Cops Freak Out over Man's Unloaded, Disassembled, Handgun, Assault Him, Lawsuit Claims
Alabama man is also suing Utah cops for violating his Second Amendment rights


It appears hoplophobia is alive and well even among that class of people, cops, that hoplophobes, or those with an irrational fear of guns, would like to limit gun ownership to.
60-year-old Harold Torbett, of Alabama, is suing police in Ogden City, Utah, over an incident that happened in February. According to Torbett, he stopped at the Ogden Police Department during a cross-country trip from Alabama to Seattle, seeking medical assistance, as The Standard-Examiner reports.
Torbett said he had a complication of his diabetes that caused stomach pain and mental confusion. At the department, Torbett said he unloaded and disassembled his handgun, leaving it in the chair next to him while waiting for cops.
The lawsuit claims cops got rough with Torbett when they saw his handgun and that one officer threw him the ground, breaking his hip. That officer, according to the lawsuit, had asked Torbett, "Do I look like I take people to the hospital?" when Torbett explained he was seeking medical attention, and attacked him when he tried to leave the station.
The lawsuit also argues police violated Torbett's Second Amendment rights as well as the state constitutional right to open carry.
Police argued Torbett was being noncompliant and accused him of throwing soda water on cops, and said after the incident that they had decided he posed a danger to himself or others due to his behavior. "He fights with them, and they're doing everything they can t control him," a police spokesperson said in February. Police say they aren't commenting on the case anymore because of the litigation.
Police said in February the incident was being investigated and that the county attorney's office would determine possible charges against Torbett for disorderly conduct and resisting officers, as well as weapons charges because he did not have a concealed carry-permit. The county attorney told The Standard-Examiner he had no record of charges ever being filed with his office.
There is security footage of the incident, but it's described as grainy and blurry, with the police chief saying they've installed a new camera in the lobby since then. Among the lawsuit's demands is that police in Ogden begin to wear body cameras. Police have been testing three different types for the last two years, and the police chief said they wanted to "make the right decision."
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It appears that hoplophobia, the irrational fear of guns, is alive and well even among the people to whom hoplophobes would like to limit gun ownership.
Baboons.
With guns.
Taking over.
One by one.
Baboons with guns.
Easy does it easy does it.
There is security footage of the incident, but it's described as grainy and blurry, with the police chief saying they've installed a new camera in the lobby since then.
Has anyone other than law enforcement seen this video evidence? I think it would be described as crystal clear if it substantiated anything police have claimed.
Police have been testing three different types for the last two years, and the police chief said they wanted to "make the right decision."
That decision being: none.
Police argued Torbett was being noncompliant and accused him of throwing soda water on cops,
"So we threw him on the ground and broke his hip. I mean, what else could we have done?"
Just a guess, but "throwing soda water" was probably the result of being upended and thrown to the ground.
Good point. They'll probably bring charges against him for defacing public property by getting his blood on the floor too.
Don't forget the mental and emotional trauma he caused these brave officers to endure as they were defending themselves from his noncompliance.
Thou shalt not deface or defile the colors of the king or of His men, scoundrel!
Be fair. The only thing that gets soda water out of clothes is club soda.
He probably had a cup of soda water* in his hand and spilled some on the pig who tackled him.
*who the fuck drinks soda water?
Old school Jewish New Yorkers, in my experience.
Hardened criminals, in other words.
From your lips to Lansky's ears.
I didn't know you could get soda water without gin and sour mix. The more you know...
Why anyone would want it without gin and lemon is another question...
*who the fuck drinks soda water?
An older guy with an upset stomach.
I thought that's what ginger ale was for.
Try finding ginger ale in Ogden
That officer
Do you think, if a customer or random pedestrian walked into a Wal-Mart and one of the employees broke their hip, they would get the 'That employee' anonymity treatment?
So, S.E. will out Officer T. Williams as the alleged body slam artist while Reason remains mum? Shame on you Reason.
I'd let S.E out me any day.
Well, yeah, they've got to make sure they choose the one that's easiest to disable.
or which company provides the largest kickback?
The one with the big, absurdly loose i/o toggle on the back. "It switched itself off right before we started shooting."
Police have been testing three different types for the last two years,
Should take a month. Buy a half-dozen of each, give them to a different squad, compare results after a month, place order for the winner.
If a hospital can trial and buy hundreds of new IV pumps in a matter of weeks, why can't a police department do the same for body cameras?
We did it with bar code scanners for the warehouse. Two weeks and a decision.
Two years ? Must have something to do with incentives.
You missed the part where the ogden police are a bunch of assholes. I was at the Hampton Inn in Ogden about a year ago and saw half the police force walk in and treat themselves to the free for guests breakfast and newspapers.
Meanwhile, on "historic 25th street" they managed to get the eye of salmon cameras up over 1 weekend. When it comes to watching the plebs, they quick at choosing "the right one".
Correction "corrupt assholes"
[The cops] said after the incident that they had decided he posed a danger to himself or others due to his behavior.
"He walked in here and acted like he was just as good as any of us. The man's plainly a mental case. We body slammed the dumb bastard for his own protection."
A prole with a gun in a police station. Guy has no idea the risk he was taking.
Alabama man? Probably deserved it.
Cops don't take people to the hospital. That would be serving and protecting. No, they send people to the hospital. And morgue.
Then they add insult to injury by sending the bereaved a bill.
The only way that makes sense is if he was so disoriented he mistook it for a hospital.
Worse, he mistook it for a safe haven.
The man is 60 years old, probably still thinks of Andy Griffith when he thinks of cops
He would have been better off stopping any random passerby and asking for help, obviously. That's what random passersby are for, right? Helping people in distress.
It happens when police and fire/ems are housed in the same building, or, are thought to be.
Or, if you have been conditioned to believe the police are magical creatures the can fix any issue.
This is what happens when you go to the cops for help.
"The county attorney told The Standard-Examiner he had no record of charges ever being filed with his office."
So we're asked to believe that, two months ago, a guy attacked the cops and and disturbed the peace, and the prosecutor still hasn't decided whether to file charges?