Sen. Rand Paul Hoping the Prospect of President Trump Might Push Congress to Reclaim War Powers
Plans to propose requirement for new military authorization to fight ISIS.


Remember back during the debates when we saw actual discussions of what American foreign policy might look like and how American military might approach the threat of terrorism originating from the Middle East? It seems like a lifetime ago, now that our current political discussion is revolving around which presumptive candidate is more corrupt and reprehensible to the American electorate.
Former Republican presidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is back in Time magazine today to remind us of that debate. The background is the fact that President Barack Obama, who ran for office promising to end our wars, will leave office having been at war during his entire presidency, longer than any other president in U.S. history.
The wars have been facilitated by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) that was put into place to fight al Qaeda following Sept. 11. The purpose of the AUMF has been significantly distorted to cover the current fight against the Islamic State and deadly drone strikes in countries like Pakistan and Yemen. Paul, whose less interventionist foreign policy proposals as a presidential candidate included passing a new, more specific AUMF to cover the fight against ISIS, writes in Time that he plans to introduce an amendment to the upcoming defense appropriations bill. His goal is to force the president to return to Congress to seek a new AUMF:
My amendment will state that it is the sense of the Senate that the 2001 9/11 AUMF and the 2002 Iraq war AUMF do not apply to today's war in Iraq and Syria and that if war is to continue there must be a new declaration of war by Congress.
One generation cannot bind another generation to perpetual war. Our Constitution mandates that war be authorized by Congress. Period.
My colleagues who have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution should support my amendment or at least have the decency to debate it.
Think about it for a moment. These original authorizations were passed back when some of the men and women fighting in our current conflicts were still small children. No president—including this president—deserves this kind of extra-constitutional power.
Obama has called for a new AUMF, but nevertheless insists that his current war-making is fully legal. Hillary Clinton has taken the same position. Trump tends to be tough to pin down on actual foreign policy plans (a deliberate choice), but while he has spoken about being less of an interventionist than other Republican candidates (and arguably Clinton as well), he has also made it clear that he has little interest in restraints on the power of the president and has promised to "bomb the shit" out of ISIS. Last night on The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News, Trump said he was willing to go to Congress to declare war, but the conversation left me at least with the impression he didn't feel he would be at all restrained by whether he did so or not. (Read the transcript here and decide for yourself.)
Paul notes in his Time op-ed, "The Founders were very careful not to vest something as important as the decision to go to war to the whims of one person." Conor Friedersdorf has a very similar warning over at The Atlantic. He takes note that many people are worried that Trump could bring a new brand of fascism to the White House, but few seem to have considered that Trump wouldn't be so potentially dangerous if the power of the executive branch hadn't become so unrestrained:
While writing or sharing articles that compare Trump to Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco, few if any have called on Obama or Congress to act now "to tyrant-proof the White House." However much they fear Trump, however rhetorically maximalist they are in warning against his elevation, even the prospect of him controlling the entire apparatus of the national security state is not enough to cause them to rethink their reckless embrace of what Gene Healy calls The Cult of the Presidency, a centrist religion that persisted across the Bush administration's torture chambers and the Obama administration's unlawful War in Libya.
With a reality-TV bully is on the doorstep of the White House, still they hesitate to urge reform to a branch of government they've long regarded as more than co-equal.
Read more here.
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God bless you, Mr. Paul, and good luck. But remember, the Congress you're depending on was elected by people who don't want DNA in their food.
*jacks off onto Libertarian's pizza*
As long as you label it, the people don't mind.
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Thanks, you three....I needed a bit of a laugh today.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
I'm trying to imagine what deity you have a shrine to in your basement, and can only imagine supplicating it on behalf of Swiss is a bad idea.
Alf is not an official deity.
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Dickshark?
Finally, someone who understands.
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Excellent idea, but of course the prospect of President Hillary should be an even bigger motivator for this, given that we know for a fact that she's a bloodthirsty warmongering psychopath, and is probably more likely to get us involved in even more wars than Trump is.
Should be a bigger motivator for common people at least. The career politicians like her just fine.
"Excellent idea, but of course the prospect of President Hillary should be an even bigger motivator for this, given that we know for a fact that she's a bloodthirsty warmongering psychopath, and is probably more likely to get us involved in even more wars than Trump is."
Glad I read before posting; EXACTLY this!
Someone is worried about Trump when that hag is on the loose?
Not only that, but I'm afraid Congress would want more war than Trump does.
Sorry, but I've seen this play out before. Instead of causing people to reflect on whether the President should have so much power, people just want The Right Sort of Person to have such power. When Thulsa Doom takes over, I'm just hoping to get a good spot at the orgy and not wind up in the stew pot.
+1 Secret of Steel
"The Founders were very careful not to vest something as important as the decision to go to war to the whims of one person."
That's why the Constitutional Scholars are very careful to call it "kinetic military action".
Hell, the "use of military force" outside of a war-war is also unconstitutional. The Constitution only authorizes "war", not all the other flavors of killing people and blowing shit up.
Letters of marque?
Reprisal!
Repel invasion?
Maybe only by using an AC induction coil.
Yeezus 2020!
And leave us defenseless.
Thank Rand!
Finally, a meaty Trump post.
Ew.
There's always the meaty abortion thread next door.
And can we please require it be called a "Declaration of War" instead of trying to disguise it to avoid responsibility?
It's a nit...but fuck these pussies in Congress. They want to send troops into battle, they can put their fucking names on a declaration.
The prospect of President Hillary even more so.
Why do you think the neocons want Hillary over Trump? She's the warmonger! Look at Libya!
By the way, this entire description, both by the media and the administration is 100% bullshit. Obama did NOT announce that public schools have to provide transgendered students access to the bathroom of their choice, he declared all public school bathrooms unisex. Full stop.
I would really appreciate it if it would start being characterized correctly.
Oops, wrong thread.
That and about a hundred other things OBarnum pencil whipped are gonna go into the round file.
Bet on it.
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