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- A gunman reportedly opened fire at a restaurant in central Paris, while a bar near Stade de France was the target of an explosion. Details are still vague but several casualties are being reported. Shooters may still be wreaking havoc. Update: Agence France-Presse is reporting that hostages have been taken at Bataclan concert hall. English-language live feed here.
- The Supreme Court has agreed to hear a challenge to a Texas abortion law brought by the Center for Reproductive Rights—the first time the Court will hear an abortion-related issue since 2007.
- Here's Ted Cruz's plan to "stop illegal immigration, secure the border, restore the rule of law, and protect Americans."
- The U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals will hear arguments in January over the striking down of parts of Utah's bigamy ban, in a case involving the Brown family of TLC's Sister Wives.
- "While Syrian refugees might seem like perfect candidates for [Liberland], the reality is more complicated."
- A Utah judge is backing down for now on his order to remove a 9-month-old foster child from a married lesbian couple because of their sexual orientation.
- A Texas teen's July death via cobra bite was ruled a suicide.
- RIP Carol Doda, "the Susan B. Anthony of" strippers.
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A gunman reportedly opened fire at a restaurant in central Paris, while a bar near Stade de France was the target of an explosion. Details are still vague but several casualties are being reported. Shooters may still be wreaking havoc.
I'll be excited when either barricades go up or someone flips a Citroen.
Hey!
Uh oh, is Fist dead?
Guess who the prime suspect is?
Mohammed?
Who? Oh, you're talking about Eugene.
Talking Of Eugene.
I gots things ta do.
So has France passed us in mass shooting per population size yet?
Don't know, but how about mass shootings per gun control law?
Chicago likely has them beat still.
POTUS' Hometown!
Its because of Indiana's lax gun laws that all the terrorists in Paris have full-auto AK's.
Derp.
I'm guessing no, but I'd be interested to see the mass violence numbers for France compared to the US.
If you include WWI and WW2, Algeria, then yes. Averages, etc...
This is obviously Paris, Texas. The gun control laws in Paris, France prevent such gun violence from happening there.
Paris, Texas knows how to hold an extrajudicial execution
Apparently the shot in central Paris were fired in three places.
At least 18 people dead.
The soccer game ended on Stade de France and the spectators are taking refuge on the field.
I'm not sure that's how refuge works.
Refuge= standing in the bullseye
A gunman reportedly opened fire at a restaurant in central Paris, while a bar near Stade de France was the target of an explosion.
Damned Presbyterians.
I blame Cambodian food.
How's that "Arab Spring" working out these days?
Hey, I have a brilliant idea: Europe should invite millions and millions more Muslims into their countries. That will make everything absolutely splendid.
Much more fun when there's a pile of bodies upon which do do the Political Theory Victory Dance!
Don't get mad at me dude, I didn't kill anyone. This is all the doing of your buddies (at least in your own stupid head).
By all means, keep on inviting more of them into the west by the millions though. Maybe they'll truly come to love and understand you when they become your next door neighbor and get to know you just a little better.
Oh and maybe the Europeans could subsidize their immigration? Then when they get to Europe, they could subsidize the immigration of their large inbred families too. Then once Europe is sufficiently middle Eastern in character, everything will be more betterer.
Mikey,
This is wonderful and inventive.
I'm not mad at you, and never accused you of killing anyone. None of my actual - or imaginary - buddies have anything to do with France.
I'm not inviting anyone anywhere, and have no expectations for the love of my neighbor.
But please, continue waving your bloody banner.
Control your sons. They might chop off their daughter's head and march down the street.
Now, I've been told this is more of that proggy 8th dimensional chess.
They are cleverly inviting in millions of upstanding, hardworking, productive people to be tax cattle for their welfare states. Genius!
Per Le Monde, France has instituted border controls for the time being.
CNN's claiming up to 60 dead so far. Hollande's on record saying "dozens of dead". At least one of the assholes in the theater is wired up with explosives.
What a fucking mess. And the French reaction is going to be even messier.
I was listening to CNN and they had a report from a reporter who was in the theater.
The reporter said 3-4 terrorists were firing for 10-15 minutes into the crowd. And that was before he got out. That was well over an hour ago.
It was a mess when they imported those fucking barbarians to begin with.
RIP Carol Doda, "the Susan B. Anthony of" strippers.
I know there's a typo in there, but I'm not going to point it out.
I tried to tip stripper a Susan B. Anthony dollar. Just because it fits into the slot doesn't mean it will get accepted.
Don't give anybody one of those racist SBA dollars, she was a racist-y racist who worked alongside a racist Democratic racist. Or at least so said the abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison:
"January 4th [1868]
"Dear Miss Anthony:
"In all friendliness, and with the highest regard for the Woman's Rights movement, I cannot refrain from expressing my regret and astonishment that you and Mrs. Stanton should have taken such leave of good sense, and departed so far from true self respect, as to be travelling companions and associate lecturers with that crack-brained harlequin and semi-lunatic, George Francis Train! ... The colored people and their advocates have not a more abusive assailant before him, to whom he delights to ring the changes upon the 'nigger,' 'nigger' ad nauseam. He is as destitute of principle as he is of sense, and is fast gravitating toward a lunatic asylum. He may be of use in drawing an audience; but so would a kangaroo, a gorilla, or a hippopotamus. It seems you are looking to the Democratic party, and not to the Republican, to give success politically to your movement! I should as soon think of looking to the Great Adversary to espouse the cause of righteousness. The Democratic party is the 'anti-nigger' party, and composed of all that is vile and brutal on the land with very little that is decent and commendable."
Well, hardly worse than Andrew Jackson or FDR.
Garrison was kind of high-strung.
Or *almost* was.
+2 eyes narrowed
Garrison using the English language in all its majesty.
"The Democratic party is the 'anti-nigger' party,..."
The more things change,...
From that era, I always thought Betty Page was much more interesting. Fuck Reason's 50-character limit. Google it yourself.
The Supreme Court has agreed to hear a challenge to a Texas abortion law brought by the Center for Reproductive Rights?the first time the Court will hear an abortion-related issue since 2007.
Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. It is so ordered.
Eddie has a semi.
Yes, Tonio, it is *so exciting* to hear that the Supreme Court will be issuing another abortion decision. Given all the wonderful abortion decisions they've given so far, I'm sure it will work out fine.
He didn't say "raging hardon".
Your mom used to give me raging hardons, like, 60 years ago.
She looked like Betty Page?
The obsession is cool and you are very well-adjusted.
Oh man, is mocking predictable posters considered obsession now?
I'm SORRY Fist for making jokes about you being dead when you don't post first, and Ted S. for using Opera and liking classic films. I didn't know we weren't doing the "I bet this really predictable person will respond predictably to this article" thing anymore.
Thanks for that, Jesse.
I'm going to give acosmist a mulligan on this just because it's Friday.
Happy weekend anyone whose still reading and has started your weekend.
You're just jealous that I have good taste in movies compared to the rest of you philistines.
Ahab-type adjustment? No thanks.
This could accidentally be a win for guns and free speech.
Hello.
Sad about Paris. I just read this about Sweden:
http://www.gatestoneinstitute......en-anarchy
Although not sure why this is anarchy. This is progressivism unhinged. When will the Europeans learn?
Indeed. A "failed state" is not anarchy.
That's just because Swedes are so racist. That, and their imperialist past. That's why Poles keep blowing up their restaurants, they just want the stolen treasures back.
That Swedish chick holding the shotgun could make me have an unintended discharge, if you know what I mean.
We have antibiotics for that you know.
Those things are a commie plot.
You're just disappointed that it's not a Swedish *man* holding that shotgun.
'That Swedish chick holding the shotgun could make me have an unintended discharge, if you know what I mean.'
SF'd?
Accidentaly discharged.
crap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsXJitaiVo
I think you mean premature.
If you let pigs in your house pretty soon you will be stomping around in pig shit. This is not hard to figure out.
Interesting quote:
Since Parliament decided in 1975 that Sweden should be multicultural and not Swedish, crime has exploded. Violent crime has increased by over 300% and rapes have increased by an unbelievable 1,472%.
Holy shit.
They did redefine the "rape" to basically mean what US feminists want it to mean. That explains the increase to a degree, but a lot of it was imported, yes.
Here's Pat Condell on the subject.
There isn't going to be any level-headedness about this will there? Europe is going to go from multiculturalism straight to hardcore nationalism with no stops in between.
Part of the problem is that any re-assessment of the situation, even well researched rational change, will bring shrill cries of "racism and genocide" from the SJW types. The terrorists know this and play the aggrieved victim status to the hilt.
"That explains the increase to a degree, but a lot of it was imported, yes."
There's really no evidence that the 'degree' is anything but 100%.
Studies can show anything, I guess, so short of God coming down from Heaven and decreeing something, then thunderbolting anyone who objects, yes, you don't have to accept anything you don't like.
Why wouldn't you want Sweden to be Swedish, particularly if you happen to be Swedish?
Privledge?
Because Swedes are inclined to socialism and other forms of creepy collectivism. 'Cultural preservation' is not a legitimate national foundation or government imperative.
Nor is cultural genocide or cultural self-immolation. It's the people's fundamental right to associate with or disassociate with anyone they want, however the government has collectivized that right and exercise it, poorly, on everyone behalf. That makes your little multicult just another government program.
Letting immigrants in is not a 'government program'. The term 'multiculturalism' is losing meaning.
Subsidizing their travel, subsidizing their existence, public accommodation laws and "hate speech" laws are preventing society from setting it's own natural tolerance levels to immigrants. Those are all government programs. This immigration is not the natural movement of people, it's a government program.
"It's not socialism." /european pinkos
I just kinda wonder, if the Swedes are not going to be Swedish then who will?
Parliament decided in 1975 that Sweden should be multicultural and not Swedish
wtf does this mean?
WHERE MUH SWEDEN GONE?
It also means the writer does not know the difference between cause and correlation.
A lot can happen in 40 years.
"rapes have increased by an unbelievable 1,472%."
And that's where I stopped reading. The "Swedish rape epidemic" has about as much evidence of its existence as the campus rape epidemic. Sweden rejigged its (weird) definition of rape in the early 2000s and much or all of the 'inrease' in rape prevalence is a consequence of that.
The 'immigration/diversity = crime' canard is disproven by NYC, Canada, and almost everywhere else with lots of immigrants and not much crime.
Shoulda known they'd have some wimpy Euro definition of rape.
Still, there seems to be some evidence of an increase in forcible rape due to immigrants:
Two reports from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BR?) are relevant to the rate of rape among immigrants to Sweden and their descendants. The latest published report that indicates the association between immigrants and rape was published in 2005 and revealed that foreign born individuals were 5.5 times more likely to be charged of rape than individuals born in Sweden to two Swedish parent.[37][38] While the report does not break down the foreign born category by country of origin, it has been found to be predictive of crime rates in other Nordic countries.[39] An earlier report published in 1996 by the BR? did break down rate of rape convictions by country of origin. It found that between 1985 and 1989 individuals with a foreign background made up 61% of all rape convictions. Ethnic groups with particularly high rates of rape included individuals born in Iraq, North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia), and Africa (excluding Uganda and the North African countries) who were convicted of rape at rates 20, 23, and 17 greater than individuals born in Sweden respectively.[37][9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.....Immigrants
Wiki, yes, but citing official Swedish data.
But are those rapes 'rape' or rape-rape? Seriously the definition is that bizarre. Also part of the definition problem is they have a weird way of *counting* rape too IIRC.
By any metric you measure, Muslims in Sweden (even when we don't count the second generation immigrants) are committing more rapes than their demographic represents in the whole of society. And just over half of those are forcible rapes of Swedish women by predominately north African and middle eastern men.
Yeah, importing people with a culture of sexual repression and body modesty into a sexually tolerant society and social nudity is going to work out just great. Also, blonde chicks.
The 'immigration/diversity = crime' canard is disproven by NYC, Canada, and almost everywhere else with lots of immigrants and not much crime.
Lol. Yes, Canada, with its 81% white, ethnically European population is a true model of diversity, you sad sack.
"RIP Carol Doda, "the Susan B. Anthony of" strippers. "
I hope that's not a physical description.
Unless I missed something in that part of my history class, after checking the link, no.
A gunman reportedly opened fire at a restaurant in central Paris, while a bar near Stade de France was the target of an explosion. Details are still vague but several casualties are being reported. Shooters may still be wreaking havoc.
I don't want to speculate before having the facts, but it was totally a tea partier.
For a second I thought you were going to be racist and attribute it to the Religion of Peace.
I love this place. Thanks, guys.
Maybe France hasn't closed their gun show loopholes.
"While Syrian refugees might seem like perfect candidates for [Liberland],"
Whut? To what idiot?
Cytotoxic?
Hitler?
Definitely Cytotoxic.
Dalmia?
Definitely her too.
Someone who actually wants Liberland to happen more than they shit their pants over foreigners. Apparently that's me.
We'd just like Liberland to last more than a few months, is all.
It'd probably be a good thing if Liberland didn't become the female genital mutilation capital of Europe right out of the gate.
A small price to pay.
Small price to pay? Fuck, you, YOU pay the price. Don't make others do so. There's a reason bastions of freedom aren't known to pop up in the middle east. It wouldn't be any different if you move the people of the middle east en masse to a civilized country either.
Explain this. Qatar is spending somewhere in the area of 100 billion USD to get ready for the World Cup they may or may not hold in 2022. Why the fuck can't they or KSA take in these guys? They're co-religionists, they've plenty of space, judging by the behavior of native Saudis it's not like the refugees would take any jobs away from them (cause Saudis don't lift anything heavier than a credit card)?
Why the hell is this Europe's problem?
Arab countries are run as patronage mills for the regional ruling tribes & their clients. They don't have a whole lot of communal love across arab nations for one another and certainly aren't opening their doors to any-all comers.
An Egyptian kid i went to college with said (and i believe he was quoting an Arab joke) =
"Who are the only people *all* Arabs hate even more than the Jews? = Other Arabs"
Experts = Taxes Cure Diseases
I'm of the opinion that 'experts' and their schemes to help tend to end up fucking up things as well as somehow turning into gulags and concentration camps.
So we're supposed to be taxed to subsidize sugar, and then get taxed if we actually consume what has been produced. I'd prefer neither, but logically not both.
Government needs to step in to solve a problem that government stepped in to create. When the solution causes still more problems, government will need to step in again. Around and around and around it goes....
"4.9 out 5 government subsidized researchers who study ________ agree that this is a problem only government can solve."
Experts, eh?
Safely ignore.
The disease of capitalist decadence
God, those donuts look good
Conspiracy theory: EverythingsAProblem guy quit last Friday, under the pretense that he found a Mary Sue essay that declared "Everything is problematic, including this post."
Now, this week, problematics are going crazy, people are losing their jobs, etc.
Could these events be connected? Is there a prime mover behind all of this idiocy, driving the SJW movement into overdrive? I wonder...
Could these events be connected? Is there a prime mover behind all of this idiocy, driving the SJW movement into overdrive? I wonder...
PC Principal?
I see climate deniers are starting their campaign ahead of the upcoming Paris summit!
On the topic, today's Mark Steyn post is all about the subject, and specifically about Bolivia's ten point action plan ("give us money, fuck off when we burn forests"). Go freely, he doesn't touch any other, icky subjects.
Good news, Campers! Mizzou Professor Melissa Click in trouble. [Trigger Warning: pictures of Melissa Click in links.]
A student journalist has filed assault charges against her, AND the school has filed a Title IX complaint against her.
Jesus, what a mess of Frankensteinian proportions.
Her clownish makeup?
Srsly?
I'm not even sure she's wearing makeup, but if she is it's not clownish so much as drab and uninspired, just like the rest of the way she presents herself to the world. She's a shrewish woman of a certain age with quite plain appearance who doesn't keep herself up. Clowns are at least garish.
She probably never imagined she would be the subject of a Title IX Complaint.
I know. Delicious.
Awesome, now her cause can have a martyr!
You may say it's not much of a martyr, but then, is it much of a cause?
One day, all the statues of the FF across the country will be replaced with SJW heroes.
Four more heads of progressive martyrs on Mount Rushmore will be added.
The more martyrs the better.
She looks like Carrot Top gone Caitlyn Jenner, therefore: Hero.
That's a start.
Let's see. We have assault, battery, and false imprisonment on the criminal side. And because she's an employee of the school, they're going to have to cough up a couple hundred grand in civil damages.
I wonder if right about now she's saying to herself and family, "what the fuck did I do?"
It should jolt people like her back into reality.
People will fight back. I hope these idiots realize this.
Rufus, I would love for that to be the case. But, seeing how most of her ilk respond in situations like this, she's probably doubling down on the derp, and blaming him for entrapping her, or some shit like that.
"...a series of racially-charged incidents on campus."
I keep hearing this but I have yet to read about details. I am guessing this is bullshit along the lines of 'the KKK is on campus'.
Well, that hunger-striker got hit by the President's car. And by "hit" I mean he walked into the car.
No, seriously.
FBI launches separate investigation in Jack Yantis shooting
AFP reports 18 dead, hostages taken in a concert hall.
I told people = One Direction was totally overrated.
An American band, supposedly a metal band, was playing the that concert hall.
That's funny stuff. Compelling and rich.
John Kerry Proudly Points to Only Middle Eastern Country the US Hasn't Completely Fucked Up
- Tunians Beg Kerry, "For Love of Allah, Stop Pointing at Us!! Stay Away!!"
*Tunisians.
They are not a nation of Fish.
Not that it negates the point but isn't Tunisia like right under Spain? Is Middle eastern more a state of mind than a geographic location?
Like a Corona commercial, but more explosions.
And a lot less, well, Corona.
"Less Corona, More Explosions" - that there's a marketing strategy I can appreciate.
I'll drink it if there's nothing else. Is there something else?
Yeah.
Explosions.
"Is Middle eastern more a state of mind than a geographic location?"
Yes. Technically its not the middle east at all, which is generally more synonymous with the Arab levant. Tunisia is part of the Maghreb, and mostly 'arabized' Berber.
but when it comes to teh Islams countries, people in the media tend to just lump everything ex-Iran into the "arab" world.
It's actually south of Italy. The Strait of Gibraltar is between Morocco and Gibraltar/Spain.
Italy...Spain ,meh, you say tomate i say pomodoro. They're both mostly smelly, swarthy Lotharios anyway.
Well, Sicilians are Africans anyways, amirite?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
/Andrew Dice Clay
Fuck yes, Sicily belongs to Carthage!
It's because people from wrong side of the ocean got a hold of colonial terminology and misused it.
North Africa encompases - shockingly - Arabicised countries in North Africa (Egypt, Lybia, Morocco etc)
Near East - former Ottoman posessions (Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon etc)
Middle East - Persia, Afghanistan, The Raj
Far East - keep going till you bump into Australia, Chile, Hawaii or Alaska.
It's a trap!
While I know reasonoids like to blame the US, those countries are completely fucked up all on their own. Amazing how the US is the cause of EVERYTHING that ever happens. Mexico is practically a third world country and it isn't because they have had corrupt, practically one party government since Independence, but because of America. The Islamic States were all practically Libertopia before the US became involved. A shame that none of it is true.
Gilmore has a particularly hard hard-on lately for blaming the troubles of Yemen and Syria on American 'intervention' based on the thinnest reeds. Also, last I checked, Algeria and Morocco weren't fucked up. Not great (especially Algeria) but not that fucked up.
Uh, what?
"Cyberpsychologist Mary Aiken thinks we need to understand cybercriminal motivations, while mentoring young people with tech and hacking skills"
Don't worry, she's an expert:
Which is a horrible show starring noted horrible person Patty Arqutte.
I'm waiting for it to conceptulate.
I'll hire the fornicaterer,
China: Taiwan Election Putting Off Tourists
Subtle as usual.
In two weeks I'm going to inspect the situation in Taiwan in person.
I agree with this sentiment.
My brother and his girlfriend brought home their newborn last night after four days in the hospital for the cesarean. I rent a side of the house somewhat insulated from theirs, and even through the cinderblock walls the barest piping cries of that child woke me from a dead sleep a few times. Should I buy earplugs or will I learn to ignore it?
I'd get earplugs
Earplugs. You're wired not to be able to ignore it.
Earplugs.
The joke when our kids were babies:I never heard a peep when they cried, but my wife awoke BEFORE they cried.
If there was a noise like someone breaking/unknown noise, I woke up immediately and already reaching for my gun case. The wife? She didn't hear a thing.
Shake the baby until it stops crying.
I always hated earplugs, but I found these and always make sure I have them on me when I'm traveling or my roommate has her bf over. They're much more comfortable than a lot of the other options. Running a fan on low might also be enough if it's just over the threshold of you hearing the baby.
I offered but for some reason she declined. Can't say she didn't look tempted, though...
I shouldn't laugh but I did. Thanks for reminding me I have no internal filters.
There's always Plan C:
List the kid on Ebay, and see what you can get for it. I would set a reserve at $20K, assuming its healthy.
Perhaps you missed the latest news, the bottom has fallen out of the market for used kids...
Really?
[checks baby futures for January delivery, curses, calls broker]
Thanks.
I have an opening at my Salt Mine ...
If manual labor isn't in the cards, I have an open position for a guard orphan. I like them slightly feral and with sharpened teeth.
White noise machine. That's the only way to handle a crying baby. Earplugs aren't going to cut it.
No one has stated the obvious, kick the brother and girlfriend out. Spitoon pays rent, no? Isn't he entitled to some peace and quiet?
It's not clear who has the power in this case.
"Congrats on the newborn. Get out."
There are white noise apps for your iPhone, and nature sounds.
Get blackout drunk every night before you go to bed. You won't hear a thing.
Or the kid.
Move out. When my damn landlords just had to have a fucking baby I reminded them subtly but clearly that excessive noise is what motivated me to leave the last place I lived in. They do a good job keeping their spawn quiet.
Consider a white noise generator.
RACIST!!!!!!!
Use reasonable.
Learn to take pleasure in the sound of the suffering of others
Trudeau orders crude oil tanker traffic moratorium for B.C. North Coast
So dreamy...
Fresh new freshness! He's making Canada liked again! Only sunshine!
He was literally compared to Obama on NPR. So...
...so, he'll also get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing?!
WE HAVE OUR CANADA BACK!
Please, take it back.
En fran?ais s'il vous pla?t
For Quebec.
? BigE55
Justin is doing what Canadians want .... not what big Business demands. He'll need some staying power to pull it off, and I truly wish him good luck. ??Cheers
? Dan Quixote
Another excellent move from the federal Liberals. Tough nougies Alberta - we don't want a massive spill on our coast.
GOT THAT ALBERTA? WE HAVE OUR CANADA BACK!
BC should just turn off the lights.
Northern BC should become its own province or country. I heard there is some sentiment for that there.
Alaska will take them, but they aren't getting any of the oil royalties.
What an asshole.
I heard from some other source that this 'formalizes' a proposed moratorium from 2010 or something.
I am sure that LNG will still ship. That's the politically correct liquid fossil fuel.
Live feed in French
This would be an excellent time for a Shikha Dalmia post to go up.
Ah, so I'm not the only one who suspects Hindu nationalists are behind these attacks.
Speaking of Her Who Writes, my favorite Reason non-staff contributor, Brendan O'Neill, has an article at the Spectator that is total Dalmia-troll:
Mr Modi, pls ask for freedom of speech in US
Read it again.
Fuck me, I meant to write "in UK". Because O'Neill lives there and Spectator is a UK magazine, and Modi is now visiting the UK...
No edit button, let the mistake stand!
Blame the Squirrels ...
It's always an excellent time for a Dalmia post she's usually pretty good.
Here's Ted Cruz's plan to "stop illegal immigration, secure the border, restore the rule of law, and protect Americans."
Why did Polk stop halfway?
American Exceptionalism.We're too damn nikce. Winfield Scott should have pushed South all the way to Tierra del Fuego.
We have a serious immigration problem in America.
Ted Cruz lost me with the first line of his immigration plan.
France appears to have a serious immigration problem.
France has a Muslim problem. A lot of their native born Muslims are just as radical.
Bingo!
A distinction without a difference.
A distinction with a very important legal difference, as you can't deport your own citizens.
Watch them, kbolino. France has a rep for going outside the law when it feels its national interests are at stake.
Hell, anyone think this country wouldn't lose its mind if something similar were to happen here?
Hell, anyone think this country wouldn't lose its mind if something similar were to happen here?
We would never do that...except for that time we did with the Japanese.
I have no doubt things will get ugly. What I do doubt is that the French have the balls to send them all back to Algeria. Because that will take more than just the stroke of a pen.
Mebbe a strike from Le Pen?
Mebbe a strike from Le Pen?
Pen in French is stylo, but yeah the rise of nationalism in France and elsewhere in Europe is a distinct possibility.
Sorry, that is a pretty good joke, and I killed it.
Yes, you did, damn you.
Also, the illegals coming into this country are looking to pick peaches and clean my house, not blow up a cafe.
A distinction with a very important legal difference, as you can't deport your own citizens.
[Emp. Mine]
Unless, or course, the "you" is Israel. Families, kbolino, whole families.
Oops, SF'd the linky.
It doesn't look like the people being discussed are citizens of Israel.
No they don't. Immigration has been a boon to France, which only has a socialism problem, and a gun-control problem ie citizens can't defend themselves.
Right, Hollande's socialism is shooting people in Paris.
May as well be. See the comment elsewhere about the high unemployment. You can give these people money doesn't compensate for not having a real future.
Right, because they moved to France for the job market, not the welfare benefits.
I'm 50/50 climate deniers/7th day Adventists on this one.
Look, there could be grain in that stadium.
It was definitely a silo explosion or workplace violence.
The stadium disintegrated in midair.
Global warming can't melt pyramid stones.
AGW CAN DO ANYTHING!
See, I'm 50/50 Presbyterians or Hindu nationalists.
I bet it's anti-tax libertarian right-wingers.
Right-wingers is superfluous.
Sanity at Claremont: We Dissent.
Of course, only white men penned this editorial.
Oh, hello Hannah.
Indeed!
Yes. Hannah is lovely and sane.
Followup editorial:
"We Transfer"
-1 Patriarchy.
An Asian woman is *basically* a white man, for social justice purposes, as Tony would tell us.
Its right there on the intersectionality chart.
I blame Bush
huh, 18 people killed, two 'splosions. I'm leaning more Joseph Smith now.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/.....index.html
The M.O. appears to be very mormon.
Telegraph reporting that the gunmen were shouting Allahu Akbar.
Shhhhh.
That doesn't mean anything. It's not like 7th day Adventists are the only ones who think God is Great.
So does Joan Osborne.
Is that Ozzy's sister?
At least Christopher Hitchens is off the hook.
Not "Kill for the love of Kali" ?
Telegraph reporting that the gunmen were shouting Allahu Akbar.
And after they are all killed, it will remain a mystery what their motivations were.
My condolences to the victims of whatever happened in Paris. To the perpetrators, they have my permission to rot in hell.
Indeed. Ditto.
They're already in France.
Shooting at the Bataclan began one hour into the concert of a California rock group called Eagles of Death Metal
OMG
there is something very wrong with me in that i'm suddenly worried that Josh Homme might possibly have been harmed
It would have been a mercy killing.
*ducks*
i almost feel worse now for being relieved to learn that Josh Homme did not go on the European Tour with the band.
And seriously man, you can't hate on QotSA.
The news reports are sort of odd in that they seem to be reporting both a steadily rising death toll while also suggesting there's still a hostage situation ongoing.
My first favorite album was QotSA. I hope he's ok too
Maybe the hostage situation is... devolving.
You know who else used a Hall as a place to start political violence?
Oates?
My mother?
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Boss Tweed?
Do they have beer at this "Hall"?
So when does Obama step in with one of his usual idiotic 'yeah but Christians' religious relativism in trying to appeal to 'calm'?
If he talks about middle-ages Christians, he'd be correct. It's all context, man.
Good thing ISIS is contained. Glad that threat is over.
Carol Doda? I remember the marquee of the theater she performed at in Frisco. Every year she had a bigger set of implants.
Remember, Muslims coming to Europe will make it more free. Seriously, what do you do about this if you are France? You can't have a so Jett where this kind of attack regularly occurs. Yet, it appeared ears you cannot have a society that includes Muslims and not have this sort of thing.
And this looks like a great time for a Sheldon Richman piece blaming the attacks on Israel and the US.
You can't have a so Jett, appeared ears
WTH?
Its a first draft man, he's still piecing his argument together
Fucking auto correct. It appears you can't have
What? What?! You're killing us!
I still need to know what a so Jett is!!
You can't have a society where these kinds of attacks regularly occur.
"Yet, it appeared ears you cannot have a society that includes Muslims and not have this sort of thing."
Except in Albania, Kazakhstan, most of the Balkans, Guayna, So Jett, etc
Remember, Muslims immigrants coming to Europe will make it more free. -Fixed for truth
I'd hope that after the Charlie Hebdo insanity that Paris would have their super-SWAT units on constant standby
With islamic terrorist, there is little prospect of any "hostage" situation being resolved in anything short of a bloodbath; you'd think they'd know this and act as fast as possible
I'm guess we will see what happens when France gets pissed. If this won't do it, I can't see anything that will. Can they invoke the NATO defense treaty?
How about letting their citizens be armed? That is crazy talk I know
This and ending states that sponsor Islamic terrorism are literally the only things that will really help.
President Carter could negotiate a peaceful end.
Another market (Les Halles) reporting gunfire in Paris.
It's the guns people! We must disarm ourselves to keep terrorists from attacking us!
It is just a matter of time before this happens here. Just thank God for the 2nd amendment. At least we can defend ourselves
Unfortunately the reality in most urban places-- the places where terrorists are likely to attack, it's probably one in hundreds of civilians carrying.
Yup. It would take a few of these to get enough people carrying to be able to make a difference.
We would be so much safer if we just left our defense up to the racist police /prog
re: Terrorist attacks against the French...
...for some reason i'm imagining a symmetry between the way SJW college kids attack 'soft targets', knowing how they will react,. and the fact that there have been far more 'terrorist' incidents in Europe since 9/11. (not just because they have a larger immigrant muslim pop)...
...that, I imagine whomever coordinates terrorist attacks expects *predictable results* from attacking Europe.
...or at least, the 'predictable results' from Attacking America are probably just "we'll keep bombing you, harder", whereas the French are possibly more likely to try and stop doing what they were doing before.
You are going all Cyto on this one. Is that normal for you? It is for me.
"" going all Cyto on this one""
really? I thought that would require me making proclamations of certainty about things I have no actual grasp on, while insisting that this was proof I was right all along in my recommended policy of "Bomb Anyone Brown - Let Anyone Immigrate"
I was just speculating that the fact "france" gets attacked is possibly because they're probably perceived as being "influence-able". and that it was nothing more than an impression.
And getting all Eugenics on babies that have below-normal IQs
Interesting observation. That's definitely part of it, but there's also a very different attitude towards migrants.
You get to the US, you work hard, your kids work hard, and you can succeed.
Contrast with France - unemployment among the kids of migrants in France is very high (in part because crazy French labour laws make hiring and firing so hard, so they prefer kids they know) and the French response is to shovel welfare money into the banlieus and otherwise pretend they don't exist. Free money and TV don't compensate for knowing you've been written off. Those with skills often go to London; the rest stay home and nurse their animus and alienation towards mainstream society.
I don't think this kind of thing has happened as often here because Americans are so much better armed and generally more dangerous. Americans would not tolerate this shot and it would end with a lot of dead Muslims and I think the radicals know that.
Let's not forget Garland, where an attempted terror attack never even got through the door. Sure, it was a cop who did the shooting, but at an "everybody draw Mo" event in Texas, how many attendees do you suppose were armed?
France's social dysfunction is far more important me thinks. Thank the welfare state. The youth unemployment is what really scares me.
Well, at least we know it wasn't Johnny Jihad .... or do we???
Day pass from Paradise for him and a crack squad of virgins?
Interesting.
These attacks are happening just as the trial for the attack of the Jewish grocery in France in 2012 is about to go forward.
Ooh...that IS interesting. Let's see if that comes up at all over then next few days.
I'm not really that said Mizzou resigned. He and those like him are pansy-ass liberal folk who would be fine putting people they don't like in a 'free speech zone'. Watching them get it is like watching an non-ISIS Islamist get offed by an ISIS one. The SJW mob may just shake up college management. The pussies are getting removed. What replaces them....
What replaces them....
The truly committed.
Holy shit, deathtoll up to 60.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/.....index.html
A lot more Charlie H's. They asked for it. Without being prepared.
HOO BOY.
Get your Vodka Crans ready:
France Closes Borders
http://www.thedailybeast.com/c.....rders.html
*ahem*
Cape Cod
I predict they'll make a big show of being angry for a few days, but they won't do shit. I give it a week or two tops before it's like nothing ever happened. They'll probably invite a couple more million in.
Western Europe is even more hopelessly retsrded than our campus SJWs. It'll take a nuke going off in London or Paris or Berlin before they finally pull their heads out.
Lets hope you're right. 'Doing something' usually leaves us a lot less free.
Maybe they can declare the entire city to be a giant "safe space".
Isn't that basically what gun control is?
Yes, that's exactly the reasoned response I'd expect. "There's been a terrorist attack-let's fuck up travel and trade and thereby give victory to the terrorists."
The US shut down airline travel for how many weeks? God the fucked people's shit up.
What's the age limit for the Legion d'Etrangere? I'm pissed.
Meh, I wouldn't sign up unless they retake Algeria or Indochina. They don't have to keep them--just prove they can win.
The Legionnaires chewed up Boko Haram pretty good recently, if memory serves.
I didn't say they lost all their battles, just the big ones.
I thought they were chewing up AQIM not BH?
There's something going on called Operation Barkhane but it is phrased as "anti-terrorism" in general and doesn't specifically mention the Foreign Legion or Boko Haram.
Ah yes the Mali adventure. Funny I remember the Reason writers talking about it skeptically because you know QUAGMIRE. Then they went very quiet about it when France unequivocally defeated AQIM.
They can be predictably ignored on anything involving foresight or strategy in foreign policy
18-40
It's bitterly ironic that this happened during the faux campus outrage that's sweeping the mother bleeping USA.
Let's all watch the coddled student activists in peril of microagression shout "Islamophobe" at anyone condemning radical islam for actually terrorizing people. Without batting an eye.
Yahoo news story with over 5,000 comments so far. A new one every second.
This was designed to take "free college" off the front page. (I musta misplaced my metal hat).
At the bar. Piles of bodies.
From my link above:
"There is a lot of dead people, it's pretty horrific, to be honest," Ben Grant, who was inside a Parisian bar when the shooting took place, told the BBC. "It's a little bit difficult to have this conversation right now, I'm not going to lie."
Caitlin Dickson
16 minutes ago
In a phone interview with the BBC, Ben Grant described the scene at the Parisian bar he was at with his wife when they heard gunfire: "I was at the back of the bar, so I couldn't see anything, I just heard the gunshots. People dropped to the ground, we managed to put a table over our heads to protect us and just hold tight until it finished. We were sort of held up in the bar because the pile of bodies in front was too much for my wife to walk over. We waited inside until just now we got led out."
They're executing the theater hostages one by one as the hostages are calling the police and crying for help.
5 explosions at the concert hall.
Friday the 13th.
Shit, it's the violent movies' fault! We thought it was video games, but it was always the movies!
Hillary's gonna blame it on a movie, so....
Nov. 13, 2015
I know, but the double meaning of the phrase "Friday 13th" as a reference to a popular series of horror films...
Yes, joke, you were born lame, murdering you at this point is a mercy.
But not like this! It deserved at least a chase through a deserted house, finally to be dispatched by a chainsaw or axe
Well my Friday the 13th birthday was a different month. So there is that. OTOH October is not far (space-time wise) from November.
Police have stormed the concert hall
Oh shit, I'm going to hell. My first thought was "...and are playing Every Breath You Take".
We still have some pretty weird cults in Texas...
Nadir, not zenith.
Not even. This has only just begun to spread, and until the rewards dry up (no more caving in to any demands) and the instigators are punished, for realz (expulsion for students, firing for staff, and criminal charges for any who deserve them), we haven't hit the peak.
Whatever, it's all the mom's fault anyway, not yours.
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Be glad the link didn't work. It's twitter.
You can hear an explosion in the background during the game.
In Seattle, that would merely mean the Sounders just scored.
MOST FIRSTEST FAVORITE FOREVERS
pffft
Thank god no one is armed in Paris.
I have a feeling this is going to spread to other countries in Europe.
and btw, I totally don't have a Josh Homme poster in my locker so don't even ask
Still waiting for the Guardian to mention it. *shocked face #2*
Weren't the Finns the ones housing the refugees in shipping containers?
I'm 32 and stingy, yes
Well I'm just glad that American college students have their priorities right and care about the important Freedom stuff
Point of order, the Doobies thought Jesus was merely 'ok' and 'alright'. Hardly great.
I believe the people doing the shooting are "marginalized peoples". So...
Were they planning on shipping them back?
Do movements tend to prosper after going into batshit insane mob violence? Even the French Revolution went downhill pretty fast after that point. Apex it is.
Who loves rock n roll!
He's just making shit up at this point.
Is he that stupid or is he just really trying to avoid the appearance of blaming Islam?
Do movements tend to prosper after going into batshit insane mob violence?
When that mob violence delivers control, I would say they are prospering, yes. See, also, every successful revolution, ever.
yes and yes.
By February, I suspect a few of those shipping containers will be all they need to return the remains for burial.
C'mon lap, he's the ginger it's OK to love.
The French Revolution didn't really prosper after the Red Terror. There was the White Terror, Napoleon, etc
Or suicide vests detonating.
Were dogs allowed in the theater?
Put another dime in the jukebox, Baby ...
Word salad on the teleprompter ...
Amazing how much noise the parents and siblings of those players can make.