Teen Boy Kissed Girl on a Dare. Now He Faces Assault Charges.
Pikesville Middle School 13-year-old charge with second-degree assault.


A Pikesville, Maryland, 13-year-old will be charged with second-degree assault for kissing a 14-year-old girl on a dare. The "assault" happened at Pikesville Middle School on Friday. Police were called to the scene.
According to WBFF:
School officials took a report regarding a 13-year-old boy who kissed a 14-year-old girl during school hours. The unwanted kiss was allegedly the result of a dare made by students.
Police confirm that the boy is now facing a second-degree assault charge as a juvenile. No one was injured during the incident, police say, and disciplinary actions related to suspension or expulsion will be handled by the school system.
No one was injured. Is that really surprising?
It's of course true that every 14-year-old has the right not to be kissed. I'm not saying the boy's transgression should go unpunished. What I'm saying is this: he should not be charged with assault. He's 13. Thirteen-year-olds do stupid stuff. They screw up. And when the consequences of their actions are as minor as this, it's better to reprimand them in a manner that does not involve the criminal justice system.
By all means, give this kid detention. Make him apologize to the girl. Tell his parents to teach him better manners.
But don't charge him with assault. That would be a far greater crime than a stolen kiss.
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Actually, they should punch the complainant in the face.
Nah, some juvenile mockery should do the job.
I don't think the 14 year old is the complainant
This is becoming commonplace in a lot of school systems. Proof that a lot of people in the education system are too damn ignorant to be entrusted with teaching ANYTHING to our kids.
Our boys are at the mercy of feminists and other misandrists.
In all likelihood, the girl was being bullied as 'ugly', and the boy dared to kiss her because he and his friends considered her 'gross'. So, she should be punched in the face by an adult in charge for making a complaint? School staff should punch kids in the face? Really? You are an absolute IDIOT.
America: Build a fence around it so the stupid doesn't leak out!
That may be how YOU see it, I see it as we get to keep it all to ourselves!
like!
Funny
But now we're drowning in it!
As long as Mexico pays for the wall? Sure, why not. *sigh*
That'll teach those kids for being kids!
OT-
Just read your post from the Tony thread. I was not aware that he was that kind of nasty to you. So, yes, you have good reason to shut the courthouse doors to him.
HM is a liar, probably some kind of serious head case irl. He goes on about how I somehow was racist toward his wife, a person I never knew existed, and never mentioned. He's really kind of creepily nuts.
It was the kid's own fault. Had he kissed another boy, the school would celebrating diverthity...
But this barbaric male didn't get affirmative consent before he committed that heinous sexual aggression! There's no doubt that he'll grow up and join one of the campus rape gangs!
/SJW
I'm sure the scholarship offers are already pouring in from UVA and Duke.
heinous sexual aggression ???
Most stupid comment, take your meds.
Pretty sure they were being sarcastic. XD
Take your anti depressants dickhead. Akira was being sarcastic.
Still having a problem recognizing sarcasm?
Maybe one of those folks whose never had a sarcasm.
sar?casm
?s?r?kaz?m
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
"his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"
synonyms: derision, mockery, ridicule, scorn, sneering, scoffing;
This just in, Millennial Women complain they can't find viable men to date!
They are surrounded by rapists, and you make light of their plight! Report to re-education camp by 10:00 tomorrow!
Yet your mom can't not find men to date. Though, I suppose that's more financial than anything else...
I would advise young men today to avoid women. Learn to be the master of your desire instead of its slave.
Pornhub is free!
I think it's hilarious that when it comes to sexual assaults, we're telling schools to deal with the rapes and cops to deal with the unwanted kisses.
Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that jail should be the punishment for rape and in school suspensions should be the punishment for kissing a girl inappropriately.
Stop making sense.
Didn't we determine yesterday that if there's at least a 20% chance he actually kissed her, then he should be expelled?
Ever note that these strange cultural pushes (rape "epidemic", drug panics, bullying, etc) always have completely inverse results from anything that makes sense?
You know, with all that common sense, you're are absolutely unemployable in the public school system.
This is how rape culture is perpetuated. Get that fucking kid before he rapes again. For the children.
Rape culture shmape culture. But for srsly, this dude is like a serial rapist CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!!11!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o42nb45d5YU
+1
You really show with your comment how stupid you are.
You're new around here, right? Almanian! was being sarcastic. Most of the commenters are. Rookie mistake, buddah.
Maybe JOE LANGLEY is being DOUBLE SARCASTIC!
*WHOOSH*
Damn, that's two blatantly obvious sarcastic comments (so far) you clearly misunderstood. Then you call THEM stupid, when it's clearly YOU who can't keep up with the rest of the class.
Omg! You are really showing how much more of a dickhead you are, when sarcasm was "splained" to you earlier.
Dammit, where's the "Like" button?
you're new around here, huh? we don't "like" things, we add 1 of some object/concept/person related somehow to the comment we like.
+1 button-Reason-will-never-add-like-the-edit-button
/school'd
Elliot kissed that girl in E.T. and that was one of the best scenes in that film. I still laugh thinking about it.
WTF is wrong with everyone in this story?
Seriously? Who called the police? What cop/DA decided this was a good idea to charge a kid? What parent presses these charges? What 14 yo girl is so upset by this that she has the police contacted in the first place?
i repeat...WTF?
"Elliot kissed that girl in E.T. and that was one of the best scenes in that film. "
And if we had just arrested him at that point, ET would have never gotten away. /FBI Agent
"E.T. rape home."
Well if they built a wall then E.T. wouldn't be here in the first place
5 year minimum!
need a dome, not a wall, got to keep us safe from above!!!!!!
Squints kiss-raped Wendy Peffercorn in The Sandlot, and there wasn't even a trigger warning. We need more FCC oversight of rape depictions in "family" movies. That movie should have been NC-17 at best.
Who called the police?
Some "zero-tolerance" school bureacrat or teacher. E.g., an asshole with no common sense.
What cop/DA decided this was a good idea to charge a kid?
Same as above: an asshole with no common sense. Or a sociopath, neither would be surprising.
What parent presses these charges?
A pussy who expects the state to solve all their problems for them. In the old days the girl's father would just go have a man to man talk with the boy's father and let it be known that the boy is not to mess with the girl, or else...
What 14 yo girl is so upset by this that she has the police contacted in the first place?
Given the kind of parents involved (see above) probably a complete mental midget who's been raised to appeal to authority to solve all her problems for her. IOW, a pussy.
"What 14 yo girl is so upset by this that she has the police contacted in the first place?backed by asinine "
I suspect that the girl did nothing more than report the incident to a teacher, if even that. The teacher and principal, armed with the mental acuity that an Education degree confers, and backed by asinine "zero-tolerance" policies, reported it to the police who (hopefully) also recognized it as a bullshit complaint, but could not just ignore it.
I suspect it got to a teach through the grapevine: "The unwanted kiss was allegedly the result of a dare made by students."
Dare is done, kids disperse and tell everyone they know who wasn't there, teacher overhears, retardshitstorm ensues, kid's life is ruined.
FOR THA CHILLENS!!111oneoneone
The girl Elliot kissed in the movie was Erika Elaniac. She went on to be a Playboy Playmate.
Guess that kiss really ruined her life.
ET kissing her is yet another example of illegal aliens committing crimes. Thanks, Obama!
Yeah no kidding! Obama is probably from the same planet! Let's see the damn birth certificate!
That's undocumented extra-terrestrial. ET's are people too, you know.
You don't think you'd be upset if someone grabbed you and forcibly stuck his tongue into your mouth against your will?
If someone grabbed your 8th grade daughter by the shirt and forced his tongue into her mouth against her will, you'd be content with "detention and an apology" as the author suggests?
If someone grabbed my daughter and forcibly french kissed her, knowing my baby girl, that kid would get his toungue bitten off. See, I taught my kids to stand up for themselves, and my girl would Not.Put.Up.With.That.
I'm not saying the boy's transgression should go unpunished. What I'm saying is this: he should not be charged with assault. He's 13. Thirteen-year-olds do stupid stuff. They screw up.
Um okay. But what if a 30 year old man kisses a 22 year old woman without permission? Is that assault? I remember a time when you could get your face slapped and that would be the end of it. I don't understand why that isn't the appropriate response anymore.
You've been slapped a bunch of times, haven't you.
A real Charlie Murphy, that one.
"DARKNESS!!!" - Rick James to Charlie Murphy
"Fuck yo couch"
From what I understand, any deliberate contact without permission can technically be assault and/or battery under most states' laws.
That doesn't mean you aren't a terrible person if you press charges for stupid crap like this.
Of course, a face slap is assault, too
It's actually two assaults; one for the kiss and one for the slap. It would make any cops day.
Are you seriously suggesting that we treat 13 and 14 year old children the same as 30 year old men and/or 22 year old women? How can you be that stupid? I mean seriously, how can you? It is my sincere hope that, in the near future, you do something so profoundly stupid that it takes you out of the gene pool. Permanently.
No, he's suggesting that calling the response out of proportion *because* the kid is 13 is wrong - it's out of proportion, period.
Liberal response:
There you go, like a typical American, resorting to violence just because it works.
"No one was injured."
Heck, by the time our society gets done telling her what an oppressed victim she is she'll need psychological care for life.
What the hell do you know? YOUR CEREAL CUTS THE ROOF OF PEOPLE'S MOUTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A woman usually pushes you away if she doesn't want it. If she slapped me I would slap back. I don't care what race you are or what gender you are if you use violence against me expect it in retaliation.
Bring the pain baby
But yeah this is stupid as hell. Whoever charged this boy is definitely a liberal
You make it sound like they were on a date and he was rebuffed for taking a chance.
What if a 30 year old man--on a dare--grabbed a 22 year old woman by the shirt and forcibly stuck his tongue into her mouth against her will, while his friends looked on and cheered?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
Yes, it is assault for an adult man to kiss an adult woman when she doesn't want him to. And I think it certainly merits misdemeanor assault charges, should she care to press them.
As to slapping vs. law enforcement ... consider this. If the 30-year-old man makes a habit of kissing 22-year-old women, he's going to kiss a few who will slap him .... hard. And then there will be others who might slap him to no effect, or who might withdraw from him. So ... the lesson becomes that he should not kiss women who are physically strong enough to repulse him. The weaker ones are fair game ...
I think under the public accommodation laws the boy is in the right to get a free kiss whenever he wants it.
Only if she willingly kisses other boys. By doing that she has established that she is willing to provide for the public, so if she doesn't want to kiss other boys that's discrimination.
And if the percentage of gay boys she kisses does not match the percentage of gay kids in the total population, throw her in a cage.
She's wheelchair accessible and screen-reader compliant, yeah? Full section 508?
It's a slippery slope from there to The Rainbow Cadenza.
Disagree. This is assault, although obviously in most cases it won't be reported if it was actually innocent kids fooling around. But just because there are no physical injuries doesn't mean there are no victims.
"in most cases it won't be reported if it was actually innocent kids fooling around"
So you're pretending that it *wasn't* innocent kids fooling around simply because it was reported?
I guess parents who let their kids play outside are also similarly guilty of neglect *if someone calls CPS on them*?
why... the very fact of *being charged* means it MUST be serious....therefore the charge must be justified!!
What's that called again? Flogging the inquiry? panhandling the interrogative?
Trollo lolo lo lolo lo lolo loooooooooo
And your point?
See that there is what they call a strawman because no one is arguing that what the kid did was is ok.
Further, you might want to brush up on your legal definitions...
http://legal-dictionary.thefre.....om/assault
So the act was overt however there was no reasonable expectation or intent to cause harm (a kiss while potentially unpleasant is not harmful). While there might be some specific alteration from the general common law definition of assault in that jurisdiction that technically makes the act qualify as assault the act does not meet the general definition.
More importantly however the actual point of the article went completely over your head. Soave was not arguing whether the act meets the technical definition of assault he is arguing that whether or not it does using law enforcement to resolve the issue is inappropriate
The idea that every infraction no matter how minor must be resolved in a court of law with criminal charges is a problem. The criminal justice system can't even handle actual rape cases effectively and you want to bring them in on a stupid kids prank?
+1
And yours is the comment of a complete dipshit.
Heck, by the time our society gets done telling her what an oppressed victim she is she'll need psychological care for life. She'll be a scarred victim alright, but the injuries causing those scars won't come from this kissing bandit.
No,the injuries will come from man hating lesbian feminazis.
Brian Sissyboy. Stay away from little boys,Brian.
In other news, Georgie Porgie has been indicted on 50 counts of aggravated felonious sexual assault.
He is still at large. If approached by group of males, he will flee the scene.
I'm so glad my childhood was three decades ago and not today--I'd be put on the sexual predators list for luring the kindergarten class hottie into the playground tractor tires to smooch.
yeah i remember playing "doctor" with girls in elementary school. that was only two decades ago, but im pretty sure that would get me in trouble today
Did you examine the Pap smears with a microscope? Maybe not then.
Especially if you're older than your twenties or early thirties now.
Are you sure you're past the statutes of limitations?
You might get cosbied.
"Everything is illegal,..."
No,that's not quite right. "Everything not mandatory is illegal."
Only 2nd degree assault and not Sexual Assault and a lifetime on the Sex Offenders Registry? Sounds like he got off light. /sarc
Maybe it was a double dog dare? No red-blooded American boy could ever walk away from that and ever show his face in the hallway again.
This.
Double Dog Dares are unrefuseable.
Thirteen-year-olds do stupid stuff. They screw up.
And now he's in the system so the the next time he screws up he'll know the drill and the data entry clerk down at police headquarters can skip a few steps.
It's good to get violent offenders in the system, even before they commit their first violent act.
Hey, hows he going to learn to become a violent offender without first serving a stint in Juvie?
I don't think we need to be that draconian, at least not yet. Just get him fitted for an ankle monitor and get his name on the sex offender registry for life, and there might still be time to save this one..
Bleeding-heart, soft-on-pre-crime liberal!
Precrime!
I mean, was there tongue?
Yes: http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
This puts a little different spin on it. I'm still hesitant to involving the cops, but it merits a couple days of suspension, I think.
We're all just potential points on a DA's scoreboard. Kid might as well learn that now.
"What I'm saying is this: he should not be charged with assault."
I'm finding that the word "should" has lost most of its real world meaning. What people should do is an increasingly irrelevant concept compared to what they're actually going to do.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
They are bat shit crazy.
What in the hell is going on in this country? Assault when trying to kiss a girl?
People are going totally insane, lock them up in asylums.
First we commandeer the state of California, then we start building...
He shoulda tried to kiss another boy and he would be heralded and if the other boy objected he would be off to sensitivity training!
Good way of putting it.
Has a guy ever grabbed you and forced his tongue into your mouth against your will? Would you call this a "stolen kiss" and let the guy off lightly?
Just "a guy" or a "thirteen year old kid"?
So, "How about some Honesty" hmm?
No one is saying that the kid doesn't need a good talking to and probably some detention and absolutely needs to be forced to apologize to the girl.
What people are saying is that charging him with criminal 2nd degree assault is fucking outrageous.
We have a horrific rape culture in the United States where one in every two females is a a victim of rape some time in her life and males think women are nothing more than sex objects with whom they can do any thing they please any time they please. We must end white male privilege.
It is clear for anyone to see, this punk is a sexual predator. Sex offenders must be nipped in the bud. Soon this teenager will be raping his sister and taking advantage of and abusing women whenever he can. You can expect him to molest his children. We should have zero tolerance for sexual assault. How would you like it if you were the victim of a sexual assault. He should be sent to special school equipped to handle sexual deviants.
"special school equipped to handle sexual deviants"
Congress?
Troll level: 10.
If it's sarcasm, he'll fit right in here!
I really hope it's sarcasm.
Seems REALLY specifically crafted to touch on as many satirical points as possible.
Four in every three females are raped...I thought that was the correct stat.
You aced that science quiz too?!
Four in every three females are raped...I thought that was the correct stat.
Using the newly approved politically correct math,that is more inclusive,that stat is correct otherwise it would be discrimination against faulty data which is a sign of white male privilege.
In other news, scientists found a new missing link for their theory of evolution. It may look like an ape, but hey it sure looks smart!
Every time a female interacts with a male she is being horrifically gang raped. Any other perception is merely brainwashing by privileged white males, who are Christian.
OMG! This is just terrible. Someone is a complete asshole. Assault? I'd like to assault whoever stirred this nonsense up.
It's Baltimore...so what do you expect
Kiss a girl go to prison.
Kill a cop or non black go free.
Only in Baltimore.
As a life-long Democrat and Socialist, I insist that we show no mercy for this outrage. I believe - and I'm sure that most of you will agree with me on this - the death penalty is the only appropriate penalty for such a heinous crime. Sharpen up a good sword and chop off his head in the public square.
since you confess to being a Lefty and didn't declare /sarc, canwe assume you are serious?
It's satire. He gave himself away by asking for the death penalty. Lefties are against that.
Hey,socialist. Thanks so much for feminism,Obama and the nanny state. Dipshit. Oh yeah, socialist=tomato (long a),democrat=tomato (short a). No difference.
Fucking Al Gore.
No, thats not the fuck true. Stop condoning this bullshit. Every 14 year old should just get the fuck over themself along with the "adults" too. What is next, plastic bubles? Cones of Silence?
Just like leftwingnuts to harass a boy for kissing a girl. Now if the boy had kissed another boy, they would have pinned a blue star and him and sent him home with a commendation letter and a bouquet of pink daffodils.
Great minds...
Do you think right-wing bloggers all over the nation would be hailing the boy as a martyr and dismissing this as "boys will be boys" if he had forcibly stuck his tongue into another boy's mouth against his will? Do you think they'd accompany their articles with adorable pictures of children giving pecks on the cheek?
If he kissed a boy he's have been given a rainbow sticker on his forehead and a jar of vaseline!
YOU WIN BEST IN CLASS. (Not Sarc)
Baltimore doesn't have a crime problem so I can understand why they are tackling this heinous crime.
The kid should have kissed another boy. He'd have been given an award.
Exactly. It's the crown jewel shining example of how great America is
OK if the boy stealing a kiss is sexual assault and rape is sexual assault , are the libs diminishing the crime of rape or are they trying to elevate a stolen kiss to the level of rape? Since they are so great at the language of illusion, I'm thinking the term "rape" puts forth the idea of a man overpowering a woman and just the thought of that is unthinkable to feminists.
This boy is being raped by the criminal injustice system. When will they get put in manacles?
anything to make a woman a victim of one possessing white male privilege.
Just read that the Pikesville school is 64% African American but this story shows two whitey kids. I would agree with Reason that the safe way to go here is to use stock pbotos of wbite kids even tbough it may not be accurate. To do otherwise would be considered raaayciszt. You may ask what difference does it make.
Here's a bit of legal advice for the father of the accused. Just keep repeating:
"F*** you! We want a jury!"
there are no juries in juvenile courts
"F*** you! We want a jury!"
yeah a jury of men who all did it and all got away with it so they would believe that this boy should too... but what if you instead get a jury of men whose wife or daughter was the victim of such abuse and they had to watch the lifetime of suffering that goes on after the perp has long forgotten what he did much less who he did it to.... be careful what you ask for...
This in reference to the Pikesville, Md situation involve a kiss to an unwilling fellow student. The times have changed. We find that the complaining girl has been left out of the case as the perpetrator was in years past. Today the boy is at risk of having his character defamed & a criminal record where in the past it was the girl who was forced to drop out of school or leave the area ? often the state in order to continue school, yet her crime of complaining about anything from ripped clothes to actual rape left her with the scarlet letter that gave the new school district cause to label her a trouble maker if anything happened involving boy girl relations regardless how innocent, or obvious an assault against her. Do I agree that the young man should be tormented as young ladies were in yesteryear? No. Do I think the situation requires more attention than the perpetrators of yesteryear want the boy to experience? Oh Yeah! These men have yet to learn to respect & cherish women & girls therefore they have not taught their sons such social skills. Therein lies the problem. Let these men grasp the fact that they are the problem & correct the errors of their past & we will see a drastic improvement in how the school boys are treating the girls, as well as see the girls develop respect for the young men that has not been a part of society in many years; without society's need to go from one extreme to the other till a balance is formed.
Have you lost your mind or something?
You have to admit its going to be very hard to convince men and boys to cherish all the little Hillaries out and about.
had we not had so much abuse subjected to the females there would not be a place in society for big Hillaries much less little ones
This in reference to the Pikesville, Md situation involve a kiss to an unwilling fellow student.
IOW, an on-topic reply to the original post. Normally don't need to specify those, but ok.
What a freaking idiot. Femi nazi?
what is the matter with kids today? why can't they be like we were perfect in every way, what is the problem with kids today. -- bye bye birdie
I developed early, and when I started having those kinds of problems in grade school, an adult at home told me to, 'just start kicking them in the balls.' So that's what I did. The next time a horny preteen touched me inappropriately, I turned around and knee'd him in the groin. I had to drop kick a few people, but it wasn't too long before I started getting respect on the playground. Of course now you can't give a kid advice like that without people calling you a bad parent and labeling your kid a bully.
Pics or it didn't happen?
yeah i have the same history lol and no u cant tell children to defend themselves today less they be the ones who are charged, only this time for defending themselves... those of us who stood up for ourselves got away with it back then as no boy was going to admit that a girl was able to defend herself against his advances... the bullies would have shamed him into a corner like onto the one the girl would have been in had she not defended herself... I saw to many girls go through it, and since they had learned to act like ladies, they did not defend themselves. I was a wild little Indian half-breed so i defended myself and when possible my friends.
I was a wild little Indian half-breed
Did you scalp 'em only halfway?
Can you spell 'Jury Nullification?'
juvenile courts dont have juries
whoever decided the charges needed pressed needs to be put through a woodchipper.
Subpoena incoming now!
The Rape of the Lock
A Heroic Poem
by Alexander Pope 1717
Then cease, bright Nymph! to mourn the ravish'd Hair
Which adds new Glory to the shining Sphere!
Not all the Tresses that fair Head can boast
Shall draw such Envy as the Lock you lost.
For, after all the Murders of your Eye,
When, after Millions slain, your self shall die;
When those fair Suns shall sett, as sett they must,
And all those Tresses shall be laid in Dust;
This Lock, the Muse shall consecrate to Fame,
And mid'st the Stars inscribe Belinda's Name!
The action was the "result of a dare"... Could a case be made that the boy was bullied into this? Perhaps there were two victims?
True the children doing the DARING where at fault AS WELL AS not instead... they were the 'brains behind the crime' so to speak and the punishment should fit the crime therefore the bulling of these who sent the dare would have those children at greater guilt than the grunt who just did as he was told...
kissing is the gateway to fisting.
Best case scenario.
Make sure you get the kid on the sex offender list. That will keep us all safer. But seriously folks, the morons who called the police, the administrators as well as the cops that showed up and filed charges should all be fired for stupidity. You can't fix stupid, ever.
You can sterilize them so they don't reproduce though.
Not since Skinner, alas...
Is this a good time to promote my plan for mass euthanization of progressives?
You have got to be kidding me. Stupid worthless cops, go find some REAL criminals to harass!
http://www.Full-Anon.tk
And put themselves at risk of harm or interrupted donut time?! I don't think so.
'stole my thunder!
Idiot. The cops have no choice but to respond to crap like this.
That's anonabot. He sells stuff. You can click on his link if you want, it's safe. But he's not gonna read your replies.
"But don't charge him with assault. That would be a far greater crime than a stolen kiss"
Restitution. Make him give that stolen kiss back to her.
So...he kisses her again? Counterintuitive, but so crazy it just might work!
If the perpetrator kissed another boy or was Muslim, he would not have been charged with a crime.
Why do people always ave to sign up for a website in order to post a comment? I grow so tired of having to do this all the damn time after, what about 20 years of it? Such BS. Makes me not even want to post now because I lost my line of thought. Next, I will attempt to post on something else in a few days and it will not recognize my password, or some such thing. And likely, followed by a bunch of new mysterious spam in my email box, right?
No. Welcome to the Reason comentariat.
To be fair, taking the 30secs to put in my email and a password/confirmation and maybe check for a registration email after that, is what prevented me from signing up for grocery delivery for like 2years once i moved somewhere it was available.
Query: how did the authorities find out about this incident?
My question too. Was the 'crime' witnessed by an adult and then reported to the re-education witch hunt panel? Or, has the 14 year old girl been so damaged by her parents/school culture that she couldn't handle a (wanted/unwanted/) kiss herself?
My suspicion posted further up in the area noone will read on Saturday, is that an adult overheard one of the spectators/dare-ers as they spread the tale. Possibly 2nd, 3rd, or further-hand.
Hearsay is the same as a witness, right?
Butthurt liberal called the cops
You mean they're not making them get married? Girls lucky she's not in India. The town elders would have sentenced her to be gang raped by them for being kissed by the boy.
I'm not saying the boy's transgression should go unpunished.
OK, I'll say it then. "The boy's transgression should go unpunished."
+1
And in other news, it sucks being a kid these days..
This is a prime example of how messed up our society has become. As kids, we we all played "Truth, Dare, Double Dare" and we all did crazy things. Did that warrent charges being brought against us? Did you all turn out to be rapists & pedophiles because you played * spin the bottle*? No!! These KIDS were just being kids. I'm sure the girl told her parents and THEY are the ones who didn't approve, not her!! Now, this 13 yr old is going to forever have a mark against him because of a Kiss? Ridiculous!! Parents today need to stop worrying about their children growing up.And remember what it was like to be 13 & 14. Teach them values, morals and respect. Then they might be able to trust that their children can make good decisions. You all are so quick to judge, SHAME ON YOU! I pray nothing terrible ever happens in your family where people start judging you.
and in our day every thing like this was handled correctly right? all the little girls who were raped and complained about it were shamed out of school - usually out of their homes and communities so as to get the help to recover and if they did nothing the damaged pushed them into the promiscuous behaviors that caused more of the same treatment, and then on to wild sex drugs and rock in roll to try to forget what happened... NO I saw to many good girls go one way or the other vs defend themselves and knee the brats in the balls for mishandling them... you want the situation resolved out of court? Let her knee him in the balls vs be subjected to yet another kiss for the stolen one.... but in all fairness then let the boy go knee all the bullies that dared him to do it...
panhandling the interrogative?
Great album title. Including the question mark that I didn't really mean to copypasta.
Hmm copypasta with Alfredo sauce....
Vegas has odds that this was white on white or white on black. Black on white would have been celebrated for diversity at the next assembly in the auditorium with speeches from city council and highly remunerated diversity professors.
Since this crime was committed on a dare, aren't they missing an opportunity to charge several other students? shouldn't the investigation include the conspiracy to commit the crime? Maybe Lena Dunham could give us some guidance on how to proceed.
You beat me by three minutes. I have to learn to type faster.
There is much more than a simple assault involved here. The boys who dared this young rapist constitute a conspiracy to commit assault. They must all be tried and punished as adults. Furthermore, the parents who failed to implant in their sons the proper respect for girls..er...young women must also be punished. Clearly, the way that they raised their sons constitutes child abuse and after publicly shaming them, demanding that their friends shun them and that their employers fire them, they must be charged, tried, convicted and sent to supermax prisons where their filthy ideas can be quarantined to prevent the spread of their depravity.
But what about the children who witnessed the vile "kiss"? Can the psychological damage produced by such visual traumas be treated, or are these children doomed to become sexual predators? Who knows what effects this can have on their development? After all, as the neuron is bent, so grows the brain. The safe route is to quarantine these infected children as well and keep them from the healthy ones.
After suitable punishment is implemented for all of the criminals responsible for the violation of this young woman, all evidence of the crime, the criminals, the victim and the witnesses must be scrubbed from the public mind. The mere knowledge that such horrendous acts can take place is dangerous to the stability of the community.
Nice piece of sarcasm.
some real pieces of Artcasm in this thread.
Have to love the liberal/progressives for using the courts to enforce their stupid view of how children should act!
This is what prosecutorial discretion is all about. If the persecutor[sic] goes ahead with this, it is proof that he is corrupt.
[sic]
I dunno, you probably should have embedded a link to dictionarydotcom because someone without a sarcasmometer is going to misread it anyway.
Prosecute, Persecute
(dammit, i resisted the urge to flip the links around so the words pointed to each other instead)
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if he had also given her a dollar, it would've been sex trafficking of two minors...the girl and himself.
If this had been a boy that was kissed, he's be considered a hero and not an assailant. We live in strange times.
Whether or not it is assault depends on where on her body he kissed her and for how long.
Did the girl object to the kiss ? If so she gets to slap the boy . Thus preserving american culture. Any police officer who participated in booking a 13 year old boy for kissing a girl needs to be wood-chipped .
The 14 year old girl loved it. She went home and told mom and mom was jealous and went after the boy.
To be fair, she may have been worried her daughter was going to be charged like a former Ravens cheerleader. Perhaps this was a preemptive strike?
Are we talking about a school that supports Women's Rights & Hillary Clinton? YES
Then I wonder how Bill Clinton was allowed to throw his sexual perversions on so many other Women, the entire length of the Clinton's Marriage and good ole Hillary obviously allowed it to continue? So much for standing up for Women....more like Double Standards for Career Politicians and the Hell with Women's Rights. Before you know it Women will have balls and penises and breed unto themselves or at least the Clinton supporters will.......Hillary needs to stand with the School and demand the Boy have his nuts cut off! Or visit the Pope!
Hillary allowing Bill to dally about was/is compensation for Chelsea looking so much like Web Hubbell
Sexual perversions? He cheated on his wife and got caught. Lots of men do. I can criticize slick Willy for his taste in women and some of his policy ideas, but yeah, he is just a horn dog. It's not like he was rutting sheep.
Are you SURE about that?
Now if he had kissed a boy he would have been told how wonderful it is that he is gay and if the "victim" had complained he would have been given sensitivity training or branded as homophobic. Political correctness 101.
True that
Having been a middle school principal a few years, I can tell you that the school and the community have a lot more serious things to worry about. Give the kid a break. If the pretty girl is a good kid, she should feel flattered, and accept the goofy thirteen-year-old's apology.
Are you saying that when you were a middle school principal, if a boy in your school had grabbed a girl and forcibly stuck his tongue into her mouth against her will, you would have "given the goofy kid a break," and told the girl she should be flattered?
Bunch of wannabe hardliner politically incorrect lets-do-the-most-harmful-thing-first assholes.
Bunch of wannabe hardliner politically incorrect lets-do-the-most-harmful-thing-first assholes.
(sarcasm)We have to blame him. He is a male after all. Now if he were an 38 year old female school teacher having a relationship with one of her 8 year old male students then he could be excused. But since he was in possession of a penis at the time throw the book at him.(/sarcasm)
(sarcasm)We have to blame him. He is a male after all. Now if he were an 38 year old female school teacher having a relationship with one of her 8 year old male students then he could be excused. But since he was in possession of a penis at the time throw the book at him.(/sarcasm)
Whoa!!!! I see nothing but big problems here!! First of all this should be treated as an act of civil unrest! Society needs to leap forward and reaffirm who's in charge! How can we let a thirteen year old disrespect his elders and his place in society. For a kid to walk up and kiss an older woman on a dare is beyond the pale, this is a young man - kid, if you will - who doesn't know he is never to look a woman in the eye without her consent at every stage of the eye looking. SHE should be telling HIM what steps he can and cannot take in this blatantly heterosexual crime.
This messes with the universe and the natural order that exists in our land today! Furthermore, what is this idea of blaming this blatantly anti-woman act on a dare? How dare they dare!!! There is no place for either the darer or the daree in our culture today and they should both be lined up and shot immediately... If not sooner!!! Before this all spreads out of control and pretty soon you'll have boys kissing girls again and we've worked so hard to stop this kind of violent and aggressive behavior!
Whoa!!!! I see nothing but big problems here!! First of all this should be treated as an act of civil unrest! Society needs to leap forward and reaffirm who's in charge! How can we let a thirteen year old disrespect his elders and his place in society. For a kid to walk up and kiss an older woman on a dare is beyond the pale, this is a young man - kid, if you will - who doesn't know he is never to look a woman in the eye without her consent at every stage of the eye looking. SHE should be telling HIM what steps he can and cannot take in this blatantly heterosexual crime.
This messes with the universe and the natural order that exists in our land today! Furthermore, what is this idea of blaming this blatantly anti-woman act on a dare? How dare they dare!!! There is no place for either the darer or the daree in our culture today and they should both be lined up and shot immediately... If not sooner!!! Before this all spreads out of control and pretty soon you'll have boys kissing girls again and we've worked so hard to stop this kind of violent and aggressive behavior!
Pikesville Middle School your stupid is showing.
The picture is a tad misleading, don't you think? It wasn't two young kids sharing an innocent kiss on the cheek. It was a teenage boy grabbing a classmate by her shirt, pulling her towards him and pushing his tongue into her mouth, despite her not wanting him to.
that's a huge violation, not some cute gesture
"It was a teenage boy grabbing a classmate by her shirt, pulling her towards him and pushing his tongue into her mouth, despite her not wanting him to."
You know this how?
It's in the police report and the more balanced articles about the incident.
Really? I just read 9 unrelated articles about this and nothing alluded to any of that. Let's see your source.
Your news sources suck:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
That isn't a lot of detail. Just a few sentences. Nor is it proven. Also, as a major Baltimore newspaper, do we know if they are a bunch of progressive hacks or not?
But sure, it's 'balanced'.
Nursery rhymes for the new Amerika:
Georgie-Peorgie puddin' and pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry
When the police took him to jail
Georgie-Peorgie couldn't make bail
Nursery rhymes for the new Amerika:
Georgie-Peorgie puddin' and pie
Kissed the girls and made them cry
When the police took him to jail
Georgie-Peorgie couldn't make bail
If only the court system were equipped to punish people who abuse children, like the DA, cops, and teachers have here.
Working for the State means never having to say you're sorry.
I like this kid. she was older.
He shouldn't be arrested but he does need to be disciplined! I know it's unheard of, but there are still girls out there that do not want to be kissed until they find the "right one!" (I know, unheard of in these times of idiocy!!)
From what I heard, it was against her will - and if he is not disciplined, that can (and will) lead to aggression later on in his life. (well, he got away with it, why not try it again?)
You all are looking at it from an "innocent" side on the boy's part, but what about the girl who did not want to be kissed?
To be honest, if he had tried that with my daughter, she would knocked him flat on his butt! We've taught her she NEVER has to do anything she is not comfortable with!
I know there's two sides to every story, but folks if you're taking sides with the boy, please remember, that it is IMPORTANT to realize that he DOES need to be disciplined and he DOES need to take responsibility for his action. Plain and simple.
BTW - the link here shows that he grabbed the girl by the shirt, near her stomach and pulled her to him and kissed her. That is assault!
http://abc7ny.com/news/police-.....re/981247/
I wish people would stop using the word "kiss" here, as if it were some adorable attempt at affection. He grabbed her and forced his tongue into her mouth against her will, on a dare. I doubt that she feels she's been "kissed."
What happened to schools accepting responsibility for what goes on at school? This was a young kid being a young kid. Are there any parents around to get together and work this out? Really can we agree this is an overreach?
I guess the old response to an unwanted kiss, a slap across the boy's face and subsequent embarrassment of the boy and empowerment of the girl, is too much to ask in today's society where everyone gets their 15 minutes of victimhood.
Poor parenting is the number 1 reason for fucked up kids. So the little girl must have been friendly enough to the boy so that he felt fine over stepping his bounds. You morons want me to allow government workers to control my firearms and you'll let any loser asshole breed. Sorry but have you ever been talking to someone and suddenly realized how the fuck can they be so stupid? Welcome to the Department of Education and the voters of the U.S.
New around here, huh?
You got us there.
You have my word that those who are screaming the loudest about this are the very same people who condone every form of sexual perversion that mankind can dream up. No hypocrisy to see here folks. Nothing new happening here. Break it up folks and go home.
Y'all are assuming that this was some innocent kiss. The picture of 5-year olds in a norman rockwell-esque kiss on the cheek is a bit misleading. We also don't know if this was the boy's first offense. The Baltimore Sun has a more detailed description: "the 13-year-old boy grabbed her by her shirt, pulled her toward him and open-mouth kissed her with his tongue"
Doesn't sound so sweet and innocent, does it? And for the record, the police charged the kid. Not the parents, not the girl.
OK, so she should have kneed him in the nuts instead.
A kiss is just a kiss.
How is it the responsibility of a 14 year-old girl to stop a young man from forcibly grabbing and kissing her?
It shouldn't be, but in the real world, it is. Sorry if you don't like that.
You're right. Because of him, her day was probably ruined. So let's destroy the rest of his life, right?
I suspect that if a guy grabbed you and forcibly stuck his tongue into your mouth you wouldn't call it a "kiss."
I open-mouth kissed plenty of girls when I was 13. It's a good thing I didn't live in Baltimore
I'm guessing you didn't grab them and forcibly stick your tongue in their mouth.
P.S.-I'm not saying that the school and police handled this in the best way, but all the "boys will be boys" crap I'm reading here is pretty bad.
You can take "boys will be boys" in a couple of ways. One way is simply as an excuse not to bother punishing boys for their misbehaviour. In my opinion that is a problem.
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The other way to take it is to realize that boys are often thoughtless, irresponsible, and lacking in judgement, but are not, generally, malicious. The question is how to turn these idiots into responsible, upstanding men. Usually not by calling the cops for a first offence.
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I'm sure the comments are skewed in favour of "boys will be boys" because the point of the story is that the boy is being charged with assault. Part of it may also be that this story of the motivation:
"I like that girl."
"I dare you to tell her you like her."
"I dare you to kiss her."
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Is much more likely than this one:
"We should do something mean to that girl."
"I know, you should kiss her."
"I dare you to kiss her."
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Instead of telling the boys that an unwanted kiss can be extremely distressing to a girl (despite the good results they may see in the media) and is therefore not appropriate, they got police involvement.
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I do wonder what will happen to this girl, though. She is likely to be known as the girl who got a boy charged with assault for kissing her (regardless of the actual facts). What boy with even the slightest bit of control of his desires would risk going out with her?
He ruined her day. Government is about to destroy his life. It's the orogressive way.
The other way to take it is to realize that boys are often thoughtless, irresponsible, and lacking in judgement, but are not, generally, malicious. The question is how to turn these idiots into responsible, upstanding men. Usually not by calling the cops for a first offence.
I don't know the answer, but the author's suggested consequence of "detention and an apology" isn't going to teach the boy anything. Rather, it will teach him that grabbing a girl and forcibly sticking your tongue into her mouth merits no more consequence than dropping the F-bomb in front of a teacher. And I'd rather not think about what this would teach girls about the how little their consent (or lack) is worth.
I do wonder what will happen to this girl, though.
I'm concerned about what has already happened to this girl. I'm a grown man and I think I'd be pretty shaken up if someone managed to grab me and force their tongue into my mouth against my will. I can't imagine what that experience must be like for a young girl who might not have even had her first real kiss yet. Not to mention having her ordeal dismissed as "no big deal" and "boys will be boys" by bloggers all over the country.
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Culture (acceptable behavior) is an irrational thing. In today's world in the USA, a young teen boy's serendipitous kiss of a slightly older teen girl brings an assault charge from the police, yet that same boy could have waltzed into the girl's bathroom while the same girl was using the facility and he would have been applauded for his "courage".
"serendipitous"? He grabbed her and forced his tongue into her mouth. It doesn't seem irrational to me that this is considered unacceptable behavior.
Shoot him and be done with the little potential rapist. Poor little girl. Already being attacked by slimy males! She should have the right to at least inject the needle for the chemical castration. An example needs to be made of this twisted boy. How dare he kiss a girl!
I know, clearly he has been conditioned by the patriarchy into heteronormative behavioral patterns that amplify his male privilege to sustain zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz huh what was I saying?
The kid should go hide out in a sanctuary city so he can avoid jail time. Glad to see we have isolated a real predator here ... Jeez
Can you imagine what is going to happen to this poor girl? She's almost certainly going to be known as the girl who had a boy charged with assault for kissing her. I would give 50-50 odds that she won't kiss anyone again before college; what boy would run the risk?
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So, what should the punishment be? Well, I have a few ideas that cover different aspects of making him understand the seriousness of an unwanted kiss.
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1. Make him kiss all the boys (in the same way he kissed the girl) that dared him to do the deed in the first place. That will give everyone involved an idea of what an unwanted kiss means.
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2. Build a pillory and lock him in it during his free time at school until every girl in the class (through anonymous vote) agrees to let him out. Encourage them to keep him locked up until he can explain why what he did was wrong. This would show him how seriously girls take such an affront and probably force him to see the kiss from the girl's point of view.
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3. Make him let a dog lick peanut butter out of his mouth.
?or they could just like, give him detention or something?
Since everybody is doing the "when I was in school" thing, I'll join in. When I was in school, you'd get a detention for dropping the F-bomb in front of a teacher. Does grabbing a girl and forcing your tongue into her mouth against her will really merit no more consequence than that?
Also the girl probably went on Tumblr afterwards hysterically raving about how she was "almost raped" and is cheering the incarceration of the boy along with all of the rest of her SJW friends.
You can always tell in the comments section that Drudge has linked to the story on reason.
IT'S RAPE CULTURE!!!!!!!!!111111111
This is total insanity and the Principal should be arrested for child abuse.
When I was in grade school in the the early 1980s people started having sex at 12. Spin the bottle was 11. I'd be willing to bet it's more widespread and perhaps earlier now. 13 and 14 are freshmen in high school so they may be sexually active men and women . So don't assume thrre was no Mature sexual intent. But these things are illegal and can't be discussed publicly.
The war on boys intensifies.
I've seen bloggers (and commenters) all over the country rant about how this 8th grade girl should be flattered that a boy grabbed her and forcibly stuck his tongue into her mouth against her will. They're laughing about the odds of her ever being kissed again. They're hailing this boy as some kind of martyr because he got in serious trouble for grabbing a girl by the shirt and forcibly sticking his tongue into her mouth against her will. How is that a war on boys?
I have yet to see a single item on this that says he grabbed her and "forcibly" stuck his tongue into her mouth!
How about sticking to the "honestly" facts!
But...but...but... the lies I am telling help my side!
13 and 14 ? I would bet they both have seen porn on the internet.
Yeesh. If this overbearing system of justice was around when I was in first grade (and kissing random girls), I'd still be on the sex offender list.
"No one was injured"<<br /
Yeah, right!
So officials are taking steps to correct that oversight by laying the mother of all guilt trips on this youngster.
They will convince him in his underdeveloped mind that he is a virtual rapist, and doesn't deserve to live in a free society.
The kid will do one of three things:
1. Turn gay
2. Commit suicide
3. Become the sex offender the system will convince him he is.
The chances for a young lad to grow into a productive adult man in today's feminized society are slim to none!
I always thought that prostitution was largely illegal because of lingering religious influences...
But I realize now it is a key part of the progressive plan. As the new female generations are brought up to be little feminazis the males would turn away from them en masse to just purchase sex upfront.
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Rank dishonesty Reason; why not post a real pic of a pimply hormone-driven 13 yr old teen male. And show him grabbing the 14yr old girl by her shirt and forcing his tongue in her mouth.
Yeah, that's a real charming photo op & please show her perhaps getting herpes from this unwanted contact.
It's not funny& cute, it's sexual assault. I only wish she'd kneed him in the groin and kicked him there repeatedly for good measure. Girls are not random sexual objects. This needs to be stopped now.
"Stop it mom, you are sexually assaulting me!" "Stop it Andres! You are sexually assaulting me, I don't care that it is customary to greet with a kiss! It's KISS-RAPE!"
Wait, do you know Tony?
So Squints assaulted Wendy Peffercorn. I never knew.
Everyone, including the article's author, assumes the boy was dared to kiss a pretty girl he liked, and he 'stole a kiss' from a touchy little Venus; now he is being treated unreasonably by adults who are absurdly overreacting. You've forgotten that that is NOT what would be the typical junior high school scenario. What most likely happened is that the girl was being bullied and the boy's friends dared him to kiss her because she was 'so ugly'. Junior high school boys don't find it hilarious if someone kisses a pretty girl on a dare.--They find it hilarious if someone kisses a 'repulsive' girl on a dare. 98% of the time, in order for junior high school boys to find something concerning girls amusing, CRUELTY has to be part of the picture. So, that boy is probably not as sweetly innocent as everyone thinks. The dare, and kiss, were probably part of an act of vicious bullying.