:
"See? They told us if Trump was elected, there would be an increase in violence!"
Being triggered by men in furry hats is no laughing matter.
Youtube gives vent to all the stuff which was formerly and properly kept private.
Martin Luther's Youtube channel would've been interesting.
Slippery, meet slope.
lacist
I gotta get me one of these shirts.
The Emperor has one just like it!
may be this link will work better
"who said that? some loser i never heard of"
I want a shirt with quotes no one actually said. Like,
"King George is my bitch"
- George Washington
"Communists have small penises and their food sucks"
- Ronald Reagan
"Oh you have a headache? Take one of these, you'll feel better in a minute"
- Bill Cosby
"Communism is a banana republic without bananas"
-Maduro
"Pennywise was wrong."
-Edward Kennedy
"You Belong to Me"
-Carly Simon or Thomas Jefferson
"Try my diet plan"
-Josef Stalin
"I'm so healthy and happy, I feel like a young girl."
-Roman Polanski
"It's important to get a head in life."
-ISIS
"Nothin' says lovin' like somethin' in the oven."
-Sylvia Plath
"Insufficient furnace?"
"Lackluster stove?"
"Chilly showers?"
"You can end it all with gas!"
-Sylvia Plath's PG&E commercial
"Truth be told, I just don't like Indian cuisine."
- Gandhi
Doherty is so Irish the Facebook/Google/Twitter/Reddit links under his name convert into the Irish flag... out of respect.
Thanks, now I can't unsee it. I guess the only solution is to drink more!
This article misses the main point - censoring simply won't help. Why? Because he would find the 'inspiration' elsewhere. Or he would access 'illegal' web sites and then you have a 'war on incitement'. Do you think that will turn out better than the war on drugs? Terror?
What will help? Start with parents teaching their children right and wrong, not how to act like animals. Don't know where to start? Here's a hint: "In the beginning."
That was rational, AM. Sarcasm?
But why should I object to that term, sir? In our century, we've learned not to fear words.
"The last time this happened I had to deal with three paternity suits."
If the Silk Road guy is guilty, then I don't see how twitter at least isn't culpable. They provide a means for Jihadis to communicate and coordinate with each other.
Isn't that what Silk Road is accused of?
I think the argument is that Silk Road was designed to facilitate anonymous transactions, and the only reason that would be useful is to break the law. Because novody in the history of the world has ever paid cash to keep the feds off their backs. But Facebook and Youtube were designed to share cute kitten videos, and so therefore they shouldn't be held culpable for any unintended consequences of their service.
Personally, I think this line of thinking is BS, and Preet Bharara and everybody else involved in the Silk Road prosecution should be *held down and tickled until they have to tinkle* like the statist assholes they are.
So when can we look forward to progs boycotting these companies?
That would be Islamophobic.
Facebook and Twitter are content providers...
they take an incredibly active role in censoring viewpoints they don't like (anything to the right of Chairman Mao).
They revoked Milo's account for daring to make fun of a Hollywood celebrity by saying she looks like a man!! oh noes!
They have revoked and suspended tons of comment. They have censored critics of Islamism for daring to point out that throwing gays off buildings isn't very "progressive" and Niqjab aren't liberating.
They deleted hundreds of "alt right" accounts while leaving accounts for the Muslim Brotherhood, and ISIS supporters UNTOUCHED.
I personally know trans, gay, and lesbian conservatives and libertarians who regularly receive death threats etc. but that's ok since they aren't left wing.
I'm not saying the lawsuit has merits, but when they decided to take an incredibly active and micromanaging role in censoring political commentary they don't like, and when they claim to have policies against advocating violence but preferentially enforce it against groups they don't like while taking a hands off approach to groups like the Muslim Brotherhood...
well, my sympathy is limited
they do not operate under the Bulletin Board model. they promote themselves as a "community opposed to hate" but their definition of hate only includes that coming from "oppressor class" and right of center individuals.
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