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Why Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils Is a Waste of Your Vote

I've voted for Republicans for president before. No more.

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Although my personal political philosophy is libertarian, like most people, over the years I have surrendered to the binary choice our two-party system gives us when casting my vote in presidential elections. I almost always find myself settling for a "lesser of two evils," but the "evil" is not so great as to prevent me from rationalizing what amounts to, by my vote, an endorsement or affirmation of the candidate. 

Because at least rhetorically, the Republican party candidate promises a greater commitment to limited, constitutional government, entitlement reform, tackling the national debt, and a belief in the benefits of free trade, I have voted for the Republican candidate for president ever since Ronald Reagan. The Republicans repeatedly disappoint on matters of foreign policy, seeing the US as world policeman. But the Democrats fare little better on foreign policy—sometimes even worse. So foreign policy as a vote-determining factor between the two major parties tended to be a wash for me. I often profoundly disagree with the Republicans on many of the "culture war" and so-called social issues, but I have had confidence that our Constitution and judiciary will defend against any overreach by Republicans in that area.

So as a matter of practicality, I have tended to base my vote on the differences between the two major party candidates on matters of economic liberty and commitment to the principles of federalism and limited government. I recognize the politicians in both political parties have differing promises but similar results: bigger government, greater debt, less individual liberty. But I use the party platforms and the candidates' rhetoric to help in my rationalization (some would say self-delusion) that I am voting for someone who will, at best, move things in a better direction or, at worst, be a lesser of two evils that I can live with.

Not so this year. The 2016 offerings of both major parties are so flawed, so authoritarian, so inclined to disregard the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and expand executive power, that even "pretzel logic" will not allow me to rationalize a choice between them.

I still wish to participate in the electoral process. Choosing not to vote is always an option. But I prefer to express my opinion in a less passive manner. Not voting certainly provides the satisfaction of knowing that I did not sanction or legitimize the offerings of the two major parties. But that satisfaction is only personal and private. I want to more actively make my views known. Using the following chain of logic, I have found a positive way to express myself through, what I believe, is the most effective allocation of my vote in November:

1) According to Professor Ilya Somin in Democracy and Political Ignorance,my vote has, on average, a roughly 1 in 60 million chance of being the decisive vote in the Presidential election. (It might be a great as 1 in 10 million in my relatively small state of Arizona. It would have a roughly 1 in a billion chance of being decisive if I lived in California.)

2) If I vote for the lesser of evils and hold my nose, my vote is blended in with millions of others—there is no way to register my dissatisfaction with the choices the two major parties have given me. There is no way to separate those who voted for a lesser of two evils from those who voted because they actually LIKED the candidate.

3) If I vote for the Libertarian party candidate, I am directly affecting the vote total of that candidate. Because that candidate will get fewer total votes than the major party candidates, when all votes are totaled up, I will have had a greater effect on raising the total percentage of votes for the Libertarian candidate. If the Libertarian candidate garners say, 5 percent of the vote as opposed to 1 percent, then my vote made a greater impact in making a statement than it would have if it was folded in with the 40 or 50 million voters who voted for a major party candidate.

4) If the Libertarian candidate gets say, 5 percent of the vote, then that clearly means that 5 percent of the voters chose a candidate that they KNEW had absolutely no chance of winning, rather than choosing the lesser of two evils. What's more, they chose the candidate with the most pro-freedom, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights program. That sends a clear message. 

Therefore:

5) By casting my vote for the Libertarian presidential candidate, my vote is actually more meaningful and makes more of a statement.

My conclusion: Voting for the lesser of two evils is statistically and strategically wasting my vote. I will vote Libertarian for president this year. This rationale does not necessarily apply to how I will vote in the down ballot races, where my vote has a greater numerical impact, I have a greater ability to directly communicate my views, and I might have less marked dissatisfaction with many of the candidates.

I offer my line of reasoning as a guide to others who might be agonizing over their decision this year.

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  1. Instead of voting, I’m going to put in some range time. I have a feeling that is going to be the best use of my time very soon.

    1. +1 bitter clinger

      1. Maybe he’s a Country Club Republican, and he meant the driving range.

        1. i don’t think they let my kind in country clubs.

          1. Only because you insist on having scary black assault rifles sticking out of your golf bag.

            1. That and I insist on drink whisky straight from the bottle. I put my damn pinky up!

            2. If you’ve ever golfed in FL, you would know that there is a need for such a club near water hazards.

        2. Or may be he cooks?

    2. Check out the windows in the school book depository.

      1. Easy now. Preet is watching you.

        1. Good luck to him, I’m a RENEGADE JEW!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

      2. Say, that barrel poking out looks more like a Mauser than a Mannlicher-Carcano…

        1. No it doesn’t move along now.

    3. “The case for voting libertarian” proves that voting libertarian repeals bad laws and lowers taxes (with audio). I wish I’d thought of it but it was Milton Friedman who pointed out that socialist (and prohibitionist) losers changed the laws (and Constitution). There are four fascist parties for antichoice, pro-life-after-death mystics to vote for, but the Prohi, GOP, Tea and Constitution prohibitionists are fast joining socialism in the dustbin. Only the pro-choice LP supports individual rights while minimizing economic coercion. A libertarian vote packs ten times the law-changing punch as a vote wasted on mixed-economy looters.

      1. Do you ever tire of spamming us with your drivel, Hank?

        1. Gosh, now that I?ve seen such irrefutable proof that the prohibition party passed the 18th Amendment with 60% of the vote, not 1.4% as reported, I guess I’ll have to go drown myself in shark-infested waters with a nosebleed. You mystical sockpuppets sure know how to assemble a cogent argument, I’ll give you that.

      2. The Libertarian VP this year supports Hillary. I now have the lesser of three evils to deal with.

  2. Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils Is a Waste of Your Vote

    You’re shilling for Cthulhu’s campaign now?

    1. Right. The headline makes me think voting for the greater evil is the best use of my vote.

    2. Also, have you ever seen Cthulhu and Trump in the same place? Didn’t think so. Hillary is a confirmed reptilian. So we have a clear choice. Though it is debatable whether the old ones will ever wake from their slumber or which evil is truly the greatest. Very complex. Hopefully I can listen to a podcast that will tell me how I should feel about it.

      1. Hillary is a confirmed reptilian.

        I’m more convinced by the hyena hybrid theory. The cackle. The pseudo-penis. Its all there.

        WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

        1. You drooling simpleton. Hyenas are reptilian dogs. Everyone knows that.

    3. I’ve been angling for a statewide director position but the followers of August Derleth have been blocking my access to the West Wing of R’yleh.

    4. Hey if someone is eating millions of the unemployed we won’t have milions of unemployed will we? You know it makes sense.

  3. I’m voting Trump now. Because fuck the cosmos.

    1. There are valid Libertarian reasons to vote Trump?e.g. a more noninterventionist foreign policy, his expressed desire to audit the Fed, etc.

      But I know all that gets glossed over on here beneath the hyperbolic “omg Trump = America Hitler” meme.

      I’d only be inclined to vote LP if they actually run a real Libertarian this time and not Johnson.

      1. Trump also professes to be way better on the 2nd amendment. However, it’s pretty much impossible to take this guy seriously about anything. I mean that’s the real reason to not vote for Trump, along with his very questionable stance on trade. The Hitler stuff is NYT level absurdity, just like their recent misogynist story, which turned out to be nothing more than fluff. But there are very real reasons for libertarians to not consider Trump. Hillary, well that’s just a no-brainer, she’s the most statist and corrupt person to ever run for the office of President that I can think of.

      2. The most valid reason to vote Trump is to troll. Anybody that good at sending the “right people” into complete apoplexy can’t be all bad. I suspect this explains the lion’s share of his appeal.

        1. The most valid reason to vote Trump is to troll. Anybody that good at sending the “right people” into complete apoplexy can’t be all bad. I suspect this explains the lion’s share of his appeal.

          Yes, he does manage to piss off all the right people?SJWs and Neocons alike. Ergo, I wouldn’t mind seeing him in office.

          1. It’s so juvenile and at the same time such an attractive appeal for Trump.

      3. There are valid Libertarian reasons to vote Trump

        I’d only be inclined to vote LP if they actually run a real Libertarian this time and not Johnson.

        Say what you want about Johnson, but any of the LP candidates are way, way more libertarian than Trump. So if you can make a case for Trump, you can make a much better case for the LP.

        1. To be clear, my post was (mostly) a joke. The part about voting, at least. But the reality remains that the libertarian party has zero chance of winning. None. And I think the demise of the GOP is grossly overstated. It’s not going anywhere.

          1. But the reality remains that the libertarian party has zero chance of winning. None. And I think the demise of the GOP is grossly overstated. It’s not going anywhere.

            Agree. But it’s possible this election provides a very good chance to move the meter. I mean, nothing crazy like 20%, but what if the LP candidate got 3% and the Greens got 2%. It’s not much, but it may raise the profile enough.

            The Free Soil Party got 5% in 1852, four years later the Republican Party got 33%. Granted, it would still need a major event like the KS-NE Act, but if you at least raise the profile, you may get people thinking.

          2. Just because the third party doesn’t outright win doesn’t mean voting for them isn’t meaningful. The goal isn’t to “win” here.

          3. By winning do you mean putting some grinning looter moron in front of the cameras? Or do you mean using spoiler votes to leverage the soft machines’ own greed for unproductive jobs into a reduction of coercion through repeal of bad laws. If you want grinning looter morons, the strategy is completely different from what makes sense if you want fewer guns pointed at you. Choose.

      4. Republican shills are, of course attracted by the headline. But the smart money votes for the party platform, not the grinning figurehead, and Gary INCREASED the vote tally even before Texas went 3% libertarian in the mid-terms.
        Trump wants the practice of medicine to be a crime. This is not the 1920s. There are no abortion laws in Canada, and they have a libertarian party too.

        1. Canada has a libertarian party??
          When did that happen?
          I see left, lefter and leftist on the ballot.

      5. I like Trump and Johnson.

      6. Trump is more a Libertarian then Dem or Repub. but don’t let it get around.

    2. After Bernie is disposed of, Reason is going to change their name to ‘ReadyForHillary’.

      1. I doubt they’ll do a direct endorsement, but they’ve certainly given enough of a tacit endorsement that they’d prefer a Hillary presidency to a Trump one.

        Not sure who in their right mind could believe that a Hillary presidency would be more beneficial to Libertarianism?but then, most of Reason’s writers aren’t really Libertarian.

        1. Neither is anyone shilling for Trump.

        2. Well, that was sarcasm. But they’ve already made it clear that Trump is the greater of 2 evils in their mind through the past several months of the articles posted here. Very little about Hillary’s corruption, scandals, etc, a new why Trump is de debil article every 5 seconds or so. The thought of either of them being in the Whitehouse is unsettling to say the least. But one of them will be and I for one am a little over it after 8 years of Captain Bathroom Nazi, AKA Captain Murder Drone.

          1. Lol @ Capt. Murder Drone. Nice one.

            Trump might be a harbinger of uncertain outcomes. But ceteris paribus, I’d rather gamble on uncertain outcomes rather than known bad outcomes (Hillary).

            1. Hillary will die before Election Day, and you will have a dead body in your car before you get home tonight.

              1. If I was going to bet anything on Hillary, it would be for a post-convention indictment and a “draft Joe” movement.

          2. So the logic here is that criticism of Trump and relative silence on Hillary is tantamount to an endorsement of Hillary?

            1. That’s been the argument all week.

        3. Has Reason ever endorsed any candidate?

          I think you are nuts. They may be overly fixated on Trump, but that is no reason to believe that they have any kind of good feelings for Hillary. I don’t know why so many people want to believe that everyone has hidden motivations and secret agendas. Trump is the big story in this election. It may be stupid, but it is what it is. Everyone that doesn’t support Hillary knows that she is a piece of shit.

          1. I don’t think Reason as a group/entity has ever officially endorsed anyone. It comprises different writers with different opinions.

            1. And everyone’s an editor.

              We’ll see, but I bet a lot that none of them vote for Hillary (if they do another of those “who are you voting for”). Obama in 2008 was a whole other thing. Hillary is known to have absolutely nothing to offer libertarians or anyone inclined in that direction.

              1. I also doubt any of them will explicitly vote Hillary?nobody was suggesting they would. What was alleged is that many likely see her as preferable to Trump (which I think is a dumb outlook for anyone fond of Libertarianism).

            2. The Reason Foundation is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and under the Lyndon Johnson Amendment, they can’t endorse candidates.

              Of course, this violates the First Amendment, but, hey, tell that to Lyndon Johnson.

          2. Everyone that DOES support Hillary also knows it.

            1. Yeah. That’s probably also true.

            2. Have you seen them dancing around in their own chairman mao pantsuits and giddily waving little American flags? It’s a truly horrifying spectacle.

        4. Another Dem presidency is preferable to a another mystical prohibitionist securities market death by overdosing on asset forfeiture laws. Observe that the rush to legalize hemp came right after Georgie Bush wrecked the economy putting Daddy’s (and Herbert Hoover’s) prohibition enforcement ideas into practice again.The states were the ones “sharing” the asset forfeiture loot and the collapse.

    3. I’m pretty sure that’s the only reason anyone is voting for Trump.

      That’s what we need, more politics based solely on spite.

      1. When the only candidates being promoted by their own parties are deserving of nothing but spite, isn’t that the inevitable, even if stupid, outcome?

        1. That’s true, but not what I was referring to. The initial comment was saying that he would vote based purely on who it would piss off. Which is just another version of TEAM bullshit. Or he just hates the universe. Hard to tell what “cosmos” means.

          1. That’s kind of the brilliance of the Trump campaign though: he doesn’t just piss of Democrats, he pisses off Republicans too. He’s a textbook third party insurgent, who also had enough sense to seize one of the party nominations because it was there for the taking.

            1. I was a kid when Reagan was President. This will be my first chance to vote for a candidate who has a chance that both the Democrats and the Republicans hate. And since the GOP trolled me with McCain in 2008, I have no problem trolling them with Trump.

            2. True, and he probably could’ve had either of them. I was just thinking now how cool it’d’ve been for him to seek & win both major parties’ noms! Because then everyone would seriously have been super pissed off, especially when there’d’ve been an insurgent independent campaign by someone against him. It’d’ve been like a successful revolt & then a revolt against the revolt, all in 1 election!

              1. If you didn’t already know, I’m the guy who was primarily responsible for getting Howard Stern to seek the LP nomination for governor of NY. I started working on him in 1984.

      2. The collective meltdown would (will?) be fun to watch, though.

      3. I’ve been a Spitetarian for the past four years. I have a pamphlet if you’re interested.

      4. Nearly everything I do in life is out of spite.

        1. *makes secret Spitetarian hand signals at Brochettaward*

          1. Just so you know, taking a slightly open fist and shaking it back and forth at your groin isn’t really all that secret.

            1. If the dice land in your crotch, do they count?

              1. +1 saving throw

        2. Yeah, I know I’m the fucking weirdo, wanting to be nice and honest and give people the benefit of the doubt.

        3. My friend Nadine keeps on living in spite, instead of killing herself.

      5. *votes for Trump to spite Zeb*

        1. Joke’s on you. That’s just what I wanted you to do.

      6. Better spite than fanatical prohibitionism. Look at the Campaign of 1932.

    4. Clinton will certainly be a horrible president. Trump will probably be a horrible president.

      Probably horrible seems like it would be better than certainly horrible.

      However, progressives will be free to associate Trump’s horribleness with capitalism, free enterprise, deregulation, rights of speech, press, firearms, etc., etc. It will make no difference whether Trump is a capitalist, an advocate of free enterprise or individual rights: Americans are indoctrinated to view politics as a binary thing.

      Further, when the economy tanks, and it’s fairly certain that the economy will tank in the next couple of years, they’ll associate it with capitalism and all those freedoms that conservatives and libertarians advocate. It will make no difference whether the recession is due to Trump’s economic policies or the consequence of Bush/Obama policies.

      The propaganda value of a Trump presidency to the progressive movement is a major reason to not vote for Trump.

      1. However, progressives will be free to associate Trump’s horribleness with capitalism, free enterprise, deregulation, rights of speech, press, firearms, etc., etc.

        ^ This

        Trump = President Business

        1. that’s why a part of me wanted bernie to win…for once, just maybe, the right economic ideology would get the blame.

          oh fuck it, they’ll blame all of that ‘unregulated free-market capitalism’ that we have either way.

      2. True, however, great minds discuss third-party platforms. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. Perohibitionist confiscations wreck the economy. Look at the flash crashes of 2010 (DEA confiscating Columbian bank accounts) and the March 2015 flash crash (federal “money laundering” threats against the entire global economy). This is the work of a Republican-controlled legislative branch. The prez is merely an enforcer.

      3. Yeah, but Hillary’s horror would be associated w being female.

      4. However, progressives will associate any elected official’s horribleness with capitalism, free enterprise, deregulation, rights of speech, press, firearms, etc., etc–including a longstanding member of their movement.. It will make no difference whether anyone is a capitalist, an advocate of free enterprise or individual rights: Progressives see everyone as potentially not progressive enough..

        FTFY

        Progressives and leftists will blame anything they see as bad on free markets, individualism, liberty, capitalism, etc. And they will claim that their policies are the impetus behind anything good that happens–regardless of it’s actual provenance.

        The media will aid them.

        As they have for decades. This is, sadly, the way of things.

        Trump seems oblivious to this. He does what he does and either ignores them, or acts as if their loathing is fawning devotion.

        It drives them mad.

        They get no ‘propaganda value’ out of a trump win that they have not used for decades–they DO get a man who treats them like clucking hens whose displeasure–as measured in squawking–is something to be smiled at and ignored.

        Trump denies them legitimacy

        and, as much as I hate Trump, that’s a Good Thing, as Martha is wont to say.

    5. The entire cosmos?

  4. Choosing not to vote is always an option. But I prefer to express my opinion in a less passive manner.

    Voting is actually a more passive way to express your opinion than to actually go out and express your opinion in writing somewhere for people to read, or by speaking to another human being. Your vote will make no difference, no matter which state you live in. Talking to someone or writing something might change someone’s mind.

    That said, I’m still voting, and voting Libertarian. Not to sway the outcome, but to have my preference counted. The LP vote total will be there for anyone to look up in the future. Unless maybe Trump wins and purges it.

    1. Your vote will repeal ten times the bad laws as one wasted on looters. Two percent is more than the commies and prohibitionists combined could muster in 1909, when the dry and income tax Force Amendments were concocted. The entrenched looters have to get 50%+1 and STILL can’t repeal or cut anything. Our spoiler votes are repealing bad laws all over These States at a tipping-point pace. They have to repeal or lose that hand in the till…

  5. This is a sad, na?ve position.

    While it is certainly true that 2-party system is horrible flawed and the choices this cycle are abysmal, it is the height of immaturity to believe that voting for the LP in the general is of any more value then crying alone in a dark room.

    Voting for the candidate that will do the least damage is the only responsible choice. Express dissatisfaction…scream to the heavens…buy ads…put pithy bumperstickers on your car…but in November……FFS….vote for the candidate that will screw us all over the least to keep out the candidate that will rape us for the next 4 years.

    Trump may be a narcissistic, corrupt, crony-capitalist weasel. Hillary has been proven to be a narcissistic, corrupt, crony-capitalist weasel.

    1. Voting for the candidate that will do the least damage is the only responsible choice.

      Way to miss the point!

      1. He seems to be saying that protest-voting for a third party candidate will make no difference, but voting for a major party candidate will make a difference?

        1. He’s saying “Make America Great Again” but trying to dumb it down for us.

          1. It’s about time someone did.

          2. There’s no dumbing down left to do, I hope he likes golf.

      2. That means Gary Johnson. He’s certainly going to do the least harm since he’s not going to even get elected. My new slogan is ‘Waste the Vote!’, and that’s not sarcasm.

      3. No, I think he’s right. That is the point.

        I often vote LP, but sometimes, when I think my vote might actually matter, I think it’s more important to stop the Democrat. Yes, the GOP usually sucks, and is heading us off a cliff in many ways. But Democrats are doing the same, faster. They keep pressing the accelerator even harder.

        1. No, I think he’s right.

          Air-tight proof that he’s wrong.

      4. The full paragraph ended with “vote for the candidate that will screw us all over the least to keep out the candidate that will rape us for the next 4 years.”

        Way to fail at getting the whole point.

        The authors points was that voting LP is the best choice. I refute that. Libertarians are a large enough block to allow Hillary to squeeze through the general. She is a known evil and will eff us over hard. Trump may eff us over, but that has yet to be proven and at a minimum the media will keep him in check much like they did to Bush. Hillary would have the run of the country with a lackey press hiding everything from the people.

        yeh…vote LP in general and help facilitate a President Clinton. grow up

        1. So, discuss –

          1) Were Nader supporters responsible for getting Bush II elected instead of Gore?

          and

          2) Is that a point in their favor, since the Democrats will Destroy the Universe, while the Republicans will Only Destroy the Galaxy?

          1. 1) yes, but this is a false comparison as neither Bush 2.0 (misguided fool) or Gore (bumbling dufus)reach the level of Evil that is Hillary Clinton
            2) Trump and Hillary are neither Republican or Democrat, but align with those parties solely for election purposes. This isn’t team red versus team blue. Both are in it for themselves, parties be damned.

            My point is that Hillary has proven she will tear down the country for her own benefit. She will eff us all hard if it puts money in her Foundation. The pay-for-play closet-server fiasco is all the proof we need and the lack of indictment shows that we cannot rely on the checks and balances anymore.
            Any action that facilitates her getting elected is a bad idea regardless of the feelgoods of a LP protest vote.

            1. ”The pay-for-play closet-server fiasco is all the proof we need and the lack of indictment shows that we cannot rely on the checks and balances anymore.”

              That’s it for me. too.

    2. I plan on voting for the candidate that will do the least damage. It just so happens that that candidate will have “LP” next to his name.

    3. Thanks. You have convinced me not to vote at all. Voting at all is not of any more value than crying alone in a dark room.

    4. What if I vote for Trump and he loses my state (in which case all the electoral votes for the state go to Hillary anyway)? Is that of more value than crying alone in a dark room?

      1. Or what if I vote for Trump and he wins my state by more than one vote? Is that of more value than crying alone in a dark room?

      2. No, that will at least show your discontent!

        But only if you vote R. Voting L doesn’t count.

    5. Oh, puleeezzeeee, put a sock in it.

    6. Voting for the candidate that will do the least damage is the only responsible choice

      And that would be the LP candidate.

      1. And it could be said that voting for the lesser of two evils is itself the greatest evil.

    7. Savvy voters know that looter politicians ONLY change the laws when small parties get the votes that make the difference between a cushy seat and getting beat! The GOP, Prohi, Tea and Constitution gangs want to force women to have their rapists’ children and break the economy with more asset forfeiture: The Dems at least understand that the 14th Amendment assures equal rights for women. Other than that they are identical. I’m voting for a pro-choice LP platform even if they run a yellow dog as candidate.
      Nothing ever changes until small parties get the votes to make their platforms happen (about 2%).

  6. Wait… did someone just learn from history? Oh no! Commence self-destruction sequence!

  7. “Fuck ’em, Ethan. Fuck this whoooooole thing.”

    1. Fuck it, Dude, let’s go bowling.

  8. Trump! For the LOLZ!

    1. This is the shorter and wittier version of me above.

    2. Trump really should somehow convince Biden to switch parties and run as his VP. Now that would be some Lulz. Hillary would shit her pantsuit.

        1. Ewwwww

  9. Been rocking my “Cthulhu 2016 – Why Vote For Lesser Evil” t-shirt around town.

    Its been well received.

    1. Why do you creatures think Cthulhu is the ‘greater’ evil? It sleeps in Rl’yeh right now, what evil is that?

      Because August cast It as a devil and told you It would eat you?

      If you are one of those fortunate enough to receive It’s dreams, you know full well that It won’t eat you–It doesn’t even fully comprehend how tiny you creatures are. It doesn’t know that you are only slightly larger than mites.

      It will slaughter you–by the millions–but not with malice–and It may even try to keep the promises made to generations of cultists–never understanding that they will be blasted into utter madness in the attempt–but you have to understand, It’s slaughter will be the same slaughter you cause when you walk through a room, unthinking smashing billions beneath your feet, inhaling and digesting millions through your nose and mouth.

      It won’t even hear your screams.

  10. There’s another libertarian argument for Trump that doesn’t seem to get talked about much. We often complain about executive power, about people putting too much faith in government, especially in DC. Well, Trump is a big lesson in that, isn’t he? You want masses of voters to suddenly discover the virtues of limited government? The virtues of federalism? Of not worshipping Presidents as God-Kings who can solve everybody’s problems? Then elect Trump.

    1. The problem is that everyone discovers those things when their guy isn’t in office, and immediately forgets them when he is.

      1. Why the hell do people consider any of them “their guy”? I guess people just like being on teams.

    2. That’s true. Which is why my general feeling about this election has been, since before Trump became inevitable, that electing a republican would be the thing this time. What I think we really need is a long series of one-term presidents, alternating parties. Why the fuck do these assholes keep getting reelected?

      I’m still not going to vote for someone I almost completely disagree with.

    3. People haven’t learned that lesson so far. I’m not sure why Trump will change that. The response will not be “limit the power of the president” but “make sure a guy like this never gets that power again”.

      1. “make sure a guy like this never gets that power again”.

        I’ve learned this lesson repeatedly since voting for GHWB against Tank Commander Dukakis.

        It doesn’t help.

    4. You want masses of voters to suddenly discover the virtues of limited government? The virtues of federalism? Of not worshipping Presidents as God-Kings who can solve everybody’s problems? Then elect Trump.

      Except that a lot of Trump’s more mouth breathing supporters view him as some kind of God King, just like Obama’s cultists did/ do. The only people who don’t are the people who oppose him, which includes the media. That’s really the only positive thing I can conclude about a Trump presidency: the media would actually do their fucking jobs instead of giving the president the wettest, sloppiest BJ ever like they do with Obama (but they would do that with any R president). That and Congress might suddenly remember that it’s their job to pass legislation not the president’s with his “pen and phone.”

      That’s still pretty weak tea, especially given that executive authority has already been expanded beyond all reason. I’ll vote for whoever the LP nominee is (if I bother at all). You do whatever the fuck you want, I really don’t give shit.

      1. No. No Trump supporters I know deify him. They just think that installing him will empower themselves by weakening the Establishment. The only thing they think Trump himself will be excellent at is winning elections, & that’s all they need. President Trump is the big, “Fuck you, we don’t need your kind any more” to all the others.

    5. Another argument for a Trump presidency is that Libertarians might enjoy a tactical marriage of convenience again with elements of the Progressive Left that claim to be against war, govt surveillance, and other areas of Federal overreach. Those fuckers sure went conspicuously silent once Obama came into office.

      1. “Another argument for a Trump presidency is that Libertarians might enjoy a tactical marriage of convenience again with elements of the Progressive Left…”

        I was thinking something along these lines. Trump got to the position where he is not because his appeal to the Right (he’s little different from Cruz et al) but his appeal to disaffected, dispossessed Republicans as an Outsider. I thought if Trump were to succeed in the Presidential race, he’d have to repeat his success he enjoyed as an Outsider, only this time bringing on board disaffected and dispossessed Democrats. Not all that much of a stretch given his populism.

        I think this opportunity is slipping away from Trump as mainstream, Insider Republicans begin to embrace him. To the extent that Trump accepts this embrace, he loses his chance to appeal to the disaffected of both parties.

        1. I don’t think there’s much chance of Trump’s selling out like that.

        2. There’ll be enough #NeverTrump Neocon bitter-clingers to keep fanning the flames of Trump’s outsider status.

    6. If neither side learned that lesson from 16 years of Bush and Obama, they aren’t going to.

    7. The Declaration made us independent, not Jefferson. The Constitution made Europe back off, not Madison. Republicans know how to swill Bud and watch teevee, but Libertarians read platforms, laws and history. Since 1928 the GOP has thought of nothing but theocratic Blue laws and prohibition. Everything Trump says comes from the fifty-page GOP platform. Whoever they nominate will push that platform and nothing else. That NEVER changes until a small party (and loss of mystical geezers to actuarial statistics) makes them lose time after time. Then they’ll change their platform or get their Court to do it for them.

      Remember the draft?

  11. Trump! Watch Cytoxic completely lose it!

    1. Cyto will shit his pantsuit also.

    2. That will be the one silver lining of the election results

  12. Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils Is a Waste of Your Vote Time

    FTFY

  13. Trump! Make Facebook implode!

  14. Trump! Making late night monologues great again!

  15. Trump! Make American great again, deport Cytotoxic!

    1. Er, he’s going to deport him from Canada?

      1. Wait, he already got deported? If not, then yes, deport him from Canada, make Canada great again!

        1. Getting rid of Ted Cruz did Canada no harm. There is not a single antiabortion law on the books there. Here, nearly all the states that keep libertarians off the ballot are run by ku-klux, life-begins-at-erection, girl-bullying thugs (AR, MO, IL, OH, IA, AL, TN, KY, LA, VA ) or effete soft machine yankees.
          A vote for ANY Grand Old Prohibitionist politician is a vote to keep the LP off the ballot!

          1. Cripes you’re tiresome, Hank.

  16. Trump! It’s about time poor people started paying taxes around here!

    1. Not sure how that works since poor people pay 0% under his tax plan.

      1. See “45% Tariff”.

        1. Only a threat directed @ China, not all imports.

          It won’t happen anyhow.

  17. Trump! ‘Cause Messicans cain’t climb!

  18. When most folks speak of “wasting your vote”, they seem to be referring to the possibility of a single vote determining the outcome of an election. But even they know that’s virtually impossible. Still, it is possible to waste a vote even though it will never determine the outcome.

    A single vote is nothing more and nothing less than a scintilla of support for a candidate. Why on earth would a libertarian express a scintilla of support for either Trump or Clinton?

    1. To be part of the zerg rush, duh.

      1. +1 Starcraftcrack reference.

    2. Or a scintilla of opposition. It cuts both ways.

    3. In a system where your individual vote is guaranteed to NEVER decide the election, “wasting your vote” means casting it for someone you don’t want to have it. I get accused of wasting my vote all the time, but I’m part of maybe 10% of the voting public who ISN’T wasting theirs.

      1. That is the case for voting libertarian. We repeal bad laws, and THAT is WINNING!

  19. ‘Lesser of two evils’ is a very effective and known propaganda and manipulation technique. It’s not some natural spontaneous observation. It is selectively planted so that it can spread. Why would any free person want to be the perpetuator of their own manipulation?

    May also be the real economic reason why cronyism is so cost-effective. Not so much that government itself has coercive power. But that to take control of the levers of that power, one only needs to be a winner in a controlled predictable duopolistic competition for those levers. The same dynamic works with a legislature that has been fixed in size for a century – only need to influence a smaller number of people who you can help entrench in office.

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  22. Why Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils Is a Waste of Your Vote Time

  23. The only thing which could keep me on the Republican reservation is the Supreme Court, and Trump has chosen to highlight the fact that his sister is a federal judge – a prochoice judge – and he thinks she’d be ideal for the Supreme Court.

    Of course, that doesn’t say how he’d evaluate a judicial candidate who isn’t related to him.

    But add his praise of Planned Parenthood and his highly dubious last-minute conversion to prolife – and if it’s genuine, what’s to stop him from “sincerely” converting back again to the choicerism he’s had most of his life – and the usual “but…but…you *have* to stop the Democrat” arguments start looking dumb.

    1. And I admit that I’m somewhat put off by the element of “OK, you retards, I’ll say a few words like ‘prolife’ and then you’ll shut up and vote for me, right?”

    2. That may well be the lipstick on the grenade, as Scott Adams describes Trump.

  24. I think it’s best to avoid taking absolute stands on your voting policy. If you’re a guaranteed non-voter for either party, why should they care what you think and try to be more freedom-friendly? Same goes for being a guaranteed voter for either party (see: black people and their relationship with Democrats). Even goes for the LP.

    I do agree this is a singularly anti-libertarian pair of candidates, with a D that doesn’t seem particularly into peace and an R that doesn’t seem particularly into fiscal prudence or free religion, and with both super keen on suppressing opinions that they disagree with.

    Still, I think your decision on whether to minimize harm, vote principles, or abstain should be driven by critical thinking, not hard-and-fast rules.

    1. You’re right if your vote is ‘guaranteed’. The whole point is to make your vote unpredictable. And at least noticed if it doesn’t actually matter. Since it will never actually matter, noticed is important.

      Problem is on the day after the election how can anyone tell the difference between a vote by someone who was holding their projectile vomit in their mouth – and the candidate themselves? Or the difference between someone who didn’t vote on principle and someone who won’t ever vote?

    2. Look again at those states that keep the LP off the ballot: they arrest victimless citizens minding their own business, and jail doctors for saving women from coathangers. The GOP has tarbrushed fiscal responsibility by association with fanatical superstition, crude racial collectivism, murderous cops, prohibitionist bigots and bad hairstyles.
      Look at how the socialists and drys ruined the constitution. They stuck to their guns. The looters came to them to panhandle spoiler votes. Currish fawning after looter party scraps only makes sense for a pack of curs. The party of principle will replace the parties of prohibition because they are wrong and we defend rights.

    3. I am a guaranteed non-voter of either party because they put forth absolutely terrible candidates. As soon as they put forth candidates who are at least good, I will consider voting for them. My vote for the LP announces my preferences.

  25. the worst part about the wasted vote theory is that it only works because people believe it. people don’t vote third parties, because they believe their vote can’t make any difference there. they don’t recognize that by not doing so, they are just one of the many lemmings, and they have so little impact on the overall numbers. a million extra votes for the GOP in 2012 would not have had little impact. a million extra votes for GayJay would have doubled his numbers. the more a candidate takes of the whole, the less impact your individual vote has.

    1. Then it makes even more sense to write yourself in, increasing the vote for you by infinity.

  26. For the ultimate back-of-the-hand, vote for the Greatest Evil…..perhaps then, and only then, will the idiots among us get the message.

  27. Voting makes as much sense as prayer, and people who fall for the ruse of ‘representative’ democracy are ignorant of the literal impossibility of representativeness.

    The failure of preference-aggregation to generate a well-formed social preference function (i.e., a rank ordering of ‘what society wants’) was conjectured by Codorcet (in 1785), and was proved by Arrow in his not-famous-enough Impossibility Theorem from 1950.

    Put simply: if there are more than 2 voters and more than 2 options (‘abstain’ is an option), then there is no guarantee that aggregating individual preferences will result in a meaningful social preference function (i.e., “what society wants”). In particular, the social preference function may be ‘cyclical’ (in aggregate A B, and B C, but C A).

    Taken together with two other impossibility theorems (Gibbard-Satterthwaite [all vote-counting mechanisms are dictatorial or corruptible] and Holmstr?m’s [no agent-based budget-adhering Paretian Nash equilibrium]), are the dagger through the heart of the pretension of ‘representative’ government.

    When despotism became unsustainable, the parasitic classes (clerics, aristocracy and bureaucrats) required a new justification for continuing to live in palaces funded by the surplus productivity of the non-parasites. Once the myth of divine rule and the power to put unbelievers on bonfires was taken away, they needed a new schtick to continue to live parasitically off the societies they infest.

  28. Sorry doctor, but there is a “HUUUGE” difference between Republicans and Democrats.
    You CAN vote for a specific Republican, based on issues and character. But you can only ever vote for a party with the Democrats. The Democrats enforce orders of magnitude higher party discipline than Republicans.
    Just look at the cram-down of obamacare. Blue-dog, yellow-dog, Farm party, any stripe at all. They voted lockstep.
    We can NOT count on reelection concerns to temper the dirigiste enthusiasms of the Democrats.

  29. When you vote for the lesser of two evils, you’re still voting for an evil.

  30. I would usually vote Republican in the Presidential election, but I will vote LP in this one. Any small government Republican who actually cares about policy and not just getting someone in office with an R next to his name should do the same.

    If Trump wins, he might be modestly better than Hillary on the Supreme Court and Obamacare. I’ve seen his list of possible Supreme Court appointments: yes they are pretty good.

    But Trump is so, so bad on so many other things that it doesn’t really matter:
    – he’s a protectionist
    – wants to maintain entitlements
    – bad on the free movement of labor
    – bad tax plan
    – stupid wall idea
    – supports Planned Parenthood
    – schizophrenic on foreign policy
    – untrustworthy on privacy issues
    – and the demeanor of a five year old

    On all these issues, Gary Johnson is way better. And on drugs and gay marriage, I don’t care, legalise it. Just leave me alone.

    Trump’s views are not free-market conservative and are mostly the exact opposite. Yet if Trump wins, his views will be the Republican Party. It will transform from an ostensibly conservative party to a statist, authoritarian populist party. If you think moving the Republican Party in a libertarian direction is difficult now, wait until Trump is done with it.

    If Trump loses because the LP polled 5 or 10%, well so what? The next four years will be marginally worse under Hillary but at least there will a Republican Party that could return to its small government ideals.

  31. Voting in general is a waste of time. The “winner” has already been chosen, before the polls even open.

  32. “By casting my vote for the Libertarian presidential candidate, my vote is actually more meaningful and makes more of a statement.”

    More meaningful to you, perhaps, but still not avoiding the worst-case scenario. The “statement” I hear is:

    “I voted for a candidate who had no chance of winning, and less-directly contributed to the loss of another candidate, because I want to avoid having to defend my decision to vote for one of the two main party candidates, that defense inevitable because I often make it my business to tell people for whom I voted.”

    1. Your libertarian vote repeals bad laws. That puts YOU ahead of the game. Cops bust people for what the Law says, not what Trump, Hillary, Bush or the Mohammedan says. And Congress, not the prez, is what passes laws in desperate attempts to hold their sinecures.

    2. Yeah, well, good luck with that. Voting for the ‘lesser’ of two evils is largely what got us into this situation in the first place. Watch as the candidates become increasingly evil and one candidate remains a bit less evil than the other, guaranteeing that unprincipled suckers will vote for them.

      Voting for a third party is not about making them win outright. Use the perception of the spoiler effect to your advantage.

  33. Hillary Clinton is evil personified. Pure evil – undiluted – 100% fresh – FDA approved – GMO! All Natural 100% pure from organic ingredients.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY0QAiYvZP8

    1. Hillbilly-to-English translation: the Democratic platform does not seek to jail women, doctors or hippies.

      1. Hank,
        Kill yourself,
        Sincerely, .
        The rest of us

      2. Hank,
        Kill yourself,
        Sincerely, .
        The rest of us

  34. For approximately the same reasons, I won’t vote for the LP candidates. I don’t want to boost their vote totals because I don’t want to encourage libertarians to think LP is a beneficial form of activism.

    1. If the Conservative Party here in NY nominates someone else for POTUS, then I’ll vote for their nominee, because I haven’t given up on them the way I’ve given up on LP.

      1. Gosh, I’m crushed! Say hi to Joel Oateen and Creflo Dollar over at the koathanger klavern. I promise to cry all the way to the Soap Creek Saloon.

  35. I don’t recall how many years that I have been a negisterred Libertarian, but it has been a while. I have always assumed that voting for the ‘LESSER OF TWO EVILS” was still a vote for evil. The republican (small “r”) and the socialist (democrat) party have both lied on their oath of office about fealty to the Constitution of our Republic, as they show NO fidelity to that document. If people (of whom many, if not most) would vote for a true constitutionalist instead of hoping that the rhetoric spouters will live up to their promises, the country would not be floundering in the quagmire of endless war and unsustainable debt. When will the majority of votes realize their folly?

  36. I’ve voted for Republicans for president before. No more.

    So, that’s a no on the party of Johnson/Weld, not to mention the ur-elephant Bob Barr, right?

    1. Let’s not forget that Barr was once one of the most notorious drug warriors in Congress, and had he remained in the GOP, he probably would have stayed that way. Apostasy on that issue is something that very few high-ranking Republicans can get away with.

  37. My formula here is fairly simple. I follow the polling, and if the race is close, I’ll go right ahead and vote for the lesser of two evils. In my heavily blue state of California, barring a Trumpocalypse, the 2016 presidential race will not be close, so I’ll be free to vote for Gary Johnson with a song in my heart. If I lived in one of the ~11 swing states, I could not do so with a clear conscience.

    Professor Somin’s calculations aside, GWB “won” by fewer than 600 votes in Florida, setting in motion the Iraq War (among other things). It can happen, and I would not have wanted to be one of those Florida Nader voters or stay-at-home Dems who woke up Wednesday morning and thought, “Oh crap, what did I just do?”

  38. Even though Trump would not be an ideal president, he will still get my vote this year. If he gets elected, at least we’ll get conservative/constitutional Supreme Court justices. That’s the most important issue in this election. So even if I’m a hard core Anarcho-capitalist, in my opinion, a vote for the Libertarian party this year is a vote for Hillary and a liberal SCOTUS. I urge other Libertarians to vote republican this year as well.

  39. I’m voting Trump because I think he’s the best candidate. Shoot me.

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  42. I was going to vote Johnson but then realized if there’s even a minute chance that trump would nominate slightly more conservative justices than Hillary, then it’s worth keeping her out of office.

  43. Oh Jeffry….
    if you’re buying into the Left/Right paradigm, you’re already “wasting” your vote because you are fatally misinformed.
    There’s hardly a dimes worth of daylight between the two parties, just who wastes more of your tax-dollars. If you don’t work or don’t intend to, then yeah, the choice is easy. But when it comes to actual Congressional responsibility, they have both conceded their authority to the executive branch. They only care about getting re-elected and keeping the gravy train running on-time.

  44. Voting for a Rep. or Dem. is like taking a lighted candle into a huge auditorium where millions of people are there with a lighted candles. Your entering the room makes virtually no difference.

  45. The libertarian candidate does not actually have to win. Johnson got over 1 million votes last election. If that number can grow to 2-3 million it is a difference maker. If it grows closer to 5 million it gets Libertarian views a place at the table when policy is made. We will not in a year or two suddenly have a libertarian congress, senate and white house. Need to start influencing policy with small victories and gain ground over time.

  46. The problem with this is that even if you choose the LP candidate, knowing that he’ll probably lose, you still lend legitimacy to two big parties, one of which is likely to win. Remember the phrase, “Elections have consequences and we won.” This is usually used as an excuse to trample the losers. You’re handing them the stick to beat you with. I won’t participate in that.

  47. by voting anybody but Trump you’re voting for Clinton. You may say whatever you want, but that is reality. You decide if you want her or not.

    1. So I guess you wouldn’t mind if these people who vote third party would just vote directly for Clinton instead, since you seem to think there is no difference? Couldn’t you also say that people who vote for anybody but Clinton are voting for Trump? What about people who don’t vote? Are they simultaneously voting for Clinton, Trump, and every candidate who is running? What if they never would have voted for Trump under any circumstances? You seem to think that a particular candidate “owns” your vote, but that is simply not the case; no one is inherently entitled to your vote.

      Not supporting X is not the same as supporting Y. Until you learn to comprehend basic logic, there’s no hope for you.

  48. “It is better to vote for what you want and not get it, than to vote for what you don’t want and get it.”
    – Eugene Debs

    Voting for the lesser of two evils is a vote for the Republican/Democratic diarchy. This is precisely what they count on each and every election. It’s telling that the author bases his decision upon rhetoric, because in truth, there is very little difference in practice, (although, oddly, team Republican does tend to increase the size of government more than team Democrat does).
    There are more than two choices. Our two-party “system” is merely de facto. Yet, it is taught to schoolchildren as if it were Constitutional. Debs was right. If you’re not voting for who you think is the best candidate, you are wasting your vote. You’re simply saying, “More of the same, please”.

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  50. RE: Why Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils Is a Waste of Your Vote

    Voting for any candidate but a Libertarian is a waste of your vote.
    At least, for any sane and informed person.
    Maybe that’s why Amerika is a socialist slave state.
    The sane’s vote is overwhelmed by the insane vote.
    That would explain a lot of Amerika’s history for the past 100 years.

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    So you can support Hillary by supporting Hillary. Or you can support Hillary by piling dirt of Trump. Or you can support Hillary by supporting a 3rd party candidate – who you know will not win – and pull votes away from Trump.

    Clinton leads. The election is hers to lose, and Trumps to win. In this situation, any vote you pull away is a vote for her.

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  53. Anyone who cannot favor the lesser of two evils is a moral imbecile who should never be listened to by anybody.

    Singer’s actual claim here is that Trump is NOT a lesser evil than the Alinsky communist mega-criminal Hillary Clinton, which is pure insanity.

    “The 2016 offerings of both major parties are so flawed, so authoritarian, so inclined to disregard the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and expand executive power, that even “pretzel logic” will not allow me to rationalize a choice between them.”

    What authoritarian thing did Trump ever do? This is pure fantasy. Trump’s big flaw is that he is a political neophyte. Far from showing authoritarian tendencies what he actually shows is a marked tendency to back off IMMEDIATELY in the face of criticism. Normally that would be a sign of weakness, but in Trump’s case, where his big flaw is that he is a political neophyte, it is good. He is willing to learn, and does not have a STUPID ego. A giant ego, yes, but not a pig-headed one.

    He is the only one who is willing to speak out about the giant conspiracy to commit mass murder that is orthodox Islam. He wants national gun rights legislation. He wants Scalia-like Supreme Court justices. He wants to stop the genocide against Christians that is sweeping the Islamic world, but to this moron Sullivan, based on nothing but his own psychological insecurities, Trump is no better than Clinton. What an idiot.

    1. Anyone who cannot favor the lesser of two evils is a moral imbecile who should never be listened to by anybody.

      Anyone who votes for evil, even if they are a ‘lesser’ evil, is a shortsighted, unprincipled fool. Shortsighted because you only care about what happens in the very next election, and unprincipled because you’re willing to give support to evil. The One Party has absolutely no incentive to put forth better candidates if suckers keep voting for them as long as one candidate remains a bit less evil than the other, and in fact the candidates they put forth will likely get increasingly evil.

      Third parties don’t need to win. We need to utilize the perception of the spoiler effect to frighten away terrible candidates from The One Party and encourage better candidates to step forward, even if that takes a long time. But I guess long-term thinking isn’t possible for most voters, because they’re pants-shitting cowards.

      What authoritarian thing did Trump ever do?

      He has come out against Snowden, has come out in favor of Internet censorship, has supported the idea of the government stealing people’s property, is still a warmonger, doesn’t favor legalizing all drugs, and in general seems to be opposed to following the constitution when it is inconvenient. But since you used the word “do”, I don’t know if that counts. Regardless, someone who would even claim to believe any of these things is already a worthless candidate.

  54. Lesser of two evils? The most damaging stunt the Libertarians have assisted in of late is the hip check they did on the Republicans in VA. Now all the head-in-the-clouds purists here firmly believe that by remaining true and sabotaging the ‘R’ again they somehow won’t be electing Hilary.

    In rebuttal, if the Libertarian candidate gets an actually significant portion of the vote, then that clearly means that enough of the electorate chose to knowingly remove the possibility of electing the (minimum) slightly less incompetent and venal candidate with whom they disagree with the least, by default choosing the greater Evil. Libertarians talk the good fight, but are enjoying the band playing as the last lifeboat pulls away. That sends a brutally clear message.

    Support Tyranny, vote Libertarian

    The worst example of this was Gillespie chortling on Kennedy after getting MacAuliffe elected in Virginia. How many illegal, anti-Libertarian, morally wrong things has he done SO FAR that no Republican (knowing the margin of victory was ALL Libertarian votes) would have done? I hit seven and I’m from Alabama! Yeah, we have or own problems, but we can blame ours on ignorant Bammers.

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  58. I have voted Libertarian in the last two elections. In this election I am voting Trump. The SCOTUS situation really demands it in my mind. Trump will at least, by his list, appoint federalists to the court. I did not hold my nose and vote Republican the last two elections and we got 8 years of progressives, not again.

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    1. Where are you getting the confidence to think that you can predict what Trump will do? He seems quite capricious to me. I’m genuinely interested/curious.

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  64. I don’t agree with your sentiment “If the Libertarian candidate gets say, 5 percent of the vote, then that clearly means that 5 percent of the voters chose a candidate that they KNEW had absolutely no chance of winning”. Why must we persist with the myth that they have no chance of winning? If enough people vote for them, they can win. We need to throw away these premonitions and vote for a candidate based on agreement with and confidence in them. With that out of the way, I enjoyed your piece – thanks for writing.

  65. This article should have a subheading: ” if your white straight man.” For everyone who falls outside of that category the lesser of two evils is incredibly important. Marriage equality can be rolled back 2 Supreme Court pics will be coming up they’re on there for life. Voting rights affirmative action and these issues matter. Healthcare and pro-choice legislation matters. It doesn’t matter who’s the president per se but it matters who that President puts on the Supreme Court more than it matters what happens on a day-to-day basis. This article is ridiculous and it said example of white privilege and if I can’t have my way I’m going to take my marbles and go home. If we had a responsibility to the Greater Community then we don’t always get what we want moving toward a greater goal.

  66. In the 2016 election, both major party candidates have personal and political baggage, for sure. However, they are both forces to be reckoned with.

    Don’t vote for the lesser of two evils. Vote AGAINST the candidate you think will screw up the country more or whose party platform is not in alignment with your own expectations.

    When you vote for a third-party candidate who won’t get elected due to being grossly outnumbered in the election, then you have no dog in the fight, so to speak. You have to live for four or eight years with a leader you can’t stand. That’s a total turnoff and counterproductive.

    Case in point, if people who voted for third-party candidate Ralph Nader in the 2000 election would’ve voted for one of the major party candidates, Al Gore, instead of George W. Bush, would’ve been in the White House. The ridiculous wars launched in Afghanistan and Iraq probably wouldn’t have occurred.

    So don’t be idealistic to the point of being ridiculous by voting for a third-party candidate that doesn’t have a chance of winning. Make your vote count to DEFEAT the candidate you think is least worthy of the highest office in the land.

    Be a PRAGMATIST and elect a candidate that you won’t freak out when hearing the title president before their name for the next four or eight years.

    Remember, you can always express your discontentment with the major party candidates by JOURNALING your feelings to get out your frustration, disappointment, and anger.

  67. In the 2016 election, both major party candidates have personal and political baggage, for sure. However, they are both forces to be reckoned with.

    Don’t vote for the lesser of two evils. Vote AGAINST the candidate you think will screw up the country more or whose party platform is not in alignment with your own expectations.

    When you vote for a third-party candidate who won’t get elected due to being grossly outnumbered in the election, then you have no dog in the fight, so to speak. You have to live for four or eight years with a leader you can’t stand. That’s a total turnoff and counterproductive.

    Case in point, if people who voted for third-party candidate Ralph Nader in the 2000 election would’ve voted for one of the major party candidates, Al Gore, instead of George W. Bush, would’ve been in the White House. The ridiculous wars launched in Afghanistan and Iraq probably wouldn’t have occurred.

    So don’t be idealistic to the point of being ridiculous by voting for a third-party candidate that doesn’t have a chance of winning. Make your vote count to DEFEAT the candidate you think is least worthy of the highest office in the land.

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    abraj

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