Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton: More Gov't Spending Will Make College Cheaper, Somehow!

Calls for more state and federal spending on administrative services.

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A college bureaucrat in every pot!
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Today, Hillary Clinton is beginning the launch of her plan to allegedly make college more accessible to Americans without forcing them into huge loads of debt. Her plan has a price tag estimate of $350 billion over 10 years. Let's start with a basic description of her plan, released in advance to several news outlets. Here's The New York Times' description:

Under the plan, which was outlined by Clinton advisers on Sunday, about $175 billion in grants would go to states that guarantee that students would not have to take out loans to cover tuition at four-year public colleges and universities. In return for the money, states would have to end budget cuts to increase spending over time on higher education, while also working to slow the growth of tuition, though the plan does not require states to cap it.

Many states have reduced college spending sharply since the recession; one of Mrs. Clinton's Republican rivals in the presidential race, Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, signed a two-year budget last month that cuts spending for the University of Wisconsin system by $250 million. Tuition and fees for in-state residents at public colleges nationwide have increased by more than 40 percent since 2004 after adjusting for inflation.

Mrs. Clinton would pay for the plan by capping the value of itemized deductions that wealthy families can take on their tax returns. The tax and spending elements of her proposal would need support from Congress — a tall order, since it is now run by Republicans — while the plan's goals would depend on support from state governors and legislators, more and more of whom have been Republicans recently.

I trust everybody notices what's missing from this plan, because it's been missing from every Democratic plan to "fix" the increasing burden of college costs: a single acknowledgment of why college costs have escalated so rapidly, and that is the huge expansion of administrative, non-educational staff.

In fact, check out this analysis of her plan from the Washington Post:

To improve the nation's 60 percent college graduation rate, Clinton would offer grants to schools that invest in child care, emergency financial aid and other interventions to boost completion. Students entering college are older and have more family responsibilities than those a generation ago, yet many institutions have been slow to respond to their needs. Investing in on-campus support systems could help, as could Clinton's proposal to allow federal student aid to be used for online career training programs offering badges or certificates, rather than degrees.

Yes, that's even more money going to college administration and services, not to education. Note the emphasis on "completion" rather than education. We saw the same thing in President Barack Obama's free community college plan: incentives to push students through the system to get them their diplomas or certificates. It's not a complete free-for-all though: She wants to penalize colleges whose graduates can't repay their loans. (Who wants to bet that this guideline will result in tuitions increasing even further, not more cautious admissions and grading practices?)

The Wall Street Journal noted earlier in the month that there's growing evidence, from the New York Federal Reserve in the most recent study, that the government throwing more money at colleges is precisely why the costs are skyrocketing. Yet, Clinton proposes ramping it all up, inflating the bubble even further. She wants to target for-profit colleges for abusing federal funding, but appears oblivious to the idea that similar incentives manifest in similar results in public colleges. Take note of the recent audit showing that Syracuse University is chock full of administrators and managers who have only one or two people actually reporting to them. Take note that the University of California raised its tuition recently to allegedly improve its education, only to then turn around and increase the salaries of its top administrators.

This isn't a plan to make college cheaper or contain costs in any reasonable way. It's a plan for colleges to bite off an even larger chunk of taxpayer money in order to keep the balloon afloat. 

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  1. Will the average family of four save $2,500 a year on tuition?

    1. “What difference ? at this point, what difference does it make?”

      1. We need to hear that in the presidential debate. It would be a laugh!

    2. If you mean by that, that their tuition will necessarily skyrocket and there will be no classes teaching useful skills, then yes, that will probably happen.

    3. Who cares!? Free money, everyone! YAY!

      1. Oh yeah, bagger! Well what about our free healthcare! What about that! If that worked, this can work too!

    4. The average family of 4 will make too much money to qualify for assistance in sending their kids to college, but will pay so much in taxes sending other peoples kids to college, they will not have enough to pay the government inflated tuition for their own children. So basically same as it is now but with more borrowing fron China and higher administrator salaries.

      1. You’ve got this almost right. The family of four will not qualify for grants, so instead they will take out federally subsidized loans. That easy money will pay for tuition and continue the upward spiral of college tuition for the next set of people.

        1. Low interest or not, the cost is astronomical thanks to the govt.

        2. Illegals will get all the free money. The family of four will not only pay for their own college, but also the college of the illegals. Through higher taxes.

          1. Actually, the family of four’s college expenses will be subsidize by the single people who made a conscious decision not to have children they can’t afford.

            1. I have a family of four. Where’s my subsidy? I have one in college and another starting trade school soon. Nobody’s given me a dime.

              BTW, both of my children are adopted. We got no insurance or other monetary help with those very expensive international adoptions. And that was after years of infertility treatments that we paid for out of pocket. So don’t assume that because couples have children that they are freeloaders.

        3. no such thing as a failed policy

      2. Sounds like it’s based on Obamacare, because that’s exactly how Obamacare works. Now my once great healthcare plan is completely worthless and more expensive. I pay more, yet if I go to the doctor I have to pay everything out of pocket because of the 500% increase in my deductible. Also, I used to be able to get an appointment with a doctor the same or next day. Now it’s a 30-60 day wait for any appointment.

        Yeah, Obamacase works great for someone. I don’t personally know a single one of those people, but I hear they exist.

        1. + $2500.

        2. I don’t personally know a single one of those people, but I hear they exist.

          I know these people.

          They’re the poster children for continually poor decision making and gratuitously abusing NYC’s generous tenant laws, since they couldn’t afford to live in the lower west side any other way. This is the type who benefits.

        3. My coverage from Assurant cost me just under $3k per year in 2013. In 2014, the premium for ‘platinum’, which was inferior to my mediocre coverage for Assurant in every way, would cost $6.7k. This year it would have been $8k.

          I refuse to play. I have not had health coverage since the me of 2013. First time in my life. I hope every single progressive dies a horrible screaming death for everything they’ve done.

  2. It makes it cheaper the way single payer makes healthcare cheaper. It ain’t comin’ outta my pocket. It’s comin’ outta yours.

    1. This. Ask a pie in the sky liberal who can’t stop talking about the wonderful life in European countries, where healthcare is free for everyone (for some reason, none of them ever move there), what the income tax rate is in those countries, and watch them squirm.

      1. and watch them squirm

        Um…you might be disappointed when you get to this part.

        1. Squirm in ecstasy?

          1. CPA wants to watch Hillary Clinton squirm in ecstasy?

            1. ‘Writhe in agony’ sounds good to me.

      2. ever move there), what the income tax rate is in those countries, and watch them squirm.

        Don’t know too many progressives who would squirm at European tax rates. Did you mean “rejoice”?

        1. No, I meant squirm because they don’t want to talk about that part. In fact, I’ve never got one of them to engage in it. After a few miserable moments of squirming and an annoyed look, they change the subject.

      3. In a lot of these European countries wiith “free healthcare”, the taxes have remained high as a kite, while the “free healthcare” has morphed into a system where the state provides catastrophic healthcare and individuals are forced to buy expensive private policies to cover all that shit that used to be free, but no longer is. That’s because “free healthcare” proved just too expensive to keep.

        1. I’ve posted this before, but it bears repeating;

          Carl Giles was a cartoonist and an British institution; he drew cartoons for the Daily and Sunday Express from WWII until his death in 1994, and those cartoons were collected in annual books since 1946.

          Giles was a Leftwinger, which in Britain means Socialist or damn close to it. Yet by the mid 1950’s, he was drawing cartoons mocking the run-down facilities and bureaucratic attitude of the National Health Service. He was a Socialist, and he despised the National Health IN IT’S FIRST DECADE.

          The British, Canadians, and Australians are the people most like us on Earth. If they can’t make Socialist Healthcare work, we can’t either.

          1. We just need to get serious about putting down the progressives. Then everything can be fixed. Doing anything else is useless bullshit.

        2. government mandates can’t make something “free”. also, you get what you pay for

  3. The magic of good intentions.

    1. The only intention is to buy the votes of young people with $350 billion of taxpayer’s money. Nothing good about it.

      1. I don’t know. Sometimes I wonder if these politicians really believe that the legislation they craft with their godlike powers will have the intended result. When it doesn’t, it certainly isn’t their fault.

      2. I suspect that any system they come up with will rip the young people off just as hard as it is right now, if not harder.

      3. The only intention is to buy the votes of young people with $350 billion of taxpayer’s money.

        It’s okay. The young are the ones gonna pay for it. So at least it’ll be poetic justice.

  4. a single acknowledgment of why college costs have escalated so rapidly, and that is the huge expansion of administrative, non-educational staff.

    …and federal loan subsidies…

    1. Someone has to manage all that federal money!

      1. Hell, we’d get more social good if instead of tracking it obsessively we just airdopped dollar bills over major inner cities.

    2. No kidding. Administrative bloat is an effect, not a cause.

    3. They certainly do not acknowledge it with K through 12 public schools, why should they acknowledge it for college?

  5. a single acknowledgment of why college costs have escalated so rapidly, and that is the huge expansion of administrative, non-educational staff

    Liar! Rat bucking flea tagger! You hate the children! Racist!

  6. Is there any limits at all on spending by the federal government and the expansion of bureaucracy that the Democrats would recommend?

    1. I had something for this I swear…

    2. Well, they think the defense budget should be cut?as long as it isn’t anything in their district, and doesn’t effect their ability to butt in on every third world piss-up going if they want to.

  7. Another part of Hillary’s plan is increasing the size of AmeriCorps to 250,000 “servicepeople.”

    1. Are the Clintons still going on about AmeriCorps?

      1. Sure! They just don’t call them internships anymore.

        1. Do NOT ask the Clintons about their opinions on interns.

  8. Note the emphasis on “completion” rather than education.

    Look, do you want a measurable metric that completely misses the point or don’t you?

    1. What do you mean, misses the point? Last time I checked the credential was the point.

      Of course, the value of that credential is rapidly approaching that of a high school degree, so the only real problem I see with Hillary’s plan is that it doesn’t seem to cover everyone’s professional or graduate degree.

      1. In STEM, there’s already a free ride for that.

        1. Not for everyone.

      2. nicole, you make it sound like printing a bunch of certificates with nothing of substantial value behind them reduces the value of each certificate. I have it on good authority from many Serious people that that is not the case.

        1. Serious question, has the value of Krugman’s degree gone up, gone down, or stayed the same?

          1. He broke the glass on the frame once, so it was more valuable to the glazier.

            1. Nice reference!

              1. this is the kind of comment we need a “like” button for

          2. It goes down a tiny fraction every time he writes something or opens his yap.

        2. At least we can all agree that Hillary will appoint the right person to make sure we are reaching our target educational-inflation rates.

  9. The average high-school student can’t take my order at Mac Donalds and make change without making errors. The idea that a more of these people belong in college is terrifying.

    1. At this point, the value of a public education has to be approaching a negative value.

    2. Well is that student making $15/hour? What do you expect?!?

    3. when I worked there in high school, we totaled your order in our heads, including tax, while filling it and only rang up the total sale on the old cash registers, not each item..

    4. That has been one of the biggest shocks to me since I returned to the States. In Germany the wait staff do the transaction on pen and paper. You hand them your cash, they hand back correct change. As a customer you get really good about knowing how much cash to give to get usable coins back (I still have about half a pound of Euro pennies that I have no clue what I’m going to do with). Here in the States none of them can do addition or substraction. If I hand them 18.72 for a bill of 13.47 it’ll be 5 minutes before they come out with my change.

      They can’t calculate change unless it comes out on the register’s screen; and when it does come out you can bow their mind when you set it up to come out in a useful amount. I had a high school graduate look at me like I was doing witchcraft when my change at Wendy’s came out to exactly 75 cents.

      1. I love telling them what the change should be before they ring it up.

      2. Why the hell would you hand them $18.72 for a bill of $13.47?

        1. To get a $5 bill and a quarter back.

      3. I fyoure ever in New York City, go to the top of a tall skyscraper and fling all the pennies over the side. Odds are you will eviscerate at least one progressive. Thus reducing their ranks. This is what is called a ‘good deed’.

    5. Do some retail sales work before you rant on this subject. For one thing chain store corporations seem to inevitably buy complicated and counterintuitive Point Of Sale systems (that’s abbreviated POS, for cause). I know that for a long time McDonalds had bubble-keyboards (the step between actual keyboard and touch-screen) and every time I have used such it has been wonky. For another, if you work under florescent lights, in a high noise area, standing on a hard floor, by hour four you are likely to not be thinking at your best.

      I think the people that believe that raising the minimum wage of fast food drones to $15/hr will help in any way are insane. But I also think that the average fast food worker is one hell of a lot more efficient, accurate, and cheerful that I would be in their place.

      1. I did my stint at McDs back when we used paper and pen. You were the Big Guy if you took 200 orders during an 8-hour shift starting about 11 so you got to work both the lunch and dinner rush. That’s an order every 2 1/2 minutes for 8 hours.

      2. But I also think that the average fast food worker is one hell of a lot more efficient, accurate, and cheerful that I would be in their place.

        I haven’t seen a “cheerful” McDonalds or BK worker in more than 20 years.

        1. You’ll see cheerful McDonalds or BK workers when they put in ones like Tillie.

        2. You don’t live where I do. Most are now hispanic and are very courteous and nice.

      3. I also worked the oven a Godfather’s for nearly 2 years as a second job. Friday night was 5 pm until 2 am the next morning (after working an 8 hour shift at my real job).

        Fuck all the pimple-face teenagers who can’t figure change in their heads or keep their hands off their fucking cell phones while standing behind the counter.

        1. I was a delivery driver at Godfathers during college. Back when Herman Cain was running things.

  10. It’s alright. She’s just promising everything to everybody.

    Once she’s elected, she won’t do anything she promised.

    And she’ll do a ton of things that she promised never to do, too.

    And all those dollars spent on administrative services will need to be overseen by someone, and Chelsea isn’t really doing anything over at the Clinton Foundation anyway. Hillary’s gonna have her finger in this pie, that pie, so many pies! And if she’s elected, there’s no controlling legal authority.

    1. And then the proggies will once again wait and yearn for ‘the one’ who was to come, but never shows up.

      1. No, they still believe Obama was The One. And if not for those obstructionist Repubs, he would have succeeded in creating a Socialist Utopia. Racist bastards!

    2. Why isn’t this bitch in prison.

      Oh, right, Democrat.

      1. If we have a revolution and out down the progs, one of the fringe benefits is getting to execute people like her.

  11. Note the emphasis on “completion” rather than education.

    At least they’re being realistic. You can lead a horse to water…

    1. …And drown him in debt… but you can’t make him pay it back?

      1. “Quit beating a dead horse!”

        1. What difference, at this point, does it make?

      2. Exactly!

  12. Bernie Sanders was taking all of the good populist economic theories so Hillary had to come up with one of her own. Plus, what better way to increase her donation from banks than telling them we’ll pump up that education bubble a bit more?

  13. Oh, thank Zod. I was afraid that they had run out of ideas to debase the value of a college degree even further.

    1. Notice that everyone has zero incentive to actually pay more than the minimum on their loans now.

      I certainly see no point in doing so since it’s clear that eventually it’s going to collapse.

      1. Don’t worry, Fauxcahontas will have everyone else pay off the loans of the college-educated losers who never bothered to do the math on their degree and still can’t figure out why no one will hire them.

      2. Duh, the incentive is that jesse will murder-rape you if you have yours forgiven.

        1. STEVE SMITH WAS PROMISED RAPE JOB!!!

  14. Mrs. Clinton would pay for the plan by capping the value of itemized deductions that wealthy families can take on their tax returns.

    iow, a net loss for the schools after the reduced alumni donations.

    1. Yep. Kill donations and the schools will have no choice but to raise tuition, and may even have to cut the number of students.

      1. Progressives hate charity. It make their bullshit unnecessary. High is what gay marriage is all about. Taking away tax exempt status from religious organizations. Which will curtail their philanthropic activities. Like the left really give a shit about some fags anyway. They would exterminate them all tomorrow and re-enslave blacks if it meant a total communist takeover.

  15. To improve the nation’s 60 percent college graduation rate, Clinton would offer grants to schools that invest in child care, emergency financial aid and other interventions to boost completion.

    Note the code word.

    1. Well, not everyone can invest in cattle futures as skillfully as she can.

  16. So the Democratic primary is basically a race to see who can plunder the most money and transfer it to Democratic voting blocs.

    Can someone, anyone, on Team Stupid maybe point this out? Even better if they can point out how their voting blocs having entirely opposite interests that result in mutually exclusive demands. It’s true 21st century doublethink for Bernie to propose free college while fixing to rob young people of wealth to give to the aged. Same for Hillary with immigrants and labor unions.

    1. Can someone, anyone, on Team Stupid maybe point this out

      That would be racist.

    2. Actually, at least Rubio had the balls to refer to all the fine candidates the Republicans had. The Democrats didn’t have any.

      1. Besides the Trump Circus that everyone focuses on, what I enjoyed watching on Thursday night were all those moments where two candidates disagreed on a policy point and clearly argued it. The Christie-Paul exchange on searches was the most heated, of course, but I really appreciated seeing the Christie-Huckabee exchange on Social Security, the brief Kasich-Walker exchange on Medicaid (the moment when I wished that Jindal was at the mainstage debate), and even that demure Bush-Rubio exchange on Common Core. I kept wanted the moderators to shut up and let the candidates keep literally debating each other ?partly because I realized that this is what I wanted to see in a Presidential primary event and partly because I knew that an Democratic primary debate wouldn’t have sort of moments of real policy disagreement (just candidates arguing over who best represented the demands of particular interest groups).

    3. in mencken’s words electoral politics is a “sort of advance auction in stolen goods)

  17. She knows this plan has no chance, it’s nothing more than a scheme to buy the votes of ignorant young people.

    1. Barry’s young voters are abandoning Hillary in droves. Her campaign is totally fucked if she can’t reverse that trend.

      1. Yup, they both rely on the young dumb ones, but Hillary especially. Older voters are much more likely to hold an accurate assessment of her character.

        1. My lawyer cousin visited a few weeks ago. She is over 50. She was regaling me about how brilliant Hillary is and how she will fix everything. The cognitive dissonance was palpable.

  18. So this is the State Stabilization Bailout v2.0 but it’s being sold as helping college students.

    It’s funny because college kids don’t vote.

    1. But when they do, they vote Team Blue.

    2. “college kids don’t vote”

      College Administrators do

  19. I do wish a democrat would define what they mean by wealthy just once.

    1. It’s all those evil rich fatcats making more than one million, 200,000, 100,000, $40,000 a year. So IOW, everyone who’s not on some type of government assistance.

    2. As with everything else they speak about, it’s all relative

    3. First of all the very concept of the line “millionaires and billionaires” pisses me off. Aside from the fact that how much money someone has is nobody else’s business, they are 3 orders of magnitude apart! As if Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are the same as the small business owner who has worked 18 hours a day for the last 10 years and finally one year has a good year and finally breaks $250,000.

  20. Those grants will also be conditional on making enough safe places available for everyone!

  21. Mrs. Clinton would pay for the plan by capping the value of itemized deductions that wealthy families can take on their tax returns.

    HAHAHAHAHA! This doesn’t even pass the smell test of the basest reality.

    Oh no, there’s no way the wealthy can avoid paying more taxes. Nope. Not even possible. All those tax and financial planners are just a figment of your cattle-ridden imagination.

  22. What colleges really need is more administrators and less competition with one another for ‘consumer’ dollars

    1. College students aren’t “consumers”, they’re our future. No amount is enough to secure our future.

  23. I have an idea. Let me know what you think.

    First, college should be guaranteed by government as a basic human right. To that end, college should be made affordable by a system of large federal subsidies. But colleges should not be allowed to discriminate between applicants on the basis of merit or ability. College should be open to all, regardless of their history or genetic disposition. This is, of course, an expensive proposition, so in addition to subsidies, college should be mandated to help spread around the cost of education to all of society. An informed electorate is a wise electorate, so individuals should be compelled to attend classes. If they only want a few classes, they’re welcome to take a bronze package. If they want more, there will be silver and gold packages, too.

    In only a few short years prices will fall and the intellectual health of the country will improve dramatically.

    1. If you mean that the costs will increase and the benefits will fall, then yeah, I agree.

      1. We won’t know that until we pass it.

    2. If I like my current degree can I keep my degree?

    3. the idea that people have a genetic disposition is… wait for it… racist!

  24. OT: File Under My Complete Lack of Surprise

    The Silicon Valley automaker is losing more than $4,000 on every Model S electric sedan it sells, using its reckoning of operating losses, and it burned $359 million in cash last quarter in a bull market for luxury vehicles. The company on Wednesday cut its production targets for this year and next. Chief Executive Elon Musk said he’s considering options to raise more capital, and didn’t rule out selling more stock.

    1. How DARE you question Elon the Lightbringer?!

    2. Established automakers such as General Motors Co and Ford Motor Co have amassed far larger cash cushions as they’ve rebuilt balance sheets battered by the 2008-2009

      And you’re welcome. My ass still hurts.

      1. Ford didn’t take any government bailout, I believe.

        1. IIRC, they took loans from the Fed’s discount window instead.

    3. Musk has steered Tesla out of tight corners before. In September 2012, the company faced a cash crunch, but raised money by selling shares and renegotiating the terms of a federal loan. The Model S started production in miod-2012.

      And you’re welcome. My ass still hurts.

      1. renegotiating the terms of a federal loan

        No crony capitalism here, nope, nothing to see, move along….

        1. Musk can’t build cars for shit, but, man, can he clean out the taxpayer pocket!
          Just wait’ll you see his human pea-shooter.
          A genius, I tell ya!

          1. Tesla’s Model S generates four credits per unit sold. This means the company can sell $20,000 in ZEV credits to other manufacturers for each Model S sold

            So losing $4K per car with $20K in subsidies per car, nevermind the sweetheart tax deals he gets.

            GENIUS

          2. As far I can tell from reading about it, Tesla’s cars are really just a way for Musk to get investment for his actual product, the battery systems that he’s been developing (look at the Hyperloop designs and even some of the SpaceX models; they’re predicated on new styles of batteries so as to reduce fuel weight) ? although why he figured that a snazzy-looking shell would compensate for the total lack of a real infrastructure for electric cars (especially with the boutique model that the company uses to sell/repair/cover up for the lack of service economy for them). If he had just gone for the less sexy direction and specialized in building a new generation of capital industrial machinery that runs off more efficient batteries, all those new industrial plants (for computers and such) going up in the Southwest and California would probably be knocking on his door without the complications of federal loans.

    4. Hey, if you’re losing on every unit you sell, why, cut the losses by not selling any!

      1. He’ll make it up in volume!

    5. And don’t forget the money shot from the article – The number is $15k per vehicle if you use GAAP instead of Elon Musk accounting principles.

  25. “Her plan has a price tag estimate of $350 billion over 10 years.”

    It seems more and more that govt spending estimates are given in 10 year increments. To make them seem smaller, I guess. “Hmm,” says the naive citizen, “that’s only $35B a year. That’s not bad at all.” Except, even assuming the est is accurate, that’s $35B per year FOREVER.

    1. Let’s assume that is the cost. How much of that 350 billion goes down a rat hole and no one seems to know where it went?

      Our current government, making an entire mere 350 billion disappear is a small time task.

    2. It seems more and more that govt spending estimates are given in 10 year increments.

      Has nothing at all to do with presidents serving eight years. Sez so onna label.

  26. In return for the money, states would have to end budget cuts…

    Typical Clinton: legislate via blackmail. It’s all about consolidating power.

    1. It would be really interesting to see a state run a balance sheet comparing the dollars fedgove blackmails them into spending, per dollar of “federal aid” received.

  27. I notice there is also the requirement forcing states to at least hold spending. One more un-funded mandate from Uncle Sugar…

  28. The Silicon Valley automaker is losing more than $4,000 on every Model S electric sedan it sells, using its reckoning of operating losses, and it burned $359 million in cash last quarter in a bull market for luxury vehicles. The company on Wednesday cut its production targets for this year and next. Chief Executive Elon Musk said he’s considering options to raise more capital, and didn’t rule out selling more stock.
    .
    What do you suppose happens once everybody who wants a Tesla has one?

    1. I’ve seen one, ever. And in this neighborhood, cars of that cost are fairly common. So I’m thinking they are not that popular.

      1. In northern California they are becoming increasingly common to the point where I see one every day. And this is on a 12 mile commute hours from the bay area. I think they are hitting saturation. While the vehicle is an impressive piece of tech it is only desirable to a narrow population segment.

        1. Must be a left coast thing.

        2. There’re only sold and serviced at Tesla locations and there’s still no real national infrastructure for recharging electric cars. Therefore, you only see them in certain areas around where they’re sold and serviced. Here in New Jersey, there was the major dust-up with the state “Coalition of Automobile Retailers” over direct sales (a lot of states also still band direct sales by companies and dealers, so that’s another issue) that was only resolved a few months ago, so I’m seeing them start to appear now that Tesla’s opened their locations in-state. But it’s a matter of cost, demographics, infrastructure, the legal loopholes of who can actually retail cars in what states ?it’s not surprising that Musk wandered into a market that’s hard for anyone to get into (notice how rare it is for a new company to enter the automotive field; even new labels are rare ?there was big new when Saturn was added by GM in the 90s ?but over recent years you labels being folded and companies merging/being bought out even before matters like GM’s “union insurance company with an automotive diversion” is considered)…

  29. To improve the nation’s 60 percent college graduation rate, Clinton would …

    … stop pretending that more than 60% of us are college material?

  30. http://www.chicagotribune.com/…..tml#page=1

    University of Illinois chancellor resigns after loss of confidence for mistakes that cost U of I hundreds of thousands in legal fees, and likely millions more in settlement over 1A violation and breech of contract. Pure incompetence is richly rewarded.

    Wise, whose salary is $549,069 this year, will receive a $400,000 lump-sum payment as part of her decision to step aside, said U. of I. spokesman Thomas Hardy.

    Nope, no bloat in college administration.

    Wise also can take the one-year paid sabbatical guaranteed in her contract before assuming her faculty appointment at the U. of I.’s School of Molecular and Cellular Biology. Her faculty salary has not been set, but her contract stipulates that it will be equal to the highest faculty salary in that department ? about $300,000, Hardy said.

    Nope, no bloat in academia.

  31. Why doesn’t she just advocate for capping the salary of all the college administrators and professors?

    After all Science proved that $70K is the best salary ever to have. Why not just cap all salaries at any university at that?

    http://time.com/money/3831828/…..dan-price/

    1. That’s a great case study. And he’s up-front that it’s just an experiment. But good luck rolling back those salaries after watching some employees still make really bad life decisions regardless of their income.

  32. So her plan is to increase federal spending to get states to increase spending.

    Just spend more money! Solid plan, should work great.

  33. The Wall Street Journal noted earlier in the month that there’s growing evidence, from the New York Federal Reserve in the most recent study, that the government throwing more money at colleges is precisely why the costs are skyrocketing.
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    Yeah. Like the New York Fed is a credible source.

  34. Scott Walker slashed Wisconsin university spending by $250 million, only to turn around and in the same budget bestow an identical $250 million on the Milwaukee Bucks basketball club to build a new playground for billionaires stadium. And this is the man who is polling second in the Republican primary race. Heaven help us.

  35. Maybe the government needs to pay. Then when people’s careers get screwed up by petty politicians they would not be out hundreds of thousands for a useless education.

  36. It’s really necessary to help students in debt. This problem is so big so I wonder why still nothing changes into the better. I’m watching this problem because my cousin also has a college debt and it doesn’t allow her to live normally. She still lives with parents because she can’t afford renting own place because of the debt. As I know she used to visit Payday Loans Online Service to stay afloat. Not everyone can afford to go to college. We can’t afford to have everyone go to college. Now if only it was possible to have a decent life without going to college (or some other post-2ndary education) we would be set.

  37. Real education is not expensive!! There are so many areas of study that don’t require college, or even school. For instance (segway…), I have a website that teaches people Chinese, for FREE (www.dougslanguagebook.com). It teaches people how to use modern learning methods and native speakers of the target language to teach themselves, so they aren’t dependent on the politics and bureaucracy of education to achieve their life goals.

    I believe this style of learning is the future of education; not only as an educational philosophy, but from a business standpoint as well. The education system has too many “gatekeepers”, who actually make their money by making education more difficult and exclusive. Free online education will make it impossible for people to continue profiting from this sick lie that “that’s just the price of a good education”.

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