Criminal Justice

6,000 Felons Released From Prison. Why You Shouldn't Worry.

Low-level, non-violent drug offenders with no history of violence.

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Has President Obama released 6,000 violent criminals ready to roam the streets of America? Not even close, says Kevin Ring of Families Against Mandatory Minimums. Ring told Reason TV Editor-In-Chief Nick Gillespie that the people being released are almost all low-level, non-violent drug offenders with no history of violence.

"There [are] very few violent prisoners in the federal system, those are mostly in state prisons," says Ring who also points out that a number of these prisoners are going to be deported anyway.

Ring, a former Republican operative, says conservatives should take a second look at corruption at the Department of Justice (DOJ).

"If conservatives looked at [the DOJ] like they looked at EPA or FDA, they'd see the same sorts of abuse, fraud, and overzealous abuse of power." For more, watch, "Don't Be Afraid of Those 6,000 Felons Just Released From Prison."

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  1. What? Me worry?

    1. Human sacrifice! Cats and dogs living together! Mass hysteria!

  2. Shouldn’t worry? Wait until they’re on YOUR children’s playgrounds making little Billy and Jane shoot up the marijuana! Soft on crime!

    1. Who cares about drug dealers? These are Federal Felons! What if some of them are like Martha Stewart? Betcha didn’t think about that, didya.

  3. The bad thing about this is that none of those people will be able to get decent jobs. They’ll become dependent on government assistance and they might actually become hardened criminals because they’ve been marginalized and turned into half citizens, for life, with no chance to make a real go at a decent life. This is a serious issue in today’s American, no one is given a 2nd chance, doesn’t matter if they didn’t do anything really violent or not, a felony is a felony and it’s a life sentence.

    1. They’ll be able to get jobs. No big company that can afford to do background checks and tell otherwise qualified job candidates to screw will hire them, but many sole proprietorships and family run businesses will hire felons. When I worked in restaurants I worked with plenty of felons. Even a convicted murderer. Sure it will be more difficult to find decent work, but it is out there if they try hard enough to find it.

      1. Right, what I’m saying is that professional level jobs are out of reach for them. What kind of incentive do they have to seek more education and better themselves when no one will hire them? It’s total bullshit, they’ve served their time and they should be returned to society as complete citizens with all the opportunities of anyone else. We need justice reform, but it needs to be real, not just a half ass effort.

        The difference between libertarians and other political leanings is that libertarians actually care about other people’s problems, not just their own.

        1. I’m starting to think discrimination is in human nature. Most people want someone they can discriminate against. Smokers, felons, druggies, people of other faiths or political persuasions, not to mention race or skin tone. It just seems to be in our nature. Progressives don’t want anyone to be allowed to discriminate against someone for something that isn’t their fault. Like their sex or race. But they love to discriminate against people who exhibit signs of badthink. You know, the people they label as “intolerant” (the great irony is that progressives show their tolerance by being intolerant). Conservatives do the same to a lesser degree, though they’re more than happy to discriminate against druggies, gays, foreigners, and others. So then the government steps in and says when it is OK to discriminate and when it is not. In the case of felons, I don’t believe the government will ever say that’s not OK. After all, if you’re a felon, then you have identified yourself as someone who doesn’t always ask permission and obey orders. Of course the government wants such people to be discriminated against.

          1. “I’m starting to think discrimination is human nature”

            Speak for yourself, racist.

            1. Don’t try to play a man’s game, son.

              You don’t have the acumen.

              1. He shit the bed pretty hard this morning. It was pretty sad.

                  1. Don’t try to deflect from your obvious misogyny with the dumb pic you got off the internet. Have you been divorced like 4 times or are 60 and never been married?

              2. “Man’s game”

                Sexist. You probably think Don Draper is a role model. Sexist egotistical bigots like you end up tied up to Dolly Parton and lily tomlin’s bed.

                1. Could you be any more butt-hurt?

                  It’s like I say: the new troll: he comes to get ideologically butt-hurt, not to give it.

        2. You are confused because you have dropped the context. When you proclaim the unfairness of someone choosing not to hire felons, who and what are you betraying? Even if a person becomes a felon unjustly (for something that shouldn’t be a crime), how likely is it that this felon would have a better resume than the guy who was rightfully hired? One guy earns graduate degrees in electrical engineering and lives according to purpose, the other is a deadbeat who gets busted and blames his dereliction on everything and everyone but himself–who would *you* hire to be a technical salesman?

          I consider the context and rights of everyone involved: the (nominal) felon, the potential employer, the rightful function of the state.

          1. C+ effort at objectivist mad libs.

          2. ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

    2. That’s not always the case. I have an old friend who served a short stint in Leavenworth after committing a plethora of class C felonies yet managed to turn his life around and get HVAC certified. He currently still works in the field and manages to provide for his two children. Not exactly his dream profession but, he maintains a decent standard of living. Unfortunately, his case is far from the norm and most employers aren’t as understanding as his. It can be done but it definitely stacks the odds against you.

      I’ve often wondered what the good people on this blog think of the idea of slightly extending prison sentences for nonviolent criminals for the trade-off of having their criminal records expunged from the public record.

      1. Well, I can tell you what I think. You did the crime and you did your time, and that’s it. But as a society we’ve managed to create a system where people get partial life time sentences for just about anything.

        Once someone has served their sentence, they need to return to a normal life. If you want to say, ok, you did something really bad, a robbery using a weapon or someone was assaulted, you still need to give that person a 2nd chance after they’ve served their time. If you want to give them a sentence of 10 years prison plus 10 years probation before the stigma of a permanent record is removed, then do it. But let them live a normal life after that, otherwise you are creating a system with a permanent marginalized class. It’s not good, I’m not sure how any intelligent person would think that it is.

        1. I agree. Either a person has been rehabilitated and should be free to be a productive member of society without stigma, or they should be locked up (or dead). No in between.

          1. Our government loves nothing more than they love an atmosphere of uncertainty. That allows them to fuck with you in perpetuity whenever they please. There are so many laws and they are so vaguely defined, no one even lawyers knows all of them, that you could be breaking the law at any time and not even know it. Then we invented lists and life sentences for everything. We’ve created partial citizens. And no one even knows how any of it works. I think this is called totalitarianism.

          2. How do you propose to implement this dichotomy? Forbidding discrimination against felons by employers wouldn’t be very libertarian.

            1. What is a felon? I presume that it’s someone who is currently being punished for a felony. It’s pretty difficult for anyone to hire that person, since they are in jail. Now, they’ve served their time and are out. Are they still a felon? What I’m asking is if you are for life sentences for every crime?

              1. A felon is someone who has committed a felony. Is this a hard word?

                1. A felon is someone who has committed been convicted of a felony. Is this a hard word?

                  For the smartest guy in the room, you sure are stupid.

                  1. Mr. Manhattan: Wrong again.

                    Full Definition of FELON

                    1
                    : one who has committed a felony

                2. Well there is felony robbery. And felony smoking a joint.

              2. After they serve their time, they go on the non-sex offenders list.

              3. After they serve their time, they go on the non-sex offenders list.

            2. If only the girls at school could see how edgy and dangerous you’re being right now.

              1. If only the girls at school could see how edgy and dangerous you’re being right now.

                This comment pleases me.

  4. I presume this retroactive “relief” to drug sentences is what caused this guy to get released early. (he otherwise had a life sentence)

    I have something of a man-crush on him.

    1. They took away 26 years of this guy’s life over a fucking plant. There is no proverbial hell hot enough for them to burn in.

    2. I feel a little happier now, thanks G.

  5. Nick notes =

    “this is a moment when everyone, the right, the left, progressives, libertarians, are in for criminal justice reform…”

    I would suggest that despite this, 1) none of the candidates for president will actually campaign on this, or even breathe mention of the possibility, and 2) left-media will characterize anyone on the right (like libertarians) as only advocating criminal justice reform as part of an attempt to deflect accusations of Racism, to reduce the influence of people like #BLM, or some other such conspiratorial explanation …. just like they did on issues like Drones, or the NSA… and that the issue will largely be abandoned in favor of something something something MIDDLE CLASS!! instead of something that might help out ‘underclasses’ like felons.

    1. The left and progressives (one and the same) will never stand behind anything like this long term. Their ideal requires a strong state which will deliver their utopia by any means required. You cannot have such a state and be lenient on those who have defied the state.

      Cosmotarians, living in their little cosmo world.

      1. Yes, those law and order leftists sure do love the police state. *derp

  6. Philanthropy has rules, dammit.

    The disaffection isn’t merely manifested in a few protesters blocking Google shuttle buses or in Tesla-hating, or in labor unions fighting the “sharing economy.” Nor is it just the economists who complain that tech companies like Google and Facebook are monopolies ? the Standard Oils of the moment.

    Academics and relief workers have been grumbling for a while about so-called philanthrocapitalists who try to micromanage their giving. The writer David Rieff questions the tech-centric approach to fighting global poverty of the Gates Foundation in a new book, “The Reproach of Hunger.” In “The Prize,” the journalist Dale Russakoff looks at what went wrong with Mr. Zuckerberg’s $100 million gift to Newark to resurrect its schools.

    Rob Reich, a political-science professor at Stanford who is also a co-director of the Stanford Center for Philanthropy and Civil Society, notes that the tax deduction that comes with a billionaire’s grant to charter schools is essentially money that won’t be spent on public schools, calling Silicon Valley largess “an exercise of power that is unaccountable, nontransparent and tax-subsidized.”

    Who do those snot-nosed kids think they are?

    1. ” what went wrong with Mr. Zuckerberg’s $100 million gift to Newark to resurrect its schools”

      Well, probably the fact that the money went to the Newark Public schools rather than a more worthy recipient like a hole in the ground.

      1. The problem with Newark public schools has nothing to do with money.

        Prior to Zuckerberg’s money, they were some of the best funded schools in America. Newark is an Abbott district – a district like several others – that has received since about 1985 and continues to receive extra funding via the state of NJ. Abbott districts typically spend double the New Jersey public school norm per student.

        It was never about money. Every dipshit with half a brain knows that.

        1. And individuals like Rob Reich hate the rich giving money because they typically demand some level of accountability that NGO’s hate providing. That’s “micro-managing”.

          Singer’s Robin Hood foundation is famous for driving the NGO parasites insane because they demand provable results. Those bastards.

    2. Is that the former Clinton cabinet secretary Robert Reich or are there two douchebag leftist Robert Reichs out there?

      1. He’s a professor at Berkeley now. If you were actually a professor, you’d already know that.

        1. I’m not a professor.

          1. OK, so who were you before you opted for this sock?

            1. It’s a tribute to Alice in Change.

              1. I hope that’s a typo.

                I’ll gladly snuff the rooster, however.

          2. What do you currently do for a living?

            1. How stupid do you think I am to give out personal info on the internet?

              1. Rooster|11.9.15 @ 12:06AM|#
                “How stupid do you think I am to give out personal info on the internet?”
                About as stupid as to presume anyone would take you for more than a pathetic attention whore. Doesn’t your dog like you?

              2. I just asked what. Not who, where, when, or why.

                No reason to be shy.

                1. Considering the irrational dislike some here have taken, there is plenty of reason.

                  1. Then fucking leave and don’t come back.

                    How fucked in the head does one need to be to frequent a place where he’s despised and needs to change his handle every day to get people to talk to him.

                  2. Rooster|11.9.15 @ 12:37AM|#
                    “Considering the irrational dislike some here have taken,…”

                    Shitbag, no one here dislikes you irrationally. Why should they? There’s more than enough reason to despise you for perfectly rational considerations.
                    Oh, and fuck off.

          3. I think get it now. If I understand correctly, you and I have the same level of education in mathematics, which is an undergraduate degree from a relatively prestigious university?

      2. You’re not funny Tom. You’re fat and *look* as though you should be. But you’re not.

        1. +1 Guy Ritchie

    3. Nor is it just the economists who complain that tech companies like Google and Facebook are monopolies ? the Standard Oils of the moment.

      “Economists.”

  7. OT = Missouri Football team wants the president of the university kicked out… because Institutional Racism?

    “…the Missouri football team “will no longer participate in an football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students’ experiences.”

    Sounds like its not even something ‘he did’, so much as stuff he didn’t do…

    i read the article, and what they seem to cite are “poor relations with protestors”, rather than any citation of incidents of racism being protested. There’s not enough black professors? I can’t even tell if the protests are about “something”, or if they’re just “we want attention and we got the wrong kind so now we’re hunger-striking and stuff”

    …OH! now i remember. I linked to this the other day.

    Something about a swastika made from human poop

    1. So, they want the President fired or to resign because what? He didn’t eradicate racism after some incidents?

      1. Either Missouri is more racist than anywhere else in today’s America or somebody is making shit up. Either way it’s snowflakes all the way down.

        1. Concerned Student 1950 has organized various demonstrations in the past month, centering on Wolfe’s failure to respond appropriately following what Missouri graduate student Jonathan L. Butler described as a “slew of racist, sexist, homophobic” incidents on the university’s Columbia, Mo., campus.

          The boilerplate naming of grievance groups is what has me thinking this is just prog-driven agit-prop.

          1. “”failure to respond appropriately””

            BEG, SCRAPE, WEEP FOR US, GIVE US FREE SHIT

            what the fuck is “appropriate”?

            its the same griefer nonsense that the Yale kiddies were giving the glorified Resident Advisor who said, “Um, Costumes are free speech and aren’t intended to be hateful…”- –

            – BUT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY!!
            – how, exactly?
            – Well that’s YOUR JOB

            Increasingly, i’m getting the impression that the moaning and public self-flagellation / starving etc. isn’t about “getting something” in return….its not a means to an end. The griefing is an end in itself, and is its own reward. Its like a bicycle-pump for the ego.

          2. I’d like to know how many of these kids are there on full scholarships or federal grants.

      2. “because what? He didn’t eradicate racism after some incidents?”

        As far as i can tell. The WaPo article is an exercise in narrative-creation.

        They lead with the sob-story about the guy’s hunger strike, and when the reader expects… “well, what is he striking *for*?…”…

        …the writer goes off on a context-forming blather trying to connect the dots between Missouri’s history as a former slave state, the protests in Ferguson…. and how students felt that the Uni administration wasn’t ….”something” enough….

        “… even as he and his friends were holding signs and chanting on Ferguson’s streets, he was surprised, as he sees it, to see his university do little to address the racial tensions simmering in the same state.

        “There was national coverage, so for the school to not cover that or really address that, and we are only two hours away, I think was a huge mistake on their part and contributed to the current cultural environment that we have,”

        WTF would he expect the university to do? Cancel the semester and have a Heal-Fest/Drum Circle?… its the same BS as the Yale whiners… students begging administrations to provide some non-articulated magical solution to their icky feels.

        So, ferguson…then someone was called the N word…. and now there’s a poop-swastika. So = Hunger Strike to make the president resign. Makes sense, right? Right.

        1. Just like killing Keystone will heal the earth.

          1. Well, what it actually does is award the oil transport monopoly to Warren Buffet. I guess he can now whine even more about how he’s not taxed enough.

    2. The problems in Columbia began on Sept. 11. That’s when Payton Head, the Missouri Students Association president and an African American, was racially abused as he walked home.
      “Last night as I walking through campus, some guys riding on the back of a pickup truck decided that it would be okay to continuously scream N?? at me,” Head wrote on Facebook the next day. “I really just want to know why my simple existence is such a threat to society.

      I don’t think I can really add much to this, other than to draw attention to it.

      1. Jesus… grow a pair, dude.

        1. Sound advice for a large portion of society lately.

      2. I dont doubt that sort of thing actually happens.

        …still, i find the Poop-Swastika and the midnight mystery Rednecks remarkably convenient props for their passion play.

        (*they just had to be in the *back* of the pickup truck, right? it perfects the cliche. its like being raped on a pile of broken glass. gratuitous)

        After things like Oberlin & UVA…. and a strong-suspicion that the Berkley High School incident is going to turn out the same… … the Crying Wolf about the white supremacist patriarchy is getting a little old.

        Of course, we ourselves always have AmSoc to provide us with genuine racism

        1. Last night I was awoken from a heavy slumber by the sight of a large cross burning in my front yard, which was surrounded by men in white hoods who chanted racial epithets at me.

          You would think that would have been the worst part of my night, but when I opened my front door to go outside to put out the burning cross, I was greeted with a large, wicker, basket that contained many packets of breath mints as well as a few bottles of mouthwash. Included in the basket was a note that said “ur breath is stank boy.”

          1. I only believe half of that.

    3. Let me guess, the poop swastika is racist because a white liberal didn’t create it for a modern art gallery, right?

  8. But, but, but these people are going to be selling drugs to your children the second they are released! Drugs! Children! Think of the children!

    1. This. Soft on crime. Scary boogeymen are scary. Needz moar gubmint to protect us.

      1. Seriously. I was listening to Howie Carr (New England conservative talk show host) on the drive home the other day and this was the subject. He was getting all hyperbolic about how these people being released will immediately start selling drugs and corrupting society. I find the guy entertaining at times, but sometimes he goes full retard. Like John on immigration or the military. Total. Fucking. Retard.

        1. It’s all the holier than thou mentality. If something doesn’t affect me, then fuck the people who it does affect. Me, I never made any mistakes, so fuck everyone else, they should be more like me.

          Libertarians are pretty much the only people in politics who do not subscribe to the holier than thou bullshit.

          1. Libertarians are pretty much the only people in politics who do not subscribe to the holier than thou bullshit.

            Yet that’s what we’re accused of whenever we oppose some policy or edict.

            1. You can’t help some people. You aren’t a member of their tribe, therefore you must have bad intentions.

          2. Libertarians are just as prone to needlessly paint their opponents as moral monsters as any other group.

            1. And far more likely to be accurate in the painting.

              1. Libertarians are just as prone to needlessly paint their opponents as moral monsters as any other group.

                This post makes you literally as bad as Adam Lanza.

              2. Accurate or not, it’s needless and counterproductive.

                1. Sorta like your posts?

                2. “Accurate or not”

                  If it is not accurate nothing can be done except tell the truth. Unless we can get a law passed to persecute the offenders.

        2. “Howie Carr”

          But of course you listen to that bigot, because you are a bigot.

          1. And you would know – it takes one to know one.

      1. Because I’ve *met* them.

  9. Speaking of Randy Lanier

    Excellent article.

    1. I fixed the headline:

      How I Got Back in a Race Car After Drug Trafficking self righteous authoritarian dickweeds sent Me to Prison for 26 Years

  10. Why the hell am I getting an ad about the ultimate hoodie collection for men? Is that what supporting serious criminal justice reform gets you?

    1. Firefox + Adblock Plus = no adds

      Doesn’t help if you’re using your phone though.

      1. On my PC. I’m using adblock and ghostery, still getting these side ads.

        1. He meant NoScript.

        2. I use AdBlock on Chrome – zero ads.

    2. “Why the hell am I getting an ad about the ultimate hoodie collection for men?”

      Hates Mexicans and Black guys. Who did you root for in the Trevon Martin case? The KKK, probably.

      1. I didn’t root for anyone in the Trevon Martin case, you fucking moron. I don’t play team sport for politics the same as idiots like you do.

      2. Right. You know that *Trayvon* was the one wearing the hoodie? You’re so racist you couldn’t even get his name right.

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  12. this is one of those rare occasions Obama is doing the right thing AND is doing aright thing that happens to be libertarian as fuck!!!

    Huge props

    I’m no partisan. I prefer repubs on average more than Dems but when a Dem does something great – I’m first in line to stand beside them

    GOOD for Obama

    There IS good political news and developments out there, reasonoid best is the enemy of the good cynicism aside

    We’ve seen MJ legalization in my state, substantial privacy (search and seizure) expansions, reinforcement of right to open carry w/o permit, continued no income tax, and on the national level we’ve seen Heller, Macdonald, overturning of DADT, gay marriage law of the land etc

    Definitely some positive developments. It’s not all negative

    1. :”this is one of those rare occasions Obama is doing the right thing AND is doing aright thing that happens to be libertarian as fuck!!!”

      Obama had nothing to do with this. And the Obama justice department argued against this release-program. If you actually watched the video you’d understand that. The US Sentencing Commission made a decision to reduce drug-sentencing guidelines last year, and it was applied retroactively.

      1. You can bet Obama’s going to take credit for it, as long as there aren’t any Willie Hortons among the released.

    2. Mr. Kisses Dunphy ain’t half bad in spite of a fucking rep. But, love, Obama and his strange eclectic team of baby Marxists would be fucking super happy leaving all those drug dudes behind bars if there existed no vocal irritation from the rather lovely edges of Obama’s party… liberal intelligent creative artistic drug fringes which created fucking cultural greats. Obama would leave them all to rot. He doesn’t give a shit. People with hit lists don’t give a fucking shit about anyone. But the redeeming value of modern Democrats is its fringe wack edges which the remainder of Democrats shit on while these hobos use the shit shat upon them by their friends to grow brain gardens that get ever wackier.

  13. ” prisoners are going to be deported anyway.”

    What a bigot! I bet this guy goes around telling people how many Mexican friends he has

    1. I love how broken you are. And it was so ridiculously easy!
      You poor wittle guy

  14. We’re all felons already. Just ones that haven’t been caught yet.

    1. I was a felon in 3rd grade when I chased Joshua into the cloak room and he tripped because I pushed his fucking as and arm hit a hook on the wall and he bled like a stuck pig. I wasn’t intentionally wanting his shit to be hooked on crap that bled him out. I just thought he was a nasty dick. And I realize no one uses the term cloak room. I don’t think anyone in the history of America has ever used cloak room. So I think I just revealed that I am, in fact, a wizard.

  15. You are the center of a streaming brook of information. It washes over your brain stones and thought pebbles. Flickering under the light of lamps and backyard fires. The brook issues from sources many. These many sources narrow upstream into catchment, fall, water spout, news room, cable room, cable writers, web spaces, rags, and shit.

    I often look at information like a wall of graffiti and piss on it. I look at the stream of my piss turning into yellow diamonds under the glittering sun as I piss on that wall. That wall is the collective compilation of my narrow vision of life lived for that moment. And I pissed on it because i think humans are helpless fucks with muscles and brains that make us avoid being helpless but when information from beyond our own graffiti walls penetrate the grotto of our living cognition we are like cripples crawling on the ground in the light under the wall being plastered with signs and demands and targets and signals and torches all painted and sprayed by various arms and teams that specialize in the bending of collective minds and a few innocent purveyors of the odd sweet article of words.

  16. You are the center of a streaming brook of information. It washes over your brain stones and thought pebbles. Flickering under the light of lamps and backyard fires. The brook issues from sources many. These many sources narrow upstream into catchment, fall, water spout, news room, cable room, cable writers, web spaces, rags, and shit.

    I often look at information like a wall of graffiti and piss on it. I look at the stream of my piss turning into yellow diamonds under the glittering sun as I piss on that wall. That wall is the collective compilation of my narrow vision of life lived for that moment. And I pissed on it because i think humans are helpless fucks with muscles and brains that make us avoid being helpless but when information from beyond our own graffiti walls penetrate the grotto of our living cognition we are like cripples crawling on the ground in the light under the wall being plastered with signs and demands and targets and signals and torches all painted and sprayed by various arms and teams that specialize in the bending of collective minds and a few innocent purveyors of the odd sweet article of words.

    1. goddamn duplicates!

    2. PUMPED UP! I right now so wanna go out and tag something, But it’s cold outside, and I’d feel bad degrading somebody’s property. And I haven’t really worked out any sort of logo. So yeah.

      1. Leave it to Q to mark his concrete galaxy.

        1. I have achieved a level of FYTW recently. I am now a determined master forger. Unapologetic, unqualified, but determined as fuck. It’s easier that way.

          1. The alleys next to tracks trap lost humans and force them to glimpse the brain fountains of gravel walkers.
            I fucking hate Townes Van Zandt jokes. I understand that he is dead and this is a sad thing. But I still hate his jokes.

  17. Old rooms bleed tired voices. Modern rooms are scared. Old rooms are tired. Modern rooms are vibrant. Old rooms look down at the trim. Modern rooms look up at the high ceilings. Old rooms sleep under the creaks. Modern rooms don’t creak. Old rooms cast moonglow with stories. Modern rooms cast moonglow and scatter its light like sun and scare all the stories away.

  18. Unless prison turned them into real criminals, of course…

  19. If the edge of the earth had pyramids the people in deep worlds would find us. Since earth doesn’t have edges we will kill ourselves.

    1. But we have grain, no?

      1. Q is earth life.

  20. Is Paul Detrick a real person? I guess he doesn’t wear fucking blazers. I don’t know what a blazer is. But I used to be shitty geek nerd in 1989 and I would wear fucking long sleeved sweaters I think were called blazers and the marble wonder erected in the fucking 30’s by tons of super talented poor fuckers who could place masonry like no angels created a fucking hell hole for my lofty thought type. But I had more than a few muscles because I was poor and angry and worked out with that fucking Lebanon fuck Joe who was a walking human instrument of fucking striation and muscular definition because he hated the goddamn world and his horrible mom and dad. Jesus fucking christ, Joe was fucked up but sort of like hanging out with a human volcano. Boring mostly but when the stack went off rest assured shit would happen you fucking could NOT ever pay for. Bitch did shit that made my ass cringe like the time he got pissed at old lady Johnson’s daughter and he pulled his pants down in the junkyard and made Christina beat him with a stick. He only stopped his beating when his ass was bleeding down to his knees. I like Christina.

    1. I chase Christina through the house one day when i was eight with a coat hanger and she was older than me. She was I think 13 and I was 8 but a strong vibrant 8 and super 8? yeah, fuck me. shit just showed up in the lines. no plans on that crap. But we raced through the goddamn house and I remember wanting to beat her red haired angel ass with a coat hanger and she jumped behind a couch. the fucking couch was brown and boring. and Christina was behind the couch. And the sun became really bright and I took the hanger and swung it like a sword as her face came up and I accidentally struck her in the mouth with the hanger and it got caught in her throat.

      Alarm hurt my heart and my entire body screamed with fire and Christina fell down on the couch and coughed and started shaking and I was such a fucking young boy but I held her older body down against her will and took my thumb and pulled her jaw back and her throat started bleeding but I didn’t care. I like Christina. She fell limp from shock and I was scared. But I liked her and she sank into the couch and I looked down her throat and wound out the hanger from that deep dark place of her breathing. She bled from her mouth but she didn’t have metal stuck in her throat.

      When she woke up from shock she got up and drank water and we hugged and wrestled. I haven’t seen Christina since 1985.

      1. Old tunnels from past railroads with memory trains singing past our fucking nows. fucking makes the heart list and heave, man. I havent seen many young boys and girls ever from my past. Not once. They are all gone. I remember the strange walls of a house on Western Ave in Toledo and Karen’s home I would visit because I was forced to because mother and father were young and vested in Branham culture. But Karen was a mean horrible empty-faced bitch and i hated her. I would look into her and I was 5 but I saw nothing I liked. Her home was old, druppy, worn, and the lights were dim and Aaron her son would fall asleep in his bed and cry. He would cry softly and grab my hand. I would pull away at first and then gently give it to him and he would sleep. And the shadows on his walls would flash with cars passing by and I would look up at the ceiling.

  21. The pastor of the cult had an ape sculpture on his dresser and mom and dad would attend strange meetings in the late 70’s in the grey city and put us to sleep on the floor in a side room. I was the oldest and fell asleep latest while the others younger slept. I heard the voices on my back as I looked up and the lights of the cracked door always lit up the strange ape and his sculpture drained my brave. The ape was wooden. But swollen and angry and he looked always down on me. In anger. And as if he wanted to hurt me. The light made this. And my fear felt his glowering wooden fierceness.

  22. Muffled sounds erupt silent.
    Lost sounds creep gently.
    Strings glide softly.
    Energy falls like shadows.
    fingers plead for humble directions.

  23. I am sorry reason. I apologize for using you for my expression

  24. I will go now my brothers and odd sisters.-

  25. The iron edges of the train tracks clamored after the moon blessings.
    the quiet cold trees looked aside the withered deadness
    and wet streets glistening stretched lights.

  26. AC ACing, commie-kid and rooster begging for attention; ’bout right.

    1. Commie kid and rooster are the same person.

      1. Which one of you is AC?

        1. I’m barely literate. I can’t write paragraphs about space penises.

        2. None of us, and all of us. We’re nothing more than animated bits of organic matter scuttling across a particular clump of condensed stardust, existing for the sole purpose of feeding AC’s prose.

        1. Oh, look! He shows up and proves it! Way to go, dipshit.
          Still relying on honest people to pay your way? Don’t disappoint me now.

          1. I’d tell you the 57 ways I love Josef Stalin, but there are so many bigoted racist assholes on this website. You and I, I think, have bigger fish to fry.

        2. Yo amsoc, you need a doc, I think you have a tapeworm in your brain!

          1. not real.

            I mean amsoc. Tapeworm is very real.

      2. “Commie kid and rooster are the same person.”

        I was sorta leaning toward rooster = tulpa; same sort of sophistry whereas commie kid is just fucking pathetic.
        But we are missing Mike; he could show up and whine about being bullied. Always amusing until it gets sad.

        1. He’s not even trying with amsoc anymore.

        2. Rooster is Tulpa. No question there. Somebody pegged that after his first post yesterday. Err, maybe Friday, I can’t remember.

          1. BTW, I can’t get the internet here. Does anyone have the 9er’s score from this afternoon?

            1. That joke is over on my end. Cal keeps losing. We might not even be eligible for a bowl game at this rate.

              1. Not very good with opsec, are you.

  27. i feel good for reading this post.

  28. “Starbucks REMOVED CHRISTMAS from their cups because they hate Jesus,”

    Ugh I hate people.

    1. Ima need to buy some shitty Starbucks coffee. Just cuz.

    2. Any one who cares about this sucks. Anybody who cares that other people care about this also sucks.

      1. Agreed. You might just as well gripe about the tats on the baristas. Starbucks is trying to move flavored water as best they can.

  29. Holy cow man thats kinda scary dude.

    http://www.CompletePrivacy.tk

  30. Fuck, is Tulpa stupid.

    1. And racist.

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