Bill Weld

William Weld For Libertarian Vice President Winning Respectful Attention

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The announcement of William Weld as Gary Johnson's choice for his running mate in his run for the presidential candidacy of the Libertarian Party (the Party's delegates will be making their choice at their convention over Memorial Day weekend in Orlando) got the Washington Post to imagine the possibilities of the L.P. actually pushing the election into the House of Representatives.

The Weld pick is already paying off in other respectful media attention.

Weld/Mintz Levin law firm website

• Former L.P. supporter Jim Sullivan writes in the Boston Herald from the state Weld governed in the 1990s that this is an opportunity so great it would take a Party as often wrong-way as the L.P. to blow it, and he looks forward to:

watching so many Republicans tripping over themselves in a rush to discredit two of their most popular multi-term ex-governors. New Mexico had 20 of 24 previous years under Democratic rule prior to Johnson's two terms, voted for Obama in 2012, and also seats a large majority of Democrats in its state legislature. The credentials of Massachusetts as a Democratic bastion are unimpeachable. So both Johnson and Weld won in primarily blue states initially and were re-elected solidly. I can't wait to hear the whirling dervish sort of spin some Republicans will use in an attempt to make their accomplishments sound like a bad thing.

The Christian Science Monitor wonders, under the headline "Could a Libertarian Party bid Derail Trump or Clinton?":

 if many of Senator Sanders's supporters don't support Clinton – and if some Republicans such as Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska turn from Trump –   the Libertarians could have a wider opening than previously thought. The potential Libertarian duo both have political histories including time served as state governors, and could feed off of the energy of Sanders and Trump, who rose to the top of their parties' races despite their outsider statuses.

• The notorious political operative and dirty trickster Roger Stone, who linked up with the L.P. in 2012 and has lately been on the Trump train, says Johnson and Weld are personal friends, great candidates, and should be in the debates.

• David Boaz of the Cato Institute gets in the Daily Beast to call a Johnson/Weld ticket "An opportunity to pick a positive good, not just the lesser of two evils." Boaz writes that:

they will present a clear alternative to Trump and Clinton: strong and coherent fiscal conservatism, social liberalism, drug-policy reform, criminal-justice reform, reining in mass surveillance, ending executive abuse of power, and a prudent foreign policy that is neither promiscuously interventionist nor erratic and bombastic — all grounded in a philosophical commitment to liberty and limited government.

• The Boston Globe reported on how Weld apparently kept his decision very secret until its public relevation, and how it highlights chaos in the GOP's status in Massachusetts:

The state's popular Republican governor, Baker, has said he would vote in November for neither Trump nor Clinton.

The state's last Republican to serve in Congress, former US senator Scott Brown, has backed Trump, as has its longtime national committeeman, Ron Kaufman. The party's chairwoman, Kirsten Hughes, has said she would back the party's nominee, but has not explicitly endorsed Trump.

And the party's last GOP governor, 2012 presidential nominee Mitt Romney, has actively worked against Trump and warned of a disastrous presidency if he is elected — as has former acting governor Jane Swift.

• A Wall Street Journal headline says the Weld idea is "boosting Libertarians."

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109 responses to “William Weld For Libertarian Vice President Winning Respectful Attention

  1. More importantly: Is Weld a Koch plant?

      1. Yeah, the Koch brothers are much more libertarian than Weld.

        That’s said, I still vote for Johnson/Weld any day over Clinton or Trump.

    1. Yep, Weld is a Kochpuppet. Brian is not gonna bite the hand that feeds him.

  2. I remember Weld as governor of Massachusetts … describing him as libertarian NEVER entered my mind.

    1. As recent tickets have featured Bob Barr and Wayne Allyn Root, I don’t think not actually being a libertarian is much of a hurdle for running for office under the LP banner.

      1. Indeed Chip, most of the L.P. delegates seemed to have forgotten their Purity Test Kits at home before venturing to past conventions.

        1. You say that like purity tests are a bad thing.

      2. What’s unlibertarian about Wayne Root for America?

        1. He’s endorsed Trump.

    2. Someone remembers him! This is the first I’m learning of him :/

  3. Two squishy former Rs turned allegedly libertarian – meh.

    Johnson is OK – compared to the horrendous choices of unabashed Rs and Ds running.

    1. Weld’s apparently a drunk, which could maybe complement with Gary being a stoner:

      Between us, ran into Michael and Kitty Dukakis on a plane a few years ago. William Weld came up and they both shook their heads. Michael said it was a shame Weld couldn’t get his drinking under control, that it ruined his career.

      As of less than a year ago, Weld said he was still drinking, albeit wine and not the hard stuff. If anyone pays attention to Johnson/Weld, I wonder if Weld’s infamous drinking will come up, or if it will rear its ugly head during the campaign.

      1. Being a drunk is a plus for a Massachusetts politician, usually, which fails to explain Mitt Romney.

        1. which fails to explain Mitt Romney.

          He’s typological to what normal pols there would start fraying into without alcoholism to keep the MA neurosis at bay.

      2. C’mon, don’t make me like him.

      3. Do you have more damaging material, mfckr? Michael Dukakis’ opinion from a few years ago and the two articles were not very impressive to me.

        From the second reference in the article for which you provided a link: “‘I don’t think Bill made an effort to conceal the boozing,’ Byrnes [Weld’s former speechwriter when Weld was governor] told the Boston Herald.”

        ‘It was a fun atmosphere . . . There’s no question it was a heavy-drinking administration.’

        Byrnes told The Post that Weld always held his liquor well, saying he was an ‘efficient social drinker’ who, after a night of partying, ‘was always sharp as a tack the next day.”

        The first link in the article you use as a source links to “Weld touts app for recovering alcoholics”, which gives the impression that Weld was a heavy drinker in the past, and is “supportive of a smartphone app that connects recovering alcoholics”.

        1. You do realize I’m only fucking around, right?

          1. Ack!

            I didn’t. Solder on.

            1. S’all good. Sarcasm’s difficult to detect on here unless it’s really overt.

      4. Weld has a drinking problem?

        Finally, someone gives me a reason to believe Weld’s a human being, much less gives me a reason to vote Johnson/Weld.

        1. Great!

          Lets mark you down as an “OK with Diminished Capacity” voter!

  4. Blah, blah, blah. If recent polls are anywhere near accurate, the November race is going to be so close that – ONCE AGAIN – we’ll be told that it’s too close to throw away our votes on a Libertarian ticket. “The future of the country depends on [insert name here, as long it has an R or D after it] winning the Presidency!”

    If I’m totally wrong and the Libertarians get double the votes of any previous election, then we’ll see what, 2% at the bottom of the front pages on Wednesday morning?

    1. And whichever side loses will blame the libertarians for “splitting the vote.”

    2. We’re gonna ride this train to 1.5%, baby!

    3. If the LP candidate can get into the debates, they will get at least 10%.

      1. In this environment, I agree with you.

      2. Good point — getting into the debates would be fantastic, not only for 2016 but beyond. This should be the number one goal of the campaign, regardless of the nominee. But I’d be shocked at anything more than 3%, even so.

    4. I don’t think this argument will work as well when voters are asked to choose between Lucifer and Leviathan.

    5. Makes you feel better the D’s for Hillary are telling the D’s for Sanders how they are screwing America and need to stop being childish.

      Nothing convicted people to follow your line of though like making fun of them on the Internet …

      Except wood chippers (to be clear I am not advocating wood chippers to be used on humans, animals, plant matter, fecal matter, or anything that could be considered to be triggering)

    6. Less than 2% of the vote added the communist income tax and the teetotalitarian prohibition amendments to the Federal Constitution. Milton Friedman subtly pointed this out in Free to Choose. In fact, NO major changes have EVER occurred in US politics except in response to small party spoiler votes.

      The paradigm shift, where the small party does NOT want men with guns to coerce, beat, rob and murder citizens, is giving the looters a bit of cognitive dissonance shock. All they have to do is drop their guns, baby, and reach for the sky.

  5. I think that it is interesting that so much attention is being given by these types of media outlets to the possible Johnson-Weld L.P. ticket.

    1. It’s obvious there’s way more money & influence behind this arrangement than is typical for an LP ticket.

      1. That is not at all obvious and if I had to guess I would say they are operating on a much smaller budget than last time.

        1. Oh okay, glad that’s settled.

      2. I’d say it is MUCH more likely that political journalists, analysts, and Bloggers are so repulsed by the prospect of a Trump v Hillary campaign that even they are casting about for alternatives and Johnson/Weld are by far the biggest names in any 3rd party.

        I highly doubt Johnson is paying for ANY of this publicity

    2. Not me. Bookies are betting 3 to 1 the Dems win. Bookies’ math and money beat presstitute polls every time. Now a pro-choice politician who doesn’t hate queers and hippies and isn’t a bomb-throwing commie anarchist joins Nolan’s LP to back Gary, cannibal saliva and all. Remember Tricky Dick’s wage and price controls? Conscription? My lai massacre? Operation Intercept? More Republicans are finally realizing that their party’s 1928 adoption of ku-klux prohibitionism against Whiskey Al Smith caused the Herb Hoover Depression, made FDR president-for-life and wrecked the economy again in 2007–and with it their investments and chances of ever being elected dog-zoner. Massachussetts is one of those anti-libertarian states with prohibitionists and warriors for the babies keeping us off the ballot.
      Nothing on Jesse, but I like this candidate better than the others so far suggested.

  6. “Respectful media attention”

    The critical component of John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Bob Dole’s enormously successful runs for President, of course

    1. Trouser,

      notice that I used ” these types of media outlets” in my comment, even though I recognize that many find the ones Brian mentioned quite respectable.

      Of course, I’m a snarky commentator with few real repercussions likely to follow whatever I write.

    2. Ugh, it would be terrible if the LP started pulling McCain numbers. Awful.

      1. That’s not his point.

        His point is that media outlets always do this: they lavish praise on liberal Republicans, but then eviscerate them if they present a threat to the Democrat. Would you want to wager on who the Boston Globe endorses in the general?

        1. I was thinking about this the other day.

          This is one instance that the liberal media could help libertarians. They would absolutely LOVE a situation that split the Republican vote, hence getting Clinton elected.

          I could see a scenario where the media gives a shit-ton of coverage to that end.

        2. Don’t think that’s his point, either.

          No paper is going to endorse the LP candidate (well, maybe the Orange County Register). That the Globe is talking about the LP and keeping their names in the news is what’s important.

  7. Johnson Weld. It sounds like something you’d glue your dick back on with.

    1. I had a dream the other day that my dick fell off. But I was able to reattach it. And I didn’t need no Johnson Weld.

      1. Even though sometimes it’s a pain in the ass, I like having a detachable penis.

        1. Warning: The video is not safe for viewing at work.

          Apologies.

  8. but what does Salon think?

    1. About libertarianism in general? Hitlers all the way down.

    2. The proggie world view is that if you do not vote for a D, you are mentally ill. Libertarians get more scorn than Rs do for them, usually.

    3. More importantly, how self-loathing do you have to be to read Salon? Monkeys throwing poop are more respected than the editors of Salon.

  9. Are you comfortable making a prediction, Brian? Do you think most LP delegates will ignore Weld? Nominate Johnson but not his VP choice? Turn against Johnson for suggesting it?

    1. I spent longer typing mine…your’s doesn’t count.

  10. I predict the convention will take this as an affront and choose Petersen as Pres and Weiss as VP to “balance”. Gary, McAfee, and Weld will no longer be involved. Chair will be Sarwark again.

    Just guesses here but past experience tells me that the delegates will not take kindly to being told who their VP nominee should be and that could backfire spectacularly. And if ANYONE could care less about what the national “respectable” media has to say on any topic it is LP National Delegates.

    1. And if ANYONE could care less about what the national “respectable” media has to say on any topic it is LP National Delegates.

      Thank fucking God.

      (Even though Petersen is icky)

    2. I ran for the LP VP slot back in 2008, and was a lock until the crazies realized Barr would actually win the nomination. That’s when they changed the rules, literally at the last minute, allowing anyone, regardless of the number of VP tokens collected (most had none), to run for VP. It turned into a clusterfuck, of course, and that’s how the LP ended up with Root (with my reluctant support).

      The LP hasn’t had a true libertarian at the top of the ticket since Browne, and 2016 will be no different.

  11. Speaking of which… has *anyone* bothered to write a piece about the utter decimation of the 2014-2015 narrative which suggested that the “ULTRA-RIGHT-WING KOCH BILLIONS SET TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY BY STEALING ELECTION“?

    There was so much breathless pants-shitting over the last 3 years, yet no one has bothered to even take note that Trump has basically steamrolled over people while spending a fraction of that of the candidates in either party. Oh, i’m sure if they have it was “DUH HES A BILLIONAIRE TOO”, but the point was never ‘personal wealth’ but rather ‘political spending’, and how much the Left believes it needs to be strictly regulated lest the Koch-machine buy the Presidency.

    Someone needs to write a piece which strikes the killing-blow on this dumbfuck argument before it rises again for the general election.

    1. My favorite stat of the year was Jeb Bush spent 10 million per negative percentage point.

    2. Unfortunately, just when you thought people were past that? it’s now rumored that the KOCHTOPUS is plowing money into the Johnson/Weld ticket.

      http://www.lewrockwell.com/pol…..h-fund-lp/

      1. This rumor turned out to be false, as reported here yesterday.

        1. But it was posted on LRC….

      2. he KOCHTOPUS is plowing money into the Johnson/Weld ticket.

        Even were that true …

        (*and i hope it *would* be, because it would show people the sincerity of the Kochs in supporting political ideas that are about the inherent merits of the arguments rather than there mere political-benefits to be gained for themselves – which, incidentally is why most ‘corporations’ support democrats.)

        …. it wouldn’t change the fact that this election cycle is Disproving a very popular narrative about how the US Electoral system is hopelessly corrupted by “big money” which has made any sort of popular change of the status quo ‘impossible’.

        Everything that’s happened with Trump AND Bernie flies in the face of the cynical bullshit that Progs are always insisting. “corporations run America” blah blah blah, yet for all their bazillions, they couldn’t even win a primary against an anti-trade cad like Trump… or shut down a challenge from a freaking Socialist.

        The reason this point needs to be highlighted and hammered home is because its *simply taken for granted* by so many morons for lack of anyone challenging the idea.

        1. Had a conversation with my brother the other day. After he was going on and on complaining about big money in politics, he plans to vote for Hillary because she can work from “within the system” and is more electable. I almost pissed my pants laughing.

    3. “Someone needs to write a piece which strikes the killing-blow on this dumbfuck argument before it rises again for the general election.”

      Sorta like the articles on how GMOs are completely and totally harmless, which finally shut up that loony Jack?
      Oh, it didn’t?

      1. Exactly like that, except unlike the GMO example, no one has yet really written much about the failure of “Big Money” to sway the current election

  12. I miss the good old days of, oh, about two years ago when the libertarians were (supposedely) co-opting the Republican Party rather than the other way around. The Johnson/Weld ticket will be a disaster. The only people excited about them are…who now?

    1. “The only people excited about them are…who now?”

      The Reason editors apparently- I have seen more coverage of Weld here in the past two days than in a month when he was Mass. governor.

      1. Wrong. Back then, Brian was writing daily posts about Weld on his geocities account.

    2. They seem entirely low-energy to me.

  13. Yeah all these respectable media outlets are simply trying to sink the Republicans. That’s all this is. If any of these “respectable” media outlets endorse this ticket, I’ll eat my socks.

  14. Weld/Johnson is going to cost Hillary votes more than Trump. Trump’s fans are not going anywhere, in contrast, there are many more self-proclaimed socially liberal types who may have voted for Obama last time but can’t stomach Hillary.

    1. Trump’s fans may not be going anywhere, but they’re just a subset of total Trump voters in Nov.

    2. No one’s going after Trump’s fans.

      1. Well, aside from bounty hunters, child support officers, revenuers, the Department of Health…

  15. Slightly OT: Take it for what it is worth, but just saw on Yahoo!!’s main page that Gary Johnson is currently trending #3.

    1. How about on AOL?

      1. What no Prodigy?

    2. If nobody’s using the phone when i get home, i’ll fire up Netscape and Ask Jeeves to verify.

      1. Hey, make fun all you want, but NLQ on Ask.com are still tops. I recently despaired of good key words or phrases I could input to Google for a virology question, but just putting it scientifically on Ask got me the answer in no time.

  16. Did Reason get a chance to fondle itself over this article about Weld yet? Lots of open borders immigrant cheerleading & Trump=Hitler analogizing inside:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05……html?_r=0

  17. So, PM links are gonna be fun today, with Oklahoma being back in the news and all.

  18. This is something to get excited about? You may not believe this, but replacing the Republicans as “Home of the Cuckservatives” isn’t exactly a PR win…

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  21. RE: William Weld For Libertarian Vice President Winning Respectful Attention

    Weld VP for the LP?
    Oh please!
    I suggest you look at his record on gun control and his ideas on government.
    He’s just another republican attention whore.

    1. He’s just another republican attention whore.

      His record on gun control (he’s a proponent) may be labeled a lot of things, but “Republican” isn’t one of them.

      1. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
        He’s for gun control just like the republican governor of New Jersey, Christie.
        Weld has some pretty pro-government beliefs even for a republican.
        Weld is a bad choice for the LP.

  22. wait. Once again a party decides that top men must be really old. 1945? He was a burnt out poll when I cared about Republicans. Any Republicans from Mass is suspect from the beginning. Romney anyone?

    No please give us a libertarian or at least a constitutionalist born after god. Or at least not a burned out semi-Republican.

    1. I think libertarian makes sense once you realize republicans don’t really care about any of the shit they say they do. Unless your afraid of the gays in which case you can’t be a libertarian so you go Tea Party and get a tin foil hat.

  23. There’s no way “the American public” (defined as 50.00001% of voters) will vote for someone that anyone says something like this: “William Weld: Taxation is Theft’!”

    If you want a Libertarian to have even the faintest chance of getting more than a few votes (defined as ~4% of total votes), cool the Libertarian ideological jets.

    Or, do I miss something here?

    Where is the rationalist (pragmatic) alternative?

  24. I’ve always been a fan of Weld and would vote for him any time. I miss the sane GOP like he represents – and despise the Bible-beating assholes that make up the GOP today.

  25. Weld is a negative for Johnson among all those familiar with how he stiffed the New York Libertarian Party an election or two ago . Comparison with Bob Barr is appropriate . But Weld may be worse .

    1. He was also highly publicized for begging Bill Clinton for an ambassadorship in the late 90s…

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  28. If I understand the LP bylaws correctly, the VP nominations don’t occur until after the Presidential nominee is selected.

    Does this mean that one of the unsuccessful Presidential candidates (say Petersen or McAfee) could also run for VP?

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  34. The man accepted an ambassadorial appointment from clinton. This disqualifies him from consideration for office from Right Thinking people.

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