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The final four face off at the Fox News GOP debate in Detroit
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The fearsome foursome of Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and John Kasich take the stage at 9 p.m. tonight in Detroit. The debate will be moderated by Fox News' Bret Baier, Megyn Kelly, and Chris Wallace.
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STFU and VOTE TRUMP
Trump: not even once.
what if i say no?
VOTE OR DIE
My prediction: nudity.
You know who else was nude under his clothes?
Tobias Funke?
Thank you! You won just because you’re the only one who could bother to play.
-1 Umlaut
I don’t know how to do the damn thing with an ipad
You kids and your tiny sort-of computers.
Great author. I’ve only recently come to fully appreciate The Man Inside Me.
Ok, here he is…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XtW6HW8jO_U
Popcorn…G&T…
Let the shit-show begin.
Is Megyn Kelly riding the cotton pony?
OT joke:
Hitler’s favorite breakfast?
Luftwaffles.
I read that as Hillary at first, still works
FBI Director’s favorite breakfast?
Apple Turnovers.
Respectful? Of these assholes?
HAHAHAHA!
So how would you respond to my roommate who wants to leave the country because he’s afraid for his safety (he’s Brown). Real threat or overblown?
Also what are the chances Trump *actually* wins the general?
If Clinton doesn’t go to prison?
50/50
What are the chances Clinton goes to prison?
50/50
So, I’d my maths are right… There is a hundred percent chance that we’re fucked.
Was there ever any question?
Numbers don’t lie.
Someone is feeling optimistic tonight
If she doesn’t…this little experiment is over.
She won’t…this little experiment has run its course. Corruption will conquer all.
I’m afraid you’re right, and that gives me an incredible feeling of deep sadness, almost as bad as when I lost my wife. The US was something special, once.
“”he’s afraid for his safety (he’s Brown)””
I think you should insist he flee to El Salvador until the coast is clear.
Tell him it’s no use leaving the country, Trump will just send a killer drone after him.
Your question made me curious, so I picked up my dictionary to look at the definition of “overblown.” Sure enough, there’s a picture of your roommate there.
Is my picture still next to the definition of Casanova???
No, it’s next to “delusional”.
Lucky guy
I didn’t think there was such a thing as too much head.
one of those move to canada types. Also he’s SJW for whatever that’s worth.
You’d think a lot of them would like Authoritarian Trump. Just call the wall a jobs program
How would I respond to your roommate? I’d have to see some pics first.
It’s just not the same without Ben Carson snoring in the background.
Is the talent-show part of the Pageant? I hope one of them can juggle.
I’m looking forward to the swimsuit competition.
Rubio might be able to rock a thong.
But he’ll be sucking a water bottle while doing it… never mind.
I’ll be back in a minute.
Please…NO SWIMSUIT segment!
Trust me, I’m uuuuuuuuuge!
Maybe in Japan.
Obligatory.
“David Duke’s just some guy, you know.”
Whip it out!
I have to get my debate news from you, but do I understand that they’ve risen to the level of Reason commenters?
I thought the Republikan party was great becuz they h8 teh gheyz and Messikinz.
Just tuned in.
Has Trump asked Megyn if she is on the rag?
He doesn’t have to; Megyn is always on the rag.
Nuclear Triad had a few good songs, hater.
But then they bombed.
They were huge in Japan.
YUUUUUGE!
Rubio will create jobs when he invades Syria.
+1 broken country fallacy
Kasish: “I can get the crossover votes!”
Wait, I thought Caytlin endorsed Cruz?
Ha!
They’re stealing our laburz!
Fucking economic retards.
You know, I’ve seen people jump out of tall buildings on fire and I’ve wondered how long I would stand in the fire before leaping to certain death. I’m starting to think this question might not be just idle curiousity much longer.
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
Cripple fight!
I’ve decided it’s too much work to include a link. Html code on this phone is ridiculously hard. Just google South Park cripple fight.
Timmeeey Donneeeey!
Perfect
Trump – FUCK NUMBERS!
NOOOOOOOOO! Stop using facts!
Save $8 billion by getting rid of the EPA? You’d have fucking 20% GDP growth axing the EPA.
Telling how, apparently, nobody in the room understands that…
yes but we’d have no environment because of teh greedy capitalist corporation derp derp derp
Trump is a con man. A good one too.
Everyone knows that Mitt Romney is the voice of the people.
Yeah, what kind of cognizant gymnastics does it take to say that the guy winning is unpopular? Crazy chick. Hey! If she’s crazy, them maybe Irish can change his handle to “Irish loves Shikha”!
I already found Irish a new woman.
She’s dead.
Irish can’t have her; she’s mine. I’ve always had a thing for redheads.
(glances at tweets)
Yglacias? Really?
Its a sad state of affairs when one has to outsource wit to that guy.
Pillage Pharma! How is Trump not Bernie?
WTF does that even mean? In English?
LOL wut? omg, like, please
Fuck
I can’t even.
It means she realizes she’s not going to be Secretary of Commerce anytime soon,
Postcard: You got money? I like money.
OK, since I don’t have the debate on TV, I’ve been thinking.
What if one of the big Republican states (Texas, for instance) passed a law that in the general election, voters would simply indicate which political party they wanted in control of the White House, without specifying an individual. If (say) the voters voted “Republican,” then the state Republican committee would appoint a slate of Presidential electors.
So imagine Trump gets the nomination, and Republicans win most electoral votes (including in Texas), and the Republican states generally get Trump electors, but in Texas the state committee appoints electors who give the state’s electoral vote to Cruz.
Then suppose the electoral votes are divided among Hillary, Trump, and (thanks to Texas) Cruz, and nobody has a majority of the electoral vote.
So under the 12th Amendment the Presidential election goes into the House of Representatives, voting by states, and they choose among Hillary, Trump and Cruz.
Meanwhile, the Vice-Presidency goes to Trump’s VP pick, since most electors agreed on that guy.
Until the House picks a President, then presumably the Veep is President.
So there’s a Republican in charge, but not Trump.
I think of such things. Just to amuse myself.
Meanwhile, what’s the real world doing?
I’d be surprised if that was legal.
Check it out for yourself – Art. II, sec. 1, and the 12th Amendment.
also, the 20th Amendment, Section 3.
I understand that the Constitution delegates authority to the States, but I’d be surprised if Texas law allowed for a change in how electors are appointed so close to an election. At the least it would be politically costly.
I don’t know.
Um, uh, wait, what? I’d have to look at the language setting up the Electoral College, but I think the EC voters have to be chosen by a vote for a person, not a party.
Interesting idea. I need to go read the constitution, again. Fortunately, I’m half drunk, and will forget this before I actually have to do the work required to research.
“Each State shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors” etc. (art. II sec. 1)
Huh, saved me the “work” of googling shit; you’re not a very good libertarian. But yeah, if the “legislature” mentioned is the state legislature, not the federal, then your beautiful crazy idea works, and Jesse “The Body” Ventura can be POTUS. Or something.
So he said something about his dick?
Only when referencing the bj Romney gave him.
My guess is that Mormons wouldn’t give great blow jobs. But I’m willing to be convinced otherwise.
The very first girl that I ever “sugar freed” was the daughter of a Mormon preacher…. (dozes off amid memories of Another Time”
I’m sure Trump doesn’t have the slightest clue what he’s talking about re the trade agreements. But like a squirrel, he has stumbled on to the reality that trade agreements for the country with the reserve currency are fundamentally different than for anyone else. The sole purpose of all our trade agreements is to keep the trade deficit high – because that is mathematically required in order to keep exporting the reserve currency. All this ‘free trade’ stuff is nothing but mercantilism for the financial sector – while gutting every other part of the economy.
For the reserve currency country – the tail wags the dog. Imports are nothing more than the way foreign countries pay for dollars. So they are encouraged to overproduce – and we are encouraged to do nothing but consume. And unlike ‘normal’ trade deficit countries (where the dog wags the tail), the trade balance never balances.
China is not in the TPP (as Rand Paul pointed out). Trump is an idiot on trade.
Anyway, China pegs to the US Dollar. They have to buy Treasuries to support the peg. We get stuff, they get paper.
It’s pretty hard to keep calling you an idiot if you are going to make good points. Please stop.
“When I am president, China is gonna stop pegging the US! We are gonna strap on hard hats, get to work, and stick it back to China!”
JFree,
Yes. And not many get that.
They form swarm bridges, like in World War Z.
I’ve been trying to follow the “Debate” via glancing at these tweets while watching The Godfather…
…and the only thing i’ve picked up so far is that Robby and ENB are like Ugh, I mean really ugh…. and Cruz managed to cough up and then eat a tonsil stone.
Has there really been nothing of any actual substance mentioned? Are we going to war with Russia? Is Trump going to seize the new Chinese Islands in the South China Sea? Are we going to annex mexico? Didn’t pundits once actually pay attention to politics for reasons other than to express their disgust?
The movie would’ve been much better if Redford was cast as Michael, and Burt Reynolds was cast as Santino.
Or it would’ve just been hilarious.
Was that actually considered?
the casting really made the movie. but i can actually see them getting by with redford as Michael in the beginning (he does the ‘innocent and wounded thing’ well) but it would fall apart as he transforms in to the ‘vengeful son’.
Burt as santino? ach. can’t even imagine it.
I think Dustin Hoffman was considered for Michael. There’s some picture of a notepad with original cast notes floating around the interwebs. Not sure if it’s legit or not.
There are endless rumors about the casting , and the production process in general, but I believe Redford and Reynolds were considered for rolls at some point. The book was very popular, and not many wanted the movie to be made with unknown actors.
Here’s a little doco about the casting process
here’s that
on the michael-shortlist were Martin Sheen, Robert DeNiro, Dustin Hoffman… and someone named ‘scott marlowe’
… apparently Jimmy Caan was one of only 3 at that time for Santino.
Robert Evans like to talk about that as well, of course. Additionally, the role of Carlo was supposedly a favor to the mafia.
Another link to casting and production rumors: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cul…..of-it.html
Then let me tell you something my kraut mick friend….
Di I miss anything?
Doom.
A ‘d’?
Di is dead.
Murdered by the Illuminati.
Who fucking cares where the labor comes from?
Take an economics course, Rubio. Mendacious cunt.
Absolutely lovely
KM-W lookin’ good!
Certainly, but with those eyes, is she auditioning for some anime role?
Not good enough for the blog though, right buddy?
I considered offering $500 to the Reason foundation for exclusive KM-W shapewear modeling pics for my fashion blog, an extra $50 for ENB.
Rubio must be standing on a box. Trump says he is 6’3″ and Rubio is about a foot shorter but they are level on the wide angle.
Trump may be lying though. He might be 5’6″.
If Trump says he’s 6-3, he’s 4-11. That’s how I know Trump ain’t worth 10 billion – if he was worth 10, he’d be saying he’s worth 20.
I know someone that worked with Trump years go when he was lobbying for some shit. Apparently, no one taller was allowed to stand next to him when they were filming.
I’m late to the party, but I see Lucy is talking about boobs.
I like boobs.
Fuck the name-calling, I want to see some hair-pulling!
of all the stuff they retweet, and they pass on this =
” Michael C Moynihan ?@mcmoynihan 13m13 minutes ago
.@alexburnsNYT It’s like a G.G. Allin show, but with even more disgusting people on stage“
GG Allin – is that Jerry Springers real name?
He was a punk icon, whose performances were legendary, if a bit sticky
Fun fact: His given name was Jesus Christ Allin, because his dad said that Jesus came to him in a dream and said his son would be a great man. His father… had more than a few mental issues. It explained a lot once I learned that.
True fact: Did you know that Mary and Joseph were Mexican? Who else would name their kid Jes?s?
I knew about him for like 2 decades before i saw a documentary about him…
…and they eventually got to the “Really Tiny Penis” thing. Which i had somehow missed. It explained a lot once i learned that.
I thought you meant George and Gracie.
Millenials wouldn’t get it.
We need a poll to determine that.
BULLFUCKINGSHIT, you scumbag!
Which one?
Trump. Military will break the law if he tells them to…
Bullshit!
I see.
Leadership is about torture and bombing families!
Has anyone farted on camera yet?
So how is the Democratic Party infomercial going?
As far as I can tell from Twitter, it’s a great night for Team Blue.
If we’re going to have an authoritarian chief executive, he should at least be able to complse flute concertos.
compose
Suicide bombers everywhere are quaking in their shoe bombs at Ted’s threat to kill them.
Snowden is twice the patriot you are, shitbag.
Up is down, down is up.
Oh goody, Trump insinuates war with Saudi Arabia.
At least we would actually be at war with our enemies, so there’s that.
Shikha
H1-B abuse is endemic. Import indentured servants though body shops to avoid employing Americans and US labor law.
Not only is it corrupt with respect do the bogus certification of claims of a lack of Americans to take the jobs, it is corrupting of the companies themselves, where the managers have clear conflicts of interest with the relations they have the body shops that they are sending company business to.
You hire H1-B because they’re not subject to the same rules as American labor. Same reason you use a labor agency for your employees – the paperwork bullshit ain’t your headache. DoL is changing that, though – more businesses fleeing the country because you can’t hire a fucking American without taking on Uncle Sam as a business partner who makes it so you have to hire representative grievance groups and can’t ever fire them.
Kasich: “I knew Ronald Reagan.”
Internet slash-fic community: “Not going there.”
What exactly would he ask them to do that they might consider refusing?
Nobody gives a fuck if Trump lies. He lies every time he opens his mouth.
Not a Megyn Kelly fan, but she’s been good, holding dipshit’s feet to the fire, in these debates. And she’s not afraid of him.
She is one of the few news personalities who seems to be able to do that.
But it was interesting that Trump asked if this question was going to take all day – he has an attention span of about 12 seconds.
Henry VIII wrote a popular tune soon after his coronation (and before he became fat, ugly and Protestant).
A version on YouTube.
Maybe Rubio or Cruz should point out to the sizable number military-fellating Republicans that Trump expects the men and women in uniform to murder women and children. I’m sure that’s a lot of voter’s husbands, fathers, sons, brothers, etc.
Deals!
Trump hasn’t won a single suit on the Trump University thing, despite what he says. More lies nobody cares about.
He is a con man. This is pathetic for a final four debate.
You are very interesting and insightful.
Megyn Kelly is pretty good at this.
John “Rodney King” Kasich makes an appearance…
Wife says Cruz looks like Grandpa Munster.
Better yet.
uncanny
Its true! He’s nebbishy.
You don’t know what a horn-doggy old bastard Grandpa Munster was?
I meant more the physical stereotype, which is more that ‘pinched face’, like a child that likes to please his mom.
I still say Nathan Lane
http://www.goodmantheatre.org/…..88×375.jpg
True, he’s weird looking. But still less horrifying than Trump. It’s almost funny how ugly the top candidates are this election.
Frederick the Great, Henry VIII, and now Richard Nixon – they were actually decent composers, though with more wars, beheadings and price controls than other composers are accustomed to indulge in.
I won’t do Paderewski and King David, they’re too easy.
(Nixon starts about a minute in)
Shit – sucking up to Detroit. Fuck Detroit – they shit their bed, let em sleep in it.
Cruz gave a good answer though.
Oh great kultcher warr.
Kasich couldn’t quite bring himself to be principled, could he?
Someone took Rubio’s water bottle.
FIRE!!!
FIRE!
FIIIIIIIRE!!!
Feuer Frei
I’m so glad the most libertarian candidate in the field took the time to bash gay marriage.
I’m glad someone is finally going to stand up and put an end to this gay menace. Back in my day we had traditional, Judeo-Christian values, and damnit that meant something.
It’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
Soothe yourself with the Baroque chamber music of Jean Philippe Rameau.
Or maybe I meant this link.
Not watching. They’re all erring on the side of too much liberty, right?
The whole future depends on Rubio becoming president.
And our press is worried about the North Korean “threat.”
What are you going to do about the Norks? Blame Obama!
Good answer, Marco!
Bull. Donald will support the GOP nominee if it’s Donald, otherwise he’s been screwed by the GOP and he’ll screw them right back.
As I send you power?
Sit back and crack open a Heinichen.
“Donald Trump is a liar, a conman and a fraud and he must be stopped. Unless we can’t. In which case, meh, he’s our guy.”
Here we go…
Cruz HAS YOUR MURDERING BACK!
O’Reilly next! He’ll make these guys look fair and balanced and smart and sane!
Ted “Hoover” Cruz: a chicken in every pot, and an MRAP in every PD garage.
“Robby Soave ?@robbysoave
I want Ted Cruz to not be the most authoritarian candidate, because the rest of them already are. But he is too.”
Its like a poem. and it makes sense if you really think about it. even though the only candidate who’s ever fulminated to start a war (and succeeded) wears a pantsuit.
They’re all more authoritarian than each other in different ways.
Yes, i was sure there was a version that made sense.
My point was more that these tweeters are supposed to be politically sophisticated, but they turn into whiny children who are shocked, disappointed and dismayed that Republicans Talk Tough about National Security. Why, they were just *so ready* to endorse one or all of them, until they said those mean things about Iran.
1. I guarantee you Soave and ENB are both three sheets to the wind right now at the hotel bar where CPAC is at
2. There is nothing wrong with pointing out that the Republican Party is a cancerous blight on national rhetoric and discussion.
“the Republican Party is a cancerous blight on national rhetoric and discussion.”
I think you misunderstand my point.
I could have told you – in fact, i did, at least on the subject of immigration – what every candidate was going to say (more or less) a year or so ago.
The standard GOP-pitch to the public has hardly changed in my lifetime. With the exception of a very few ‘narrow’ policies that might be more-of-the-moment, they’re always saying the same thing, just spinning it slightly differently.
Pearl-clutching about the GOP “Big Stick” talk is naive and stupid. It says nothing. Until someone has in charge of something as specific as “chairman of the senate committee on military affairs”, or the foreign relations committee… what they think about ‘war stuff’ is meaningless blather-talk.
My point is that none of these people can be called more “warlike” than the presumptive dem nominee. Because she’s the only one who has wielded decision making authority and shown her inclinations. Pretending that canned GOP rhetoric somehow matters relative to that is juvenile and stupid.
“why do you bother”
touche
but still i think its more reasonable of me to expect people to stop treating canned-political-rhetoric at face value, than it is for you to expect people to suddenly see Trump as something other than a showbiz hack who may or may not be the monster they think.
It is more reasonable…but it ain’t gonna happen.
I think some of them actually “forget” how bad Rubio and Kasich are in actual foreign policy proposals between debates. Or maybe foreign policy is just “too hard” like policy wonk-Barbie says:
I include myself in this. There are areas, like foreign policy, that I mostly stay away from because I don’t know enough to form an opinion. The modern world is probably not really more complicated than the world was two centuries ago. But modern government certainly is. It has taken on too many tasks for anyone — even the candidate — to form a good opinion across the whole range.
Who said that?
Megan McArdle
I’m disappointed you even had to ask.
Megan McArdle
I read it as “I want Ted Cruz to not be The. Most. Authoritarian. candidate…”
Robby is extra millennial, so you have to go easy on him when it comes to sentence construction.
Why do you bother?
My favorite line from The Godfather so far which i had never really caught the other 100 times i’ve seen it =
“I don’t like violence, Tom, I’m a businessman. Blood is a big expense!”
I feel a little embarrassed when Nick tweets ‘meme’ things. Its like watching the school principal breakdance.
Wait till he raps.
Nick is the world’s oldest millenial.
Strange women lying in ponds 2016.
The Dubs versus the Thunder right now is a show.