Brickbat: Neither Snow Nor Rain Nor Heat …


Mail truck
Credit: CarbonNYC [in SF!] / flickr

U.S. Postal Service carrier Glen Grays was making his rounds in Brooklyn when a car almost sideswiped him as he stepped out of his mail truck. He shouted at the driver. Bad move. The car pulled back and the driver told him he was a cop. Then the driver and three other plainclothes police officers in the car with him stepped out, handcuffed Grays and arrested him for disorderly conduct. 

NEXT: A Better Choice for 2016

Editor's Note: We invite comments and request that they be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time. Report abuses.

  1. Looks like this postman almost got his bell rung twice.

    1. You forgot to pause and put on Fist's sunglasses.

      1. God, don't remind people of that.

  2. Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.

    But to POS cops, well........ getting the mail delivered really is a low priority, not when you have a chance to use some needless coercion.

    1. Apparently the USPS is investigating the matter, I'd love to see the Feds and the NYPD get into a pissing match over this. Get the cops for interfering with the mail or some such.

      1. And,of course,these where under cover cops.Meaning drug warriors.These types have been shown to be the most corrupt type over and over again.

        1. This follow up article claims that they were in a unit that is expected to be in uniform.

          1. Sounds like they want to make their own rules.Driving around in plain clothes,looking for trouble.'Gangs of Ney York'?

            1. hey, honest mistake. you can't hold police officers to superhuman standards. that wouldnt be fair

      2. It would be nice, but it won't happen. Law enforcement and prosecutors at all levels are too friendly with each other. The investigation will result in nothing more than overtime, travel comp, a few nice meals on per diem and dropped charges.

        1. Yeah I know, but a guy can dream.

          1. Its like buying a lottery ticket, you're not buying a chance to win (you wont win). You are buying a right to dream.

        2. Just like in Law & Order.

  3. About Mr. Grays's encounter, the Police Department said only that the matter was "under internal review," in an email response to queries.

    Email? Insult to injury.

  4. Heroes.

    1. Now if only they can figure out how to get the mail in the right boxes so we don't constantly have envelopes sitting atop the aparment mailbox waiting for the recipient to claim them.

  5. "I'm almost always on the side of the police. But this case looks really wrong; if it turns out to be what it looks like then it will be an absolulte outrage if these police officers are not fired. They appear to have nothing but a power trip and don't belong in positions of authority.


    THAT'S why cops continue to be abusive while there's no incentive to improve. People are on their side.

    1. They appear to have nothing but a power trip and don't belong in positions of authority.

      What most people don't understand is that that is the rule, not the exception.

      1. I've almost always been on the side of the police. Really, all public workers.

        Ever since I was a little doe-eyed lad, eagerly sitting in my first grade public school class, with my teacher explaining the American flag and the awesomeness of presidents' day, I had nothing but admiration and respect for the government that takes care of all of us, really.

        Those brave souls forgo the riches of corporate life for one of public service. Could they have anything but good intensions, really?

        Sure, there are a few bad ones, but there are always a few bad apples in the bunch. Nothing's perfect. But, isn't government usually more perfect? Because, voting?

        I've felt really good about it ever since I was 5 years old, and I have no plans of stopping now.

        1. Supersarcolicios

          1. I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of sacasmometers suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

    2. actually a little behind and to the left (to be clear of the spatter)

  6. The police shut down the highway through Austin yesterday mid day. I think it was a funeral. I've never understood that tradition.

    1. "If you think you're inconvenienced, how do you think the dead guy feels - now he's got to vote Democrat"

    2. They shut down the town I work in last week for one of these juggernauts. Four thousand cops or something for a cop who wasn't even on duty when he was killed by a wrong way driver. But gawd forbid you suggest that this has gotten out of control.

      This country needs to get over this continuous mourning, run the flags back up the pole 100% of the time unless there is a true major national loss, and get on with life.

      1. You can't keep up with the half-mast flags. Usually, I don't know why they're half mast, and if I ask someone why, they don't know either.

      2. I was just looking for data on this the other day. If the flag is at half mast more than at full mast, it kind of defeats the point.

        1. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one noticing this.

      3. I think it's convenient, like how you know you can stop paying attention when there's no road sign warning you about what's going to happen in the next 20 feet

  7. "Mr. Grays prides himself..."

    ^^^ this was done on purpose.

  8. Best case scenario. All out shooting war between cops and usps drivers. No survivors.

  9. I thought federal agents had immunity from local criminal justice proceedings aimed at actions taken in the discharge of their duties. If Lon Horiuchi couldn't even be prosecuted for homicide for gunning down Vicki Weaver (, how can this postman be prosecuted, or even arrested, for telling a cop to stop jeopardizing federal employees and the general public?

    In fact, why aren't the cops facing federal charges under 18 U.S.C. ?1701?

    1. Actually, there has been some talk of prosecuting the cops for obstructing the mails. I doubt it will happen, since the same rules don't apply to cops that apply to little guys, but we can hope...

  10. It's not like it could even be a matter of failure to respect ma authoritah, because they were plainclothed in an unmarked car.

  11. U.S. Postal Service carrier Glen Grays was making his rounds in Brooklyn when a car almost sideswiped him as he stepped out of his mail truck.

    Mail trucks here have right-hand drive. If the cops sideswiped Grays as he was getting out of his mail truck, were the cops passing him on the right?

    Were they driving on the sidewalk?

  12. What the video does not show, Mr. Grays said, is what happened next, after he was placed in the back seat of the unmarked car, with his hands cuffed and without a seatbelt, compelling him to leave the mail truck unattended. The driver, who had turned around to taunt him, hit the vehicle in front of them, Mr. Grays said, causing him to bang his shoulder against the front seat.

    Looks like the cops did more than interfere with the mail ? distracted driving, failure to maintain control, maybe hit and run/leaving the scene of an accident?

  13. Maybe the postman would not have been arrested if he'd shown proper respect, like: "Oh, Officer, I beg your pardon! I'm sorry I didn't know that your reckless driving was in the public service. Thank you for almost running me down!"

Please to post comments

Comments are closed.