Free State Project Participants: It's Time to Move to New Hampshire For Real!
The plan to relocate 20,000 libertarians to New Hampshire "triggers" its commitment, as 20,000 people have now pledged.
The Free State Project (FSP) is dedicated to moving 20,000 libertarian-minded folk to gather together in one small-ish state, New Hampshire, with the hope that they will shift the political culture of the place toward freedom. It has been gathering commitments to move since 2004.
Since the power of numbers thing only works if everyone can be encouraged to all do it more or less at once, the FSP "statement of intent," committed signers to all actually moving if 20,000 people all signed up, to avoid them having to waste their time if they came to the freedom party nearly alone. An interesting way to solve the "no, you go first" problem with these sort of group endeavors. It was a clever idea. And it worked.
That 20,000 signers goal has now been reached, as FSP founder Jason Sorens and current president Carla Gericke will be announcing at a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 a.m. eastern at the Radisson in Manchester, NH. (Just a month ago Nick Gillespie reported about them hitting the 90 percent mark.) This makes FSP "the most successful intentional migration movement in American history," as they stated in a press release this afternoon.
That release goes on to explain why this accomplishment should be of interest to those wanting to see even localized libertarian change in these here United States:
"Early movers have already made their mark on the Granite State by passing life-saving drug reform legislation, expanding school choice and protecting first amendment rights – this has drawn in a whole new crowd of participants. Just imagine what can be accomplished with 10 times as many people." [said Gericke]
Since the first early movers flocked to New Hampshire, Free State Project participants have followed their individual passions to the center of some of the state's most contentious political fights. They were instrumental in organizing resistance to Real ID in 2008, legalizing same-sex marriage through the legislature in 2009, and establishing a medical cannabis program in 2013….
"I'm thrilled by how far the Free State Project has come since the essay I wrote 15 years ago [says founder Jason Sorens]. Freedom lovers from around the country have turned concept into reality by moving to New Hampshire and building all kinds of exciting efforts to secure liberty and prosperity for all–efforts I could never have imagined back in 2001. Good ideas are powerful, and the idea of freedom is spurring many thousands of Americans to commit to move to the Granite State for a better life."
"This is the culmination of over a decade of grassroots and volunteer work…" says Gericke. "Early movers are bringing their businesses, families and charities with them to New Hampshire – not to mention disposable income. So far we've purchased more than $30 million in real estate alone, and I can't wait to see what kind of larger impact will be made as a result of individual efforts within this growing and thriving community."
Will everyone put up or shut up and move to New Hampshire now and make it a better state for liberty? Who knows? But they made their pledge, and have plenty of evidence that useful or interesting things for liberty can arise from honoring the commitment.
Over 1,900 Free Staters already are there and we've reported here at Reason on some of what they're already accomplished, from getting 15 of their brethren in the state House, challenging anti-ridehail laws, fighting in court for outre religious liberty, winning legal battles over taping cops, being mocked by Colbert for heroically paying off people's parking meters, hosting cool anything goes festivals for libertarians, nullifying pot juries, and inducing occasional pants-wetting absurd paranoia in local statists.
Reason has done a couple of big profiles about this movement-on-the-rise and their culture, first by me in their very early days in December 2004 and most recently by Garrett Quinn in May 2013.
The FSP nabbed the hard-to-nab Edward Snowden to talk (via video!) at their forthcoming Liberty Forum event. And The New York Times hat-tipped FSP today in discussing how Rand Paul might be expected to do in New Hampshire's primary next week.
While I will not be moving (nor did I pledge to)—too cold!—Free Staters I've reported on and hung out with are the most interesting and fun bunch of libertarians I've met since my own old College Libertarian group at the University of Florida. I think that even if a bunch of the 20,000 fink out, this is undoubtedly going to be good news for New Hampshire, for America, and even or especially for most of the individuals who choose to move.
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20,000 dollhairs.
Don’t fire off the confetti just yet the number is back to 19998 as my wife and I are leaving NH for NC
New Caledonia?
That’s a damn good idea. I hadn’t heard much about it until Tejicano hyped it up. I’m very interested.
If there is any French-speaking place in the world I would choose to live in New Caledonia would be the one. Probably the nicest Pacific island I have visited – and I’ve been to quite a few of them.
Tahiti. Moorea, to be exact. Smaller than Tahiti Nui, but not so small that it’s like Bora Bora.
One of the cool aspects of New Caledonia is how you, as a tourist, won’t be mobbed by touts hoping to wheedle you into some shop or service. A significant percentage of the world’s nickel comes from New Caledonia so they have their own economy. They also were part of the French empire so they have some pretty good food choices.
The island of Rapa Iti was my favorite. The climate is perfect, low population of about 500 people. No tourism at all. Very remote though. Only a few supply boats a year.
Tourism is one thing. Moving to a place for the foreseeable future – emmigrating – is a completely different discussion.
I wouldn’t move to a place where proper medical care was not an option. And no matter how nice it seems being there for a couple weeks after you spend a couple months in a different place, culture, and language there are things you will start to miss. After a couple years the differences become huge. Just the lack of a Home Depot or being able to run out for some type of cuisine will become a big deal to you.
Are you claiming that you’re married to a female libertarian?
can’t be; otherwise, why would he be moving? Other than far far less snow.
Yes, I am married to the world’s only female libertarian.
Less snow is a plus. Also I will be working at a university hospital on the organ transplant unit something NH doesn’t have.
*ahem*
/Banjos
LOL. World’s only female libertarian. If you are really leaving NH I assume you were not really involved in the liberty movement here. My wife is an anarcho-capitalist. At the weekly liberty social events I run, we sometimes have women than men present.
Totally fair to assert there are more libertarian men then women but they are certainly not rare.
“At the weekly liberty social events I run, we sometimes have women than men present.”
As a compassionate constitutionalist, I would like to gift you with “more”:
“At the weekly liberty social events I run, we sometimes have more women than men present.”
No, no need to thank me. Compassion, remember? I feel terrible about the gaps in your thought process, and truly wish to help.
20,000 libertarians moving to New Hampshire sounds awesome but what about the people from Massachusetts? Is it true New Hampshire is also being invaded by Massholes?
According to Howie Carr it’s real!
How will this impact the Republican primary? What about Trump?
Well, as you can imagine, it will put quite a damper on his chances of winning a second term.
Ask a millennial
They all went home by 5pm.
But they’re convinced they’ll be the future CEO. Instead of the Millennial who’s working to 6 pm every night.
Shouldn’t the person who can finish their work in a timely fashion be rewarded before the person who is always having to stay late to get their job done?
I’m a NH native and I think that while this is a popular belief, it has little truth. Yes, many M@ssholes are moving, but they tend to settle in the southeastern and south/central areas of the state because they’ve kept their jobs in Mass. These areas of the state have been those which have been more likely to vote conservative. It’s the western (near Vermont) and North (economically depressed) that are the bastions of the democrats.
The massholes thing is a distraction. People do move up. The vast majority I’ve met are escaping MA for good reason. Plenty of them are libertarian or liberty leaning. If you look at town based voting, our southern border is not the problem. VT border is a bigger issue. Luckily, if all of VT comes to NH, I can just lock them into the basement.
I think Michigan would be better. We just need Detroit and Ann Arbor is offset easily.
But you want someplace people might actually want to live in.
MISSISSIPPI !!!
Hell no. I say this from personal experience.
Mississippi is like the New Jersey of the South.
Shit, the Koch bros could buy Detroit wholesale. Libertopia.
I wouldn’t.
A $500 house comes with thousands of dollars of yearly tax liability to pay for people who used to provide police and fire “services”.
But with the new residenta they could overrun the council and kill the spending… right?
Nope. It’s in the state constitution. Other cities have tried.
Man, Michigan is horrible.
CA is worse. Even if you disincorporate a city (which has happened maybe 5 times in our state’s history), the county is on the hook.
“A $500 house comes with thousands of dollars of yearly tax liability to pay for people who used to provide police and fire “services”.”
+1, for a while it was trendy to sell these houses to Germans. There’s a sucker born every minute.
Wyoming or Montana would have been better choices.
Or Banff. I know it’s not technically a State, or in the United States, and that technically it is on land owned by the Canadian government, and you need permission to live there, but all that aside, Banff would have been a better choice. I’d totally move to Banff.
Banff is beautiful but more expensive than NH!
Also probably “too cold!” – as are Wyoming and Montana.
Not balmy like New Hampshire.
But we are libertarians, so we’re all rich, right!?
NERD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hear Montana is weird. Really leftist in some ways.
Let me tell you, I spent an afternoon in Bozeman. So I know jack squat about the place. But I won a beer from an ATM, so that’s cool.
I grew up in Montana. It is an great place, but there are some really leftist aspects. Especially in the western half, which is also the best part. In places like Missoula or Butte, team blue definitely holds sway.
“I hear Montana is weird. Really leftist in some ways”
They probably support immigration anarchy.
Porcfest?
Be careful really horny people don’t sue for false advertisement.
Or rabid William Hootkins fans.
What could Colbert possibly upset Colbert about paying people’s meters? I used to do it and people did it for me.
It’s a type of paying it forward. I learned a similar lesson in Italy. I notice people were leaving extra money on the counter. When I asked my cousin what it was for he told me ‘it was just a kind act’. It’s called sospeso. My father used to tell me whenever he gave me money ‘always offer. If you’re with a friend and their friend you offer that friend. Don’t be maledicati’. Strong lessons he gave me and I find myself still doing it today. I always offer and sometimes just pay whoever I’m with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caff?_sospeso
‘maleducati’ means roughly ‘miseducated’ or impolite. Or to borrow a more congenial term Tundra used earlier, don’t be a ‘stronzo’.
At least you didn’t say finiccio.
Finocchio or frosh.
http://www.urbandictionary.com…..term=Frosh
‘Madonna quanti frosh ce qui!
Pezzo di stronzo!
Great Italian swear.
I thought the best Italian swear was “shudduppa your mouth”
Lord me, “What could possibly upset Colbert about paying people’s meters”.
In their eyes, you’re stealing money from the state.
Which is a completely retarded way to see things. It’s uncivil.
Apparently only kind gestures that pass through or approved by the state matter.
Now you’re getting it.
Oh I get it.
The state strips common decency between people.
As I’ve tried to explain to my own family on multiple occasions, we’ve outsourced compassion to the State. The results are sadly predictable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomie
In all seriousness, I vaguely remember a back and forth with amsoc where he eventually admitted that he thought private charity was a bad idea on moral grounds. I forget why. Probably something about democracy. That is one of the most misused words in the English language.
Despicable.
“‘he thought private charity was a bad idea on moral grounds”
it deprived government of taxable income. Its selfish to direct funds via your own priority of conscience. Far better for the Will of the People to flush those funds down a gigantic bureaucratic toilet
He’s a sock. Tulpa, if I were a betting man. And I do win bets.
Who’s a sock?
I saw a recipe for lamb loin chops on Batianich’s show the other day. It looked really nice; if I liked lamb. Will probably make it for the wife.
Anyway. You know it’s pathetic when you watch something and say, ‘Hm. That’s probably that asshole Playa may like’.
Batianich. Boy I’m really kicking up the bad speeelling tonight.
“Lydia’s Kitchen”?
Also, i thought her last name had an S in it. “bastianich”
I ate in her pasta place in NY a few years ago (Bucco?) it did not blow me away.
*”becco“
Is that the one the son owns?
“Is that the one the son owns?”
I don’t know. I think she has like 3 places in NYC, and only 1 of them is considered top-notch but i don’t know which. My buddy had family come in from out of town and they insisted on eating somewhere near Times Sq. all those places are “dinner before theater” restaurants and they tend to be “Cheap Haute” = ie. present the appearance of being fancy, but are actually just designed to impress out-of-towners who don’t want to blow too much money.
Yes. See below. Not surprised. I tried her wine at Eataly. Meh.
But the recipe looked good.
Holy shit. I misspelled her name twice. And I thought I fixed it. Man I’m lost tonight.
This multitasking is not working.
” And I do win bets.”
This sounds vaguely racist to me. Have you been talking to Irish?
“Pl?ya Manhattan.|2.2.16 @ 9:41PM|#
He’s a sock. Tulpa, if I were a betting man. And I do win bets.”
I’d take you on this. one i don’t think amsoc is a sock (*pun) at all. he’s genuinely dumb. Tulpa’s tell is that he’s modestly clever, but wildly over-estimates his own brains and inevitably resorts to the identical kinds of phrasing/arguments regardless of which side he’s pretending to be on.
Amsoc, by contrast, is bone-stupid, and he actually avoids tete-a-tete, unlike Tulpa, who desperately seeks it out. Amsoc prefers his fly-by inane statements about how horribly right-wing everyone is and how he’s the only moral person in the universe. but he hardly even has the brains to understand his own arguments. He routinely says things that are either just factually incorrect or have obvious holes in the logic. He’s a genuine dullard, and that’s pretty hard to fake
Glimore, this is a lengthy discussion. I think I can change your mind, but it has been a long week.
” he eventually admitted that he thought private charity was a bad idea on moral grounds”
Sounds to me like he is simply justifying his selfish attitude with some sophistry about people paying their own way benefiting society – or some other bullshit. Either way, it really fits his (lack of) character.
Sounds to me like he is simply justifying his selfish attitude with some sophistry about people paying their own way benefiting society
Oh no, that wouldn’t be completely terrible. He was arguing that it was better for the government to redistribute wealth.
I forget all the details, but I think we were talking hypotheticals about a system of private charity that could realistically replace government welfare. He was against it, and I was asking why he preferred a coercive to voluntary system assuming the outcomes were more or less equal. That’s when he dropped the line about thinking private charity was not morally preferable, I think because it still allowed rich people to decide which charities they would support, instead of deciding it “democratically”.
Yeah, and forget the dynamic where people with wealth will enthusiastically support issues they care about but will more than likely pay the bare minnimum if you take their money at gunpoint and spend it how “the people” see fit.
by putting money in a parking meter you’re stealing from the state?
I think it’s more “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
Yes. They don’t want your quarters. They want 80 bucks from the parking ticket.
Upset? It looked like pure (deserved) mockery to me.
I don’t think it was people paying other people’s meters. Rather, it was the bewitching charm of ladykiller Christopher Cantwell that Colbert wanted to release to a wider audience.
He’s not upset. But the fact that they’re challenging the government, and made a serious financial impact, give him the opportunity to mock the idea that libertarians will change the world by focusing on trivial things like parking tickets.
“it worked.”
You are counting chickens before they hatch move to NH.
Chickens are avowed statists. Only roosters are libertarians.
Cocks really.
I was waiting for that.
Guinea hens
Step One: Tear out the roadz.
And now I know how I can find peace with the commentariat: we bomb the shit out of the roadz.
lol
Step Two: Get everyone hooked on heroin.
‘The most successful internal migration movement in American history’
I think the Mormons might disagree with that.
Didn’t they get murdered everywhere until they got to Utah?
I believe they also endured some murdering when they got to Utah as well.
I think the Mormons were doing the murdering in your example…
In the first one, yeah. I think the example was part of a long chain of crazyness they were dealing with during their settlement of Utah anyway.
Well, look. At least they’re consistent. They’re still completely crazy.
As might the Okies and the members of the black movement north in the late 19th & early 20th centuries
That was more of a forced exodus than an intentional migration.
+1 seagull miracle
I considered it, but too cold. Let’s all move to Texas instead.
I’m here. We can BBQ at my house.
Wait, there are only like 10 of us, right?
Depends on what you’re BBQing.
Yeah, Ohio is bad enough. I’m not going further north. Tennessee more like it.
A fine state with no income tax
It was 55 at 8 pm last night here in NH
So, what I’m getting from this article…is that…Irish is racist.
That’s racist against the Irish, you Canadian bastard.
I also get that vibe.
I really hope you’re not being serious.
Only semi. As a native of a region with 4 real seasons I feel slightly sad for people who can’t handle them.
Exactly. All seasons are enjoyable for at least a few months, which is conveniently how long they tend to last.
Let me kick off my flip flops and think about that while I have a beer on my patio.
Climate privilege, yo.
You can enjoy your beer, but you can’t enjoy tiny pellets of snow smacking you in the face until you go numb while sledding down a hill.
Oh, but I will.
This sign is 20 feet tall. I’ll be there in 2 weeks, and it probably won’t even be visible at all.
And then I’ll come home.
Why couldn’t it snow like that when I lived in California?
El Nino?
When every day is the same, how do you derive any enjoyment out of any of them 🙂
It’s tough, but I manage. Somebody has to live the dream.
I do.
Let me kick off my flip flops and think about that while I have a beer on my patio.
and enjoy the view unencumbered by all the poories who are leaving in droves?
No idea. I live behind the gates.
I though NH only had two, winter and bad ice skating.
So… how many libertarians would it take before we could take over, say, California, or a Caribbean island?
Or we could take over somewhere close to the Caribbean…
http://www.cato.org/publicatio…..g-honduras
Did somebody say a libertarian takeover of a Caribbean Island?
Like Dominica? Its been tried. Well sorta allegedly
Congratulations to the Free State Project.
Indeed. I’m thinking of attending Porcfest this year.
Are porcupines even delicious?
Good question. I have a super old cookbook that has those types of recipes in it.
Chili. It’s always chili.
Burgoo
is that like booyah?
Took 11 yrs to get 18,000 and then just a month to get from there to 20,000. Is there a story here?
I’m sure Gillespie is working on another “Libertarian moment” piece for tomorrow.
Things are moving so fast that their website still says 19,800 have taken the pledge.
Something about hipsters and popular appeal.
It takes ten thousand steps to climb the mountain, offendi, but only one to get back down.
“”offendi””
Well i never
Trump is popular in New Hampshire, so obviously all the libertarians want to live there now. Because libertarians are just extra crazy right wing conservatives, like Trump. Or something.
Momentum. The closer it got to the goal the more the fence sitters decided to join.
Part of it was certainly the excitement in the last few months as we started gaining 1% new signers over short intervals. Part of it was the ‘trigger the move’ campaign that the head of the FSP started back a few years ago. Carla did the initial math and saw that she would be over 50 before this wrapped up and was not happy. She started to aggressively fund raise and use the money for more advertising, more outreach, and in the final months here a much more targeted social media blitz.
I donated a couple of $K
Yes.
Virtually nothing was done to promote the FSP for much of it’s history. Most had to stumble across it through some other means. Hell, most NH natives haven’t heard of it, and that’s with about 1800 already here.
In the past year or two, they’ve started spending money to publicize, and most recently had a heavy, paid Facebook campaign that brought great results.
IT was actually closer than that, but the big gap at the end was filled via donations for a FB ad campaign targeting libertarians.
The story will be how many of the first 7,000, who signed up 10 years ago, will still honor their pledge, or feel bound by it. The initial deadline was 5 years to reach 20,000. Hopefully the FSP will ping all 20K and see how many are still planning to move.
What about DC?
http://nbc4i.com/2016/02/02/dc…..it-crimes/
Muslims man yells at Swedes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rqBg8uDbg
That is very sad
He sounded like a schizophrenic homeless guy.
Yep. It was the bus, after all.
Here in NYC the buses are so clean you could eat off the floor and there’s not a crazy person in sight.
Things are a little different underground.
who was supposed to be crazy? The a-rab was yapping about how the swedes were responsible for the deaths of his moozie brothers in Afghanistan and Africa and how he’d kill a bunch of swedes if they tried to throw him out of their shitty country, which he hated. When the swedish man said that they didn’t have much of a role in Afghanistan, the arab moaned that anyone in NATO was equally complicit.
iow, he doesn’t seem “crazy” so much as run of the mill backseat-jihadi
Sweden isn’t even in NATO.
Or a Ron Paul supporter
Freedom’s just another word for no one else needs to move……..
Winner.
OT, but the Facebook feed is really lighting up with Bernie stuff. These are people I really like and get along with. I don’t want to get all political, but it’s so hard not to say something. Mostly just venting…I think my return to Facebook will end up being pretty brief.
Yeah, arguing politics on Facebook is pretty pointless.
But everyone wants to do it! I really don’t get it. Maybe if there was a candidate I felt strongly about, or maybe if I had a group of friends worth signaling my libertarianism to…but even then I think I’d be too self-conscious to blab about it. I always thought two things you didn’t talk about in polite company were politics and religion. I just don’t get the mentality of people who like to broadcast that sort of thing.
It’s signaling. I don’t bother with it. In fact if it gets really annoying I will stop following people and then just go to their page occasionally to stay in touch, scrolling through all the Derp. It’s just not a productive place to do that. Have them over for beers where you can talk rationally if you want to bring them over to the dark side.
No one ever seems to want to have that deep a conversation.
You don’t have to get that deep. An occasional remark when your hanging out that might make them think about something in a different way. No need to get all Jehovah’s Witness about it:)
I guess you’ve never heard the term “BBQ gun”…
Admittedly, my facebook footprint is pretty much zero – I’ve been tagged in one photo somebody else posted but have nothing up myself – but at least none of my “friends” there are very political. I only keep a page there to stay in touch with relatives who I don’t exchange e-mail with regularly. I’m not sure what I would do if things got heavy into politics.
I’m really just there for pics of the granddaughter and to make sure my kids are ok.
I am so happy my circle of friends are almost completely apolitical.
Most of mine mostly are, but many of them are feeling the BERN, or some such.
Just ask them if they think the federal government should spend 50 percent more per year than it already does.
Meanwhile in Texas:
License reader company offers trove of info to Texas cops, for a cut
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016…..tcmp=hpbt1
I think I’m gonna call this a night after making a mess of Bastianich’s name.
I hope I can look at myself in the mirror.
Isn’t that what you spend most of your day doing?
I signed the pledge over a decade ago. Shortly after New Hampshire was chosen. I’m from Connecticut. I was maybe 20 at the time, 32 now. I actually do plan on moving to New Hampshire soon. My long-term job here is ending and there is very little tying me down. I want to start an online business and I want a lower cost of living than CT.
It was always my intention to eventually end up in New Hampshire anyway; that’s why I signed it. No doubt I’m in the minority though. Most from that time, if they haven’t already acted, have long forgot about or are dead.
I wouldn’t move into Red Sawx territory at gunpoint.
If only they’d picked MT…
I’ll take cold and more liberty. Moved to NH in 2014 – every day reminds me it was the right decision.
OT: Listening to Sam Harris’s podcast tonight for the first time in a while….it’s weird hearing an American atheist advocate for war as hard as Rick Santorum.
He’s one of the few atheists to realize that Muslims kill them, while they just enslave Christians and Jews (at least that’s what they are supposed to, in practice they probably kill all the Jews they can and any Christian that gets on their wrong side that morning)
This atheist isn’t in favor of going to war with them. I just want us to drop some nukes on them. No need for boots on the ground or oxygen masks in the air. That’s why technologists created cruise missiles, so our young folk wouldn’t have to die when the superstitious knuckle-draggers get their panties all in a bunch and start waving guns in the air.
I sure wish there was a way to get the cats and dogs out of there first, though. Feline and canine collateral casualties really put a damper on the whole idea. But still, sad as that might be, we really should just nuke them.
New Hampshire is wonderful, I am sure. How about free stating California? We could use a few more Liberty minded folk. (Has anyone else had apple autocorrect that small “l” to a big one?)
Or they could start the FSP in Caracas….or maybe Beijing.
Baby steps.
You wouldn’t want to free-state California. With its huge unfunded liabilities and profligate spending, plus all the ridiculous laws and regulations, it would be like moving your home into the center of a minefield.
Better to pick one of the freest states and start with the highest chance of success. It would burn up all the free staters’ limited resources just to overturn the crazy gun control in Calif., leaving little energy and funds left over to tackle all the other fascism/socialism.
My company has an office in the middle of MA. I’ve often thought about taking a job there and commuting from southern NH.
That way you’ll get NH’s higher property taxes *and* Massholeistan’s income tax.
It is a great way to start. I’ve known plenty of people that moved and started with a job in MA. Some have kept it for a long time. Others used it as a stepping stone on the journey to liberty.
I signed the pledge, I think. But that was 15 years ago. I don’t think I’ll be moving.
It always amazes me the people who’d rather be warm than free and NH isn’t that cold anyway. As for the people who think Wyoming or Montana would be better choices they don’t know NH. If it’s any consolation Wyoming was the runner up state. However NH is the “live free or die” state, and once you meet people from here you’ll see that it’s not just a motto.
If there was a game company I could work for, I’d move too. I prefer a colder climate with distinct seasons, than I have in Texas.
Would someone knowledgeable be willing to get in touch with me regarding the free state project. I’m very interested. Not really sure what to think about it.
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