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Trump Slams Clinton for 'Superpredators' Video

I guess you could call this a pivot.

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If you had "Donald Trump denounces over-the-top law-and-order rhetoric" in this week's pool, step up to collect your winnings:

The clip shows Clinton speaking in New Hampshire in 1996; the description in the tweet isn't precisely right, but it really is an appalling video. Even as America was entering a long decline in violent crime, Clinton was warning that subhuman monsters were on the prowl. "They are not just gangs of kids anymore," she announced. "They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators. No conscience. No empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel."

That moment became infamous during the 2016 primaries, and Clinton eventually apologized for it, though her apology focused on her choice of words rather than the ideas underlying her language. The primaries also saw her make a show of supporting some sorts of criminal justice reform, though she stopped well short of endorsing the systemic changes required to reverse the mass incarceration she played a role in building. So while the candidate has walked back her comments, it is perfectly legitimate to bring them up, both to remind people of her past and to push a more serious reform agenda. But that critique sounds hollow coming from Trump, who has been running on exactly the sort of hopped-up law-and-order talk that Clinton was spouting in her superpredators speech. It's been just a month since the man was invoking some recent attacks on police officers to declare Obama's America "a more dangerous environment than frankly I have ever seen, and anybody in this room has ever watched or seen." That's just as absurd a piece of fearmongering as Clinton's claims about monster gangs.

By the way: Were you wondering where Clinton got that word "superpredators"? There was a whole superpredator panic in the '90s, fueled by a small group of criminologists who later conceded that they'd been wrong. The most influential was John J. DiIulio Jr., the neoconservative academic who told us that "the demographic bulge of the next 10 years will unleash an army of young male predatory street criminals who will make even the leaders of the Bloods and Crips…look tame by comparison." Last fall I wrote a post here at Hit & Run about that panic, and you can find more details by reading it. It includes that same Clinton clip that Trump highlighted. In fact, the YouTube video that he linked to was the very one I uploaded so I could embed it in my post. I'm glad to see it enjoying a second life; I just wish I could believe that either one of these candidates was serious about moving in a different direction.

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  1. I like this new Trump campaign. Hillary’s past, and often her own videotaped words, should be the focus of his campaign from here on out. They can easily fill news cycles from now to the election with nothing by questions about what she has said and what she has done. And what she plans to do with the Foundation.

    1. Yep, she’s got enough baggage to keep Samsonite in business and she (and her apologists) shouldn’t be allowed one day of ‘putting it behind’ them.

    2. As much as I despise Trump, this was the campaign rhetoric that I have been praying would come out of him. He has no reason at all to hold back on Clinton. She deserves every thing that is coming.

      1. Exactly, this was what I was expecting from Day 1 of the Trump nomination. You’d be an idiot not to have some interns combing through years of Clinton recordings to find every idiotic or horrible thing she’s said. If they can make Romney and Obama’s dog treatment a story Clinton’s past is a gold mine.

        1. I have daydreams of Clinton behind a podium, clutching her heart, during the middle of a debate.

          1. from what I have seen, there are videos of her doing everything but. From coughing fits to hysterical cackling for no good reason to basically spacing out to her resembling a bobble-head speaking with a few reporters.

            1. I am just waiting for the full-on coronary. Bonus points if Trump actually causes it.

          2. I have daydreams of Clinton behind a podium, clutching her heart, during the middle of a debate.

            No. A good-old fashioned aneurysm. A nice, berry stalk one. Or a a stroke resulting in 70% of her decrepit body paralysed.

            I want that big fat pile of treason to suffer; she doesn’t deserve a quick, sudden, merciful cardiac arrest.

            1. Thanks. I will update my day dreams.

            2. Or a a stroke resulting in 70% of her decrepit body paralysed.

              The pisser is that you know she’d still win the election. Apropos of this morning’s thread, she could die, and 50% of the electorate would still vote D. Even if they didn’t live in Missouri…

              Whatever it is, or is to come, I just hope that it’s extremely painful for her.

      2. Yeah, that’s one redeeming feature of Trump. He’ll probably say what we’ve all been thinking about Hillary.

  2. Has The Donald finally been co-opted by the establishment pod people? Between this and the walking back his immigration position he has been strangely cucky.

    1. Are we really sure that he “walked back his immigration position”? The MSM so often distorts what he says that I no longer believe any headlines about him.

      1. Are we really sure he actually has any positions?

        1. 1. He doesn’t. Well, one position – get elected.

          2. Just because he’s not pushing one that’s turned out to be kind of unpopular doesn’t mean he’s walking it back.

          1. He doesn’t. Well, one position – get elected.

            And it’s hard to tell how serious he is about that one.

    2. Trump says nothing was walked back. Don’t know who to not believe here!

      1. I think at this point in time he’s just saying blatantly contradictory things and relying on the fact everyone knows that the media has a bias against him to sow doubt cause people to have no idea what his actual positions are, at the same time emphasizing the horrible things about Clinton. So we get a Trump who may or may not agree with whatever any given person’s policies are, and a Clinton who is just terrible.

        1. That sounds dangerously close to 3D Chess.

        2. I’m not sure whether he’s aware of it or not, but i don’t think most of Trump’s support comes from folks who are even looking for him to HAVE positions aside from not being Hillary Clinton.

          1. Those people had a choice between lots of different “Not Hillary’s” and they picked Trump.
            Did you already wipe the Republican primary from your memory?

    3. strangely cucky.

      I still have no idea what that fuck people really mean when they say “cuck”

      Joe Rogan tried to explain it but my POV seems the same as his which is (roughly) “its so fucking dumb its not worth it”

      1. I have seen some videos on the internet that opened my eyes to that term.

      2. I honestly have no idea either the only place I’ve seen it used is here.

      3. Standard Trump supporter: “Anyone who actually recognizes that Trump existed and said things before 2015 that may make his positions now insincere.”

        Alt-right: “Anyone who claims to be against leftism but doesn’t agree with every piece of white nationalist, anti-Semitic bullshit I spew.”

      4. I still have no idea what that fuck people really mean when they say “cuck”

        Wikipedia says:

        Social conservatives who use the term condemn what they see as Republicans running on socially conservative values to appeal to their base during an election cycle, only to use vote trading to compromise on those values while in office.[13] The term cuckold has a long history as an insult implying that a specific man is weak and emasculated, and may even feel pleasure at his own humiliation because of sexual masochism. The term cuckservative similarly implies that certain male Republicans are humiliated through their actions while feeling thrilled and excited from their own degradation because of the abandonment of their own moral standards.[3][15]

    4. Don’t disparage cucks. *hides behind the drapes*

  3. There’s always a certain number of criminals of any age or race (but largely one sex) with no visible signs of a conscience…until they change their thinking they’re quite dangerous.

    But as for an epidemic of superpredators, that seems to be an exaggeration.

    1. @Jimbos2002 has opinions and stuff that need to be heard.

      1. I’m glad Trump is finally getting serious and courting the @Jimbos2002 vote.

    2. O brave new world, in which significant political maneuvers begin with “@Jimbos2002”!

    3. What did Jimbos do in 2002 that made him want to commemorate it in his twitter handle?

      1. Jim is 14 years old. He’s running Trump’s Ohio office.

        1. dang it.

        2. I’m hoping he’ll be Trump administration’s Attorney General.

      2. well it’s twitter so that is probably when he was born.

  4. “…John J. DiIulio Jr., the neoconservative academic who told us that “the demographic bulge of the next 10 years will unleash an army of young male predatory street criminals who will make even the leaders of the Bloods and Crips…look tame by comparison.”

    Did this guy also tell us about the debil-worshipping kiddy-care folks?

  5. the description in the tweet isn’t precisely right, but it really is an appalling video. Even as America was entering a long decline in violent crime, Clinton was warning that subhuman monsters were on the prowl. “

    On the contrary, when placed in their context, Clinton’s words were prescient.

    1. Ugh white people are the absolute worst.

    2. On the contrary, when placed in their context, Clinton’s words were prescient.

      Indeed. Little known fact: An argument over this YooToob video begat that Pumpkin Riot.

      They’re almost CHUD-like…

      1. Now i’ve got THAT stuck in my head for the rest of the year. Thanks a lot, jerk.

    3. The black man never would have put up with that gay bottle-throwing shit.

    4. I hadn’t actually seen video of that yet (I was just happy that the stupid ass pumpkin fest was likely to end).

      Pretty weak excuse for a riot if you ask me.

  6. ” No conscience. No empathy.”

    Wow, it’s almost like a Clinton describing a Clinton.

    1. “Takes one to know one.”

  7. I’m worried about the superduper predators who get hopped up on 4 Loko.

    1. And get elected president.

    2. They changed the ingredients in that, it used to be a caffeinated super weapon for kids looking to be raped at high school and frat parties. Now it’s just like a regular weapon.

    3. Mix that with teh bath saltz and you’ll get your long sought after cannibal rape gangs!

      1. Rape, kill, eat! Not necessarily in that order.

  8. Obligatory:

    “But that critique sounds hollow coming from Trump”

    You knew it was coming.

    1. But that critique sounds hollow coming from Trump, who has been running on exactly the sort of hopped-up law-and-order talk that Clinton was spouting in her superpredators speech. It’s been just a month since the man was invoking some recent attacks on police officers to declare Obama’s America “a more dangerous environment than frankly I have ever seen, and anybody in this room has ever watched or seen.”

      So, Hillary says something specifically about black superpredators, and that’s the same as Trump saying that recent attacks on police officers are something new and dangerous?

      Just because both are wrong doesn’t mean one cancels out the other, you know.

      1. But if Trump says it, it’s automatically racist because Trump. Therefore, no difference.

      2. Anytime Reason says anything negative about anyone on the left, or even talks about someone else saying something negative about anyone on the left, there’s now a hard set requirement of some sort to shortly after insert a “but something something”. It’s more predictable than things outside will get wet when it rains.

        1. Those cocktail party invites don’t come out of thin air. 😉

      3. So, Hillary says something specifically about black superpredators, and that’s the same as Trump saying that recent attacks on police officers are something new and dangerous?

        Trump, who lived in New York in the 1970s, said that America today is “a more dangerous environment than frankly I have ever seen.” Yes, that’s pretty absurd. (Also, Hillary didn’t “specifically” say “black”?though it’s pretty clear who the people fanning fears of “superpredators” were worried about.)

        Just because both are wrong doesn’t mean one cancels out the other, you know.

        They don’t cancel each other out; more like they double the horror.

      4. No one said they cancel each other out. Just that it doesn’t sound very sincere or principled coming from Trump. Which I think is fair.

  9. Maybe he finally figured out how to tank his campaign completely. haha

    1. I am not surprised you are okay with racist generalizations like “super predator”. I can’t put my finger on why, but it doesn’t surprise me for some reason.

      1. What the fuck are you talking about? I’m referring to how Trump’s going to piss of his own base by criticizing Clinton’s racist use of “super predator”.

        He couldn’t alienate enough people by being racist, so now he’s going to alienate people by being anti-racist.

        1. I’d wager Trump’s base don’t care at all that he’s bringing this up.

        2. how was he racist exactly? Noticing that illegal immigration has ushered in some bad actors is reality. So is noticing that Islam is infected by an 8th century form of barbarism. And neither Mexicans nor Muslims are a race anyway.

          1. It’s racist because TRUMP!
            Do you see?

            1. of course. How did I miss that?

          2. He was endorsed by David Duke and refused to disavow him.

            1. “I didn’t even know he endorsed me. David Duke endorsed me? Okay, all right. I disavow, okay?”

            2. Who did Al Sharpton endorse? Do you think that is a similar problem?

        3. Sometimes, I think your picture of Trump voters is just a boogieman from your nightmares, Hazel.

          Your picture of a Trump voter seems like Freddie Kruger only he uses racial slurs a lot and is against gay marriage.

          I don’t think it’s really like that.

          I’d like to ask you, Hazel, to try a thought experiment. Imagine some candidate markets himself as an anti-elitist icon. Is it possible for someone to market himself that way and not seem like a troglodyte to you? If so, what does that guy look like, and how is he different from Donald Trump?

          1. Wasting your time Ken…she is Ready For Hillary!

            1. [S]he is Ready For Hillary!

              Like, Huma-level Ready For Hillary?

            2. I’m voting for Johnson, dipshit.

            3. she is Ready For Hillary

              That’s just mean.

          2. Imagine some candidate markets himself as an anti-elitist icon. Is it possible for someone to market himself that way and not seem like a troglodyte to you?

            Absolutely. He can do so by actually being informed about the issues and by not making bizarre ignorant statements every few days demonstrating his utter lack of comprehension of the simplest concepts , including grammar and the English language.

            Or is “being informed” synonymous with “elitist” to you?

            1. No, “being informed” isn’t synonymous with elitist to me, but sometimes I think anti-elitist means stupid or racist to you.

              And what you just described there sounds like more of an aesthetic issue with you. As if you don’t like the style of the people who support him.

            2. As if you don’t like the aesthetic tastes of yokels everywhere, and you’re using Trump as a whipping boy.

        4. Uh, I’m pretty sure the Breitbart guy is putting him up to this trolling. I can’t think of anyone that would get Trump’s base better.

  10. Anyway it looks like he lost Irish’s vote.

    1. BTW, where’s Irish?

      1. Klan meetings started cutting in on his H&R time.

  11. I suppose since they are too busy killing each other, they really don’t have time to be “super” predators.

  12. Hillary Clinton is an elitest jerk? Who would have thought?!?!?

  13. OT: Social Experiment – A little girl, little boy, a cat and a dog left alone in a park. Guess who gets rescued quickest (or not at all).

    1. It confirms everyone’s bias!

      1. It is clearly evidence of male privilege.

    2. the results may surprise you

      Or not. That’s the exact order I expected.

    3. Well no men are going to stop to save anybody for fear of being accused of being kiddy diddlers.

      1. ^this^

        Once my wife and I were walking by a church near a busy street. There was a little boy – maybe 2 or 3 – on the sidewalk with no parents nearby. My wife went to talk to him, and figured out he had escaped from his parents who were inside the church. She brought him in while I stayed outside.

        1. Yeah, sad to say I would be extremely reluctant to think about trying to help a kid in distress for just this reason.

      2. Not too surprising the dog and even the cat were rescued while the boy was ignored, seeing as males are expendable because male privilege and patriarchy. I wonder if the results would differ in a suburban park rather than Manhattan’s Washington Square.

        1. superpredators start young

    4. The cat had to be caged so it wouldn’t run away. Nuff said.

    5. Remember when “social experiments” where just called “Candid Camera skits”?

      1. Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to.

  14. But that critique sounds hollow coming from Trump

    Trump’s actually been quasi-consistent in his rhetoric RE: black issues. For example, he’s included a line in his anti-immigrant rants to the effect that we are importing refugees while making blacks economic refugees in our nation by letting immigrants take jobs that would have traditionally gone to them.

    Not sure you can judge the likelihood of anything by Trump rhetoric, but there it is.

  15. Somewhat related, maybe-

    Are sociopaths made, or born? Certain young children with whom I am acquainted seem to be devoid of empathy or the ability to read the emotions of others.

    1. Assburgers is a thing. Do they torture small animals or wet the bed?

      1. Law and Order SVU has some interesting episodes on the subject. I establish a lot of my opinions based on episodes from that great show.

        1. I assume you’re joking, because of course you know that show is just make-believe and has little to do with reality, right?

          1. I’m pretty sure watching Law and Order qualifies as some sort of pathology.

    2. Empathy isn’t fully developed until some time in adulthood.

  16. In a way, this is the only direction Trump can go. There is a real ceiling on support for his glorious leadership of our republic.
    But he can start slicing away at the lackluster support for The Hillary. Blacks aren’t going to be racing to the polls like in ’08 and ’12.

  17. By the way: Were you wondering where Clinton got that word “superpredators”? There was a whole superpredator panic in the ’90s, fueled by a small group of criminologists who later conceded that they’d been wrong.

    But they got their money, grants, interviews on NPR, the whole bit.

    1. How many moral panics could we count up?

      The wide cult of Devil Worshippers / Child Molesters comes to mind.

  18. You know who else could be considered a superpredator…

        1. Great minds, Switzy.

  19. Why can’t we get more transcripts of the Obamacare 1.0 hearings that were held behind closed doors?

    1. They wiped, like with a cloth.

  20. Anyone who thinks Trump is a shithead and he’s a shithead for going after Hillary’s law and order shitheadery–because Trump says the same shit too?

    Is basically admitting that Hillary Clinton is a shithead’s shithead.

    P.S. Shithead.

    1. Birds of a shitfeather flock together, Randy.

    2. IT’S PRONOUNCED SHI’ THEY ED!

  21. They’re not “crack babies” any more – now they’re “flakka babies”. Coming soon to a face near you, and then you’ll be wishing they only had robbing and raping on their mind.

  22. This is the only good thing about Trump’s candidacy. If he can make her and her sycophants squirm on her march to the White House, that’s the most I can hope for.

    1. I hope he gives her a nervous breakdown during the debates. Then at least something good happened this election.

  23. You know what I’m afraid of? SuperRedditors!

    1. /downvote.

  24. I find Hillary’s comments so detestable and have been showing my disdain for what she said by wearing my super predator t-shirt out to the park each weekend. Every reaction I receive is universally opposed to what she said. The jeers and boos and insults and threats come from everyone young and old, black and white, or male and female. I think Trump could have himself a really big winner.

    1. Do you wear that shirt while you drive around your PokeVan?

  25. The most influential was John J. DiIulio Jr., the neoconservative academic who told us that “the demographic bulge of the next 10 years will unleash an army of young male predatory street criminals who will make even the leaders of the Bloods and Crips…look tame by comparison.”

    Well, he was 90% percent correct, wasn’t he? He just didn’t realize that the demographic bulge he was referring to was centered in places like Kabul or Mosul.

    1. And Nice. Don’t forget Nice.

    2. Saw some fairly inhuman types around Basra too.

  26. No conscience. No empathy.

    Hm. This is how I’d describe Hillary, The Wicked Witch of the Midwest.

  27. Though I despise Hillary with a passion and would normally take this as an opportunity to inveigh against her as is my wont, I have to say that this issue is a loser for Trump. She can easily backpedal and apologize and leave Trump in the lurch. (I’m shilling for Jill these days. Hi Jill!)

    1. Oooh! Nice. You like an anti-vaxxer who thinks wi-fi causes cancer in kids…

  28. “Make no mistake, they’re are here, collecting trophies made of Haitian gang members and murdering Bill Paxton. They hunt in our Central American jungles, our L.A. concrete jungles, and their offworld nature preserves. And we lack the Schwarzeneggers and Glovers to stop them.”

  29. Hillary’s past, and often her own videotaped words, should be the focus of his campaign from here on out.

    Yes.

    Not just the words. Her deathless question, “What difference, at this point, does it make?” really needs to be seen. Her smarmy condescending tone and smug bitchface made me want to jump through the teevee and stab her in the eye with my mechanical pencil. Repeatedly.

  30. Do they torture small animals or wet the bed?

    I certainly wouldn’t rule out bedwetting.

  31. Sounds like the #MAGA train is filling up with cosmos.

    ALL ABOARD!

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