Military Times Reader Survey Finds 23 Percent Want to Vote Third Party
And 13 percent name Libertarian Gary Johnson.
Interesting sign of these times we live in from a survey of presidential preferences done by Military Times. The survey was done in early July of "1,915 active-duty service members, reservists and National Guard personnel, all of them Military Times subscribers."

They really, really don't like Hillary Clinton. So much so that a larger percentage—23 percent—say they intend to vote Third Party than say they intend to vote for Clinton, who had just 20.5 percent support, less than half of Donald Trump's 49 percent. (Despite Trump's near majority, "More than 61 percent indicated they are 'dissatisfied' or 'very dissatisfied' with Trump as the Republican nominee, including 28 percent of those who intend to vote for him.")
And 13 percent of them are expressly for Libertarian Gary Johnson. (That matches a national poll released this week also showing 13 percent for Johnson by CNN/ORC.)
Military preference for outre and even libertarian-leaning candidates is no new phenomenon; back in the heart of the 2012 race in late February, Ron Paul was raising twice as much money as President Obama from active military and defense workers, and more than four times as much as the entire rest of the GOP field at the time.
Military Times points out that this survey does not represent "a scientific sampling of the military as a whole," but they do believe it "is representative of the services' more senior and career-oriented members, those who run the military's day-to-day operations and carry out its policies."
Nearly 7 percent admitted they intended to not vote at all.
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SUPPORT THE TROOPS
VOTE TRUMP
Vote Jingoist Blowhard!
Vote Trump!
I think you meant to say "Support the tropes."
Yeah, 23% want to vote 3rd party and 1% will actually do it.
That Libertarian Moment doesn't extend to the polling place. [sad trombone]
If I was still a soldier I'd be thinking Johnson, too. Less likely to get you killed proving how long his dong (or clitdong) is.
GayJay has vowed to start "humanitarian wars" not in the US interest.
I think it's in the sane world's interest to smoke the slimeballs who support this.
Warning: graphic
Trump wants boots on the ground to defeat ISIS.
Please stop saying "Boots on the ground"
Fuck the Turks. They're just askin' for another Crusade.
My point was not anything to do with Turks. It was that the euphemism pretends that anything short of an armored division isn't REALLY committing US lives to combat. We've had thousands of troops in the northern Iraq/Syria area for the last 2 years. Acting like there's some potential vast scaling-up that would completely change the status-quo for the worse is retarded and insulting.
I was addressing your link, not your point (which I was aware of).
Looks like the Democrats will need to be losing or disqualifying some military ballots again.
I'm shocked that the troops don't support the individual who literally left veterans who continued to work for the government to die. Shocked, I tell you.
Code Pink protester holding REFUGEES WELCOME banner up in the cheap seats. It doesn't have an axe on it but it should.
"Axe me about refugees."
Based on what I just saw Rudy Giuliani may have had a stroke.
An Anthony Weiner moment?
He was doing this William Shatner delivery where he was shouting random words for no apparent reason.
He had a stroke years ago. It damaged his Broca's area so that he can't finish a sentence without saying the numbers nine and eleven.
Chris Christie couldn't reach that far.
My general impression of the military people I hang around jives with this poll. Support for Clinton among the enlisted ranks is very low, a slight majority favor Trump, and the rest either want a 3rd party or don't plan on voting.
One of the guys in my barracks wrote an anti-Clinton message on his door's whiteboard. It says something like "vote Hillary if you don't care if your buddies die. Vote Sanders if you forgot he already lost. Or do nothing and retreat to your safe space." Some wuss complained so he added a disclaimer that these are not the views of the Army. The whiner said something along the lines of "Augh! he's *telling* us who to vote for! That violates UCMJ because I wish it did!" Good grief, if you're that easily offended, what the hell are you doing in the Army? I really wish everyone would drink a big cup of cement and harden the hell up.
The current message on my white board is: It's important to release anger in healthy ways. For example, when I hear something I don't like on the radio, I shake it up and down to punish the little people who live inside.
Well, you are out at DLI aren't you? Not the hardest of the hard core, I suppose.
+1 weekly DnD tournament
+1 guidance memo on do's and don'ts of LARPing
How many military bases have comic book stores?
Are you shitting me?
Fuck! Now I regret not taking the job at Lackland.
Don't know about Lackland, but DLI had a comic book store. It closed recently. The rec center has a nice video game room.
DLI is easily the nerd capital of the military. Once duty hours are over, everyone puts on their Star Wars t-shirts and tries to relax.
Heh... duty.
Lackland is the Columbia U of USAF bases: overrun with SJW. For the nerd capital or DLI equivalent on the AF side you gotta head on down the road to Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo.
20.52% saw what happened in Turkey.
What actually happened in Turkey?
Either a coup run by imbeciles or just some people mildly bitching about Erdogan and the tyrant used it as an excuse to crack skulls. My guess anyways.
Johnson hasn't gotten 15% yet? And in the event he did, the CPD would say it wasn't a valid poll, etc.
So let me go back to my original plan - Stossel or someone could hold a debate - invite Trump, Hillary, Stein, Johnson and Castle - if Trump and Hillary don't show up find celebrities who support them and aren't afraid to explain why.
Hype the heck out of the event. Have the celebrities sit on Denethor-style smaller chairs under the empty chairs meant for Hillary and Trump.
Add some jello wrestling or something.
Steal the CPD's audience.
This beauty pageant is awesome. Ms. Russia is a knock-out.
Sorry... Ms. Slovenia. She's a little too much SJW for me though. Her speech is veering in the wrong direction.
Your fave hag, OTOH, hasn't even gotten the feral pig vote.
It's what's on the inside that counts. HRC has a brain. Trump's wife, I suspect, doesn't.
Not even trolling. Boring. Try again.
Dude's rollin' on E again. Pay him no mind.
Not available in your country.
A video of immigrants?
Darude - Sandstorm, actually.
I like it. Run, Lola, Run.
HRC might have a brain, but it's been wiped to protect the secrets of the Clinton Foundation.
american socialist|7.18.16 @ 11:27PM|#
"It's what's on the inside that counts. HRC has a brain."
As did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the elder Kim, etc.
Are you trying to suggest that crooked piles of shit should be in power because they have the ability to add one and one?
That's . . . That's gotta be some pretty SJWy stuff then if a committed communist is saying 'whoa bruh, chill out'.
Technically speaking, "veering" means shifting to the right.
Chachi is taking off the gloves and the "Well, I never!" ensues.
Confusing. Here's the tweet. SFed.
REKT
I just want to make the debates.
I hear that if you get a terrorist to say "Radical Islam" backwards, he has to return to the Middle East and can't Jihad for 90 days.
We're the ONLY country to put a man on the Moon, General Flynn.
Yet another example of white privilege. Call me when we put a sassy black woman on the Moon.
How about something uplifting? Chinese nobody turns out to be a math genius.
"I'm slow-witted," he says. "I need to spend far more time studying math problems than others. Although I am sensitive to numbers, I barely have any knowledge about calculus or geometry."
I doubt those claims are true. If he were slow, those 'fast' guys woulda found that proof by now.
It's also obvious he has calc and geo knowledge, just not labeled as such.
Good on him.
Well, it was uplifting up until the part at the end where you can read between the lines and see that social pressure is going to make him give it up.
Yu worked on his proof during his free time while building a new home in his village last year.
What the hell have you done this week?
In other news, Muslims and Europeans making great strides in living in peace and harmony.
These are terrible acts perpetrated by terrible people.
However, the junior delinquent in me kind of enjoyed the pushing the van down the staircase caper.
Islamophobia is the Drapetomania of the 21st century.
Discuss.
That's all kinds of fucked up.
A twofer.
"Islamophobia" is a clever marketing term, a meme, a mind trick, which somehow got accepted as valid.
Booring. This speech is made for people who think HRC killed Vincent Foster and those guys in Benghazi. I'm over defacing the Wikipedia page of Michael Flynn. Wanna join me?
*snip*
... immediately following Melania Trump. In which he memorably chanted in a tone deaf manner U.S.A countless times as he tried to rally the other white folks in the arena.
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american socialist|7.18.16 @ 11:25PM|#
"Booring. This speech is made for people who think HRC killed Vincent Foster and those guys in Benghazi. I'm over defacing the Wikipedia page of Michael Flynn. Wanna join me?"
Well, they mighta missed on Foster, but Shrill tossed the diplomat under the truck just as clearly as she destroyed subpoenaed evidence.
Slimy commies don't care about such things, right, slimy commie?
My wife asked me, "What is that strange site you spend time at?" My mind went through it's Rolodex, trying to figure out which one she meant, but some of those cards were stuck together. Decided it's better to ask her which site she meant. "The one that hates the government."
What was the look on her face? Like, Christmas morning, or sucking lemons?
She's in a minor Buddhist sect. She's sympathetic to overbearing, centralized power. So I'm thinking Christmas morning. Can't know for sure given East Asians have only two expressions.
Which Buddhist sect? Some of the Tibetan sects hate the Dalai Lama because his tradition combines Buddhism with state power, whereas traditional Buddhism emphasized separation of religion and state.
Let's just say they are rather serious. I've spent some time at the temple, but it's not for me. Generally speaking, I'll take a person who believes in something that automatically comes into to conflict with collectivism as practiced by the state. I like agitators. .
SGI?
Good guess, but I refuse to confirm or deny. Also, Ikeda is a disgusting human.
Do they leave chocolate bars for the little Buddha statues at the altar? That always cracked me up. And they wonder why all the Buddhas are so chubby.
THAT'S HOTEI!
That's what I picture Crusty looks like.
If Crusty is anyone, he's Ji Gong.
And all this time, I thought he was admitting to being an asshat.
I'd buy this comic book.
From the 77th Jataka Tale, the Buddha on taxation:
Nagarjuna on taxes and free trade, from the Ratnavali:
Set up no new tolls and reduce those that are heavy.
Robert Poole has gotta hate that.
You've been waiting to use that for like forever, haven't you?
I think I've quoted it once before on here.
My favorite is the Buddha's budgeting and investment advice in the Sigalovada Sutta:
Looks like I need to quadruple my salary.
Confucius told a similar story of meeting a weeping woman on the side of the road. He asked what was wrong, and she said her husband and then later son had been killed by a tiger. He asked why she did not move away sooner, and she said she stayed because she was afraid of becoming a subject of an even more cruel warlord.
Confucius told his disciples that a tyrant is more fearsome than a man-eating tiger.
I gotta say, I enjoy the late night threads. It's a lot more chill, like a mountain brook.
I think abortion should be legal only for immigrants that receive govt benefits from Ron Paul if they refuse to make transgender cakes in the restroom.
Not bad, but needs more twirling towards freedom.
Urinal cakes?
But did the Buddha predict when rulers would simply skip the crushing part and instead co-opt their subjects with bribes from the state treasury?
OK, a bit more good news.
Backstory: The Warriors bought (yes, paid their own money!) for a site in the developing Mission Bay area of SF to build (with their own money!) a stadium. You read that right; their own money.
The land had been bought by Sales Force who decided to stay closer to downtown and put it up for sale. A low-ball bid came from UCSF; the Warriors offered asking and got the plot.
Under some bogus claim that the entire area should be devoted to bio-research, a group leaned on Benioff (Sales Force CEO) to 'donate' the land to UCSF. Benioff pointed out that it wasn't his land; it belonged to Sales Force's stock holders, the answer was "No". The group swore to "tie up the stadium in court until the cows came home". They really said that.
"Warriors win judgment in fight over SF Mission Bay arena"
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/.....385295.php
I can hear the cows in the farm yard now...
"The entire area should be devoted to bio-research..." Ah, San Francisco....
And the disconnect between the (presumed) profitability of the businesses and the demand for 'free' land from Benioff was really hard to swallow.
The folks behind the group have been, shall we say, less than visible, and it is certainly their right to be so, but it does raise questions regarding who might have profited from the 'free' land.
Someone saw it sufficiently valuable to hire some high-priced legal and PR help, until there was a parting of the ways:
"Meanwhile, the Mission Bay Alliance's consulting team is in flux. The group's PR firm, Singer & Associates, quit this week, a team source confirmed after the news was first reported by the San Francisco Business Times. And it is now working with legal firm Browne George Ross LLP after Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP left the case in April, according to the website."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/warr.....uling-soon
Don't think I'm acquainted with anyone at either firm, but it's worth poking around...
I thought the Cow Palace was in Daly City.
The land had been bought by Sales Force
Worst action hero team-up ever.
This is part of the reason why so many stadia are government-subsidized.
I'd like to see more sports teams just build themselves, but when they plan to, the nimbyists come out and gum up the works.
"Military Times Reader Survey Finds 23 Percent Want to Vote Third Party"
You could read this headline with a French Canadian accent and it would probably still be true.
No new posts. I guess Welch is off slamming cocktails with John Podhoretz and Bill Kristol.
Maybe not:
Matt Welch Verified account
?@MattWelch
The night "had more false endings than The Lord of the Rings," says @anthonyLfisher from a nearby couch, reading a Replacements book.
They were only good to the extent they were Bob Stinson's band. Which they were, live, until they kicked him out.
Meanwhile, Nick Gillespie is reading the Bix Biederbecke chapter in Nat Hentoff's Giants of Jazz scrounging for material to connect with Generation "Z".
Black Sheriff vs. BLM supporting journalist
Hilarity ensues.
Two current heroes of the right are a black sheriff and a gay journalist. That just goes to show that the left needs to redouble their efforts against racism and homophobia.
Today in derp: can't carry an umbrella in Cleveland, guns OK.
My anti-gun friends are posting that, and I have to admit, it's funny. And the election is only going to get more bizarre and absurd.
One of these things is a protected category specifically because idjits would dumb reasoning like this to get them banned.
Also, one of these things is almost certainly not going to be used for some blinkered protest. I can see an asshole heaving a can of pork-and-beans into a crowd. I rather doubt a legal carry gun owner shows up to an event to make a statement and then ends up using the piece on someone.
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