2016 Democratic Convention

The California Delegation's Hillary Haters

Those boos you hear are coming from a very pissed off group of Golden State Bernie Sanders supporters, who aren't keen on voting for Clinton.

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If you are watching the Democratic National Convention at home, you may notice that most any time a new speaker talks about why we should unify behind Hillary Clinton, or merely says her name out loud, there is a minority chorus of boos emanating from the side of the stage. That's about 30 percent of the California delegation, and I just spent an hour sitting next to them, and boy do some of them despise Hillary Clinton.

Anthony Fisher and Robby Soave have reported previously today on the antipathy toward Clinton among Bernie supporters, but watching the wild-eyed hooting among the Golden State faithful was a startling departure even from the anti-Trump dissonance at last week's Republican National Convention. These people are pissed and despondent in a way I've never seen on the floor of a major-party convention.

"I was lucky a couple of weeks ago: I shot a squirrel to bring home for meat," said Brian Seligman, a former Marine on Social Security disability from a car wreck, who recently moved from the Los Angeles area to Victorville. Seligman says his wife can't find a job, and when the food stamps run out at the end of the month he needs to find creative ways to feed his children.

"This isn't just my family," he said, voice welling with emotion, tears beginning to pool in his eyes. "There are 15,300,000 children STARVING in this country, and this woman wears a jacket worth more than I get in a year, while she goes out talking about how she's going to blow up other people's children for another trillion dollars. My kids are dying and she wants to murder other people's kids with my money!"

The Bernie Sanders revolution, which will officially fall short of its goal tomorrow when Clinton is voted the nominee, has Seligman thinking of next steps. "That's happened in history before in France, and their solution was guillotines," he said. "And another great Democrat, John Kennedy, said when peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable. And I don't want that, I want people to wake up and vote for someone that cares about people. Bernie comes and he said thank you to ME, personally, he shakes my hand. I've been outside her fundraisers in Beverly Hills, because I didn't have the $55,000 to get in. She didn't want to talk about my homeless brothers and sisters from the military. She didn't want to talk about my starving kids, she didn't want to talk about ending fracking, even though there was a freaking gas leak poisoning us. Yeah, you could say I'm a little upset."

Ben Becker shares Seligman's distaste for the opulent pageantry in Philadelphia. "It's disgusting here," Becker said. "There are people who are really suffering. The point of the Bernie campaign was to create equality, it was to take money out of politics, and to help the people who are struggling in this country, and instead we're just throwing money and partying and playing music with the bands, and these cute little clips making Trump look bad."

Becker plans to keep booing throughout the convention, and will vote for Jill Stein.

Mark Withers is upset at, among other things, Clinton's choice of Tim Kaine as vice presidential candidate—"a slap in the face to all progressives." Why? "If you look at his voting record, look at his history, he's not progressive, he hasn't supported any of those things. We suspect, and I personally agree, that a lot of this is lip service." Should Clinton secure the nomination this week—and like all the California booers I talked to, Withers intends to fight like a wolverine to elect Sanders—then "I'm going to have to make a personal decision."

The Golden State dissidents believe that Clinton and the Democratic National Committee colluded to commit voting fraud in the California primary. 

"Our votes were not counted," said Mary Yoon, a soft-spoken (at least when not booing) retired therapist. "When 8 million people vote, and only 7 million votes are counted, we saw shredding trucks in certain counties….Alex Padilla gave the wrong instructions to poll workers."

Asked whether she would vote for Clinton in November, Yoon said "I don't know. I've never voted for a hawk, or a warmonger, which I consider her to be….Her record is very flip-floppy—yes TPP, no TPP, for instance; no gay marriage, yes gay marriage. She is a political animal of the first order, and she goes where the wind blows into more power for her. So will I vote for her? I'm disinclined to it."

So what about the Green and Libertarian parties? "I think both their candidates…are actually more palatable to elect than [those of] the GOP and the DNC," Yoon said. Then when she found out who I worked for, she said "Libertarian! I've think your candidates…both your presidential and vice president, make far more sense to me. Not necessarily agreeing with the platforms, but as men who seem to have some ethics."

NEXT: Sarah Silverman: 'To the Bernie or Bust People, You Are Being Ridiculous'

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  1. “It’s disgusting here,” Becker said.

    It’s okay. Philadelphia hears that a lot.

    Get it out of your system now, BernieBots, because after this week no one will care about you just like no one cared about the Hillary PUMA’s after the 2008 convention. And you’ll be voting Hillary in November.

  2. “Not necessarily agreeing with the platforms, but as men who seem to have some ethics”

    20 bucks says she winds up voting Clinton in the fall.

    Democrats whine, but they have no spine. They always fall in line, which is why we are where we are.

    1. Would you say we are in a bind?

  3. “I was lucky a couple of weeks ago: I shot a squirrel to bring home for meat,”

    One skwerl isn’t enough for one person

    1. A single squirrel would only arouse his appetite without bedding her back down.

      1. Maybe he found a whole squirrel village?

        1. It takes a village.

          1. You guys are playing with fire.

          2. You guys are playing with fire.

          3. You guys are playing with fire.

    2. she didn’t want to talk about ending fracking, even though there was a freaking gas leak poisoning us.

      This guy is either the most pathetic huckster there is or alternately completely disconnected from reality. Fortunately Matt Welch is there to write an article that broadcasts this guys insane, blistoringly ignorant rant to the world.

      Next up, I expect Matt will interview some homeless guy living under a bridge for insights into the NY governor’s race!

      1. Yeah, every Democrat in the history of Democrats is against fracking. The reason she doesn’t want to talk about it is because she doesn’t have to.

      2. Yeah, he’s lying. He wouldn’t be at that convention if here were in that state. And the fracking thing is a dead giveaway. Plus,

        “Seligman says his wife can’t find a job, and when the food stamps run out at the end of the month he needs to find creative ways to feed his children.”

        I don’t think that’s how that works.

        How about a little less credulity in the reporting.

  4. 15 million kids starving in the US? If you kept a straight face while listening to that, you deserve a sammich.

    1. If they have to share that squirrel they are starving!

      1. Skwerl meat is causing the obesity epidemic.

        1. It’s probably causing the nutso epidemic.

    2. Apparently there are no food banks in California. What a whiny bitch this guy is. How did he get out there if he is so poor?

      1. He’s not poor, it’s just that Hillary is murdering children with HIS money!

        Dude just needs to call JG Wentworth.

      2. Also he admits his kids are dying. Can we get him a CPS visit for neglect and being a shitty father?

      3. More importantly, how did he enlist in the Marines if he’s this whiny?

        1. Assuming he actually is one

        2. “More importantly, how did he enlist in the Marines if he’s this whiny?”

          I have here a transcript from his recruitment interview:

          ‘ I wanted to see exotic Vietnam… the crown jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture… and kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill!’

          1. More likely he was drafted.

    3. Although I like this part of his rant:

      “and this woman wears a jacket worth more than I get in a year, while she goes out talking about how she’s going to blow up other people’s children for another trillion dollars. “

      1. [Hides monocle]

    4. No sammich for me then.

    5. I laughed pretty hard at that.

      Literally 1 in 5 kids is dying from lack of food, guys!

      I am assuming he just used poverty statistics and equated poverty and starvation, which is hilarious.

  5. This post performs the valuable service of reminding me how much I despise leftists.

    “Vote for Bernie Sanders because he shook my hand once and because I have to hunt squirrels for food!” Hey, champ, if your family is so bad off, why the fuck are you wasting your time and money going cross country to a useless waste of time like a political convention?

    1. Victorville? That is just desert, how many squirrels run around the Joshua Trees? Maybe he is talking about squirrels like himself?

    2. Victorville? That is just desert, how many squirrels run around the Joshua Trees? Maybe he is talking about squirrels like himself?

  6. There are 15,300,000 children STARVING in this country

    No there aren’t.

    and this woman wears a jacket worth more than I get in a year

    Ah, I see where this is going.

    My kids are dying and she wants to murder other people’s kids with my money!

    If your kids are starving, you aren’t paying income tax.

    Did this guy just make me defend Clinton?

    1. He means it’s his money, in the sense that the payments aren’t going to the right place.

    2. No, you’re not defending Hillary. Just the wealth effect left over from when free markets used to be prevalent in the US economy.

      1. That makes me feel better. Thank you.

  7. So – has there ever been another time when *multiple parties* have hated their annointed candidates so much?

    And did they go ahead and vote for them anyway? Because what are you going to do? Throw your vote away?

  8. There are 15,300,000 children STARVING in this country

    Where does a statistic like this even come from? And how innumerate do you have be for it to even pass the smell test?

      1. So, pretty fucking innumerate.

        1. When you need to create a problem where none exists, or need to make a real problem look like less of one, you change the way its normally measured.

          Feeding America’s claim comes from U.S. Department of Agriculture surveys in which heads of households were asked if at any time during a calendar year their children were a) unable to eat what they wanted; b) unable to eat in whatever quantity they wanted; c) forced to eat cheaper brands, or d) afraid their food supply might run out on any single day.”

          Of course when you criticize the source of the bullshit data (USDA), they’ll insist THEY never claimed anyone was ‘starving’; but they’re perfectly aware that thousands of activists will use this data to make exactly that claim. because that’s why they changed the definition.

          (and you there have bullshit outfits like Politifact rushing to call the *critics* liars)

          Its not any different than that ‘study’ which made claims about “mass shootings happening every day”. (*which tallied any time a firearm wounded more than a couple); Of course they knew that people would assume it was “mass killing” of the Columbine sort.

          1. “Forced to eat cheaper brands”? WTF?!

            Just… wow.

            1. What infuriates me about people “using data to lie” is not the activists …

              …. its the journalists who aid and abet them, either by being too stupid to note the definitions/distinctions and to compare to other, “non-activist provided data” …. or by being completely on board with the activists, and helping provide editorial cover & defenses for their bullshit

              that piece by politifact is fucking shameless.

          2. I wonder if responding to that survey is mandatory like the Census Bureau’s fucking “American Community Survey”.

  9. Wow. Michelle O just went whole-hog on the slavery angle.

    1. Did she happen to mention the whites Lincoln enslaved for the fight to free her people?

  10. Bernie supporting socialists, brainwashed Clintonites, Trump worshipers: who is the most delusional and why? What a depressing collection of whiny, thieving scum.

  11. “I was lucky a couple of weeks ago: I shot a squirrel to bring home for meat,” said Brian Seligman, a former Marine on Social Security disability from a car wreck, who recently moved from the Los Angeles area to Victorville. Seligman says his wife can’t find a job, and when the food stamps run out at the end of the month he needs to find creative way to feed his children.

    I call bullshit.

    If one squirrel every couple of weeks is what you’re bringing home then you aren’t in any danger of starving to death.

    In any case food stamps aren’t there to cover your total food bill while you sit on your ass – and quite frankly, if you’ve got the physical ability to wander the local park looking for squirrels to shoot with a pellet gun then you’ve got the physical ability to work – so I’m not worried that you might have to go out and *hunt* for some food one out of every 4 weeks.

    1. He could get a whole meal at a fast food joint for the price of that box of bullets.

    2. There is free food available with few questions asked at pantries all around this country – even out in the so-called sticks. One does have to have a way to go get it, but more importantly one has to get off one’s lazy, ignorant ass and cook it – or learn how. That and one best not be real picky about brands or variety if really hungry. I’ve run across people who’ll go get “commodities” and throw away any canned goods they don’t happen to like; I guess it never occurs to them that someone else might like to have them or be willing to trade for them. People can be really stupid sometimes.

  12. which will officially fall short of its goal tomorrow when Clinton is voted the nominee

    Idk. Is it possible that enough SuperDelegates change their vote to vote for The Bern? I haven’t looked at the numbers, and I really don’t want a person who has, effectively, committed treason to have a chance to be president.

  13. “There are 15,300,000 children STARVING in this country,

    No, there aren’t

    1. If you or your kin are starving in the US, you are too dumb (or wasted) to find food.

    2. The comments to that article are just stupefying. Junk food and fast food is cheaper than produce, so people are starving even though they are morbidly obese, because they’re eating the ‘wrong food’, most of them say.

      I get so sick of this. If you go to a regular supermarket, or even better, a produce store, produce is ridiculously cheap. For twenty bucks you can completely load your shopping cart and struggle to eat the veggies before they spoil.

      No doubt these leftists, though, are comparing the cost of generic mac ‘n’ cheese to a Whole Foods Organic Kiwi Fruit, and are shocked that ‘produce’ is not inexpensive. Produce is inexpensive, folks, just not your rich-person’s choice to eat some ‘organic local-sourced’ item that might be slightly better (but definitely social signals better).

      And though the stats say that it’s really only .01 of children in America that have had to go a full day without food in the past year, the comments say ‘what difference is it if it’s .01 or twenty percent! Any hungry child is one too many!

      We know what these commenters would all say would fix all this, right? Socialism!

      1. Are you implying that vegetables are food?

  14. “I was lucky a couple of weeks ago: I shot a squirrel to bring home for meat,” said Brian Seligman, a former Marine on Social Security disability from a car wreck, who recently moved from the Los Angeles area to Victorville. Seligman says his wife can’t find a job, and when the food stamps run out at the end of the month he needs to find creative way to feed his children.”

    Does anyone else wonder where the interviewers find these perfect shit-magnets to whom everything “happens”? It’s like Tony’s wet dream.
    And my skepticism…

    1. BTW, in Victorville, it must have been a ground squirrel.

      1. Victorville is not neighboring Philly?

        So the squirrel-eater somehow could afford to travel to the DNC in his leisure time?

        1. Sort of like the poor “strikers” not existing on the un-livable wage paid by the SEIU, traveling to various locales to “strike” in front of a hamburger joint.

    2. It is the Democratic Nationaltional Convention inundated with outright socialists, so I assume there are plenty of people who cannot wait to tell a reporter about their exaggerated pity parties.

      1. Yeah, it’s a wonder the squirrel didn’t grab the gun and beat hell out of the guy.

        1. lMFAO

    3. needs to find creative way to feed his children

      When did something that humans have been doing since the dawn of humanity become “creative”?

      Right after it required a license, I suppose.

      1. Well, and working might be considered “creative” to twits like him and commie kid.

  15. There are 15,300,000 children STARVING in this country

    I sometimes went to bed STARVING, because I refused to eat the dinner my mom made me since it wasn’t pizza…

    1. And when my mom made me eat Tostinos pizza instead of Papa Johns!! The insanity!

    2. You were lucky – I wasn’t allowed to leave the table until I cleaned my plate, including the squash which I hated.

  16. If you are watching the Democratic National Convention at home

    LOL good one.

    1. I am because masochism. Fauxcahontas is on. It’s borderline entertaining. The Bern Victims start chanting occasionally and the ABC commentators gag on each others’ cocks over how awesome it all is.

      1. Goddamn you for making for flip over to check it out.

  17. “There are 15,300,000 children STARVING in this country”

    Also, people aren’t wearing enough hats.

    1. Just think of how many children we could save if there only was one type of deodorant…..

      1. Is it poisoness? Do they snort it?

  18. *Rolls Eyes* Why these poor people bitching? Politics is about making sure bored billionaires can spend hundreds of millions to buy elections and to enable Silicon Valley to make Pokemon games. Duh. Choose your venue, crybabies. Surplus labor rightfully goes to the capitalists– not the people doing the work.

    I can’t say I like this convention more than the RNC. There’s not enough screaming that the political opposition should be executed or talk about Benghazi-dome for me. Hopefully, these Democrats can stop talking aspirationally and get on with figuring out which country we’re going to bomb. That’s what I want to know! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

    1. american socialist|7.25.16 @ 10:34PM|#
      “*Rolls Eyes* Why these poor people bitching?”

      Because they seem to be shitbags like you hoping for more free shit.
      Pay your mortgage yet?
      ———————————
      “Surplus labor rightfully goes to the capitalists– not the people doing the work.”

      Is that supposed to make sense to those who read English?

      1. I’m reading above and found out that there either aren’t any poor people in the U.S. Or they are so ethically and morally retarded that I shouldn’t care. Sorry. My mistake.

        1. american socialist|7.25.16 @ 10:41PM|#
          ‘I’m reading above and found out that there either aren’t any poor people in the U.S.”
          No kidding? Cite missing from lie.

          “Or they are so ethically and morally retarded that I shouldn’t care. Sorry. My mistake.”
          Probably correct here; infantile moral agents like you. Shitbags like you *are* often amazed that taking care of yourself (like paying the mortgage you signed) takes effort instead to whining.

        2. No one said there are no poor people in the US, you dumdum. What people are using is that no one is starving in the US. When was the last time you saw a kid with ribs showing? Most poor kids are on their way to becoming little hamplanets, not stick figures with bloated bellies.

          1. *saying

          2. 15,300,000 kids aren’t starving=there are no poor kids in the U.S. This is a beauty, even for amsoc.

    2. “Surplus labor”?

      My, you’re adorable.

      1. It kind of means that people should get paid for the actual work they do. In the context of a world where CEOs make 8 digit salaries for bankrupting their companies it’s maybe a concept that Marxists and investors should start to examine.

        1. american socialist|7.25.16 @ 10:47PM|#
          “It kind of means that people should get paid for the actual work they do”

          Pray tell; who decides that pay for that work they do?

        2. Oh, I see: people deserve to get what their work is worth.

          Implying that an unemployed person is potentially worth…nothing.

          It sounds so cruel, this labor…theory…of value.

          1. It sounds cruel.
            And ignorant.

          2. How come no one is paying me for going to the gym? I worked so hard today that my eyelids were sweating.

            1. The supression of the sweat market is the conspiracy of the capitalist wreckers.

        3. “People should get paid for the actual work they do.”

          Hell yeah, Amsoc finally on board with abolishing minimum wage and unemployment benefits. Welcome to the party!

    3. Politics is about making sure bored billionaires can spend hundreds of millions to buy elections

      This implication is retarded, even for you. How much money has The Don spent compared to even just HRC? Yea, thought so.

      There’s not enough screaming that the political opposition should be executed

      To be fair, Treason, as defined in the document that created the federal gov’t, used to be dealt with by giving the convicted a short drop and sudden stop. I’ll settle for her never being allowed to have a security clearance again, let alone run for high office.

      figuring out which country we’re going to bomb

      Clinton already knows what countries she wants to bomb. I.e. all of them. (that don’t give healthy donations to the Clinton slush fund Foundation.)

    4. But Pokemon games aren’t made in Silicon Valley; they’re made in Tokyo.

  19. All I can think of watching these morons advocate for MOAR Socialism, is that if this keeps up the US will be in for a shit ton of “bad luck”.

    1. Well, the folks involved thing Bernie (who never made a living from a real job) is smart enough to direct the entire economy. They can’t all be wrong, can they?

  20. Brian Seligman, a former Marine on Social Security disability from a car wreck

    Why is this man unemployed. Has he tried applying to MSNBC as a tv host? His quotes seem to be ample evidence of his qualifications.

  21. Oh god, Bern is up.

    1. He’s not actually going to pull a Ted Cruz. But he’s definitely teasing us about the possibility.

      1. Holy shit this guy really is a communist.

        1. Pretty much. And they’re eating it up.

        2. There aren’t 15 million starving kids in the country, but Bernie’s campaign was always more about aspirations than reality.

          1. You get a car! And you get a car! And you get a car!

          2. “aspirations”

            Pretty sure that’s spelled “lies”

          3. Next time you hear that 15 million kids in the USA are starving, remember how you also heard that 200,000 people in the USA die each year from ‘medical mistakes’.

            It’s the same style of ‘data’ that brought you each of these astonishing figures.

  22. “The point of the Bernie campaign was to crate equality.”

    Why? Was equality peeing on the floor while he was away at work?

    It must be such a good feeling when Bern gets home, lets Equality out, and she’s all excited, tail wagging, licking his face.

  23. Also… Welch =

    ” a former Marine”

    smdh

    I presume your next plan is to desecrate the liberty bell in some fashion. If you can.

  24. OT: I’m watching Avatar, because there isn’t anything else, and damn did I forget how stupid this movie is. And it’s still the highest grossing movie of all time?

    1. Why is it stupid? I mean, the plot wasn’t particularly original, and animals fighting tanks is silly, but the message of the movie was great.

      1. … If you worship Gaia you get to fuck aliens?

      2. the message of the movie was great.

        What was the message?

        1. Next time, carpet bomb the blue Injins from high altitude?

      3. I realize there is an interpretation that centers on property rights, but that isn’t what the movie was trying to say. It’s straight up “noble savage” and its based on a myth. And I say this as probably one of the more environmentally people here.

        I actually thought animals fighting tanks was one of the better parts.

        1. You mean there is no such thing as a noble savage? What do you mean by that? Indigenous people are people like us and stealing their land is not very libertarian. That is how I saw the movie.

        2. Avatar’s message is more ‘rip off the intellectual property of the guy who did Yes album art to make a ton of cash.

          1. That doesn’t seem close enough to violate copyright.

            1. Where did Cameron get the idea for the floating mountains? Was that from a Yes album cover?

              ‘It might have been,’ the director says with a laugh. ‘Back in my pot-smoking days.’

              The article covers it a bit better than those random landscapes.

    2. Highest grossing movie worldwide, yes – but Star Wars Episode VII: Let’s Blow Up Yet Another Death Star now has the North American record.

      The thing that pisses me off the most about Avatar’s success is that it convinced James Cameron to spend the rest of his life making sequels to it. Avatar 5 comes out in 2023! *barf*

      1. LOL I didn’t know there was a second one.

        But then again I use the “highest-grossing films” list as a guide of movies to avoid.

  25. “Where does a statistic like this even come from?”
    It gets passed around as gospel every night on popular tv shows. An entrepreneur trying to get one of the “Shark Tank” millionaires to bite earlier this season stated “one in five Americans don’t know where their next meal is coming from.” No rebuttal, even from the semi-libertarian Mark Cuban. (Or, if he did set the record straight, the editors clipped the footage). They should have laughed in his face and told him his idea was probably as worthless as
    his statistics.

  26. Listening to this old commie go on, it makes me wonder why Hillary isn’t sitting there seething in her pantsuit. He’s basically handing the election to Trump if he succeeds in pulling her left.

    1. Why are you watching that? Watch this instead..

      1. OMG cuteness overload.

        1. My brovaries are twitching with delight.

      2. Cutest monocle-polisher ever.

  27. There are no Hillary bumper stickers here in California. By “no” I mean a qualified no. I drive, on average, about 500 miles/week. I have seen 0 “Hillary” bumper stickers since 1/1/2016. Lots of Bernies though. I have seen 1, exactly 1, Trump bumper sticker.

    There were Obama stickers everywhere in 2008, half as many in 2012, but still a bunch.

    1. Drive the same distance weekly, have seen 1 here in Florida. And one yard sign.

    2. Seconded, only with more driving (My work is street sweeping around the Bay Area)

    3. Same here. Driving around the Inland Empire I have yet to see anyone with a Hillary bumper sticker. I see zero enthusiasm for her.

  28. “That’s happened in history before in France, and their solution was guillotines,” he said.

    I’ll put him down as a “maybe” for the Woodchipper Party.

    Vote Woodchipper 2016!

  29. These people are pissed and despondent in a way I’ve never seen on the floor of a major-party convention.

    They should be. They were screwed by a rigged system. That’s why the guy talking guillotines is not being unreasonable.

    The #AlwaysCucks *lost*. If anything, the system was rigged in their favor. It certainly wasn’t rigged in favor of Trump.

    It’s one thing to lose in a fair fight. It’s quite another to lose in a rigged fight. That will piss you off. It would be a very bitter pill to swallow. I can see a lot of Bernie supporters simply refusing to support Hillary.

    Trump will be saying “rigged” every other word til November.

  30. Until Americans decide to demand an amendment to their Constitution for Recall and Referendum, all they actually do is watch a tennis match, watching the same ball, simply go from one side of the court to the other. Blissfully ignoring the match doesn’t win for them anything long term as a country.
    Maybe lazy?
    Maybe just simple enough to assuage any feelings of responsibility for what transpires, in a process of governing.

    Until Americans have the ability to oust Politicians and their corrupted legislation, they are doing nothing but giving each other a ‘reach around’.

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