Bernie Sanders

Bernie Sanders Has Forced Hillary Clinton to Compete and Her Supporters Have Had Enough of It

Clinton's coronation continues to be delayed by an insurgent with different ideas on economics, the drug war, military interventionism.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders, the nominal Democrat whose two-and-a-half decade career as

To the bitter end.
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a registered Independent in Congress has essentially been a form of leftist protest of the Democratic Party, has declared his presidential candidacy will go all the way to the Democratic National Convention in July.

Politico reports Sanders told an audience at the National Press Club that Clinton "will need superdelegates to take her over the top at the convention in Philadelphia. In other words, it will be a contested convention." An NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll has the two candidates polling within the margin of error in Indiana, but because all Democratic primaries award delegates proportionally, Sanders needs to win over 60 percent of each primary the rest of the way to have any shot of matching Clinton's delegate totals.

He knows he's got little chance of overtaking former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton before the final primary in Washington DC on June 14, but Sanders continues to raise money ($26 million last month, according to CNN) for his insurgent campaign which even many hardcore Clinton supporters begrudgingly appreciate, to a point, for pushing Clinton "to the left" on economics. 

Those same Clinton supporters, however, also think Sanders has had his moment and that it's time for the democratic socialist from Vermont to stop "attacking" his only rival for the nomination or drop out entirely. Some Clinton supporters claim the party needs "unity" now, lest the presumptive nominee suffers any more public criticism that doesn't come from the mouth of Donald Trump. 

The Clinton camp continues to tout how much leg-work it did to support then-Sen. Barack Obama in 2008 once he was the nominee, but there seems to be a collective case of amnesia on how viciously Clinton's campaign fought Obama's down to the very last primary in 2008. In an article last week, Politico recalls Hillary Clinton saying as late as May of that knock-down, drag-out primary process that "Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening," and the article also notes that Bill Clinton reportedly used his presidential gravitas to try to convince superdelegates that "the country wasn't ready to elect an African-American President."

This isn't exactly the stuff that party unity is made of. The fact is, when it became clear that the delegate math was not in her favor, Clinton's once-formidible support among superdelegates dwindled, and she and her surrogates did everything they could to undermine Obama as an inexperienced outsider who would lose the general election.

Of course, not only did Obama handily defeat Sen. John McCain (R-Az.) in the general, he flipped some traditionally red states into the blue column, indicating the sustained attacks by the Clinton camp didn't seem to leave a scratch on him. 

Clinton was supremely confident she would be the nominee in 2008 and the Obama juggernaut was something she never saw coming. This time around, with Clinton's only serious competition coming from an elderly, charisma-free senator with a long but undistinguished career in Congress, the burden of having to actually compete for her own party's nomination is clearly infuriating to the Clinton camp. 

Supporters of Clinton will note that the race was tighter between Obama and Clinton than it is with Clinton and Sanders, which is true. But what is also true is that Obama and Clinton shared much more in common in both policy and political philosophy than Clinton and Sanders do. This is truly a competition of ideas, rather than personalities. 

Though he changed his long-time affiliation from Independent to Democrat last November, Sanders' has demonstrated little concern with party unity. Indeed, his candidacy has promised "revolution."

Sanders has no interest in preserving Clinton's Democratic Leadership Council-style centrism, he wants to reshape the Democratic Party into one that's outwardly hostile to the free market and substantially increases the welfare state, but also abandons the drug war once and for all (including the legalization of marijuana) and turns its back on the relentless appetite for military intervention (or as Clinton would call it, "smart power").

If Sanders' end game is to influence Democratic Party policy, he has little incentive to drop out now, even if Paul Krugman thinks "he's in the process of blowing his own chance for a positive legacy." Bowing out now surely earns Sanders a plum time slot at the Democratic National Convention, but given how many votes he's already earned — to say nothing of the enthusiasm of his supporters — he could demand that regardless. 

But Sanders' statement at the National Press Club this past weekend that he's "entitled to superdelegates" (specifically an amount of superdelegates that's proportional to the voting percentages he's won) indicates he wants to have it both ways. For all the influence his campaign may have affected on Clinton's, it's far too late to try to change the rules of a major party which he defiantly refused to identify himself with until he decided to run for president.

Superdelegates are a fact of Democratic Party life and specifically designed to keep insurgent candidacies at bay. For almost as long as Sanders has been a leftist thorn-in-the-side of the Democratic Party, Clinton has been a first lady, senator, secretary of state and power broker. She has cultivated the support of the party elites who are this year's superdelegates. If Sanders has designs on reforming that system, he'll have to save that intra-party revolution for another time. 

In the meantime, Clinton supporters shouldn't fear competing in the marketplace of ideas. Donald Trump will still be Donald Trump when the primaries are over.

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  1. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism I’m Ready for Hillary

    1. The same students that said FU Bush and treated him like crap, now demand speakers be banned from campus for “disrespecting Obama”

      1. The same students that said FU Bush and treated him like crap, now demand speakers be banned from campus for “disrespecting Obama”

        It strikes me as unlikely that they’ve been enrolled at their schools for over a decade.

        1. You’d be surprised.

          That’s why we need to pay their college tuition, so they can be children forever and never grow up and face the real world

        2. It strikes me as unlikely that they’ve been enrolled at their schools for over a decade

          Theater Studies is a lot of studies.

        3. It takes awhile to get that coveted Doctorate in Puppetry.

      2. In all honesty if they were college students during the Bush administration, they should have all graduated by now.

        1. Grad school is a thing, you know.

          One particularly infested with SJWs.

          There probably are some who fall into esteve’s category.

          1. We used to call them “gradual students”.

        2. yeah, but who are we kidding? They’re kindred spirits. Lumping them all together just saves time.

          1. Collectivist!

  2. Are we going to see two contested conventions?

    1. The GOP convention isn’t likely to be contested at this point, given that Indiana is likely to fall to the Imperium of Trump today.

      Not sure how far Sanders will try to push for one. My guess is that he’ll drop out long before, for sake of blah blah party unity or some such. But the old man could surprise us.

      1. Protest is all he’s got. He’s got nothing to lose.

        1. Protest, and a hope for either an indictment or a massive FBI leak.

          1. I think he has his eye on the VP slot. What a great ticket it would be. An old neocon crony and an angry old commie.

            1. Great insurance policy for her.

              1. You underestimate the socialists.

            2. man, I was really looking forward to never having to listen to bernie sanders again. why do you want to ruin that for me?

          2. Protest, and a hope for either an indictment or a massive FBI leak.

            I agree on the FBI angle; he just needs to stay on the remaining ballots in case indictment drops.

  3. What is Sanders thinking? You don’t necessarily need a choice of two Democrats when children are hungry in this country.

    1. It’s going to be a choice between two Democrats in any event: either the democratic socialist from Vermont or the crony Democrat from Arkansas, and Trump.

    2. He’s entitled to just as many delegates as Hillary has. It’s only fair.

      1. He’s entitled to just as many delegates as Hillary has. It’s only fair.

        Bah. Hillary is 1-percenter in delegate-wealth; marginal rate of 70% off the top is good start addressing this injustice.

    3. And you only need one choice in pantsuits, the gray one.

        1. That’s a disturbing image. Imagine seeing that for the next 8 years *shudder*

          1. And not just her. Every middle-aged woman in America will be wearing them.

            1. And maybe some of the younger ones. Sorry, straight guys.

              1. Sexbot demand goes through the roof!

                1. Hello, VR pr0n zombies!

            2. And not just her. Every middle-aged woman in America will be wearing them.

              I feel light-headed.

            3. That’ll make a great rainbow flag.

              1. I read that as “rainbow sag”.

        2. On my last bite of salmon, thanks.

          1. Nobody cares what you’re eating.

            1. Eating? I thought that was another euphemism!

              1. “Slamming the salmon”

                1. Fondling the flounder.

            2. I was saying Boo-urns!

        3. ROYGBIV, indeed.

  4. Clinton’s coronation continues to be delayed by an insurgent with different ideas on economics, the drug war, military interventionism.

    But only 7% different.

    1. Don’t read the comments.

        1. I warned you. I’m your friend here.

          1. Hard to trickle down when the money gets parked in investments or leaves the country.

            That’s my favorite. “Parked in investments.”

            1. “Investing” just means pouring more gold coins into the swimming pool, right?

            2. The economic ignorance is simply stunning.

  5. Bernie’s just biding his time until H gets indicted.

    1. Meanwhile, Biden is bernieing his time.

      1. Berning, berning his time

    2. Don’t matter. Once she wins the election she can pardon herself.

    3. I don’t get why Bernie’s so agitated. He might as well tell the superdelegates to go fuck themselves; they’re never going to support him; he’s not a Democrat and he knows it.

      All he has to do is remind Hellary that a third of his supporters have already committed to either write him in or vote for other candidates in November. She’s already said she won’t even try to win those votes (because she’s an arrogant, overentitled c*nt), and he’s already said, “you want ’em, you gotta earn them.” Which she couldn’t do even if she tried, because the pantsuited reptile can’t even make two statements in a row that are based in truth and fact.

      If a third of his supporters follow through on their threats, and stay home, vote the Green or Libertarian ticket, or write him in, she can’t win. They won’t win, but neither will she. She’s got the MSM screaming hysterically and calling Sanders and his base of angry hippies every name in the book, and they’re going to keep it up until July, but it just makes the angry hippies laugh and dig in their heels harder.

  6. Sanders told an audience at the National Press Club that Clinton “will need superdelegates to take her over the top at the convention in Philadelphia. In other words, it will be a contested convention.”

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    1. There will be rioting. I don’t know if you’re an old-enough old man to remember the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, but the 2016 convention is going to make that look like a church social.

      1. I think the rioting will be at the Republican Convention. We’re already seeing it.

        Its one thing when your own constituents riot at your convention, like in Chicago 1968. That kills your campaign.

        When your consituents riot at the other guy’s convention, I think that’s going to kill your campaign as well.

        In short, when your supporters riot, you lose.

        1. Riots for everyone!

          1. A riot is an ugly thing….und, I think that it is just about time that we had one!

          2. Riots for some, miniature American flags for others!

        2. Read ’em the Riot Act at the opening of each convention.

          1. If only we still had a Riot Act.

            Reading the Riot Act was basically a final warning. After it was read, whatever was done to anyone on the streets by the King’s Men was A-OK.

        3. I can’t find it now, but there was an article on a conservative website yesterday, set up as if written in 2041 for the 25th anniversary of Trump winning the 2016 election. One of the reasons was a riot at the Republican convention. The author had Trump declaring this as another sign that Democrats can’t control the crazies and so they were unfit to hold power.

          1. I think it’s becoming very apparent to most people that the Democrats have already lost control of their crazies.

            1. The GOP crazies are worming their way out of the woodwork.

              At least the libertarian crazies are just aspy nerds with very narrowly tailored interests.

              1. It looks more like the Democrats have lost so much control that their voters are leaving for Trump in droves. Of course, the voters they’re losing probably haven’t voted in a long time, but when they did vote they voted Democrat!

        4. Yeah. All the democrats were saying that they wanted to run against Trump. Well, now they’re getting their wish and they shit their pants and lose it. Not a winning strategy for sure.

        5. Definitely at the Republican convention since that occurs before the Democratic convention. Will be interesting to see if there’s enough momentum left for those folks to riot in Philadelphia.

          Since the D conventions starts four days after the R convention ends, it is possible that many of the rioters will still be imprisoned or under pre-trial supervision (restrictions on travel, monitoring cuffs, etc) for the second convention. Could take some of the wind out of their sails.

          1. I don’t think the nutbar wing of the Dem party is going to run out of idiots. Unless they are bought off (and I don’t see how), they’ll manage a showing in Philadephia.

      2. God I hope so; I was 12 at the time and remember it like yesterday: gangs of delegates in shoving matches, Jane Fonda giving a speech [“we must defeat Richard Nixon”], the first openly gay delegate, and hari krishnas doing their thing and chanting in the street along with all the rioters and Daley’s police force in action.

        Televisions best moment, and the Democrats worst.

        1. +1 Pigasus

          1. ^This. Thank you, Citizen.

            1. I never know what the hell you guys are +ing and ^ing about, in your own cryptic code. Not that it matters.

              1. Pigasus was a 145-pound (66-kg) domestic pig that was nominated for President of the United States as a theatrical gesture by the Youth International Party (Yippies).

              2. Like Darmuk and Gelad at Tenagra, when the walls came down.

                1. Shaka feel for you.

              3. Google is your friend.

        2. So, kind of like the Chelsea/Tottenham game yesterday.

      3. I don’t know if you’re an old-enough old man to remember the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago

        Indeed. I was 13-14 at the time and absolutely loved the spectacle. I can only hope and pray for a rerun.

        1. Yes, you are old.

          1. I hope that you will never again doubt my veracity.

            1. Older than me. That’s really fucking old. 😉

              1. Finally, someone older than me.

            2. Is it really candy, though?

              1. Werther’s original probably

        2. I wasn’t old enough. My only memory from the ’68 election was seeing George Wallace on the TV giving a speech.

          These days, 80% of the people under the age of 40 who recognize his name at all would probably say he was a Republican.

        3. I was a bit too young. My first memory of politics was Nixon resigning.

          Even at 10 years old, I knew Carter was a mistake though.

          *sigh* It gives an entirely new perspective to ‘Are you smarter than a fifth-grader?’

  7. Why does Bernie look so angry all of the time? I thought that communism is fun.

    1. He’s angry because of the false consciousness that keeps us from embracing socialism.

      1. He’s angry for the same reason I’m angry. He thinks socialism is good for the country and most people disagree. Frustrating. I think Liberty is good for the country and most people disagree. Frustrating.

            1. You’ve got to know that there’s fun to be had!

        1. Well said, and I agree.

        2. You should be more angry than Bernie then, by a large margin.

          1. I meander between total rage and hopeless apathy.

            1. I’m pretty sure this is the norm for any person who cares about liberty.

            2. Is it that sad-faced, slouchy, half-assed millennial meandering? Men meandered like men back in my day.

              1. Men meandered like men back in my day.

                With a bindle?

              2. I know. I miss a good saunter, myself.

        3. And places like Venezuela are doing him no favors.

          1. But we’re not going to be like that. We’re going to be Sweden! A country of less than 10 million Scandanavians. I don’t know how that works, but the Bernie kids must understand it.

            1. And, judging by the outsized economic success of Swedes living in the US, a fairly robust work ethic. But let’s never mind how in hell we’re going to compel a country with something like ~50% net tax participation to fork over enough money to pay for Swedish-style welfare, given that we already have a sizable class of dependents and people netting more in benefits than they pay in taxes.

              1. The sizable class of dependents. For some reason, that part never gets into the “we should be more like Sweden/Denmark/whoever conversation.

                1. One thing we have to do to be more like Sweden is get rid of white people.

            2. Can I get my own Viking Commie longboat?

              1. No one needs a longboat, children are starving.

            3. We’re going to be Sweden!

              I’m just waiting for Trump to say he wants the same policy on Muslim immigration as Denmark now has.

          2. And places like Venezuela are doing him no favors.

            Low oil prices. Low oil prices. Low oil prices.

      2. keeps us from embracing socialism.

        This too shall pass.

  8. “Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening,”

    Wow. Probably the most racist thing a candidate has said in public in quite some time.

    Naturally, the Usual Suspects saw nothing objectionable with it.

    1. That and “America is not ready for a black president…who should be carrying our bags and getting us coffee.”

      Nothing, Zip. Nada.

      Of course Bill was the actual “first black president,” or so I have been told.

  9. If Hillary only manages to win because of the huge allocation of Super Delegates, as in even with the extra delegates she only barely gets over the mark, the Bernie supporters will revolt. The democrat party will lose the youth vote.

    1. It’s funny how those types always get caught up in a cult of personality, yet never learn. How did “hope and change” work out for you?

      Not so good? That’s okay because we have this new and improved “Hope and Change” from Sanders! Double the Hopey and Triple The Change!

      / Waiting for a train that never comes

      1. You underestimate the power of self-delusion. On derpbook there are plenty of memes going around “proving” that the economy, foreign policy, unemployment, etc. etc. under Obama have vastly improved and everything is just wonderful. And we need to elect another Democrat so the Rethuglikkkans can’t undo all the wonderfullness.

        1. ^This. But while some of it is self-delusion among people who (should) know better, there are many people who are economically illiterate and actually believe that stuff.

    2. I think the Democrats are already going to lose the youth vote, at least the Bernie kids. They hate Hillary and just will stay home. No way she turns out the youth vote like Obama did. Of course the GOP won’t get that either. But I think Hillary is actually beating Bernie fairly, even though there’s no bottom to how low she would stoop to get the nomination, I just don’t think she needs to cheat to beat Bernie.

      1. Nixon didn’t need to cheat either, look how that turned out. I think to a certain kind of person, you gotta game the system because you have to believe the other guy’s gaming the system, because that’s what you’d do if you were in the other guys shoes.

        1. Those are mostly lame reasons. Except for the 2nd amendment thing and I’m really unclear how good either of them are on that. Just that they’re both likely better than Hillary. There’s also the military intervention thing, which both of them seem better on than Hillary, which isn’t mentioned there. Then the anti-trade thing, that’s scary and the one thing that Hillary might actually be more reasonable on, although probably for all the wrong reasons.

    3. Doesn’t Hillary have something like 2-2.5 million more popular votes than Bernie at the moment?

      1. Not sure the numbers, but she’s winning the popular vote. So I don’t think the Bernie bots have much of a case here.

        1. Thanks, so an even bigger lead for Clinton and Trump that I guessed. Bernie supporters’ claim that the DNC process circumvents the ‘will of people’ seems very misplaced.

          1. He’s not wrong when you consider the function of Superdelegates.

  10. Many of those superdelegates are elected officials will also be running for reelection in their own campaigns this fall. It will be interesting to see if the Sanders campaign can put any pressure on those delegates in the states which went for Sanders in a big way. He could use some of those dollars to run ads that name names and expose the back room operators to the voters. That is the only leverage that such an outsider could muster, but it could be a factor if exploited.
    While there is no way that I am actually *for* Sanders, I must say that I am less against him than I am Hillary or Trump. And I would just love to see that fake smile wiped off of her hideous face!

    1. I presume that anyone well-connected enough to be a superdelegate is smart enough to realize that Sanders could never win in the general election. They will vote for whoever is most likely to win the general election so as to ride her coattails and preserve their own power.

  11. Seriously – can Reason stop pretending that Bernie wants to end the war on drugs (he’s only signed up on marijuana, last I checked) and that he’s a non-intervenionist?

    Frankly, Bernie’s track record even on these two problems isn’t much different than Trump’s.

    1. Oh come on! Just because when he was a mayor, he tried to ally his city with the Sandanistas and boasted of “having his own foreign policy”, you doubt his non-interventionist cred?!?

      1. Don’t forget his bullishness on Bombing Serbia

    2. Bernie’s smarter than you think. He’s going to end the drug war and the interventionism all in one fell swoop with his economic policies. We won’t have money for drugs or a military.

      1. That… is just crazy and irresponsible enough to work! #BernItAllDown

      2. We won’t have money for drugs or a military.

        He’s just a few trillion dollar coins away from having all the moneys.

  12. I’ve thought about this quite a bit. And the conclusion I’ve come to is that Bernie is not that popular and not that good of a candidate. It’s just that Hillary is so god awful. If it were anyone else, say Biden, or another Obama, Hillary would get crushed, it would already be over. I’ve talked to quite a few democrats, which is sort of hard not to do since I’m surrounded by them on all sides, and I have yet to find anyone who seems excited about Hillary. They are either Bernie supporters or they say something to the effect of ‘well, I don’t like Hillary, but she’s still better than Republicans’. Really, has anyone ever been elected POTUS with that low of appeal? I think she’s going to lose to the Trumpster. Get ready to pay a lot more for consumer goods, and for your grandma to be deported.

    1. …and for your grandma to be deported.

      Good. I hate that bitch.

    2. There is no silver lining in the coming shit storm. I’m thinking total media blackout (racist!) to get through the next 4 years.

          1. *clinks with glass of rye*

          2. *tips up bottle of mezcal*

        1. *Downs bottle of whiskey

          1. …and sleeping pills.

    3. Hilary’s main problem is that she plays the gender card constantly instead of playing to the liberal-values base. There’s no doubt that Obama beat Hilary in the primaries because of his skin color, but he rarely played the race card himself. His supporters and his campaigners did, but he himself did not. He never said “It’s time for a black person”, he said “It’s time to look past race.” Of course he was a bald-faced liar, but in primaries you have to play to the delusions of your base. But Hilary can’t bring herself to say “It’s time to look past gender.” Especially because if you do, you see nothing but corruption. So she HAS to play the gender card, even if a significant portion of the base thinks it’s a stupid approach. Obama was an empty suit, Hilary is a well known lawsuit.

      Bernie’s running on liberal-values, as blinkered as they are, and Hilary hardly ever has. The Dem base is NOT SJW’s, it’s mostly union entitlement thugs. Bernie and Trump play to that base better than Hilary. She is a weak candidate and would have lost to McCain.

      1. Hillary’s main problem is that she’s a terrible campaigner.

        Who responds to the accusation that she’s playing the woman card, by passing out actual woman cards to her supporters?

  13. …he wants to reshape the Democratic Party into one that’s outwardly hostile to the free market and substantially increases the welfare state, but also abandons the drug war once and for all (including the legalization of marijuana) and turns its back on the relentless appetite for military intervention (or as Clinton would call it, “smart power”).

    You’re going to get half of all of that with a President Sanders. Guess which half.

    1. I don’t think these socialists understand that revenue thing they’re all so obsessed about. You double the minimum wage and you increase regulation to draconian levels to save the planet, and they think this is going to result in more revenue?

      1. They don’t, their not stupid.

        But their supporters are stupid, and do believe this.

        It’s how you get idiots that believe increasing the minimum wage means people have more money to spend and it will stimulate the economy

        1. *They’re, stupid hangover

        2. If I remember correctly, Moonbeam came right out and admitted that raising the minimum wage in Cali was going to result in a lot less jobs and that it was bad economic policy. Then he went ahead and signed it into law anyway. I suppose his supporters were oblivious to it all.

          1. It’s moral to disemploy poor people for their own good.

      2. Of course they don’t. To be a socialist is to be willfully ignorant of economics.

  14. Good piece.

    1. That’s what she said.

  15. Hillary: “Your powers are weak, old man.”

    Bernie: “You can’t win, Hillary. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.”

    1. Trump: Mesa cause one, two-y little bitty axadentes, huh? Yud say boom de gasser, den crashin der bosses heyblibber, den banished.

      1. That would make Trump a secret Sith warrior (according to the fan theory I prefer).

        Interesting.

  16. I am going to do some historical research into how people survived, and prospered in severe economic downturns.
    This situation looks totally fucked boys.

    1. Rhett Butler recommends smuggling.

    2. It is called prostitution.

    3. I was thinking a small, out-of-the way farm would be the way to go. And a lot of guns in the safe.

      1. Yeah, because that worked out so well for the Branch Davidians.

        1. I would go for a lower profile and keep the slave-wives in the basement.

    4. From what I can tell about severe economic dislocations, there’s been no substitute for having actual specie on hand.

      The more liquidity you can carry through the dislocation, the better off you will be.

      There’s some books out there (can’t dredge them up) about surviving the serial fuckups in Argentina that are pretty insightful.

  17. This just shows how stupid invested I am in this stupid popularity contest between stupid candidates. I wandered into the processing room just now and overheard a conversation between two of the girls that went something like this: “…I don’t think she’s going to win, but I like her. She has a beautiful voice.” I just stopped and gaped. Okay, sure, you like what Hillary represents or the promises she makes, but idolizing her for her voice? Are you fucking kidding me? It’s probably her worst asset. She sounds tired, shrill, and utterly insincere. Only a partisan lunatic could find something charming about Hillary’s voice.

    Turns out they were talking about American Idol or something.

    1. But that cackle is charming, no?

      1. At least she’s not yipping.

        1. She cackles, she coughs, she lies, she barks like a dog. What is not to love?

          1. She’s the fun, besotted auntie you never wished you had!

  18. At least they are being somewhat civilized to old Bernie. Meanwhile my favorite insurgent is being given a bit of the forging process

  19. OT: Update on bus hate crime. Yeah, it wasn’t. Are they ever real?

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/02/…..index.html

    1. And this won’t even phase the outrage machine. The very next time someone comes out with an outrageous accusation of a hate crime or gang rape, they will all jump right on it without even trying to verify any of it. Just the same as always, nothing learned at all.

    2. The three women pleaded not guilty in February to charges of assault and harassment. Two of them also pleaded not guilty to charges of falsely reporting the incident.

      Playing that 9-1-1 call in front of the jury should get them on the latter.

      1. So i was just listening to the 911 call out of curiosity.

        The thing you notice? has nothing to do with the details of her claims (which don’t even come up for quite a while) but rather the snippy-bitch-tits-attitude being tossed around.

        In the middle of her 911 call she interrupts speaking to the emergency responder to chat with friends… and when the guy is like “hey do you mind focusing here so we can get this straightened out?” she gets all bitchy like, “Uhm, you weren’t still talking so like whatever”…. and continues to fight about it as though she’s doing them all a favor & casually rambles on about irrelevant stuff.

        And THEN, when she’s finally passed on to the correct police-department (who has heard absolutely nothing on the call up until that point) she unloads on him about how “Uhm, look like if this isn’t dealt with the right way I’m just going to call the News because ….” and he has no fucking idea what she’s even talking about yet.

        She sounds half-drunk and on-her-period-self-righteous. She’s all like “I can’t even” because Emergency people are trying to get “Facts” out of her like ‘where’ and ‘when’ and “what” etc. and all she wants to do is complain.

        I actually find the post-hanging-up chat between emergency guys far more interesting. People who answer 911 calls for a living must be really fun to have a few beers with.

    3. Just STFU, Listen, and Believe.

      My prog friend was going off on how a player was accused of sexual assault and still on the team.

      “So he wasn’t convicted”….”no”

      “Then he’s not guilty, what’s the problem?”

      “Well you know in this country we have a history of blah blah blah marginalized blah blah blah”

      “Yeah but you are innocent until proven guilty”

      ….

      Seriously progs are a disease

      1. Considering they want to rescind due process as a basic legal premise, it’s not surprising if presumptive innocence is next on the chopping block. “You have been accused, young man. How do you defend yourself against the charge?”

        1. The fucktards have such a lack of awareness and a lack of history.

          Listen and Believe was tried before

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        2. Presumptive innocence is on the chopping block right now. “Affirmative consent” puts the burden of proof on the defendant in rape trials.

          1. Yep, the idiot progs are going to succeed in the thing at which the hard Christian types have been failing for decades. The progs are going to end the sexual revolution, and take us back to the 50’s…the 1850’s.

            Some people must have ‘BREATHE’ tattooed on the inside of their eyelids in case they forget to do it.

    4. Students held a rally and university President Robert J. Jones said in a letter to students and faculty that he was “deeply concerned, saddened and angry about this incident.” Others came to their defense on social media using the hashtag #DefendBlackGirlsUAlbany. The People of Color Caucus issued a letter in support of them.

      LOL

      The only thing missing was an appearance at the White House.

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  21. RE: ? Bernie Sanders Has Forced Hillary Clinton to Compete and Her Supporters Have Had Enough of It
    Clinton’s coronation continues to be delayed by an insurgent with different ideas on economics, the drug war, military interventionism.

    Damn those Comrade Bernie Supporters to hell!
    Don’t they realize another day Heil Hitlery is not appointed to be dictator for life in Amerika is another day she has to wait?
    Everyone knows her royal highness hates to wait.
    Heads will roll.

  22. The amount of support that the geriatric commie rat bastard has obtained shows that there is some realization, however dim, within the Democrat faction of the Ruling Party that Hillary is a horrible human being, and a poor choice as a presidential candidate.

    -jcr

    1. You give them too much credit. It shows that nearly half the democratic party has embraced socialism and is completely devoid of any historical memory whatsoever.

      They may as well rename themselves the Syriza party at this point.

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  41. Bernie’s there to show how bad the Democratic Party and, for that matter, the 2-Party system is, just as Trump is there to show how bad the Republican Party is. The better that Bernie does, the worse that Hillary looks, especially if she has to rely on the superdelegates or party shenanigans to win the nomination.

    The problem is that even Bernie the Socialist isn’t radical enough. Hillary and even Trump are much more like Bernie than anyone’s willing to admit, in spite of appearances. Bernie’s campaign doesn’t show how moderate Hillary is, but instead shows how illiberal and unmoderate she really is.

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