Orlando Shooting

After Orlando, Donald Trump Hints That President Obama Might Be Linked to Radical Islam

Trump is once again indulging in paranoid conspiracy theories about the president's background.

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In an interview with Fox News this morning following yesterday's attack in Orlando, Donald Trump repeatedly hinted that President Obama might be connected or sympathetic to radical Muslim terrorists. It is the latest evidence that Trump is either a paranoid conspiracy theory himself, or is willing to exploit hate and paranoia for his own personal gain.

"Obama doesn't get it. Or he gets it better than anyone understands. It's one or the other. And either one is unacceptable," Trump said on Fox and Friends.

"Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said during the same interview, reports The Washington Post. "And the something else in mind—you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

Something else in mind. Something going on. It's inconceivable. He gets it better than anyone understands.

This is the sort of language that Trump uses when he wants to seed an idea that cannot be stated directly. It allows him a measure of deniability later on, even while sending a clear signal to supporters inclined to listen.

And the signal that Trump is sending here is that President Obama is somehow connected with or inherently sympathetic to jihadists.

No, Trump is not explicitly saying that Obama has some sort of a link to Islamic extremists, but he is implicitly raising the possibility, drawing on lingering fears especially amongst GOP voters, that Obama is himself a Muslim. As recently as last September, 43 percent of voters said in a poll conducted by CNN that they believed President Obama was a Muslim; in a separate poll that same month, 54 percent of Republicans said the same.

Trump himself has helped stoke those fears for years with his own high-profile remarks about President Obama's birth certificate.

In 2011, he made a public announcement that he would be conducting an investigation into the question of whether the president was really born in the United States, sending investigators to Hawaii, where Obama was born, to look for (presumably contrary) evidence.

"I don't know. I really don't know," Trump told CNN when asked whether Obama was born in the United States. At the time, Trump told Fox News that Obama "doesn't have a birth certificate. He may have one, but there's something on that, maybe religion, maybe it says he is a Muslim. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't want that."

I don't know. Maybe religion. Something on that.

Trump's hedged language and convoluted speaking style allow him to maintain the pretense that he is just raising questions, just following the facts to whatever conclusions they might reveal, even while raising dark possibilities that owe more to the plots of low-rent thrillers than to the mundane realities of American politics. He followed a similar course earlier this year when asked about the possibility that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia might have been murdered, saying, "they say they found the pillow on his face, which is a pretty unusual place to find a pillow. I can't give you an answer." Trump has also appeared on the radio of prominent conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, and, at the end of the GOP primary race, suggested a link between rival candidate Ted Cruz's father and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy

Given how frequently Trump indulges in this sort of brazenly paranoid rhetoric, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that he either believes much of this nonsense himself, or he is cynically and deliberately spreading hate and false information in order to service his own image and agenda. As Trump might say, it's one or the other—and either one is unacceptable.

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  1. Dog whistles!

    1. Dammit, I came here to make this exact comment.

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        1. I always figured you preferred yokeltarians to cosmotarians.

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  2. I look forward to the calm, rational responses of the resident Trumptards.

    1. No, I suspect their responses will be much more apropos Suderman’s posturing.

  3. Obama is part of the worldwide Progressive / Socialist conspiracy which si the root cause of so much that is wrong today. I was talking with a friend a couple of days ago, and explained the practical things which led me to becoming an anarchist. Everything the government does seems to do just the opposite of its (stated) intentions: minimum wage and occupational licensing hurt the poor and benefit the better-off; civilian disarmament reverts to might makes right, benefiting those who are born strong and/or vicious, and the rich who have time to train in martial arts; even radio frequency allocation and air traffic control, which might seem like natural arenas for government control, began as spontaneous creations of the users, and only came under government control once the politicians and oligarch cronies discovered they could control the purse strings.

    (I do know that minimum wage laws and their ilk were expressly designed to do just what they do: disadvantage the poor and unskilled. But that was then, and this is now: the current stated intention is to help the poor, and the different is that the proponents intentionally remain as ignorant of reality and economic principles as possible, because reality scares them.)

    1. and the rich who have time to train in martial arts

      Rich people don’t train in martial arts, they hire samurai.

      1. I suppose “rich” was an inarticulate choice. I meant the broad category of people who are rich enough to hire bodyguards, or have time to train, such as was the case with swords, or who otherwise benefit from the lack of an equalizer such as the gun. “God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.”

      2. I have astral samurai. They eviscerate my enemies i their dreams.

      3. Samurai? Phhhtt!

        I hire ninjas.

      4. Rich people don’t train in martial arts, they hire samurai.

        If I need killing done, I’ll do it myself; I’m no slacker.

      5. Rich people don’t train in martial arts, they hire samurai.

        If I need killing done, I’ll do it myself; I’m no slacker.

        1. Excuse me, there’s some squirrels that need dealing with.

  4. Apostasy is a grave sin in Islam.

    1. +1 tombstone

  5. Do birth certificates normally mention your religion?

    1. I think in some jurisdictions they list the religions of the parents, but usually not the child. I have no idea about HI birth certificates, and I’m too lazy to look it up.

      1. And neither of Obama’s (biological) parents were Muslims, anyway. His stepfather’s religion would not show up on any birth certificate.

        1. They were communists, so we already know Obama’s religion.

          1. ^This.

            I almost feel sorry for the guy. He was indoctrinated from birth. He isnt smart enough to be one of those people who see the error of his elders and rebel.

            He never had a chance to be a decent human being.

            1. Much like you were born a stupid redneck and will always be a stupid redneck.

              1. pay your bet, you greasy little weasel.

              2. Ahh yes. The obligatory xenophobic “redneck” comment from a resident welfare rat.
                Get back in your free cheese line and leave the thinking to the thinkers.

            2. Yep, Barry was a total momma’s boy. the people who were most formative are the one’s he never mentions – his white grandparents.

  6. Let’s hear some Trumpites crowing about how this paranoid 85 IQ lunatic going to win in a landslide. We don’t have nearly enough of that here.

    1. Never underestimate how terrible a candidate Hillary Clinton is.

      1. Yeah, I would make no bets at this point. What I will say is that this election is a lot more competitive than many people seem to think it is.

        1. The current RCP average has Clinton ~+4. That’s basically a landslide in a general election, but a lot closer than it was. Who knows where it goes, but it’s not the double digit disparity it was recently.

          1. That’s a +4 spread with a 3% margin of error, or a possible swing of 6. So the outcome range is Clinton +10 to Trump + 2. And it’s 5 months to the election.

            1. Hey bud, I don’t think that’s how math works.

              4 +/- 3 is from 1 to 7.

              1. The assumption is that voting share is zero sum. I’ll admit that third parties and non-voting affect undermine that assumption, but my math isn’t wrong given the assumption. If one gains 3% then the other must lose 3%, so the shift in the spread is 6.

              2. Ok, I’m confusing two concepts here. The margin of error is 3%. That has nothing to do with people changing their votes, but rather represents the statisticians’ estimate of their own uncertainty (which is itself predicated upon some assumptions about “level of confidence”).

                So the range of variation in the estimate is expressed as Clinton 44?3% and Trump 40?3% which means that Clinton has anywhere from 41 to 47% of the vote while Trump has anywhere from 37 to 43% of the vote. That gives anywhere from Clinton +10 to Trump +2 right now with nobody changing their mind.

                The zero sum argument I made above applies over the course of the election; people change their minds. However, it has nothing to do with the margin of error, so 3% in that case is just a number from my ass.

                Nevertheless, the math is correct.

                1. Thanks for this, actually. I thought the MOE you were referring to was in reference to the spread (which I found odd because I couldn’t find that). In which case, my logic would’ve held.

                  If the MOE is in reference to each candidate’s support, you’re absolutely correct.

                  1. It has to be in reference to the base figures. If it were only the spread, then where does the uncertainty come from?

                    1. The uncertainty could’ve been reported in terms of the spread, as the candidates’ margins of error are additive (given the zero-sum nature here, as kbolino noted). My mistake for assuming that was the case.

                2. Uh, no. V(A – B) != V(A) + V(B)

                  1. V(A – B) != V(A) + V(B)

                    Who was talking about variance?

          2. Given this attack, I expect any advantage Cankles had to evaporate with her likely insistence Islam had nothing to do with it.

    2. I don’t buy the whole 85 IQ spiel. That’s fair of the bulk of his supporters. But, accurately defining and structuring a campaign to that market suggests above average intelligence.

      1. maybe, maybe not.

      2. It’s the fair bulk of Hillary supporters, too.

      3. I find it incredulous that people think Trump has a low IQ. But probably most of the time it’s just name calling. And since Trump supporters in the primaries were wealthier than the average Republican primary voter it’s hard to argue that his supporters have lower IQs since income and IQ correlate positively.

        1. The folks pushing this are the ones who believe any and all Republicans and conservatives are, by definition, low-IQ.

          1. No, they’re low-T. That’s the problem. We need a Trump to bring in that vital vitamin-T.

    3. Why is it crazy Warty? Do you agree with Obama that what happened Saturday has nothing to do with Islam? If not, how do you explain Obama’s behavior going back to calling Fort Hood work place violence?

      I don’t see anything wrong much less crazy about what Trump said. Yes, what the fuck is wrong with the President? Why does he continually lie and spit the country’s face after these things?

      1. Do you agree with Obama that what happened Saturday has nothing to do with Islam?

        In the same sense as the guy who kills because of the CIA mind control satellites has nothing to do with the CIA.

        You know, there’s a tiny proportion of homicidal maniacs. James Oliver Huberty, George Hennard, Dylann Roof, Adam Lanza, Nidal Malik Hasan, Charles Whitman, James Eagan Holmes, Seung-Hui Cho, Elliot Rodger, Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, Robert Lewis Dear, Aaron Alexis, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. What do they have in common? Yep, they’re nuts.

        Of course, yelling MUSLIM! MUSLIM! MUSLIM! is job security for you.

        1. Yeah, no ideology ever has any relation to people’s actions. Nazism had nothing to do with the Holocaust, Communism nothing to do with the Killing Fields. It was all just the isolated acts of crazies. A radical Muslim killing 50 people in a gay bar or a Nazi rounding up and gassing Jewish children is exactly the same unexplainable event as the delusional psychotic killing the kids in Sandyhook because he thougth life was a video game.

          That is absurd and crazy. It just is. It is self evidently ridiculous. And anyone who believes it needs to look into taking Thorazine.

          1. They were making the same argument as Renegade over on Salon yesterday. Renegade and the gang are in good company.

          2. Say it enough times and you’ll get your paycheck this week, Comrade.

      2. John, don’t you understand that the cool kids here feel oh so superior to Trump and talk about him and his supporters the way progtards at Salon talk about non-progtards? You’re not being one of the cool kids.

        Don’t raise their ire, and trigger pants shitting with logic.

      3. It’s only that right now, Obama sees Muslims as part of his minions of useful idiots. If they had no perceived use to him, he would be just fine with deporting them all.

      4. It’s crazy because he’s gigantically unpopular and the crazy shit he spouts off, like this, is massively unpopular. The delusion that it takes to see it as popular is amazing.

        1. Obama’s not unpopular. For reasons that are a total mystery to me, his personal approval ratings have remained pretty high. I believe he’s over 50% now.

          1. It helps when his two potential successors are so appalling.

          2. He hasn’t done anything in a while, and his successors are appalling like Hazel says. When he hasn’t done anything to make everyone hate him in a while, he begins to look presidential by comparison.

            1. Warty,

              People don’t hate Obama because they are afraid to hate the first black President. So they always tell pollsters “Obama is a great guy”. That does not however mean that they in any way approve of his Presidency or what is going on in the country.

              1. Nah, its even simpler: Obama is pretty funny and seems pretty cool. He appears on the shows I like and he’s on reddit and stuff. Look he’s eating Vietnamese food with Anthony Bourdain! Isn’t that cool!

                and that’s it. You have the media also adding ever positive press in conjunction with viral marketing.

                1. ” Look he’s eating Vietnamese food with Anthony Bourdain!”

                  If you think this matters to a significant majority of the country then maybe you need to actually get out more.

        2. I don’t think it is unpopular at all. I think most of the country picks up the newspaper and sees the President blaming gun control and never mentioning Islam and says WTF.

          If anything is going to get Trump elected it is calling out the political class on bullshit like this.

    4. Project much Warty?

    5. I think we can comfort ourselves with the knowledge that he will be epically trounced in November.

      The Trumptards tears will be yummy and sweet.

    6. I think we can comfort ourselves with the knowledge that he will be epically trounced in November.

      The Trumptards tears will be yummy and sweet.

    7. I don’t think the people who say Trump will win in a landslide are Trumpalos or intend to vote for him. Some maybe, but not all.

      1. I’m not a Trump supporter and I think he will beat Hillary. Probably not in a landslide. I just call it like I see it, watching the polls and the trends. A lot can change between now and November. I successfully predicted Obama would win last time and I voted for Gary Johnson. The comments are still right here, so anyone who wants to check, can. I said Obama would beat Romney.

        1. Paul and I were also steadfast that Romney would lose to Obumbles. I think there were four of us all together.

    8. Let’s hear some Trumpites crowing about how this paranoid 85 IQ lunatic going to win in a landslide. We don’t have nearly enough of that here.

      Why would they do that when they can just watch you add load after load to your pants?

    9. Trump is the least disgusting Republican, likes libertarians, and is a persuader. When Peter finishes High School and starts dating he’ll become accustomed to the rough-and-tussle over government jobs that looter parties are into. I for one am THRILLED that The Don is realizing that like anarchism (whose brainwashees Congress barred from entry), is no less a berserker death-worship and no more of a religion than mohammedanism. Both mental illnesses institutionalize coercion, violence and murder, and are therefore not “the free exercise” protected under the First Amendment.
      The GOP is hardly different from ISIS, and the smart money is betting 3 to 1 they lose. The LP is using spoiler votes to improve four different looter parties (GOP, Dem, CPUSA, Green) and relegate another three ku-klux parties (Prohibition, Tea, Constatoochun) to the dustbin. Let The Antichoice get the beating they deserve already!

    10. Trump is a common authoritarian collectivist who will certainly never get my vote.

      That said,

      I don’t know how anyone watches Obama operate for 7 years without detecting some level of sympathy for radical Islam.

      1. At least a sympathy for Islam. He always seems to give them the benefit of the doubt that he doesn’t give to his domestic political foes. He values the good image of all of Islam too much to draw attention to the misfits.

    11. 85 IQ

      Trump is obviously quite intelligent. You’re clowning yourself.

    12. Trump is going to win in a landslide.

  7. John? Here’s the incoherent somnambulent drivel you denied ever hearing.

    1. No, see, that’s just Trump trolling SJWs. Only the stuff he says that John agrees with counts.

      1. What he said isn’t incoherent. He said Obama doesn’t get it and no one seems to have a rational explanation why. There really isn’t any straw you won’t grasp is there?

        1. when it comes to Trump, SugarFree turns into a constipated 70-year-old

          1. Better that than a brainless cult follower like you.

            1. I like how you think your reflexive anti-Trumpism is “thoughtful”, when we can reliably find you on any Trump thread calling names and doing little else. but by all means, suck up to Hillbot some more.

              1. And we can find you on every thread sucking Trump’s old carrot of a dick.

                And thinking that Trump and his worshippers are clowns isn’t supporting Hillary. But you might not be bright enough to understand that.

                1. you can have criticisms for Trump all you like, but your brainless and yet relentless burning hatred of him suggests that you’re pissed he had the temerity to challenge your Borg Queen. It’s the only explanation for why you waste so much time hurling small-minded insults over a topic you allegedly care so little about.

                  1. I care plenty about you being a shill on the board. It’s boring and you are obviously ashamed of your mindless ball fondling or you’d be doing it under your real handle.

                    1. that was weak. try harder, little man.

                    2. Ok, shill.

                    3. I should note that I haven’t “shilled” for anyone – I’ve just been upfront that I greatly prefer Trump to Hillary. I happen to think Hillary is a dangerous traitor and a criminal.

                      If that’s “shilling”, well, then you’re just bitching because someone is standing **for** something and bringing it to your home turf, where you’d rather act like a petulant nihilist.

                    4. Your constant whining that someone might not love your cult leader is exactly what shilling is, little bitch.

                      But yes, convince yourself that supporting Trump is somehow brave and radical, and not just worship of a Daddy figure that gives you the warm fuzzies by validating your naive idiocy.

                    5. you know, if one little politician is getting you this bent out of shape, you might want to consider some therapy. there must be some reason you’re all wound up about him. Insecurity issues, maybe?

                    6. Projection, the last refuge of someone that has no argument.

                    7. I hope you’re able to untwist your panties some day, SF.

                  2. your brainless and yet relentless burning hatred of him suggests that you’re pissed he had the temerity to challenge your Borg Queen. It’s the only explanation for why you waste so much time hurling small-minded insults over a topic you allegedly care so little about.

                    SF is really a secret Muslim Hillary fan. What other rational explanation is there?

                  3. Y’all listen closely to what the GOP and Dem are saying about each other… and remember that on election day.

                2. Well our choices are Trump’s carrot or Hillary’s strap-on. There really aren’t any good answers here.

            2. Cmon Sugar, you do better insults than that.

        2. John, TRUMP said it. So it has to be bad according to the cool kids here.

          1. At least you have some of the dumbest people who post here on your side, John.

          2. John gets paid for promoting stupid shit and his job as a government apparatchik depends on people believing it. Is that the case for you as well?

    2. He just said what everyone has been thinking for about 8 years now. How is that Obama can be so stupid or so weak he can’t call this shit what it is? is he really that stupid or his he on the other side?

      The only incoherent thing I see here is Obama. I wouldn’t say he is a radical Muslim but that is only because I cant’ tell what the hell he is or what he thinks.

      1. Religiously speaking, I think Obama is whatever he thinks he needs to be to get ahead politically. He attended Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years because he felt it would give him more street cred with black voters if he was seen attending a Black Liberation Theology church. As soon as it became a liability, he cut ties with Wright. He claims to be non specific Christian now out of convenience. His real religion is Progressive politics.

        1. True. But politically it does him no good to deny Islam had anything to do with this. It makes him look ridiculous and people wonder just whose side he is on. So whatever is driving this, it isn’t his cynicism.

          1. If you look at the Obama’s speechifying about Trayvon Martin and Dylan Roof, it is quite clear he likes the lofty rhetoric when he can aim it at someone he doesn’t like. I think it’s a bridge too far, however, to extrapolate that he likes radical Islam. Rather, I suspect he doesn’t want to be the kind of person who critiques radical Islam, lest he get mixed in with those who don’t like any sort of Islam. Obama wants to be a citizen of the world and his experiences in Indonesia where he learned about Muslim ways is part of the whole citizen of the world shtick. It would be selling out his biography to contemplate that there are imams as asinine as Jerry Falwell and Donald Wildmon so he stays mum. This clues in his supporters that he’s not a redneck hillbilly who’s suspicious of people who are different from him.

            But it also clues in Trump supporters that he takes them for fools, which is why they are supporting the clown who will speak their language instead of the cooler head that despises them.

            I write this as a reluctant Trump voter, fwiw.

        2. You know who else supported Positive Christianity without binding to a specific denomination?

      2. Idiot conservatives like you literally think that the single biggest problem with respect to terrorism is not singling out Islam for bigotry. It’s the same script every single time: We woulda been safe if only Obama had said “radical Islamic terrorism”!

        I can think of things more obvious and infantile, but they involve infants.

        1. Tony that doesn’t even make any sense. Its too irrational to even formulate a response.

          1. Every time there’s a terrorist attack by a Muslim anywhere, the single biggest concern for the fat flapping heads you get all your news from is that Obama intone the words “radical Islamic extremism” or whatnot. Trump has obviously jumped on the bandwagon in his obvious, feeble way. Their concern isn’t protecting anyone, it’s making sure that politically useful bigoted scapegoating remains the primary concern. They just can’t help themselves.

            Everyone knows when it’s a Muslim. Do you ever stop for one second to think there might be a reason the president doesn’t needlessly stoke Islamophobia, or give Islam the credit?

            1. Tony, the disagreements here are essentially that policy can’t be shaped without recognizing the problem.

              If the problem is Islamic fundamentalism and its incompatibility with western thought, then that’s an important observation that the President (and the entire citizenry) should be able to make.

              From a more tactical standpoint, the left would do well to stop calling this type of thinking ‘Islamophobic’. You are shoveling voters into the Trump camp by doing that.

              1. I think the president is being advised not to, say, do exactly what ISIS wants him to do by lumping all Muslims together when terrorism happens. The Right very much wants to turn this all into an anti-Muslim hatefest, because bigotry is their only idea about anything. Do you really think the president is unaware of the problem of Muslim fundamentalism and terrorism? Really?

                It’s not just out of concern for the safety of normal Muslims that thoughtful people in positions of power refuse to do ISIS’s rhetorical bidding, though god forbid we consider that too.

                1. I can’t tell which path you’re going down here:

                  1) ‘THINGS LIKE THIS ARE ISIS RECRUITMENT VIDEOS!’
                  or
                  2) ‘SHHHHHH DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL MURDER MUSLIMS!’

                2. “I think the president is being advised…”

                  Isn’t this just another way of saying he’s ValJar’s puppet?

            2. Since Muslims keep killing Americans it clearly isn’t needless. Oh, and fuck you Tony.

              1. Islamophobia is necessary to fight terrorism? What should I do about my Muslim coworker? Be specific.

                1. What should I do about my Muslim coworker?

                  That depends. Is he or she hot?

                  1. Push start or pull?? More information.

            3. Do you ever stop for one second to think there might be a reason the president doesn’t needlessly stoke Islamophobia, or give Islam the credit?

              Of course there’s a reason, Tony. At this time, Obama sees Muslims as useful to his agenda. That is all.

          2. Forget it John, it’s Tony-town.

          3. Man, it was just awful how people in my Dad’s generation kept blaming all sorts of violence on “The Germans” and “The Japanese,” when they really should have been focusing on ideologically- and racially-neutral means of identifying and diffusing the violence. FDR shoulda been ashamed of himself for inflaming public opinion against the Germans and the Japanese!

            1. I just love coming to Libertarian Central and seeing people defend racially-based internment camps and such. Never change, people.

              1. Way to move those goalposts!!

              2. More intellectually dishonest bullshit from the progtard. Fuck off tony.

        2. If you don’t name the problem you can’t fix it. Only you would think otherwise. But you probably think Islam is just a peaceful religion.

          1. Do you think the president is unaware that it was a Muslim?

            1. He’s living in denial about his own Muslimhood.

            2. It’s hard to distinguish between Obama’s treason, his stupidity, and his Marxist/Islamic delusions. Once he’s out of office, a drumhead style treason trial can sort that out.

              1. I see my absence has allowed total insanity to once again take hold.

                1. I didn’t see your absence.

        3. A Muslim democrat murdered a bunch of gays, Tony. You have a lot to answer for. Yes, you personally. Their blood is on your hands.

          1. Yep. It;s time to hold the progtards responsible for their enabling of terrorism.

        4. Yes, your strawman is quite infantile. So is a refusal to call a spade a spade. Really, there’s no shortage of infantilism to go around. In your mind, that is.

          1. Tony does have a shortage of cognition though.

        5. Idiot conservatives like you literally think that the single biggest problem with respect to terrorism is not singling out Islam for bigotry.

          So the biggest problem regarding terrorism, isn’t terrorism, terrorists or the groups and beliefs that promote them, but that icky people might draw conclusions that Islam and Islamic terrorism are somehow connected…

          I guess in the same way that the biggest problem with the Rotherham child sex ring isn’t the child rape, it’s that a child sex ring composed of Muslim migrants might give a bad name to Muslim migrants. I assume you were one of the cops that swept that under the rug and let it continue.

      3. Guns killed those gays, John. We need common-sense gun control to prevent anyone, regardless of race or creed, ever murdering gays again.

  8. Good gugu mugou, not this birther shit again. Obama is a natural-born citizen; I just think he’s ashamed of it, is all.

    1. As a spectator at spitting matches between religious conservative christians and religious conservative mohammedans, keep in mind that the bloodiest wars are fought between collectives that believe ALMOST the same thing.

  9. “Look, we’re led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,” Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. “And the something else in mind — you know, people can’t believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can’t even mention the words ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable. There’s something going on.”

    “Well there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it,” Trump said. “A lot of people think maybe he doesn’t want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. He doesn’t want to see what’s really happening. And that could be.”

    I’m not really reading this as a conspiracy theory at all. There is, as with anything Don says, plenty of room for interpretation. I interpret ‘something else in mind’ (which I think is really the operative phrase here) as ‘doesn’t want to draw attention to Islamic terror because it goes against his beliefs and vision’. But overall, I think this is just the WashPo trying to distract from the actual issue by insinuating that Trump thinks Obama did it.

    1. I’m not seeing a shred of conspiracy in there. I do see Trump questioning why the President can’t see or say the obvious.

  10. Really? Obama doesn’t get it is brazenly paranoid rhetoric?

    Wasn’t Reason saying that over the weekend when they criticized Obama for blaming the 2nd Amendment instead of the admitted Islamic terrorist?

    1. It is once People that hate Trump are done projecting their evil fascist strawman character onto him. Much like the people that love Trump project what they want to see, and how everyone did the same thing with Obama.

      1. I don’t project anything on him. I have just yet to hear any of his critics make any criticisms that made sense.

        1. Trade Protectionist. There you go.

          1. Yes but they never just say that. Instead, it always devolves into a “TRADE WAR” and various other bullshit hyperbole. And the people who make that argument seem to never understand it very well or how to make it properly.

        2. Taxes, Federal spending.

          Again, never mentioned even at Reason.

          1. I am not saying the criticisms don’t exist. His critics just never seem to make them.

    2. Once you understand that everything that comes out of Trump’s mouth is, by definition, evil, all the hyperbolic descriptions of what he said begin to make sense.

  11. You know who else indulged?

    1. Agile Cyborg?

    2. Hitler?

      It’s always Hitler. Although he was supposedly hopped up on Opiates and Amphetamines through most of WW2.

  12. I thought he’d move more towards the middle sanity wise once he won the nomination.

    A week of Trump statements like this could get Jesse Walker enough material to write a follow up book about the mainstreaming of conspiracy theories.

    1. Ken, no one outside of the beltway bubble and you thinks this is crazy. Everyone else knows that what happened Saturday was a result of radical Islam and is utterly dumbfounded why the President refuses to say the obvious. This has lead some people to speculate that he won’t say it because he supports radical Islam.

      The rest of the country picks up the paper and sees the President calling the Fort Hood shooting workplace violence and what happened Saturday “all of our fault” and a gun control issue and says “WTF”. You and the reason staff and the rest of their toadies apparently see nothing wrong with that. The sane world disagrees.

      1. This has lead some people to speculate that he won’t say it because he supports radical Islam.

        Yes and those people are generally paranoids. You don’t need to assume nonsense about Obama supporting radical Islam to get that predicted response from Obama. All you need to assume is standard run-of-the-mill academic political correctness.

        1. Probably but who knows. The point is Obama’s behavior on this is utterly inexplicable and Trump was right to point that out.

          1. The point is Obama’s behavior on this is utterly inexplicable and Trump was right to point that out.

            Except it isn’t inexplicable. Not in the least. I just explained it in one sentence. Without making the entire “secret Muslim” assumption.

            1. It also seems much more explicable when you consider that Islam is both a collectivizing and otherizing force. Meaning it objectively serves the needs of the hard left so must be at least tolerated.

        2. All you need to assume is standard run-of-the-mill academic political correctness.

          This. As I stated above, his “religion” is Progressive politics, no more, no less. He’ll do or say or pretend to be whatever he has to to advance the Progressive left’s politics.

        3. Obama’s foreign policy definitely supports that contention. Ever notice that in any foreign dispute between Muslims and other parties that Obama always sides with the Muslims? OR how about when two Islamic groups have a dispute? Ever notice that Obama sides with the more extreme party?

          It isn’t paranoia.

          1. There’s only a couple of explanations for Obama’s ME policy calls that explain the known facts:

            (1) He actually wants the Islamonutters to take and hold power.

            (2) He’s a blithering idiot.

            Personally, I go with (2). But if you don’t think he’s a blithering idiot, its hard to avoid (1).

            1. (1) He actually wants the Islamonutters to take and hold power.

              Which is precisely his reasoning for backing the Muslim B’hood in Egypt, so far as to declaring their overthrow illegitimate. He hasn’t gotten better since then.

            2. I think it’s a little of column 1, and a little of column 2. I don’t know what his exact vision is for Islam in the world. But it one that should never come to pass.

          2. Ever notice that in any foreign dispute between Muslims and other parties that Obama always sides with the Muslims?

            Like about 85% of the academic left? The Muslims have the victim card. They have since 9/11. And the academic left will generally line up behind the “victim”.

        4. Except that the ‘standard run-of-the-mill academic political correctness” tends to implicitly support radical Islam.

          Just sayin’

        5. Yes and those people are generally paranoids.

          Would it also be paranoid to think that Obama’s administration sent weapons of war to Mexican Drug Cartels in some bizarre belief that doing so would enable gun control domestically?

          Would it be paranoid to think that Obama’s administration would use the IRS to target political groups and individuals opposed to them?

          How about, the Obama administration’s lawyers brazenly lying to a judge in open court – without getting any rebuke at all, paranoid delusions?

          Would only a paranoid believe that the secretary of state would jeopardize national security with a sloppy home brew email server?

          And that it was done to cover up explicit bribery?

      2. I’m not sure that “radical Islam” is the root cause of this. I suspect “sociopathic whackjob” is the root cause, and “radical Islam” is the face he put on. I’ve said before, and will say again, that every human population has nutjobs, some percentage of them are violent, and all of them will latch on to some ideology that validates their desire to kill. Radical Islam is the popular one right now, that’s all.

        1. We don’t say “sociopathic whackjob”, it’s impolite. Say ‘Muslim’ like everyone else.

        2. Actually I would love to see what would find if you took 100 psychologist with the DSCM-V. I’d be willing to bet that, say afghanistan, is a lot more mentally fucked up here. Here, we are just fat and lazy.

    2. A response like this is basically what I’d expect from Trump though. The President responds with mealy-mouthed calls for gun control while saying “we don’t know his motivations” after the gunman had pledged allegiance to ISIS *during the attack*. This is exactly the sort of response that plays into Trump’s hands. “The elites are ineffectual and maybe even on the other side” is a well-worn schtick with him. I’m mildly surprised President Smartest Man in The Room ™ hasn’t figured this out by now.

      1. After 50 people were murdered by a Muslim in a gay bar and ISIS took responsibility for it, the President goes on national TV and says it is all our fault, and this whole thing highlights the need for gun control and never once mentions ISIS or even Islam.

        And you think it is crazy of Trump to say the elites are ineffectual and maybe on the other side? Isn’t that the truth? Just how the hell else would you describe this?

        1. I don’t think it’s crazy, I think it’s exactly what Trump would do and has been doing from day one. This is a textbook example of where Trump’s popularity comes from. I was responding to Ken’s comment that he was surprised Trump hasn’t tacked more the middle.

          Trump is authoritarian and simple-minded, but I don’t think he’s crazy and he clearly can depend on our political class to keep him popular.

          1. His popularity arises from his willingness to say what is obvious but that the beltway media and political establishment won’t say.

            1. This is exactly right. Trump’s secret to success if that he’s figured out that a majority of Americans are sick to death of the PC doctrine. So he says things no one else will say and when confronted by the PC mob, he stands his ground, mocks them, and this paralyzes them. They completely expect after years and years of watching spineless pussies back down and apologize whenever they demand it, that no one will ever stand up to them. When someone does, they collapse like a house of cards. Trump has their number, he knows it, and they have no answer to it. It doesn’t even matter what he says, or if he means it, it only matters that he is trolling the shit out of the PC wackos and people love watching these assholes squirm.

              1. And they fall for it every time. And reason falls for it as much as any of them. You would think reason, which prides itself as being above the team red team blue wrestling match, would see what is going on.

                1. this is why “Reason” should never have moved to DC. They fell into the bubble and now they can’t see past its edge.

              2. Yeah as Trump supporters in all their wisdom know, the single biggest problem in this country is that you can’t say nigger in polite company anymore.

                1. You can’t? I know a bunch of wealthy rappers who say otherwise.

                2. the single biggest problem in this country is that you can’t say nigger in polite company anymore.

                  Anyone who leans left – and Tony’s fallen over – always feels free to say that word. Of course, they always couch it in terms like you saw above. Just like little toddlers who ask their parents “I can’t say dammit, mom? I can’t say shit?”, only toddlers are cute and they’ll grow up to be less stupid.

                3. You go Tony! Stay stupid! Because you gotta be you!

                  Oh, and fuck off.

                4. Yeah, I can’t even see the goalposts anymore.

        2. Yep. Trump says what everyone’s thinking. Pundits are outraged, then puzzled as his poll numbers climb.

          I have a lot of problems with the guy, none of them are in this article.

    3. A response like this is basically what I’d expect from Trump though. The President responds with mealy-mouthed calls for gun control while saying “we don’t know his motivations” after the gunman had pledged allegiance to ISIS *during the attack*. This is exactly the sort of response that plays into Trump’s hands. “The elites are ineffectual and maybe even on the other side” is a well-worn schtick with him. I’m mildly surprised President Smartest Man in The Room ™ hasn’t figured this out by now.

      1. He’s a prog. Progs do not figure things out. They have a narrative and they just ignore everything that doesn’t fit that agenda. Leftists have totally failed everywhere they’ve ever gained power and have left death and destruction at the end of a failed state. ISIS could be descending on DC right now and chopping the heads off every infidel in their path and Obama would still be talking about islamaphobia and commone sense gun control. The left’s entire existence is based on myths and lies, to accept reality, to them is to lose faith in their great cause.

    4. I’ll buy that book. Mysticism cannot express itself other than as a cacophony of murderous conspiracies, and most indictments are for the thoughtcrime of conspiratzia!
      A looter party’s job is to round up morons and keep them frightened of hobgoblins. Trump is excelling at that dirty business, and making others appreciate how good it feels to vote libertarian and force the repeal of idiotic laws and taxes passed by BOTH mongrel hordes.
      I was bitterly disappointed until I realized that the LP uses EVERY VOTE to get rid of bloodthirsty taxes and brutish laws through the miracle of spoiler vote pressure. Now I cackle with delight whenever the Kleptocracy bites itself on the tail.

  13. This game where Mr. McArdle decides to ditch the Principle of Charity and starts reading tea leaves and whining like a three year old is getting pretty damn old.

  14. Didn’t we beat this topic to death years ago? I think Obama is an atheist in terms of religion but is culturally a Muslim.

    Not a giant reach to say that Obama does not want to acknowledge the violent aspects of Islam and creatively finds ways to avoid the topic.

    1. Yep. He’s with pretty much anyone and everyone who’s against America and the west, including the jihadis.

      And if in fact he worships anyone other than himself, it’s his intellectual forebears: Marx, Engels, Gramsci, Alinsky, etc.

    2. What the hell does “culturally Muslim” mean?

      1. I assume it is something of a corollary to culturally Jewish – people who practice much of the faith, but who are at best agnostic about the existence of a actual deity. In effect, a shared truth, if not the TRVTH.

    3. Is it really “creative” to follow a policy set by your predecessor?

  15. Trump himself has helped stoke those fears for years with his own high-profile remarks about President Obama’s birth certificate.

    You mean those rumors which originated in the 2008 Hillary campaign?

    1. SSHHHHHHHHHH!
      Quiet, please. Narrative construction is a delicate task.

  16. It is the latest evidence that Trump is either a paranoid conspiracy theory himself, or is willing to exploit hate and paranoia for his own personal gain.

    My money’s on the latter. He’s a carnival barker whose main goal is to get your attention. Whatever he thinks will get attention is what comes out of his mouth. There’s really nothing more to it than that. The media are morons for falling for it every time.

    1. I think you are right about that. But no one seems to be able to explain why what he said was wrong other than to say “that is crazy”. Fifty people get murdered by an Islamic nutcase and the President spits in the country’s face and says it was their fault for having bad gun laws. And somehow Trump is the crazy one for wondering just what the fuck is the matter with him. I am sorry but I can’t understand that. I really can’t.

      1. Fifty people get murdered by an Islamic nutcase and the President spits in the country’s face and says it was their fault for having bad gun laws.

        I think maybe Obama has Tourette’s syndrome and his particular tick is to go on TV and bloviate about gun control after every mass shooting. /only partially sarc

        He doesn’t want to talk about the Muslim terrorism angle because that would disrupt the leftwing narrative about Muslims being “oppressed victims.” The fact that this fuckwit specifically targeted gays, another leftwing victim group, doesn’t seem to matter much for some reason.

        1. What I found striking about Obama yesterday is how utterly bored he acted.

          1. He probably was. Everything with the guy is pro forma. Talk shit about Bush if you like, but he at least had the decency to engage with everyday events. Obama? Fuck it, he has links to think about.

            1. Obama? Fuck it, he has links to think about.

              He comments in the Am/PM Links? Interesting…

        2. What’s 50 dead gay guys but an even taller pile of bodies to get up on to push what you already believed?

          Those Newtown kids are all squishy now, they barely support him.

      2. John, it’s very important for the Reason commentariat to condemn Trump. No matter what, and at every opportunity.

      3. Gasp… for a second there I almost found myself agreeing with St. John the Landover Baptist. Let’s talk about the Libertarian Party in Puerto Rico, where open carry is OK and mohammedans kill nobody.

  17. Barack Obama doesn’t care about gay people!
    /nega-Kanye

  18. More red meat for the far left side of the bell curve. They’ll lap it up and come back for more.

  19. This is the only thing to enjoy about the Trump candidacy. ENJOY IT.

    1. As a circus it IS hard to beat. To better understand the Kleptocracy, hark back to when there was no LP. Some actually believed McGovern would beat Nixon and legalize weed! Trilbys for the Kleptocracy STILL live in such a monochrome flatland universe, and perform earnestly for our entertainment.

  20. Pete Macadoodle Suderweigel is freaking out because he knows this is really bad for his Obamessiah and for the Hildog.

      1. NEEDZ MOAR BLOCK YOMAMMA!

  21. “Trump’s hedged language and convoluted speaking style allow him to maintain the pretense that he is just raising questions…”, but Suderman is just going to make up whatever batch of horseshit Peter feels like that day.

  22. “Something else in mind. Something going on. It’s inconceivable. He gets it better than anyone understands.”

    I just read it as him saying Obama doesn’t want to “Islam” for the same reasons the rest of the Establishment Dems don’t. I’m probably not taking him far enough here.

  23. Frankly, Obama is probably at least as much Muslim as he is Christian, his formative years having been spent in Indonesia, and his latter years having been spent in the arms of Liberation Theology.

    But equally frankly, that’s a very different thing from suggesting that he might be in favor of radical Islam, which is unaccepable in the extreme.

    And beyond that, much more frankly, his religion makes no difference to me, one way or the other.

    1. Obama’s religion is the state, like all leftists.

      1. ^This^

      2. Try to get a court to protect communist initiation of force as the “free exercise” of… of… Woopsie. I was reading the 16th Amendment (Manifesto Plank 2) and mistaking it for the 1st.
        Nevermind…

  24. Trump is just saying what most of us who aren’t in the tank for Obama are thinking.

    1. It just bothers people here when Trump is right about anything.

  25. Obama is not a Muslim, that I know of. I don’t think the guy is even religious at all. What he is, is a radical leftist ideologue, and like all leftist, he only cares about what furthers the leftist agenda. People, groups, religions, it’s all meaningless to him, except for in how useful any of it is to his agenda.

    1. Obama is a communist traitor, and an Islamic sympathizer.

  26. it has to be a sad life, being a virulent, foaming Trump-hater like Suderman. we’re having a blast this election, and even if Trump doesn’t win, what he is doing is important, both for the culture and for the political system. meanwhile, Suderman’s just constantly in bitchface mode, acting like a miserable troll whose bridge got stomped all over by the God-Emperor.

    1. Is he even allowed field trips outside of DC?

    2. The Bernie bots haz a sad. Give them time to recover.

    1. Of course that’s what it is. Anyone who didn’t realize during Obama’s first term that the guy is a hardcore leftist ideologue, must have not been paying much attention.

    2. I just said above that he always appears so utterly bored and disengaged.

      1. Not everyone idolizes him or totally accepts that his failed socialist agenda will bring us rainbows and unicorns. How do you expect the emperor to be engaged when all of his subjects refuse to love him?

    3. Hypothetical question for everyone: If you could press a big red button and it would eliminate all forms of marxism/socialism from earth for all time, but instantly kill all leftists, would you press that button?

  27. Well DUH, seeing as Obummer IS a Muslim. Wake up sheeple.

    http://www.Got-Anon.tk

    1. STOP SAYING THAT! DO YOU NOT KNOW THE DANGER!

      https://xkcd.com/1013/

    2. Anon bot is sentient. Anon bot is sentient. Imperial forces have entered the base. Imperial for……..

  28. I think at least 50% of the reason Reason posts all of these Trump articles is to increase clicks. Maybe they are also trolling the commentariat some too. The commentariat cannot be well liked by the writers since we are so cynical, maybe it hurts their feeling. I suggest a safe space, I hear that does wonders for the butt hurt.

  29. the author is real good at interpreting someones words to fit his agenda,i believe they call it spin,Trump using hate and paranoia is right out of the lefts playbook

  30. Is it not obvious that Western Elites have some sort of symbiotic relationship with Islam? I certainly don’t fathom what that is, but how else to explain the huge focus on opening the doors to Muslim refugees? Why is Europe importing millions and overtly ignoring the concerns of its own populace? Why does the western world turn a complete blind eye to muslim perpetrated genocide in Africa, vast humanitarian crimes against women and homosexuals in leading muslim countries, and practically facilitating Iran’s quest for ‘the bomb’?
    Why does the western world have a complete inability to voice criticism of the cultural failing in the muslim world that lead to ideological crimes of terror? Why does the western world utterly ignore honor crimes against women?

    Obama walks and talks as if his primary job is to protect Islam from defamation. It is bizarre to me how he happily slings crass insults against Republicans, but yet bends over backwards to avoid any criticism of Islam.

    I don’t think Trump is at all paranoid to skirt the edge of questioning why that is.

    1. In the case of most western politicians (the Clintons being a prime example), I think it’s as simple as old fashioned corruption. The Saudi Wahabbi Lobby has cash to spread around by the billions to buy themselves protection, and they certainly do.

      In the case of Obama, it clearly goes well above and beyond that.

    2. WHYCOME BE THEM LETS IN MOSLEMS IT BE COSNPIRCY

      1. Do you have an adult response, or is that the best you got?

        1. Why are you idiots here, anyway? This hasn’t become Brietbart yet.

          1. so that would be a “no”?

            1. Mike I’ve been lurking here for 6 years and I don’t recall a thoughtful comment from Warty or Sugarfree in that timespan.

              Some people here just LOVE the echo chamber.

    3. The conspiracy theory on the topic goes like this: the international socialists are importing Muslims to dilute and eventually destroy their native, conservative, nationalist populations. The discord and even terrorism make handy excuses for larger more powerful security forces.

      The end game is statism – they are gambling that it will be enough to keep a lid on the Muslims and not have their states turned into Islamic Republics.

      1. It is difficult to find fault with that.

        With the mass immigration in recent years, I initially thought it was solely a method to prop up aging populations and provide economic viability to compete against the demographically growing China and India. Why else would the US and EU so readily stress their economic systems with a mass third-world influx unless there was some reward? But ya would think that the leaders would be more about “immigrate yes, assimilate-yes” to maintain social order rather than “immigrate-yes” and we will actively excuse you for not assimilating.
        It does seem like there is, at minimum, a willingness to accept a diminished social order in return. That’s effed-up. That is really effed-up.

    4. Is it not obvious that Western Elites have some sort of symbiotic relationship with Islam? I certainly don’t fathom what that is,

      As always, follow the (oil) money.

    5. Is it as simple as jihadists blow people up and cut off heads and other disaffected groups don’t?

      The Western world is so afraid of Radical Islamic terror that it’s trying every method of appeasement and placation?

    6. Because the west has become a fat lazy pussy that doesn’t want to slow down the gravy train or brook any slight bit of discomfort.

      1. When you need safe spaces for Halloween costume violence, you know you’re fucked as a society.

  31. “deliberately spreading hate…..”

    Dear Peter and Reason, for the love of god, why are you spreading progressive pussy jargon?

    1. FOLLOW THE MONEY IT BE A SJW COMPSRITACY

    2. Because he’s a progressive pussy.

    3. Also, like most D.C. families, Herself wears the pants in the houehold, and if Petey boy doesn’t do everything he can to help get the Hildog elected, Megan might withhold the once a week nookie sessions she reluctantly gives him now.

  32. Trump did not link Cruz’s father to the Kennedy assassination per se. Trump cited a tabloid article that linked Rafael Cruz to Lee Oswald in New Orleans. The article suggested Rafael Cruz appears in a picture that shows Oswald promoting the Fair Play for Cuba Committee on a New Orleans street. Why dismiss a suggestion like that as nonsense without checking into it?

    1. Especially when Cruz has said that his dad was opposed to Batiste and tried hooking up with Castro, but wasn’t able to find them, before he immigrated to the US.

  33. The crazed gunman might just have handed Hillary a victory. With her penchant for starting new wars in the Middle East, plus her strong appeal to gun-grabbers, she checks all the boxes for both left and right overreaction. Meanwhile the poor Trumpster is campaigning against Obama. Apparently he has forgotten that Obama is not running anymore and will soon be retiring to golf dates and $100K speeches. While I do expect Johnson to do well, I think this will be Trump’s chance,and he is already blowing it by going easy on Hillary.

    1. Hillary gave a speech earlier today. I’m sure she stuck her foot in her mouth to appeal to the progtards.

      1. Suicidy,
        She did appeal to the progtards, in both parties….

        Just as inigo stated, Hillary checked all the boxes – she demanded the Gays be disarmed and she demanded a much larger and more powerful police state.

        And, she did it all without the customary yelling.

        Trump should have highlighted Hillary’s promotion of Islam, not Obama’s.

    2. Obama is teeing up to begin campaigning for Hillary. This is the perfect time to begin punching Obama.

  34. Nobody cares at this point what Obama’s motivations are, least of all the 50 people murdered in Orlando over the weekend. Trump is taking a page out of the Harry Reid playbook, and I for one am glad to see it. So sick of these stupid rules of etiquette that seem designed to give away the store one penny at a time. Fuck Obama – who gives a shit what motivates his disastrous incompetence anymore? Is it malice, is it ignorance, is he from Endor? Who the fuck cares?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

  35. he, Obama, does have something else in mind. the more killing allowed inside of the U.S. by any entity is good for gun control freaks

  36. Look Trump is an ignorant ass but why do people find it so hard to believe that President Obama if not by faith holds a special place in his heart for Islam. During his formative years he was raised as a Muslim and went to Muslim schools in a Muslim country. Does this mean he has some hidden agenda. Of course not but like good Christians that went along with slavery and the wholesale slaughter of Native Americans maybe Obama sees Sharia law as somehow superior and American culture decadent. He has said as much enough times. America of the 50’s is long dead so I think it is best that we the people decide what we want as a nation.

    1. Because he disavows Islam, you dumbass.

      I grew up a Christian and think it is stupid bullshit now.

      1. Disavow is a fairly strong term. We do evil as well(Christians, U.S.) doesn’t seem much of a disavowal.

      2. Pay your bet fuckstain.

  37. Yeah, “linked to” is kind of harsh..how about “sympathetic to”?

  38. After Orlando, Donald Trump Hints That President Obama Might Be Linked to Radical Islam
    Trump is once again indulging in paranoid conspiracy theories about the president’s background.

    Trump the Grump running for president is testimony that mentally ill are just as capable for running for the executive office as the sane.
    Isn’t equality wonderful?

    1. Gump has some pretty fair accomplishments in the free market world – our president won 4 elections. Think about it. Like that idiot Bush, who won 2 elections – how’d they do it?

  39. Obama may or may not be a muslim ( I don’t even know why it’s such an outrage to suggest that he is ) but he sure as hell is a muslim sympathizer.

    1. Sympathies or not, he wants to keep importing them to the US as a very reliable voting bloc for big government.

  40. Trump is merely inelegant in bringing up a topic that should concern Americans who aren’t brainwashed leftists – his muddled approach to radical Islam. Namely, his inability to actually verbally identify if as the culprit of evil.

    Inside his sleek exterior, Obama is no different than a progressive hack writing for Salon. He sticks to the same lefty talking points and playbook on ANY issue. On radical Islam, he’ll adhere to the eternal notion that Islam is inherently peaceful, and that its GROSSLY unfair to single out Islam since their violent sect is no different any extreme wing of any ideology. In reality, a chunk of non radical Muslims behave like the left’s perception of people in the red south.

    In the mind of progressives, Muslims are a protected group, and default victims. When terrorism strikes, their FIRST concern is the upcoming wave of Islamophobia. They take a travel back in time to the days of Japanese internment and Jim Crow even while the victims are still warm. It is not possible for a progressive to accept that the “minority” of their choosing can oppress the majority, or that they can actually behave like the “right wingers” the left so often detest. You actually see some lefty trolls feebly insisting that ISIS is some right wing group.

  41. How anyone can listen to 7 years of Obama’s xenophobic dribble and not sense some fondness for Radical Islam is beyond me.

    Unless of course you happen to be an Obama worshiping Statist.

  42. Maybe not so far fetched after all: http://www.infowars.com/hillar…..rs-mosque/

  43. i’ve never understood the nonsense about arguing over what we call something (“radical Islamic terrorism”). it’s literally like a large group of people think that if you say it aloud loudly and often enough the war on terror will cease to exist. the ‘beetlejuice’ strategy doesn’t seem like a viable option to me honestly.

    1. I believe it has something to do with many of us being delusional in thinking words communicate ideas, and that ideas matter.

      1. yeah….that’s not it.

        i mean obviously what you call something should be factual, but the idea that there’s usually only one description that meets the standard, and that you can’t possibly be serious about an issue if you don’t label it the same as i do, just leads to having a political debate over names rather than strategy.

        1. If you refuse to call something what it is then how likely will an actual strategy be implemented that is effective?

  44. Trump says this, Obama says that, Clinton says that, etc …

    Where is Gary Johnson? Where is the voice of “reason”, the alternative?

    1. “Where is Gary Johnson?”

      you have to go to a libertarian website for that nonsense.

  45. Johnson is busy promoting state aggression. Stop bothering him.

  46. Consider two incontrovertible facts:

    first, Obama spent some years in Indonesia, where he attended a moslem school. Thus he DOES have training and background in islam. His father, a British Subject (Kenya was at the time of Obama Jr’s birth a British colony, did not gain independence from Britain until 1964… three years after junior was born. As Obama was (illegally, more below) campaigning for the presidency he helped a relative of his in Kenya with strong moslem ties and idealogy manipulate an election and gain a high political position.

    Now, YOU tell ME if all this taken together might possibly be indicator of some ties to islam and modern moslem idealogy. Maybe its YOU need to take off the blinkers…

    1. Second, his status as Natural Born Citizen only partially rides on his alledged birth in Hawaii. The requirements to have that status are three: born IN the United States; born of a US Citizen Mother; born of a US Citizen FATHER…. reread above. His pappy was a British Subject at the time of Obama Junior’s birth. Even if he WAS born in Hawaii (consierable evidence holds otherwise) he still lacks the third qualifier.
      There is considerable question whether the man is even a US Citizen… seems, in order to attend that moslem school in Indonesia, one MUST be a citizen of that nation. Since he attended, he had to have gotten Indonesian citizenship. To date, there is NO evidence he ever regained US Citizenship, and pretty solid evidence he attended university in the US on a foreign student grant or scholarship… which means he had to have NOT been a US Citizenship. It is will established his Social Security Number is not his…. it was originally issued to a man, now dead, in Connecticut, with a very different name.

      So, who ya gonna go with? The kinyun imposter, or Trump the bluster? Maybe Trump is more or less accurate?

      1. um…..it’s just one of those requirements to be a Natural Born Citizen. Not all three, you blithering dumass.

  47. Whoa! A candidate implied bad things about the incumbent opposition officeholder for the position he’s campaigning for? Gasp! I’m shocked! It’s almost like he wants to win! Republicans aren’t supposed to do that!

    1. Cucks believe in playing fair while taking a shiv in the back.

      Trump plays to win.

  48. Could The Donald be applying The Duck Test?

  49. Why not defend Obama’s pathetic record on dealing with terrorism by defending Obama and not by deriding Trump. Peter? Are you a secret Obama minion? Trump is not the only one to see how our post turtle POTUS is always hedging and shuffling around the edges of this issue.

  50. Trump says something totally obvious, and Suderman throws a pants shitting fit. As predictable as the sun rising tomorrow.

    Progressives have a political purpose in importing Muslims. They vote democratic even more reliably than Mexican Americans. 80+%.

    Duh. Political power is more important to Progressives than protecting American lives. Can’t make an omelet, etc.

    1. Yep. It’s totally just to get that valuable 0.8% of American voters.

      You’re a fool. No one in America cares about getting the Muslim vote. It’s statistically insignificant. We could take in EVERY single migrant from the migrant crisis and the Muslim vote would still be worth around 3%. It’s not /valuable/, in any sense.

      Obama’s language has nothing to do with courting Muslims. It’s about courting PC progressives. Unlike Muslims, THEY make up a significant voting block. Politicians do not care about the interests of Muslim voters, just like they don’t care about winning the Zoroastrain voters or the Baha’i voters or the Hindu voters. Those groups aren’t big enough for anyone to care. The language use is not about appealing to Muslims, it’s about appealing to the PC crowd.

  51. Trump says something totally obvious, and Suderman throws a pants shitting fit. As predictable as the sun rising tomorrow.

    Progressives have a political purpose in importing Muslims. They vote democratic even more reliably than Mexican Americans. 80+%.

    Duh. Political power is more important to Progressives than protecting American lives. Can’t make an omelet, etc.

  52. Ignorant fools
    grab their family jewels
    and scream at the top of their lungs.
    “Its not bad people.
    Its not extremists.
    Its the NRA and guns!”

  53. And I thought the worst thing that could happen when getting sprayed by some other dude at a gay club was catching AIDS. – insensitive joke of the day

  54. it’s good to have an open discussion though, even with people who a little nuts. after all, they’re people too.

    for instance, i just had someone just had someone seriously ask me, “WTF was wrong with me” for thinking it was ok to express an opinion in the comments section beneath an opinion piece. as we speak it’s being ‘liked’ by an increasing number of people. and they have the nerve to say civility is dying.

    1. add to this the nice person who said he would’ve liked my comment if it had contributed anything to the conversation. i mean, i did post something that directly contradicted the premise of the editorial we were all commenting on, but we had a conversation, and that’s what matters!

  55. Watching Obama and Hillary try to force Islamic Religious values down the throats of Americans is amusing.

    Watching the Collectivists at Reason defend it – Priceless!!

  56. This is a pretty unreasonable article for a blog called Reason.

  57. the Obama administration is flooding our country with refugees.. hes not checking them.. and the Orlando terrorists Father broadcasts on Radio and he supports the Taliban..

  58. This low low 80 iQ schmuck w0uld like….like to this opportunity to proclaim Herr Trump will beet the Evil Wtich of the East, or the South,…. or where ever that evil sandbagging cunt hails from this week, in a landslide.

  59. Trump is cynically, and deliberately manipulating the media to win an election! So far it is working like a charm. He is like Islam – it won’t stop until it IS stopped – AGAIN!
    Short of something more major than this Trump is going to demolish Hildebeast! You know he is going to ask her how she could possibly lie to the parents of Benghazi over their dead children’s caskets on live TV standing face to face. How is she going to answer to the satisfaction of the American voter? Say the parents lied – I don’t think so. Treating everyone in politics with no respect is exactly what they deserve.

  60. Trump has noticed that Obama is reluctant to mention radical Islam. The same as Obama refused to call the coup in Egypt a coup – which would have meant that Egypt stops getting American taxpayer money if America still obeys its laws.

    Yet Obama is keen to politicize massacres such as the Pulse club in Florida, repeating his nonsensical calls for yet more gun control while ignoring the fact that so many were killed precisely because of gun control.

    It all doesn’t make sense, or as Trump says, “he’s got something else in mind.” What on earth could it be?

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  62. Obama grew up with Muslims, of course he is not going to condemn all Muslims because of some extremists. But whatever you think about Obama’s attitude, it underlines that his worldview is not the same as that of most Americans, and that’s what Trump is using as part of his campaign: the air of alienness that surrounds Obama and his odd background. If his political opponents hadn’t been so incompetent in 2008 and capitalized on how unrepresentative Obama was, he probably wouldn’t have stood a chance. But I suppose he got elected in a fit of radical chic.

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  64. It was also the policy of the Bush administration to not use the phrase “Islamic Terrorism”.
    But I’m not surprised. Pushing conspiracy theories and slander/libel against Obama for continuing Bush-era policies has been a pretty common theme for the past eight years.

    I mean heck, everyone remembers that poll from Louisiana (2013, I think) where it turned out a third of LA Republicans blamed Obama for the fed’s response to Hurricane Katrina?

    So this is not surprising, shocking, or the least bit unusual. Just more of the same.

  65. I am no Trump supporter in any sense but I will say I ask myself the same things on why our President cannot use the words “Radical Islamist”. I ask the same thing when I see the left continue to attack inanimate objects like guns instead of the evil person/s involved in shootings like this. I know damn well the president is wholly informed on these situations and I wonder why he cannot call a spade a spade. I would venture about 40 million Americans wonder about the same damn thing.

    Trump is still an idiot, but this hedging you claim he is doing cannot be all that wrong…

  66. Do Hawaiian birth certificates list a baby’s religion?? If so… how do you tell??

  67. Trump is absolutely correct. Something is wrong with Obama’s reaction. He sounds more like a defense attorney for ISIS than he does a Commander-in-Chief.

    By the way, Obama sold books claiming was from Kenya in the 90’s. Obama was the original birther. Too bad Reason Magazine writers refuse to acknowledge this and inform their readers.

  68. President Obama might be connected [to]

    Improbable.

    or sympathetic to radical Muslim terrorists.

    Self-evident.

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