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Trump Will Save Us From Everything Bad, THC in Colorado Water, Pokemon Go Is Watching You: A.M. Links

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 7.22.2016 9:00 AM

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    In a speech that ran over 70 minutes, Donald Trump accepted the Republican Party's presidential nomination Thursday night, bashed free trade, and warned that we are in a "moment of crisis" from which he alone can save us. 

  • Despite the dire tone of Trump's terror dream speech, the scene on the streets of cop- and activist-overrun Cleveland throughout the week was overwhelmingly peaceful and jovial. 
  • Ivanka Trump spent her convention speech trying to convince America that her father isn't sexist, borrowing liberal talking points about the gender wage gap, and explaining that her father would make "quality childcare accessible to all." 
  • Utah delegates to the GOP convention told Reason they felt "disenfranchised from the Republican Party" and may vote for Gary Johnson in November. 
  • "If the GOP was serious about changing its slow march to irrelevance, there should have been 10 [Peter] Thiel's to every Joe Arpaio, rather than the other way around."
  • Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism." 
  • Don't drink the water in Hugo, Colorado, if you've got a drug test coming up.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism."

    So he'll be directing the Pokemon movie?

    1. Grand Moff Serious Man   9 years ago

      That scene where Ash gets fragged by Brock's Onyx is unforgettable.

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        And Pikachu wasting all those villagers....chilling!

        1. spqr2008   9 years ago

          I love the smell of Charizard in the morning. Smells like Victory

          1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

            Starring Woody Harrelson and Juliette Lewis as Team Rocket:

            James: The whole world's comin' to an end, Jes!
            Jesse: I see golbats, James. They're comin' down for us from heaven. And I see you ridin' a big red charmeleon, and you're driving them charmeleons, whippin' 'em, and the're spitting and frothing all 'long the mouth, and the're coming right at us. And I see the future, and there's no death, 'cause you and I, we're pokemon...
            Mickey: I love you, Jes.
            Jesse: I know you do baby, and I've loved you since the day we met.

    2. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      Hello.

      "...and warned that we are in a "moment of crisis" from which he alone can save us."

      Someone sounds jealous.

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        Gruss Gott.

        "Help us Obi-wan Trumpnobi, you are our only hope!"

        1. Jerryskids   9 years ago

          Meesa think yousa not know what species issa Massa Trumpah.

          But Trump knows damn well we're in a moment of crisis - we've got a choice between Hillary and Trump this November and if that ain't a mess it'll do 'til the mess gets here. With Hillary, it's a coin-toss between a kick in the nuts and a poke in the eye, with Trump it's a coin-toss between a trip to Cancun and being beheaded. You feeling lucky, punk?

      2. Smilin' Joe Fission   9 years ago

        Hi Rufus!

  2. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

    204) That Pence-so-dense
    That Pence-so-dense
    I do not like him, that Pence-so-dense.
    Say, do you like candidate Trump?
    I do not like him Pence-so-dense.
    I will not vote for him, he makes no sense.
    Would you vote for him here or there?
    I would not vote for him here or there.
    I would not vote for him anywhere.
    I do not like him, Pence-so-dense.
    I will not vote for him, he makes no sense.
    Would you like Trump in a (White) House?
    Would you listen to Mickey Kaus?
    I would not like him in a (White) House.
    I will not listen to Mickey Kaus.
    I would not vote for him here or there.
    I would not vote for him anywhere.
    I do not like him, Pence-so-dense.
    I will not vote for him, he makes no sense.
    Would you, could you, on a three hundred-foot yacht?
    Vote for him, vote for him,
    he can't be bought!

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      I would not, could not
      on a yacht.
      I do not care if his daughter's hot.
      You may like him, you will see.
      Maybe you'd like him in a tree?
      I would not, could not, in a tree.
      I will not vote for him, you let me be!
      I will not put him in a (White) House,
      I don't give a damn about Mickey Kaus,
      not in a yacht, not in a tree,
      I don't want him running my country!
      Don't you want to make America great?
      Why are you so filled with hate?
      Trump has wonderful ideas, his plans are yuge.
      If you don't like me as VP, would you take the Nuge?
      I suppose you like that ugly hag.
      Go ahead and vote for the bitchy old bag.
      I will not vote for either, you mendacious fuck!
      If those are my choices you're out of luck.
      Not a Clinton, not a Trump,
      not in a back alley, not in a dump.
      I will not for them here or there.
      I will not vote for them anywhere.
      But you know damn well there's another way:
      That's why my vote is going GayJay.

      1. This Machine   9 years ago

        *stands to applaud*

      2. Spoonman.   9 years ago

        Beautiful.

      3. Tonio   9 years ago

        Well-done, JATNAS.

      4. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

        AWESOME.

      5. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

        GayJay needs the position pole,
        So please include him in your poll.

        What the country needs isn't Clinton,
        Rather ideas from Friedman, Milton.

        Don't let the country get gelled,
        Cast your vote for Johnson/Weld.

      6. Azathoth!!   9 years ago

        But no, not true,
        my reason friends

        We all know
        how this ends

        He eats the eggs
        and ham and finds

        that it's a taste
        he doesn't mind

        In fact, he likes it
        quite a lot

        In boxes, trains
        and all that rot.

        So if you go
        by Dr Seuss

        You're gonna need
        to accept the noose

        For GayJay
        he won't jump

        He'll be happily voting
        for Donald Trump.

  3. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism."

    Never try to trump Trump.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Utah delegates to the GOP convention told Reason they felt "disenfranchised from the Republican Party" and may vote for Gary Johnson in November.

    #LoserState

    1. Red Rocks Okey-Dokein   9 years ago

      Did someone in the party actually take their vote away?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        Rules apparently state they can't cast votes for someone not technically still in the race.

        1. straffinrun   9 years ago

          Not technically still in the race? Damn.

          *Scratches Dolezal off list*

        2. straffinrun   9 years ago

          Not technically still in the race? Damn.

          *Scratches Dolezal off list*

        3. straffinrun   9 years ago

          Not technically still in the race? Damn.

          *Scratches Dolezal off list*

          1. straffinrun   9 years ago

            Skweerlz. Always with the worst jokes, too.

          2. Agammamon   9 years ago

            How many lists do you have?

            1. Libertarian   9 years ago

              As with most things in life, it's that fourth list that's most important.

          3. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

            LOL. That was really funny.

        4. Tom Bombadil   9 years ago

          "Rules apparently state they can't cast votes for someone not technically still in the race"

          The crybabies were talking about November.
          They won't be delegates then, just regular plebes.
          At that time they aren't "bound" to do anything and who cares what they think?

      2. Agammamon   9 years ago

        Yes they did.

        1. Red Rocks Okey-Dokein   9 years ago

          Now they know how the Ron Paul supporters felt.

  5. Grand Moff Serious Man   9 years ago

    In a speech that ran over 70 minutes, Donald Trump accepted the Republican Party's presidential nomination Thursday night, bashed free trade, and warned that we are in a "moment of crisis" from which he alone can save us.

    Libertarians for Putin!

    1. Clich? Bandit   9 years ago

      70 minutes? holy crap!

      that HAS to be some kind of record. How long was Harding's?

      1. Clich? Bandit   9 years ago

        Harrison's. William Henry Harrison - 1:45:00 D A M N!

  6. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    and may vote for Gary Johnson in November.

    Yes, and there may have been a libertarian president already.

  7. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

    Okay, ENB, this almost--almost--makes up for the fiasco on Wednesday.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    In a speech that ran over 70 minutes...

    That's a lot of tweets.

  9. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    In a speech that ran over 70 minutes, Donald Trump accepted the Republican Party's presidential nomination Thursday night, bashed free trade, and warned that we are in a "moment of crisis" from which he alone can save us.

    I. Am. That. Hero!

    1. cavalier973   9 years ago

      Larry Boy is awesome, but not as awesome as the Pirates Who Don't Do Anything.

      1. This Machine   9 years ago

        +0 daisies on a big red rubber ball

  10. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    In a speech that ran over 70 minutes

    Does it count as using the teleprompter if it just keeps scrolling "keep vamping" over and over?

  11. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

    "If the GOP was serious about changing its slow march to irrelevance, there should have been 10 [Peter] Thiel's to every Joe Arpaio, rather than the other way around."

    This line is in quotation marks, and I'd rather not have to follow the link to see who said it. Can't reason even attribute it's own articles anymore? Or has it become ashamed of the mean-spirited content that has been overruning the site?

    1. SugarFree   9 years ago

      Or has it become ashamed of the mean-spirited content that has been overruning the site?

      What has being nice ever gotten us?

      1. Brett L   9 years ago

        We could have had Postrel's love and respect.

      2. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

        If this is in reference to the commenters, I think things are a lot less mean-spirited than when I first started lurking here years ago. I've haven't seen too many 100-comment+ battles between John and crazy ladies lately.

        1. Brochettaward   9 years ago

          Shut-up, Tulpa.

        2. SugarFree   9 years ago

          The reasonable extension has helped. If you don't read the trolls you are less tempted to engage them.

          1. Citizen X   9 years ago

            Sometimes it's fun to take out some rage on a hapless troll. Beats yelling at a real person. That said, my blood pressure has dropped since i started using reasonable.

          2. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

            I enjoy a good troll-battle every now and then. Keeps things interesting

          3. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

            We shouldn't devolve into an echo chamber. I personally believe we can only get better if we're challenged. And don't question me on this; I won't hear it.

            1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

              *Flagged as troll.

            2. Citizen X   9 years ago

              Shut up, Tulpa!

            3. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

              Reported as spam

          4. Zeb   9 years ago

            I hate to say it, but registration helped. I don't think I have anyone blocked on Reasonable at this point. The current crop of trolls can be annoying, but they mostly don't completely fuck everything up like in the dark times.

            1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

              I wasn't here for the dark times of the unregistered commentariat.

              My observation was about the articles. I have no issue with a difference of opinion but it's more than that.

              The tone is just getting more vile.

              1. Zeb   9 years ago

                Elections ruin everything and make people stupid. That's my theory for that part of it.

                It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't dominate the news for 2 years of every four.

      3. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        If you're going to behave a certain way, own it. If you don't want to own it maybe you should rethink behaving in that manner.

        If you take a look at yourself and go "I'm okay with being an asshole" that's fine. But if you're slinking around goin "I don't want people to think I'm an asshole" while acting like one anyway, that's just not acceptable.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Shut up, Tulpa!

        2. SugarFree   9 years ago

          So what you are saying is: Be Mr. Hand, not Mr. Yuk?

        3. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

          Most people seem to take the, "I'm not an asshole! And he deserved it, anyway!" approach.

          1. Citizen X   9 years ago

            Shut up, Tulpa!

            1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

              Shut up, Tulpa!

              1. WTF   9 years ago

                Shut the fuck up, Tulpas!

                1. Citizen X   9 years ago

                  The proper pluralization is "Tulpae," Tulpa.

              2. Krabappel   9 years ago

                Oh no, the Tulpa singularity is happening.

                1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

                  It's Tulpas all the way down!

                  Tulpa.

        4. Brett L   9 years ago

          My wife will tell you, I'm in the "okay with being an asshole" camp. Out and proud!

          1. Citizen X   9 years ago

            Shut up, Tulpa.

            1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

              Shut up, Tulpa.

              1. commodious were cool on craze   9 years ago

                ...Mulva?

                1. Col. Chestbridge   9 years ago

                  Malkovich?

    2. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      But TRUUUUUUUUUUUUMP!!!!!!!!!!

    3. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

      its Reason 24/7 all over again!

    4. WTF   9 years ago

      They had 10 Joe Arpaio's on stage? Shit, I should have watched, that must have been weird to see all those clones.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

        Trump made them fight to the death. It was horrific but strangely beautiful.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Oddly, only six of them were wearing pink underwear.

        2. Rhywun   9 years ago

          I hope no one emerged the victor*.

          *juvenile bluster

  12. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    "If the GOP was serious about changing its slow march to irrelevance, there should have been 10 [Peter] Thiel's to every Joe Arpaio, rather than the other way around."

    Ronald Bailey's cloning dream come true.

    1. Drake   9 years ago

      Wouldn't that only make them relevant for a generation?

  13. Brochettaward   9 years ago

    Don't drink the water in Hugo, Colorado, if you've got a drug test coming up.

    It sounds like the plot from Batman Begins. Google hasn't lost a microwave emitter, have they?

    Comment I'm so proud of I had to bring it over from the other comment section.

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      That's not pot, that's Joker serum!

      1. Agammamon   9 years ago

        That's not 'serum'.

        1. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

          Enough with the bodily fluids.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    ...and warned that we are in a "moment of crisis" from which he alone can save us.

    By dropping out.

    1. perlchpr   9 years ago

      Which would be hilarious at this point. The GOP would be scrambling pretty hard.

      1. Rhywun   9 years ago

        "Psych!"

  15. Citizen X   9 years ago

    Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism."

    Surveillance Capitalism is a pretty good band name.

    1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

      Or a nightclub, with a 4 or 5 am license...

      1. Citizen X   9 years ago

        I would promote that club.

  16. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

    What America needs is sensible pizza control.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      No one needs 23 different options for pizza toppings.

      1. commodious were cool on craze   9 years ago

        Pizza Hut now allows you the choice of several different crust flavors and pizza "drizzles," if you're into soggy pizza.

        No word on edible pizza, though.

    2. WTF   9 years ago

      Don't allow deep dish to be falsely referred to as pizza.

    3. bacon-magic   9 years ago

      St. Louis style thin pizza is the way to go. Disclaimer: I like deep dish too.

  17. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    Despite the dire tone of Trump's terror dream speech, the scene on the streets of cop- and activist-overrun Cleveland throughout the week was overwhelmingly peaceful and jovial.

    "It was just like a block party! Cops and Secret Service everywhere, riot gear, carbines, I was charged with a misdemeanor for an accident, it was a fucking touching moment!"

    1. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

      Here's the deal with the Left. I'm expecting them to make fun of Trump for this "law and order" thing by pulling out Steven Pinker's stats on declining violence.

      BUT - everytime there is a shooting incident, they whine about how violence is going *up* and thus the country needs more gun control.

      The doublethink is mind boggling.

      1. commodious were cool on craze   9 years ago

        It would be doublethink if they honestly believed either argument, or anything else for that matter.

        It's just regular old singlethink: the single-minded compulsion to ban guns and punish gunowners, because it's what the left does.

        1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

          It's not even singlethink -- it's 'doublefeelzerothink'

  18. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

    Ivanka Trump spent her convention speech trying to convince America that her father isn't sexist, borrowing liberal talking points about the gender wage gap, and explaining that her father would make "quality childcare accessible to all."

    Ivanka focused on the actual wage/achievement gap that exists between mothers and childless employees, which is a more accurate portrayal of the problem than the Democrats' $0.77 on the dollar lie.

    It is not, however, a problem the government can solve or should be trying to solve.

    1. WTF   9 years ago

      Look, Trump is sexist not because he is actually sexist, but because he is the Republican nominee. Just like he is a racist. Because every Republican presidential nominee is literally Hitler.

    2. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

      Get out of here with your facts and sensibility!

    3. Jerryskids   9 years ago

      It is not, however, a problem the government can solve or should be trying to solve.

      Libertarianism in a nutshell.

      What kind of conservative stalwart promises more free shit like having the government take care of your kids? That right there shows the mindset of government as problem-solver when there's no such thing as a free lunch and you're only trading one problem for another and the government has a long track record of coming up with horribly expensive cures worse than the disease.

      The government already has two programs for taking care of people - the military and the prison system. Which of those is the model for raising kids? If you want the government to take responsibility for raising your kids, shut the hell up about Common Core and whatever leftist collectivist nonsense they're indoctrinating the kiddies with - they ain't your kids if you give them to the government to raise, you dumb shit.

    4. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

      "quality childcare accessible to al."

      however, a problem the government can solve or should be trying to solve.

      Well, part of the reason it's not accessible is due to government regulation that inflates the cost so there is a problem government could solve if the one way ratchet moved backwards.

      1. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

        Stupid phone chopped off the the leading "It is not,"

  19. Drake   9 years ago

    Who says terrorism doesn't work?

    Local authorities are calling for classes on Islam to be brought in at schools across the country after a radicalized Muslim youth attacked passengers on a train with an axe on Monday.

    1. Brochettaward   9 years ago

      Has all of Europe turned French?

      1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

        It's the sequel to that Vapors song that nobody asked for.

        1. Drake   9 years ago

          Do you think so?

      2. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

        It's taking place in Germany.

        The Germans are operating on a completely different level it.

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          At this point I wouldn't be surprised if these incidents made the Germans go Half-Nazi (the gas chambers and ovens half, not the 'take over the world' half) just to put an end to the incidents.

          1. Illocust   9 years ago

            Not going to happen. Some other European country might, but Germans have gone through a hell of a lot of trouble to make sure that kind of thing never happens again. Now stopping immigration from anyone practicing Islam and banning things like the burka I could see end up happening.

          2. Illocust   9 years ago

            Not going to happen. Some other European country might, but Germans have gone through a hell of a lot of trouble to make sure that kind of thing never happens again. Now stopping immigration from anyone practicing Islam and banning things like the burka I could see end up happening.

          3. Drake   9 years ago

            Right now the Neo-Stasi is cracking down hard on any German who utters a complaint about the cultural enrichment they are experiencing. They are literally using former Stasi Agents.

            http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/.....la-merkel/

      3. commodious were cool on craze   9 years ago

        To be fair, the French will probably be the first chink (racist!) in the dyke (homophobe!!) in opposing further Muslim encroachments on Western culture.

    2. Brett L   9 years ago

      "Islam, when the official religion of a state, is a religion of conquest. It had to be turned aside by Karl Martel at Tours, and King John of Poland at Vienna."

      1. Drake   9 years ago

        That might be the class on Islam they need, it won't be the one they get.

      2. Michael   9 years ago

        I kinda wanted to make and sell "Martel/Sobieski 2016" t-shirts for this election season, but I realized that I am insufficiently trollish to delve into such an undertaking.

        1. Drake   9 years ago

          It would be lost on most people anyhow. They would think it's a vodka ad.

          1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

            It had to be turned aside by Karl Martel at Tours, and King John of Poland at Vienna Ramsay Snow at Winterfell?

            More people would get that one.

        2. robc   9 years ago

          Ive been posting WWCMD on here for a long time.

    3. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Je suis la religion de la paix

      1. Jerryskids   9 years ago

        Je suis la religion de paix de la tombe.

        Fixe pour vous.

        1. WTF   9 years ago

          Nice.

          1. bacon-magic   9 years ago

            Nice?!

            1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

              Too soon!

    4. Agammamon   9 years ago

      I'm not sure which side is more insane over there - the guys hacking up people with axes or the guys who, in the aftermath of that, think 'what we really need is classes so our citizens understand why they're being hacked up at random'.

      1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        I find it easier to understand people going suddenly violent than the other kind of crazy.

        1. WTF   9 years ago

          Me too. It seems as though certain people lack a survival instinct.

      2. Rhywun   9 years ago

        I think what the article is (poorly) expressing is the need for Muslims to take Islam classes, which presumably will include some content that asks them to kindly refrain from getting all choppy and rapey with the locals.

        1. Isaac Bartram   9 years ago

          Yes, it seems like it's a call to have the "right kind" of Muslims teaching Muslim children about their religion just as they only allow the "right kind" of Christians to teach Christian children about theirs.

          German schools have religion classes but only state approved religion has been taught in the past.

    5. perlchpr   9 years ago

      But it's not classes for the average German student, it's classes for the Muslims themselves, to try and keep them from going all jihadi.

      1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

        They, more than anyone, need to learn about Martel and Sobieski. And the Holocaust, as an example of what Europe is capable of doing to religious minorities.

    6. Rhywun   9 years ago

      Left out of the article is the fact that Religion class is compulsory for all Germans - in my day the Muslims opted out via the alternative Ethics class. The article isn't clear on whether non-Muslims are going to be required to take the Islam class. I don't think that would go over very well.

      1. Isaac Bartram   9 years ago

        I got the impression it meant classes for Muslim children.

        The article pointed out that some states already include such classes. This seems to be a call for action at the federal level to make all the states provide it.

      2. Isaac Bartram   9 years ago

        It's possible that the article left out the fact that Religion class is compulsory for all Germans because the writer assumed readers would already know that.

        That's always a problem with foreign news sources.

  20. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    Ivanka Trump spent her convention speech trying to convince America that her father isn't sexist, borrowing liberal talking points about the gender wage gap, and explaining that her father would make "quality childcare accessible to all."

    Keep putting people out of work, and there'll be ever so many adults not doing anything productive who can watch the kiddies.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      No, childcare is so hyper-regulated (at least here in the DC/MD area) that the cost of doing that is prohibitively high.

      Incidentally, said regulation is the largest contributor to the much-decried lack of access to "quality childcare." Apparently, you need a half-dozen government licenses and certifications to be allowed to charge money to perform for other people's children the same tasks that you would be legally obligated to do for your own.

      1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

        Childcare as an industry was and ever will be a boondoggle, so long as it is based on the presumption that parents must make two living wages in order to have it; one for them, and one for the care provider.

        At that point, just marry the childcare provider and get sex and meals out of the deal as well.

        And that isn't what I was referring to, incidentally. Venezuelans have 99 problems, but someone not doing anything who can watch the children is no longer one of them. Maduro's Progress Marches On!

        1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

          Yeah, I got what you were referring to, was going to just make a comment that they would just see that as proof that we need MOAR GUVERMINT, but got distracted and ended up ranting about how much of a bitch it is to find childcare.

          Whatever, you can't expect me to still be sober this late in the day.

          1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

            Of course not. You have kids.

            *clinks glass*

  21. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism."

    Fact.

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      He's just trying to make The Protomen more relevant than they already were.

      1. This Machine   9 years ago

        That had better fucking be "Light Up the Night."

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          That isn't, but here you go.

    2. Drake   9 years ago

      It's what JFK was trying to warn us about.

      1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        Oliver just doesn't want anyone to take his Snowden biopic seriously. Good job, Stoney!

  22. The Fusionist   9 years ago

    I learned yesterday that it's been *ten years* since Thiel was involved with PayPal, so I'm sorry I blamed him for PayPal's dumbass behavior in North Carolina.

  23. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    Utah delegates to the GOP convention told Reason they felt "disenfranchised from the Republican Party" and may vote for Gary Johnson in November.

    They just didn't like you because you're black.

  24. Illocust   9 years ago

    "Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism." "

    Everyone wants a piece of that Pokemon Go hype. No one has successfully co-opted it yet. Probably because everyone playing it is too busy walking.

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      Yeah, walking right in front of my car. I'm gonna have to spend my next paycheck on a cowcatcher for the front of my vehicle because of this shit.

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        "Pokecatcher"

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          I believe the straights refer to that as an asshole.

          1. Citizen X   9 years ago

            "The anus is the window of the butt!"

      2. Illocust   9 years ago

        Eh, look at the bright side, it's keeping people busy, its getting them out under the sun, getting them to exercise, and getting them to talk to people in real life. All of these things are conducive to making people care less about trying to run your life or get obsessive about politics.

        1. lap83   9 years ago

          Libertarian moments are so few and fleeting, we have to catch them all while we can

  25. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    "If the GOP was serious about changing its slow march to irrelevance, there should have been 10 [Peter] Thiel's to every Joe Arpaio, rather than the other way around."

    The DNC will have 100 Thiel's and no Arpaio's at all, and I bet that's not going to be much of a problem.

    1. Agammamon   9 years ago

      The DNC is *all* Arpaio's.

  26. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Megyn Kelly covers up (sort of) as she opts for a more conservative outfit at the GOP convention after criticism of risque dress

    Way to go, hot body shamers. I hope you're proud of yourselves.

    1. Brochettaward   9 years ago

      I still totally would, but she really doesn't have enough in the chest area for it to be anymore revealing than an Asian lady boy. Unfortunately, phony scandal.

    2. Grand Moff Serious Man   9 years ago

      If You Got It, Flaunt It!

    3. Brett L   9 years ago

      Do you know how painful it is to think about eating only three meals a day and exercising a couple of times a week?

    4. The Fusionist   9 years ago

      I wonder if she's exploiting this publicity?

      Naw, I'm being too cynical.

      1. WTF   9 years ago

        Now that Ailes is gone, she no longer has to worry about MALE GAZE.

    5. Zeb   9 years ago

      It might have been the wrong dress for the occasion, but I'd hardly call it "risque".

      1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

        This. She showed a bit of decollete, let's not have the vapors.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          +2

        2. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

          let's not have the vapors

          Yeah, save that for the Democratic convention.

      2. R C Dean   9 years ago

        Bad dress for being on camera, which only shows your upper torso. TV 101. Those dresses look fine in person, but on camera they make you look un(der)dressed.

  27. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    Director Oliver Stone warns that Pokemon Go is a form of "surveillance capitalism" that will lead to "a robot society" and then "totalitarianism."

    Loretta Lynch just wants to catch us all.

    1. WTF   9 years ago

      Well, not really "all".

  28. Grand Moff Serious Man   9 years ago

    Caption Contest!

    I yield to the expertise of SugarFree.

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      "Having family from Arkansas gave her a head start on the inbred look of royalty."

    2. SugarFree   9 years ago

      "Remember that night in the Lincoln bedroom?"

      1. SugarFree   9 years ago

        "Not really."

    3. Citizen X   9 years ago

      "Hey, that's not my belly button!"

      "That's not my finger, either."

    4. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

      "Don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact, don't make eye contact."

    5. WTF   9 years ago

      It's like they're not even the same species.

    6. widget   9 years ago

      "My dad's schlong looks like hamburger meat too."

      Sorry, not even Sugarfree is Redd Foxx.

    7. geo1113   9 years ago

      "I wouldn't lick you with Rachel Maddow's tongue."

    8. Jerryskids   9 years ago

      "My daddy's going to re-paint the Oval Office the same shade of blue as Monica's dress!"

      "Ha-ha, my mom's hiring illegal Mexicans if she wants it re-painted!"

  29. The Fusionist   9 years ago

    The Utah delegates should realize that the candidate they want is in another Castle.

    1. Just a thought not a sermon   9 years ago

      I'd rather vote for Frank Castle. He'd clean the streets up real good.

      1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

        It's either Castle or an asshole. Take your pick.

        1. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

          Is Gary Johnson an asshole because of Nazi cakes?

          Also Eddie, Frank Castle is the Marvel character The Punisher, which is why Sermon's comment was funny.

          I would also vote for Frank Castle, but only the Ray Stevenson and Jon Bernthal versions.

          1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

            I know who Frank Castle is, or rather, who he *used* to be.

            He used to be a fairly awesome comic-book character.

            Now he's just another lame action-movie protagonist. Yawn.

          2. The Fusionist   9 years ago

            "Is Gary Johnson an asshole because of Nazi cakes?"

            It sure doesn't help.

            Bear in mind, I find myself unable to hate *any* of these guys - not even Hillary. They either look like fun people or (in Hillary's case) like hardworking people who I wouldn't want to cross.

            If I call them assholes, its because their ideas are the kinds of things assholes would come up with.

    2. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

      What would Castle's foreign policy stance be called?

      Castle Doctrine?

  30. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

    Former Fox News anchor Laurie Dhue reveals she is writing a tell-all memoir about her firing from the network and will lift the lid on her relationship with ousted-CEO Roger Ailes

    EW. At some point she was going around talking about her problems with alcohol, which were supposedly the reason she was fired from Fox. So, the book is going to be about a women drinking too much and banging fat oldies? Awesome.

    For those of you who just want the shirtless Rupert Murdoch photo from the story, here you go.

  31. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

    Don't drink the water in Hugo, Colorado, if you've got a drug test coming up.

    If Hugo, CO had any sense at all, they would bottle the water and lead the town to untold prosperity.

    1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

      That ... that is BRILLIANT!

      "THC Springs"

      1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

        "Come to Hugo's healing springs, gain insights into many things, bring the entire family and taste our wholesome THC."

    2. Brett L   9 years ago

      No, they want to be the plaintiffs in a giant lawsuit against the State of Colorado, not the defendant in a class action fraud lawsuit.

  32. RBS   9 years ago

    My cousin and some of her friends saw Ghostbusters last night. Her review: "I pretty much hated it." Naturally, her facebook friends are shocked and appalled.

    1. Brochettaward   9 years ago

      It was a godawful, uninspired bomb (I am ashamed that I was dragged to go see it). It did have two redeemable lines/moments, though:
      1. The scene where the Mayor gets angry and yells never to compare him to the Mayor from Jaws.
      2. The reference to the Ghost pottery scene.

      Everything else was terrible. And Leslie Jones is ugly and fat.

      1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

        And Leslie Jones is ugly and fat.

        So is Dan Aykroyd. No one cared, because he was entertaining.

        Take notes, Jones.

      2. bacon-magic   9 years ago

        And Leslie Jones is ugly and fat.

        Racist. *banned from the Twitters

  33. LynchPin1477   9 years ago

    At least we still Oliver Stone around to bring the batshit insane. Someone tell him the psychic type Pok?mon really *are* psychic!

  34. AddictionMyth   9 years ago

    Of course Thiel supports Trump's surveillance state - he is in the data mining industry. His company Palantir is poised to make billions.

    1. LynchPin1477   9 years ago

      Does that win the award for creepiest company name ever?

      1. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

        Check out wiki for their product names.

    2. RBS   9 years ago

      Peter Thielat work.

  35. robc   9 years ago

    Where did the police shooting story go?

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      It is gone where the woodbine twineth.

    2. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      It stopped resisting.

      1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

        Winner! *glitterbombs*

        1. straffinrun   9 years ago

          *Flash grenades*

          1. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

            Hater. You never let me have any fun.

            1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

              Fun? Glitter is evil! It gets everywhere and is next to impossible to get rid of. Just passing near someone contaminated with it will get you hit with it too!

              1. Eloh-Nroc   9 years ago

                *UCS retreats to men's room and searches foreskin and scrotum for traces of glitter*

  36. The Fusionist   9 years ago

    This is a link
    ">Russia Today sponsored a 3rd-party debate?

    That's pathetic, we need a 100% American organization to fill this need.

    1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

      Russia Today link

  37. Suthenboy   9 years ago

    Oh FFS. I wanted to see exactly how Trump bashed free trade so I clicked the link. It links to a Suderman article.

    I am getting dangerously close to following the good many other commenters in going elsewhere. I can take people being wrong. What I cant take are liars.

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      Eh. Suderman did the same thing in 2008, with his "why I can't vote for Romney" pieces. And then was shocked that Obama was exactly who he had always been.

      1. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

        why I can't vote for Romney pieces in 2008?? Maybe 2012?

        1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

          To be fair, a 'why I can't vote for Romney pieces in 2008' piece is a lot easier to write.

          "Romney did not win the primary. The end."

    2. Hamster of Doom   9 years ago

      I dunno. Liar is a pretty strong word. It might be just as likely that Suderman simply has his head stuffed so far up his own narrative that he can't even see what he's doing.

      You know. Like everyone else.

    3. This Machine   9 years ago

      I am getting dangerously close to following the good many other commenters in going elsewhere. I can take people being wrong. What I cant take are liars.

      I'm wondering if reason could just trade Suderman for McArdle, straight-up, no givesies-backsies.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

        No way would Bloomberg accept that. Reason would have to throw in a few promising interns, at minimum, and probably eat a good portion of Suderman's contract.

    4. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Suderman has a pretty severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. He's not lying on purpose, he just can't help it. He truly believes his delusions are real.

    5. robc   9 years ago

      The reason hiring decisions seem incredible at times.

      Weigel, really? Someone thought he was a good hire?

  38. Agammamon   9 years ago

    bashed free trade, and warned that we are in a "moment of crisis" from which he alone can save us.

    See - this strongman shit is what you guys should be attacking him on. Not that 'he's a shortfingered vulgarian' stuff.

    1. John   9 years ago

      Regardless of what you think of protectionism, I don't see how you can rationally call it "strong man stuff", whatever that is. The US has had a very protected economy during long stretches of its history. Were we ruled by "strong men" then? Places like Chile and the Philippines, when they really were ruled by strong men, were actually quite friendly towards international trade.

      If you want to say Trump is wrong about protectionism, fine. There is a case to be made that he is. That case, however, is not that he is trying to be a "Strong Man" by advocating for it. Making your case that way just makes you sound like an idiot.

      1. Agammamon   9 years ago

        You completely missed what I was saying. But hey - you got to call me an idiot so that must count for something, right?

        1. John   9 years ago

          Okay. I guess you meant the "he alone part". My mistake. That said, every politician I am aware of says the same kind of stuff. So, I am not really sure what the point of bashing just Trump for this is or how it really matters given that this sort of thing has become boilerplate language in politics.

    2. Citizen X   9 years ago

      "YOU'RE the vulgarian, you FUCK!"

      1. Private Chipperbot   9 years ago

        God, I love that character.

  39. Bwana   9 years ago

    This is a link

    I'm suing you for false advertising.

  40. John   9 years ago

    It dawned on me today why libertarians and conservatives don't understand Trump. Libertarians and conservatives are talking about freedom and Trump and his supporters are reacting to the problem of responsibility. And by that I don't mean either party rejects responsibility. What is happening is that libertarians and conservatives don't fully appreciate how much our economy has rejected responsibility and the effect that is having on the country at large. And I don't mean welfare in the conventional sense. Here is what I mean.

    In the 19th Century, the US had a very free economy. It also was a very harsh and unforgiving economy in a much different way than now. In the 19th Century everyone from the richest to the poorest was subject to the winds of economic fortune and the business cycle. When economic downturns occured very wealthy and powerful people ended up penniless and dying in poverty as a result. That doesn't happen today. Today we have the largest banking crash since the 1930s and the government bails them out. As far as I can tell no one who was in charge of those banks went to jail or so much had to take their kids out of private school as a result. CEOs run companies into the ground and walk away with multi million dollar severance packages while the employees end up unemployed and in many cases lose an entire life's work.

    1. John   9 years ago

      You cannot have a free market system where only the middle class bear the consequences of economic misfortune. The public won't stand for it. If the rich and powerful won't bear the consequences of economic downturns, the public will go to the polls and use the government to make them suffer.

      People say Trump is a populist. And he is really not in my opinion. Populism is Bernie Sanders. It is a politician offering to loot the rich of their ill gotten gains and give it to the people. And that is not what Trump is saying. Trump is saying that if we are going to insulate the elite from the consequences of economic freedom, then we need to do the same for the rest of the country.

      I don't think it is an ideal solution. Ideally we would go back to what we had in the 19th century and when the banks collapse our response is to say "well thems the breaks, we will give someone else a chance to build some new banks". Since that solution is not on the table, I will take Trump's over the Sanders' solution, which is what we are going to get if we don't do something.

    2. John   9 years ago

      Libertarians and conservatives don't agree with that. That is fine but they need to be thinking of a solution. Appeals to freedom and Capitalism alone will not work. Appeals to freedom and the wonders of the free market ring very hollow when only the middle class bear any of the responsibility that comes with the freedom associated with capitalism. Worse still, conservatives and their libertarian allies have inadvertently abetted creating the system we have. They push for things like repealing Glass Stegall, which in the abstract is good, but them allow Keynesian and Crony Democrats to continue to make the taxpayers pay the bill and insulate the bankers from the responsibilities that should come with their new found freedom post Glass Stegall.

      Until we stop the government from trying to manage the business cycle and insulate the rich and powerful from the effects of economic misfortune, we cannot have a sustainable free market system in this country. For this reason, Libertarians and conservatives both need to understand that blindly appealing to freedom and capitalism will not work. They must argue to address that problem or they can expect someone like Trump or worse Sanders to address it for them.

      1. The Fusionist   9 years ago

        Let's be fair - the intelligent libertarians and conservatives are pointing out these things, and even pointing to the old fraternal associations and mutual-insurance groups that used to be much more widespread than now, when the respectable working classes got together to help each other out in times of need.

        There were still serious holes in the social safety net. If you didn't provide for your future, or if the company you went with was dishonest or ill-managed, you were fucked. Or if entire sections of the economy started sucking at once, you were fucked. Unless the churches came in.

        In the Great Depression, individual charity was inadequate for the problem, and of course instead of adopting welfare spending as an emergency measure to last only so long as the Depression lasted, the feds took the crisis as an opportunity to start tinkering with the whole economy and make it as corporatist as they could - they would have gone full-on fascist (at least economically) if the Supreme Court hadn't told them not to overdo it.

        So when the economy tanks and people lose their jobs, the most vocal are those who say it's capitalism's fault and the government needs to *permanently* take a more controlling role.

        1. John   9 years ago

          The "Great Depression" was only great because it lasted so long. Both the 1873 and 1837 depressions were much more severe. They just didn't last as long because the government didn't step into "help".

        2. Free Society   9 years ago

          In the Great Depression, individual charity was inadequate for the problem

          That's a load of horse shit. There were depressions in the 1800's that were much deeper, but much shorter in duration because there wasn't an all powerful state to prolong it and an all powerful central bank to stymie the natural recovery process, in addition to the fact that the two aforementioned institutions were themselves responsible for the bubbles that preceded the Great Depression.

          I suppose you'll also credit FDR's nationalizations, rationing and quota systems, because apparently Jim Q Public doesn't know how to sell a widget to Bob Sixpack who himself doesn't not know how to buy one.

          1. John   9 years ago

            We had had much worse downturns before when the country was overall much less wealthy and no one in this country ever starved. It drives me nuts when people act like FDR saved us from becoming Ireland during the potato famine or something.

            1. Free Society   9 years ago

              Or when people claim that Hoover's policies represent the free market approach to a depression. Similar to progressives claiming that GWB represents the latest example of laissez faire capitalism.

      2. Brett L   9 years ago

        I agree completely. The government should be prevented from transferring money to private corporations in any scenario except for refunds for taxes paid, an invoice for services rendered, and in payment of a contract. All parties should be subject to the same civil law regarding these cases as cases involving only private parties.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          The government should be prevented from transferring money to private corporations in any scenario except for refunds for taxes paid, an invoice for services rendered, and in payment of a contract, full stop.

          1. WTF   9 years ago

            At this point just stopping them from socializing risk while privatizing profits would be a good start.

            1. John   9 years ago

              Socializing risk and privatizing profit. That is the term I was looking for but couldn't remember. And that is why people are so pissed off. They should be. Libertarians understand the socializing risk but don't talk about it enough. When is the last time Gary Jonson talked about that? And conservatives just pretend like the socializing risk doesn't exist or isn't a problem. Conservatives, or at least the beltway variety, have been so co-opted and corrupted by the elite, I am not even sure they see it as a problem anymore.

              1. robc   9 years ago

                Libertarians understand the socializing risk but don't talk about it enough.

                Libertarians spent 40 years talking about it.

      3. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

        I think you miss the libertarian point that the government should not be allowed to bail out industries. The freedom and capitalism that you mention is a result of limiting the abilities of government to those powers enumerated in the constitution that created it.

        1. John   9 years ago

          I don't at all. I fully understand it. The problem is Libertarians don't understand that at this point in time, that part of the free market has to be restored before anything else.

          Beyond that, I am also talking about conservatives. And conservatives are much worse offenders. Libertarians at least understand that. They just don't emphasize it enough and don't understand that right now it needs to be the primary message. Conservatives don't even go that far. They don't even realize there is a problem. They think they can just talk about "freedom" and the "constitution" and everyone will suddenly agree and get with the program. Worse, a good number of conservatives think bailouts are not such a bad idea in extreme circumstances.

          1. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

            Worse, a good number of conservatives think bailouts are not such a bad idea in extreme circumstances.

            At that point they become something other than conservative. A conservative that doesn't believe in conserving resources that are spent by government...simply 'isn't'.

    3. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

      It dawned on me today why libertarians and conservatives don't understand Trump

      So it has not dawned on you that there is a possibility that some people understand Trump and still do not like him?

      1. John   9 years ago

        I never said they had to like him or that I didn't understand they did. What I am saying is they understand why he appeals to people because they don't appreciate the problem that he is offering to solve. They think it is just blind populism or celebrity or raw desire for free shit. And that is not what is going on. People are pissed off for a reason. And the reasons are more than just the economy sucks. You can't expect people to embrace "freedom" when freedom means "freedom for everyone but responsibility for only those who are not rich or connected".

        1. robc   9 years ago

          But freedom doesnt mean that. What libertarians supported TARP or bailouts or any of that rent seeking shit?

          It is Trump who supports Kelo, not libertarians.

          1. John   9 years ago

            Of course it doesn't or shouldn't mean that. But it has come to in effect mean that today. And yes, Libertarians never supported TARP. I didn't say the did. What Libertarians don't do is craft a populist message that first addresses the responsibility issue. They talk about the responsibility issue secondarily if at all. Instead, they laud the free market and accuse anyone who dissents of being a stateist or a communist. That isn't effective.

            Libertarians are a small group of course. its conservatives who have really failed. They completely misunderstood why the public is angry and made no effort to address the issues I talk about. And that is why Trump destroyed them.

            It is a hard problem. I don't know how you get the toothpaste back in the tube. It would help if conservatives ran a more angry "we are going to put a stop to this shit" campaign but I don't know at this point how they could get the public to believe them. How do you sell "next time we are going to step away and let those fuckers pay for their mistakes" when both parties have spent 70+ years doing just the opposite? I don't know to be honest.

            1. robc   9 years ago

              Elect a libertarian (even if he is just a libertarianish republican) instead of Trump.

              Then maybe people will believe the GOP when they shift. Or they can just die and the LP can take over the space.

              1. robc   9 years ago

                Like the GOP replaced the Whigs who refused to take a stand against slavery.

              2. John   9 years ago

                That is nice Rob, but why should the public trust that person to follow through with their promise? And even if they did, that won't satiate the anger the country feels over what has already occurred.

        2. Agammamon   9 years ago

          Except Trump's policy - as far as he actually has a policy - is to 'take money from other people and give it to you'. He's pro-protectionism - which is just flat-out nothing more than protecting a special class of producers (ie, those that get on Trump's good side) at the expense of consumers (ie, *everyone*). He'll somehow magic up billions of dollars to build (man and maintain - let's not forget the ongoing costs) a wall between the US and Mexico - without any serious consideration of the bonuses and maluses of illegal immigration.

          He'll 'forbid companies from leaving the US' - essentially saying that you and your shit belong to the government.

          Infrastructure building - massive public works projects that no one needs have worked out so well for countries like China, Germany, Russia, and us in the past.

          Oh yes - more railroads. Because . . . who the fuck knows.

          All this stuff is just going to take money from the rest of us to enrich his cronies.

          The only problem he's offering to solve is the same one Clinton and Sanders are - the problem of your neighbor being richer than you.

          1. John   9 years ago

            You miss my point. I didn't say you had to agree with him or that his solution is the best or even a good one. I said it was better than the Sanders' solution and those are the only two ones being put on the table.

            My point isn't that you should go out and vote for Trump. My point is that you should understand why Trump is succeeding and why people have soured on capitalism. Until you address those issues, you are not getting anywhere. Telling people "just suck it up" isn't going to work when everyone knows "just suck it up" doesn't apply to everyone.

            Creating a capitalist system where everyone from rich to poor bears the responsibility and consequences of economic downturns has to be the goal. It can't just be the freedom half. It has to include the responsibility half or you are just helping to create a system that is stacked for the rich and powerful and is going to lead people to embrace real revenge socialism.

        3. perlchpr   9 years ago

          But I don't think GayJay can out-Trump Trump there. Even if he starts talking about Kelo and TARP and whatnot, and how the politically connected get their debts paid while they get to keep their profits, he's not going to turn Trump supporters to the Libertarian ticket.

    4. robc   9 years ago

      And so the solution is a President who has bankrupted how many companies without going penniless himself?

    5. Zeb   9 years ago

      libertarians and conservatives don't fully appreciate how much our economy has rejected responsibility

      I don't know. I think most libertarians and many conservatives get that pretty well. That's pretty much how I would describe the main problem with the economy and how the government trys to "fix" it. Probably you are right that simply extolling the virtues of free markets isn't a solution to the real world problem, though. What is the solution?

      I'm not entirely clear on what you think Trump intends to do to fix it.

      1. robc   9 years ago

        Trump intends to double down, only for himself and his friends instead of the friends of Bill.

      2. John   9 years ago

        You miss my point Zeb. He is the only one who admits its a problem and is trying to fix it. Stop obsessing about Trump. Trump is not what I am talking about. I am talking about the situation that has made Trump appealing and made arguments for free market capitalism ring so hollow with most of the country.

        Libertarians and conservatives have a bad habit of talking in buzz words and being so afraid of being seen as populist or worse "anti elite" that they won't take on the real problems our system has and offer solutions. Instead, it just becomes appeals to freedom and the market broadcast to you from Rainbow Puppy Island.

        Sometimes anger is justified. And sometimes justice does need to be served. I wish Libertarians were as angry at asshole CEOS who run their companies into the ground and walk away richer or shithead cronies who take bailouts as they are at cops.

        1. Zeb   9 years ago

          Sorry, I thought you were saying more than that Trump had correctly identified a problem.

          I'm pretty sure I'm not obsessed with Trump. You won't find any comments from me freaking out about that. You brought him up. I'm as sick as anyone of hearing everyone freak out about him. He's just another shitty candidate with a different style than most.

          I think you are right to say that not enough anger and attention is put on the bailouts and cronyism that goes on between big business and government. It's a lot easier to gin up outrage about police, because they are potentially a more immediate threat to everyone and they play a significant role in keeping poorer people from getting ahead. But the larger systemic problems aren't as sexy and get less attention.

          1. John   9 years ago

            I think Trump has proven it is easier to gin up outrage about the cronyism than you think. You don't like his solution and that is understandable. But Libertarians of all people should understand that the grievances that are driving his support are justified. Libertarians have allowed themselves to buy into this idea that anyone who is claiming to have been fucked over by the current economic system is just some nativist welfare queen. And certainly that happens but there is more to it than that. Libertarians intellectually at least understand that the system we have is not a true free market and that it is in many case socialized risk and privatized profit. For this reason, they should be more receptive and supportive of people who have economic grievances against the current system.

            I think some of it is that they are afraid of being seen as socialists. No, you don't have to be a socialist to understand how people are getting screwed right now. You just have to be able to articulate better solutions.

            1. perlchpr   9 years ago

              For this reason, they should be more receptive and supportive of people who have economic grievances against the current system.

              Yeah, but I never hear basically anyone except libertarians make that lament as "I sure wish the market was freer!" It's always in the form of "Hey, I I want free stuff too!"

    6. widget   9 years ago

      It dawned on me today why ...

      No. I do read your posts. Nothing but the sun dawned on you today. There are little hippy crazes like home ownership and public-private partnerships that distort the market way beyond its usual ebbs and flows. Little at first, but politicians ride these waves and get votes for doing so. They stir the ocean to make themselves right in retrospect.

      1. John   9 years ago

        Go fuck yourself. Sometimes vulgarity is appropriate. You are an idiot incapable of having a serious conversation or thought about anything. So, do me a favor and troll somewhere else.

      2. widget   9 years ago

        Nothing but the sun dawned on you today.

        I intended that be a complement.

        1. John   9 years ago

          I am very sorry about that. My fault for being dense. Please accept my apology.

        2. widget   9 years ago

          Done and gone.

    7. You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)   9 years ago

      What is happening is that libertarians and conservatives don't fully appreciate how much our economy has rejected responsibility and the effect that is having on the country at large.

      Including Kevin Williamson?

      1. John   9 years ago

        Yes. Since you are stupid an illiterate you didn't understand my explaination of what I meant by responsibility.

        Let me ask you, is it hard going through life as dumb as you appear to be or is ignorance actually bliss?

  41. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

    Ivanka Trump spent her convention speech trying to convince America that her father isn't sexist, borrowing liberal talking points about the gender wage gap, and explaining that her father would make "quality childcare accessible to all."

    It's over, folks.

    If you believe in limited government, drink up. The party that used to talk limited government while walking big government isn't even talking limited government anymore.

    Enjoy our slow "progress" towards illiberalism and decay.

    1. Tonio   9 years ago

      Thanks, Debbie Downer!

      1. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

        Sorry bro. 🙁

        This election is a total Scheisse show

        1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

          Like Yakov Smirnoff opening for Spin Doctors at the Iowa State Fair.

    2. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

      Libertarian moment!

  42. Free Society   9 years ago

    "If the GOP was serious about changing its slow march to irrelevance, there should have been 10 [Peter] Thiel's to every Joe Arpaio, rather than the other way around."

    Because billionaires are our future.

    1. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

      If you tax existing billionaires and "spread the wealth around", everyone will become a billionaire.

      It's called the Keynesian multiplier or something.

      1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        I think it's called inflation.

        /100 Trillion Zimbabwe dollars.

    2. John   9 years ago

      he is gay free society. In the future everything is gay apparently.

      I was under the impression that being gay was more and more irrelevant every day in this country and that was a good thing. Apparently reason thinks that your sexual preferences will forever define your relevance to society.

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        Ohhhhh right. I forgot he was a member of the patrician minority. Reason does love to celebrate the irreversible demographic shifts.

        1. John   9 years ago

          I am going to go out on a limb here and say the future demographics of this country do not belong to the gays.

          1. Krabappel   9 years ago

            We'll always be here as long as you heteros keep making us.

            1. John   9 years ago

              Sure. But always in small numbers.

              1. This Machine   9 years ago

                Small-batch, artisanal, free-range, shade-grown gays. Just like Nature intended.

                1. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

                  I am not a homophobe, but the thought of genetically engineered, factory raised, growth hormone infused gays sounds scarey to me.

          2. Free Society   9 years ago

            super majority of "minorities". I would say the whole , "I identify as [insert non-heterosexual term, real or fictional]" is going to get highly common.

  43. Don Escaped Texas   9 years ago

    Help me with shorthand and history.

    Is "reasonable" a thing? Software? I read these comments through a simple browser....am I missing something? I don't know how all the cool fonts and links are created, but that's okay. I don't have any way to censor who I see posting, but that's okay as well.

    1. Injun, as in from India   9 years ago

      I don't use Reasonable. I use the Tor browser, now classified by the NSA as a tool of subversives. So no blocking trolls for me.

      The upside is that I get to the see the idiocy of people like American Socialist on full display.

      1. Free Society   9 years ago

        I've never seen the appeal of blocking anyone, except spammers. I don't worry that I'll become infected if I see dumb arguments. But regardless, when I see the whited out box of a blocked comment I can't help myself but to click to see who it is and what dumb shit they're saying today, so it's pointless for me to even try to block.

        1. You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)   9 years ago

          Odysseus tying himself to the mast.

    2. tarran   9 years ago

      Reasonable is a chrome extension:

      For a site called reason, you'd think it would block trolls, help users navigate comment threads, and show inline media. (Drink.)
      Designed to make your commingling with the cosmotarian commentariat at reason.com a marginally more enjoyable experience.

      Features (all toggle-able):
      * Blacklist trolls and blogwhores. Recommendations are made automatically from an online list, and there's an ignore button when reading posts.
      * Display delicious alt text directly underneath images. Also, for larger images you can click on them and view it full screen without leaving the page.
      * In threaded comments, toggle between showing all replies and direct replies
      * See YouTube videos and images in posts
      * Store the hyperlinks to recent comments you've made for easier access
      * See Gravatar/Identicon avatars
      * Improve load times by removing the Facebook and Twitter sharing APIs
      * Links to quickly insert HTML into comment forms

      1. John   9 years ago

        Have you found Chrome to be really shitty lately? It used to be a great browser. But more and more I find it to be glitchy and crash prone.

        Every browser seems to follow the same curve, start out great, get a bit better and then slowly get worse until it becomes unusable. That is what happened with Explorer and then Firefox and now at least for me Chrome. Why is that?

        1. tarran   9 years ago

          It depends. On my Windows 10 laptop, it is horrible. On my windows 7 machine it works like a champ.

          1. Zeb   9 years ago

            Yeah, I find it still to be great in Windows 7. One of several reasons I declined the free upgrade to 10.

          2. John   9 years ago

            Now that you say that, I never had a problem with Chrome until I upgraded to Windows 10. So at this point, should I just go back to explorer? Is there any way to fix Chrome and get it to run with Windows 10?

            1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

              Why would you downgrade to that piece of spyware?

              1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

                By that I mean Windows 10.

                1. John   9 years ago

                  Because I am not the administrator who makes those kinds of decisions. And it came on the home computer I bought last winter. I guess I could go to some open source OS, but I am not patient enough to get into computers enough to really do that. I am stuck laboring on the Bill Gates plantation.

                  1. lap83   9 years ago

                    I'd use Edge (automatically installed with 10) before going back to IE. It performs well, but it is very stripped down compared to Chrome or Firefox. So it's pretty good if you don't rely on Chrome extensions and only need a very simple browsing experience.

                  2. Timon 19   9 years ago

                    It takes 30 minutes tops to install most mainline Linux distros and the big ones all come with Firefox and a shitload of things that work just fine without all the fucking bloat and insecurity of Windows.

                    Most people who use the major productivity suites and web browsing and email will never, ever, ever have to even think about using the command line. The command line is very useful, but not necessary unless you're an admin, and that applies whether you run Linux, Windows or whatever.

          3. Timon 19   9 years ago

            Windows whatsis?

        2. commodious were cool on craze   9 years ago

          Chrome has been awful for loading videos other than youtube.

          What videos, you ask? Mind your own business, I say.

          1. John   9 years ago

            What kind of an idiot makes a browser that doesn't load as you put it "non youtube" videos? That is about as intelligent as having an ad blocker that prevents any picture or video related to cats or kittens loading.

            Don't those half wits at google know what the internet is about?

            1. commod dreamt of some bagels   9 years ago

              It used to work just fine. No idea what's happened, but Chrome insists it's updated.

              1. Timon 19   9 years ago

                Perhaps they've started blocking Flash-only already? At some point (and I don't blame them), Google is making Chrome actively block and/or refuse to load Flash-enabled pages. Mozilla is planning to do likewise.

                If a site doesn't have HTML5 videos by now, are they really worth visiting?

    3. commodious were cool on craze   9 years ago

      It's a Chrome extension. Firefox has a similar add-on called something or other, I forget what.

      Text formatting for bold (b) italics (i) strikethrough (s) and html links is explained here. Unsure how many other tags listed there work in comments.

      1. Caput Lupinum   9 years ago

        The Firefox version is called fascr.

      2. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        fascr

        https://bitbucket.org/bdhr/fascr/wiki/Home

  44. Haybob   9 years ago

    Comment thread is too long. Did someone already make a joke about Captain Crunch and Chester Cheetah being primary suspects in the THC water supply incident?

    1. Cdr Lytton   9 years ago

      You're the first I think.

  45. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

    Why is there no delicious alt-text with that photo?

    "So... you ever watched a gladiator movie?"

    "Tell me Jimmy... Have you ever seen a grown police officer naked?"

  46. Irie   9 years ago

    thc in the water: i bet the fiercest complainer will be the ones who support fluoridation of public water supplies 🙂

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