Barack Obama

"Hi, I'm President Obama and I'm here in Alaska to help fix the climate."

Will government solutions to global warming be worse than global warming?

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President Barack Obama toured Alaska this week to highlight his concerns about man-made global warming. "Arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average," he declared in Anchorage. On that much, he's right. Satellite temperature measurements of the lower troposphere show that the global atmosphere has been warming at a rate of about +0.12 degrees Celsius per decade since 1980. The Arctic, meanwhile, has been warming at rate of about +0.32 degrees Celsius per decade.

When it came to how best to address those rising temperatures, the president was less persuasive.

Obama has pledged that the United States will reduce its greenhouse gas emissions 17 percent below 2005 levels by 2020, and 26 to 28 percent by 2025. In 2005, the U.S. emitted about 7,386 million metric tons of greenhouse gases. By 2013, that had dropped to 6,472 million metric tons, largely as a result of the economic contraction and of switching from coal to cheaper natural gas for electricity generation. Even as greenhouse gas emissions were falling, real U.S. gross domestic product rose from $14.4 trillion in 2005 to $16.3 trillion now, an increase of more than 13 percent.

In his Alaska speech, President Obama also argued: "Few things can have as negative an impact on our economy as climate change. On the other hand, technology has now advanced to the point where any economic disruption from transitioning to a cleaner, more efficient economy is shrinking by the day. Clean energy and energy efficiency aren't just proving cost-effective, but also cost-saving." But is switching to clean energy available now really cost-effective and cost-saving?

The cuts in greenhouse gas emissions that the president has promised are supposed to stem from various initiatives adopted by his administration. These policies include new higher corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards, tighter appliance energy efficiency standards, and the Clean Power Plan.

Since 2010, the Obama administration has raised CAFE standards for passenger vehicles from 27.5 to 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025. In 2011, the Environmental Protection Agency calculated that the new regulations would increase the average price of an automobile by $2,000 to $3,000 in 2025. The average vehicle burns 524 gallons per year now. Let's assume that the new fuel-efficient vehicles will use only half as much gasoline, about 262 gallons. At the current price of $2.48 per gallon, that would yield a fuel saving of around $650 per year. In other words, it would take four to five years for a driver to offset the costs of the new standards. The EPA estimates that new passenger car standards would result in annual carbon dioxide emissions reductions of 307 million metric tons by 2030.

What are the costs and benefits of Obama's new energy efficiency standards for home appliances? Sherzod Abdukadirov, a research fellow at the free-market Mercatus Center, recently noted that the Department of Energy estimated that purchasers of new dishwashers would pay an additional $44 and save $3 in energy costs over the 15-year lifetime of the appliance. For new clothes dryers, consumers would pay an extra $12 in order to save $14 over the dryer's lifetime and would hand over an extra $42 for a new small air conditioner that save consumers just $7 over 10 years. The total cumulative reductions in carbon dioxide emissions resulting from the new regulations for dishwashers, clothes dryers, and air conditioners amount to just over 40 million tons. Operating them for 15 years suggests that the annual reduction in carbon dioxide emissions amounts to 2.67 million tons annually, accounting for about 0.05 percent of the reduced emissions Obama promises for 2025.

Earlier this summer the EPA unveiled its new Clean Power Plan (CPP) regulations, which aim to cut U.S. electric power generation plants' carbon dioxide emissions in 2030 by 32 percent of the level they emitted in 2005. As I have earlier reported, the EPA's regulatory impact analysis of the new rule found that electric power generators emitted 2,433 million metric tons of carbon dioxide in 2005. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) reports that U.S. electric power plants emitted 2,043 metric tons of carbon dioxide in 2014. In other words, the U.S. power sector has already cut its carbon dioxide emissions by 390 million tons, about 16 percent below its 2005 emissions. This means that the agency aims to reduce power plant carbon dioxide emissions by an additional 390 million metric tons.

So how much will implementing the CPP cost? The EPA itself estimates that its new regulations will raise retail electricity prices by around 1 percent by 2030 and decrease employment by only 30,000 job-years. The agency also claims, however, that these costs will be outweighed by annual global climate benefits ($6.4 billion) and health benefits from cleaner air (between $13 and $34 billion). Most of the health benefits result from the fact that burning less carbon-dioxide-emitting coal for power production cuts the emissions of other pollutants, such as fine particulates and ozone. In any case, it bears noting that these offsets are based on highly questionable social cost of carbon and health benefit calculations.

More alarming economic outcomes are reported from a study commissioned by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. It says the CPP will suppress our average annual gross domestic product by $51 billion and lead to an average of 224,000 fewer jobs every year through 2030. The Chamber analysts also believe that the CPP will boost consumer electricity bills by nearly $17 billion more per year. Meanwhile, an EIA study estimated that the CPP would lead to electricity prices that are 3 to 7 percent higher on average from 2020 to 2025. Yet another study, this one commissioned by the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, found that a 10 percent increase in electricity prices would result in 1.2 million jobs lost in 2021.

The basic assumption in that study, derived from research done by the University of California, Santa Barbara, economist Olivier Deschênes, is that every 1 percent increase in the real price of electricity results in the loss of about 120,000 jobs. So if the moderate EIA estimates are correct, that suggests that implementing the CPP will reduce the number of jobs in the U.S. by between 360,000 and 840,000 from what they would otherwise have been.

So are the new energy efficiency regulations being imposed by the Obama administration really cost-effective and cost-saving? A 2014 study in the Journal of Environmental Economics and Management analyzed the effects of energy efficiency standards compared to pricing policies for reducing gasoline, electricity, and nationwide carbon emissions. By pricing policies, they essentially mean putting a tax on carbon dioxide emissions sufficient to equal the cuts mandated by the standards. They report that the "combination of energy efficiency and emissions standards is more than three times as costly as carbon pricing."

In other words, whatever benefits the administration's convoluted energy and emissions regulations may provide, they are costing American consumers and industry three times more than would a comparable carbon tax. Talk about negative impacts!

The key question always to consider is: Will government solutions to global warming be worse than global warming itself?

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    1. I posted a reply here just so my name would be near the top of the thread.

      I’m shallow like that.

      1. As shallow as a California reservoir.

    2. Obama, does not know his head from his ass!

      1. Perhaps that is because they are in the same location

        1. If that idiot Obama could run again, he would probably win in a landslide. This is because he would get the votes of all the racist black people, Latinos’ that refuse to learn English, government employee crooks, lazy teachers, personal injury asshole lawyers, greedy insurance companies, that love Obamacare being forced on everyone, gun grabbers, feminists, and LGBT people. Now, I’m not a big fan of Republicans either, and all their special interests supporters. Like greedy doctors and dentists. Drug company executives, hospital administrators, law and order nut jobs, religious cooks, and insurance companies.

  1. Yes. By a factor of at least 100.

    1. We must utterly destroy our economy right now in order to prevent the earth from being possibly up to 3 degrees warmer in 80 years!

      1. we’re off a to a good start in the first six years, no? I don’t believe there has ever been as large a part of the workforce NOT working as there is now.

          1. okay; the largest part in a generation. I don’t see how that makes it much better.

          2. You mean when women started working in jobs other than nurse or school teacher?

            1. You forgot about librarian. Hater.

              1. And secretary. How can you forget secretaries?

            2. “You lack the Will of the Warrior. You have the will of the housewife or, at best, the schoolmarm.”

  2. “Hey look! This glacier melts a little in the summer!”

  3. “EPA Administrators, tear this economy apart until you find my legacy! And bring me all deniers, I want them ALIVE!”

    1. It’s shall be done.
      *bows slightly and snaps boots*

    2. He has altered the deal. Pray he does not alter it further.

      1. This presidency is getting worse all the time.

      2. Good! Use your aggressive turbocharged engine, boy. Feel the carbon flow through you!

        1. I’ll never turn to the free markets. You’ve failed, logic. I’m a socialist like my father before me.

  4. “Hi, I’m President Obama and I’m here in Alaska to be a megalomaniac, as usual. Now take some fucking pictures you ghouls!”

    1. I would love to see what would happen if someone were to shoot him up with Sodium Pentathol right before a press conference. It would probably be something like that.

    2. “Hi, I’m President Obama, and I’m thrashing around to find something I can stick my name to that won’t turn into such a disaster that I’m remembered as worse than Jimmy Carter. HELP!”

      1. 50:1 odds against THAT being successful before the next Inauguration…

  5. Can we get a chart showing “carbon emissions reductions as a result of Fracking” versus “carbon emissions reductions as a result of really expensive bullshit legislation”?

    1. “Carbon emissions reductions as a result of the economy tanking and people not being able to afford plane tickets anymore”

      1. How about carbon emissions generated by flying 2 747s to Alaska and back so Obama could take a selfie?

        1. If Himself didn’t go there and take a selfie, how would the rest of us even know there was a problem?!? Huh, Drake? Huh?

        2. Since there was also a Bear in the photo, doesn’t that make it an “us-ie”?

          1. Depends. If you ask them, do they refer to it as a “we-we” picture?

        3. And 4 Ospreys

          1. There are a couple C17s also. They carry the vehicles in the motorcade and the advance team.

            1. AND a choppah or two for the recue crews necessary in such environs.

              1. “Get to the choppah!”

    2. Does anybody remember when the Carter Administration’s energy policy was to shift electricity generation from natural gas to coal?

      http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=7373

      Why did Carter do that? Because the scientific consensus was the the US was running out of petroleum and natural gas.

      1. Yes, yes. But he did save us from the dangers of newkyooler power.

  6. Speaking of morons

    I have been arguing for some time that the Republican Party establishment is now thoroughly controlled by the Koch brothers and their close circle of billionaire cronies. On the policy issues that matter the most to the Kochs — on climate change, taxation and the budget, education, labor and wages, regulatory policy in general — the positions of Republican leadership in Congress and all of the Republican presidential candidates are almost completely identical to the Koch libertarian ideology.

    That is a scary thing because of how radically far right the Koch agenda is: no minimum wage, no regulation to protect our environment, the repeal of healthcare for millions of Americans, and the flood of endless corporate money into our electoral system, just to name a few of their objectives.

    That’s a lot of melodramatic panic to cram into a few sentences.

    1. Check out the attempted hit piece on Mother Jones:
      http://www.motherjones.com/pol…..-influence

      It makes them look good. How much have Steyer and Soros contributed to the United Negro College Fund? To cancer research?

      1. Thanks, now I’m depressed.

      2. The Kochs are kind of a weird boogey-man for the left. Yeah, they want economic deregulation, but they are pretty socially liberal, as far as I can tell, and donate to lots of non-political charities and arts organizations.

        1. PBS (I love NOVA). Hospitals. Universities. Museums. Political spending is a fraction of what their donations go to, unlike Soros and Steyer.

          The Koch brothers are a lightning rod of projection.

        2. It’s not weird if you realize that TEAM BLUE’s “social liberalism” is a load of shit that they don’t really care about at all, except as a way to be what they perceive as the opposite of TEAM RED. Look at the things about the Kochs that they focus on, and what they ignore. It’s a crystal clear map of what they *actually* care about, and being liberal (in the classical sense) is absolutely nowhere among them.

          1. I’m sure that’s true of the politicians and most of the activists. But a lot of the people who they manage to convince to vote for them seem to actually believe it. Or at least believe that the Republicans are so set on imposing a theocracy or something that there is only one choice.
            But, yeah, I’m sure if you ask the Kochs support the arts, gay marriage, drug decriminalization, etc. for wrong and/or dishonest reasons.

          2. Wait, you mean the ones running around like pod people, pointing at everyone else, and decrying them as reactionaries are actually the reactionaries???

            The Hell you say.

        3. you’re obviously falling for their propoganda

    2. The good news is we now control the Republican Party! Say hello to our new President, Gary Johnson!!!

      1. Fuck you and Bear taking a selfie at McKinley/Denali. I climbed Everest, bitches.

        /Gary Johnson

        1. Do you know who else climbed Everest?

          1. Hillary?

            1. Sir Edmund Hillary, 5 years after Hillary Clinton was supposedly named after him?

          2. I am pretty sure that Hitler never climbed Everest.

    3. I love how TEAM BLUE’s version of pants-shitting is over shadowy supervillains that have sharks with frickin’ laser beams on their heads. They’re beyond parody because they parody themselves better than anyone else ever could. They are basically shitting their pants over the Dr. Evil in their heads.

      1. If your entire belief system is based on the idea that only TOP MEN marshaling hordes of followers doing their bidding can impact society, then you must believe that the guys frustrating your dreams must have TOP MEN of their own…

        1. The details of my life are quite inconsequential… very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum… it’s breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

          1. Shall we shag now or shag later?

            1. He’s a MAN, man! Yeah, baby! YEAH!

            2. This is a shag rug, right?

              1. Any rug can be a shag rug, if you get busy on it.

    4. I don’t like the sound of that repealing of healthcare one bit.

      1. Yes, the RethugliKKKans want to ban all health care. Doctors, hospitals, medicines, even folk remedies will be abolished!

        1. But wouldn’t the subsequent mass die-off be good for the planet?

    5. “David! They’re on to us!”

      “Quick! To the Koch Cave?!!”

      *runs to Kochmobile with a flourish of his money-colored cape*

    6. This doesn’t seem to have made much of an impact. Only 1 comment:

      William Adair
      Were it not for the Kock brothers, scaremongers like you could get no donations and would, therefore, have no job. You even make a pitch for support in the last paragraph. What an opportunist you are

      Sad, even for Lux.

    7. I have been arguing for some time that the Republican Party establishment is now thoroughly controlled by the Koch brothers and their close circle of billionaire cronies.

      You must be so embarrassed.

      1. I doubt that’s even possible. It takes self-reflection.

    8. the positions of Republican leadership in Congress and all of the Republican presidential candidates are almost completely identical to the Koch libertarian ideology

      Would that this were true.

    9. It’s straight out of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals:

      #13) Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

      It is no coincidence that every progressive attacks the Koch Brothers. They picked their target.

      BTW, one of the things that fascists, Nazis, communists, and socialists have always had in common is that they hate libertarianism (aka, classical liberalism) with a passion. That hatred is well documented in the writings of Marx, Lenin, Mussolini, and Goebbels. That tradition continues.

      1. Adam Smith is probably their public enemy number one.

  7. Also = That photo is faked!

    1. No way!

      *shocked face*

      No. WAY!

  8. “But is switching to clean energy available now really cost-effective and cost-saving?”

    Sure, if you happen to be the one getting subsidized.

    1. Turn off the White House AC and stop using a 747 to get around and I’ll listen.

  9. “Arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average,”

    You’re a hundred times more likely to be killed by lightning as to be killed by alligators while golfing!

    1. It’s probably more than double. Golfers getting hit by lightning in FL is pretty common. Then again FL is the Lightning strike capital of the world, and shark bite capital of the world, and alligator attack … Well, you get the point.

      1. So, basically, Florida is the Florida of the world.

        1. Florida is Florida’s Florida? Or is Tampa Florida’s Florida?

          1. It’s Floridas all the way down.

            1. I’m sick of these motherfuckin’ SNAKES in a state!

            2. Wait… would that imply that ProL’s house is the Florida of Tampa?

                1. So then… any room currently containing ProL is the Florida of ProL’s house. And Hit’n’Run, when ProL is here, is the Florida of the Internet.

                  Fuck.

            3. Tampa also has AceDroman. And Invasion Pale Ale.

        2. Don’t be silly, Florida is America’s dong.

          1. By the transitive property, that makes us the dong of the internet.

      2. You guys seem to have a lot of white dudes with dreadlocks too. If there’s any official record keeping on that, I’d like to know. I suspect that Florida is in the lead.

        1. You should hang out around the College of Charleston.

        2. My brother actually has dred-locks. He got arrested on the family trip in Jamaca trying to bring back some of the sticky-icky. He was shocked to get pulled at customs while wearing his bright yellow bob Marley shirt.

          1. Did you give him his smartest man in America medal?

            1. No, but I did have the attendant fold up his bed so I would have more room for the rest of the cruise.

              1. Sounds like, when you post as “Florida Man,” you’re actually stealing his identity.

              2. “The cruise must go on.”

          2. Don’t take this the wrong way, but your brother doesn’t sound like the brightest bulb on the tree.

            Not that I have much room to talk. I have a cousin doing 20 years in the state pen in Huntsville, TX after getting caught selling drugs for the 3rd time. But at least he’s just a cousin and not a sibling.

      3. Florida is America’s Australia.

    2. I thought we were talking Alaska http://www.alaska.org/photos/g…..1385595882

    3. The first rule of alligator golf is let them play through.

  10. Fill in the blank:

    The world largest consumer of fossil fuels is ________________.

      1. In his case, I think the Jews were the actual consumers.

        1. I thought the fossil fuels consumed the Jews?

          This is SO confusing…

      2. You know Johnny Hitler?!? Word is he hates books and juice.

        1. Your mom? Yeah, I’d hitler…..

          1. You’d give her a good goering, amirite?

      1. You know, no arms, nice rack…

    1. The United States Federal Government. I wish I could remember the CEO’s name. Maybe he could do something about it.

      1. Which is why DOD must buy $40 biofuel and put solar panels everywhere.

        Don’t give them any more ideas.

      2. Teh CEO – DAVID KOCHTOPUS!11!!!one!sdfknohFUCKME!1!!

    2. the US government?

      1. Hitler?

      2. You don’t really expect credit for that 25 minutes later, do you?

        1. Are you expecting me to read comments… in a timely manner? AT ALL?

          I get to it when i get to it and you’ll take it and like it.

          1. He didn’t even read the original question, he just randomly puts ‘Hitler?’ somewhere in every thread.

    3. China

  11. The way you people treat the Obama is horrible. All he has ever done for you is fix the economy that Bush broke, ended all the wars the Bush started, illegally I might add, war crimes much? and try to further a more peaceful racial coexistence and all he gets from you teabaggers is crap. Nobody ever insulted Bush or his family, we just disagreed but still respected him and his family. But you are nothing but a bunch of disrespectful teanderthals that hate the idea of an african american in the white house.

    1. Also…your mom dresses you funny.

      1. Nu-uh, she says I look good in her old dresses….

  12. Glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere are melting in September???????? Oh! the Humantity!!!!

    Oh, and the Polar Bears!!!!

    1. They should thank Al for eradicating their natural predator, ManBearPig.

  13. Was listening to NPR the other day and the host was talking to some science and industry guy about capturing carbon from power plants. The guy was being all reasonable about how it was possible but cost prohibitive, and the host dutifully asks “Isn’t that cheaper than having all coastal cities underwater at the end of the century?” It’s a fucking religion.

    1. That does sound like NPR.

    2. But it’s the truth! There’s a scientific consensus that New York City will be completely underwater by the year 1990 1995 1999 2003 2010 2015 2017!! The facts don’t lie!

  14. Guess who else visited Alaska…

    A group of Chinese naval vessels transited U.S. territorial waters near Alaska this week, a Pentagon official said on Friday, in an unusual maneuver that underscores the potential for increased U.S.-Chinese friction at sea.

    A U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the Chinese naval movements, said the group of five Chinese vessels had passed within about 12 nautical miles of the Aleutian Islands following a joint Russian-Chinese military exercise.

    The ships did not violate international law, which allows countries to transit other nations’ seas under what is called “innocent passage,” the official said. He likened China’s movement through U.S. waters off Alaska to the activities of U.S. ships in the Strait of Hormuz, off the coast of Iran.

    Now, I’m not saying there’s any reason to panic, but I’d seriously consider panicking, if I were you.

    1. *checks earpiece*

      Now is the time to panic!!

      1. Remember when Obama was going to restore respect for the United States? I guess China is just racist or something.

        1. Russians too. There’s a Russian spy ship that’s been loitering outside of Kings Bay for quite a while.

          1. But Hillary reset things with them. She gave them a clever button to do it and all. How can this be?

            I so wish his idiot supporters could understand what a buffoon and easy mark Obama looks like to the rest of the world. Putin and the Mullahs and the Chinese must laugh their ass off when they think of him.

            1. But the Europeans like him! Isn’t that what counts?

              1. I’m pretty sure by now the Europeans can’t stand him, either.

                1. Maybe the people who actually have to deal with him. The general perception seems to still be pretty positive.

            2. Except the “Reset” button was labeled “Overcharge”, as in rip off in vernacular Russian. I shit you not.

    2. They were just filming an episode of “The Deadliest Chink”.

    3. What’s the matter, can’t the Chinese and Russians get in some Obama-Alaska-Selfies too?

  15. *looking for evidence of global warming*
    ‘Found it!’ *pointing to puddle of water at edge of glacier*
    ‘Science settled.’

    /Obama

  16. These things are not solutions to anything. And since AGW is not true, they are by definition worse than the effects of a phenomena that doesn’t exist.

    1. AGW is probably true. CAGW is dubious.

      1. “AGW is probably true. CAGW is dubious.”

        Agreed. We are seeing warming. It’s mild and the changes will be a combination of good and bad, but it’s slow and the results are unlikely to be catastrophic.

  17. the global atmosphere has been warming at a rate of about +0.12 degrees Celsius per decade since 1980.

    The forces affecting the global temperature average oscillate with periods ranging from 1 day up to tens of thousands of years (at least). We know about several important forces with periods in the tens of years (sunspot cycle, for example). I’m not concerned about what the trend has been over the last 35 years. The important thing here is that the “consensus” prediction of global temperature increase issued by the IPCC in each of its reports has been embarrassingly wrong. Look back at the first two reports. We’re so far below the predicted warming that we aren’t even in the error bars any more. One day we may be able to predict the climate with accuracy. Today is not that day.

    1. I seriously doubt that day will ever come. To do so would require a complete knowledge of the workings of the sun, the atmosphere and earth’s volcanic activity at a minimum. I can’t see us having any of those things soon or ever.

      1. Some things are just too complex to model.

        1. Look, if we can model the economy, we can model the climate.

          1. Exactly.

            1. I’m dating a model and they are VERY complex phenomenon.

        2. If we can model a wrench, we can model a ball

          1. Was that necessary?

  18. I will be impressed when Obama drinks some elephant dung juice.

    1. I’m pretty sure Steve-O and Pontius did that on Wildboyz once.

      1. Pontius for Potus! I am on board.

        Trigger warning: grown man in a tiny bathing suit.

        1. I’d totally take Pontius as president. Or Steve-O. Or Wee Man.

          1. I remember a couple of years ago someone here pointing out that in some pictures Obama kind of looked like Steve-O, and I pointed out that they’ve never been photographed together. My theory then and now is that Obama actually IS Steve-O in blackface and this whole thing has been a Jackass stunt that got out of hand.

            1. [head explodes]

              1. I think that’s pretty much the same reaction people had when I first proposed my President Steve-O theory a couple of years ago.

                1. “I think that’s pretty much the same reaction people had when I first proposed my President Steve-O theory a couple of years ago.”

                  So if he were to ditch the black face, could he run for President again?

          2. “Hello, I am Chris Pontius, and I am neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton.”

            *Vote*

  19. it’s pretty simple. taxes don’t retard economic activity unless the dems need them to

    1. +1 multiplier

    2. The dims economic reality is pretty damn retarded to begin with.

  20. Few things can have as negative an impact on our economy as climate change.

    This is true. If you lump all the government activities that destroy trillions of dollars in wealth per year into one heading of “government,” then “climate change” could possibly be in the top 5 of things that can have a negative impact on our economy.

    1. Short of some cosmic, pandemic, or geological event that they never seen to care about, all of the things that are more negative come from government.

  21. Obama also argued: “Few things can have as negative an impact on our economy as climate change.”

    And we’re going to do as many of those things as we possibly can before the end of my term.

    1. Maybe the warming in Alaska will make it easier to extract oil and gas and other natural resources, and allow more food to be grown elsewhere.

      BOOM – warmer weather, better economy!

      1. Could be. It’s pretty ridiculous to assume that warmer climate can only have negative consequences.

        1. You can grow pumpkins the size of a car in Alaska.

          1. And cabbages. I saw some crazy cabbages when I visited in the late summer. But your growing season is still only so long when it’s dark for half the year.

            1. 6 months off? It’s a socialist paradise!

    2. Obama also argued: “Few things can have as negative an impact on our economy as climate change.”

      And we’re going to do as many of those things as we possibly can before the end of my term.

      PRESIDENTIAL BUCKET LIST!

  22. You know who else tried to co-opt science for state purposes…

    1. Stalin

    2. Benjamin Franklin?

    3. Bill Nye the Science Guy

  23. OT. Are you people properly policing your masculinity? The women’s studies department at Vanderbilt wants to show you how. A few highlights

    “Healthy Masculinities Week” hopes to encourage men to “[e]xplore healthy masculinity through various lenses,” such as “American society, the gay and bisexual community, fraternities, and more.”

    Other events as part of “Healthy Masculinities Week” include “Maintaining ‘Bro’ Status: Fraternity men discuss masculinity and mental health,” “Masc 4 Masc: Policing masculinity in the gay and bi communities,” “Masculinity XXL? The portrayal of manhood in Magic Mike,” and a screening and discussion of the film, “The Mask You Live In.”

    The advertisement for “Healthy Masculinities Week,” which was emailed to members of the student body, includes a portrayal man with a thought bubble, thinking, “Don’t cry,” “Have sex,” “Major in business,” “Play sports,” and “Man up.” Allegedly, these are examples of unhealthy masculinity.

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/vand…..enwbb:HzzN

    So it seems the healthy masculinity involves avoiding sports as well as productive jobs and being gay or at least “flexible” in that area.

    1. Oh, thop it!

      1. And crying a lot. I forgot that part. Apparently, if you major in puppetry, avoid sports, cry a lot and engage in some occasional sodomy, you have lived a full life.

        1. Keep reaching for that rainbow!!!

    2. Jared: I’ll go find some hos to prioritize behind you.

      Erlich: Are you trying to say bros before hos?

      Jared: It’s sexist, but it’s about friendship.

    3. Right, because of course women get to define proper behavior and attitudes for men. Just like men get to do for women.

    4. I bet you anything if all of us men were to one day decide to all start acting like pussified beta male hipster douchenozzles, it would take exactly 5 minutes before womyn start bitching about there not being any “real men” anymore.

    5. What about cigar smoking? Surely that is acceptable.

    6. Do you women spend more than 10% of the family budget on shoes? Take more than an hour to get ready to go to the grocery store? Do you change your mind 8x a day or more? Do you want your husband to “take you”, but only when YOU tell him to? Do you talk to your husband during the entire football game? These are areas for discussion for our Healthy Feminity week.

    7. includes a portrayal man with a thought bubble, thinking, “Don’t cry,” “Have sex,” “Major in business,” “Play sports,” and “Man up.”

      What an inaccurate, stereotypical portrayal. Shouldn’t like 5 out of 6 of those be “Have sex”?

    8. includes a portrayal man with a thought bubble, thinking, “Don’t cry,” “Have sex,” “Major in business,” “Play sports,” and “Man up.”

      What an inaccurate, stereotypical portrayal. Shouldn’t like 5 out of 6 of those be “Have sex”?

      1. the squirrelz concur

  24. some guy over at Althouse has an intriguing idea.

    Blogger HoodlumDoodlum said…

    furious_a said…
    If Civil Servants have the luxury of choosing, while drawing a paycheck made possible by taxpayers, which laws they will or will not enforce, then citizens have the luxury of choosing which laws they will or will not obey. Seems only fair.

    It occurs to me we should start a movement to short income tax payments to the Fed Gov by $20 as a Lois Lerner charge. The Fed Gov isn’t interested in investigating and punishing wrongdoing by an agency and the Media doesn’t give a shit. Underpay your taxes by $20 (or adjust your figures to get an extra $20 back in a refund, if you’re getting $ back); maybe if receipts are x% lower in a given year people in Gov might pay attention.
    Most laws, federal laws in particular, rely on voluntary compliance–the nation is simply too large and too populous for the State to effectively police all interactions. If the State isn’t willing to enforce the rules on itself it is in a weak position to argue that citizens should feel bound by the rules, either.

    9/4/15, 1:28 PM

    I like that.

  25. Recording heard at voicemail of Alaskan State Agency– “This office will be closed at 1pm in recognition of the Presidential visit”.

  26. WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK IS THIS???

    So you get fined for employing illegals, but you can’t ask if people are citizens???

    1. After receiving pressure from the government, Nebraska Beef agreed to pay $200,000 in a civil penalty settlement and said they will establish an uncapped back pay fund for people who lost wages because they could not prove they are in the country legally.

      After receiving their back pay, the employees were immediately deported.

    2. Isn’t proof of citizenship required when you hire someone? I’m pretty sure I had to fill out a form and make a copy of my passport.

      1. I did too.

        This is all part of the plan to make everything illegal, and then cut a break to favored groups. It’s fucking ridiculous.

        1. Exactly. Make everyone a criminal and then selectively enforce that law. That is how Holder worked and apparently the way that bitch who replaced him does as well.

        2. It’s called ‘e-Verify’ and it’s required for many places (such as universities), and they never got the memo that nobody was enforcing the rules. My office is across the hall from our HR person and I’ve heard her ask for a passport or SSN card.

    3. IN fairness to Obama, he is working on that first part.

      The Obama administration has largely abandoned efforts to enforce the laws against hiring illegal workers, according to internal ICE statistics. In the first five months of this fiscal year, ICE conducted just 181 workplace audits and brought charges against just 27 employers. This is a small fraction of the worksite activity ICE completed in 2013, when more than 3,000 companies were audited and 179 employers were arrested. The number of employer fines collected by ICE also has dropped by more than half since 2013. The administration’s near discontinuation of worksite enforcement means that employers now face very little risk in hiring illegal workers and have little incentive to abide by the law.
      http://cis.org/ICE-Records-Rev…..t-Since-13

      Understand the law is still on the books, so Obama is still free to have ICE fuck with any company he doesn’t like. So they are suing people to ensure everyone is at risk of being in violation of the law and then selectively enforcing that law. That is called gangster government.

      1. No, John, that’s just called government.

        1. Yes but some are worse than others. This is not how things have always operated.

      2. Oh, snap!

        An elected official is choosing to not enforce the laws?

        1. They ought to be in jail for that!!

          1. That depends on whether it’s the right kind of law. And the right kind of elected official.

          2. Since jails are government buildings, why not just put ALL the officials in there and then let them out at the end of their terms if they’ve had good behavior?

    4. That’s like the federal forms companies have to fill out that say

      a) we promise we didn’t consider race when hiring
      b) we can verify that we have enough employees from all the approved categories

  27. This article is an insult to actual “reason”.

    Even after the last 34 years of climate action failure, the CO2 scientists have never said their own CO2 Armageddon was; “PROVEN”.
    Is this how you want your children and all of history to remember you?

    1. Back in the 70’s Robert Ehrlich said we’d run out of oil, freeze, and hundreds of millions would die of starvation.

      In an interview around 2012, he stated that AGW had vindicated his theories, “and things are even worse than we thought” even though nothing he said came true.

      1. Well, sure, he is vindicated: if government actually artificially creates an oil shortage in response to AGW, then we may well freeze and hundreds of millions may well die of starvation.

      1. I guess that’s what passes for an actual argument in some circles.

    2. I love it when the facebook people show up.

      1. When they show up, it’s great. When they stay….well…that’s the other thing.

    3. Derp de derp, der derpity derpty der.

    1. Police obtained a search warrant for the teen’s home and discovered an AK-47 Airlift rile in plain sight.

      It’s good to know that journalists who report on stuff like this are complete fucking idiots who don’t even know anything about fake guns, let alone real ones.

      What did Michael Crichton call it again?

      1. I guess that was spellcheck correcting airsoft to airlift? It’s embarrassing either way.

        1. Or the reporter is a flat out moron who couldn’t be bothered to even do a quick parse of their work before shoving it over to their mongoloid editor who clearly either didn’t read it or is equally as stupid?

          1. THAT’S WHAT I SAID YOU FUCKING MEXICAN

            1. “He’s not meltin’, he’s chillaxin’. If you can’t speak the language, go back to Mexico. Where you were born, and are from.”

          2. They were both too busy fapping over the prospect of a story about SCARY GUNZ and how the HEROES IN BLUE averted another Columbine. Or something like that.

        2. And “rile” is probably a typo. But the Independent is a proper newspaper, not some upstart running on a shoe string. Are copy editors not a thing anymore?

    2. Especially nice how his dad got fucked over for the guns.

      And what the fuck is an “unregistered weapon”?

      1. It’s something that they have in the non-free states.

  28. So, for at least 10-15 years we’ve been hearing people saying that soon it will be too late to do anything about climate change, we’re all doomed, etc.
    Can we please just declare that it’s already too late now and get on with our lives? Unfortunately, climate disaster is probably going to be one of those things that is always just 20 years away. Even though 20 years ago people were telling me that by now snow would be rare in the lower 48.

    1. 10-15 years? No, it’s at least 30.

      1. Sometimes I forget how old I am and what year it is. Seems like in the 80s people were still worried about some actual pollution like acid rain and the focus really shifted to all global warmin all the time in the 90s sometime. Or I just wasn’t paying attention.

        1. Ooh, remember ozone depletion?

          1. Turns out that the hole was always there, and will always be there. That didn’t stop them from claiming that the CFC ban fixed it.

            1. I thought it was at least one of the 50 simple things I did to save the earth.

          2. We did use too much hairspray in the 80’s

          3. “Oh-zone hole” always sounded rather dirty to me.

        2. It was all about the rainforest being cut down when I was a kid. Do kids these days still get fed a constant diet of rainforest doom?

          1. Nah, man, nobody gives a shit about the rainforests anymore.

            1. Shit man, they keep finding new mammals. We were told about all those mass extinctions and they just kept finding new species instead. There’s like sixteen new types of monkeys ?you need some sort of super-autism to keep track of that, and the vaccine people can barely keep up with demand! 😉

        3. I like how, growing up in the 80s, all the environmentalism shouted at me was about cleaning up litter and not dumping stuff in rivers ?and those things like acid rain or leaving space for animals to live. Those are actual things; conservation and not burning down forests is something that, at worst, ends up in Captain Planet cartoons.

          I don’t even KNOW what they expect the kids of today to do for an environmental service project; can a Cub Scout pack stand very still with a filter for a week or so and see if they can sequester carbon from the air behind their meeting place!?

  29. As in: “the fix is in” 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

  30. Sociology prof said constitution was the most racist document ever created. deroy derp derp

    1. Today should be the last day for drop/add, right? Drop. Add.

    2. Oh my. Even if you think the constitution is a racist document at all (and I suppose you could argue that the original text was somewhat racist in its accommodation of slavery), “the most racist ever” is just absurd on it’s face.

      1. The Protocols of the Elders of Philadelphia

  31. Pig Wrestlers Throw Animal Rights Activists Over Fence

    I think this sort of social-mixing is essential in a healthy society

    side note- the redneck looks like some genetic man/woman chinese/nord mix

    1. the redneck looks like some genetic man/woman chinese/nord mix

      A mongoloid “Pat”?

      1. You just won a stuffed animal and a bucket of cracklin

    2. Bobby Jill! Help me rassle this here womern!

  32. What I take away from this is that we have no fucking clue how people and the wider economy will respond to the proposed regulations. It doesn’t matter if it is a government agency or a free-market institute, they all suffer from the knowledge problem, made even worse by the fact that they are talking about things 10–15 years in the future. It’s such a pointless exercise.

  33. OT: I just made myself a turkey sandwich, with one slice of American cheese, and a double-dose of real, Hellman’s mayonnaise. I now eating said sandwich because I am a great American.

    1. Well done, citizen.

    2. Enjoy your 2 minute hate.

    3. AN I’LL PROUDLY STAND UP
      NEXT TO YOU
      AND SOMETHING SOMETHING FREE
      I WON’T FORGET THE MEN THAT DIED
      GOD BLESS THE USAAAAAAA

    4. No tomato?!? You fucking animal!

    5. Mayonnaise?? Go straight to hell.

    6. I like that fake Miracle Whip better

    7. Mayonnaise? That sounds frenchy french to me…

      1. It is good on french fries. They do it in Europe that way, you know?

          1. every time I get central American food it has lots of sour cream (which is very good too)

            1. I have salsa Lizano on my burrito as we speak.

              1. you’re gonna make me run down to the pupuseria for some tacos de lengua

              2. I hope that’s not one of the Chipolte burritos.

                I’ve heard you can gain up to 40 lbs. a week eating those.

                It’s on the internet.

        1. Horsey sauce or GTFO.

        2. communists have no choice but to put mayo on their french fries bacause they can’t afford catsup.

          Good. Old. American Tomato catsup.

          / ‘Merica

    8. Cue Budweisser’s “Real Men of Genius” jingle/ theme song.

    9. I assume I should be hearing this in Ron Swanson’s voice.

    10. American “cheese”? Monster.

      1. how’s this sound?

        handful of chipped ham, grilled in pan
        slice of american cheese
        slice of tomato
        good squirt of yellow mustard

        1. Worst Haiku ever!

    11. Is it tomato mayonaise of that furien kind made with rotten fish ?

  34. ” At the current price of $2.48 per gallon, that would yield a fuel saving of around $650 per year. In other words, it would take four to five years for a driver to offset the costs of the new standards”

    And what if we assume last year’s gas prices and the same rate of inflation as the last ten years ?

    You aren’t debating in a high school auditorium, Ron,

    1. Or better, he acknowledges that the average age of vehicles on the road today is 11 years. That would mean at least 6 to 7 years of net cost savings while reducing emissions. But lets not let math get in the way.

    2. Fuel efficiency standards don’t work that way anyway. In order to meet these standards, manufacturers build cars that use a lot of composite materials, tricky electronic gadgets, and other features; these features increase repair costs and decrease the utility of vehicles (less cargo space, oddly shaped cargo space, lack of third-party accessories, etc.). So, there are costs besides just the purchase cost. And many customers know this too, which is why the fuel efficient cars are discounted and subsidized with premium prices on the less fuel efficient but otherwise preferable cars.

  35. Solution was invented 50 years ago, the molten salt thorium reactor.

  36. Please let him fall off a cliff while he’s there.

    1. I’d prefer “mauled by a Polar Bear” or “fall into crevice in glacier” just for the irony, but I’ll take fall off a cliff too.

      1. If he falls into a crevice, he’ll just be unfrozen a few millennia from now, and free to wreak havoc in the future.

          1. That’s how I learned to wheeze the juice, a skill which I have passed on to my kids.

      2. I’d prefer “mauled by a Polar Bear”

        … while trying to hug it and save it from global warming.

  37. I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this earlier, but I read China’s first incursion ever into U.S. territorial waters off Alaska–yesterday–as a direct jab at Obama being in Alaska.

    It’s about U.S. butting into the territorial waters dispute in the South China Sea, no doubt about that. But the Chinese are notoriously sensitive about losing face and saving face. They take great offense at highly symbolic slights–and they deal ’em out that way, too.

    Just a coincidence that the Chinese are making Obama look impotent by going into U.S. territorial water in Alaska–on the same day Obama shows his face and makes his environmental pitch?

    No way!

    The Chinese are thumbing their noses at Obama, and the media is just blatantly ignoring the provocation to try to save Obama from losing face. It’s effing ridiculous. Saying whatever else you want about Obama, he’s also the most embarrassing oaf of a President we’ve had on the world stage since I don’t know when.

    1. the most embarrassing oaf of a President we’ve had on the world stage since I don’t know when.

      Since 2007, that is what you were looking.

      1. *Looking for. I got some delicious mayonnaise on the keyboard, which caused me to make a mistake.

      2. This oafishness in an international dispute is different.

        This has got to be worse than Bush the Greater puking live on Japanese TV.

        This is that kind of oafishness. This is worse than Gerald Ford tripping over the stairs every time he comes off Air Force One.

        You gotta go back before that to get to this level of embarrassing.

        For goodness’ sake, they practically sent the whole fucking Chinese navy into U.S. territorial waters–just to make Obama look like an impotent jackass.

        And he’s still talking about the friggin’ glacier.

        LOL

        He doesn’t even know his fly is unzipped, and the media doesn’t want to report on it–just to save him the embarrassment.

        1. Obama is certainly the worst President in my lifetime.

        2. That’s OK, CNN won’t cover it

  38. This is the worst political cartoon I’ve ever seen and says so many things about Trump supporters.

    Who cares if Trump doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about, he’s politically incorrect! Huzzah!

    1. I like Jeb’s pink dunce cap

    2. Ben Garrison…

    3. Who cares if Trump doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about

      How is that different from any of the other candidates?

  39. “Few things can have as negative an impact on our economy as climate change.”

    Citation needed.

  40. But, what about acid rain? My favorite issue is acid rain, and it gets no press anymore.

    It’s RAIN! Made of ACID! ACID! RAIN!

    God, I hate all of you.

    1. The 80s called. They want their fear-mongering du jour back.

    2. I can understand the hatred, sadly that cabin in the woods to escape will soon become illegal. Anyway, google the name Ed Krug regarding “acid rain”. Learn about government propaganda, cronyism, academic dishonesty for job security, MSM complacency, and the growth of the EPA on a bed of lies.

  41. Please, Ronald. There isn’t a chance in hell of getting a carbon tax thanks to the GOP. Or did you forget their pledges to Norquist? Obama is doing what he can to reduce CO2 emissions. To answer your question, no, it won’t be worse than climate change.

    Let us know when your pals in the GOP even recognize the problem that is man-made climate change. Until then, stop complaining about those trying to do something about it.

    1. Re: Jackass Ass,

      Obama is doing what he can to reduce CO2 emissions.

      Well, not what he can. Flying around in a big superjet is not conducive to lessening his own emissions. It is rather what he thinks he can make others do. Not him.

      Let us know when your pals in the GOP even recognize the problem that is man-made climate change.

      Why is it a problem? Ah, don’t tell me: a pal of yours told you he has seen the water line at the local boat launch site grow a foot in the last 15 years, right?

    2. Jackand Ace|9.4.15 @ 5:34PM|#
      “…Until then, stop complaining about those trying to do something about it.”

      Don’t flatter yourself; whining and praying and doing penance isn’t ‘doing something’.

    3. Read this article Jackand Ace

      https://reason.com/archives/201…..ts-by-2100

      He’s not complaining, merely pointing out the futility of politicians attempts to solve a problem that we aren’t even sure is a real problem.

    4. There isn’t a chance in hell of getting a carbon tax thanks to the GOP

      Good! The GOP isn’t good for much of anything these days, but that really is a point in their favor.

      To answer your question, no, it won’t be worse than climate change.

      Sorry, that was a trick question, since government can’t actually do anything to address climate change.

      Obama is doing what he can to reduce CO2 emissions.

      Given his general lack of competence and skill, that means shit.

    5. There isn’t a chance in hell of getting a carbon tax thanks to the GOP

      Good! The GOP isn’t good for much of anything these days, but that really is a point in their favor.

      To answer your question, no, it won’t be worse than climate change.

      Sorry, that was a trick question, since government can’t actually do anything to address climate change.

      Obama is doing what he can to reduce CO2 emissions.

      Given his general lack of competence and skill, that means shit.

  42. We already knew that Obama was lousy at economics. Now we know why: he’s lousy at math!

  43. This thing of equating climate change to fighting armies is madness.

  44. So what exactly would a carbon tax accomplish anyway?

    1. Uh, more money in the gov’t budget to hand out to cronys.

      1. That, plus exemptions for favored corporations, and punishments for ones the administration doesn’t like.

  45. The goal is not to improve wrongs, weather real or imaginary, it’s to increase the size of government. When the New Yorker magazine states boldly in response to Orwellian rules and regulations pumped out by the City Council that they know the extra rules will not help, will cost consumers more than they can spare, and will even exacerbate the problem–but that’s okay, as long as government does something, ANYTHING. The government, the New Yorker declares, must make its position known, must make a statement, no matter what the consequences. This is what we’re up against in the Brave New World.

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  47. Has anyone noticed that, in spite of the doom and gloom predictions, neither Obama nor anyone else makes any claim whatsoever that their CO2 reducing schemes will produce any sort of desirable result whatsoever? Think about it. They make no claim that the level of CO2 will actually go down. They make no claim that climates will improve. But they assure us that we’d better invest trillions of dollars in their schemes “or there’s just no telling how bad it might get.”

    I know when I’m being played. Don’t you wish everyone did?

    1. It’s not about saving the planet. All these global carbon tax initiatives are just a cover to pilfer money into building escape rockets from what Progressives believe are a doomed planet ?being built at and to be launched from the rocket bases in Iran covered under the plan negotiated by Kerry. The launch will wreck havoc on the Earth, but it’ll just be the proles left behind, and the mullahs have been promised the effective keys to the nuclear kingdom to create war once the Top Men head off.

      (Note to self: start spreading a version of that I-just-made-this-up conspiracy theory online and see how much trouble I can get into)

  48. “Arctic temperatures are rising about twice as fast as the global average,”

    Good! That means that temperatures elsewhere rise less than the global average.

    This means climate change will produce what has always happened in Earth’s history when CO2 levels were higher: a milder, wetter climate across the globe, which sounds like a good thing to me.

  49. That area of the world is warming because of the Pacific currents, not global warming, which isn’t happening.Alaska is hardly under a cloud ofCO2

  50. All those claimed “reductions” in emissions are bogus,because the other countries of the world are going to keep INCREASING their emissions at rates far higher than what the US “reduces”.

    Further,and most importantly,there’s NO proof that their “reductions” will have ANY effect on “global warming”.

    Consider the words of the man Comrade Obama hired as his top adviser on science and technology, John P. Holdren:

    “A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to DE-DEVELOP the United States. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries.De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. This effort must be largely political.”

    “Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations,” wrote Obama’s future science adviser, along with Paul and Anne Ehrlich, “is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided to every human being.”

    THAT is what this is all about.

  51. Doesn’t black stuff on the glaciers melt them? Oh no, he’s doomed us all.

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  54. OT. Are you people properly policing your masculinity? The women’s studies department at Vanderbilt wants to show you how. A few highlights

    “Healthy Masculinities Week” hopes to encourage men to “[e]xplore healthy masculinity through various lenses,” such as “American society, the gay and bisexual community, fraternities, and more.”

    Other events as part of “Healthy Masculinities Week” include “Maintaining ‘Bro’ Status: Fraternity men discuss masculinity and mental health,” “Masc 4 Masc: Policing masculinity in the gay and bi communities,” “Masculinity XXL? The portrayal of manhood in Magic Mike,” and a screening and discussion of the film, “The Mask You Live In.”

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