Movie Reviews: Inside Out and Soaked in Bleach
Pixar animation back in top form, and the Kurt Cobain case continues to fester.


A little girl is born; her parents name her Riley. Bending down over her bassinet, mom and dad gaze into their new baby's eyes. Inside Riley's head—her Headquarters—five fledgling emotions gaze back. They're gathered at an elaborate control console, ready to begin their job, which will of course last a lifetime.
Inside Out is a return to classic form for Pixar Animation Studios, and a storytelling triumph for Pixar star Pete Docter (who also directed Monsters, Inc. and Up, and cowrote Toy Story and WALL-E). Working with writers Ronnie Del Carmen, Meg LeFauve, and Josh Cooley, Docter has fashioned a tale that's dizzyingly inventive, filled with daffy situations, crackerjack lines, and moving truths about human nature. The movie is an all-ages marvel.
As Riley grows happily toward adolescence in suburban Minneapolis, her Headquarters is dominated by blue-haired Joy, a manic optimist ("Find the fun!"). But Joy (voiced with whiplash precision by Amy Poehler) struggles to control her fellow emotions: gloomy Sadness (Phyllis Smith), fidgety Fear (Bill Hader), acid-tongued Disgust (Mindy Kaling) and hot-headed Anger (Lewis Black). Joy manages to maintain a sunny outlook for Riley (Kaitlyn Dias) for 11 years—until one day her mother (Diane Lane) and father (Kyle MacLachlan) announce a move to San Francisco, where dad has a new job waiting. Suddenly, trouble clouds move in.
Pixar is based in the Bay Area, and it's amusing to find that the San Francisco we see here is a little grim. There are hellish traffic jams ("These are my kind of people!" Anger exults), and Riley's new house is dark and unwelcoming. Joy helps Riley make the best of it, but when she and Sadness are suddenly drawn away from Headquarters and out into the wilder regions of Riley's mind, the remaining emotions take over, with chaotic results.
The movie keeps us fully briefed on Riley's new life, but most of the action takes place inside her head, where her accumulating memories roll into Headquarters in the form of glowing, bowling-ball-size globes. Ranged around outside the Headquarters tower are a series of islands representing aspects of Riley's developing personality: Friendship Island, Honesty Island, the delirious Goofball Island. When Fear, Disgust, and Anger are left to man the Headquarters controls, the islands begin to tremble. Will Joy and Sadness make it back in time to avert disaster?
Hopping aboard a Train of Thought, these two soon find themselves passing through places like Long Term Memory, the wacky world of Abstraction, and the scary depths of the Subconscious. Their adventures in these realms are rendered in the sleek, hyper-saturated Pixar style, every gesture and burst of action worked out in dazzling detail. And the movie's emotional design is also trademark Pixar. At one point, Joy and Sadness encounter an Imaginary Childhood Friend named Bing Bong (Richard Kind), who's part elephant and part dolphin—and who realizes that he's slowly being forgotten by his onetime real-world pal.
In the spirit of taunting puppies and stomping kittens, I would also say that the adventures of Joy and Sadness are sometimes overextended—toward the end, the colorful pandemonium occasionally begins to wear. But that's a minor nit to pick in a movie whose sole flaw is that it might be too much of a good thing.

Soaked in Bleach
Who killed Kurt Cobain? The official verdict is: he did. Sometime around April 5, 1994, the Nirvana leader injected himself with a massive overdose of heroin at his Seattle home and then used a shotgun to finish the job. Almost immediately after Cobain's body was discovered, on April 8, Seattle police announced that he had committed suicide.
But 21 years later, a large and vocal contingent of Nirvana fans and true-crime aficionados continues to insist that Cobain was murdered, in a scheme overseen by his wife, Hole leader Courtney Love, who feared that her husband was about to divorce her and write her out of his will.
This version of events has already been probed by Nick Broomfield in his 1998 documentary Kurt & Courtney. Now, in the new film Soaked in Bleach, first-time director Benjamin Statler revisits the case, once again with ambiguous results. The story is still provocative, but Statler has nothing new to add to it.
Statler relies heavily on the assertions of Tom Grant, the private investigator Courtney hired to find Cobain after he disappeared from a Los Angeles rehab facility just days before his body was found. Grant, also featured in Broomfield's documentary, is this film's main talking head, as well as a character (played by actor Daniel Roebuck) in its many reenacted scenes. If the picture made any gesture in the direction of objectivity (not that there's any reason it should have to), these scenes would undermine it. They're clearly scripted, with the faux Grant and Courtney (Sarah Scott, in a diaphanous negligee) conversing at length in her bedroom. Since these conversations are undocumented, we have only Grant's word that they happened the way he says they did. (Although when he claims that Courtney was either doing drugs or on drugs whenever he spoke to her, this is instantly believable.)
Grant taped all of his phone conversations with Love. Some of them rouse suspicions, and none of them stir any sympathy for her. (Brash and blowsy, she is, shall we say, a divisive music-scene figure.) However, when one tape is played twice so that we can hear Courtney saying, "The people I had do this, I paid," we immediately realize that she's not talking about Cobain's death—the line has been hammered home to thicken the film's atmosphere of dark treachery. Similarly, interviews with old friends of Cobain in his home town of Aberdeen, Washington, tell us very little. One of these friends says he never thought of Cobain as suicidal ("He always seemed happy")—but then that was long before he and his band were swamped by stardom.
With its rainy nightscapes and other film-noir flourishes, Statler's picture plays like a minor homage to Errol Morris's true-crime classic The Thin Blue Line. But that movie got a man off death row. Despite the torrent of innuendo directed at Love and one of Cobain's friends and one employee, nothing is nailed down (which hasn't dissuaded Love from having cease-and-desist orders served on theatres planning to screen the film). The only direct hit the picture lands is on the Seattle Police Department, which—among several things—took a month to process Cobain's shotgun for fingerprints, and never even developed four rolls of film used to photograph the crime scene. The SPD now says it did reexamine the evidence in the case last year, and it finally developed that film (although not all of the resulting photos have been made public). Conclusion: still suicide. When forensic pathologist Cyril Wecht, best known for his assault on the Warren Commission's Kennedy-assassination report, weighs in here to call for a reinvestigation of Cobain's death—and to urge that Seattle police play no part in it—it's hard not to see this as the best way to deal with the public doubts that still linger after all these years.
I must mention that I pop up in this film at a couple of points, in old MTV footage, exemplifying the feckless media that swallowed whole the suicide narrative retailed by Love and the SPD. Why did we not conduct our own investigations to reveal the ugly facts of Cobain's death? There's something to this: credulous journalists have often been led around by the nose by manipulative sources. That said, though, there's a difference between reporting on an event at the time it happens, relying on what little information may be known, and later launching a full-scale inquiry at great cost in time and money, which is usually unforthcoming. In any case, Cobain's death has been investigated—by Grant, by Broomfield, and now by Statler, among others. And still, no conclusions have been reached. Like the Kennedy assassination, the Cobain case is unlikely ever to be explained to everyone's satisfaction.
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Where da Lynx?
I see your hand is trembling...
It's the first time in awhile I haven't been busy at 0900 and they blue ball me. God damnit ENB!
The links were up at 9 a.m. precisely!... they were just hidden. (Accidently published as an article, not H&R, page).
I knew it was ENB! You broke my heart.
Lynx were put under a gag order because one of the linked articles had the word "wood", and a person was described in another article as being "chipper", and an ADA thought it was a threat.
I see popehat is still beating the drum. Bless them.
Fridays seem to be a bad day for the Lynx.
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Only way a Loder movie review can get lots of comments is by delaying AM links
MOURNING LYNX!
Poor Kirt Loder. Always getting his reviews wedged in between Friday Funnies and the AM links.
He should file a microaggression suit against The Jacket.
Also, I liked "inside out" better when it was "herman's head".
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Hitler! It's ALWAYS Hitler!
I'll grant they're stupid enough, but I think they'd have botched the job.
Chuck Burris
My daughter has been looking forward to seeing Inside Out since the first trailer hit in December. She already has two books and a "Joy" doll.
Ah, Disney. I may as well just sign all my paychecks directly over to you.
Your Future Reptilian Overlords sympathize. Even our female hatchlings want to be princesses. And somehow this Disney organization manages to charge us licensing fees.
True dat, my scaly lord and master. Our house is packed with royal accoutrement; that Sofia The First is a powerful drug.
Yes indeed. Imagine trying to explain to a bunch of reptile babies why they can't actually go to a real ice palace. That movie based on transferring the latent heat of fusion out of water has greatly burdened my people.
Haven't watched much Disney since getting over my crush on Annette Funicello.
I enjoyed The Croods. Animation these days can be just incredible. It's also incredibly unbelievable anyone could possibly doubt that Courtney Love murdered Kurt even if only with her obscenely grotesque cuntiness. If for no other reason than it's such a good theory, it is just incredible that anyone could choose not to believe it.
Well, yes, Disney does some wonderful things with film electrons. But I enjoy seeing their movies because, unlike the rest of Hollywood, they include a little something extra, called a "story." Usually an original one.
Everyone else is looking for a brand new concept with a proven track record.
Is it just me, or does Inside Out sound like an animated version of Herman's Head?
There are lots of ways to tell any story.
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Kurt Loder doesn't sound terribly confident. This is an intellectual spaghetti punch thrown at a subject he either does not understand and/or willfully misrepresents.
For example, Loder insists that the Seattle Police have genuinely reinvestigated the death of Kurt Cobain?as if this should end the argument, but then ignores the fact that former Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper appears in the film and insists that the case should be reopened. Loder also ignores the significance of the 1.52 mg of heroin found in Cobain's blood when he died. This evidence makes it impossible for Cobain to have shot himself, but Loder dismisses it without comment.
This wasn't an honest review. The reality is that Courtney Love took advantage of Kurt Loder in 1994?a fact that has not been lost on those who have followed this case. For example, Loder spoke to Courtney Love the day after Kurt Cobain's body was discovered and repeated their conversation live on MTV. According to Loder, Love told him that Cobain wrote "It's not fun for me anymore. I can't live this life" in the suicide note. But that line doesn't appear anywhere in the actual note. You would think a lie like that might force Loder to question Courtney Love's story. But he never has, at least not publicly.
My guess is that Kurt Loder does not want Kurt Cobain's death to be reinvestigated because he doesn't want to look like a fool. Unfortunately for him, he already does.
I didn't say SPD has "genuinely reinvestigated" Cobain's death. I said the SPD "now says it did." Then I note Cyril Wecht calling for a reinvestigation of the case without the SPD taking part. Then I suggest that's a good idea...
KL, I'm surprised your review didn't mention all of the recordings from Rosemary Carroll, the handwriting sheet, etc! Come on! The "suicide note" seems suspect the way the handwriting on the bottom doesn't match the top & then they find a handwriting practice sheets in Courtney's backpack! Who practices copying other people's handwriting? How do you ignore that? I'm sure you know Courtney on a personal level... maybe that has shaped your opinion of the whole situation, but I don't think your review of this movie was fair. I think people like Courtney can very easily manipulate situations and people. Please try to stay objective!
A review can't be a simple transcription of a movie's entire content. People can watch the film and make up their own minds.
While obviously you can't cover everything, you should cover the strongest evidence. You say, "The only direct hit the picture lands is on the Seattle Police Department, which?among several things?took a month to process Cobain's shotgun for fingerprints, and never even developed four rolls of film used to photograph the crime scene."
I think that misrepresents how strong the case is by omission and you deciding that this is the only salient point worth mentioning. Circumstantial evidence, if strong enough, can convict a person of murder (hello Hans Reiser). At the very least, there are some very suspicious points around this case that deserve mentioning in any review.
And a nitpick: Wikipedia tells me that "The Thin Blue Line" got a man out of life in prison, not death row. His death row sentence had been overturned by the Supreme Court 8 years earlier.
I appreciate your reply, but the first line of your review is this: "Who killed Kurt Cobain? The official verdict is: he did."
Powerful statement to open your analysis.
You didn't say "Who killed Kurt Cobain? Watch the film & see for yourself."
I agree with your comment! I found the movie pretty convincing.
Ah yes, the note that Mr. Grant was able to get a copy of and otherwise probably would have never been seen by the public. This lie from Courtney Love was told before Mr. Grant obtained his copy so I would assume she didn't have any plans of making it public, other than what she chose to disclose in her phony reading to fans. Conveniently leaving out parts to make it seem as if there was much more to it.
What I would like to know from Mr. Loder, could you please explain why you completely believed what Courtney Love said to you and didn't even think to question it? Or did you question it and reported the lies anyway? Please let me know your thoughts on this because I am baffled as to why anyone in their right mind wouldn't question everything out of this woman's mouth
It seemed completely believable that Kurt Cobain would have killed himself. I was a huge fan of Nirvana back then, and when I turned on MTV and saw Loder's report, I wasn't surprised at all. So until you know what Tom Grant claims, there's not much reason to think it could be anything else than suicide. And Loder certainly didn't know that in the weeks after the death and didn't know that months later when he interviewed Courtney for Week in Rock. I'm still on the fence about what happened, I can believe both scenarios. But to say it was wrong for Loder to not be suspicious that a very troubled guy who nearly died a month before in Rome killed himself with what we only knew in spring/summer 1994 is nuts.
Who is suggesting he was wrong for being suspicious? To take Courtney Love's word for anything at all at any time is absolutely nuts! I was 17 when he died and I remember Loder and others reporting the news with absolute confidence it was truth. So thats pretty irresponsible wouldn't you say?
I was curious as to why he took her word for it, without question, and still no response. And by the way, not everyone viewed Cobain as suicidal at the time prior to his death. And, Grants can back up his claims unlike some others involved. People should be glad SOMEONE is interested in getting to the truth. Bottom line is the case should be reopened. Whether it's Kurt Cobain or Mr. Smith next door. No one can deny his death was not investigated properly. Less than an hour to be ruled a suicide?? By patrol officers?? The ME didn't show up until after 11:00 am! Would anyone want the death of a loved one treated this way? I doubt it. Unless they had a motive for murder which Courtney Love certainly had. Anyone who can't see that, as clear as day, must be blind.
Courtney had no reason to be suspicious in April 1994. She was just his rock star wannabe wife nobody cared about, and few even knew who she was beyond "that woman who said she took heroin while pregnant." You're projecting your opinion of her today back to 1994 when honestly we knew very little about her. There was no reason to be suspicious about his death until Tom Grant gave his side of the story. The details of the Rome incident weren't even public yet, since Cobain wanted it kept private.
I'm sorry. You must have completely missed my point there.
My opinion of Courtney Love today is hardly any different than it was back then. I wasn't, and am not now, a Nirvana or Kurt Cobain superfan either by the way.
She's consistently displayed psychopathic behavior throughout the years, and that stretches way back before she married into fame and money. She's just had more time to show more to the world. If you can't see that, I don't know what to say. Doesn't take a genius to recognize it. To take someone's word, who has absolutely no credibility and present it to the world as fact, is irresponsible. And that's plain logic. No projection, no nutty "conspiracies", just plain old common sense.
Courtney Love hiring someone to kill Kurt Cobain is a 'conspiracy theory', and 'conspiracy theories' can't be true whether they're true or not.
BINGO
kurt kurt kurt..... i was 12 in 1994, your word was god and law, just like Courtney's was... too bad they were all lies. Go back to your news report 4/14/94... You reported everything that Courtney told you. YOU WENT ON MTV and lied about facts, facts nobody even bothered checking. You were lied to, you in turned, lied to us, the public, and you've never retracted any of it....
case in point:
"Cobain was unrecognizable" not true
"Cobain was barricaded in the room" not true
"Cobain pulled up a chair and shot himself while looking out a Puget Sound" (i thought he was barricading the world out with that chair...)
"Cobain's mother filed a missing persons report" it was Courtney, not Wendy...
Looking back, do you realize how much you helped Courtney push her "Kurt's suicidal!!!" narrative after his death??? Who are we kidding, Of course you do!!! Very Sloppy SLOPPY reporting on your part, but hey now, you were awesome in "Sugar and Spice"...
very disappointed in you, but hey, you're in the media, i wouldn't expect any shred of truth from people like you...
That's not MTV or Loder's fault, that's what every news organization was saying. It didn't come out until a while later that Cobain actually didn't have an exit wound from the shotgun, that he didn't barricade the room and that Courtney posed as his mother to talk to police. I don't think this was made public until Tom Grant came forward, and he didn't get noticed until about a year (or maybe longer) after Cobain's death and didn't get widely known until he was on Unsolved Mysteries around 1997. And I doubt the cops wanted to waste a bunch of their time talking to MTV giving details of a case. I think most of the media got a recording when they called giving what they knew IIRC. The police were swamped with media calls from all over the world and didn't think it was relevant to talk about the details of what they ruled a suicide.
welp, you see Double C, the point i seemed to mistakenly not make was that even after everything came to light, even after Kurt Loder maybe realized Courtney had been playing him for a fool on live TV. A lot of time has passed and he's had to go over the fact that COURTNEY LOVE STRAIGHT UP LIED TO HIS FACE FOR THOSE FIRST 2 YEARS on national TV. What is Mr. Loder to do??? Continue the narrative that anyone who doubts the cause of death as "suicide" are just a bunch of "delusional conspiracy theorist" or should he argue that people like me and everyone else that thinks the investigation was a farce are deserving of an apology from the Seattle PD... anyways, its never gonna happen. peace love and cynicism
Did you read his review? He says the case should probably be reopened.
So the idea that MTV was going to relaunch an investigation into the case is silly. Number one, it's MTV, a music video station solely made to make money, and there was no money to be made on that. Loder was just an employee, so it wouldn't have been up to him anyway. He was good at what he did, but he wasn't Walter Cronkite, he was a guy interviewing The Spice Girls and Puff Daddy. Nobody in the media would have taken it seriously. MTV also didn't investigate who killed Tupac Shakur, so it's not like it was solely a conspiracy to protect Courtney Love. She was a flash in the pan who meant nothing to MTV by 1997 anyway. They didn't even bother supporting Celebrity Skin and it tanked.
And regardless, I don't think if they did do it they would have gotten anymore out of it than Nick Broomfield or Ian Halperin did. None of Cobain's bandmates believe he was murdered, and I don't think any friends do beyond Kim Gordon. So they would have gotten the same El Duce-as-biggest-source story Broomfield got. Although Kurt Loder interviewing El Duce would have been amazing television.
Maybe you shouldn't bother replying to comments if you haven't even read what the commenter has said. You're going in a completely different direction here. Each time.
The thing that convinced everyone back then was when they played the tape recording of a sobbing Courtney Love reading Kurt's complete 'suicide note' to a huge crowd in Seattle at his memorial. MTV broadcast it continuously. They must have played it a hundred times and not knowing what we know we all bought her performance hook line and sinker. Courtney is able to sob on cue. She played the party of the grieving widow to a tee. It was an Academy Award winning performance. Hindsight being 20/20 we now see what an incredibly irresponsible thing it was to give that platform to the one who orchestrated his murder. But the real culprits are the Seattle Police. For their ineptitude and just plain laziness. But let's remember that the SPD hated Kurt and the whole grunge junkie scene. It gave their city a terrible image in their opinion. Seattle became know for garage band music, coffee and heroin. They were most likely glad it was a suicide as it proved that junkies were doomed. And it ended the whole Seattle grunge pop scene. Thank goodness Tom Grant, a competent investigator was on the scene or we wouldn't know any of this.
i need an amy poehler in my head.
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He spent two years in college "and just hated it". He was drafted into the United States Army and joined its journalism school. Loder stated that he "just fell into" his field, elaborating that his "entire journalism background is four weeks... That's it. Nothing else. You can learn journalism in four weeks. It's not an overcomplicated thing. It's very, very simple." He was in the military for three years.
Tabitha Sornberger[2] .
As the first child of a career Air Force officer (she has a younger sister, Erin), Soren moved constantly and her upbringing relied on speed-cycle coping skills. By the time she was 3, and her father, John T. Sornberger, had been sent to Vietnam, she had already moved six times. "I felt over-scrutinized on a daily basis," she says. "I was different in the Philippines because I was white. In Germany, I was different because I was American. In Florida, I was different because I didn't want to grow up to be a prom queen."
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My main problem with this review is this part:
"The SPD now says it did reexamine the evidence in the case last year, and it finally developed that film (although not all of the resulting photos have been made public). Conclusion: still suicide."
Did the reviewer not hear the part where Det. Ciesynski says that nothing was going to change his mind? He did not give a thorough re-examining. He straight out said his mind was made up and that the undeveloped pictures where not going to change that. But then Det. Ciesynski admits that Cobain was administered with a fatal dose of heroin. A FATAL DOSE!! Det. Ciesynski says this on camera! So the next question would be- if he administered a fatal dose, how did he pickup, load, maneuver, and shoot a shotgun? This review really lacks critical thought- which I guess should be expected of Kurt Loder- someone being paid to shill out whatever his bosses want without actually having to think.
Yep you gotta love that taped interview. He didn't accomplish much except making himself look like a total fool.
But you know, people inject 10X's a lethal dose of heroin and get up, load 3 shells into a shotgun, after cleaning up and tidying their gear, shirt sleeves etc. sit down and shoot themselves all the time.
And it should be acceptable to pronounce suicide within minutes without any investigation because, hell, it looked like a suicide and everyone expected it!
Take for instance, Philip Seymour Hoffman, who shot up an overdose into his veins. How was he found? Needle still in arm, stopped dead in his tracks, as Kurt should have been found... but no.
Old thread but I just saw the movie....If it takes 15 - 30 seconds for heroin to reach the brain, and the gun is already loaded, there is more than enough time to get the job done. Just pretend. You shoot your heroin, now count to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12..................30. See what I mean. As far as the shell being on the wrong side, pretend to do this as well. Is it not possible that the shell bounced off his own right arm considering the position you have to be in to shoot yourself with a shotgun? Of course it is. As far as Tom Grant's only motivation being the truth...why does he charge $$$$$ for all his interviews, and 40 bucks for a 168 page book and another 25 bucks if you want part 2 of the book? Not to mention this docudrama. Really, why is he profiting off of a man's death if he is merely motivated by the truth. Like Tom, I'm just asking questions.
Mr. Loder I hope you are no where near Courtney Loves universe. Bad place.
Latecomer, was Netflix and chilling with this random Cobain movie, and I just have to make mention of something here: "They're clearly scripted, with the faux Grant and Courtney (Sarah Scott, in a diaphanous negligee) conversing at length in her bedroom. Since these conversations are undocumented..." except they weren't completely undocumented. The recordings were interspersed with the lovely Lifetime-like dramatic reenactments.
I don't think Loder "is afraid of looking like a fool". We're in a brutally honest society now, moreso than we were back then. He should have the mind and attitude to be able to say "Damn, I got f***ed by Courtney."...just like the other Kurt did.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I like watching true crime documentaries. I've taken forensics classes, as well as neuropharmacology courses. This "suicide note" and the *practice sheets* found amongst Love's possessions stink to high Hell, just as fishy and damning as the Ramsey Ransom Note. No one--NO ONE--practices someone else's handwriting without the intent of forgery. Why weren't any of the people around Kurt and Courtney MORE concerned with Kurt? Why on Earth let a junkie like that manipulate them, for God's sake? Ugh...anyway, I did like this documentary even if it was a little thin on "news". It was a good start (to the director's career).
I'm not sure how Kurt Loder can assert that the movie "had nothing new to add to [the case]". It seems the investigator has hours of recorded footage of Courtney and their lawyer that have not been released previously. And this film actually builds a compelling (although one sided, yes) case against her.
I believe the major networks- VH1, MTV, etc.- may feel "had" by Courtney. She fed news outlets lies on which they reported. The docu-movie sheds light on a CLEAR motive that she would have had and proves that she had a support system around her in place to have Kurt Cobain killed. The Seattle police clearly botched this investigation by not properly processing the crime scene. The work that was done by SPD on this case was atrocious. How a patrolling officer decided upon the cause of death immediately (as opposed to, say, a coroner) is appalling. The conduct of this department should be called into question. So many things were done wrong here that I wonder why no one has stepped in to try to rectify the obvious issues that this department has.
I believe Kurt Loder resents being "had" by a clumsy, drug addicted, rock star in Courtney Love. She played the media like a guitar. I believe he sees the evidence as compelling as well but would never admit it. He clearly reported on things that were inaccurate. Obviously, there has been new info brought in by this movie.
Why do you think the coroners report has not been released? How long was the body up there for?