Free Speech

Matt Welch Talks About Reason's Gag Order on HuffPost Live

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This afternoon I appeared on Alyona Minkovski's "Free Speech Zone" segment of her HuffPost Live show, to discuss the federal government's stifling of Reason's free speech. Watch it below:

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  1. Ok so stramlines can’t play cute facials mouthing brain tornadoes…..on this shit….

    I am FUCKING tired of my fucking phalanges pretending to like NOT getting high…..

    high and supremici… waaaaaaaaaaaaaay FUCKING gone bitches
    sweet love out

    planes and meth will be fuckef by my fat cock trinight

    1. I endorse this comment.

  2. Puffington Host is doing a better job reporting on this than the MSM.

    I has a sad.

  3. Advice please from those who deal with hardware:
    I have a Gateway laptop which is probably among the worst purchases I’ve ever made. I am tired of dealing with the numerous faults (the keys are printed; wonder why you can’t find the “e” key if you have to look?)
    Anyhow, after it overheated and shut down twice while watching Matt’s vid, I’ve gotten fed up.
    The memory capacity is fine. The screen stinks (HD format? Too wide, too short). The heat capacity stinks; overheats and quits after a couple of minutes into a vid.
    I need a larger screen, a better cooling design, a keyboard which doesn’t spit off keys (did I mention the gateway does?), and has them engraved so you can find them if you have to look.
    It could well be a processor under the desk with a monitor and keyboard on top. No need for games in any way shape or form.
    Got to have USB ports on the keyboard (on top of the desk) for a mouse, printers, camera loading, back up, etc.
    Suggestions welcome, with links if you would.
    MAN, this is a piece of shit!

    1. Laptops can be more critical on heat, because most move less air through the chassis. Are you sure your fan’s working. But you seem to be with a very bad model.

      Go to E-Bay, you can find a GOOD used computer from $70 or less. May need a separate monitor which will mostly be $15-20. Specify minimum 2 GB memory and 80GB minimum harddrive (larger if you have a lot of graphics/music files.) Not sure about laptop pricing there, but you don’t seem to care about that.. Pick a supplier with 100% buyer approval. EBay guarantees you’ll get what’s advertised. Your transaction will be “pending” transaction until you’ve received and checked it out. THEN the price is debited.. E-Bay is like an umpire!

      There’s a search function on the left side. Check all the stuff you understand. Do NOT search for “auction” (bidding). Search for “Buy it now” then sort the results by price, low to high.

      I’ve had a home ‘puter since 1978, bought on E-Bay myself on a friend’s advice, and suggest it to my friends. And you. (lol)

      1. Thanks, Mike.

        1. Sevo,
          Did you see the addenda, why you might want a vendor who has 10 or more on the same model?. (Some of them may say one or more skids)

          https://reason.com/blog/2015/06…..nt_5396701

    2. Sevo replace your hard drive with a solid state hard drive, or get a new laptop with a solid state hard drive.

      1. Also do not listen to Hinh. He is an idiot.

      2. A Solid State Hard drive has no moving parts. No movement, No friction, No heat.

        1. JPyrate|6.25.15 @ 1:18AM|#
          “A Solid State Hard drive has no moving parts. No movement, No friction, No heat.”

          I appreciate all this, and I know flash drives have no moving parts, but none of that addresses the keyboard or screen issues.
          I want a new piece of hardware that has a decent screen, a decent keyboard, USB ports on top of my desk and doesn’t goddam shut down after a couple of minutes of vid.
          I do NOT want to become a ‘puter wrench and fix what I’ve got. I want to toss it in the trash after the data is transferred from it.

          1. Get a Macbook Pro. You’ll die before it will.

            I have one with 8GB of ram and a 500GB SSD. It supports 3 external monitors. I have dual 27″ LED monitors in my war room, although I hardly ever use them….

            1. ^ also this. =)

            2. Does it come with a free ironic T-shirt and tips on how to conspicuously use it in coffee shops? 😉

            3. I have one with 8GB of ram and a 500GB SSD. It supports 3 external monitors. I have dual 27″ LED monitors in my war room, although I hardly ever use them

              All that to use PAINT?

            4. Actually, the battery will die. And it requires Apple to replace it.

            5. I have a 2011 model macbook and recently had it refurbished. (A ferret spilled my coffee on the keyboard). I use linux and windows on my desktop machines but my mac just works.

              I just upgraded my server to a SSD on the boot drive and it’s fantastic. I have the conversion kit to remove my optical drive and replace it with the current hard drive in my mac when I replace it with a SSD.

              And I can’t yell it loud enough. HIHN IS A FUCKING MORON. I built my first computer when I was 13 and that required using a soldering iron. I got online with my 300 baud modem to connect to BBS’s. In almost 40 years I have built 90% of my computers and I would NEVER recommend someone replace an overheating laptop with $75 junk from EBay. You’re likely to end up with worse specs than you currently have and will need to upgrade immediately.

              (snorting)
              (laughing)
              (crying)
              (sending depends to Mike)

              1. More aggression!
                Private FUQ
                And I can’t yell it loud enough. HIHN IS A FUCKING MORON.

                (yawn) I’ve had a home computer since 1978 , have been online since 1993, when I also began designing websites for my marketing clients and libertarian candidates.

                I would NEVER recommend someone replace an overheating laptop with $75 junk from EBay.

                (snicker) You fail to consider his very modest hardware needs … and (no offense, Sevo) his finances MAY be a bit tight at this time. Here’s my advice, Which parts have confused you

                Go to E-Bay, you can find a GOOD used computer from $70 or less. May need a separate monitor which will mostly be $15-20. Specify minimum 2 GB memory and 80GB minimum harddrive (larger if you have a lot of graphics/music files.) ? Pick a supplier with 100% buyer approval. EBay guarantees you’ll get what’s advertised. Your transaction will be “pending” until you’ve received and checked it out. THEN the price is debited..

                There’s a search function on the left side. Check all the stuff you understand. Do NOT search for “auction” (bidding). Search for “Buy it now” then sort the results by price, low to high.

                Ironically, E-Bay even has the best satisfaction guarantee (warrantees MAY be offered by the retailer) (Nobody gets your money until you’ve had a day or two to inspect/try the product,)

                Value AND peace of mind. (gasp)

            6. ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

              Sevo, are you at all averse to using a screwdriver and plugging some shit in? I could never recommend a vendor because I’ve never wasted the money buying a full system from one outside of laptops. If you’re serious about not needing mobility, there are some cheap solutions that will be more than adequate for what you need.

        2. JPyrate|
          Also do not listen to Hinh. He is an idiot.

          (laughing)

          A Solid State Hard drive has no moving parts. No movement, No friction, No heat.

          Instead of an entire computer for the same or less money?

          1. Well, an SSD is awesome for other reasons, like kicking the ass of anything bottlenecked by the disk.

            1. Bit rot.

        3. Uh…electrical resistance?

          Processors don’t have moving part an they get wicked haht.

          1. …fucking iPad keyboard.

          2. …fucking iPad keyboard.

          3. I knew what you meant. Haht actually looks better. You shall now spell hot as haht.

            If not, you’re gonna be vaporized.

          4. I have no idea how someone thinks that because something has no moving parts that it doesn’t generate heat.

      3. JPyrate|6.25.15 @ 1:15AM|#
        “Sevo […] get a new laptop with a solid state hard drive.”

        And what would this be?

          1. Shop around Sevo. =D

            1. Sevo your current Hard Drive is shot. That’s why you are having so many issues.

              1. It sounds more like a heat transfer issue. I’d say replace the thermal compound before suggesting a hard drive replacement, sight-unseen.

    3. In my experience this is often related to the thermal transfer compound between the processor and heat sink. Thermal grease breaks down over time, and replacing it can be a pain but the compound itself is inexpensive.

      If you don’t wish to replace the unit, I would suggest having a technician replace the thermal compound.

      1. Compound is wicked cheap, but laptops are almost universally horrible for disassembling and reassembling, and it’s hard to believe that a heat transfer problem between the die and the heat sink is THAT big of a problem on an old laptop. It might be a combination of several things, including a slowly-turning fan and dust/pet hair/etc. buildup.

        1. Laptop dis/re-assembly can be intimidating, but (Outside of Apple products, which I do not purchase or service) it’s just a matter of removing a few screws and cleaning away the old thermal compound with a bit of solvent and a paper towel. I don’t find it as difficult as, say, getting to the starter on a modern vehicle.

          It’s not something I do often, but I have seen this problem more than once. After 2 years my Vaio was running hot enough to burn my hand. It took about an hour of work and a $12 tube of Arctic Silver and ever since it’s been better than new. No more overworked fan. No more GPU throttling. Huge boost to performance.

          It can be that big of a problem, though perhaps it’s not something you see very often even if you service/refurb old machines.

          Of course it’s even better advice to blow out the dust and make sure the fan is running. That should be the first thing when dealing with overheating, and I assume this would be the first thing a user would do before attempting a repair.

    4. Sevo, I happen to have recently inherited two PCs I want to get rid of: a large-screen Toshiba laptop (Windows 8) and an HP all-in-one “Touchscreen” (Windows 7). Email my handle @gmail.com for details if you’re interested.

    5. Short =

      Chromebooks are great deal for $ if you can live with the non MS operating environment and just use Google open source apps as replacements. Don’t know how well they play with peripherals. Printing is a pain… But still very functional. Think a big android phone.

      Macbooks – soooo expensive and can be maddening if ur not familiar w/ applecentric computing. My old (2007) macbook melted itself because the processor hated streaming video. If you convert all video to html5 it is less heat-prone
      New generation is better made but still not great deal for price.

      There are recent crop of cheap (11″-13″) “2 in one” laptops from Acer / Asus that have SSD which really look appealing. (Have tablet/touchscreen features) For under $400 they have great specs and are more upgradable than a chromebook, work with external monitors, etc. Probably what I’d go for esp if I already had external display, hard drive & keys to simulate desktop use at home

      E.g.http://m.tigerdirect.com/products/9193554

      Anyway, best of luck

  4. No, that type of comment does not appear on websites all over the Internet. Reason is virtually the only major political content site that does not moderate comments. The interview discussed comments on HuffPost, which moderates and removes comments . Mother Jones, also discussed, moderates and removes comments.

    Comment moderation is done, across the right and the left by such sites as National Review, Wall Street Journal, Salon, Slate, Politco, Daily Beast, NY Times, WaPo, HuffPost, Mother Jones and many others.

    In 1993, I moderated the very first online libertarian forum (Compuserve), Moderation is not done to censor people. It’s done to protect the majority of readers from a few thugs who themselves attack and threaten nonconformity. It also protects the site’s reputation, which owners should care about
    .
    Free speech is not the only issue. Both Reason and libertarianism suffered public humiliation. Millions of Americans read about the “blowhard stupidity of Reason’s comment peanut gallery “– shown by libertarians debating the most vicious way to grind people up in a wood chipper, like head first or feet first. Yes, wood chippers are not a genuine threat. But most Americans would find it thuggish. This is a public website, and seeks to promote the movement to visitors ? not scare the shit out of them.

    The libertarian brand is already toxic, rejected by even 91% of libertarians. Enough!

    1. Concern troll is concerned. Again.

      1. BuSab Agent|6.25.15 @ 1:03AM|#
        Concern troll is concerned. Again.

        (lol) You’re not?
        What if Rand Paul ran a campaign ad, with him saying, “I will be the one who feeds Hillary into a woodchipper, then Pelosi and Obama. Visit my website and vote your choice of head first or feet first.”

        Would he run such an ad? If so, would that ad be effective, or stupid?

        1. He would get My vote. =D

          1. JPyrate
            He would get My vote. =D

            I already knew that. 🙂
            But would it help his campaign or destroy it?

            1. How will you help it, dipshit?

              1. egould310 reppin’ LBC
                How will you help it, dipshit?

                OMG, do you vote?
                Get back to me when you understand the issue.

        2. There’s a big difference between “I will…” and “Someone should….”

          1. PapayaSF
            There’s a big difference between “I will…” and “Someone should….”

            So you’d revise my question from this:

            “What if Rand Paul ran a campaign ad, with him saying, “I will be the one who feeds Hillary into a woodchipper, then Pelosi and Obama. Visit my website and vote your choice of head first or feet first.”

            Into this

            “What if Rand Paul ran a campaign ad, with him saying, “Someone should feed Hillary into a woodchipper, then Pelosi and Obama. Visit my website and vote your choice of head first or feet first.”

            And THAT version will not humiliate his campaign in the slightest!!
            I’ll forward a screenshot of your comment to Rand Paul’s campaign manager.
            Thanks!

            1. Please quit aggressing me Mike. A wipe between changes would be nice. I try to keep you from embarrassing yourself and you insist on giving me the brown stripe right away.

              (sniffs)

              And would it be too much to ask that you eat things that will keep your poop a little more solid? The constant weeping from your anus makes people gag from 10 feet.

              (choking)

              1. Mike Hihns Depends

                This is what passes for maturity among the goobers and bullies here. They also giggle like 3rd grade girls after comments like this

                Please quit aggressing me Mike.

                Where? (snicker)

                1. STILL no proof to support assault by the giggling 3-year-old girl (typical)

                  I haven’t seen such aggression to impose conformity since the 1950s.
                  I still recall how guys with hair longer than a brush cut (pre-Beatles)
                  would get dragged into the locker room and beat up by 2 or more guys (enforcers) … as coaches looked the other way.

                  Much as Reason looks away now, the only major political content website with no comment moderation. It’s not just a free speech issue. In 1993, I moderated the first ever online libertarian forums (Compuserve)

                  If I didn’t moderate the bullies and thugs, the much larger number of visitors would be afraid to speak, through aggression and intimidation, CompuServe would have gained a “dangerous” reputation, and I’d have failed my desire to promote libertarianism (I had tripled the active posters)

                  So … when we set aside the tribal alibis and bullshit … the goobers here are defending free speech by … stifling it!. Right?

                  Why is this rocket science? Because they’re goobers engaged in cyber-bullying. (not a free speech issue unless DOJ aggresses, duh)

    2. Michael Hihn|6.25.15 @ 12:54AM|#
      “No, that type of comment does not appear on websites all over the Internet.”

      Yes, you tired, old POS it does, and even the Huffpo hussy didn’t bother to argue the point.
      Mike, you need to find another site that might take your puritanical hissy-fits seriously and grant you some relevance. Here, you’re simply one more boring troll.
      Oh, and in case I forgot, fuck off, Mike.

      1. Dear Sevo: I previously had not heeded your advice regarding the Hihn. I now see the error of my ways.

        If it please you, sir, the Google Chromebook is amazing. Second after that would be my Mac Powerbook. (Work occasionally allows me the opportunity to test out laptops and other tech gear. If you’re looking for something nice, price be damned, the chromebook, then macbook pro, then down the Mac lineup, then down to Dell, and then any other windows-based garbage).

        And that Microsoft Surface pro thingie is garabge if you type a lot, however, I will say that if you work graphically/visually, or use Note a lot, and have integrated MS devices, you can do some very cool things with that stylus, graphing, etc.

        1. OK, no tablets, no mobile app software. Windows 7 to be converted to 10; entirely too much data in 7 already.
          My graphic use is Paint; simple; no load on the memory.
          I do not use mobile at all except GPS and finding, say, restaurants. I need a piece of hardware that has a decent screen and keyboard with USB ports on the desk.

          1. If it’s only Paint, you’re home free. Can meet your needs at E-Bay for as little as 1/3 the price of a Chromebook, and maybe 1/5 – 1/6 of a desktop PC.

            Ironically, E-Bay even has the best satisfaction guarantee (warrantees MAY be offered by the retailer)
            (Nobody gets your money until you’ve had a day or two to inspect/try the product,)

            For perhaps a greater sense of security. give the nod to a retailer who says they have 10 or more of the same thing. (Or a skid) That’s a 99% chance that they are trade-ins, active on a workstation VERY recently.

          2. Data is data, Sevo. It’s not tied to an OS unless it’s 100% specific to a proprietary application.

        2. AFSlade|
          Dear Sevo: I previously had not heeded your advice regarding the Hihn. I now see the error of my ways.

          Speaking of errors, check this link for yours, where everyone can see the error of your ways ..

          https://reason.com/blog/2015/06…..nt_5396645

          Then tell us which of the websites I listed does NOT moderate all their comments.

        3. AF Slade. Sevo is old school. He wants a decent laptop. Sevo take Af Slade’s advice and get a Chromebook.

      2. Sevo|6.25.15 @ 1:14AM|#
        Hihn” “No, that type of comment does not appear on websites all over the Internet.”

        Yes, you tired, old POS it does

        Which part confused you? Of the sites I listed, YOU state which ones don’t moderate

        and even the Huffpo hussy didn’t bother to argue the point.

        Umm, it was never a point. And her own site is moderated.

        Mike, you need to find another site that might take your puritanical hissy-fits seriously and grant you some relevance. Here, you’re simply one more boring troll.

        But I’m never a thug, never bully anyone, never shout anyone down … and never initiate aggression.

        Oh, and in case I forgot, fuck off, Mike.

        At least he didn’t threaten me with a woodchipper! Yet.
        I’ll assume we all know Sevo is a bully and a thug. I know it too (as a repeat victim). So check the following link, to see all the help I provided for his computer problem. Shows my class!. Decide for yourself who (if anyone) is a troll..

        https://reason.com/blog/2015/06…..nt_5396619

        Oh yeah, check the time stamps. I offered my help BEFORE his assault.
        1:11AM vs 1:14AM

        1. Mike, fuck off.
          Don’t you get it?

          1. Sevo|
            Mike, fuck off. Don’t you get it?

            Umm, I got it here:

            https://reason.com/blog/2015/06…..nt_5396645

            We’re all still waiting, Sevo, for you to tell us which of the many websites I mentioned does NOT moderate their comments.

            Sevo proves my point again. Imagine new visitors to this site. They see Sevo’s aggressions. . Are YOU proud of what they see as libertarians?
            I’m ashamed. And to think I helped him with his computer problem.

            1. Hinh. Shut the fuck up. Other commenters are trying to help out a friend.

              1. Pyrate|6.25.15 @ 1:54AM|#
                Hinh. Shut the fuck up. Other commenters are trying to help out a friend.

                Umm, I gave more help, as of this posting, which will also cost him less.
                And did it for someone who bullies me multiple times per page.

                I now have two “blowhards” (so far?) – attacking and committing aggression because …. I helped one of them (gasp)
                (“blowhards” is not my term, but how they were described to millions of Americans. . Do bullies and aggression advance or retard libertaranism?)

                (Anyone wonder why Reason’s “comment peanut gallery? was reported to millions of Americans as the “blowhard stupidity” of libertarians?)

            2. Michael Hihn…the village idiot.

              1. There’s no way this fucking guy is real. No way. Anyone who is actually that retarded couldn’t dress himself, let alone use a computer.

                1. Pl?ya Manhattan.
                  There’s no way this fucking guy is real. No way. Anyone who is actually that retarded couldn’t dress himself, let alone use a computer

                  More proof. The ones defending public humiliation by bullies and thugs are themselves bullies and thugs. NAP? HAH

                  Still nobody says Rand Paul should run campaign ads saying he wants to feed Hillary, Pelosi and Obama into a wood chipper. (An ancient technique known as “calling their bluff”)

              2. Francisco d’Anconia|6.25.15 @ 1:57AM|#
                Michael Hihn…the village idiot.

                Apparently, the faux Francisco would defend Rand Paul runing a campaign ad, declaring that he (Rand) would feed Hillary into a wood chipper, and we could vote on head first or feet first. And why not? Free Speech, right?

                I say it would be a fucking stupid ad. So who’s the village idiot?
                And why do they insist on giving me so much evidence?

          1. Himself.

          2. Pl?ya Manhattan
            Who are you talking to?

            Umm, the majority of readers here. If Reason is typical, then 90% of the readers never comment … perhaps higher here with all the bullying … many of them here to explore libertarianism.

            My turn. Are you supporting the cyber-bullies who defend free speech … by stifling it?
            If so, do you believe that Dachau was a sport stadium?

    3. Woodchippers! You’re next Hihn!!!

        1. JPyrate|6.25.15 @ 1:38AM|#
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52p9jc-gOo

          Great campaign video for Rand Paul!

          And here’s the original woodchipper scene from the movie, “Fargo.”
          The character was absolute bat-shit crazy, shot down by a cop, but the goober libertarians are proud … PROUD I SAY .. to emulate a madman.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyPhsD1vHGk

          1. LAWN EQUIPMENT WEEKLY RAVES:

            “I thought it was funny.”

            -T.W. Chipperson,

          2. LAWN EQUIPMENT WEEKLY RAVES:

            “I thought it was funny.”

            -T.W. Chipperson,

            1. Fucking SQRLS.

              Apparently tapping submit on a mobile while the keyboard is displayed leads to a post, but not refresh. I have to lower the keyboard, then click submit to get both to occur. Any ideas if this is on my end or Reason’s?

    4. … a few thugs who themselves attack and threaten nonconformity.

      Yeah, wouldn’t want any Libertarian sites threatened with non-conformity. Libertarianism is all about conformity, right? Wait, what?

      The libertarian brand is already toxic, rejected by even 91% of libertarians.

      I just gotta ask what your citation is for that statistic. That’s an awful lot of self-loathing libertarians.

      1. hmmm

        Cloudbuster|
        … a few thugs who themselves attack and threaten nonconformity.

        Yeah, wouldn’t want any Libertarian sites threatened with non-conformity.

        Thanks for agreeing with me, Cloudbuster! Libertarians should not be threatened and attacked for non conformity, by thugs and bullies..

        Libertarianism is all about conformity, right? Wait, what?

        What? Wait? I said exactly the opposite. And you even quoted me.

        a few thugs who themselves attack and threaten nonconformity.

        Translation: It’s the few thugs who impose conformity with attacks and threats.
        Plenty of proof above this reply.

        1. Dude, bro. Do NOT keep chewing on that pencil. It’s a cat turd. NOT A PENCIL!

      2. Cloudbuster
        The libertarian brand is already toxic, rejected by even 91% of libertarians.

        I just gotta ask what your citation is for that statistic.

        Survey commissioned by Cato , conducted by a top political pollster, Zogby. Check the link. This is edited to the character limit.

        http://www.cato.org/policy-rep…..-2004-2006

        “In our Zogby survey we found that only 9 percent of voters with libertarian views identify themselves that way. Voters we identified as libertarian identified themselves this way: “Would you describe yourself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal?” We asked the other half of the respondents, “Would you describe yourself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, also known as libertarian?”
        Fully 59 percent ? said they would describe themselves as “fiscally conservative and socially liberal.”
        The addition of the word “libertarian” clearly made the question more challenging. … A robust 44 percent of respondents answered “yes” to that question.

        “robust: means that 25% rejected adding “libertarian” to the Nolan definition. (lol)
        Cato cites a Rassmussen survey where 87.5% of libertarians rejected the brand.

        That’s an awful lot of self-loathing libertarians

        Umm, they loathe nothing but reject the brand, making it toxic.

        1. I wonder who could have contributed mightily to toxifying the Libertarian brand. Who could it be, who could it be…?

          1. Old Man With Gag Order
            I wonder who could have contributed mightily to toxifying the Libertarian brand. Who could it be, who could it be…?

            Simple. If YOU self-identify as libertarian then they’re rejecting YOU. See how easy that was?

            Overall, OBVIOUSLY the anti-gummint purists are the toxic agents — since the rejection is by Nolan Chart libertarians, who are the exact opposite.

            And obviously not me, since I got elected twice, two different states, and won a schools tax revolt. And, umm, why would they reject the one on this page (and Nick’s story) who’s defending them?

            And WHO was reported to millions of Americans nationwide as the “blowhard stupidity of Reason’s libertarians peanut gallery … with examples to show it.

            The more frequent survey finds prox 15% identify as libertarian. But that collapses to 5.3% if the Nolan definition is also a choice. “Only” a 65% rejection that way.

            Any other questions?

    5. I think the only ones humiliated so far have been the DoJ.

      1. Cloudbuster|6.25.15 @ 1:47AM|#
        I think the only ones humiliated so far have been the DoJ.

        Only on the free speech issue.
        The tribal denial is awesome here. If Rand Paul ran campaign ads wanting to feed Hillary, Obama and Pelosi into a wood chipper … would that advance his campaign or totally destroy it?

    6. Bullshit. It doesn’t matter what we do. Our politics are not correct, so jokes, frustrated or not, will. WILLS be taken as proof of our depravity.

      #killallmen? Totally fine.

      #dontsubpoenamebro? ZOMG, LOOK AT TRH LOOOOOOOOOONIES!!!1!!,!1?!$&@)(?!

      1. Vapourwear
        Bullshit.

        Are you new to libertarianism or just an all around conspiracy type?

        It doesn’t matter what we do. Our politics are not correct, so jokes, frustrated or not, will. WILLS be taken as proof of our depravity.

        We have no politics, as a senior Reason editor described Ron Paul — great on principle, terrible on politics.

        59% of Americans self-identify as libertarians.
        A majority has been shown in the libertarian quadrant of the World’s Smallest Political Quiz for over 30 years. But we ignore our own majority for decades, focus now on independents who are much smaller overall … and 30% or more collectivist.

        Blaming the people is a convenient alibi, but on all the evidence, the movement fucking sucks at politics for decades. And now we’re strongly identified with extreme social conservatives — the same people that libertarians left the GOP to get away from.

        It’s like General Custer was designing our strategies.

    7. You’re talking about sites that exist for smart people to tell dumb ones what to think. More egalitarian or populist sort of sites (where it’s all audience, or where there’s more of a dialogue) are correspondingly less moderated.

  5. Good show, Matt. Preach it.

  6. Matt Welch is a sexy Mother Fucker. =)

    1. Go to bed Welch.

      1. See i was thinking it was SusanM(?) Nikki(?). One of our resident token female libertarians (disclaimer: TANLW) is high on Matt.

        For the record I agree with JPyrate, but it’s because of the libertarianism.

        1. I am a dude, but Matt brings out my Tiny Tina. =)

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z7SfF5lXMQ

          1. Best tea party, EVAH!

        2. Nikki is just high, period.

  7. Welch recently re-tweeted a historical picture.

    This is what it looks like now.

    1. We gotta do a SoCal Readonoid meetup at the Shellback. Nice place to spend the day getting buzzed (drunk).

      1. I used to be an occasional there, many years ago. My brother was more of a regular.

        The rule: jungle juice in a cooler on the beach, and finish off at Shellback.

        1. Used to bike down there from Venice in the ’90’s. Get wasted watching football and then crash my bike about 70 times on the ride home. Bruised and cut, but had a great afternoon.

  8. Playa Manhattan, Playa Manhattan?

    I think I recognize the Rockfish on the left. Pretty sure I’ve eaten there.

    1. On behalf of your colon, I beg you, do NOT eat there. Drinks only.

      1. They cook everything over an oak fire. It’s good, if not a bit overpriced. Snob.

        1. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rockfish is okay. Was still focused on Shellback. Been in Long Beach too long and the South Bay is getting hazy.

          1. Long Beach has some great new places.

            DTMB is getting too expensive. I’ll try a place once, press the chef for recipes if it’s good, and then never go back.

            Jesse was telling me about a mediocre $40 brunch he had down there the other week. That’s criminal.

  9. Fucking Christ Hinh. If I spoke to my suppliers like you speak to people. I would not not have any product to work with.

    1. hmmm

      JPyrate|
      If I spoke to my suppliers like you speak to people. I would not not have any product to work with.

      Got any details? Know what self-defense means?
      What if you talked with your suppliers about feeding people into woodchippers
      , and they saw you reported nationwide as a “stupid blowhard”
      ( I wish you well, dealing with such raging hatred.)

    2. JPyrate is IRATE (and it rhymes!).

      Fucking Christ Hinh. If I spoke to my suppliers like you speak to people. I would not not have any product to work with

      Anyone else laughing that he launched that particular sermon with the “F” word?

      Despite his sermon, how does JPyrate talk to people?

      He is an idiot.
      Shut the fuck up

      Such hypocrisy is common among bullies. They attack anyone who notices.

      1. Just reminding you that I need to be changed. The anal leakage is always bad when you scream at the computer screen. Also, you peed about 2 hours ago and I realize you like that warm wetness and how it feels but its starting to make your balls blister.

        1. (laughing at the aggression)

  10. Great Googly Moogly. It almost feels like the second coming of White Indian with the copy pasta trolling.

    1. White Indian was the Lagavulin of crazy. At best, Hahn isn’t much more than discount rotgut.

  11. A recent AARP poll found that 91% of libertarian adult diapers reject the libertarian adult diaper label. This poll also found that 59% of adult diapers labeled themselves as “stylishly conservative” and “socially acceptable” which puts them on the Colon chart as “libertarian adult diaper”.

    (fart)
    (ooze)

    Commentors at libertarian magazine Dingleberry have thoroughly embarrassed the libertarian adult diaper movement when they were described as “leakers” and “stinkers” by the child diaper press after posting comments such as…

    “Judge Poopy Head should be thrown in a woodchopper for allowing anal leakage”

    “Judge Poopy Head should be taken out back and covered with poop”

    (snort)

    Millions of people now won’t take the libertarian adult diaper movement seriously anymore because of comments like this. You peanuts are destroying the movement I created.

    (stomps off with football)

    1. More childish aggression (yawn)

    2. Why aggression at me … because two top political pollsters found the libertarian brand rejected by even 91% of libertarians (Zogby) (87.5% rejection in Rassmussens poll) … all as reported by the Cato Institute (gasp). Denial more severe than Birthers?
      Cyber-Bullying and Stalking?

      Who to believe?
      a) Rasmussen Polling, Zogby Polling and the Cato Institute?
      b) Childish goober aggressors?

      (posted in response to aggression. giving me all the more evidence!)

  12. “(stomps off with football)”

    Took him long enough.

  13. I find Welch’s attire here acceptable.

    1. His tie the other day looked like his daughters knit it by hand

      Which would be soooooo awesome if they did. I believe huffpo does not actually rate a tie. Or shoes. I would rock a linen suit, a Skynyrd T-shirt, flip-flops and a very unkempt beard. Think ‘Rick Rubin’ on a good day.

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