California Becomes 32nd State to Pass "Right to Try" Law for Terminally Ill
Terminally ill patients in Golden State will now be able to legally use medicines not yet out of the FDA's approval process that might help them.
Arizona's Goldwater Institute has been the national leader in promoting "right to try" legislation, which allows terminally-ill Americans to legally try medications that have passed just Phase I of the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) approval process but are not as yet legally available via doctors. Passing Phase I means that the agency is at least satisfied that the medicine can be used safely.
Today the Institute announces that, with a bill signed into law by California Gov. Jerry Brown, that state becomes the 32nd state to pass a version of that law. Brown had vetoed a similar law last year. The Institute's press release notes that "Right To Try is limited to patients with a terminal disease that have exhausted all approved treatment options and cannot enroll in a clinical trial. All medications available under the law must have successfully completed basic safety testing and be part of the FDA's on-going approval process."
KPCC radio's website has more details on the California politics:
Patients must meet a number of requirements to qualify for the program, including that they have only a matter of months to live and that two doctors recommend they try the experimental drug.
The passage of the measure caps a two-year effort by Calderon. Last year, Brown vetoed similar legislation Calderon authored. The governor said he did so because he first wanted to see whether changes in the FDA's Compassionate Use program reduced the minimum 30-day wait for experimental drugs.
And while the feds did streamline some parts of that program, patient wait times remained the same, the bill's supporters say.
Alex Manning's Reason TV video on the right-to-try movement:
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"Right To Try is limited to patients with a terminal disease that have exhausted all approved treatment options and cannot enroll in a clinical trial. All medications available under the law must have successfully completed basic safety testing and be part of the FDA's on-going approval process."
Patients must meet a number of requirements to qualify for the program, including that they have only a matter of months to live and that two doctors recommend they try the experimental drug.
Take that state bureaucracy!
I've read the Model Right To Try legislation, and it's a mirage. It lays out certain things that people "may" do. But what difference does that make if it's not already illegal in that state? It doesn't even say people may do this notwithstanding other laws. I think the people at the Goldwater Inst. just have a misconception of pharmacy law.
But what difference does that make if it's not already illegal in that state?
FDA is federal, you know. So it's basically the same thing as legalizing medical marijuana.
As a practical matter such legislation is unlikely to do much. The drug company risks annoying the FDA if it provides drugs and they are not going to do that . Moreover the shipping of drugs or biologics across state lines without FDA approval remains illegal . So long as the FDA maintains it's stranglehold on medicines and medical device thousands of people will suffer and die needlessly . FDA approval should be a service , like underwriters labs that manufacturers can avail themselves of if they choose to reassure customers . If the FDA and Fed vanished most diseases would be cured and lifespans would increase substantially with good health very quickly .
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You know, the guy probably spent at least a couple hrs getting his auto post software to work. I say we all report spam. Poor guy. (Disclaimer: I have used auto post software, and have done my penance.)
Does the report spam button actually do anything anymore? It seems to do nothing but amuse the squirrels.
Did it ever do anything?
The very first day they implemented it, it seemed to work. But after that....it's like the button they put on stoplights for pedestrians.
Was anyone else aware that a bunch of lefty music knobs were singin' for gun control yesterday?
They'll totes make a difference you guys if we just pay attention to their message!
But maybe next time they'll let people know it's happening and we can all get our groovy anti-gun feels on at the time instead of the next day. I feel cheated!
Remember when rock stars thought they could fix Africa?
They did, didn't they?
And family farms.
Reason from April 2005
When all their bodyguards disarm themselves, I'll take them seriously.
Me, I'll laugh at the public for believing they've disarmed their bodyguards.
I confess: i laughed out loud at that sequence.
Also getting a raised eyebrow from me was the Santa Barbara show, which looks like the "Monsters of Yacht Rock"-reunion
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Sponsored in part by Uber. I hope their business crashes.
Let me know what Charles Mingus wants me to do and I just might give half a fuck.
You sound as angry as Charles Mingus about it.
No one is,was,will be as angry as MIngus.
Man got into fist fights over drum fills.
I hate people but that dude had inspired misanthropy.
Let's give 'em something to talk about, how about gun-control gun-control gun-controoooooool?
DAMN YOU! will i ever have an original thought?!!?
WHO CARES really, washed up rock people
It's not all good. Moonbeam also signed a measure into law requiring Certificates of Authenticity for any object sold with an autograph on it. This effectively ends all book signings in California and makes the sale of signed paintings difficult as well.
Post on that in progress, though it might not be up til tomorrow.
What?!? I have to put credence in croaker?!?
What's the world coming to.
Fuck these guys, and fuck the FDA. People who are terminally ill should be able to take whatever medicine they think might help them. Assholes.
Also, a reminder: just having "organ donor" on you driver's licence doesn't mean they can use your organs; your next of kin or spouse can deny the request. Make sure you tell your family that you want them to honor your wishes in regard to organ donation.
I'd like my estate to sell my organs after I die.
I'd be willing to sell some of my organs right now.*
*not an euphemism.
And that idea, selling your organs now for people to have after you die, would save thousands of lives. There just are not enough organs available for all the people who need transplants. But of course, can't do that, because poor people might sell their organs! And icky!
If more people had loved ones die for lack of a suitable donor, the laws would change. I am NOT wishing for more people to experience this; it is horrible and not something I would wish on my worst enemy.
Yeah, about that...we sold a futures contract but we didn't predict your death date very well so if you could just lie down here on this table...that'd be great....
I don't know why I bothered; it's not like too many organs from the Commentariat are going to be suitable for transplant, anyways.
Hey?!
People should be able to take/consume whatever they want period.
I remember back when this was a libertarian principle, before all the revisions.
People who are terminally ill should be able to take whatever medicine they think might help them
I'm going to go way out on a limb here. One that will make progressives poopey their pants.
People who are terminally ill should be able to take whatever medicine they think might help them
Good point.
BUT THEN TEH CORPORSHUNS WILL POISON PEOPLE AND STEAL THEIR MONEY!!!
(honestly, this is basically the reaction you get)
And my answer to that?
"Well then shut the fuck up about your rights and keep being a slave".
Yeah, that doesn't actually work.
the short of it is, people honestly have a near-religious belief that "Food and Drugs", without the blessings of the Shaman-master FDA, would be converted overnight into some cartoon parody of the Wild West Snake Oil Salesman/ Simpsons "Tomacco" conspiracy
everything would be instantly converted into 'addictive' products which provide near-zero nutritive or medicinal benefit but which make wild unproven claims of efficacy which no one is competent to evaluate.
what's odd is that this almost universal belief requires people to assume that individuals are all completely amoral, consumed by greed with no concern for its impact on their credibility, and seek nothing more than to exploit and poison their fellow man ASAP;
and, simultaneously, that these same universally untrustworthy individuals suddenly all become beneficent, charitable, competent, and motivated solely by the good of the citizenry once they enter government, and wield regulatory powers over private industry.
Once there ... why, then whatever the status quo happens to be... is by definition for the best of everyone; and questioning whether that is in fact the case is utterly heretical.
What's weird is that a few people here ("libertarians") more or less made that argument the last time we talked about the 'dietary supplement' industry.
What I really want with my corpse but can't get is for it to be turned into a high school biology classroom skeleton.
People who are terminally ill should be able to take whatever medicine they think might help them.
FTFY
Thank you. That is better.
I live to help my fellow libertarians, no thanks is necessary.
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This is just drug manufacturers preying on the desperate with the possibility of a treatment.
Fuck you.
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I think it was Huxley who said he wanted to be given a massive dose of LSD on his death bed. His wife gave him two just to be sure.
If I found out I was terminally ill today, I'd probably try shrooms and acid.
In other news, I decided to make my election prediction. I say Trump wins with 47%, Clinton 43%, Johnson with 9% and Stein with 1%. I predict Trump wins the swing states of FL, OH, NC, WI, IA, GA, and AZ.
Ok. How are your studies in pig Latin coming along? Or are you done?
Acid > shrooms. And it's not very close, either.
Stack 'em.
They both serve their own purpose
I've heard that Peyote is a different beast too. Not that I would know, someone told me. Also, most LSD is fake. Someone told me that also.
And thank your benevolent government for this, since if you want to ingest a substance into your own body, that your all benevolent and loving government has not given you permission for, you'll have to rely on a (possibly less than reliable) source to tell you what is actually in it.
Hillary got zero poll bump from last night's debate and Trump is already wining all the states you listed, except for WI. Trump also won every single post debate poll except for CNN. Even Slate, Time, and other mostly left sites.
I'll be honest, the more I think about it, the more I do not give a fuck who wins this. But I think Trump is going to win. Hillary is just not able to pull off any sort of likable. Also, a poll was just released that show only 36% of the public believe Hillary is healthy. Which should be obvious to any sentient being.
I don't know, man. I'm doing my voodoo on her every night at black mass, but I think the demon she signed a deal with out ranks the demon I signed a deal with. I tried sticking pins in her doll's eyes last night, and she just blinked a lot.
Maybe she will make distrust of government so strong that finally something will be done about the abuse of we citizens. If she can't do it, no one can.
Yeah! Hey, maybe they could come up with some kind of law, you know, limiting the power of government? That would be awesome.
I read the journals of Albert Hofmann in the Sandoz laboratories in Basel, Switzerland, with LSD. Very interesting stuff.
Flip Clinton and trump.
Excellent. Does that include currently 'controlled substances'? I doubt it, but still, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
In other Commiefornia news, the Commifornians get to vote on whether someone has to put a thing on their mister winky before sticking it in the oven to entertain other peoples.
Proposition Porn
Gotta love those liberals, they want the gubmint to get out of their bedrooms and get into their sex videos! And their wallets. And their cars. And their homes. And all of YOUR stuff.
If a substance isn't scheduled (controlled), and it isn't approved for prescription use in the US, how does the FDA have any jurisdiction over it at all?
Because FYTW?
Well duh. Since Prohibition, any damn thing the federal wants to do, it does. At least Prohibition they passed a damn amendment.
The only reason cannabis is starting to cause the authorities to back off is because of it's widespread popularity and more than 50% from the public to be legalized. Anything less than that and the feds won't think twice about frying your ass over any innocuous substance they might find you with, currently illegal or not.
IOW, did you ask permission? Did you get it? No? You're fucked.
The Kefauver Harris Amendment to the
United States Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
You need to fix the first link.
Here you go:
Kefauver Harris Amendment
Or maybe not...
The FDA is probably sabotaging the link.
Until approval, it's just a research chemical.
If the FDA can say it is "marketed" as a drug (and they do) it is an unapproved drug. They fucking regulate dental floss as a medical device and have burned books as illegal "promtional materials". The FDA should top the list of federal agencies to be abolished. They're the standout in a sea of otherwise worthy contenders.
FDA in most cases doesn't assert jurisdiction over substances, but over articles of commerce.
It is when we are dying that the state's claim on us is clearest I think.
I remember going to Texas to be with my mother when she died. She was waiting for me to come, and said to me when I got there "I think I can die tonight- is that OK with you?" Of course I said yes. We'd had a chance to say goodbye, and I didn't like seeing her in such pain.
She lived another five days, in great pain. There was a point when I asked her "I have enough Morphine here to end this now. Should I?" She was only partially lucid at that point, but she didn't want me to, and in retrospect I am grateful to her for that. She knew that the drugs were closely tracked and that I might be charged with murder in Texas, and that that would not be a good thing for me.