US Marshals Shoot Innocent Man While Looking For Someone Else—No Explanation Provided
Feds don't wear body cameras.


U.S. marshals hunting for a murder suspect in Albuquerque instead shot and killed 23-year-old Edgar Alvarado, who lived two trailers down from the suspect.
The shooting occurred on Saturday, and according to KOB 4, the U.S. marshals have not yet offered an explanation for the shooting. Alvarado's family also told KOB 4 they haven't been contacted about Edgar's killing and insist he was an innocent bystander.
Some family members believe marshals shot and killed Alvarado because they mistook him for George Hunt, the murder suspect. "It's the fault of the boss of this police," Juan Manuel Alvarado told KOB 4. "If he's training people to kill, then he should just say it out loud so people know."
According to Juan, Alvarado did not die instantly and was denied medical attention. In a statement, the Albuquerque Police Department (APD) said it was called to the scene after shots were fired, in order to "provide perimeter and emergency medical services to the scene." They deny any member of their force was there during the shooting.
The APD is currently being monitored by the Department of Justice after it found a pattern and practice of abuse in a 2014 investigation.
But, as KOB 4 explains, the feds don't hold their own law enforcement officials to the same standards as those they monitor:
The US Department of Justice talks a big game about transparency and the need for officers to wear lapel cameras, but their own federal officers are not required to wear them.
In fact, local officers working with federal agents don't have to wear them either, as federal policies trump local ones.
The U.S. Marshals service policy does not allow for lapel cameras at scenes, and federal agents have not released any information on the shooting, directing all requests to New Mexico State Police.
There was a lack of a body camera at the recent FBI shooting at the end of the Oregon stand-off as well. Instead, the feds released video from a helicopter in an attempt to appear transparent. That shooting did not create an impetus to equip federal law enforcement officials with body cameras in the way the feds themselves are helping local law enforcement officials be equipped.
Neither, for that matter, did the U.S. marshals shooting of an unarmed man in 2015 who had spent eight years under state supervision after being caught once with 20 oxy pills. Even Black Lives Matters' fairly comprehensive policy agenda makes no mention of federal law enforcement officials and the rules that should apply to them.
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...the U.S. marshals have not yet offered an explanation for the shooting.
It takes time to coordinate a story and then make certain there's no video evidence to refute it.
Didn't I see a story the other day where these goons are going out with arrest warrants for people who have defaulted on their student loans?
How long before they shoot one of them?
I'd give it about 10 minutes.
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It was here in Houston.
(glances around furtively)
"Unarmed mother of two shot on sight for failure to pay student loan"
That will go over well.
This is what happens when you exempt yourself from the rules, force civil cases into criminal courts and start using your fists instead of your brain.
The end result of government is *always* force, dude. Always.
+1 last argument of kings
It sounds so classy in Latin!
Ultima Ratio Regum
"Fuck you, that's why" is pithier, though.
Futue te ipsi, hoc est cur.
"That will go over well."
I don't think it will ruffle more than a few feathers.
Yeah, not many people actually gave a shit when Kelly Thomas was beaten to death or Tamir Rice was killed.
If you didn't want to get shot for not paying student loans, you should have complied! Officer safety, totality of the circs!
Furtive non-payment!
LOL
"How long before they shoot one of them?"
I read this as 'they' meaning an innocent citizen and 'them' meaning an LEO
which is just as interesting a question as the opposite interpretation.
So that's why the Department of Education has been stocking up on guns and ammo.
#TrailerLivesMatter
#BrainsSplatter
Feds: "Do as I say, not as I do."
This is Jack's complete lack of surprise.
AHA! Another sock puppet! You forgot to change handles 'Jack'.
Curses! Foiled again!
(gives mustache a twist and cape a theatrical twirl before being led away in cuffs by Deputy Dog)
But, as KOB 4 explains, the feds don't hold their own law enforcement officials to the same standards as those they monitor:
So... lower than lower standards.
That may change when those federal officials are no longer "The Obama Administration".
The obama administration is not responsible for this. Its the law enforcement industry's preference for former soldiers that are trained and encouraged to be hyper aggressive. There was a short time in history that law enforcement knew not to hire soldiers. There is a different mentality. Police were known as "peace officers," which is very different than soldiers.
This is what happens if you don't shoot them when you have the chance.
The U.S. Marshals service policy does not allow for lapel cameras at scenes...
I believe that is correct - it's not that the Feds don't require body cameras, they actually forbid them. Same with FBI interrogations up until a couple of years ago (following that Boston Bomber Buddy mysteriously winding up dead), the FBI didn't just not require recording interrogations, they actually forbid it. The record consists of whatever the FBI says was said and that's that. They don't want any video or audio evidence confusing people as to what the truth is.
I'll remain silent of I can't have an audio recording thank you.
They will simply write down what you "said". And if you dispute it they charge you with lying to a federal officer.
The best way is to make your own.
Then they'll charge you with wiretapping. Especially after that idiotic "no 1st amendment right to record" ruling the other day.
I had a fed call me a few months ago. My google voice records all incoming calls. It makes an announcement and everything, and he didn't seem to mind.
It you don't want to be recorded, don't call me.
Which decision was that?
Virginia allows single party consent.
Same here in Ohio.
Link?
Virginia allows it, but that doesn't mean you have a 1st amendment right to do it, apparently.
When talking to the cops, its not so much a "free expression" right, as it is a due process right.
The idea that gathering evidence that might be helpful to your defense is illegal is about as abhorrent to due process as anything I can think of.
It's not like the FBI was planning on writing into the record your screams of agony as they attempted to pull your scrotum all the way over your head anyway, you think they're going to write into the record your assertion of your right to remain silent that led to the fantastic elastic scrotal-plastic demonstration?
There must be something in the water in Albuquerque....
something blue
They all turn blue if you hold their head underwater long enough.
Straight edges are sharp, man. You can't have a legit controlled society without tidy lines bumping the odd blood puddle.
Here's the murder suspect.
I can totally see how you could mistake a Hispanic man with no tattoos for a white guy covered in Air Jordan tattoos. If they could mistake two Asian women delivering news papers for a 6' 3" black man during the Dorner man hunt, I guess anything's possible.
I'm told if I make fun of those tattoos, I'm an "old, white republican", so I'll keep my mouth shut.
Meh, I'm getting a tattoo in April and will gladly ridicule an Air Jordan tattoo on the neck. Classy.
They all look alike. Amirite Irish?
Cop 1: "I've got a dirt-stache over here."
Cop 2: "Good enough for me. Let him have it, boys."
The US Marshalls are obviously recruiting straight from police departments, with their "when a suspect is armed shoot anything that moves" training.
Look, if you don't want to get shot by the feds, you shouldn't resemble the low-life suspect.
Or, as pointed out just above your post, you shouldn't... exist? Because there ain't much resemblance there.
Remember all federal shootings are justified. All of them, always.
Who investigates the feds? Oh right, no one.
Government is just another term for the murderers we employ together.
Government is just another term for the murderers that force us at gunpoint to pay their salaries. Together.
Death and imprisonment bureaucracies that cross-dress in rock'n roll calico and plaid apple pie.
+1 offer I can't refuse
Keeping you safe, one murder at a time!
Who investigates the feds?
Hillary Clinton in about... six months.
I dunno. Coast Guard?
Who will watch the guardians?
Remember all federal shootings are justified. All of them, always.
C'mon, man, you know you're allowed to think that, but if you say it, Reason gets a subpoena. So even if we all think shooting federales is completely justified, we gotta keep it on the DL.
Uh, not quite what I was referring to. But I see how an AUSA could interpret it that way.
*grabs ankles, prepares for subpoena*
Dear Preet,
I wish to amend my previous comment from "federal shootings" to "shootings by federal agents"
I hope you and your family are well.
Hugs and kisses,
Lee G
Especially if it's Raylan Givens pulling the trigger.
How dare you!
They'll charge the perp with the murder of Alvarado. Because if they weren't searching for him, Alvarado would not have been killed by that gun discharge.
That would be a sweet little red ribbon to wrap it up in.
The article didn't mention they took his 11 year old nephew's phone that may have recorded the shooting.
Albuquerque cops thrive with zero ethics so someone needs to keep an eye on the 11 year-old nephew also.
Edgar Alvarado? Trailer?
Good shoot.
Seriously, are you going to ruin the careers of a few dedicated public servants over that trailer trash?
/lawandorder
The police are coming for us!
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/b.....act-628491
This guy, who lived in a trailer park with at least one sketchy resident. He probably did like Corey Maye and answered the door with a pistol in his hand. Which should be his right. Some one bangs on my door shouting "US Marshals!" I might not take their word for it.
He was hanging out in the driveway working on his car. He probably got up with a wrench in his hand and they shot him because OFFICER SAFETY, WE CAN'T WAIT 2 SECONDS TO MAKE SURE IT'S A GUN.
Jesus Christ.
Another police story.
Even I haven't 'bated to cell phone porn. Have some dignity, fat cop.
Why would he confess?
Well, y'see, he's not very smart.
Fortunately he didn't put some one else's penis in his pants.
I'm interested on how he got caught. Dash cam?
Library cam
"Hardin"? Come on.
Grow up. This is the Internet.
Authorities haven't commented on the family's account of what happened, and it's unclear if any video of the shooting or the operation exists.
Camacho said his 11-year-old brother saw the whole thing and police confiscated his phone.
Well, there's a video that's never going to be seen again.
Add this phone to the list for Apple to crack open.
So the feds can "confirm" that there is no "recoverable video of the attack on federal agents by the deceased perpetrator."
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I do like how the WP puts this as "local news". Yes... and no.
I believe there were specific references in emails to FOIA requests and avoiding government email addresses.
I wonder if nutpunches like this hurt worse if your name is George Zimmerman.
According to Juan, Alvarado did not die instantly and was denied medical attention.
Standard procedure when shooting the wrong guy: let him bleed out so he can't contradict the official lies.
First rule of shooting people: Only have one side to the story.
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Because Fuck you, that's why. What, that's not a Google enough explanation? Whiners. /feds
*good enough*
Fucking autocorrect.
The lack of interest in such federal-level reforms is a good (and unsurprising) indication that neither the "Justice" Department nor Black Shakedowns Matter is actually concerned about justice. It's all about effectively federalizing the local police. This is also why I trust none of those "Justice" reports claiming racism in individual police departments. That's what they intend to find, and so naturally they do.
It's all about effectively federalizing the local police.
I never thought about it that way. Shit. You're probably right. Then once the local cops are in compliance with whatever the feds say, you will have no recourse. Just like when the company upstream makes the fish you catch toxic. Because they are in compliance you have no legal standing to sue. So if the local cops murder your kid for no good reason, but all the cops had the required training, then it isn't their fault. You're powerless.
It's laundered and pure. The need to believe in something Super-Ordinate results in forcing a framed construction in which the Super-Ordinate cannot be wrong. Otherwise the belief would have been a silly waste of time.
The HR recruiting staff for law enforcement agencies are hiring too many thugs and giving them guns. There is supposed to be screening process to ensure thugs don't get badges. These law enforcement agencies are hiring too many former military. Those military people are trained to increase their aggression in violent situations. Too many of those people don't seem capable of un-learning those behaviors and are choosing to go get jobs with badges that will allow them to be aggressive and not go to jail.