Bill Weld

Bill Weld Gives Up On His Ticket

Why is the libertarian veep shilling for Clinton?

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As if this horrid presidential election wasn't bizarre enough already, Bill Weld, the vice presidential candidate on Gary Johnson's Libertarian Party ticket and the

Bill Weld
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former Republican governor of Massachusetts, went on The Rachel Maddow Show this week and made a solid case against Donald Trump and for Hillary Clinton.

Maybe Gary Johnson's biggest blunder this election season wasn't his infamous "Aleppo" moment, it was picking Weld as veep.

A running mate has only two jobs during an election: Dissing the other candidates and shilling for his own. (Just look at poor Mike Pence going around debasing himself and calling Donald Trump "a good man," refusing to even acknowledge that Trump called Mexicans "rapists" and women "pigs.") This job is important for all veeps, but doubly so for third-party tickets given that they don't have a lock on any major media and can't count on any automatic support or attention. They have to fight for both, and have only their own inner resources to rely on.

But even as many conservative newspapers, such as the Detroit News (where I used to work) and the Chicago Tribune, despairing at their party's nominee, have endorsed Johnson-Weld as the only honorable choice this election, Weld has all but endorsed Clinton.

Weld has always been a #NeverTrumper. He has called Trump a "chaos" candidate "without parallel," someone who makes him fear for the future of the country because of all the hatred he stirs up. These assertions are objectively true — and appropriate coming from the mouth of a rival candidate.

But Weld took the strange step last week of issuing a campaign statement — followed by a press conference — urging Republicans not so much to vote for Johnson, but against Trump. The eyebrows he raised among libertarians had barely dropped when he went on MSNBC on Tuesday and acted more like Clinton's veep than Johnson's. Weld said he had known Clinton for 40 years. He praised her as a "reliable and honest person" — which insults everyone's intelligence given her long-standing difficulties with the truth. But what was even more cringe-inducing than what Weld said was what he didn't say. Not a word against Clinton's plans to raise the federal minimum wage to $15. Or reform ObamaCare by creating a public option to compete with private insurance plans. Or her hawkish neo-conservative foreign policy. Or expensive plans to offer everyone free college. Or any of the million Big Government things that gall libertarians about Clinton.

To the contrary, when Maddow asked Weld if there was any argument he could make to persuade voters in swing states to vote for the Libertarian Party and help it draw the 5 percent vote it needed to qualify as a minority party and receive federal funds — and easier ballot access — in future elections, how did Weld respond? He damned Johnson with faint praise —regurgitating bloodless bromides about how libertarians are fiscally responsible and socially tolerant — and then changed the subject to Clinton again. "I'm here vouching for Mrs. Clinton," he cooed. "I think she deserves to have people vouch for her other than members of the Democratic National Committee."

This is ungrateful and irresponsible.

Johnson stuck with Weld despite massive opposition from his party. Weld has not returned the favor. Indeed, delegates at the Libertarian Party convention were on the verge of electing another candidate as Johnson's running mate because they were unimpressed with Weld's libertarian bona fides — and with good reason, it turns out.

As my Reason colleague Jesse Walker has noted, for a brief moment in 1991, Weld became a poster boy for libertarians who wanted to work for Republicans because he was a pro-gay, pro-choice governor who talked a good game on fiscal responsibility. But then he let state spending run up on his watch and turned into a law-and-order candidate who was squishy on gun rights and easy on the use of eminent domain. Libertarians rightfully soured on him.

Yet Johnson made a strong pitch for him at the convention, no doubt because he hoped that Weld's policy chops, superior articulation skills, and fundraising prowess would strengthen the ticket. In fact, even Weld's "impurity" was possibly an asset in that it would generate media interest and help mainstream the LP.

The Libertarian Party was never going to win. However, it had a rare opportunity to propel itself from the margins and become a political force to be reckoned with. But thanks to Johnson's gaffes and Weld's apostasy, things haven't worked out that way.

Weld was perhaps a good gamble — but his Clinton-hugging is just a bad joke, which is a pity for his adopted party, his candidate, and the country.

This column originally appeared in The Week.

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  1. ‘Reason Foundation Senior Analyst Shikha Dalmia’
    I’ll just leave that with you.

    1. yes, dalmia works for the Reason Foundation ehich publishes Reason Magazine which publishes this website. Are you surprised that Reason employs its writers?

      1. Surprised that they actually employ this induhvidual. Dalmia is garbage.

        1. I totally second that! I always thought she was some leftist columnist hired by reason over “pity quota” meant to keep some contrarian people on payroll.

          1. My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can’t believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do… http://www.Trends88.com

    2. I know she has a reputation, but I didn’t find anything questionable here. This case you probably should have read the article first.

      1. Bullshit.

        She wrote: “…Trump called Mexicans ‘rapists’ and women ‘pigs.'”

        That is bullshit. She is a liar.

      2. Aside from her lying about Trump calling Mexicans rapists, this was an almost ok article. She still should be fired immediately, of course.

  2. Weld was perhaps a good gamble…

    Um, no he wasn’t.

    1. And even if he was (he wasn’t), we lost anyway.

    2. Perhaps he’s gambling on a Supreme Court seat from Clinton 45, for playing Pat Buchanan to Trump’s Al Gore

  3. Isn’t there a “1 shikha-story per weekend” limit? this is cruel and unusual.

    1. It’s mostly a reprint of Thursday’s article, so…technically we are still on one per weekend?

      1. 1.25 really. They’re gradually exposing us to more of her work in the hopes we’ll develop an immunity to it.

        1. On the other hand, if she’s properly libertarian-minded and gets some pay out of reprint, it’s at least the third time she got paid for the same thing (The Week, Reason Thursday, Reason today). I can respect that.

          1. It’s a sweet gig. All you have to do is wrap some jumble of thoughts straight from your amygdala in bad prose and moral condescension. And research? You can make a statement with a direct link to something that completely contradicts it and it still works because nobody reads the article! Then resell it multiple times and you’ve got your Ramen noodles for the week.

            I wish I could get away with shit like that at my job.

            1. I bet you work at a job that dings you for bad spelling.

              1. If you’ve seen how much I John-it-up in the comments you’d doubt it.

                1. Are you the one who is AKA the Long-Johns Silver?

                  (My long-johns are BROWN, I haz been runnin’ THAT scared of a “Prez Donald” for THAT long, yes!)

            2. ‘Reason Foundation Senior Analyst Shikha Dalmia’ — “I wish I could get away with shit like that at my job.”

              Perhaps a better title for her would thus be:

              “Shikha the Shitsy Shiksa”

        2. People actually read the articles?

          1. I am not a professional derpetologist, but I am a connoisseur of stupid, and Dalmia’s articles are always good for it.

            1. amazing that a libertarian would support libertarian immigration policies, is it?

              1. Are you saying there is only one libertarian position on immigration?

                1. There is one published in the platform. In simple language for people who have never read a platform it goes: We SHOULD everyone come and go as they please, but NOT SO FAST! Let’s turn away creeps known to be dangerous.
                  So it is pretty much a Teddy Roosevelt declaration that is hard to find fault with.

                  1. Yes, it is a stupid position. It is stupid particularly since implementation of it will eliminate any hope of establishing a wider libertarian society.

                    After, the best way to get libertarian ideas more widely spread in the nation is to quickly import a few million people who were raised to believe in totalitarian socialist government.

                    1. No, the best way to spread libertarian ideas is to import a few million people who ran the fuck away from totalitarian socialist governments…

                    2. Because they vote libertarian when they get here, right Ronin?

                      Oh, they don’t? Shit, your plan is as retarded as Dalmia.

  4. Kind of makes you wonder about who Johnson’s cabinet picks would have been.

    1. I’m sure he would have picked people of experience and gravitas, people with names familiar and agreeable to all the right people. You know, the same old shit.

    2. I love Johnson’s SCOTUS picks.

      1. Kozinski, Barnett and Rogers-Brown are all great picks. The Senate would never, ever let those three get as far as confirmation hearings. Congress will never allow someone on the court that would properly limit congressional or executive power as the Constitution demands.

    3. Not David Duke. He’s already spoken for by the Redneck Don for Special Assistant to the President and Executive Director of the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. But we might have Bernie as Chairman of the Federal Reserve if the bookies are any good at the math they live by. Bookies have Gary and McMuffin neck and neck at 100 to 1 odds–basically a Designated Survivor hedge bet.

  5. Hope whatever he got from Hillary was worth it.

    I’d hate to think he did it for nothing.

    That being said, if he gets appointed to something by President Hillary, we should actively work to deny him confirmation.

    Protest movements can’t let people treat us this way and profit from it.

    1. Because that works. He saw a sinking ship, and like all rats, decides to jump and swim for it.

      Hillary can appoint him and be seen as willing to work with the other side. She gets something good. He gets to be ambassador to somewhere nice.

      Johnson lives, learns, maybe gets 5% and funding and access for someone like Austin Petersen to squander in 4 years and make the party look even worse.

      1. Unless he’s a complete moron, he had to already know this ship was going to sink when he boarded it.

        Getting in the limelight and being in a position to do a favor for Clinton was clearly the point all along.

        1. Johnson started it! Hillary was a good public servant – remember that?

          1. She wasn’t merely a “good” public servant: she was a fuckin’ “wonderful public servant”.

            1. They’re gonna vote Clinton, apparently.

          2. That was the early mistake that should have been a red flag on how the LP run was going to go this election.

            With anti-establishment positions being extremely popular this election and an opportunity for the LP to flaunt their ‘outsider’ status, what do their candidates do? Immediately praise the most establishment candidate in the election. Hell, even if you’re freaking Weld and actually believe that nonsense, don’t say it, you morons.

        2. Bingfuckingo. He actually seems to be a bit smarter than Johnson so I’m going to have to go with Weld being a sack of shit snake in the grass.

          1. I wonder how many folks would cane you if you yelled Bingfuckingo at a Bingo game?

      2. There was never a feal ship, only a Revell model. Nonetheless, Weld is a rat.

      3. Weld is a rodential- nautical metaphor

          1. When the steamboat hits an iceberg & Leo & Kate have hot, passionate sex

      4. He’s using Glenn Beck talking points.

        1. Wow, Glenn, I forgot my tin foil hat Beck?

      5. Let’s be fair! Austin Petersen would be a vast improvement over anything the Republican Party has nominated lately.

    2. He’ll get 30 pieces of silver and a pat on the head.

      1. Don’t forget the cocktail party invite!

        1. Hillary Clinton: Gary & Willy – my favorite libertarians! Thanks for your support 🙂

    3. I rather doubt that he’ll get an official appointment from Hillary.

      He’ll probably just get a no-show job from the Clinton Foundation as a token for his political courage, and some “access” to the Clinton Administration that he can turn into some big-dollar invoices for lobbying services.

      But he might get that ambassadorship that he’s always wanted.

    4. I hope Weld slips in the shower and breaks his weasel neck.

  6. Wow – completely wrong. Weld is a hero and a patriot. He was one of the first people to raise the alarm on Trump – “I could hear the glass crunching on Krystallnacht.” He supported Johnson for as long as he could, but he was constantly undermined by Johnson’s stupidity. Just watch any town hall or interview with them both and you could see it. Even Johnson knew it, which is why he kept saying “Vote for me and you’ll get Weld too.” Which was his way of saying, “I know I’m an idiot, but Weld will do the job.” Weld held in there like a champ for as long as he could. But now that the republic is at stake, he had to make a choice. His party can be proud – if Hillary wins at least we’ll have a country in 4 years for which they can run again for office.

    Jill Stein approves this message.

    1. “He was one of the first people to raise the alarm on Trump . . . “.

      Bullshit.

      Kevin Williamson was.

      In fact, Kevin Williamson coined the term “Trumpkin” for Trump supporters and “Witless Ape” for Trump himself.

      Here’s the NRO article:

      http://www.nationalreview.com/article…..williamson

      So go fuck yourself, you weirdo Weld-loving freak

      1. LOL so you basically completely agree with me. You’re a witless Nazi Trumpkin freak.

        1. Are you admitting you are wrong, Weld is no hero & was not one of the first to raise the alarm on Trump?

          Are you admitting you were wrong & will never again attribute Weld for being a hero or a prophet?

          Are you?

          1. Weld is a hero and a patriot and was one of the first to raise the alarm on Trump. Was he a prophet? OK, I guess in a way. I’ll give you that one as well.

            1. Repeatedly saying things that are wrong gets you attention.

            2. When the revolution comes, Hillary loving pieces of shit like you will be dealt with. I hope your suffering is great.

      2. Williamson is a. Offer Ass clown and professional imbecile than shreek. How dare your u make shreek seem sympathetic.

        1. Offer Ass clown

          This seems like a good argument against legalizing prostitution.

        2. Hmmm. You sound like Nick Gillespie. Just. Like. Nick.

          Is it here? That libertarian moment?

          1. OK John Paxton.

    2. AddictionMyth|11.6.16 @ 12:19PM|#
      “Wow – completely wrong. Weld is a hero and a patriot. He was one of the first people to raise the alarm on Trump – “I could hear the glass crunching on Krystallnacht.””

      So, not only was it from a fucking ignoramus, it’s from one stupid enough to copy and paste it somewhere else.

      1. I’m fairly certain at this point that he’s doing this as parody.

    3. Here have more attention.

    4. “if Hillary wins at least we’ll have a country in 4 years for which they can run again for office.”

      That’s a damn rosy picture you’re painting for a war monger. Then again you haven’t met an Obama foreign intervention you didn’t like so why would she be any different.

      1. “Jill Stein approves this message”

        = parody

        Jeezuz, people!

    5. …Is AddictionMyth a paradoy account or a serious one? I go back and forth on this.

      On the one hand, people generally seem to hide any craziness and at least try to come across as reasonable people, someone open to discussion at least a little bit.

      Then again, Hinn is a poster, so what I see as too ridiculous to be serious is clearly a poor judge of what is and is not legitimately held opinion.

      1. I mean, I ask the same questions about Jill Stein. So perhaps the world is consistent in its own strange way.

  7. Just look at poor Mike Pence going around debasing himself and calling Donald Trump “a good man,” refusing to even acknowledge that Trump called Mexicans “rapists” and women “pigs.”

    Or you could just look at Johnson trying to put a brave face on having to defend an embarrassingly awful running mate. Or the LP trying to put a brave face on having to defend an embarrassingly awful pair of candidates.

    1. Awful? Maybe, but still the cream of that crop… by MILES.

    2. Or the LP trying to put a brave face on having to defend an embarrassingly awful pair of candidates.

      A pair of candidates that they chose… so not much sympathy here. Especially since Johnson had run an awful campaign in 2012 as well, they can’t claim they didn’t know better.

      My question is whether Johnson has the cajones to come back to run for the nomination in 2020.

      1. Third time’s the charm.

      2. Who else did they have? Who else could have done better? No one running would have been better. If you disagree, I’m afraid you are not being honest with yourself.

        1. No prospective candidate would have done better but either Peterson or McAfee would have done a much better job of spreading the libertarian message. This election was yet another missed opportunity because the chances of winning or even getting five percent were basically zero no matter who was on the ticket.

          1. That’s just fantasy. McAfee would have further relegated the party to its lunatic fringe stereotypes. Petersen would have made all libertarians look like assholes and douchebags.

            1. Johnson has done a terrible job of spreading the message and will do a terrible job of getting votes. Peterson is a twat who believes in libertarianism, McAfee is a brilliant lunatic who believes in libertarianism, Johnson is an awkward and inarticulate nice guy who sort of believes in libertarianism and, in hindsight, has squandered an opportunity.

              Libertarians sold their souls for respectability and votes and they have failed and will fail to achieve either-a failure in my book.

            2. You’re right. Better to have a VP candidate endorse an atrocious opponent and have a Presidential candidate and party chair not repudiate and withdrawl such VP. There’s some mainstream admirable qualities, right, doesn’t tarnish the message at all.

              Also how has Johnson expanded the libertarian message? By using the terrible cliche and unprinicpled libertarian is fiscally conservative socially liberal or were best of both parties.

        2. What is your criterion for being better?

          Vote percentage? The 2-3% that J/W gets will be due to not being Trump or Clinton, not due to any personal qualifications or inspiration. Peterson (or any random libertarian) would have been just as good at not being Trump or Clinton. It’s also likely that the Johnson-Weld public trashing of libertarian philosophy and Weld’s de facto endorsement of Clinton turned even some of the L base from voting for them.

          Public perception of libertarianism? Yeah, they got some media coverage — where they presented a bunch of center-left bullshit, not libertarianism. And they poorly fumbled their appearances, making libertarianism look like a laughing stock. Peterson may not have gotten as much media coverage, but in this case that would have been preferable to Johnson’s opening his mouth and proving what he was.

      3. Nick Sarwark said no – this is Johnson’s last run for office.

      4. Johnson has stated that he’s retiring after this run.

        1. he retired midway thru

          1. Good one

          2. “I want to spend more time with my bong.”

            I’m afraid he does tend to invite these “dope-smoking Republican” cliches.

            1. is he a “dope-smoking” Republican, or a Republican Dope that smokes dope?

    3. Awful, but not compared to the DemoGOP candidates, or Barr or Stern. In fact, only bad compared to John Hospers and Ed Clark. Besides, all they have to do is sit tight while we elect a bunch of mayors, councilcritters, statehouse buffoons and maybe a governor, senator, some congressmen and a RailRoad Commissioner while skewing a couple of thousand tight races. That’ll change some laws.

    4. Oh, Johnson is just putting on a brave face over his selected running mate. It needs a brave face for his inconsistency, failure to do his homework, and tendency to say dumb stuff.

      All in all, Weld actually fits into the Johnson narrative pretty well.

  8. A slightly modified take on Chris Rock:

    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America’s Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn’t want to go to war, and the Libertarian Party is the last best hope of the beltway establishment.”

  9. Perhaps we can get a “Reason re-set” once the election is over, this latest gem is yet another in the long list of misguided commentaries we’ve been subjected to over the past year.

    Clinton/Weld 2016!!

    1. You mean “Reason over-charge”?

  10. Just look at poor Mike Pence going around debasing himself and calling Donald Trump “a good man,” refusing to even acknowledge that Trump called Mexicans “rapists” and women “pigs.”

    “poor” Mike Pence? He knew what he was getting into when he agreed to be Trump’s VP. Frankly I was floored by the fact Trump had any existing officeholder willing to run with him, as it’s basically a career-ender.

    1. And, in fairness, Trump called specific women “pigs.” The wording suggests he meant all of them.

      1. Glad we got that cleared up. Surely NOW women’ll overlook the threat of having to go back to coathangers for birth control if God’s Own Prohibitionists get their way. (Paddypower bookies take note!)

        1. Take your meds, Hank.

      2. And he was also referring to specific Mexicans. The whole sentence is pure bullshit. Is she claiming no Mexican has ever raped anybody? Or that some women are not in fact just as piggish as any man?

        You could much more accurately claim that Hillary referred to half of America as “deplorable,” however even that is a mischaracterization of her actual words.

        Fuck this Shika bitch. What a pig.

  11. “someone who makes him fear for the future of the country because of all the hatred he stirs up.”

    It’s a good thing the sitting president, the current democrat nominee, and the media havn’t stirred the hatred pot for th last 8 years, otherwise Weld would be full of shit.

    1. So privately calling out “Bitter Clingers” was stirring hatred up? And this against the deplorable swath of rednecks who refused to acknowledge he was born in the US or even American? Trump is their spokesman.

      The hatred is there all right. But your ilk apologizes for the most ridiculous hatred of all – the hatred of racism.

      1. I don’t apologize in the least! I openly mock it!

      2. “The Democratic Roots of the Birther Movement”
        […]
        “Long before Trump started in, Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, recognized this potential vulnerability in Obama and sought to exploit it. In a March 2007 memo to Clinton (that later found its way to me), Penn wrote: “All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared toward showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting it in a new light,” he wrote.”
        http://www.bloomberg.com/news/…..r-movement

        Note the source: That member of the VRWC, Bloomberg!

        1. How did that work out for the Clinton campaign?

          1. “How did that work out for the Clinton campaign?”

            How come you keep moving those goal posts? Is it a result of your single-digit IQ?

          2. “How did that work out for the Clinton campaign?”

            She’s about to be President, so, pretty well it seems.

      3. “Privately”… What does that word mean in your fucked up world?

      4. “calling out “Bitter Clingers” was stirring hatred up?”

        It wasn’t?

        “And this against the deplorable swath of rednecks who refused to acknowledge he was born in the US or even American?”

        Awww poor thing! So put upon!

        1. To be fair, Obama’s own bootlickers and fan club circulated flyers saying he was born in Kenya, and he never bothered to correct them until the Constitution would otherwise get in the way of his plans. You can see these over at realclimatescience.com by flipping back a few weeks. There were several different versions. Ironic as it seems, Obama was arguably the first birther.

          1. Here we are. “Who Was the First Birther”, with images from 1991…
            http://realclimatescience.com/…..t-birther/

      5. Calling anyone who disagrees with presidents position a racist IS stirring up the motherfucking hate pot.

        Look, I know you’re a racist piece of shit who thinks that black and brown people can’t do anything for themselves and that their votes belong to Democrats, but the rest of us happen to think they are individuals that deserve equality of opportunity.

  12. I haven’t liked Weld since day 1.

    1. He says nice things about you.

    2. I haven’t liked him since he flunked Stossel’s softball questions.

    3. My wife voted for Weld for one reason — he attended the same high school she did.

      1. Better reason that the fucking lunatics on my facebook feed who voted for Obama because “great teeth”/”Michelle’s arms are everything!”

        Fuck me.

  13. Crossposted for visibility:

    Just beautiful: Clinton ordered her maid to print out classified emails
    http://www.foxnews.com/politic…..rials.html

    So not only did she mishandle classified information, she’s one of those idiots that insists on printing out emails. I wonder if she shredded them afterward.

    Let’s just relax and watch Hillary make a fool of herself for 12 minutes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXU0iU97aT0

    Yesterday I went to a fun place in San Jose called the Real Escape Room. I think it started in Japan. You get locked in a room with a bunch of strangers and have 1 hour to find the key so you can escape. We had to find clues, solve puzzles, and dismantle furniture. We found the key, but we did not figure out the combination to the lock in time. It was a lot of fun.

    1. Good person, totally not a criminal, fine public servant, and not at all a dumbass who should have seen the repercussions of this email stuff from a mile away.

      1. Hillary Clinton is many things, but she is not a dumbass.

        She knows that she is above the law, and she knows that her supporters are dumbasses.

        1. She is very much a dumbass. Clinton’s been insulated from the real world by the wall of toadies that she built around her. She actually believes that she’s a fucking genius and no one seems to have the cojones to disabuse her of her delusions. Without real world feedback the mind collapses and Hillary’s mind wasn’t that solid to begin with.

          This is common among politicians. Obama has never made first hand contact with reality. He’s always had someone around him to protect him from the world. He promulgates obvious falsehoods with the confidence of a child reciting his Sunday school bible verses but with even less understanding of the meaning of the words.

          1. That description fits Obama like a glove, but Clinton? She’s been deeply involved in the dirty work of her political machine. She’s probably stupid about economics and other issues, but not at all about politics and how to get more power.

      2. Well, Nixon’s secretary only erased those tape recordings by accident… or with the best of intentions, and HE certainly wasn’t a crook. He said so himself, right there on teevee.

      3. They probably thought the email server would never be discovered. And they were almost right. The email server issue was discovered completely by accident. And of course, it looks like there will be no repercussions even after it was discovered.

        Had she been conducting business on a government server, she would have been in way more hot water.

    2. Just beautiful: Clinton ordered her maid to print out classified emails

      Nothing to see here. Move along.

    3. Just beautiful: Clinton ordered her maid to print out classified emails

      Well that just sums up the New Aristocracy, doesn’t it? At least old-style aristocrats knew that correspondence is handled by private secretaries, not household help.

      1. He, the hag asked that woman: ‘Please don’t read them’. Isn’t that sufficient?

        1. Not to worry, her maid probably does not speak english.

      2. The household help used to be for making the beds and banging, not for important tasks.

        1. “And you knew who you were then…!”

          +1 Herbert Hoover, again

      3. Is she a lady’s maid – like Anna Bates?

    4. She also had a SCIF installed in her house, which she gave her maid had access to, despite her lack of clearance of any kind.

      So it would be more of like a CIF. Or just an IF.

      1. Or just an IF.

        That depends on what the definition of “if” is.

      2. The maid has the beach & the cloth to wipe the server.

        It all makes sense.

    5. If it’s coed, you just get into a big pile, right?

  14. “The Sociopath”: New Documentary from RedState Contributor

    http://www.redstate.com/joesqu…..we-brings/

    Worth watching.

    1. turd, if you think something’s ‘worth watching’, it;’s guaranteed to be a waste of time.

    2. The Loud-Mouthed Cunt: A New Documentary on Palin’s Buttplug.

      Pay your bet, oplichter.

    3. “The Sociopath” was the guy producing it called Ben Howe. And yes, he is desperate, broke & an Egg McMuffin shill

  15. The other problem with Weld’s credibility is that he did on Maddow’s show exactly what Maddow predicted Weld would do weeks before.

    1. I am soooo happy never to have wasted any life expectancy watching Rachel Maddow. I searched her photo expecting to see that obnxious fat blonde. Luckily, it was some total stranger.

  16. I look forward to the rending of GOP garments beginning Nov 9th.

    WHAT? MERICANS DIDN’T WANT OUR LOUDMOUTH IGNORAMOUS RACIST CON MAN?

    Seriously, any existing GOP Senator could beat Hil-Dog by five points.

    1. “I look forward to the rending of GOP garments beginning Nov 9th.”

      Yep, you probably ought to post someplace where Trump is a hero, or you can keep beating on that strawman here.

    2. No shit. But your fellow Dems nominated this shithead in open primary states. Nice work, asshole.

      1. No no, it’s just further proof that bleevers and fly-over country are nothing but racist xenophobes.

      2. I seem to recall getting skewered in these parts for suggesting that Trump’s nomination was illegitimate due to Dems voting in OPs. Not sure if you were involved in that angle, but you never stuck up for me, and were involved in attacking me for being anti-Trump in other ways. So get lost.

    3. Yes, but in their usual way, the Republicans found the one candidate that could lose to a corrupt screeching harpy.

      It’ll be a lot harder to do this again in 2020. The Republican party will be so small by then that it might be a statistically impossibility to find another such awful candidate within party ranks. The will have to import one from another party. Maybe Jill Stein will agree to let the Republicans endorse her.

      For info regarding the 2020 election contact William Weld, chairman of “Green Republicans for Stein”

      1. “. . . the Republican party will be so small by then . . .” it will be the size of the Libertarian Party

    4. Bookies TODAY are betting 5 to 1 the pro-choice looters win and 4 to 1 the antiabortion Jesus freak looters get fragged by the voters… again! But hey… Herbert Hoover destroyed the economy killing and jailing people for felony light beer back when pot was legal. All it took was 24 years for voters who understood the causal connection to die off. That would make another nationalsocialist republican fall due in 2032–assuming folks are as easily gulled today as they were in 1952.

  17. Quebec is ready for Democrat refugees if Trump wins.

    Coderre stands by Montreal police chief, says he won’t have ‘public lynching’

    Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre has come to the defence of his police chief after more revelations surfaced Saturday related to the tracking of two La Presse reporters.

    Coderre said in a tweet this morning that his “definition of civilization doesn’t include public lynching” and that Montreal police Chief Philippe Pichet already addressed the latest spying revelations in a statement on Saturday.

    This guy, BTW, is theoretically a Centrist Reasonable Federalist Liberal, not some kind of uber-commie nationalist protecting his own.

    1. Maybe enough of them will emigrate to shift the elections away from the PQ.

    2. As long as they stay the fuck away from Ontario I’m cool with this. We’ve got enough problems and professional asshats.

    3. He’s a dirtbag.

    4. I saw the list of idiots who threatened to leave. I highly doubt any of them are coming to Quebec with all the French language laws. They’d come and leave right away.

      Stay the fuck home and stop being a bunch of pseudo-self-righteous douchebags and stand by your fucken country assholes.

      1. **HEAVY SIGH**

        Nah, all the U.S. whiners’ll do what they usually do (that is, if they actually pull the trigger, which is almost never) ? they’ll wind up here in British California? and probably make Vancouver even more left, green and insanely unaffordable to anyone except rich leftist douchebags. 🙁

        1. Aw man, now I wish that would happen. So they can run headlong into Rich Chinaman Exclusion Real Estate Tax!

        2. Anything but that! Tell them to watch “Blue State” over and over, and run stories about the cold and damp. If Canada legalizes and These States fool the bookies by again going nationalsocialist, there’s gonna be a stampede northward, and there went the neighborhood!

  18. Bill Weld is a towel.

    1. You mis-spelled “tool.”

      1. He wiped the server, so towel tool. FTFY

    2. No, you’re a towel!

    3. Towels are actually useful and valuable, unlike Weld. Tools too.

  19. I am trying to imagine what the next four years will be like if Hillary wins. The investigations just go away? That cloud is going to hang over her no matter what she does, it isnt going away anytime soon.

    1. Anyone who says that there is a cloud will quickly be dealt with. After that, mentions of clouds will end.

      1. And the word “cloud” will be stricken from all history books.

  20. During one of the Johnson/Weld town halls on TV, Weld called marijuana ‘dope.’ His expression at the time seemed to be of an uptight elite prude, just like Clinton.

    Weld must be a dope for shilling for the lying racist warmonger Clinton.

  21. “Celebrities who said they’ll leave America if Trump wins”
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/art…..592241.php

    See? These folks are kind enough to help us pick the best mouse in this horse-show.
    If the loud-mouth wins, can we help ’em along with a boot in the ass?

    1. If I thought they actually meant it instead of just socially signaling that would be good news.

    2. “Celebrities who said they’ll leave America if Trump wins”

      *yanks lever for Trump so hard, bolts sheer*

  22. Is anybody else getting a bunch of fucked up adware shit going on when you click a link on reason today?

    1. I use AdBlock, so no.

      1. 12 blocks as I type this. I

  23. Weld is an SJW entryist.

  24. . (Just look at poor Mike Pence going around debasing himself and calling Donald Trump “a good man,” refusing to even acknowledge that Trump called Mexicans “rapists” and women “pigs.”)

    Dalmia, this is just insulting. People here actually read the news. You’ve taken what Trump said entirely out of context. I understand why Trump used the terms when he did, and there is nothing about using those terms in the context in which he used him which makes him not “a good man.”

    I wonder if you’re “a good woman” when you twist things like that.

    1. And speaking of Republican shills, sleepers, moles and infiltrators…

      1. Trump said that SOME Mexicans were rapists, and they are. They are, at a higher rate that typical in the US BECAUSE of cultural differences between societies. Forcing yourself on a woman you are married to in the US is still rape, it is NOT in Mexico. Having sex with a 14 year old is a rape in the US, it is NOT in Mexico.

        Trump said that some women are pigs, and some of them are. Unfortunately, it appears the more piggish they are the louder they are as well.

        By the way, one of the very good reasons borders should not be open and immigration should be controlled is so that new immigrants adopt the culture of the US rather than supplant it with their own by force of numbers.

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  26. Should the senior analyst be a little more precise about who was called “rapist” and “pig”. Or has she been getting e-mails from Podesta?

    1. I forgot that two weeks after he made the rapist statement Kathryn Steinle wasn’t actually raped.

  27. Why is the libertarian veep shilling for Clinton?

    Because he’s been friends with Hillary Clinton since working on the Nixon trial with her and he’s a goddamned mole, you useless idiot.

    Jesus, how fucking dense can you be?

    1. Mole, like the Go-Pee sleepers that pile in here swearing they were all set to vote libertarian until Gary, the pothead, brought them down by not guessing what towns on the other side of the planet they wanted to bomb for Jesus.

      1. You are not an addle-brained moron, and you don’t embarrass the comment section every time you post.

  28. Gary was a relief to get, compared to the rest of the wannabees. But I had never heard of Weld, and wish I still hadn’t. This was an opportunity to run someone more like Tonie Nathan. This business of running recycled, refurbished or rejected republicans is turning out to be as bad as running disgusting media jerks. Fortunately it’s not as bad as running disgusting real-estate agents or has-been machine politicians, but that’s hardly the benchmark we want.

    1. Bob Barr.

  29. Maybe come 2020 the Libertarian Party might think about nominating a couple of actual Libertarians instead of the opportunists that it usually nominates.

    1. It would be nice.

    2. It was by elimination. We had an Antichoice infiltrator, a commie anarchist infiltrator, a man on his deathbed and a butthurt noob just 12 weeks into the party. Gary was the (not good but) best choice out there.

  30. Incidentally, I’ve noticed that the articles are increasingly listed as “Reason Staff” on Hit & Run. My theory is that this is happening because readers have noticed that articles written by Soave, Suderman, and Dalmia are increasingly leftist propaganda and their numbers are down while people still read articles by folks like Shackford, Gillespie and Welch (because they’re not leftists).

    Guess it’s a moot point, since I’m done reading Reason after this election, until Katherine Mangu-Ward is removed as editor in chief. If I wanted to read disingenuous arguments from social justice warriors, I’d just surf Occupy Democrats’ page…I can get better analysis nowadays from The Daily Caller.

    1. The “Reason Staff” blog posts are just introductions of longer articles written by another author. I’m cool with that usage, since they’re just summarizing what the longer article says.

    2. Soave’s posts have the highest traffic (they’re mostly clickbait, let’s be honest) so your theory fails.

      1. Based on the comments, I think most of his traffic is Reason regulars showing up to insult him.

    3. Bua ha ha ha ha! And your handlers bought you a Reason subscription to spew forth this pathetic whining? By all means, go to the John Birch or Klan blog and troll for Drumpf votes.

  31. Trump said some Mexicans are rapists, that is a fact as some Mexicans are rapist. The coyotes leave the underwear of the female illegals on rape trees.

    “Rape trees are trees or bushes that mark where sexual assaults have occurred by arranging the victim’s undergarments on or around the trees branches or on the ground. “Rape trees” are commonly and increasingly found along the United States and Mexico borders as illegal immigration grows.”

    Trump called a women a pig, Rosie O’donnell proves that is fact.

    “During a radio interview, Rosie O’Donnell said, “I’d like to take my period blood and smear it all over Christians’ [or pro-life people’s] faces.”

    It seems Shikha is oblivious to these facts in her swipes at Trump. As for Weld, well what can you say. He knows Hillary and according to him she is a fine moral upstanding role model that all of us should emulate.

    What about Gary Johnson sir, Weld responds “Who, oh that guy he is okay, a little flaky but yeah Hillary is great!” Okay I channeled my inner Weld for that quote. Just know Trump is the devil, Hitler, racist, sexist, woman kissing celebrity fascist according to Shikha

  32. Wikileaks and other hackers have revealed Clinton to be a two faced liar, and the collaboration between her faction and the media (you would hardly know Donna Brazile resigned if you followed just the MSM) is at unprecedented levels. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for any libertarian candidate to sell out to Clinton.

    I will vote for Jill Stein before I vote for the LP ticket this year. Jill Stein was more principled than the LP ticket this election year. Donald Trump made a better VP pick than Johnson. How did that happen? Johnson had 7% ish support even after the Aleppo gaffe. The guy is a mush mouth nobody. He turned out be a little better than that kooky pizza delivery guy who some people her liked because “he has experience in the private sector”

    1. “…you would hardly know Donna Brazile resigned if you followed just the MSM…”

      Well, CNN did say: “Shucks.”

  33. Why would anyone want to elect someone who loses their “heart” so easily. I’m sure he’d throw his constituency under the bus just as quick.

    1. And he did.

      Connecticut did not have a state income tax until Weld championed it as the solution to all their problems. The Democrats could not get it done, they required the help of a liberal Republican named Weld.

  34. What terrible click bait.

  35. Uh oh. They might not win now.

  36. If he really had good relations with Clinton in the past, Weld could have shaken his head sadly and said, “I’m disappointed in Hillary Clinton’s recent behavior, I expected better.”

    But to suggest his confidence is unimpaired even after the latest revelations – that is delusional.

    1. Yeah, Weld helped push me into voting Trump, because with Weld, it’s no longer adequately “fuck you” to Hillary. This was nothing like the Aleppo gaf, which was a trap and understandable, forcedish mistake. This, there is no justification for Welds action.

      So, fuck Weld, fuck Johnson for tying his fate and the libertarian party’s fate to this man. I’m voting Trump, even though I know it will do practically nothing.

      If he wins, well, maybe we’ll have another shot in 2020. If Hillary wins, and she pushes through all the restrictions on speech she wants, further turns the government into a Democrat party machine, well, I did the best thing I could have done in the situation to try and stop her. Hopefully we will still have the option to seriously run in 2020 and the Republic will still be savable.

    2. Yeah, Weld helped push me into voting Trump, because with Weld, it’s no longer adequately “fuck you” to Hillary. This was nothing like the Aleppo gaf, which was a trap and understandable, forcedish mistake. This, there is no justification for Welds action.

      So, fuck Weld, fuck Johnson for tying his fate and the libertarian party’s fate to this man. I’m voting Trump, even though I know it will do practically nothing.

      If he wins, well, maybe we’ll have another shot in 2020. If Hillary wins, and she pushes through all the restrictions on speech she wants, further turns the government into a Democrat party machine, well, I did the best thing I could have done in the situation to try and stop her. Hopefully we will still have the option to seriously run in 2020 and the Republic will still be savable.

      1. Same here. With Trump, if he’s awful at least we get to choose again in four years. With Clinton, I don’t think that’s a given.

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  39. Sitting here ROFL, and crying in my beer at the same time. (Its a hard act to follow.) I can’t say how often I have ripped the candidates the Libertarian party picked for Pres, and VP, but I know its been so often that I have lost count. Now with Weld doing what he has done, it only makes my complaints look even more legitimate. With this and all the rest of the debacles along the way, the alt-constitutional conservative right has concluded that the Libertarian party is no longer a viable avenue to get the message of the libertarian ideals out to the American people because the candidates the Libertarian party did chose, didn’t even know what the libertarian ideals were, Worse yet, Reason, and a portion of their writers have lambasted Trump, and been willing to believe the fairy tales spun by the MSM about him, while all but giving Hillary a free go by. Now none of this has made any sense to me, but maybe it wasn’t meant to, since, after all, both the Pres. and VP. Libertarian candidates have at some point endorsed Hillary over Trump, and made it clear that they would rather see a progressive left wing candidate win the White House, than a Republican that has turned the Republican party on it’s ear, and all but financed his own campaign, while calling for reforms that most Libertarians should be in favor of. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot, its all there, some of you just don’t see the red yet. .

    1. YES! Wail and gnash those nationalsocialist chops. Cry, you worthless brainwashed pile of nerf-droppings! Thought you’d bully those bitches into squeezing out Hitlerjugend cannon fodder for the Baby Jesus, didja? May your every candidate lose by 1% while the libertarian candidate gets twice that… disgusting loser scum.

  40. Gary should have picked Andrew Napolitano as his running mate. Hands down, the best Libertarian debater alive today.

    -jcr

    1. Napolitano is a national socialist girl-bullier exactly like every one of God’s Own Prohibitionists. Eat Paddypower and die a slow and painful death! Mua hahahahahaha!

  41. Ah yes, Shikha the blithering blathering idiot strikes again.

    Trump said that SOME Mexicans were rapists, and they are. They are, at a higher rate that typical in the US BECAUSE of cultural differences between societies. Forcing yourself on a woman you are married to in the US is still rape, it is NOT in Mexico. Having sex with a 14 year old is a rape in the US, it is NOT in Mexico.

    Trump said that some women are pigs, and some of them are. Unfortunately, it appears the more piggish they are the louder they are as well.

    1. Damned if Shikha didn’t just gain 15 points in my estimation. That national socialist christianofascists contrive to take offense at what she writes is the best recommendation a gal can have in my book. And BTW, when God’s Own Prohibitionists shrieked in 1924 that prostitutes in Portugal were licensed at age 14, that was the age of consent in Huey Long’s Louisiana! Je je je je je!

  42. douche bag gonna do what a douche bag gonna do…

  43. Sad when the Green Party, much more ideologically aligned with democrats than libertarians, does a better job pointing out the flaws of Hillary Clinton than Weld.

    1. It’s sad when the candidates of the Green Party, who generally advocate socialism, display more intellectual honesty than the candidates for the Libertarian Party.

      Jill Stein may be wrong on most of the major issues, but she comes by being wrong honestly. Bill Weld comes to it by being a backstabbing shit-weasel, and Gary Johnson comes to it by being an inept milquetoast with terrible character judgment. If you’d told me before the election that I’d consider the Green Party candidate better than the Libertarians, I would have said you were nuts…but I’d damn sure vote for Stein over Johnson/Weld.

      1. ANOTHER fascist Republican?! Is it raining nationalsocialism in These States? or just this blog? Jill is like the Republican tax collector described by Lysander Spooner during Reconstruction: “The secret ballot makes a secret government; and a secret government is a secret band of robbers and murderers. Open despotism is better than this. The single despot stands out in the face of all men, and says: I am the State: My will is law: I am your master: I take the responsibility of my acts: The only arbiter I acknowledge is the sword: If any one denies my right, let him try conclusions with me.” Jill is offering to do as Lincoln’s Red Republicans did in sending tax collectors to eat out our substance. She is more honest about it than Republicans. That and doesn’t want men with guns to kill her friends over hemp or bomb children on the other side of the planet, or again force women into coathanger birth-control. Bye Federalists, bye Whigs, bye nationalsocialist Republicans…

  44. I don’t think the Libertarian ticket is interested in winning. This may have been their opportunity, but they’ve blown it for sure. I wish hard-core Libertarians were willing to build coalitions with Mormons and other freedom-loving religious people who were willing to accept other’s freedom in exchange for our own – but when we want freedom, it’s considered “hateful” because it is unpopular. Well, enjoy President Clinton.

    By the way, people say religious folks won’t vote for an atheist, but I would have made cold calls and stumped for Austin Petersen in a heartbeat. As it is, I voted for Gary, but most of my friends didn’t.

    1. The libertarian ticket is definitely interested in changing the laws. One spoiler vote is worth 6 to 36 sucker votes squandered on looter soft machines, mom.

  45. I don’t understand why this article needs the Trump/Pence bashing anyways. It’s about useless Bill Weld.

    1. Reason has to keep bashing Trump/Pence because they don’t want to lose their seat at the cool kids table (ie, the DC cocktail party circuit).

    2. Reason has to keep bashing Trump/Pence because they don’t want to lose their seat at the cool kids table (ie, the DC cocktail party circuit).

      1. More! Please gush some more Godly Prohibitionist sour grapes Make Amerikkka Grate recriminations. I never even knew there was such a thing as a schadenfreudegasm before, but now I’m feeling the Johnson. Whine, Republicans, yelp, whine and thrash! If Herbert Hoover was any indication, you looters will be kept out of it for another 16 years! Eat bloody shirt and die, National Socialists!

    3. The prohinazis are losing 5 to 1 in bookie odds–like a Jim Morrison song! The poor desperate bastards are spamming and trolling everyone within reach of their collapsing house of crud as the clock ticks down to three losses in a row–two to a Kenyan and now to a Grrrrl! Waffen Bush’s faith-based asset forfeiture crash, like Herb Hoover’s sacrifice of the national economy on the altar of superstitious bigotry, ought to be worth at least four more defeats out to the Year of Our Lord 2032–assuming nobody new learns how prohibitionist fanaticism in political platforms leads to economic depression when enacted into law.

      1. Good lord Hank, you are one of the most incoherent and stupid motherfuckers to post on this website. Your monomaniacal word salad indicates you are badly in need of some Thorazine.

  46. RE:Bill Weld Gives Up On His Ticket
    Why is the libertarian veep shilling for Clinton?

    This is why I didn’t want a recycled politician like Weld running for president on the LP ticket.
    He’s a pussy, doesn’t know enough about the issues and showed where his loyalties are when endorsing Heil Hitlary.
    Perhaps in 2020 the LP will nominate an intelligent and brave candidate for the executive office.
    We’ll see.

  47. It only adds to Gary’s image as a guileless ingenue being stilettoed in the slats by infiltrating moles, fakes and impostors. Rhode Islanders surely can spot treacherous creeps.

  48. So disheartening to be a Libertarian. At the national level, such the amateur hour. Rand Paul being the only exception.
    The specter of Jesse Ventura still haunts the party

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  51. There are no mexican rapists.
    No women are pigs.

    Just wanted to clarifiy the BS the author is spouting.

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