Libertarian Party

Meet the Libertarian Party's VP Candidates

A former Republican governor jousts with a wide and diverse range of Party stalwarts. Do the Libertarians want someone like them, or someone the outside world might be more apt to take seriously?

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Four candidates for the Libertarian Party's vice presidential nomination debated in front of hundreds of delegates last night at the Party's National Convention in Orlando. The four selected needed at least 49 delegates to cast a token ballot choosing them to appear in the debate, which ended up excluding antivirus magnate John McAfee's chosen running mate, Judd Weiss. Weiss tells me it was a momentary failure to whip his supporters into actually casting the token ballot, and still feels good about his chances.

Following are profiles based on phone interviews with three of the four on stage last night, plus Weiss. William Weld, the former governor of Massachusetts who is Gary Johnson's pick for vice president, was not made available for an interview with me by press time.

William Weld Facebook

The debate highlighted the difference between the three who are deeply enmeshed in the Party and the libertarian movement and its customary style, thinking, and lingo, willing to talk about eliminating all taxation, getting out of NATO and UN instantly, and the vital importance of the non-aggression principle. Weld was out of his depth in those terms; though the other candidate are equally out of their depth in terms of Weld's actual governing experience and grounding his statements in this year's political issues and realities.

From the sounds of the crowd, plenty of delegates are far happier about a candidate who speaks their concerns and hearts with passion and a customarily Libertarian Party style than they are concerned with serious political experience. Weld's inability to be a full-throated defender of gun rights (on CNN last week he made a distinction gun rights people don't like between weapons legitimate for hunting and other weapons that are not) is just one of his problems with many Party faithful seeking a "real Libertarian."

Weld sounded the most engaged in the actual campaign ahead of them, frequently mentioning or alluding to specific Trump policies he wants to run against. He offered a "10-20 percent reduction" in government spending, small beer in Libertarian terms, but proudly referred to how many government workers he got rid of in Massachusetts in the '90s when he was governor.

Perhaps in reaction to how often his opponent Will Coley (running mate to New Hampshire anarchist Darryl Perry) ended in shouts, Weld tried that out once, to somewhat flat effect, on the line "the revolution this year is the Libertarian Party!"

Later Weld offered that perhaps it isn't so important for the Party to hype that word, "libertarian," and should instead focus on how they differ from the Republicans and Democrats in ways he thinks a possible majority of other voters will agree with. He ended his closing remarks with references to adding to the "enjoyable tumultuous conclusion" to the election and fighting the "doldrums and miasma that grip the ruling parties."

Weld's competitors, who didn't know they'd be running against a former governor until a week or so ago, include:

• Larry Sharpe Larry Sharpe runs a company called "Neo-Sage" which, according to its web site, "provides executive coaching, management consulting and training for professionals in many industries." He spoke at last night's debate of how if Libertarians show voters their heart and soul, the voters will love them. He spoke of government as not a mother or father to Americans, but a caring brother.

Larry Sharpe Facebook

"Now is the biggest opportunity for the L.P. to get its message heard, this year is our shot," Sharpe said in a phone interview, "and I want to make sure we don't reinforce the old stereotypes, that we're all white men over 60. I am neither of those things and I'll make sure people understand that."

Sharpe is black and a veteran and he thinks "that doesn't necessarily mean people will vote for me but they will hear me better." This would be the wrong year to, as he puts it, sell out to "some other Party trying to fix their Trump problem by using us, then discarding us. I don't want temporary Libertarians, though I want them to come over, I really do. But to come over for the right reasons, to see this as a Party that actually does what it says. Our north star is the non-aggression principle: we don't want to force anyone to do anything, and that makes us special. No victim, no punishment."

He describes himself as a "zealous convert" to the Party though he was unconsciously libertarian since he was six years old. "I'm from poor neighborhoods and I saw black markets work, lots of people I knew were working in black markets, but I didn't see them as criminals."

Gary Johnson hooked him into the Party during his 2012 campaign, and he became an active member of the New York Libertarian Party. He's been working the phones and Facebook to contact dozens of delegates and feels good about his chances; he seemed to get a very positive reaction from the crowd at last night's debate. He slammed Weld when he said that "one Republican governor is enough." He wants to ensure, he told me, that "we don't have a non-Libertarian" on the ticket. It rubs him the wrong way that Weld has talked about the possibility of hitting up big money Republican friends but doesn't want to do so until Johnson/Weld seem to be taking off. "It's like he's indirectly saying, 'I've got some money here—do you want it?' It means there are strings attached."

Sharpe says he'd be proud to serve any of the likely winners, which he stretches to include radical anarchist Darryl Perry. (I've had a few people tell me Perry will get at least their first ballot vote, though they expect him to get knocked out quickly.) He hopes an actual state victory can be in play, and will "pack up and more to Vermont, Alaska, Nevada, Colorado, whatever" state he thinks the L.P. might win.

"I don't want to endorse outcomes, I want to encourage opportunity," Sharpe says, and regrets the punitive drug war system that harms so many young minorities. "America used to be the land of second chances, and we are losing that."

• Alicia Dearn Dearn is a lawyer who represents small businesses in St. Louis. She provided legal services regarding ballot access suits to the Gary Johnson campaign, which ended up being pro bono when she decided to let go of the debt from that in-the-hole 2012 campaign. She told a heart-wrenching tale of her own personal hardships and struggles, including problems with dilapidated housing and health problems that cost her her fertility, at the debate that seemed to entrance many in the crowd. The stories involved self-reliance and the government as hindrance, not help. She knows her libertarian tendencies were inside her early, she said in an interview, by how much she admired the freewheeling, self-owning character of the Tramp in Disney's Lady and the Tramp.

Alicia Dearn Facebook

She says women in the L.P. "recruited me to run to give voice to us" though she doesn't see herself as standing for traditionally "women's" issues. American woman voters are tired, she says, of being patronized with the assumption that those issues are all that matter to them. "I think this election is driven by economic issues, the reason so many people are flocking to candidates like Bernie and Trump is that they are in economic pain. I think the Libertarian answer [to economic growth] is the right answer."

Dearn grants women tend to have a distinct method of communication that's more "community oriented, compassion oriented, and the L.P. sometimes fails to present libertarianism to women in the way they are comfortable with, how they tend to communicate." She told an engaging anecdote both in her interview with me and at the debate about explaining libertarian positions to a hairdresser  by making her think of the injustice of licensing requirements that cost her money and time before she could ply her trade.

In her communication with delegates, she says the quality they want most from their candidates is the ability to "articulate libertarianism, I heard that quite a bit. We have the opportunity to get more eyeballs on us as a Party because of the nominees of the Democrats and Republicans." She says she would intend, if selected, to "provide as much support as possible to local candidates."

"I'm proud of the L.P.," she says, and "one reason is our slate of potential vice presidents is extremely diverse, representative, different frames of reference but we've all been very cordial to each other, collegial. Though there is some disruption now with Weld in the race. But I hope we can keep things calm and focus on issues so when the rest of the country is looking at us they think, 'these people seem nice. We can work with them.'"

• Will Coley  Coley is a Muslim convert who runs a group called Muslims for Liberty, which works at "advocating the libertarian message from an Islamic perspective; historical Islamic legal traditions advocate a libertarian message," Coley says. (Gary Johnson, according to a Council on American-Islamic Relations poll, drew about twice as much of the American Muslim vote in 2012 as of the overall vote, 2.2 percent.) He's the announced running mate for presidential candidate Darryl Perry of New Hampshire, the hardcore anarchist of the crowd who will almost certainly come in the top four on Sunday's election.

Will Coley Facebook

Coley's proud of the connections he's made with libertarian activists in Pakistan and Bangladesh, among other countries. "I've worked as a catalyst to create libertarian communities around the world," he says. Both in our interview and at last night's debate he stressed his experience with being on the wrong end of government in his efforts to get his foreign-born wife and mother of his children legal in the U.S. He had the greatest tendency to get shouty and emotional during the debate, referring to his willingness to die for his ideas, and that it's "hard not to think about arms against the government."

"I wanted to bring a human voice to the conversation, someone who can stand and say 'I know your way doesn't work and is wrong.' I've lived through the negative consequences of the current system."

He also has passion driven by "working with people [in the Muslim world overseas] willing to risk their life to spread the ideas of liberty….Dropping Hellfire missiles on people's children and razing villages does nothing but work as recruitment for [terrorist organizations]."

His feeling for libertarianism, he says, is "not philosophical, dry, rhetorical, I know what government does is bad, I've suffered from it, and I want to bring that human voice. Elections are not won by facts and logic; you have to find a way to reach the American people in the heart, and our ticket has always lacked someone who can stir the hearts of Americans, make crowds cry. That's what I want to bring."

Despite his very loud assaults on all taxation as theft and something to be halted immediately at last night's debate, he told me in our phone interview that he's a "rational radical voluntarist" who understands "you can't pull the plugs [on the state] tomorrow, other things have to be in place to work American people off of the federal money. You can't go repeal the Department of Education tomorrow. You've got to allow the states to keep the money they are now sending to the Feds slowly over four or five years."

He thinks the American people have been "waiting, asking to hear a specific Muslim voice that comes out as a principled advocate of freedom and can explain why I find these ideas grounded in my faith. Americans have been begging for it. I think it would be awesome if the Party that ran the first woman to get an Electoral College vote, the first Jew [Tonie Nathan], ran a gay candidate the first time around [John Hospers], it's only fitting that Party introduces the American public to that Muslim voice." (Coley was raised "a hybrid of Pentecostal and Southern Baptist" and as a "theology nerd" found his own way to Islam. When he was given a Ron Paul book by a friend "I happened to be studying Islamic economic theory and I noticed correlations, so it drew me from Islam into libertarianism.")

He's not thrilled with Weld's entry into the race; "it's a Bob Barr situation all over again, the desire to raise money and some magical validity; to still seek [Republicans'] validation seems to overpower our desire to be devoted to our principles."

• Judd Weiss  Weiss made his bones and an early fortune in commercial real estate in his 20s; he was a huge admirer of Nathaniel Branden (the Ayn Rand-influenced popular libertarian psychology writer who emphasized self-esteem), and became a surrogate son of sorts to him in Branden's last years. He's lately made it his avocation to glamorize the libertarian movement through arty photography of many movement conferences and events.

Judd Weiss Facebook

While a firm supporter of Gary Johnson in 2012, and with "total respect for him taking on a political suicide issue like legalizing marijuana" over a decade ago as governor of New Mexico, Weiss found Johnson's performance as L.P. candidate in 2012 ultimately disappointing and boring. He was excited to see "a total badass like John McAfee" enter the race.

After agreeing to host a fundraiser for McAfee in his Bel Air home (something he'd done twice for Johnson in 2012), Weiss was approached by McAfee's then-campaign manager Christopher Thrasher to consider bringing his movement knowledge and connections into McAfee's outsider campaign. Weiss agreed. He found they vibed well together. "We're both business entrepreneurs, both bold, it's almost as if, if McAfee is known as a maniac, if I work hard someday I can be half the maniac he is."

What's flowed from there has been organic, Weiss says; he didn't realize he'd spend most of his time making a series of videos trying to reimagine an artier and less "intellectual" means of, as Weiss says, allowing a viewer to feel something about freedom. Despite his photography experience, he'd never made a video before in his life. Weiss says he's been touched by McAfee's willingness to let him spread his wings in messaging for the ticket, and he does not think he could see fit to be a vice president for any other nominee.

He's also touched that McAfee, who himself has accusations of being complicit in the 2012 murder of a neighbor in Belize hanging over his head, trusted him even though Weiss also has what he insists is an example of justice perverted in his past: an arrest, trial (with hung jury) and eventual pleading out to lesser, non-sex-crime, charges on a rape accusation in 2012. As an L.A. Weekly story explained, Weiss "agreed to the [plea] deal [on charges of false imprisonment] only because the felony false imprisonment charge would ultimately go away, and because the sex crime charges would vanish. And, he said, he had exhausted his resources paying attorneys' fees."

"John has been very supportive," Weiss says, even though to many "being falsely accused of a crime like rape is a scarlet letter. I now know from the inside out how dysfunctional and corrupt and broken our justice system is."

And if their ticket does win, he promises they will "go bolder" in messaging in non-traditional ways. "I do agree with the so-called moderates that we need to focus on being effective," Weiss says. "But making what we have bland, not giving America an option to be excited about, is a terrible sales tactic. Liberty is: don't hurt people, enjoy your life. It's very simple. I can't be myself when I'm restricted. None of us can. We need to remove our chains as a society to thrive and move forward and do amazing things."

NEXT: John McAfee's Dark Afternoon of the Soul at the Libertarian National Convention

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  1. They’re obviously not true libertarians.They go out and do icky things like political fundraising. That’s a big no-no.

    What is obvious is that we should all follow the shoe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk

    1. Weld is not a libertarian. Social Justice Warrior is more like it. His nomination would be like a middle finger to conservatives and libertarians who care about free speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of association. If Weld had his way, the Supreme Court would be comprised of anti-free-speech zealots who support campus and workplace speech codes and hate speech bans.

      Weld ran to the Left of his 1990 Democratic rival for governor on political correctness issues, and his appointees to the state judiciary included people who had supported draconian campus speech codes. Weld’s appointees to the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination effectively imposed workplace speech codes far harsher than the vague “hostile environment” standard that applies in federal workplace harassment cases. They demanded that people be fired by private employers for offensive racial jokes in MCRA cases.

      Weld supported new regulations and red tape, like the voter-rejected Big Green initiative that even his 1990 Democratic opponent, John Silber, found too extreme. Weld is also an avid supporter of racial preferences and government affirmative-action mandates.

      In this respect, he echoes Gary Johnson at his worst. The New Mexico Supreme Court, including Gary Johnson appointees, punished a wedding photographer for declining to photograph a gay commitment ceremony under the ludicrous fiction that a wedding photographer with no fixed place of business is a public accommodation.

      1. I’m not going to defend Weld as libertarian because he’s not. He’s a typical New England Republican. Maybe he does have some fatal flaw or hostility to libertarian ideas that can’t possibly do anything but undermine big-L Libertarianism IDK.

        But to imply that John Silber (1990 opponent) was somehow more libertarian on campus speech or political correctness issues is insane. Silber was stylistically and policy-wise the Trump of that election. Of course Weld ran ‘to the left’ of him. The reason he won was because Dems voted for him rather than let their party get hijacked.

        The reality is that that 1990 campaign experience is actually a POSITIVE for Weld as a VP candidate. He knows how to run to the right of Dems on policy and to the tolerant side of a candidate who knows how to stoke intolerance. Not a huge leap to just get him to tack anti-crony (though that could the fatal flaw) re both the Dem/Rep.

        I’m more impressed by the LP VP slate than by the Prez slate.

        1. I’m more impressed by the LP VP slate than by the Prez slate.

          same here.

        2. I always found funny how much David Brudnoy admired John Silber, but chalked it up to academic-to-academic respect. The love eggheads have for each other transcends ideology.

        3. Silber criticized campus speech codes, and defended free speech. Weld didn’t. Silber had Boston University file amicus briefs in cases trying to put a limit on speech-based civil-rights liability — very rare among universities, which are too craven even to criticize demands for censorship by federal civil rights bureaucrats at places like the University of Montana.

          Silber was not Trump. He was a university president, and a true intellect.

          1. Silber WAS proto-Trump. He was a dictator at the one university he controlled – including shutting down every student newspaper critical of him (settled out of court in a 1st amendment case). He was also an intellectual (unlike Trump) and talented at running an education system – which is one reason Weld later appointed him to head the Dept of Education in MA (though he probably also wanted him to be a thorn in Dem sides). So much for the ‘they totally differ on education stuff’.

            Silber was an interesting character who didn’t fit into any typical political molds – but so is Trump. Here’s a (positive IMO – since anyone who annoys a tenured Howard Zinn is doing something right) 60 minutes segment on Silber from 1980

            http://www.cbsnews.com/news/19…..0-minutes/

    2. I thought all libertarian candidates have to fund their entire campaign with monocle mine profits? What the fuck is this convention? These are anarchists and closet rethuglicans, not libertarians!

  2. Over an hour and only one comment? I can’t believe people have better things to do on a labor day weekend than surf the Net.

    1. Is it September already?! Where did the summer go?

      1. And I never got a chance to wear my white sun dress.

        1. White guys look bad in sun dresses… wtf? Are you trying to use the ladies room again?

          1. He identifies as a lady with pretty tanned legs, gosh.

      2. You know what he meant.

        As long as nobody is looking, I think Jesus Christ Superstar is a great modern retelling of the Life of Jesus.

      3. Oh crap. When you’re retired you lose track of these things.

    2. I just got up and got some caffeine in me. Patience, weedhopper!

  3. *Swipes left*

  4. I need some kid movies for my 7 year old daughter. Watched Arthur (?) last night and it was the worst kid’s movie I’ve ever seen. No more princess movies because my wife smacked me during Frozen for screaming “Slaver!” every other scene.

    1. Dudley Moore is a poor role model.

      1. I’m nuts over Dudley Moore.
        *Holds hand at waist level*

    2. I only let my nieces and nephew watch cartoons I like. Hence my 13yr old niece has seen every episode of G1 Transformers, Voltron and ThunderCats. So, I would say pick a movie you liked as kid.

      1. You really can’t go wrong with Looney Tunes. Stereotypes, Not Okay slang, racism, gratuitous violence, it really should be required viewing.

        1. Looney Tunes for ever!

          Also Dumb and Dumber.

    3. The older Disney movies – not the animated or musicals but like the ones they showed Sunday nights on The Wonderful World of Disney – are a good source for clean fun family movies. Swiss Family Robinson, The Gnome-Mobile, The Apple Dumpling Gang, Bedknobs and Broomsticks, Escape to Witch Mountain, Treasure Island, any of the Fred McMurray movies (maybe, I never cared for those), tons of old movies in the made-for-TV style but high-quality big-budget movies. They’re slower-paced and more talky and rarely feature CGI explosions and improbable high-speed car chases so kids these days may not have the attention span to enjoy them as much, but maybe you can teach her to sit still for five minutes and pay attention.

    4. Megamind was a family favorite. That was the first time the kids asked to watch a movie every day and I didn’t particularly mind.

      The Lego Movie was awesome, and you must watch it if you haven’t already.

      Branching out, the Mrs Piggle-Wiggle books are the right age range; and for TV I can recommend Teen Titans Go and Phineas and Ferb. Magic School Bus, anything by the Kratt brothers.

      Going old school, try interneting old seasons of Duck Tales and Gummi Bears. My kids love them.

      1. Thanks People.

      2. seconding The Lego Movie

        Shaun the Sheep Movie
        Inside Out

    5. Studio Ghibli / Miyazaki stuff. My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away.

      The Iron Giant.

      Monty Python and the Holy Grail

      1. Monty Python might be a little adult-themed for a 7 year old, but agree with Studio Ghibli

        1. Although I tried to watch Spirited Away with my 12-years-younger sister when I was 18 or 19 and it was kind of scary for her. It depends on the kid.

        2. I’m not totally serious about that recommendation, but I watched it at 9 or 10. The sex stuff totally passed me by, and the scene could easily be skipped. But coconuts, a “witch” with a plastic nose, silly voices and accents, a Frenchman making fart sounds, Ni!, Lancelot running to the castle, Tim, the rabbit, “ARGH!”, all of that stuff is hilarious for kids.

          Guess there is a lot of blood, so if that is too much for her, it is right out.

      2. Think I’ve seen every Miyazaki movie. The Crimson Pig (Don’t know what it’s title is in English) is my favorite.

    6. The Lego movie and Wreck-it Ralph were kind of fun.

      1. My Neighbor Totoro is kind of an odd one but my daughters really liked it at that age.

    7. The Incredibles and . . . The Incredibles.

      CA: Civil War is pretty awesome – unless you’re going to argue that gender is innate and so she won’t like it because she’s a *girl*;)

      Megamind.

      Up.

    8. The Yogi Bear movie with Dan Akroyd

      1. OOH! – Bad News Bears with Walther Mathau!

        1. ^ Classic ^

          Avoid at all costs the sequel.

          1. Cartoons? Classic? The 1940s Fleisher Superman shorts.

            You can dole out 1 short before 17 feature attractions.

            The original Jonny Quest shows are great, too.

            Kevin R

  5. There is an old old argument within the LP about whether it wants to be a political party, or a conclave of the faithful.

    Until it becomes a political party, willing to welcome those with differences on some issues even if those differences are just of degree, the LP will remain an ineffective sideshow.

    If they fail to choose two experienced and willing campaigners like Johnson and Weld, they will have chosen the wrong side of the argument, again, and remain a footnote in the appendix of U.S. political history.

    1. The problem is the LP is a political party dedicated to the proposition that politics is generally a bad thing. The less important political parties and government in general are, the better. You’re a political party trying to get everybody to listen to you and pay attention to your message that people shouldn’t listen to political parties nor pay attention to their message.

      1. If you want to do that, the worst way to do it is as a political party. Be a Jon Stewart or an HL Mencken or a Howard Stern or a Rush Limbaugh or somesuch instead.

        Maybe the LP is itself nothing more than a product of the late-1960’s – when ‘political party’ did become a temporary model for political theater. But the LP has IMO done way too much heavy lifting on ballot access to simply keep pissing it away because many of the more vocal members are into ‘look at me’ self-indulgence.

    2. Why not try to recruit Jeb Bush and Mike Bloomberg to be the Libertarian candidates if political experience is all that matters?

      1. This is the type of argument that I used to hear all the time in Libertarian Party meetings, and it shows an absolute inability or unwillingness to use the human skill commonly called “judgement”.

        1. That doesn’t even make sense.

          1. It shows and inability to deal with any situation that is fuzzy or with weighing values.

            There are too many LP members who think all human interaction can be reduced to a set of rigid logical rules derived deductively from the non-aggression principle, which is a point of view completely incapable of supporiltng practical activity in the messy real world.

            1. There is a let’s say Huuuuuge gap between expecting a prospective Libertarian political nominee to pass a Libertarian “purity” test (which I do not) and expecting them to be Libertarian (which I do not see in Weld at all). The original comment was that we must choose Johnson and Weld BECAUSE they are the most experience campaigners. That seems the me like saying (and you seemed to reiterate) that the Libertarian Party should want political power SOLELY for the purpose of having political power and that Libertarian ideals do not matter. That in effect would make the Libertarian Party indistinguishable from the GOP and DNC. I will vote for the Libertarian nominee in November as I did in 2012.

  6. FYI, CSPAN is broadcasting tonight’s LP debate at 8.

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?4…..ial-debate

    1. Thanks!

  7. Aha! Busted again, glibertrarians! An entire convention and not one woman or a single person of color! Can I join this white boys club? Of course, I’m part of that patrirachy!

  8. Weld is a fucking Council of Foreign Relations member.

    1. Isn’t that a good thing? It shows he’s in w the movers & shakers, which it’s advantageous to be.

  9. Weld endorsed Obama?
    Why would Weld claim Libertarian principles and then endorse an Authoritarian / Collectivist?
    Methinks Weld is a Socialist.

  10. He offered a “10-20 percent reduction” in government spending, small beer in Libertarian terms,

    I don’t know – that’s small beer compared to what most of us want (say 50%+ reduction throughout most sectors of government) but its pretty huge compared to what the major party candidates have been pushing for the last few decades (10-20% reduction *in the rate of increase of the size of government*).

    BUT . . . its easy to *say* you want to shrink government (though he does have a track record at the state level) and good that he’s realistic (we ain’t slashing *anything* by so much as 25% in one go), I don’t see this as much more than rhetoric. The President has no control over the purse and far less control over the size and makeup of EB agencies than people imagine. He doesn’t get to control the size of the DoJ’s budget so telling them that they have to cut 10% of their people while still getting the same amount of money isn’t going to make a huge impact on the professional civil servant classes.

    1. When Johnson and Weld start putting forth names from the abso-freaking-lutely humungous list of political appointees that they will have to stuff the upper tiers of these agencies with (people completely onboard with this vision and that have the experience, ruthlessness, and dedication to fight it out against their subordinates) *then* I’ll consider ‘shrink government’ to be something other than ‘I have to say that or the punters won’t vote for me’ rhetoric.

    2. No control of the purse? Ever hear of the veto? Sending a bill back with objections noted? Know that military appropriations can’t be for more than 2 yrs. at a time?

      1. Know that no president has ever had the balls to use the veto power unsparingly. Weld wouldn’t support Johnson doing so either.

        Doesn’t matter if military appropriations are only for two years at a time when we have the contingency operating fund to slush money around.

    3. I think Johnson’s use of the veto while Gov is more than just rhetoric. That’s the biggest question I see with Weld. Willingness to veto – often if not always – is more important than some let’s-make-a-deal number. Especially since it may also require ‘faithfully executing’ something that’s been vetoed and that you might want to undermine via exec order.

      It gets right to the heart of the proper role of the executive. And restoring that is IMO more important even than LP principles (since in theory those can be imposed by an imperial dictator).

  11. She says women in the L.P. “recruited me to run to give voice to us” though she doesn’t see herself as standing for traditionally “women’s” issues.

    American woman voters are tired, she says, of being patronized with the assumption that those issues are all that matter to them.

    And then she patronizes them by assuming that they picked a woman to represent them because those issues are all that matter to them? That women in the LP have interests outside of ‘traditional women’s issues’ – but they won’t accept representation by someone with a penis?

  12. He spoke of government as not a mother or father to Americans, but a caring brother.

    Another dude who doesn’t get it. What is it with black dudes and ‘government as family’?

    My completely statistically significant results from a sample of two.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuRICh4IcU

  13. . . . historical Islamic legal traditions advocate a libertarian message,

    Funnily enough – so do the legal traditions of, literally, *tons* of ancient cultures. When you didn’t have the technology to support a massively centralized nation-state you naturally devolve decision-making to the lower levels.

    Oh – and that whole ‘no interest’ thing? Very unlibertarian.

  14. “He had the greatest tendency to get shouty and emotional during the debate, referring to his willingness to die for his ideas, and that it’s “hard not to think about arms against the government.”

    Yeah, okay.

    I don’t think it’s a wise move to connect being Muslim and ‘willing to die for his ideas’. You know, well, you know.

    As for the others, you’re technically off to a bad start when you have charges of murder and rape against you. If the goal is to get votes and embraced by the wider voter audience, those two guys aren’t exactly the candidates to get it done I reckon.

    If I’m a borderline voter and I see these three (regardless of their positions and if they’re right or wrong. Just from a strictly perception angle), I’m getting cold feet.

    1. Hey now, only *one* is has murder allegations hanging over his head and the other one is a *convicted kidnapper*, not a rapist.

      1. Yeah well, the reality is libertarian candidates have the be top notch if they’re gonna take a run at the mainstay parties.

        Also, no wonder we often see Ayn Rand be conflated with libertarianism by those outside the flock. I understand the LP tent is more likely to house Objectivists and Anarchists, but to me anyway, each are different entities.

  15. Pakistans Libertarian Moment

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/…..index.html

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  17. Alicia Dearn liked Tramp. I liked Bluto. What’s that say about me?

    1. My Popeye doll existed for me to punch. Come to think of it, so did Wolfie…but he bites!

      1. That’s . . . not as abstract as I would have preferred.

  18. Sad that many libertarians no longer defend liberty — or perhaps understand it.

    Core principle: No fundamental rights are absolute, Including gun rights. Unalienable means precisely equal to each other (look it up). None can be absolute, because they can conflict with each other, …called competing rights … which can only be resolved by the Judiciary … because only legislators can create (or violate) a conflict…. as the Founders intended ( 9th Amendment)

    Best example is abortion, where both sides reject equal and unalienable rights. Full rights at conception rejects the woman’s right to Liberty. Banning abortions to the moment of birth rejects the fetal child’s right to Life. Thus neither is defending rights. Boith want to impose their preference by force of law. Thus both violate NAP (mostly for us) and Natural Law (the western world)

    Likewise gun rights are not absolute. Unless one believes that gun rights are superior to the rights of Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness and all the others. So spare any bullshit about slippery slopes by politicians fomenting hysteria which, of course, they’ve been saving us from, since the dawn of elected governments.

    I don’t know what Weld did regarding the second amendment and it almost doesn’t matter since “extreme” gun rights are as invalid, just as extreme pro-life and pro-choice premises.

    1. Incoherent nonsense. Lord knows what influences you claim for your irrational “libertarianism.”

      1. Incoherent nonsense

        Prove me right. (lol)

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  20. I had to find out from a McAfee interview that Weld worked for the DEA. That would explain his trouble with the Second Amendment, but not why mention of this r?sum? item is omitted here.

    1. Umnmm, that’s a lie. He ran the Justice Department. Some people are more easily manipulated than others.
      Do you know what slander means?

      twhy mention of this r?sum? item is omitted here.

      It’s hidden, along with Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate and proof that the moon landing was staged, all in a locked vault in Roswell, New Mexico. With those pesky space aliens. I can’y say more right now. My life may already be in danger,
      shhhh

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