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Stark Divide Between Democrat, Republican Candidates on Veterans Health Care

Veterans may not now have a choice of where to go for health care. But they will have a choice in November's election, as we all will.

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The presidential campaign issue of veterans health care is worth keeping a close eye on, even if you aren't a veteran or a close family member of one. The matter came up at both of the two most recent presidential debates. It's in the news not only because of the scandal over long wait times for care at Veterans Administration hospitals and the coverup of the same scandal, but because the differences between Republicans and Democrats on the issue illuminate a stark ideological divide.

Here's how the Democratic presidential candidates dealt with the question when they were asked about it on February 4 by Rachel Maddow, who put it this way: "What's your argument that the V.A. should still exist and should not be privatized?"

Hillary Clinton responded, "I'm absolutely against privatizing the V.A. … this is another part of the Koch brothers agenda. They've actually formed an organization to try to begin to convince Americans we should no longer have guaranteed health care, specialized care for our veterans."

Said Clinton: "I will fight that as hard as I can. … let's fix the V.A., but we will never let it be privatized, and that is a promise."

Sen. Bernie Sanders, a past chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, replied, "Secretary Clinton is absolutely right, there are people, Koch brothers among others.. who want to privatize it…. We've got to strengthen the V.A. We do not privatize the V.A."

On February 6, the Republican presidential candidates dealt with the same question in their own debate. Even though the Republicans were clashing with each other on some issues, on this one, there wasn't much of a debate. It was more of a consensus.

Benjamin Carson said that veterans "should have health empowerment accounts that are subsidized so they can go to any medical facility and be taken care of. They can go to a V.A. if they want to."

Jeb Bush said, "I totally agree that we need to give veterans more choices. A veterans card to be able to go to a private provider will enhance the quality of the service inside the Department of Veterans Affairs."

John Kasich said, "when a veteran comes home, they should get health care anywhere they want to go."

Marco Rubio said, "the portability part of it is incredibly important. Veterans should be able to take their V.A. benefits to any hospital or any doctor they want to go to. When I am president of the United States, veterans will be able to take their benefits to any hospital or doctor that they choose." 

The difference between Republicans and Democrats on this issue might indeed have something to do with interest group politics. Non-government doctors, health insurance companies, and for-profit hospitals—often, though not exclusively, aligned with Republicans—would surely like a piece of the roughly $60 billion a year that the federal government spends providing veterans health care through dedicated, government owned and operated Veterans Administration health care facilities.

On the Democratic side, the American Federation of Government Employees, a reliable Democratic interest group, represents 220,000 employees at the Veterans Administration. The union doesn't want those employees to lose their jobs to non-union private sector competitors.

But while the interest-group politics around the issue can't be ignored, neither can the underlying ideological differences. Veterans health care is not the only issue where Democrats want a service provided by unionized government employees, while Republicans want to give individuals a choice. The same pattern shows up in education, where most Democrats favor traditional public schools while most Republicans are more open to private school vouchers. The analogue in housing policy would be government-owned housing projects versus rental subsidy vouchers that can be used to pay private landlords. The Democrats haven't yet abandoned food stamps for a program of forcing the poor to shop at special government-owned grocery stores selling food grown by unionized government farmers on government-owned farms, but wait for the second term of the Sanders administration.

Republicans don't trust the government; they think it's a bloated monopoly run by overpaid, inefficient bureaucrats. Democrats don't trust the private sector; they suspect overpaid corporate executives just want to siphon excessive profits out of government programs. Neither party is perfectly consistent about this; there are some social issues where Republicans aren't so comfortable with individual choice, and some Democrats don't mind portraying the Pentagon as a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy. But these are the fundamental instincts and tendencies, and they run deeply.

Businesses facing similar questions of whether to contract out services or perform them in house can run though a checklist. Is the service part of the company's core mission? Is the benefit of control gained by performing the service in-house worth the increased cost or hassle? Which will provide the best combination of price and service, an in-house provider or an outside contractor?

Politicians have to rely on guidance from the Constitution and, one hopes, from the voters, or the individuals receiving the services. Veterans may not now have a choice of where to go for health care. But they will have a choice in November's election, as we all will.

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  1. This is an issue where the democrats really shine. A grand failure on a scale rarely seen with problems that could easily be solved by privatizing, or at least outsourcing, many of its functions yet they insist that it must remain government run for the principle of it all.

    Never mind the damage done to soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines. We must keep this within the government.

    1. Never mind the damage done to soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines.

      I imagine they see that as a bonus.

    2. Privatize? You mean allow rich people make profits? That is immoral. Better to give substandard care at a higher cost than allow rich people to make profits.

    3. What are the lives of a few veterans compared to the jobs of union VA employees?

  2. I know there are some issues that many on the left believe that are ridiculous. But with some of these issues, they can cherry pick some data to try to prove they are right. But it still amazes me that there are people in this day and age that honestly believe that giving veteran’s the ability to go to the doctor or hospital of their choice is somehow bad. Obviously the union thugs have their rice bowls on the line. And Hilary doesn’t have a core belief system (other than more power for Hilary), but does Bernie actually believe that giving adults a choice is bad?

    By what measure could anyone possibly convince an independent person that the VA (if it was just given “enough money”) would do a better job than giving vets the right to go whereever they want?

    1. does Bernie actually believe that giving adults a choice is bad?

      First day on this planet, is it?

      “Choice” is just another way of saying “more than enough”. Nobody needs a choice of a potato or a turnip for dinner, the fact that you have both just means you have too much.

      1. And the collective is more important than the individual. In fact, even considering the individual as important is heresy. The individual is to be subsumed by the collective. To think otherwise is anathema.

  3. The Dems love the VA so much they want us all to enjoy the same healthcare system wounded vets enjoy, the Reps love wounded vets so much they want to create lots more of them. I wonder if they’ll reach some sort of win/win compromise whereby they both get what they want?

  4. There’s a sort of sick running joke between the veterans I hang out with: how long until, and in what ridiculous way will Bernie tie the Koch Bros into the corruption, organizational incompetence and gross mismanagement at the VA? Little known fact: the Kochs have, with their dark money, funded a working time machine and are responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs, which in turn created, via the Butterfly Effect, the many issues within the VA -Bernie told us so.

    That aside, the old tried and true big government solution of throwing lots of money with no plan, no oversight, and never checking back to see if things have improved-this is what I predict as the solution reached for the VA.

    I suspect that veterans’ issues are largely a backdrop, in the window-dressing sense, for most of these candidates. Certainly for Hillary and Bernie.

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  7. It should be noted that by giving the vets voucher cards, its still single payer healthcare. So, why the opposition?

    The Democrats are against this, not because of any principle, but because they back a larger government.

    1. Don’t forget the unions. Gotta keep the unions paid.

      If someone has a choice between going to a hospital run by public-sector union employees and one which is not, I think you can guess which is going to come out ahead.

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